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Isitjustme?
10-22-2020, 05:00 AM
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ChumpDumper
10-22-2020, 05:06 AM
My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine.
This afternoon I received a request from the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs and the Senate Committee on Finance requesting all documents relating to my business affairs with the Biden family as well as various foreign entities and individuals. I have extensive relevant records and communications and I intend to produce those items to both Committees in the immediate future.
I am the grandson of a 37 year Army Intelligence officer, the son of a 20+ year career Naval Officer and the brother of a 28 year career Naval Flight Officer. I myself served our country for 4 years and left the Navy as LT Bobulinski. I held a high level security clearance and was an instructor and then CTO for Naval Nuclear Power Training Command. I take great pride in the time my family and I served this country. I am also not a political person. What few campaign contributions I have made in my life were to Democrats.
If the media and Big Tech companies had done their jobs over the past several weeks I would be irrelevant in this story. Given my long standing service and devotion to this great country, I could no longer allow my family’s name to be associated or tied to Russian disinformation or implied lies and false narratives dominating the media right now.
After leaving the military I became an institutional investor investing extensively around the world and on every continent. I have traveled to over 50 countries. I believe, hands down, we live in the greatest country in the world.
What I am outlining is fact. I know it is fact because I lived it. I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to “the Big Guy” in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other “JB” referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe’s brother.
Hunter Biden called his dad ‘the Big Guy’ or ‘my Chairman,’ and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing. I’ve seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I’ve seen firsthand that that’s not true, because it wasn’t just Hunter’s business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line.
I realized the Chinese were not really focused on a healthy financial ROI. They were looking at this as a political or influence investment. Once I realized that Hunter wanted to use the company as his personal piggy bank by just taking money out of it as soon as it came from the Chinese, I took steps to prevent that from happening.
The Johnson Report connected some dots in a way that shocked me — it made me realize the Bidens had gone behind my back and gotten paid millions of dollars by the Chinese, even though they told me they hadn’t and wouldn’t do that to their partners.
I would ask the Biden family to address the American people and outline the facts so I can go back to being irrelevant — and so I am not put in a position to have to answer those questions for them.
I don’t have a political ax to grind; I just saw behind the Biden curtain and I grew concerned with what I saw. The Biden family aggressively leveraged the Biden family name to make millions of dollars from foreign entities even though some were from communist controlled China.
God bless America.You rubes do realize he wasn't Vice-President at this point, don't you?
Did the Chinese not know this? They probably could've dealt directly with Ivanka in exchange for copyrights like they actually did.
Isitjustme?
10-22-2020, 08:52 AM
https://i.chzbgr.com/original/1070761728/h75547A6D/nosferatu-politician-rudy-giuliani-vampires-1070761728
:lol
Bogie
10-22-2020, 09:01 AM
Another h:lolnest br:lolker just happening to talk to Breibart about it :lmao
Goddamn you people can't be this stupid.
you know they are that stupid
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 09:05 AM
https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1319092040588759040?s=19
:lmao transgender wetback Robbie Starbucks is an expert on RICO laws and probable cause needed to execute a searh warrant
So original George.
The irony.
Spurtacular
10-22-2020, 09:20 AM
https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1319092040588759040?s=19
Bombs.
Another h:lolnest br:lolker just happening to talk to Breibart about it :lmao
Goddamn you people can't be this stupid.
It's hilarious watching you try and dismiss the actual recipient of the email as a liar because of who published his statement. Didn't expect to see the semen shield deployed by you of all people.
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Over a year and a half on ignore and this pathetic faggot keeps begging for attention :lmao
Bogie
10-22-2020, 09:38 AM
It's hilarious watching you try and dismiss the actual recipient of the email as a liar because of who published his statement. Didn't expect to see the semen shield deployed by you of all people.
how does someone with a family, and a successful enough career that you can golf 4 days a week, have 10+ hours a day to spend on a fan site spamming rwnj tweets?
If you spend 10 hours a day here, you have to spend more than that scanning Twitter to find your spam.
So how do you have time to do things like work, raise a family, and golf?
Winehole23
10-22-2020, 09:44 AM
It's hilarious watching you try and dismiss the actual recipient of the email as a liar because of who published his statement.Your wagon has a broken axle. You should stop whipping the horses.
My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive.
:lol
how does someone with a family, and a successful enough career that you can golf 4 days a week, have 10+ hours a day to spend on a fan site spamming rwnj tweets?
If you spend 10 hours a day here, you have to spend more than that scanning Twitter to find your spam.
So how do you have time to do things like work, raise a family, and golf?
I don't spend 10 hours a day here...not even close :lol
I work from 6:00 AM to 2:30 PM and am at a computer all day. I'm rarely on this site after work hours and I'm not here on the weekends either.
https://twitter.com/MikeEmanuelFox/status/1319280974044131328
boutons_deux
10-22-2020, 09:52 AM
Bobulinski may be stupid and ignorant (result of military service?), but his bullshit article sure is.
Don’t mention Joe but I’m going to do it here to show you how not to do it? Smart
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 09:53 AM
https://twitter.com/MikeEmanuelFox/status/1319280974044131328
:wow
Spurtacular
10-22-2020, 09:55 AM
House Of Cards.
Winehole23
10-22-2020, 09:56 AM
which I'm told
House Of Cards.
A list of “key domestic contacts” for a joint venture involving Jim and Hunter Biden and now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. included former Vice President Joe Biden's current running mate Sen. Kamala Harris, among other prominent Democrats, Fox News has learned.
An email exclusively obtained by Fox News, with the subject line “Phase one domestic contacts/ projects” and dated May 15, 2017, Biden’s brother, Jim Biden, shared a list of “key domestic contacts for phase one target projects.”
The email is unrelated to the laptop or hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden, the former vice president's son.
The list, included Harris, D-Calif.; Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y.; Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn.; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio; former Virginia Gov. Terry McCauliffe, among others.
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/10/2017-05-15-12.56-Phase-one-domestic-contacts_projects-Memo-re-key-phase-one-domestic-contacts.pdf
hater
10-22-2020, 10:00 AM
Biden Crime family tbqh
Still. Too little too late unless Comey makes an appearance :lmao
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 10:02 AM
https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1319290827907084288?s=20
Don’t mention Joe but I’m going to do it here to show you how not to do it? Smart
Obviously some prep for a meeting you stupid fuck :lol
Blake
10-22-2020, 10:19 AM
My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine.
This afternoon I received a request from the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs and the Senate Committee on Finance requesting all documents relating to my business affairs with the Biden family as well as various foreign entities and individuals. I have extensive relevant records and communications and I intend to produce those items to both Committees in the immediate future.
I am the grandson of a 37 year Army Intelligence officer, the son of a 20+ year career Naval Officer and the brother of a 28 year career Naval Flight Officer. I myself served our country for 4 years and left the Navy as LT Bobulinski. I held a high level security clearance and was an instructor and then CTO for Naval Nuclear Power Training Command. I take great pride in the time my family and I served this country. I am also not a political person. What few campaign contributions I have made in my life were to Democrats.
If the media and Big Tech companies had done their jobs over the past several weeks I would be irrelevant in this story. Given my long standing service and devotion to this great country, I could no longer allow my family’s name to be associated or tied to Russian disinformation or implied lies and false narratives dominating the media right now.
After leaving the military I became an institutional investor investing extensively around the world and on every continent. I have traveled to over 50 countries. I believe, hands down, we live in the greatest country in the world.
What I am outlining is fact. I know it is fact because I lived it. I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to “the Big Guy” in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other “JB” referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe’s brother.
Hunter Biden called his dad ‘the Big Guy’ or ‘my Chairman,’ and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing. I’ve seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I’ve seen firsthand that that’s not true, because it wasn’t just Hunter’s business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line.
I realized the Chinese were not really focused on a healthy financial ROI. They were looking at this as a political or influence investment. Once I realized that Hunter wanted to use the company as his personal piggy bank by just taking money out of it as soon as it came from the Chinese, I took steps to prevent that from happening.
The Johnson Report connected some dots in a way that shocked me — it made me realize the Bidens had gone behind my back and gotten paid millions of dollars by the Chinese, even though they told me they hadn’t and wouldn’t do that to their partners.
I would ask the Biden family to address the American people and outline the facts so I can go back to being irrelevant — and so I am not put in a position to have to answer those questions for them.
I don’t have a political ax to grind; I just saw behind the Biden curtain and I grew concerned with what I saw. The Biden family aggressively leveraged the Biden family name to make millions of dollars from foreign entities even though some were from communist controlled China.
God bless America.
I was thinking this was bullshit but then he said he doesn't have a political ax to grind and for God to bless America so now I'm thinking it's legit
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 10:24 AM
Guiliani lookin for the emails...
https://uploads.dailydot.com/2020/10/Screen-Shot-2020-10-21-at-12.37.44-PM.png
NOT IN THERE, RUDY!!!!! :wow
Obviously some prep for a meeting you stupid fuck :lol
Right right. That’s it.
I was thinking this was bullshit but then he said he doesn't have a political ax to grind and for God to bless America so now I'm thinking it's legit
Would having a political axe to grind and believing in God mean that he's lying about being the recipient of the email and the email being genuine?
Right right. That’s it.
What else would it be you stupid fuck :lol
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 10:31 AM
Because Hunter Bidens "laptops" is a distraction from Trumps bungling the pandemic response.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/opinion/coronavirus-herd-immunity.html
Hence, it is no surprise that the White House and several governors are now paying close attention to the “Great Barrington Declaration,” a proposal written by a group of well-credentialed scientists who want to shift Covid-19 policy toward achieving herd immunity — the point at which enough people have become immune to the virus that its spread becomes unlikely.
They would do this by allowing “those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally.” This, they say, will allow people “to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection.”
These academics are clearly a distinct minority. Most of their public health colleagues have condemned their proposal as unworkable and unethical — even as amounting to “mass murder,” as William Haseltine, a former Harvard Medical School professor who now heads a global health foundation, put it to CNN last week.
But who is right?
The signers of the declaration do have a point. Restrictions designed to limit deaths cause real harm, including, but by no means limited to, stress on the economy, increases in domestic violence and drug abuse, declines in tests that screen for cancer and on and on. Those living alone suffer real pain from isolation, and the young have every reason to feel bitter over the loss of substantive education and what should have been memories of a high school prom or the bonding friendships that form in a college dorm at 2 a.m. or on an athletic team or in some other endeavor.
So the idea of returning to something akin to normal — releasing everyone from a kind of jail — is attractive, even seductive. It becomes less seductive when one examines three enormously important omissions in the declaration.
First, it makes no mention of harm to infected people in low-risk groups, yet many people recover very slowly. More serious, a significant number, including those with no symptoms, suffer damage to their heart and lungs. One recent study of 100 recovered adults found that 78 of them showed signs of heart damage. We have no idea whether this damage will cut years from their lives or affect their quality of life.
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Second, it says little about how to protect the vulnerable. One can keep a child from visiting a grandparent in another city easily enough, but what happens when the child and grandparent live in the same household? And how do you protect a 25-year-old diabetic, or cancer survivor, or obese person, or anyone else with a comorbidity who needs to go to work every day? Upon closer examination, the “focused protection” that the declaration urges devolves into a kind of three-card monte; one can’t pin it down.
Third, the declaration omits mention of how many people the policy would kill. It’s a lot.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 10:33 AM
Because Hunter Bidens "laptops" is a distraction from Trumps own rank nepotism.
Whistleblower says Ivanka, Jared got security clearance over experts' advice
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-clearances-idUSKCN1RD2HU
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 10:34 AM
Because Hunter Bidens "laptops" is a distraction from Trumps own shady dealings.
Reports of Trump's secret Chinese bank account spark controversy
There's a lot to unpack in the new reporting, but it's probably worth dwelling on Trump's previously undisclosed bank account in China.
https://www.nbcnews.com/rachel-maddow-show/reports-trump-s-secret-chinese-bank-account-spark-controversy-n1244186
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 10:35 AM
Because Hunter Bidens "laptops" is a distraction from Trumps own shady dealings.
Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/16/donald-trump-has-at-least-1-billion-in-debt-more-than-twice-the-amount-he-suggested/#68f3536b4330
Who does Trump owe the money to?
spurraider21
10-22-2020, 10:37 AM
Speaking of distractions...
Speaking of distractions...
:rollin
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 10:38 AM
Because Hunter Bidens "laptops" is a distraction from Trumps own violations of the constitution.
1. U.S. Properties
At the top of this list is the Trump International Hotel, a few blocks from the White House. Once the Old Post Office building, Trump’s organization renovated it and turned it into a luxury hotel to compete with others in downtown Washington. The most expensive suite could sell for as much as $20,000 a night. A five-night stay in that suite by those seeking an audience with the president-elect in the Oval Office would cost $100,000.
The Washington Post recently reported considerable interest in booking Trump’s Washington hotel as a deliberate way for foreign visitors to show their support for the incoming Trump White House. Two legal experts—Richard Painter, who was former President George W. Bush’s chief ethics counsel, and noted constitutional legal expert Lawrence Tribe—both say that this appears to be an “emolument” (a gift) that a president isn’t allowed to accept. The Constitution doesn’t allow presidents to receive expensive gifts from foreign agents.
https://time.com/4578431/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interest-list/
What else would it be you stupid fuck :lol
Whatever you think it is, it’s the opposite. As are 99.9% of what you post.
