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Winehole23
10-22-2020, 06:04 PM
The actual tale may be much more complex and interesting. Here’s how Taibbi, who, we must remember, spent many years in Russia and “knows their ways,” seems to have pieced it together.


After a long description (well worth reading) of various machinations by Burisma’s founder, a corrupt, former public official named Mykola Zlochevsky and a benefactor during the regime of ousted Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovich, Taibbi writes this:



To recap: an oligarch [Zlochevsky] whose company’s wealth was tied to embezzlement and graft was booted from power via revolution in February, 2014, causing his company’s assets to come under fire, both in Ukraine and abroad. With Zlochevsky’s former protector Viktor Yanukovich having fled Ukraine back to Russia, Burisma scrambled to shore up a new power base. Within six weeks of the revolution, the firm brought big names onto its board, including former Polish President Alexander Kwasniewski, Biden, and Devon Archer, pal to Hunter and the college roommate of Christopher Heinz, stepson to John Kerry (https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303851804579560542284706288). They would later add former CIA counter-terrorism chief Cofer Black (https://burisma-group.com/eng/director/joseph-cofer-black/). […]


Essentially, a mob enterprise gearing up to defend itself against international lawsuits and seizure orders hired as decorative cover an ex-president of Poland, the son of a sitting U.S. Vice President, and a close family friend and business partner of the son of the American Secretary of State — not exactly subtle, and far beyond nepotism.


The truth of these events, then, is more nuanced — less binary if not less damning — than the black-and-white lens we are offered to view them through:



The Burisma board deals were a protection scheme, funded with stolen money and designed to scare off commercial rivals and would-be regulators alike. Archer and Hunter Biden, even if they never did a minute of work for Burisma, were being paid to provide a criminal enterprise with the appearance of American protection. Similarly, if Joe Biden never actually intervened on behalf of Burisma, Hunter’s presence on Burisma’s board made it possible for anyone to argue that he was.


At best, Biden and Archer were put on Burisma’s board to provide Zlochevsky and Burisma protection against their enemies in the new, unfriendly-to-Zlochevsky Ukrainian government. Whether Biden and Archer knew this or not — and how could they not know? what could this free money otherwise be for? — it corrupted them both to take those jobs.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/10/can-hunter-biden-be-both-right-and-wrong-both-innocent-and-guilty-yes-he-can.html

Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 06:04 PM
https://twitter.com/RepGosar/status/1319399925625618433?s=20

Not a single dollar should be going towards this outlet.
:lmao Paul Gosar. The guy who's siblings endorsed his opponent in 2018.

Nathan89
10-22-2020, 06:07 PM
:lmao Paul Gosar. The guy who's siblings endorsed his opponent in 2018.

That means nothing to me.

Winehole23
10-22-2020, 06:07 PM
NPR has been on the black list for 40 years. Get yer licks in, Paul Gosar.

Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 06:08 PM
:lol Nathan is this guy a friend of yours?

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ChumpDumper
10-22-2020, 06:13 PM
That means nothing to me.What is NPR supposed to be reporting?

Be specific.

Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 06:13 PM
What is NPR supposed to be reporting?

Be specific.
EMAILS.....ERRR....SCREENSHOTS OF EMAILS!!!

ChumpDumper
10-22-2020, 06:14 PM
:lol Nathan is this guy a friend of yours?

1319396893017997314Nathan's failed ideology.

CosmicCowboy
10-22-2020, 06:21 PM
Hmmmm. Bobulinski has confirmed the China deal from those "screen shots" was real. . Confirms Papa Biden was the 10% "big guy".

ChumpDumper
10-22-2020, 06:24 PM
Oh shit, CC's gonna vote for Trump now.

:lol "screen shots" in quotes

Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 06:27 PM
:lol are we talking about this Bobulinski?

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Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 06:31 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to articulate what Biden did in 2017 that was illegal or corrupt?

Bogie
10-22-2020, 06:33 PM
Oh shit, CC's gonna vote for Trump now.

:lol "screen shots" in quotes

he’s not honest, and makes things up? No way

Reck
10-22-2020, 06:34 PM
Hmmmm. Bobulinski has confirmed the China deal from those "screen shots" was real. . Confirms Papa Biden was the 10% "big guy".

So basically all you need is a say so with no proof? Ok then

Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 06:39 PM
So basically all you need is a say so with no proof? Ok then
A say so from somebody who had nothing to say on this matter until he had a $635k judgment against him :lol

Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 06:56 PM
:lmao:lmao

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hater
10-22-2020, 07:04 PM
Nathan's failed ideology.

:lmao dat haircut

I dont know whats worse. 4 more years of trump or looking at that haircut again :lmao

ChumpDumper
10-22-2020, 07:08 PM
:lmao:lmao

1319395897843863553:lmao C:madrunNFIRMED

Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 07:10 PM
:lmao C:madrunNFIRMED
:lmao just noticed the phone also has the European 24 hour clock (it shows 18:01 at the top of the screen)

Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 07:18 PM
Biden campaign official statement

:cry he hasn't denied anything :cry

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-campaign-response-tony-bobulinski-hunter-overseas-business-china


"As Chris Wallace said on the air about this very smear, 'Vice President Biden has actually released his tax returns - unlike President Trump - and there is no indication he ever got any money from anybody in these business deals,’” Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement to Fox News. “Joe Biden has never even considered being involved in business with his family, nor in any overseas business whatsoever. He has never held stock in any such business arrangements nor has any family member or any other person ever held stock for him.”


“What is true is that Tony Bobulinski admitted on the record to Breitbart that he is angry he was *not* able to go into business with Hunter and James Biden,” Bates added. “What is also true is that in contrast to Vice President Biden, Donald Trump has a secret Chinese bank account and pays more in taxes in China than he pays in federal income taxes in the United States -- and that this is a desperate, pathetic farce executed by a flailing campaign with no rationale for putting our country through another four years of hell."

vy65
10-22-2020, 07:19 PM
:lmao:lmao

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WHAT'S YOUR CONSPIRACY THEORY HERE???!?!?!?!

Trill Clinton
10-22-2020, 07:21 PM
:lmao:lmao

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Wow lol

CosmicCowboy
10-22-2020, 07:26 PM
Oh shit, CC's gonna vote for Trump now.

:lol "screen shots" in quotes

Nope

Nathan89
10-22-2020, 07:27 PM
Biden finally refuted and is acting like Trump who got censored by China in the first debate is entangled with them. It's a solid strategy to fool the unaware tbh.

Nathan89
10-22-2020, 07:30 PM
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1319431164722020353?s=20

Nathan89
10-22-2020, 07:34 PM
https://twitter.com/WarRoomPandemic/status/1319407926927294467?s=20

Ef-man
10-22-2020, 07:36 PM
:lmao:lmao

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TSA, still insist this is not disinformation?

:tu

Trill Clinton
10-22-2020, 07:36 PM
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Ouch

RD2191
10-22-2020, 07:37 PM
:lmao:lmao

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:rollin

RD2191
10-22-2020, 07:44 PM
These fools are desperate. :rollin

ElNono
10-22-2020, 07:55 PM
It would be a full time job refuting each and every retarded right wing conspiracy theory. The “well he didn’t deny it so it must be true!” standard of proof is confirmation bias from MAGAtards who are butthurt that their conspiracy theories haven’t impacted Biden’s campaign.

:cry stop Will, it hurts

ChumpDumper
10-22-2020, 08:02 PM
:lol one of his later replies:

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ElNono
10-22-2020, 08:02 PM
:lmao:lmao

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lmao rudy...

Blake
10-22-2020, 08:36 PM
Nope

A non vote for Biden in Texas is a vote for Trump, tbh

ElNono
10-22-2020, 09:56 PM
welp... Joe was so flustered with the laptop story and getting 20 miles of rope, he apparently brought up the whole laptop-drama himself on the debate :lol

Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 09:57 PM
welp... Joe was so flustered with the laptop story and getting 20 miles of rope, he apparently brought up the whole laptop-drama himself on the debate :lol
:lmao Trump had no idea how to handle Biden flanking him on Huntergate

Winehole23
10-22-2020, 10:24 PM
what's with the really dark bronzer? is Trump getting darker or is it just my imagination?

FrostKing
10-22-2020, 10:39 PM
what's with the really dark bronzer? is Trump getting darker or is it just my imagination?
Colored people can't be racist

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Will Hunting
10-22-2020, 10:45 PM
:lol another L for the MAGAtards

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Winehole23
10-22-2020, 11:00 PM
Colored people can't be racist Says you.

Do you think the heavy application of bronzer makes DJT a POC and therefore immune to accusations of racism?

:lol

Winehole23
10-22-2020, 11:02 PM
like flashy sparkles on the water

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Winehole23
10-22-2020, 11:06 PM
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TSA
10-23-2020, 01:57 AM
welp... Joe was so flustered with the laptop story and getting 20 miles of rope, he apparently brought up the whole laptop-drama himself on the debate :lol

He brought it up and was forced to blame it all on muh Russia :lmao

ElNono
10-23-2020, 02:25 AM
He brought it up and was forced to blame it all on muh Russia :lmao

lol forced.

what do you think though? He needs more rope?