You're slow on the up take.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 10:51 AM
Because Hunter Bidens "laptops" is a distraction from Trumps own felony obstruction of justice, multiple counts.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278376&page=105&p=9835410&viewfull=1#post9835410
Whatever you think it is, it’s the opposite. As are 99.9% of what you post.
You're slow on the up take.
What do you think the texts are Reck?
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 10:53 AM
Speaking of distractions...
I don't feel too compelled to stick to what amounts to a bad faith effort on TSA's part.
The whole point of the entire thread is to guide the general conversation away form the clogged toilet of this administrations corruption and bungling.
Bogie
10-22-2020, 10:54 AM
I don't spend 10 hours a day here...not even close :lol
I work from 6:00 AM to 2:30 PM and am at a computer all day. I'm rarely on this site after work hours and I'm not here on the weekends either.
you live in California, right?
how does someone with a family, and a successful enough career that you can golf 4 days a week, have 10+ hours a day to spend on a fan site spamming rwnj tweets?
If you spend 10 hours a day here, you have to spend more than that scanning Twitter to find your spam.
So how do you have time to do things like work, raise a family, and golf?
You average 10 more posts a day than I do and you're trying to question my time management? :lmao
Bogie
10-22-2020, 11:06 AM
You average 10 more posts a day than I do and you're trying to question my time management? :lmao
no, it’s something I’m always fascinated by. Why would you pretend to not spend hours and hours on your q and other rwnj sites, when it’s obvious that is pretty much all you do
does your wife believe in the q lifestyle too?
Trill Clinton
10-22-2020, 11:12 AM
How much money do y'all think the government is wasting on this? Its hilarious how the government, both parties, move when its stuff they care about.
no, it’s something I’m always fascinated by. Why would you pretend to not spend hours and hours on your q and other rwnj sites, when it’s obvious that is pretty much all you do
does your wife believe in the q lifestyle too?
Daydreaming about how another man spends his time online when you post here more than I do :lmao
I don't feel too compelled to stick to what amounts to a bad faith effort on TSA's part.
The whole point of the entire thread is to guide the general conversation away form the clogged toilet of this administrations corruption and bungling.
The point of this thread is to discuss Hunter Biden's laptop. It makes you feel uncomfortable so you're melting down and deflecting. It's obvious and pathetic.
Spurs Homer
10-22-2020, 11:28 AM
:lmao:lmao:lmao
TSA
ChumpDumper
10-22-2020, 11:30 AM
:lol TSA stopped talking about the laptop a long time ago.
RD2191
10-22-2020, 11:33 AM
I'm starving, must be this nothingburger.
Spurtacular
10-22-2020, 11:34 AM
I'm starving, must be this nothingburger.
You still here, little bitch?
RD2191
10-22-2020, 11:35 AM
You still here, little bitch?
Lmaooo. Triggered little faggot. You coming back for more? You ever get tired of getting jizzed on?
RD2191
10-22-2020, 11:36 AM
The point of this thread is to discuss Hunter Biden's laptop. It makes you feel uncomfortable so you're melting down and deflecting. It's obvious and pathetic.
Post proof it's actually Hunter Biden's laptop.
Bogie
10-22-2020, 11:48 AM
The point of this thread is to discuss Hunter Biden's laptop. It makes you feel uncomfortable so you're melting down and deflecting. It's obvious and pathetic.
melting down is what you’re doing trying to make hunter biden an issue while conveniently ignoring all of the actions of this administration
But keep attacking when you are lying your ass off here to try to deflect from that too.
Post proof it's actually Hunter Biden's laptop.
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/Subpoena-GrandJury-redacted.jpg
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/Subpoena-GrandJury-computerequipment.jpg
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/ComputerRepair-Invoice-Hunter-Biden-2.jpg
https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf
:wow:wow:wow
A whistleblower CEO and Biden insider, Tony Bobulinski, released a public statement on Wednesday evening backing up the reporting of the New York Post from last week and claiming that he personally witnessed Democrat presidential nominee former Vice President Joe Biden discussing business deals with his son, Hunter Biden.
Sources familiar with the matter told Breitbart News that Bobulinski is the person whose allegations and inside information are the centerpiece of a forthcoming investigation by the Wall Street Journal. That Wall Street Journal story has not published yet, several days after the newspaper staff indicated to some the piece would come out—it is unclear why the Journal has not yet published—but President Donald Trump hinted on a conference call earlier this week that such a story was coming from the newspaper.
Bobulinski’s statement also seemingly authenticates at least one of the bombshell emails obtained by the New York Post, purportedly from Hunter Biden’s laptop retrieved from a computer repair store in Delaware. The statement also contradicts claims from some Democrats that a Russian disinformation campaign is at the center of the burgeoning scandal currently engulfing the Biden campaign in the final days of the election.
Bobulinski said in a press statement he released Wednesday night:
My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine.
According to Bobulinski, the use of the term “the Big Guy” in one such email was a direct reference to Joe Biden himself.
In that email, originally published by the New York Post and subsequently by several other outlets, there was a discussion of “remuneration packages” for six people involved in a business deal with the now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. Fox News described the email in a report citing an anonymous source confirming that the “Big Guy” was Joe Biden:
The email includes a note that “Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate.” A proposed equity split references “20” for “H” and “10 held by H for the big guy?” with no further details.
Bobulinski’s statement would be the first on-record confirmation of this from a source in the Biden universe. Bobulinski said:
What I am outlining is fact. I know it is fact because I lived it. I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to ‘the Big Guy’ in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other ‘JB’ referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe’s brother.
Screenshots published by the New York Post indicate that Bobulinski was one of the recipients of the email in question. The email was authored by James Gilliar of the consulting firm J2cR. Now that Bobulinski is publicly confirming the authenticity of this email, which, again, he was the recipient of, that furthers the story significantly, and Joe Biden’s presidential campaign does not deny their authenticity.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/21/bombshell-statement-biden-insider-claims-he-was-recipient-of-the-email-says-he-witnessed-joe-hunter-discussing-deals/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
WSJ story up next :bobo
That's great, still doesn't answer my question. Where's the original email?
Why go through the process of giving a fake affidavit when you could just give the original email?
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 11:59 AM
The point of this thread is to discuss Hunter Biden's laptop. It makes you feel uncomfortable so you're melting down and deflecting. It's obvious and pathetic.
The point of discussing Hunter Biden's "laptop" is to distract from the flaming shitfire of the Trump administration. It's obvious how bad that is, so you're melting down and deflecting. It's obvious and pathetic.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:03 PM
The Trump shitshow cesspool is so deep, I can't even show the floating turds at the top, let alone the festering cesspool below it without being accused of "melting down", which is ironic, given the OP.
Four years of the Trump shitshow-cesspool-dumpsterfire has so many turdy depths left to plumb.
That's great, still doesn't answer my question. Where's the original email?
Don't care. Recipient of the email has come forward and said it's genuine. If you think he is lying as well how many people are now in on your conspiracy theory?
Trill Clinton
10-22-2020, 12:04 PM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/Subpoena-GrandJury-redacted.jpg
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/Subpoena-GrandJury-computerequipment.jpg
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/ComputerRepair-Invoice-Hunter-Biden-2.jpg
How did Rudy get possession of the laptop? If there is child porn on there they need to make some arrests right now.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:05 PM
Don't care. Recipient of the email has come forward and said it's genuine. If you think he is lying as well how many people are now in on your conspiracy theory?
Why is this more important than the Trump shitshow-cesspool-dumpster fire? I am honestly puzzled.
The point of discussing Hunter Biden's "laptop" is to distract from the flaming shitfire of the Trump administration. It's obvious how bad that is, so you're melting down and deflecting. It's obvious and pathetic.
The only person melting down and deflecting in this thread is you, and that's not up for debate. Go bump one of your other 100 trump corruption threads you started if you want to discuss Trump, or keep melting down and deflecting in this thread.
Why is this more important than the Trump shitshow-cesspool-dumpster fire? I am honestly puzzled.
If it's so unimportant why are you spamming the thread with off topic deflections?
ChumpDumper
10-22-2020, 12:09 PM
Dude, Biden traded on his being out of office and the Democrats' being completely out of power to the Chinese for money.
That's fucking amazing tbh.
Better deal than anything Trump has ever done.:tu
How did Rudy get possession of the laptop? If there is child porn on there they need to make some arrests right now.
Doesn't sound like child porn is on the laptop.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1319285251575742465
This lines up with the text message from Hunter saying his brother's widow was complaining about Hunter facetiming her daughter while naked and smoking crack.
clambake
10-22-2020, 12:19 PM
Set the prop down next to the healthcare prop. Lol reduced to using props.
Joseph Kony
10-22-2020, 12:35 PM
trump employs half of his retarded family in powerful positions they have 0 qualifications for. stop acting like you actually give a shit about biden "potentially discussing business deals" with his son :lol
Joseph Kony
10-22-2020, 12:37 PM
and again, his son is a crackhead, this isnt news. why does anyone care? :lol this is not going to affect Biden's chances AT ALL. this is just a pathetic attempt for the repugs to sling shit at something no one cares about :lol
and considering only the meth'd out version of Fox, OAN, is reporting this, you can bet its bullshit tbh
trump employs half of his retarded family in powerful positions they have 0 qualifications for. stop acting like you actually give a shit about biden "potentially discussing business deals" with his son :lol
"potentially discussing business deals" :lmao
https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf
Joseph Kony
10-22-2020, 12:38 PM
"potentially discussing business deals" :lmao
https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf
so does trump employing his family in powerful positions and them profiting in their personal businesses because of it bother you? yes or no. if not then shut the fuck up
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1319313514612359168
Don't care.
You should, and the fact that you don't speaks volumes. I'm not saying he's lying - I can't make that determination until they produce the native email. Why are they doing everything but that?
so does trump employing his family in powerful positions and them profiting in their personal businesses because of it bother you? yes or no. if not then shut the fuck up
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Blake
10-22-2020, 12:43 PM
Would having a political axe to grind and believing in God mean that he's lying about being the recipient of the email and the email being genuine?
His opinions and beliefs don't mean shit either way. If you have the hard evidence give it up right now the world or stfu and go away.
You should, and the fact that you don't speaks volumes. I'm not saying he's lying - I can't make that determination until they produce the native email. Why are they doing everything but that?
I'm sorry this is happening to you.
His opinions and beliefs don't mean shit either way. If you have the hard evidence give it up right now the world or stfu and go away.
I'm sorry this is happening to you.
Leetonidas
10-22-2020, 12:48 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
:lol a detailed report. You're a clown dude
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:50 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Lying fuck. Gave you more than enough links here. Pretending you care and would talk about it here, is the height of bad faith posting.
Wow.
Just.
wow.
Eat a bag of dicks.
Blake
10-22-2020, 12:51 PM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/Subpoena-GrandJury-redacted.jpg
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/Subpoena-GrandJury-computerequipment.jpg
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/ComputerRepair-Invoice-Hunter-Biden-2.jpg
"In lieu of personal appearance see ATTACHMENT A"
Attachment A: two serial numbers
Lolsmh rubes
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:52 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex.../#68f3536b4330
Who does Trump owe the money to?
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:52 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Reports of Trump's secret Chinese bank account spark controversy
There's a lot to unpack in the new reporting, but it's probably worth dwelling on Trump's previously undisclosed bank account in China.
https://www.nbcnews.com/rachel-maddo...versy-n1244186
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:53 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Whistleblower says Ivanka, Jared got security clearance over experts' advice
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1RD2HU
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:54 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Reports of Trump's secret Chinese bank account spark controversy
There's a lot to unpack in the new reporting, but it's probably worth dwelling on Trump's previously undisclosed bank account in China.
https://www.nbcnews.com/rachel-maddo...versy-n1244186
ChumpDumper
10-22-2020, 12:54 PM
:lmao TSAnon resorting to Qhrisderping
Next he's gonna start calling everyone Blake.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:55 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
https://time.com/4578431/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interest-list/
2. Foreign Interests
While American voters largely know Trump from his American real-estate properties and his stint as a reality network television star, his organization has any number of business deals that are connected either directly with foreign governments or individuals with deep ties to those governments. Any one of those business deals is likely to come under intense scrutiny when administration proposals affect governments involved in those business deals.
More than 100 Trump companies have done business in 18 countries. One extraordinary conflict of interest is an effort by eight mysterious Trump companies established on the eve of Trump’s campaign to develop luxury real estate projects in Saudi Arabia—a country that Trump explicitly said he hopes to protect as president.
The Trump organization also has business deals or properties in Scotland, Azerbaijan and Uruguay. He has marketing deals in Turkey, the Philippines, South Korea and the United Arab Emirates. The Bank of China is a lender to at least one of Trump’s properties. Representatives of his organization carry the Trump brand to dozens of other countries on a regular basis—raising the distinct possibility that Trump’s business brand will essentially be promoted right alongside the Trump White House and American national interests in many of these places. The Trump organization, for instance, describes the role of his son, Donald Jr., as business development and acquisitions that range “from Eastern Europe to Southeast Asia, the Middle East to South America, (and) mainland China.”