Chris
10-23-2020, 02:36 AM
Joe Biden wasn’t Vice President in 2017. He was a private citizen. What illegal or corrupt activity are the MAGAtards saying he engaged in after he was out of office?

Burisma was in 2015.

https://www.congress.gov/105/plaws/publ366/PLAW-105publ366.htm

Concerning 2017:


While VP, Biden illegally sold influence to his office to foreign nations, corporations, and US domestic corporations by using Hunter as a go-between whereby all financial and equity proceeds earmarked for Joe would be held by Hunter Biden on Joe's behalf until at least January 2017 when Biden was no longer VP.

There is also a possibillity that he is compromised (blackmail) and could be controlled by foreign governments (China) and would be unable to function as POTUS.


Saavy?

ElNono
10-23-2020, 02:53 AM
Burisma was in 2015.

https://www.congress.gov/105/plaws/publ366/PLAW-105publ366.htm

Concerning 2017:


While VP, Biden illegally sold influence to his office to foreign nations, corporations, and US domestic corporations by using Hunter as a go-between whereby all financial and equity proceeds earmarked for Joe would be held by Hunter Biden on Joe's behalf until at least January 2017 when Biden was no longer VP.

There is also a possibillity that he is compromised (blackmail) and could be controlled by foreign governments (China) and would be unable to function as POTUS.


Saavy?


You'd love for that to be true poor fella :lol

Winehole23
10-23-2020, 08:21 AM
Funny, Kim Strassel and the WSJ opinion page had a distinctly different take on the same material

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Blake
10-23-2020, 08:25 AM
Burisma was in 2015.

https://www.congress.gov/105/plaws/publ366/PLAW-105publ366.htm

Concerning 2017:


While VP, Biden illegally sold influence to his office to foreign nations, corporations, and US domestic corporations by using Hunter as a go-between whereby all financial and equity proceeds earmarked for Joe would be held by Hunter Biden on Joe's behalf until at least January 2017 when Biden was no longer VP.

There is also a possibillity that he is compromised (blackmail) and could be controlled by foreign governments (China) and would be unable to function as POTUS.


Saavy?

Lol "possibility"

RandomGuy
10-23-2020, 09:00 AM
It's not whataboutism to start a discussion directly on the topic of corrupt Joe and his family.

:jack This thread is itself a whataboutism deflecting from the fucking shitshow-cesspool-dumpsterfire of the Trump grifters (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=71&p=10304286&viewfull=1#post10304286) [click on link for handy reminder of what you are deflecting from].

Hypocrite much?

Why don't you want to admit that the shitshow-cesspool-dumpster fire of Trump corruption exists?

RandomGuy
10-23-2020, 09:03 AM
While VP, Biden illegally sold influence to his office to foreign nations, corporations, and US domestic corporations by using Hunter as a go-between

:sleep:sleep:sleep:sleep


Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalex.../#68f3536b4330

Who does Trump owe the money to?


Reports of Trump's secret Chinese bank account spark controversy
There's a lot to unpack in the new reporting, but it's probably worth dwelling on Trump's previously undisclosed bank account in China.
https://www.nbcnews.com/rachel-maddo...versy-n1244186


Whistleblower says Ivanka, Jared got security clearance over experts' advice
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1RD2HU


https://time.com/4578431/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interest-list/
2. Foreign Interests

More than 100 Trump companies have done business in 18 countries. One extraordinary conflict of interest is an effort by eight mysterious Trump companies established on the eve of Trump’s campaign to develop luxury real estate projects in Saudi Arabia—a country that Trump explicitly said he hopes to protect as president.

It’s also clear that Trump may not be shy about mixing and matching official White House duties with those involving foreign business interests. Just last week, Trump met with three Indian business partners at Trump Tower to discuss a luxury apartment complex they’re developing together near Mumbai, the New York Times reported. For this meeting, at least, there was no apparent effort to separate his business dealings from his work as the President-elect, though a spokeswoman for the Trump organization described it as nothing more than a courtesy visit rather than a business meeting. Those Indian executives, however, have told Indian newspapers that they had been discussing the possibility of expanding their business deals with the Trump organization now that he was the President-elect, the Times reported.

Regardless of whether any sorts of business partnership expansions were discussed, legal experts say that such meetings alone raise conflict of interest questions for Trump because there is at least the appearance that he could be using the White House to advance his own business interests. Ivanka Trump joined a Trump White House transition team meeting with Japan’s leader, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, last week, which prompted even more questions about how closely aligned Trump’s business interests will be with affairs of state.