It’s also clear that Trump may not be shy about mixing and matching official White House duties with those involving foreign business interests. Just last week, Trump met with three Indian business partners at Trump Tower to discuss a luxury apartment complex they’re developing together near Mumbai, the New York Times reported. For this meeting, at least, there was no apparent effort to separate his business dealings from his work as the President-elect, though a spokeswoman for the Trump organization described it as nothing more than a courtesy visit rather than a business meeting. Those Indian executives, however, have told Indian newspapers that they had been discussing the possibility of expanding their business deals with the Trump organization now that he was the President-elect, the Times reported.
Regardless of whether any sorts of business partnership expansions were discussed, legal experts say that such meetings alone raise conflict of interest questions for Trump because there is at least the appearance that he could be using the White House to advance his own business interests. Ivanka Trump joined a Trump White House transition team meeting with Japan’s leader, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, last week, which prompted even more questions about how closely aligned Trump’s business interests will be with affairs of state.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:55 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
3. Family Matters
Relatives and family members who are currently making important decisions about what a Trump administration will look like will come under intense media scrutiny—especially for those who choose to work in the White House or take on official advisory council posts. Trump’s closest advisors have said in recent weeks that they would like to see his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, become a senior White House official, reflecting his clear and obvious role in major decisions the President-elect has made since the election.
Kushner, for instance, has been widely credited with the decision to replace Gov. Chris Christie as the head of the Trump transition efforts. There is, however, a large, potential conflict of interest looming. After former President John F. Kennedy made his brother, Robert, the attorney general, Congress passed an anti-nepotism law. That 1967 law is still on the books, and there isn’t an easy way around it—even if Kushner chooses not to take a salary as a senior White House official. It bans public officials, especially presidents, from hiring their relatives for jobs in federal agencies and Cabinet posts.
Trump advisors, however, believe the anti-nepotism law doesn’t apply to the White House—a conflict that could be tested early in Trump’s presidency if he allows his son-in-law to operate out of the West Wing. “This falls right in the bull’s eye of the statute. I think it’s illegal,” Norm Eisen, who was President Obama’s chief ethics counsel, told Politico. Other legal experts, though, feel Kushner can serve as an unpaid advisor in the White House.
Republicans, likewise, don’t see any conflicts at all in Trump’s family members managing the national government. “For goodness sake, JFK put his brother over at the Justice Department. It’s not like these things are new and unprecedented,” Rep. Tom Cole said. And if Trump wants to give Kushner or his daughter, Ivanka Trump, access to intelligence briefings, he could appoint them to White House councils like the intelligence advisory board without any oversight from Congress or intelligence agencies providing classified briefings.
https://time.com/4578431/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interest-list/
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:56 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
5. Lending, Financial Institutions and Economic Policy
Finally, the Trump organization has many financial ties to lenders outside the U.S.—including Russia and China. Decisions he makes on economic policies that directly affect international financial lending institutions, interest rates and monetary policy will have a direct bearing on the hundreds of millions of dollars his organization owes to financial interests abroad. Any one of those international lending arrangements is likely to come under media scrutiny when he weighs in on decisions that will directly affect them.
And, in the U.S., economic and monetary policy discussions at a Trump White House will have a direct impact on federal institutions like Treasury, the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Service—all of which impact, audit or affect both his domestic and international business interests. The question of whether Trump is taking his own business interests into White House consideration on financial and economic policy considerations is one that critics and others are almost certain to raise repeatedly during his presidency.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:57 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
40 Wall Street
40 Wall street
IMAGE COPYRIGHTGETTY IMAGES
The Trump Organization owns the right to lease the space in this office building in Manhattan - and makes money from the rent paid to the building.
According to Bloomberg News, there are five ongoing federal investigations into current or former tenants of 40 Wall Street, mostly for securities fraud.
Those investigations are headed up by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
Mr Trump's appointee to head the SEC, Jay Clayton, has been criticised for his ties to Wall Street firms by Democrats during his confirmation hearings.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:57 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Dakota Access Pipeline
Native Americans march to the site of a sacred burial ground that was disturbed by bulldozers building the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL), near the encampment where hundreds of people have gathered to join the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe's protest of the oil pipeline slated to cross the nearby Missouri River, September 4, 2016 near Cannon Ball, North Dakota
Sioux tribes and allies had protesting for months to prevent the Dakota Access pipeline from being built under water supplies near the Standing Rock reservation.
Trump had a partial investment - somewhere between $500,000 and $1m - in the parent company of the firm building Dakota Access pipeline, Energy Transfers Partners.
Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks says Mr Trump has sold his stock in Energy Transfer Partners. But another one of Trump's stock holdings, Phillips 66, owns a 25% share in the project.
It's unclear if the president has also sold his stock in Phillips 66, as his last financial disclosure was in May 2016.
Update:
On 24 January, Mr Trump signed an executive order paving the way for final construction of the pipeline. ETP began work in early February and oil is expected to flow by early April. The pipeline remains the subject of a lawsuit by the Cheyenne River Sioux.
Lying fuck. Gave you more than enough links here. Pretending you care and would talk about it here, is the height of bad faith posting.
Wow.
Just.
wow.
Eat a bag of dicks.
That wasn't addressed to you now was it. Again, this thread isn't the thread to discuss it. This thread is about Hunter Biden. Go bump one of the 100+ threads you started or keep on looking pathetic in here while melting down and deflecting. Up to you.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:58 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Deutsche Bank
One of Trump's major lenders on his real estate projects is Deutsche Bank.
The bank is currently in negotiations with the US justice department to settle a case involving misleading buyers when it sold mortgage bonds backed by risky loans.
Update: Deutsche Bank settled the mortgage bonds case for $7.2bn in late December 2016.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:58 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
The FCC
The president has another job title beyond "commander-in-chief": executive producer. He will continue to have a "big stake" in The Celebrity Apprentice, which airs on NBC, linking Mr Trump's business interests with the network.
NBC and its parent company, Comcast, is regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). Mr Trump's pick for the chairman, Ajit Pai, will be need to be reconfirmed by the Senate this year, in order to continue on at the commission.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:58 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
National Labor Relations Board
On 3 November, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) ruled that Trump International Hotel Las Vegas - which Trump co-owns - broke the law by refusing to negotiate with a hotel workers' union.
The hotel appealed the case to a higher court. But three other labour disputes involving the Las Vegas hotel are currently before the board, as well as several others involving the Trump Organization.
NLRB is facing an unprecedented situation on how to rule on disputes that will affect the president's business. Mr Trump has named current board member Philip Miscimarra as acting chair and will be able to appoint two new members to vacant spots.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:59 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Secret Service
Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump departs in his plane after rallying with supporters in a cargo hangar at Minneapolis Saint Paul International Airport in Minneapolis, Minnesota, U.S. November 6, 2016
IMAGE COPYRIGHTREUTERS
During the campaign, Trump's airplane company, TAG Air, billed the Secret Service for flying on Trump's Boeing 757 while protecting the candidate. It is standard for Secret Service to pay their own way on private aircraft, and during the campaign, this was tracked by the Federal Election Commission through campaign finance reports.
While Mr Trump flies on Air Force One and other US aircraft as president, if Trump or Pence family members are assigned protective detail and decide to fly on Trump planes, the Secret Service would need to reimburse TAG Air - and ultimately Mr Trump - for the flights.
In addition, Secret Service will reportedly pay the Trump Organization for the space they use in Trump Tower while protecting Melania and Barron Trump as they stay in New York for part of 2017. The Washington Post has reported the Secret Service has requested $27m extra for the overall protective detail in New York.
Secret Service has also paid to protect Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr, as members of the president's family - even as they travel to take care of business for the Trump Organization.
"In lieu of personal appearance see ATTACHMENT A"
Attachment A: two serial numbers
Lolsmh rubes
How many people are in on your conspiracy theory now? FBI in on it too?
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 12:59 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Stocks
Jason Miller, the transition team's spokesman, has said the president sold all his stocks in June 2016, a month after the required financial disclosure, but the campaign did not furnish proof nor provide an updated list of Mr Trump's investments.
Since his election, Mr Trump has singled out specific companies for criticism on Twitter, causing price swings on the stock market. If Mr Trump still owns these stocks, he could make money off of selling and buying before and after such tweets.
:lmao RandomGuy triggered as fuck :lmao
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 01:00 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Foreign holdings
According to Trump's financial disclosure, as of mid-2016, he had investments in or owned companies in at least 20 countries. Unlike his domestic business, Mr Trump could run afoul of a clause in the US constitution by continuing to profit from these deals.
The emoluments clause specifically prevents anyone who holds a US "office of trust or profit" from accepting gifts, payments or any benefit from a foreign nation.
Even routine business benefits like tax breaks could violate the emoluments clause.
One former White House ethics lawyer has argued Mr Trump would be violation of the constitution "on day one".
In addition to emoluments, Mr Trump's foreign policy decisions could be called into question in any country in which the Trump Organization does business, especially when his policies would benefit the firm's holdings overseas.Here are some of Mr Trump's larger business deals that intersect with US foreign policy.
BBC Monitoring contributed to this report
RD2191
10-22-2020, 01:00 PM
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/Subpoena-GrandJury-redacted.jpg
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/Subpoena-GrandJury-computerequipment.jpg
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/ComputerRepair-Invoice-Hunter-Biden-2.jpg
That literally proves jack shit. :lol nice try though :tu
I'm sorry this is happening to you.
Is that a response?
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 01:01 PM
:lmao RandomGuy triggered as fuck :lmao
Just waiting on you to discuss the detailed report.
Unless you were lying about wanting to discuss Trumps family business doings.
Were you lying?
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 01:05 PM
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
[provides detailed report on Trump family corruption]
:lmao RandomGuy triggered as fuck :lmao
Translation:
:cry Why did you give me a detailed report? :cry
:rollin
Chris
10-22-2020, 01:08 PM
RandomGay :lol
Chris
10-22-2020, 01:13 PM
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1319307247294554117?s=19
She sounds like the adults in the Charlie Brown cartoons :lmao
Chris
10-22-2020, 01:14 PM
https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1319289824541437959?s=19
RD2191
10-22-2020, 01:16 PM
https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1319289824541437959?s=19
Nothingburger :rollin
Chris
10-22-2020, 01:18 PM
Nothingburger :rollin
GOOD MORNING!
SUNDAY MORNING!!!
https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1319289824541437959?s=19
Oh you dont say. Next week all 40 something dem senators will also be somehow implicated.
TSA, Chris is doing you no favors in here. :lol
Chris
10-22-2020, 01:24 PM
Oh you dont say. Next week all 40 something dem senators will also be somehow implicated.
TSA, Chris is doing you no favors in here. :lol
bro real talk just retire from the political forum
you are so bad at this :lmao
bro real talk just retire from the political forum
you are so bad at this :lmao
Like twitter retired you for acting like a bot? I'm good, thanks.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 01:27 PM
That wasn't addressed to you now was it. Again, this thread isn't the thread to discuss it. This thread is about Hunter Biden. Go bump one of the 100+ threads you started or keep on looking pathetic in here while melting down and deflecting. Up to you.
Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex.../#68f3536b4330
Who does Trump owe the money to?
Reports of Trump's secret Chinese bank account spark controversy
There's a lot to unpack in the new reporting, but it's probably worth dwelling on Trump's previously undisclosed bank account in China.
https://www.nbcnews.com/rachel-maddo...versy-n1244186
Whistleblower says Ivanka, Jared got security clearance over experts' advice
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1RD2HU
https://time.com/4578431/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interest-list/
2. Foreign Interests
More than 100 Trump companies have done business in 18 countries. One extraordinary conflict of interest is an effort by eight mysterious Trump companies established on the eve of Trump’s campaign to develop luxury real estate projects in Saudi Arabia—a country that Trump explicitly said he hopes to protect as president.
It’s also clear that Trump may not be shy about mixing and matching official White House duties with those involving foreign business interests. Just last week, Trump met with three Indian business partners at Trump Tower to discuss a luxury apartment complex they’re developing together near Mumbai, the New York Times reported. For this meeting, at least, there was no apparent effort to separate his business dealings from his work as the President-elect, though a spokeswoman for the Trump organization described it as nothing more than a courtesy visit rather than a business meeting. Those Indian executives, however, have told Indian newspapers that they had been discussing the possibility of expanding their business deals with the Trump organization now that he was the President-elect, the Times reported.
Regardless of whether any sorts of business partnership expansions were discussed, legal experts say that such meetings alone raise conflict of interest questions for Trump because there is at least the appearance that he could be using the White House to advance his own business interests. Ivanka Trump joined a Trump White House transition team meeting with Japan’s leader, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, last week, which prompted even more questions about how closely aligned Trump’s business interests will be with affairs of state.
3. Family Matters
Relatives and family members who are currently making important decisions about what a Trump administration will look like will come under intense media scrutiny—especially for those who choose to work in the White House or take on official advisory council posts. Trump’s closest advisors have said in recent weeks that they would like to see his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, become a senior White House official, reflecting his clear and obvious role in major decisions the President-elect has made since the election.
Kushner, for instance, has been widely credited with the decision to replace Gov. Chris Christie as the head of the Trump transition efforts. There is, however, a large, potential conflict of interest looming. After former President John F. Kennedy made his brother, Robert, the attorney general, Congress passed an anti-nepotism law. That 1967 law is still on the books, and there isn’t an easy way around it—even if Kushner chooses not to take a salary as a senior White House official. It bans public officials, especially presidents, from hiring their relatives for jobs in federal agencies and Cabinet posts.
Trump advisors, however, believe the anti-nepotism law doesn’t apply to the White House—a conflict that could be tested early in Trump’s presidency if he allows his son-in-law to operate out of the West Wing. “This falls right in the bull’s eye of the statute. I think it’s illegal,” Norm Eisen, who was President Obama’s chief ethics counsel, told Politico. Other legal experts, though, feel Kushner can serve as an unpaid advisor in the White House.
Republicans, likewise, don’t see any conflicts at all in Trump’s family members managing the national government. “For goodness sake, JFK put his brother over at the Justice Department. It’s not like these things are new and unprecedented,” Rep. Tom Cole said. And if Trump wants to give Kushner or his daughter, Ivanka Trump, access to intelligence briefings, he could appoint them to White House councils like the intelligence advisory board without any oversight from Congress or intelligence agencies providing classified briefings.
https://time.com/4578431/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interest-list/
5. Lending, Financial Institutions and Economic Policy
And, in the U.S., economic and monetary policy discussions at a Trump White House will have a direct impact on federal institutions like Treasury, the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Service—all of which impact, audit or affect both his domestic and international business interests. The question of whether Trump is taking his own business interests into White House consideration on financial and economic policy considerations is one that critics and others are almost certain to raise repeatedly during his presidency.
40 Wall Street
40 Wall street
The Trump Organization owns the right to lease the space in this office building in Manhattan - and makes money from the rent paid to the building.
According to Bloomberg News, there are five ongoing federal investigations into current or former tenants of 40 Wall Street, mostly for securities fraud.
Those investigations are headed up by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
Mr Trump's appointee to head the SEC, Jay Clayton, has been criticised for his ties to Wall Street firms by Democrats during his confirmation hearings.
Dakota Access Pipeline
Native Americans march to the site of a sacred burial ground that was disturbed by bulldozers building the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL), near the encampment where hundreds of people have gathered to join the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe's protest of the oil pipeline slated to cross the nearby Missouri River, September 4, 2016 near Cannon Ball, North Dakota
It's unclear if the president has also sold his stock in Phillips 66, as his last financial disclosure was in May 2016.
Update:
On 24 January, Mr Trump signed an executive order paving the way for final construction of the pipeline. ETP began work in early February and oil is expected to flow by early April. The pipeline remains the subject of a lawsuit by the Cheyenne River Sioux.
Deutsche Bank
One of Trump's major lenders on his real estate projects is Deutsche Bank.
The bank is currently in negotiations with the US justice department to settle a case involving misleading buyers when it sold mortgage bonds backed by risky loans.
Update: Deutsche Bank settled the mortgage bonds case for $7.2bn in late December 2016.
The FCC
The president has another job title beyond "commander-in-chief": executive producer. He will continue to have a "big stake" in The Celebrity Apprentice, which airs on NBC, linking Mr Trump's business interests with the network.
NBC and its parent company, Comcast, is regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). Mr Trump's pick for the chairman, Ajit Pai, will be need to be reconfirmed by the Senate this year, in order to continue on at the commission.
National Labor Relations Board
On 3 November, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) ruled that Trump International Hotel Las Vegas - which Trump co-owns - broke the law by refusing to negotiate with a hotel workers' union.
The hotel appealed the case to a higher court. But three other labour disputes involving the Las Vegas hotel are currently before the board, as well as several others involving the Trump Organization.
NLRB is facing an unprecedented situation on how to rule on disputes that will affect the president's business. Mr Trump has named current board member Philip Miscimarra as acting chair and will be able to appoint two new members to vacant spots.
Secret Service
Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump departs in his plane after rallying with supporters in a cargo hangar at Minneapolis Saint Paul International Airport in Minneapolis, Minnesota, U.S. November 6, 2016
During the campaign, Trump's airplane company, TAG Air, billed the Secret Service for flying on Trump's Boeing 757 while protecting the candidate. It is standard for Secret Service to pay their own way on private aircraft, and during the campaign, this was tracked by the Federal Election Commission through campaign finance reports.
Secret Service has also paid to protect Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr, as members of the president's family - even as they travel to take care of business for the Trump Organization.
Stocks
Jason Miller, the transition team's spokesman, has said the president sold all his stocks in June 2016, a month after the required financial disclosure, but the campaign did not furnish proof nor provide an updated list of Mr Trump's investments.
Since his election, Mr Trump has singled out specific companies for criticism on Twitter, causing price swings on the stock market. If Mr Trump still owns these stocks, he could make money off of selling and buying before and after such tweets.
Foreign holdings
According to Trump's financial disclosure, as of mid-2016, he had investments in or owned companies in at least 20 countries. Unlike his domestic business, Mr Trump could run afoul of a clause in the US constitution by continuing to profit from these deals.
The emoluments clause specifically prevents anyone who holds a US "office of trust or profit" from accepting gifts, payments or any benefit from a foreign nation.
Even routine business benefits like tax breaks could violate the emoluments clause.
One former White House ethics lawyer has argued Mr Trump would be violation of the constitution "on day one".
In addition to emoluments, Mr Trump's foreign policy decisions could be called into question in any country in which the Trump Organization does business, especially when his policies would benefit the firm's holdings overseas.Here are some of Mr Trump's larger business deals that intersect with US foreign policy.
BBC Monitoring contributed to this report
Argentina
An Argentine broadcaster reported that Mr Trump allegedly asked President Mauricio Macri for his support to build an office tower in Buenos Aires while on call during Mr Trump's transition period.
Mr Macri's office and the Trump campaign have denied the report.
However, several days later, the Buenos Aires firm building the tower announced construction of the project was going ahead after years of delays.
Brazil
A waterfront property in Rio de Janeiro, branded with the Trump name through a licensing deal, is the subject of a federal inquiry after two small Brazilian pension funds invested heavily in the unfinished project, with allegations of bribery.
Update: The Trump Organization has reportedly cancelled their licensing deal with the developers in Rio. Trump lawyer Alan Garten told the AP in December this and a few other cancellations were "normal housekeeping" and not part of a strategy to reduce potential conflicts of interests.
Canada
The Trump Organization has licensing deals with two hotel towers in Canada - one in Toronto and one in Vancouver.
The Vancouver building is now open, with a ribbon-cutting ceremony attended by the Trump sons, but the Toronto tower is up for auction after the developer went bankrupt and was put into receivership by a Canadian judge in November.
China
The Bank of China is one of China's largest banks and also majority state-owned. It holds the title on a $950m loan for a New York Building in which Trump is a part owner. Mr Trump has previously labelled China a currency manipulator.
Another largely government-owned Chinese bank - the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China - has space in Trump Tower, paying rent to the Trump Organization.
The Trump Organization has also previously attempted to open a series of hotels in the country, and Trump Hotels chief executive Eric Danziger told a Hong Kong media outlet in October they wanted to open 20 to 30 hotels in the country in 2017.
Meanwhile, Trump's son-in-law and now senior adviser, Jared Kushner, was negotiating a deal with China's Anbang Insurance Group to redevelop 666 Fifth Avenue in New York City before backing out of talks in late March.
Mr Kushner has been given a senior role inside the White House. His lawyer told the New York Times he "would recuse from particular matters that would have a direct and predictable effect on his remaining financial interests" without giving specifics.
Ivanka Trump, who has her own non-paying position at the White House, has advised her father on a broad number of policy areas, including high-profile foreign policy meetings.
On the same day she sat next to Chinese President at a dinner at Mar-a-Lago, the Chinese government approved three new trademarks for Ms Trump's firm to sell items in China.
While Ms Trump has moved her firm to a trust and said she will not partake in decisions could led to conflicts, ethics experts are concerned with the broadening scope of both her business, which bears her name, and her advisory role at the White House.
Dominican Republic
Despite a promise to do "no new deals" while Mr Trump is in office, the Trump Organization is testing that definition in the Dominican Republic.
The firm with developers of a beachfront planned community but the project stalled, and Trump sued in 2012 for unpaid licencing fees.
After a settlement of that lawsuit, the developments did not use the Trump name or discuss any involvement with the Trump Organization.
But in February, owners made a show of announcing Eric Trump had toured the project, saying "we are excited to be working with the Trump Organization in the future phases of the project".
A Trump Organization lawyer has described the deal as "never dead" and said discussions were "very preliminary" but some investors were surprised to find the firm was still technically involved in the project.
Georgia
The Trump Organization cancelled a licensing deal to build a condo tower in the resort town of Batumi, Georgia, shortly after Mr Trump won the election.
The deal had been originally inked in 2011 but stalled amid slow growth in the country.
One of the business partners involved in the deal told Forbes the firm had expressly told him the reason the deal was cancelled was concerns over the Emoluments Clause, despite a Trump lawyer's earlier statement the cancellation was "not part of a strategy to reduce potential conflicts of interests".
ndia
Trump has a licensing deal for buildings in Mumbai and Pune.
One of his deals is with the Lodha Group, whose founder, Mangal Lodha, is also a vice-president in the ruling government party, BJP.Shortly after Mr Trump won the presidency, some of his Indian business partners flew to the US to congratulate Mr Trump, who took time out of transition meetings to discuss "US-India relations".
Indonesia
Two building projects with Trump licensing and management deals have not begun construction in earnest but the Trump Organization continues to be part of the venture.
Mr Trump's partner on the resort projects is Hary Tanoesoedibjo, who ran for vice-president and is well-connected politically in Indonesia. Mr Hary is forming a political party in anticipation of the 2019 elections, the New York Times reports.
In addition, one of Trump's advisers, Carl Icahn, is a major shareholder of Freeport, which is looking to extend a mining contract with the Indonesia government.
Japan
Ivanka Trump sat in with a meeting with her father and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. Ms Trump's own firm is currently finalising a licensing deal with Japanese clothing company Sanei International, although she has now stepped down from the firm as well as the Trump Organization.
The firm's largest shareholder is the Japanese government through the Development Bank of Japan. Ms Trump's company says the deal has been in the works for a while, and the terms were agreed before the election.
Philippines
Philippines' newest trade envoy to the United States is the same man who is building Trump Tower Manila. Like many of Trump's branding projects, Mr Trump does not own the building himself, but licenses his name to the building in return for regular payments.
Trump family members have previously promoted the project, including a promotional video.
The trade envoy/business partner reportedly flew to US to hold a private meeting with Mr Trump after the election.
Saudi Arabia
During the course of the campaign, Trump created eight business ventures tied to a potential real estate deal in Saudi Arabia.
Mr Trump told Fox News earlier this year, he "would want to protect Saudi Arabia. But Saudi Arabia is going to have to help us economically".
Update: A Trump Organization lawyer has told the AP the eight firms have been dissolved or shut and that there is "no deal" in Saudi Arabia. However, the firm could easily re-establish business ties there.
Taiwan
In September, a woman claiming to be an envoy for the Trump Organization discussed potential real estate developments in Taiwan with the mayor of Taoyuan.
The Trump Organization has denied any plans for expansion there and said there were no "authorised visits" to discuss business in the country. The Taoyan mayor's office said the woman had "authorisation documents" but did not specify what kind, the New York Times reported.
A month after his election, Trump called the president of Taiwan directly, breaking decades of existing US foreign policy. It still unclear if the woman is connected with the Trump Organization
Turkey
In 2008, Trump entered a licensing partnership with Turkish conglomerate Dogan Holdings, who were planning to build two residential and business towers in Istanbul's business district.
Relations between Dogan Holdings and Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan have turned sour since the towers opened in 2012.
The Dogan family, also own a paper critical of Mr Erdogan.
An earlier story from Newsweek argues the poisoned relationship between Mr Erdogan and the Dogans means Mr Trump would have a direct conflict between his business interests and his relationship with a US ally.
Turkey's importance in the fight against IS and the Syrian civil war makes the stakes much higher.
UK golf courses
Presumptive Republican nominee for US president Donald Trump visits Trump International Golf Links on June 25, 2016 in Aberdeen, Scotland.
Mr Trump owns two golf courses in Scotland and has recently asked Nigel Farage to oppose wind farms, not because he believed they were bad for the UK or contradicted US energy goals, but because a wind project would potentially lower the value of one of his golf courses.
"He did not say he hated wind farms as a concept; he just did not like them spoiling the views," Andy Wigmore, the Leave.EU communications director at the meeting told the New York Times and the Express.
The golf courses could also be affected as part of Brexit negotiations or a second Scottish independence referendum.
https://www.wsj.com/graphics/donald-trump-potential-conflicts-of-interest/
Trump, His Children, and 500+ Potential Conflicts of Interest
President-elect Donald Trump's complex holdings place him in an unprecedented position
Trump has amassed 3,000 conflicts of interest since taking office
Government watchdog CREW revealed that the president racks up the equivalent of two conflicts of interest per day
https://www.salon.com/2020/03/01/trump-has-amassed-3000-conflicts-of-interest-since-taking-office/
ElNono
10-22-2020, 01:29 PM
It's hilarious watching you try and dismiss the actual recipient of the email as a liar because of who published his statement. Didn't expect to see the semen shield deployed by you of all people.
Who said he's a liar? He had this email for what now, 3+ years? and now suddenly he feels he has some sort of duty to come forward to Breibart out of all people? :lmao
Not to mention Joe wasn't even VP at that point.
Wish I could say I expected better from you, but at this point, it's damn near impossible to overlook how you keep falling absolutely inane stuff.
Just waiting on you to discuss the detailed report.
Unless you were lying about wanting to discuss Trumps family business doings.
Were you lying?