3. Family Matters

Relatives and family members who are currently making important decisions about what a Trump administration will look like will come under intense media scrutiny—especially for those who choose to work in the White House or take on official advisory council posts. Trump’s closest advisors have said in recent weeks that they would like to see his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, become a senior White House official, reflecting his clear and obvious role in major decisions the President-elect has made since the election.

Kushner, for instance, has been widely credited with the decision to replace Gov. Chris Christie as the head of the Trump transition efforts. There is, however, a large, potential conflict of interest looming. After former President John F. Kennedy made his brother, Robert, the attorney general, Congress passed an anti-nepotism law. That 1967 law is still on the books, and there isn’t an easy way around it—even if Kushner chooses not to take a salary as a senior White House official. It bans public officials, especially presidents, from hiring their relatives for jobs in federal agencies and Cabinet posts.

Trump advisors, however, believe the anti-nepotism law doesn’t apply to the White House—a conflict that could be tested early in Trump’s presidency if he allows his son-in-law to operate out of the West Wing. “This falls right in the bull’s eye of the statute. I think it’s illegal,” Norm Eisen, who was President Obama’s chief ethics counsel, told Politico. Other legal experts, though, feel Kushner can serve as an unpaid advisor in the White House.

Republicans, likewise, don’t see any conflicts at all in Trump’s family members managing the national government. “For goodness sake, JFK put his brother over at the Justice Department. It’s not like these things are new and unprecedented,” Rep. Tom Cole said. And if Trump wants to give Kushner or his daughter, Ivanka Trump, access to intelligence briefings, he could appoint them to White House councils like the intelligence advisory board without any oversight from Congress or intelligence agencies providing classified briefings.

https://time.com/4578431/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interest-list/


5. Lending, Financial Institutions and Economic Policy

And, in the U.S., economic and monetary policy discussions at a Trump White House will have a direct impact on federal institutions like Treasury, the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Service—all of which impact, audit or affect both his domestic and international business interests. The question of whether Trump is taking his own business interests into White House consideration on financial and economic policy considerations is one that critics and others are almost certain to raise repeatedly during his presidency.


40 Wall Street
40 Wall street
The Trump Organization owns the right to lease the space in this office building in Manhattan - and makes money from the rent paid to the building.

According to Bloomberg News, there are five ongoing federal investigations into current or former tenants of 40 Wall Street, mostly for securities fraud.

Those investigations are headed up by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).

Mr Trump's appointee to head the SEC, Jay Clayton, has been criticised for his ties to Wall Street firms by Democrats during his confirmation hearings.


Dakota Access Pipeline
Native Americans march to the site of a sacred burial ground that was disturbed by bulldozers building the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL), near the encampment where hundreds of people have gathered to join the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe's protest of the oil pipeline slated to cross the nearby Missouri River, September 4, 2016 near Cannon Ball, North Dakota

It's unclear if the president has also sold his stock in Phillips 66, as his last financial disclosure was in May 2016.

Update:

On 24 January, Mr Trump signed an executive order paving the way for final construction of the pipeline. ETP began work in early February and oil is expected to flow by early April. The pipeline remains the subject of a lawsuit by the Cheyenne River Sioux.


Deutsche Bank
One of Trump's major lenders on his real estate projects is Deutsche Bank.

The bank is currently in negotiations with the US justice department to settle a case involving misleading buyers when it sold mortgage bonds backed by risky loans.

Update: Deutsche Bank settled the mortgage bonds case for $7.2bn in late December 2016.


The FCC
The president has another job title beyond "commander-in-chief": executive producer. He will continue to have a "big stake" in The Celebrity Apprentice, which airs on NBC, linking Mr Trump's business interests with the network.

NBC and its parent company, Comcast, is regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). Mr Trump's pick for the chairman, Ajit Pai, will be need to be reconfirmed by the Senate this year, in order to continue on at the commission.


National Labor Relations Board
On 3 November, the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) ruled that Trump International Hotel Las Vegas - which Trump co-owns - broke the law by refusing to negotiate with a hotel workers' union.

The hotel appealed the case to a higher court. But three other labour disputes involving the Las Vegas hotel are currently before the board, as well as several others involving the Trump Organization.

NLRB is facing an unprecedented situation on how to rule on disputes that will affect the president's business. Mr Trump has named current board member Philip Miscimarra as acting chair and will be able to appoint two new members to vacant spots.


Secret Service
Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump departs in his plane after rallying with supporters in a cargo hangar at Minneapolis Saint Paul International Airport in Minneapolis, Minnesota, U.S. November 6, 2016

During the campaign, Trump's airplane company, TAG Air, billed the Secret Service for flying on Trump's Boeing 757 while protecting the candidate. It is standard for Secret Service to pay their own way on private aircraft, and during the campaign, this was tracked by the Federal Election Commission through campaign finance reports.