I want to discuss it with Kony, that’s why I asked him.
I’m more than content to sit here and watch your pathetic deflection melt down spam party.
ElNono
10-22-2020, 01:33 PM
Why go through the process of giving a fake affidavit when you could just give the original email?
Don't care.
:lmao
Is that a response?
Yes, I’m sorry you haven’t seen the native email yet.
RD2191
10-22-2020, 01:35 PM
MAGAtards refuse to believe our own intelligence agencies when they report that Trump colluded with Russia yet we're supposed to believe some MAGAtard computer shop owner that's legally blind and old pervert Rudy G? :lol
ElNono
10-22-2020, 01:35 PM
Doesn't sound like child porn is on the laptop.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1319285251575742465
This lines up with the text message from Hunter saying his brother's widow was complaining about Hunter facetiming her daughter while naked and smoking crack.
Rudy Giuliani, OANN, Breibart... you don't see a pattern emerging here? :lol
Meanwhile, not a peep from FBI, DOJ and any reputable media.
Who said he's a liar? He had this email for what now, 3+ years? and now suddenly he feels he has some sort of duty to come forward to Breibart out of all people? :lmao
Not to mention Joe wasn't even VP at that point.
Wish I could say I expected better from you, but at this point, it's damn near impossible to overlook how you keep falling absolutely inane stuff.
Nothing while Joe was VP? :lol please
https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf
spurraider21
10-22-2020, 01:37 PM
MAGAtards refuse to believe our own intelligence agencies when they report that Trump colluded with Russia yet we're supposed to believe some MAGAtard computer shop owner that's legally blind and old pervert Rudy G? :lol
intelligene agencies didnt report that trump colluded with russia, they reported that russia interfered with our election
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 01:37 PM
I want to discuss it with Kony, that’s why I asked him.
I’m more than content to sit here and watch your pathetic deflection melt down spam party.
3000+ Trump and family conflicts of interest. Feel free to not be a lying shit and discuss any of it with him.
or... be a lying shit, and ignore it. You have the detailed report you lied about wanting. :lol
Rudy Giuliani, OANN, Breibart... you don't see a pattern emerging here? :lol
Meanwhile, not a peep from FBI, DOJ and any reputable media.
Why would FBI or DOJ comment on an ongoing investigation?
And lol “reputable media” are trying to protect Joe.
ElNono
10-22-2020, 01:38 PM
Nothing while Joe was VP? :lol please
https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf
:lol stop trying to change what I said. I was talking specifically about that email.
And what is that? Typhoon Investigations? :lmao:lmao:lmao
Oh look, they wrote "strictly confidential", looks legit, tbh
Give me the FBI dossier, something reputable and verifiable.
spurraider21
10-22-2020, 01:38 PM
Nothing while Joe was VP? :lol please
https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf
page/line pls.
this is akin to linking somebody to a 4 hour youtube video and telling them that your proof is somewhere within it
3000+ Trump and family conflicts of interest. Feel free to not be a lying shit and discuss any of it with him.
or... be a lying shit, and ignore it. You have the detailed report you lied about wanting. :lol
https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf
chop chop
Spurminator
10-22-2020, 01:39 PM
Why would FBI or DOJ comment on an ongoing investigation?
The title of this thread, which you started, literally refers to a famous case where the FBI commented on an ongoing investigation.
:lol stop trying to change what I said. I was talking specifically about that email.
And what is that? Typhoon Investigations? :lmao:lmao:lmao
Oh look, they wrote "strictly confidential", looks legit, tbh
Give me the FBI dossier, something reputable and verifiable.
You look stupid laughing like this when it’s obvious you haven’t read it.
RD2191
10-22-2020, 01:39 PM
intelligene agencies didnt report that trump colluded with russia, they reported that russia interfered with our election
Are you saying Trump didn't collude with Russia?
Chris
10-22-2020, 01:41 PM
MAGAtards refuse to believe our own intelligence agencies when they report that Trump colluded with Russia yet we're supposed to believe some MAGAtard computer shop owner that's legally blind and old pervert Rudy G? :lol
Your beloved intelligence agencies confirmed the laptop.
Sorry this is happening to you.
The title of this thread, which you started, literally refers to a famous case where the FBI commented on an ongoing investigation.
Things are quite different without that shitbag Comey around aren’t they.
RD2191
10-22-2020, 01:42 PM
Your beloved intelligence agencies confirmed the laptop.
Sorry this is happening to you.
Link?
ElNono
10-22-2020, 01:43 PM
Why would FBI or DOJ comment on an ongoing investigation?
That makes no sense. Some of these emails date back to 3+ years, the laptop at issue here was picked up by the FBI over a year ago, and zero indictments?
Put a little thought into it, this is basic stuff.
And lol “reputable media” are trying to protect Joe.
lol, sorry, but when you have hard, verifiable evidence, you can't avoid it. The problem is that so far there's none of that here.
ElNono
10-22-2020, 01:44 PM
You look stupid laughing like this when it’s obvious you haven’t read it.
:lol I look stupid? Have you read your own posts in this thread?
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 01:44 PM
so does trump employing his family in powerful positions and them profiting in their personal businesses because of it bother you? yes or no. if not then shut the fuck up
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
A detailed report on Trumps family (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=66&p=10304021&viewfull=1#post10304021)
[hunter biden's "laptop" is really important]
:rollin
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 01:45 PM
Your beloved intelligence agencies confirmed the laptop.
Sorry this is happening to you.
Link?
Spurminator
10-22-2020, 01:46 PM
Things are quite different without that shitbag Comey around aren’t they.
Yep. Which is why Laptop 2: Electric Bungloo is a big fat dud.
ElNono
10-22-2020, 01:48 PM
You look stupid laughing like this when it’s obvious you haven’t read it.
Tell you what, I'm not going to read it either since it's from unknown provenance.
I'll let you give me the cliff notes, so we can all have a laugh together.
Spurs Homer
10-22-2020, 01:48 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao
RG taking TSA to the woodshed and bullying the fuck out of the russian conspiritard!
ElNono
10-22-2020, 01:48 PM
Things are quite different without that shitbag Comey around aren’t they.
Is that why Dear Leader wants to fire Wray? coz things are quite different? :lol
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 01:50 PM
https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf
chop chop
Raison d’être: Typhoon Investigations is an activist research firm protecting companies from foreign influence and threats.
:rollin
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For complex and sensitive investigations concerning Greater China, we provide the following:
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Based in Switzerland and with specialists across the world, we enable informed decision-making in complex political, commercial and regulatory conditions.
We value privacy – no records are kept – giving decision makers peace of mind when embracing the opportunities facing their organization.
Tell me again why the Steele dossier was shady?
:lmao
spurraider21
10-22-2020, 01:53 PM
Are you saying Trump didn't collude with Russia?
basically, yeah. there wasnt any evidence uncovered of it during the mueller probe. it looks like they actually tried to via trump tower meeting tho :lol
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 02:00 PM
basically, yeah. there wasnt any evidence uncovered of it during the mueller probe. it looks like they actually tried to via trump tower meeting tho :lol
Incorrect.
They found plenty of collusion. Collusion is a general term, and easily includes all sorts of secret meetings and discussions. Manafort with Kilimnik, Trump tower, meetings with Russian diplomats, etc.
They didn't find sufficient evidence of criminal conspiracy. Mueller stated that he just didn't have access to the people who would really prove that out, i.e. Russian intelligence agents.
Don't take my word for it.
Read the report.
or go back a bit and find where TSA realized that Mueller did find evidence of things that met the regular definition of "collusion" and stopped using that word. That should be your biggest indicator about that.
Huge difference between "no evidence of collusion" and "insufficient evidence of criminal conspiracy".
Gotta credit right wing propaganda on making people believe the latter was really the former.
ElNono
10-22-2020, 02:02 PM
I trust Mueller and his team when he said there was no evidence of collusion. Ya'll look just as silly when you try to keep peddling that.
I trust Mueller and his team when he said there was no evidence of collusion. Ya'll look just as silly when you try to keep peddling that.
Mueller showd himself to be....less than stellar in his senate hearing.
People like to say Biden is sleepy and not all there but Mueller really makes him look sharp. He looked senile as shit.
Probably done on purpose though.
ElNono
10-22-2020, 02:07 PM
Mueller showd himself to be....less than stellar in his senate hearing.
People like to say Biden is sleepy and not all there but Mueller really makes him look sharp. He looked senile as shit.
Probably done on purpose though.
You can say whatever you want about Mueller, but he wasn't the only one working on the report, and if you actually read the report (or what's non-redacted of it), it's absolutely thorough.
Chris
10-22-2020, 02:08 PM
Link?
confirmed by DNI and FBI
look it up or just read this thread ; )
Chris
10-22-2020, 02:10 PM
21 and George turning on RG :lol
You love to see it :lol
RD2191
10-22-2020, 02:11 PM
basically, yeah. there wasnt any evidence uncovered of it during the mueller probe. it looks like they actually tried to via trump tower meeting tho :lol
I am dissapoint in you son. :lol
ElNono
10-22-2020, 02:11 PM
21 and George turning on RG :lol
You love to see it :lol
I've been saying the same thing since the report came out, maybe you were just doing your bot thing that you do so well and didn't notice :tu
And keep trying with that George schtick, it's been only what, 2 years you've been unsuccessfully trying to prop it :lol
RD2191
10-22-2020, 02:12 PM
confirmed by DNI and FBI
look it up or just read this thread ; )
https://media1.tenor.com/images/095da5909c4bf580e83925796c3a4314/tenor.gif?itemid=11382583
ElNono
10-22-2020, 02:13 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/095da5909c4bf580e83925796c3a4314/tenor.gif?itemid=11382583
well, it's Qhris... very low energy, very low bar...
Chris
10-22-2020, 02:15 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/095da5909c4bf580e83925796c3a4314/tenor.gif?itemid=11382583
You can lead a horse to water...
RD2191
10-22-2020, 02:19 PM
well, it's Qhris... very low energy, very low bar...
:lol
spurraider21
10-22-2020, 02:21 PM
Incorrect.
They found plenty of collusion. Collusion is a general term, and easily includes all sorts of secret meetings and discussions. Manafort with Kilimnik, Trump tower, meetings with Russian diplomats, etc.
They didn't find sufficient evidence of criminal conspiracy. Mueller stated that he just didn't have access to the people who would really prove that out, i.e. Russian intelligence agents.
Don't take my word for it.
Read the report.
or go back a bit and find where TSA realized that Mueller did find evidence of things that met the regular definition of "collusion" and stopped using that word. That should be your biggest indicator about that.
Huge difference between "no evidence of collusion" and "insufficient evidence of criminal conspiracy".
Gotta credit right wing propaganda on making people believe the latter was really the former.
directly from the report.
https://i.gyazo.com/66eb41837069bdcd31d688ed58109071.png
they identified contacts, not coordination. i'm well aware that collusion is a colloquial and not a legal term, but even that by definition requires some degree of coordination or cooperation. you have to let this one go, brah
https://i.gyazo.com/2d292ac66a06858ba1f8aecc846d1ace.png
FrostKing
10-22-2020, 02:25 PM
Chinese collusion
Bogie
10-22-2020, 02:27 PM
directly from the report.
https://i.gyazo.com/66eb41837069bdcd31d688ed58109071.png
they identified contacts, not coordination. i'm well aware that collusion is a colloquial and not a legal term, but even that by definition requires some degree of coordination or cooperation. you have to let this one go, brah
https://i.gyazo.com/2d292ac66a06858ba1f8aecc846d1ace.png
are you taking in to consideration the refusal to comply with subpoenas from the trump crew? Or the instances of outright lies they told to investigators cited in the report?
Chris
10-22-2020, 02:28 PM
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1319352150061973506?s=19
spurraider21
10-22-2020, 02:30 PM
are you taking in to consideration the refusal to comply with subpoenas from the trump crew? Or the instances of outright lies they told to investigators cited in the report?
i think there was a legitimate case for obstruction of justice and the dems in congress pussied out
Tell you what, I'm not going to read it either since it's from unknown provenance.
I'll let you give me the cliff notes, so we can all have a laugh together.Forgive the formatting from transfer of a PDF. Let me know which one's you want to dive in to :bobo
SUMMARY
1.Joe Biden’scompromising partnershipwith the Communist Party of Chinaruns viaYang Jiechi(CPC’s Central Foreign Affairs Commission).YANG metfrequentlywith BIDENduring his tenure at the Chinese embassy in Washington.
2.Hunter Biden’s2013 Bohai Harvest Rosemont investment partnership was set-up by Ministry of Foreign Affairs institutionsdesigned to garner influence with foreign leaders during YANG’s tenure as Foreign Minister.
3.HUNTER has a direct line to the Politburo, according to SOURCE A, a senior finance professional in China.
4.Michael Lin brokered the BHRpartnershipand partners with MOFAforeign influence organizations.
5.LIN is a POI for his work on behalf of China, as confirmed by SOURCE B and SOURCEC(at two separate national intelligence agencies).
6.BHR is a state managed operation. Leading shareholder in BHRis a Bank of China and BHR’s partnersare SOEsthatfunnel revenue/assets to BHR.
7.HUNTERcontinues to hold 10%in BHR. He visited China in 2010 and met with major Chinese government financial companies that would later back BHR.
8.HUNTER’s BHR stake (purchasedfor $400,000)is now likely be worth approx. $50 million(fees and capital appreciation based onBHR’s $6.5 billion AUM).