Secret Service has also paid to protect Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr, as members of the president's family - even as they travel to take care of business for the Trump Organization.


Stocks
Jason Miller, the transition team's spokesman, has said the president sold all his stocks in June 2016, a month after the required financial disclosure, but the campaign did not furnish proof nor provide an updated list of Mr Trump's investments.

Since his election, Mr Trump has singled out specific companies for criticism on Twitter, causing price swings on the stock market. If Mr Trump still owns these stocks, he could make money off of selling and buying before and after such tweets.


Foreign holdings
According to Trump's financial disclosure, as of mid-2016, he had investments in or owned companies in at least 20 countries. Unlike his domestic business, Mr Trump could run afoul of a clause in the US constitution by continuing to profit from these deals.

The emoluments clause specifically prevents anyone who holds a US "office of trust or profit" from accepting gifts, payments or any benefit from a foreign nation.

Even routine business benefits like tax breaks could violate the emoluments clause.

One former White House ethics lawyer has argued Mr Trump would be violation of the constitution "on day one".

In addition to emoluments, Mr Trump's foreign policy decisions could be called into question in any country in which the Trump Organization does business, especially when his policies would benefit the firm's holdings overseas.Here are some of Mr Trump's larger business deals that intersect with US foreign policy.

BBC Monitoring contributed to this report



Argentina
An Argentine broadcaster reported that Mr Trump allegedly asked President Mauricio Macri for his support to build an office tower in Buenos Aires while on call during Mr Trump's transition period.

Mr Macri's office and the Trump campaign have denied the report.

However, several days later, the Buenos Aires firm building the tower announced construction of the project was going ahead after years of delays.


Brazil
A waterfront property in Rio de Janeiro, branded with the Trump name through a licensing deal, is the subject of a federal inquiry after two small Brazilian pension funds invested heavily in the unfinished project, with allegations of bribery.

Update: The Trump Organization has reportedly cancelled their licensing deal with the developers in Rio. Trump lawyer Alan Garten told the AP in December this and a few other cancellations were "normal housekeeping" and not part of a strategy to reduce potential conflicts of interests.



Canada
The Trump Organization has licensing deals with two hotel towers in Canada - one in Toronto and one in Vancouver.

The Vancouver building is now open, with a ribbon-cutting ceremony attended by the Trump sons, but the Toronto tower is up for auction after the developer went bankrupt and was put into receivership by a Canadian judge in November.


China
The Bank of China is one of China's largest banks and also majority state-owned. It holds the title on a $950m loan for a New York Building in which Trump is a part owner. Mr Trump has previously labelled China a currency manipulator.

Another largely government-owned Chinese bank - the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China - has space in Trump Tower, paying rent to the Trump Organization.

The Trump Organization has also previously attempted to open a series of hotels in the country, and Trump Hotels chief executive Eric Danziger told a Hong Kong media outlet in October they wanted to open 20 to 30 hotels in the country in 2017.
Meanwhile, Trump's son-in-law and now senior adviser, Jared Kushner, was negotiating a deal with China's Anbang Insurance Group to redevelop 666 Fifth Avenue in New York City before backing out of talks in late March.

Mr Kushner has been given a senior role inside the White House. His lawyer told the New York Times he "would recuse from particular matters that would have a direct and predictable effect on his remaining financial interests" without giving specifics.

Ivanka Trump, who has her own non-paying position at the White House, has advised her father on a broad number of policy areas, including high-profile foreign policy meetings.

On the same day she sat next to Chinese President at a dinner at Mar-a-Lago, the Chinese government approved three new trademarks for Ms Trump's firm to sell items in China.

While Ms Trump has moved her firm to a trust and said she will not partake in decisions could led to conflicts, ethics experts are concerned with the broadening scope of both her business, which bears her name, and her advisory role at the White House.



Dominican Republic
Despite a promise to do "no new deals" while Mr Trump is in office, the Trump Organization is testing that definition in the Dominican Republic.

The firm with developers of a beachfront planned community but the project stalled, and Trump sued in 2012 for unpaid licencing fees.

After a settlement of that lawsuit, the developments did not use the Trump name or discuss any involvement with the Trump Organization.

But in February, owners made a show of announcing Eric Trump had toured the project, saying "we are excited to be working with the Trump Organization in the future phases of the project".

A Trump Organization lawyer has described the deal as "never dead" and said discussions were "very preliminary" but some investors were surprised to find the firm was still technically involved in the project.



Georgia
The Trump Organization cancelled a licensing deal to build a condo tower in the resort town of Batumi, Georgia, shortly after Mr Trump won the election.