9.HUNTER also did business with Chinese tycoons linked with the Chinese militaryand against the interests of US national security.
10.BIDEN’s foreign policy stance towards China(formerly hawkish), has since turned positive despite China’scountry’s rising geopolitical assertiveness.
:rollin
Tell me again why the Steele dossier was shady?
:lmao
Steele's main source was a Russian agent and Russia knew he was compiling a dossier. Any more stupid questions?
SnakeBoy
10-22-2020, 02:58 PM
1319363509038219270
Yes, I’m sorry you haven’t seen the native email yet.
You're sorry that you think it more logical to give a fake affidavit to an incredibly biased "news" outlet rather than posting the email (that the guy claims to have) online? What are you saying here - use your words not your memes.
Bogie
10-22-2020, 03:03 PM
You're sorry that you think it more logical to give a fake affidavit to an incredibly biased "news" outlet rather than posting the email (that the guy claims to have) online? What are you saying here - use your words not your memes.
he can’t
1319363509038219270
Trump is really trying to replicate all of 2016 key moments. :lol
He thinks bringing out this guy who Biden himself probably doesn't even know will have the same effect as Bill's whores?
https://typhooninvestigations.wordpress.com/
Seems like a legit outfit
Dirks_Finale
10-22-2020, 03:08 PM
Trump is really trying to replicate all of 2016 key moments. :lol
He thinks bringing out this guy who Biden himself probably doesn't even know will have the same effect as Bill's whores?:lol
ElNono
10-22-2020, 03:11 PM
Forgive the formatting from transfer of a PDF. Let me know which one's you want to dive in to :bobo
SUMMARY
1.Joe Biden’scompromising partnershipwith the Communist Party of Chinaruns viaYang Jiechi(CPC’s Central Foreign Affairs Commission).YANG metfrequentlywith BIDENduring his tenure at the Chinese embassy in Washington.
2.Hunter Biden’s2013 Bohai Harvest Rosemont investment partnership was set-up by Ministry of Foreign Affairs institutionsdesigned to garner influence with foreign leaders during YANG’s tenure as Foreign Minister.
3.HUNTER has a direct line to the Politburo, according to SOURCE A, a senior finance professional in China.
4.Michael Lin brokered the BHRpartnershipand partners with MOFAforeign influence organizations.
5.LIN is a POI for his work on behalf of China, as confirmed by SOURCE B and SOURCEC(at two separate national intelligence agencies).
6.BHR is a state managed operation. Leading shareholder in BHRis a Bank of China and BHR’s partnersare SOEsthatfunnel revenue/assets to BHR.
7.HUNTERcontinues to hold 10%in BHR. He visited China in 2010 and met with major Chinese government financial companies that would later back BHR.
8.HUNTER’s BHR stake (purchasedfor $400,000)is now likely be worth approx. $50 million(fees and capital appreciation based onBHR’s $6.5 billion AUM).
9.HUNTER also did business with Chinese tycoons linked with the Chinese militaryand against the interests of US national security.
10.BIDEN’s foreign policy stance towards China(formerly hawkish), has since turned positive despite China’scountry’s rising geopolitical assertiveness.
Thank you. Nothing to dive into, really, looks like another nothingburger, provided it's true at all. :tu
Trump is really trying to replicate all of 2016 key moments. :lol
He thinks bringing out this guy who Biden himself probably doesn't even know will have the same effect as Bill's whores?
Biden most definitely knows him.
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1319356609798262785
ElNono
10-22-2020, 03:12 PM
https://typhooninvestigations.wordpress.com/
Seems like a legit outfit
premiere intelligence firm can't even host it's own website... sounds completely legit :lol
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 03:13 PM
directly from the report.
https://i.gyazo.com/66eb41837069bdcd31d688ed58109071.png
they identified contacts, not coordination. i'm well aware that collusion is a colloquial and not a legal term, but even that by definition requires some degree of coordination or cooperation. you have to let this one go, brah
https://i.gyazo.com/2d292ac66a06858ba1f8aecc846d1ace.png
again, "did not establish" is not the same as "no evidence".
He admitted he couldn't get sufficient evidence to establish, and where he didn't have any evidence he said that explicitly.
Manafort gave a Russian asset internal polling/voter data in the middle of Russian efforts to interfere in the election. Sorry man, that seems pretty clear to me. Mueller couldn't get Kilimnik on the stand, so proving what happened to that data is not something we are ever really going to get a handle on.
Serious question:
What do you think Russian intelligence would have done with detailed voter information of the kind that campaigns compile in 2016?
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 03:14 PM
[hunter Biden's "laptop" is really really important]
------------------------------------------------------------------
so does trump employing his family in powerful positions and them profiting in their personal businesses because of it bother you? yes or no. if not then shut the fuck up
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
A detailed report on Trumps family with dozens of scandals and thousands of conflicts of interest (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=66&p=10304021&viewfull=1#post10304021)
[hunter biden's "laptop" is really important]
:rollin
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 03:15 PM
premiere intelligence firm can't even host it's own website... sounds completely legit :lol
Eyup. MY thoughts exactly.
Skeezy Bannon operation MO all over the place.
You're sorry that you think it more logical to give a fake affidavit to an incredibly biased "news" outlet rather than posting the email (that the guy claims to have) online? What are you saying here - use your words not your memes.
He's already handing over documents to the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. I have no reason to believe he is also forging documents at the same time.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 03:16 PM
Biden most definitely knows him.
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1319356609798262785
Raison d’être: Typhoon Investigations is an activist research firm protecting companies from foreign influence and threats.
:rollin
Typhoon Investigations
Need Protection Against the World’s No.1 Attack Vector?
For complex and sensitive investigations concerning Greater China, we provide the following:
Corporate investigations into IP theft, fraud, and corruption
Employee background screening for hidden political/military ties
Political risk management on complex Chinese targets
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:lmao
Chris
10-22-2020, 03:16 PM
Thank you. Nothing to dive into, really, looks like another nothingburger, provided it's true at all. :tu
George folds.
ElNono
10-22-2020, 03:16 PM
Biden most definitely knows him.
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1319356609798262785
Don't forget you guys told us Joe was forgetful and pretty much a zombie up to about a week ago, tbh...
He might not very well remember this person at all...
ElNono
10-22-2020, 03:17 PM
George folds.
Calling it like I see it. Sorry this is happening to you.
premiere intelligence firm can't even host it's own website... sounds completely legit :lol
Still haven't read it yet have you. Again you look foolish commenting on anything about it having not taken the time to read it.
RandomGuy calling into question the validity of any dossier after 100% swallowing the Steele dossier is the chef's kiss :lmao
https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1319368980134563840
https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1319368982630195212
ElNono
10-22-2020, 03:27 PM
Still haven't read it yet have you. Again you look foolish commenting on anything about it having not taken the time to read it.
Would would anybody read that? Unverified source, came from the twitters, might as well been written by a pepe the frog fan.
ElNono
10-22-2020, 03:28 PM
https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1319368980134563840
https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1319368982630195212
:lmao:lmao:lmao
Would would anybody read that? Unverified source, came from the twitters, might as well been written by a pepe the frog fan.
Thoroughly sourced throughout.
ElNono
10-22-2020, 03:33 PM
Thoroughly sourced throughout.
who's the source of the doc itself?
BTW, not only they need a better website, they should really sub for some Word lessons. They're cheap online too.
ElNono
10-22-2020, 03:34 PM
BTW, any updates on this whole giving Joe some rope to hung himself? :lol
When are the charges coming?
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 03:35 PM
:lol looks like another 500k more voters are going to have their ballots processed today without knowledge of all the damning Hunter Biden evidence Rudy doesn’t want to the release to the public yet
:lol 10D chess
Trill Clinton
10-22-2020, 03:37 PM
1319348556105281536
come on man
I'm sure they can simply ignore their request like the Trump people have done for the past 3 years and a half. Fair is fair right?
BTW, any updates on this whole giving Joe some rope to hung himself? :lol
When are the charges coming?
When did I ever claim Joe was going to be charged with anything from this?
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 03:39 PM
BTW, any updates on this whole giving Joe some rope to hung himself? :lol
When are the charges coming?
3pm on November 3rd. It’s gonna have MASSIVE implications for the 10% of the electorate that hasn’t voted by then, but they gotta give Biden some rope first :lol
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 03:39 PM
[another post not discussing detailed list of Trump family scandals and conflicts of interest]
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so does trump employing his family in powerful positions and them profiting in their personal businesses because of it bother you? yes or no. if not then shut the fuck up
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
A detailed report on Trumps family with dozens of scandals and thousands of conflicts of interest (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=66&p=10304021&viewfull=1#post10304021)
[hunter biden's "laptop" is really important]
:rollin
Joseph Kony
10-22-2020, 03:40 PM
1319348556105281536
come on man
:lmao :lmao
the amount of time these clowns are wasting clutching at nothing is hilarious
Joseph Kony
10-22-2020, 03:41 PM
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:rollin
im sure because i am not the one who posted the response he is acting like it doesnt exist :lmao
ElNono
10-22-2020, 03:41 PM
When did I ever claim Joe was going to be charged with anything from this?
So what's the endgame from all this? Just smear Joe and hope people don't vote for him?
I might have to put RG on ignore until his meltdown ends. Shitting up the entire thread and I'm going wear out scroll wheel scrolling skipping over all his pathetic deflections.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 03:42 PM
Thoroughly sourced throughout.
Raison d’être: Typhoon Investigations is an activist research firm protecting companies from foreign influence and threats.
:rollin
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ElNono
10-22-2020, 03:43 PM
3pm on November 3rd. It’s gonna have MASSIVE implications for the 10% of the electorate that hasn’t voted by then, but they gotta give Biden some rope first :lol
40D chess...
Joseph Kony
10-22-2020, 03:43 PM
I might have to put RG on ignore until his meltdown ends. Shitting up the entire thread and I'm going wear out scroll wheel scrolling skipping over all his pathetic deflections.
you asked me for proof and he provided it. you're refusing to acknowledge it and just keep spamming more shitty tweets :lol only one melting down and deflecting is you scrah
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 03:44 PM
I might have to put RG on ignore until his meltdown ends. Shitting up the entire thread and I'm going wear out scroll wheel scrolling skipping over all his pathetic deflections.
Everybody else will see you deflecting from Trumps dozens of corruption scandals and thousands of conflicts of interest to talk about the fake laptops.
I will continue shitting on your bad faith thread. So fuck off and do it already, you lying sack of shit.
spurraider21
10-22-2020, 03:44 PM
again, "did not establish" is not the same as "no evidence".
He admitted he couldn't get sufficient evidence to establish, and where he didn't have any evidence he said that explicitly.
Manafort gave a Russian asset internal polling/voter data in the middle of Russian efforts to interfere in the election. Sorry man, that seems pretty clear to me. Mueller couldn't get Kilimnik on the stand, so proving what happened to that data is not something we are ever really going to get a handle on.
then ok. they didnt have enough evidence to establish any coordination or cooperation
Serious question:
What do you think Russian intelligence would have done with detailed voter information of the kind that campaigns compile in 2016?
i would imagine it helped them target and plan out their interference campaign
you asked me for proof and he provided it. you're refusing to acknowledge it and just keep spamming more shitty tweets :lol only one melting down and deflecting is you scrah
Not quite.
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
Have you read the entire report I linked to yet?
Chris
10-22-2020, 04:10 PM
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1319374423644917761?s=19
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 04:11 PM
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1319321762274959362?s=20
These propagandists are being exposed on a daily basis. It's a beautiful thing.
Chris
10-22-2020, 04:14 PM
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1319361210828161024?s=19
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1319361210828161024?s=19
You probably think those family circus cartoons are hilarious too
Everybody else will see you deflecting from Trumps dozens of corruption scandals and thousands of conflicts of interest to talk about the fake laptops.
I will continue shitting on your bad faith thread. So fuck off and do it already, you lying sack of shit.
You are in a thread I started about Hunter Biden. You are spamming articles about Donald Trump to avoid discussing Hunter Biden. A clearer case of deflection can't be made.
Go ahead, melt down again. Show everyone you aren't unhinged.
Chris
10-22-2020, 04:19 PM
You probably think those family circus cartoons are hilarious too
Your posts from the salt mines are slightly entertaining fwiw
SnakeBoy
10-22-2020, 04:20 PM
1319368973494984704
They forgot to request documents from Sum Ting Wong and Ho Lee Fuk
Your posts from the salt mines are slightly entertaining fwiw
Not as good as yours coming live from momma and deddeh’s basemant, but thanks lil guy
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1319374423644917761?s=19
https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1319374423644917761?s=19
Are you ok, Bot?
Literally stumbling his way through the site with the same spam. :lol
:lol MAGAtards are delusional if they think Biden is going to be caught off guard with Huntergate on Thursday. They're either going to respond to all of this stupidity with an official statement before the debate and/or Biden will come prepared with a canned response. If Trump tries to make Hunter Biden the pivotal issue of the debate it's not going to end well for him.
Biden campaign is going to roll with it's Russian disinformation :lmao
https://mobile.twitter.com/KThomasDC/status/1319344962773929990
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 04:28 PM
You fools still shielding corrupt Joe?
Chris
10-22-2020, 04:31 PM
Are you ok, Bot?