The deal had been originally inked in 2011 but stalled amid slow growth in the country.

One of the business partners involved in the deal told Forbes the firm had expressly told him the reason the deal was cancelled was concerns over the Emoluments Clause, despite a Trump lawyer's earlier statement the cancellation was "not part of a strategy to reduce potential conflicts of interests".


ndia
Trump has a licensing deal for buildings in Mumbai and Pune.

One of his deals is with the Lodha Group, whose founder, Mangal Lodha, is also a vice-president in the ruling government party, BJP.Shortly after Mr Trump won the presidency, some of his Indian business partners flew to the US to congratulate Mr Trump, who took time out of transition meetings to discuss "US-India relations".

Indonesia
Two building projects with Trump licensing and management deals have not begun construction in earnest but the Trump Organization continues to be part of the venture.

Mr Trump's partner on the resort projects is Hary Tanoesoedibjo, who ran for vice-president and is well-connected politically in Indonesia. Mr Hary is forming a political party in anticipation of the 2019 elections, the New York Times reports.

In addition, one of Trump's advisers, Carl Icahn, is a major shareholder of Freeport, which is looking to extend a mining contract with the Indonesia government.

Japan
Ivanka Trump sat in with a meeting with her father and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. Ms Trump's own firm is currently finalising a licensing deal with Japanese clothing company Sanei International, although she has now stepped down from the firm as well as the Trump Organization.

The firm's largest shareholder is the Japanese government through the Development Bank of Japan. Ms Trump's company says the deal has been in the works for a while, and the terms were agreed before the election.

Philippines
Philippines' newest trade envoy to the United States is the same man who is building Trump Tower Manila. Like many of Trump's branding projects, Mr Trump does not own the building himself, but licenses his name to the building in return for regular payments.

Trump family members have previously promoted the project, including a promotional video.

The trade envoy/business partner reportedly flew to US to hold a private meeting with Mr Trump after the election.

Saudi Arabia
During the course of the campaign, Trump created eight business ventures tied to a potential real estate deal in Saudi Arabia.

Mr Trump told Fox News earlier this year, he "would want to protect Saudi Arabia. But Saudi Arabia is going to have to help us economically".

Update: A Trump Organization lawyer has told the AP the eight firms have been dissolved or shut and that there is "no deal" in Saudi Arabia. However, the firm could easily re-establish business ties there.


Taiwan
In September, a woman claiming to be an envoy for the Trump Organization discussed potential real estate developments in Taiwan with the mayor of Taoyuan.

The Trump Organization has denied any plans for expansion there and said there were no "authorised visits" to discuss business in the country. The Taoyan mayor's office said the woman had "authorisation documents" but did not specify what kind, the New York Times reported.

A month after his election, Trump called the president of Taiwan directly, breaking decades of existing US foreign policy. It still unclear if the woman is connected with the Trump Organization

Turkey

In 2008, Trump entered a licensing partnership with Turkish conglomerate Dogan Holdings, who were planning to build two residential and business towers in Istanbul's business district.

Relations between Dogan Holdings and Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan have turned sour since the towers opened in 2012.

The Dogan family, also own a paper critical of Mr Erdogan.

An earlier story from Newsweek argues the poisoned relationship between Mr Erdogan and the Dogans means Mr Trump would have a direct conflict between his business interests and his relationship with a US ally.

Turkey's importance in the fight against IS and the Syrian civil war makes the stakes much higher.


UK golf courses
Presumptive Republican nominee for US president Donald Trump visits Trump International Golf Links on June 25, 2016 in Aberdeen, Scotland.

Mr Trump owns two golf courses in Scotland and has recently asked Nigel Farage to oppose wind farms, not because he believed they were bad for the UK or contradicted US energy goals, but because a wind project would potentially lower the value of one of his golf courses.

"He did not say he hated wind farms as a concept; he just did not like them spoiling the views," Andy Wigmore, the Leave.EU communications director at the meeting told the New York Times and the Express.

The golf courses could also be affected as part of Brexit negotiations or a second Scottish independence referendum.

https://www.wsj.com/graphics/donald-trump-potential-conflicts-of-interest/
Trump, His Children, and 500+ Potential Conflicts of Interest
President-elect Donald Trump's complex holdings place him in an unprecedented position


Trump has amassed 3,000 conflicts of interest since taking office
Government watchdog CREW revealed that the president racks up the equivalent of two conflicts of interest per day

https://www.salon.com/2020/03/01/trump-has-amassed-3000-conflicts-of-interest-since-taking-office/

RandomGuy
10-23-2020, 09:05 AM
:lmao:lmao

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:lmao

RandomGuy
10-23-2020, 09:08 AM
He brought it up and was forced to blame it all on muh Russia :lmao

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so does trump employing his family in powerful positions and them profiting in their personal businesses because of it bother you? yes or no. if not then shut the fuck up


I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.


A detailed report on Trumps family with dozens of scandals and thousands of conflicts of interest (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=66&p=10304021&viewfull=1#post10304021)



[hunter biden's "laptop" is really important]


:rollin

TSA
10-23-2020, 09:12 AM
:jack This thread is itself a whataboutism deflecting from the fucking shitshow-cesspool-dumpsterfire of the Trump grifters (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=71&p=10304286&viewfull=1#post10304286) [click on link for handy reminder of what you are deflecting from].

Hypocrite much?

Why don't you want to admit that the shitshow-cesspool-dumpster fire of Trump corruption exists?

You are in a thread discussing Biden corruption and have done nothing but try and bring up Trump corruption to deflect from the Biden's. Clear cut whataboutism.

I command you to melt down and spam the thread with your whataboutism deflections again you pathetic fucker.

TSA
10-23-2020, 09:13 AM
lol forced.

what do you think though? He needs more rope?

Biden straight up lied about it being Russian disinformation. He hung himself.

Bogie
10-23-2020, 09:13 AM
You are in a thread discussing Biden corruption and have done nothing but try and bring up Trump corruption to deflect from the Biden's. Clear cut whataboutism.

I command you to melt down and spam the thread with your whataboutism deflections again you pathetic fucker.

you’ve been abused like derp and chris in your attempts to try to show you aren’t a hypocritical lying sack of shit.

Now you’re trying to act tough after he has already penetrated you and made you his bitch.

RandomGuy
10-23-2020, 09:17 AM
You are in a thread discussing Biden corruption and have done nothing but try and bring up Trump corruption to deflect from the Biden's. Clear cut whataboutism.

I command you to melt down and spam the thread with your whataboutism deflections again you pathetic fucker.

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so does trump employing his family in powerful positions and them profiting in their personal businesses because of it bother you? yes or no. if not then shut the fuck up


I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.


A detailed report on Trumps family with dozens of scandals and thousands of conflicts of interest (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=66&p=10304021&viewfull=1#post10304021)



[hunter biden's "laptop" is really important]


:rollin :lol :lmao

https://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/590/marker_pwned.jpg

TSA
10-23-2020, 09:19 AM
you’ve been abused like derp and chris in your attempts to try to show you aren’t a hypocritical lying sack of shit.

Now you’re trying to act tough after he has already penetrated you and made you his bitch.

:lol fantasizing about prison rape

TSA
10-23-2020, 09:20 AM
:lol RG following my commands

RandomGuy
10-23-2020, 09:22 AM
:lol RG following my commands

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so does trump employing his family in powerful positions and them profiting in their personal businesses because of it bother you? yes or no. if not then shut the fuck up


I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.


A detailed report on Trumps family with dozens of scandals and thousands of conflicts of interest (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=66&p=10304021&viewfull=1#post10304021)



[hunter biden's "laptop" is really important]


:rollin :lol :lmao

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/12/wrestling_pwned.jpg

RandomGuy
10-23-2020, 09:24 AM
Your pathetic attempts at reverse psychology to keep me from shoving your nose in the shit-pile of your rank hypocrisy are noted. :lol

TSA
10-23-2020, 09:34 AM
Your pathetic attempts at reverse psychology to keep me from shoving your nose in the shit-pile of your rank hypocrisy are noted. :lol

Reverse psychology? I'm literally commanding you to melt down and you obey :lol

RandomGuy
10-23-2020, 09:39 AM
Reverse psychology? I'm literally commanding you to melt down and you obey :lol

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so does trump employing his family in powerful positions and them profiting in their personal businesses because of it bother you? yes or no. if not then shut the fuck up


I'll need a detailed report on Trump's family just like the one I provided you. Read the one I linked and then provide a similar one on Trump and then we can discuss. If you refuse to read the link then shut the fuck up.


A detailed report on Trumps family with dozens of scandals and thousands of conflicts of interest (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287448&page=66&p=10304021&viewfull=1#post10304021)



[hunter biden's "laptop" is really important]


:rollin :lol :lmao

https://files-cdn.sharenator.com/pwned-PWNED-s512x384-77274-1020.jpg

JPB
10-23-2020, 10:28 AM
:lol are we talking about this Bobulinski?

1319394902883565568

1319367580935704583


:lmao:lmao

1319395897843863553

This has to be the worst plot in history of elections :lol

Looks like it was just made by a bunch of amateurs who just googled "plots for dummies".