Literally stumbling his way through the site with the same spam. :lol
I posted it in both threads because it is an amazing watch.
Sorry this is happening to you.
Bogie
10-22-2020, 04:36 PM
Not quite.
Have you read the entire report I linked to yet?
its past 2 pm. You said you’re rarely here, so why did you lie about that too?
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 04:36 PM
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1319355676162985993?s=20
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 04:40 PM
Biden campaign is going to roll with it's Russian disinformation :lmao
https://mobile.twitter.com/KThomasDC/status/1319344962773929990
You’re still prematurely declaring victory when there’s absolutely no data to suggest anyone beyond Trump’s staunchest MAGAtard supporters gives a shit about this.
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 04:41 PM
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1319355676162985993?s=20
By text messages, you mean screen shots of what purport to be text messages?
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 04:48 PM
Joe Biden wasn’t Vice President in 2017. He was a private citizen. What illegal or corrupt activity are the MAGAtards saying he engaged in after he was out of office?
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 04:50 PM
https://twitter.com/BernardKerik/status/1319381958099685379?s=20
Corrupt Joe is really exposing how corrupt the media, big tech, and the government are tbh. For that we should be thankful for the Biden run.
ChumpDumper
10-22-2020, 04:52 PM
https://twitter.com/BernardKerik/status/1319381958099685379?s=20
Corrupt Joe is really exposing how corrupt the media, big tech, and the government are tbh. For that we should be thankful for the Biden run.Why not just produce the actual email files to CBS for verification?
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 04:54 PM
By text messages, you mean screen shots of what purport to be text messages?
The media regularly blasts negative rumors about Trump and writes articles showing zero evidence.
Tell me when the Biden campaign refutes anything.
Ef-man
10-22-2020, 04:55 PM
The shop owner has bad vision and could not confirm who dropped off item. Why lie about that, unless it is all fake?
https://twitter.com/BernardKerik/status/1319381958099685379?s=20
Corrupt Joe is really exposing how corrupt the media, big tech, and the government are tbh. For that we should be thankful for the Biden run.
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 04:56 PM
Why not just produce the actual email files to CBS for verification?
Has the Biden campaign refuted the emails?
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 04:58 PM
you asked me for proof and he provided it. you're refusing to acknowledge it and just keep spamming more shitty tweets :lol only one melting down and deflecting is you scrah
The most telling part is that his request seemed to almost incorporate the idea that no such detailed listing existed for Trump and his grifty-ass family.
He is so far into the weeds of conservative media, where Trump's corruption just doesn't exist, and the only corruption is that of Democrats, it seems to have not even occurred to him that such a detailed list might exist.
The fact that it not only exists, but is longer, and more serious than anything in these fake ass laptops, is something he just simply can't handle.
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 05:00 PM
https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1319285351165222917?s=20
Notice he doesn't refute the email.
All indications so far point to the emails be legitimate.
Let me know when the Biden campaign says otherwise.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 05:00 PM
Has the Biden campaign refuted the emails?
Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex.../#68f3536b4330
Who does Trump owe the money to?
Reports of Trump's secret Chinese bank account spark controversy
There's a lot to unpack in the new reporting, but it's probably worth dwelling on Trump's previously undisclosed bank account in China.
https://www.nbcnews.com/rachel-maddo...versy-n1244186
Whistleblower says Ivanka, Jared got security clearance over experts' advice
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1RD2HU
https://time.com/4578431/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interest-list/
2. Foreign Interests
More than 100 Trump companies have done business in 18 countries. One extraordinary conflict of interest is an effort by eight mysterious Trump companies established on the eve of Trump’s campaign to develop luxury real estate projects in Saudi Arabia—a country that Trump explicitly said he hopes to protect as president.
It’s also clear that Trump may not be shy about mixing and matching official White House duties with those involving foreign business interests. Just last week, Trump met with three Indian business partners at Trump Tower to discuss a luxury apartment complex they’re developing together near Mumbai, the New York Times reported. For this meeting, at least, there was no apparent effort to separate his business dealings from his work as the President-elect, though a spokeswoman for the Trump organization described it as nothing more than a courtesy visit rather than a business meeting. Those Indian executives, however, have told Indian newspapers that they had been discussing the possibility of expanding their business deals with the Trump organization now that he was the President-elect, the Times reported.
Regardless of whether any sorts of business partnership expansions were discussed, legal experts say that such meetings alone raise conflict of interest questions for Trump because there is at least the appearance that he could be using the White House to advance his own business interests. Ivanka Trump joined a Trump White House transition team meeting with Japan’s leader, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, last week, which prompted even more questions about how closely aligned Trump’s business interests will be with affairs of state.
3. Family Matters
Relatives and family members who are currently making important decisions about what a Trump administration will look like will come under intense media scrutiny—especially for those who choose to work in the White House or take on official advisory council posts. Trump’s closest advisors have said in recent weeks that they would like to see his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, become a senior White House official, reflecting his clear and obvious role in major decisions the President-elect has made since the election.
Kushner, for instance, has been widely credited with the decision to replace Gov. Chris Christie as the head of the Trump transition efforts. There is, however, a large, potential conflict of interest looming. After former President John F. Kennedy made his brother, Robert, the attorney general, Congress passed an anti-nepotism law. That 1967 law is still on the books, and there isn’t an easy way around it—even if Kushner chooses not to take a salary as a senior White House official. It bans public officials, especially presidents, from hiring their relatives for jobs in federal agencies and Cabinet posts.
Trump advisors, however, believe the anti-nepotism law doesn’t apply to the White House—a conflict that could be tested early in Trump’s presidency if he allows his son-in-law to operate out of the West Wing. “This falls right in the bull’s eye of the statute. I think it’s illegal,” Norm Eisen, who was President Obama’s chief ethics counsel, told Politico. Other legal experts, though, feel Kushner can serve as an unpaid advisor in the White House.
Republicans, likewise, don’t see any conflicts at all in Trump’s family members managing the national government. “For goodness sake, JFK put his brother over at the Justice Department. It’s not like these things are new and unprecedented,” Rep. Tom Cole said. And if Trump wants to give Kushner or his daughter, Ivanka Trump, access to intelligence briefings, he could appoint them to White House councils like the intelligence advisory board without any oversight from Congress or intelligence agencies providing classified briefings.
https://time.com/4578431/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interest-list/
5. Lending, Financial Institutions and Economic Policy
And, in the U.S., economic and monetary policy discussions at a Trump White House will have a direct impact on federal institutions like Treasury, the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Service—all of which impact, audit or affect both his domestic and international business interests. The question of whether Trump is taking his own business interests into White House consideration on financial and economic policy considerations is one that critics and others are almost certain to raise repeatedly during his presidency.
40 Wall Street
40 Wall street
The Trump Organization owns the right to lease the space in this office building in Manhattan - and makes money from the rent paid to the building.
According to Bloomberg News, there are five ongoing federal investigations into current or former tenants of 40 Wall Street, mostly for securities fraud.
Those investigations are headed up by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
Mr Trump's appointee to head the SEC, Jay Clayton, has been criticised for his ties to Wall Street firms by Democrats during his confirmation hearings.
Dakota Access Pipeline
Native Americans march to the site of a sacred burial ground that was disturbed by bulldozers building the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL), near the encampment where hundreds of people have gathered to join the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe's protest of the oil pipeline slated to cross the nearby Missouri River, September 4, 2016 near Cannon Ball, North Dakota
It's unclear if the president has also sold his stock in Phillips 66, as his last financial disclosure was in May 2016.
Update:
On 24 January, Mr Trump signed an executive order paving the way for final construction of the pipeline. ETP began work in early February and oil is expected to flow by early April. The pipeline remains the subject of a lawsuit by the Cheyenne River Sioux.
Deutsche Bank
One of Trump's major lenders on his real estate projects is Deutsche Bank.
The bank is currently in negotiations with the US justice department to settle a case involving misleading buyers when it sold mortgage bonds backed by risky loans.
Update: Deutsche Bank settled the mortgage bonds case for $7.2bn in late December 2016.
The FCC
The president has another job title beyond "commander-in-chief": executive producer. He will continue to have a "big stake" in The Celebrity Apprentice, which airs on NBC, linking Mr Trump's business interests with the network.
NBC and its parent company, Comcast, is regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). Mr Trump's pick for the chairman, Ajit Pai, will be need to be reconfirmed by the Senate this year, in order to continue on at the commission.
National Labor Relations Board
On 3 November, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) ruled that Trump International Hotel Las Vegas - which Trump co-owns - broke the law by refusing to negotiate with a hotel workers' union.
The hotel appealed the case to a higher court. But three other labour disputes involving the Las Vegas hotel are currently before the board, as well as several others involving the Trump Organization.
NLRB is facing an unprecedented situation on how to rule on disputes that will affect the president's business. Mr Trump has named current board member Philip Miscimarra as acting chair and will be able to appoint two new members to vacant spots.
Secret Service
Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump departs in his plane after rallying with supporters in a cargo hangar at Minneapolis Saint Paul International Airport in Minneapolis, Minnesota, U.S. November 6, 2016
During the campaign, Trump's airplane company, TAG Air, billed the Secret Service for flying on Trump's Boeing 757 while protecting the candidate. It is standard for Secret Service to pay their own way on private aircraft, and during the campaign, this was tracked by the Federal Election Commission through campaign finance reports.
Secret Service has also paid to protect Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr, as members of the president's family - even as they travel to take care of business for the Trump Organization.
Stocks
Jason Miller, the transition team's spokesman, has said the president sold all his stocks in June 2016, a month after the required financial disclosure, but the campaign did not furnish proof nor provide an updated list of Mr Trump's investments.
Since his election, Mr Trump has singled out specific companies for criticism on Twitter, causing price swings on the stock market. If Mr Trump still owns these stocks, he could make money off of selling and buying before and after such tweets.
Foreign holdings
According to Trump's financial disclosure, as of mid-2016, he had investments in or owned companies in at least 20 countries. Unlike his domestic business, Mr Trump could run afoul of a clause in the US constitution by continuing to profit from these deals.
The emoluments clause specifically prevents anyone who holds a US "office of trust or profit" from accepting gifts, payments or any benefit from a foreign nation.
Even routine business benefits like tax breaks could violate the emoluments clause.
One former White House ethics lawyer has argued Mr Trump would be violation of the constitution "on day one".
In addition to emoluments, Mr Trump's foreign policy decisions could be called into question in any country in which the Trump Organization does business, especially when his policies would benefit the firm's holdings overseas.Here are some of Mr Trump's larger business deals that intersect with US foreign policy.
BBC Monitoring contributed to this report
Argentina
An Argentine broadcaster reported that Mr Trump allegedly asked President Mauricio Macri for his support to build an office tower in Buenos Aires while on call during Mr Trump's transition period.
Mr Macri's office and the Trump campaign have denied the report.
However, several days later, the Buenos Aires firm building the tower announced construction of the project was going ahead after years of delays.
Brazil
A waterfront property in Rio de Janeiro, branded with the Trump name through a licensing deal, is the subject of a federal inquiry after two small Brazilian pension funds invested heavily in the unfinished project, with allegations of bribery.
Update: The Trump Organization has reportedly cancelled their licensing deal with the developers in Rio. Trump lawyer Alan Garten told the AP in December this and a few other cancellations were "normal housekeeping" and not part of a strategy to reduce potential conflicts of interests.
Canada
The Trump Organization has licensing deals with two hotel towers in Canada - one in Toronto and one in Vancouver.
The Vancouver building is now open, with a ribbon-cutting ceremony attended by the Trump sons, but the Toronto tower is up for auction after the developer went bankrupt and was put into receivership by a Canadian judge in November.
China
The Bank of China is one of China's largest banks and also majority state-owned. It holds the title on a $950m loan for a New York Building in which Trump is a part owner. Mr Trump has previously labelled China a currency manipulator.
Another largely government-owned Chinese bank - the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China - has space in Trump Tower, paying rent to the Trump Organization.
The Trump Organization has also previously attempted to open a series of hotels in the country, and Trump Hotels chief executive Eric Danziger told a Hong Kong media outlet in October they wanted to open 20 to 30 hotels in the country in 2017.
Meanwhile, Trump's son-in-law and now senior adviser, Jared Kushner, was negotiating a deal with China's Anbang Insurance Group to redevelop 666 Fifth Avenue in New York City before backing out of talks in late March.
Mr Kushner has been given a senior role inside the White House. His lawyer told the New York Times he "would recuse from particular matters that would have a direct and predictable effect on his remaining financial interests" without giving specifics.
Ivanka Trump, who has her own non-paying position at the White House, has advised her father on a broad number of policy areas, including high-profile foreign policy meetings.
On the same day she sat next to Chinese President at a dinner at Mar-a-Lago, the Chinese government approved three new trademarks for Ms Trump's firm to sell items in China.
While Ms Trump has moved her firm to a trust and said she will not partake in decisions could led to conflicts, ethics experts are concerned with the broadening scope of both her business, which bears her name, and her advisory role at the White House.
Dominican Republic
Despite a promise to do "no new deals" while Mr Trump is in office, the Trump Organization is testing that definition in the Dominican Republic.
The firm with developers of a beachfront planned community but the project stalled, and Trump sued in 2012 for unpaid licencing fees.
After a settlement of that lawsuit, the developments did not use the Trump name or discuss any involvement with the Trump Organization.
But in February, owners made a show of announcing Eric Trump had toured the project, saying "we are excited to be working with the Trump Organization in the future phases of the project".
A Trump Organization lawyer has described the deal as "never dead" and said discussions were "very preliminary" but some investors were surprised to find the firm was still technically involved in the project.
Georgia
The Trump Organization cancelled a licensing deal to build a condo tower in the resort town of Batumi, Georgia, shortly after Mr Trump won the election.
The deal had been originally inked in 2011 but stalled amid slow growth in the country.
One of the business partners involved in the deal told Forbes the firm had expressly told him the reason the deal was cancelled was concerns over the Emoluments Clause, despite a Trump lawyer's earlier statement the cancellation was "not part of a strategy to reduce potential conflicts of interests".
ndia
Trump has a licensing deal for buildings in Mumbai and Pune.
One of his deals is with the Lodha Group, whose founder, Mangal Lodha, is also a vice-president in the ruling government party, BJP.Shortly after Mr Trump won the presidency, some of his Indian business partners flew to the US to congratulate Mr Trump, who took time out of transition meetings to discuss "US-India relations".
Indonesia
Two building projects with Trump licensing and management deals have not begun construction in earnest but the Trump Organization continues to be part of the venture.
Mr Trump's partner on the resort projects is Hary Tanoesoedibjo, who ran for vice-president and is well-connected politically in Indonesia. Mr Hary is forming a political party in anticipation of the 2019 elections, the New York Times reports.
In addition, one of Trump's advisers, Carl Icahn, is a major shareholder of Freeport, which is looking to extend a mining contract with the Indonesia government.
Japan
Ivanka Trump sat in with a meeting with her father and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. Ms Trump's own firm is currently finalising a licensing deal with Japanese clothing company Sanei International, although she has now stepped down from the firm as well as the Trump Organization.
The firm's largest shareholder is the Japanese government through the Development Bank of Japan. Ms Trump's company says the deal has been in the works for a while, and the terms were agreed before the election.
Philippines
Philippines' newest trade envoy to the United States is the same man who is building Trump Tower Manila. Like many of Trump's branding projects, Mr Trump does not own the building himself, but licenses his name to the building in return for regular payments.
Trump family members have previously promoted the project, including a promotional video.
The trade envoy/business partner reportedly flew to US to hold a private meeting with Mr Trump after the election.
Saudi Arabia
During the course of the campaign, Trump created eight business ventures tied to a potential real estate deal in Saudi Arabia.
Mr Trump told Fox News earlier this year, he "would want to protect Saudi Arabia. But Saudi Arabia is going to have to help us economically".
Update: A Trump Organization lawyer has told the AP the eight firms have been dissolved or shut and that there is "no deal" in Saudi Arabia. However, the firm could easily re-establish business ties there.
Taiwan
In September, a woman claiming to be an envoy for the Trump Organization discussed potential real estate developments in Taiwan with the mayor of Taoyuan.
The Trump Organization has denied any plans for expansion there and said there were no "authorised visits" to discuss business in the country. The Taoyan mayor's office said the woman had "authorisation documents" but did not specify what kind, the New York Times reported.
A month after his election, Trump called the president of Taiwan directly, breaking decades of existing US foreign policy. It still unclear if the woman is connected with the Trump Organization
Turkey
In 2008, Trump entered a licensing partnership with Turkish conglomerate Dogan Holdings, who were planning to build two residential and business towers in Istanbul's business district.
Relations between Dogan Holdings and Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan have turned sour since the towers opened in 2012.
The Dogan family, also own a paper critical of Mr Erdogan.
An earlier story from Newsweek argues the poisoned relationship between Mr Erdogan and the Dogans means Mr Trump would have a direct conflict between his business interests and his relationship with a US ally.
Turkey's importance in the fight against IS and the Syrian civil war makes the stakes much higher.
UK golf courses
Presumptive Republican nominee for US president Donald Trump visits Trump International Golf Links on June 25, 2016 in Aberdeen, Scotland.
Mr Trump owns two golf courses in Scotland and has recently asked Nigel Farage to oppose wind farms, not because he believed they were bad for the UK or contradicted US energy goals, but because a wind project would potentially lower the value of one of his golf courses.
"He did not say he hated wind farms as a concept; he just did not like them spoiling the views," Andy Wigmore, the Leave.EU communications director at the meeting told the New York Times and the Express.
The golf courses could also be affected as part of Brexit negotiations or a second Scottish independence referendum.
https://www.wsj.com/graphics/donald-trump-potential-conflicts-of-interest/
Trump, His Children, and 500+ Potential Conflicts of Interest
President-elect Donald Trump's complex holdings place him in an unprecedented position
Trump has amassed 3,000 conflicts of interest since taking office
Government watchdog CREW revealed that the president racks up the equivalent of two conflicts of interest per day
https://www.salon.com/2020/03/01/trump-has-amassed-3000-conflicts-of-interest-since-taking-office/
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 05:02 PM
The media regularly blasts negative rumors about Trump and writes articles showing zero evidence.
Tell me when the Biden campaign refutes anything.
It would be a full time job refuting each and every retarded right wing conspiracy theory. The “well he didn’t deny it so it must be true!” standard of proof is confirmation bias from MAGAtards who are butthurt that their conspiracy theories haven’t impacted Biden’s campaign.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 05:02 PM
The media regularly blasts negative rumors about Trump and writes articles showing zero evidence.
Tell me when the Biden campaign refutes anything.
plenty of evidence about Trump corruption scandals.
Which one of the 3000 do you want to address?
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 05:09 PM
You are in a thread I started about Hunter Biden. You are spamming articles about Donald Trump to avoid discussing Hunter Biden. A clearer case of deflection can't be made.
Go ahead, melt down again. Show everyone you aren't unhinged.
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so does trump employing his family in powerful positions and them profiting in their personal businesses because of it bother you? yes or no. if not then shut the fuck up
I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.
A detailed report on Trumps family with dozens of scandals and thousands of conflicts of interest (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=66&p=10304021&viewfull=1#post10304021)
[hunter biden's "laptop" is really important]
:rollin
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 05:11 PM
A business man having debt is not noteworthy.
Joseph Kony
10-22-2020, 05:13 PM
what is the point of refuting some retarded bullshit anyway :lol Maga faggots will just say "AHA! ITS TRUE!" if he confirms, or "AHA! HE'S LYING!" if they deny :lol you have a million other instances of trump directly tied to scandals and you braindead troglodytes are clinging to hunter bidens laptop :lmao :lmao :lmao
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 05:15 PM
It would be a full time job refuting each and every retarded right wing conspiracy theory. The “well he didn’t deny it so it must be true!” standard of proof is confirmation bias from MAGAtards who are butthurt that their conspiracy theories haven’t impacted Biden’s campaign.
Yeah, him not having the time is reason he's silent. He has better uses of his time like spreading the fine people hoax.
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 05:16 PM
It’s not even clear what Biden should be denying. MAGAtards have pivoted from the original Ukraine stuff to a Chinese venture in 2017, after he was Vice President.
Joseph Kony
10-22-2020, 05:16 PM
Yeah, him not having the time is reason he's silent. He has better uses of his time like spreading the fine people hoax.
why do you pretend to care about this yet you dont care about all of trumps corruption? :lol i see you and all your little tard crew is ignoring RG's post in every thread he posts it in :lol
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 05:17 PM
A business man having debt is not noteworthy.
The president personally owing a billion dollars to SOMEONE is.
Who does Trump owe all that money to, and what favors is he doing for them to get a better deal on it?
The bank is currently in negotiations with the US justice department to settle a case involving misleading buyers when it sold mortgage bonds backed by risky loans.
Update: Deutsche Bank settled the mortgage bonds case for $7.2bn in late December 2016.
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 05:18 PM
why do you pretend to care about this yet you dont care about all of trumps corruption? :lol i see you and all your little tard crew is ignoring RG's post in every thread he posts it in :lol
They also still haven’t explained what it is Joe Biden did wrong when he was a private citizen in 2017.
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 05:19 PM
I love the corruption theory with China involving Trump. Seem to recall them censoring Trump at the debate and airing weak on China Biden.
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 05:23 PM
The president personally owing a billion dollars to SOMEONE is.
Who does Trump owe all that money to, and what favors is he doing for them to get a better deal on it?
That article says he has plenty of assets to cover it.
This thread is about corrupt Joe tbh. I know you are playing your whataboutism game to shield him but I don't really plan entertaining it. The news covers everything about Trump. They are silent on corrupt Joe.
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 05:27 PM
I love the corruption theory with China involving Trump. Seem to recall them censoring Trump at the debate and airing weak on China Biden.
China Contributing $500 Million to Trump-Linked Project in Indonesia
The Chinese government is extending a $500 million loan to a state-owned construction company to build an Indonesian theme park that will feature a Trump-branded golf course and hotels.
A subsidiary of Chinese state-owned construction firm Metallurgical Corporation of China (MCC) signed a deal last week with the Indonesian firm MNC Land to build an “integrated lifestyle resort,” as part of Beijing’s global influence-expanding “Belt and Road” infrastructure initiative.
May 2018: Trump gets involved
Trump tweets his support for ZTE, and insists he is working towards a deal to get ZTE back in business, and reinstate lost Chinese jobs.
The world is extremely confused. It's not clear why Trump wants to support Chinese jobs, given his past posturing against the country. Nor why he is ready to forgive a company for doing business with North Korea and Iran — especially having just imposed new sanctions on Iran.
Meanwhile, three days after the tweet, a Chinese developer announces the completion of a deal to build a new theme park with Trump brand licensing.
June 2018: Sayonara sanctions!
This takes us to the present. Secretary Ross traveled to Beijing for high-level trade talks during the first weekend of June. Days later, he announces the lifting of sanctions, and the new financial penalties. The fine is significant — ZTE's annual revenue is 108 billion in Chinese Yuan, which comes out to about 17 billion U.S. dollars. So a $1 billion fine is about six percent of its annual revenue.
https://mashable.com/2018/06/07/us-ends-zte-sanctions-trump/
:rollin
rube
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 05:27 PM
That article says he has plenty of assets to cover it.
This thread is about corrupt Joe tbh. I know you are playing your whataboutism game to shield him but I don't really plan entertaining it. The news covers everything about Trump. They are silent on corrupt Joe.
Who does Trump owe all that money to, and what favors is he doing for them to get a better deal on it?
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 05:28 PM
Joe Biden wasn’t Vice President in 2017. He was a private citizen. What illegal or corrupt activity are the MAGAtards saying he engaged in after he was out of office?
Crickets
Bogie
10-22-2020, 05:30 PM
That article says he has plenty of assets to cover it.
This thread is about corrupt Joe tbh. I know you are playing your whataboutism game to shield him but I don't really plan entertaining it. The news covers everything about Trump. They are silent on corrupt Joe.
you’re really really dumb.
but if they have the emails, why release just screenshots?
RandomGuy
10-22-2020, 05:35 PM
That article says he has plenty of assets to cover it.
This thread is about corrupt Joe tbh. I know you are playing your whataboutism game to shield him but I don't really plan entertaining it. The news covers everything about Trump. They are silent on corrupt Joe.
:jack This thread is itself a whataboutism deflecting from the fucking shitshow-cesspool-dumpsterfire of the Trump grifters (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=71&p=10304286&viewfull=1#post10304286) [click on link for handy reminder of what you are deflecting from].
Hypocrite much?
spurraider21
10-22-2020, 05:36 PM
It’s not even clear what Biden should be denying. MAGAtards have pivoted from the original Ukraine stuff to a Chinese venture in 2017, after he was Vice President.
could still conceivably be for influence as it relates to his future 2020 presidential run, but that sounds a lot more farfetched
spurraider21
10-22-2020, 05:37 PM
you’re really really dumb.
but if they have the emails, why release just screenshots?
because how else can they selectively decided what portions of what communications to release absent context?
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 05:42 PM
could still conceivably be for influence as it relates to his future 2020 presidential run, but that sounds a lot more farfetched
I know you’re just playing devils advocate but I’d not sure what’s illegal about doing a deal involving someone hoping that he’ll be president 4 years later.
Bogie
10-22-2020, 05:50 PM
because how else can they selectively decided what portions of what communications to release absent context?
other than the slobbering mongoloids like tsa, Nate, spurtacular, chris, etc. whose believing this stuff?
spurraider21
10-22-2020, 05:58 PM
I know you’re just playing devils advocate but I’d not sure what’s illegal about doing a deal involving someone hoping that he’ll be president 4 years later.
yeah, trying my best to steelman the argument... still doesnt come across as convincing
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 06:01 PM
:jack This thread is itself a whataboutism deflecting from the fucking shitshow-cesspool-dumpsterfire of the Trump grifters (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=71&p=10304286&viewfull=1#post10304286) [click on link for handy reminder of what you are deflecting from].
Hypocrite much?
It's not whataboutism to start a discussion directly on the topic of corrupt Joe and his family.
Nathan89
10-22-2020, 06:03 PM
https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1319399925625618433?s=20
Not a single dollar should be going towards this outlet.
Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 06:03 PM
:lol So far, registered Dems in Arizona have cast 120k more than registered Republicans (this is in a state where Republicans have a registration advantage), and ballots cast is already 50% of the total 2016 votes.
How much does the "only show screenshots so Biden has enough rope to hang himself" phase of HunterGate last? Rudy should really get around to the part where he dumps all the actual evidence on us.
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