Cherry on the cake is jaking off Giuliani. Can't wait for the memes :lol

RandomGuy
10-23-2020, 10:31 AM
This honestly has to be the worst plot in history of elections :lol.

Looks like i was made by a bunch of amateurs who just googled "plots for dummies".

Cherry on the cake is jaking off Giuliani. Can't wait for the memes :lol

Bannon trying to re-create his 2016 hits.

It is like some marginally talented one-hit wonder trying to do a follow up that never is quite as good as the original hit.

Chris
10-23-2020, 11:22 AM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1319655882729422848?s=19

Spurminator
10-23-2020, 11:53 AM
Today marks the exact number of days before the election (11) that Comey's letter was sent to Congress in 2016.

Of course, far more votes have been cast up to this point this year than in 2016.

Either way, you guys are about to be way past the deadline for this to have any impact on the election. Better hope something YUGE comes out today...

Tick tock! Tick tock!

Nathan89
10-23-2020, 12:16 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1319667407527530496?s=20

The left ran a big smear campaign about Rudy to distract from Biden and Hunter.

Leetonidas
10-23-2020, 12:16 PM
Semen shielding for Rudy :lmao

Nathan89
10-23-2020, 12:18 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1319452818588209154?s=20

Leetonidas
10-23-2020, 12:19 PM
Desperately grasping at straws :lmao

Spurminator
10-23-2020, 12:22 PM
The left ran a big smear campaign about Rudy to distract from Biden and Hunter.

This was filmed months ago and has been scheduled for release today since well before the Hunter Biden nothingburger.

You're grasping at straws. But hey, they could always release the incriminating emails and get the news cycle back. Tick tock!

Chris
10-23-2020, 12:25 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1319667407527530496?s=20

The left ran a big smear campaign about Rudy to distract from Biden and Hunter.

They had to attack Rudy's credibility because the evidence can't be refuted. This is how the Left operates and NPCs are more than happy to carry their water.

Leetonidas
10-23-2020, 12:28 PM
This was filmed months ago and has been scheduled for release today since well before the Hunter Biden nothingburger.

You're grasping at straws. But hey, they could always release the incriminating emails and get the news cycle back. Tick tock!

Right. :lol literally pointing out Rudy got caught with his hands in his pants in a Borat movie is not a "smear campaign" its literally what happened :lol

Blake
10-23-2020, 12:34 PM
They had to attack Rudy's credibility because the evidence can't be refuted. This is how the Left operates and NPCs are more than happy to carry their water.

Says npcbot that carries Kirstie Alleys water

RandomGuy
10-23-2020, 02:05 PM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1319667407527530496?s=20

The left ran a big smear campaign about Rudy to distract from Biden and Hunter.

:cry Why are they doing a Project Veritas on us :cry

Cry harder.

koriwhat
10-23-2020, 02:40 PM
what are your thoughts on the Trump children and Jared making deals all over the world as representatives of the US government, Joey? I’m actually really curious to hear your thoughts on that one.

that's fucked up if true. i know they all have their businesses and whatnot but i have not seen articles here or elsewhere about jared and ivanka running their businesses while in office. if they're out there i just haven't seen them.

as for the other kids of djt, well they aren't in office and can run as many businesses as they'd like.

then there's biden kid who wasn't running businesses but selling out his last name in order to line his and the big guy's pockets. go figure you'd stand behind them and their clandestine ways.

koriwhat
10-23-2020, 02:43 PM
Right. :lol literally pointing out Rudy got caught with his hands in his pants in a Borat movie is not a "smear campaign" its literally what happened :lol

have you seen the whole video yet? this whole rudy/borat thing is hilariously hyperbolic.

ElNono
10-23-2020, 03:09 PM
Biden straight up lied about it being Russian disinformation. He hung himself.

:lol If only we applied the same standard to Dennison... he'll hung himself 100 times over already.

So what happens now? You let Rudy keep fucking this up?

ElNono
10-23-2020, 03:10 PM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1319655882729422848?s=19

:tu

Trainwreck2100
10-23-2020, 03:13 PM
Gulliani shouldn't have played the I was fucking in my shirt card he should have played the "I knew it was a movie" card

boutons_deux
10-23-2020, 05:51 PM
Rudy Giuliani Knew The Fake Hunter Biden Emails Weren’t Credible

Rudy Giuliani, the personal attorney for President Donald Trump, was approached by

someone offering allegedly compromising emails and images belonging to Hunter Biden in spring 2019,

The content included emails, as well as allegedly salacious video.

The offer was declined,

one of the individuals said, amid credibility questions.

Ex-intelligence officials (https://www.politicususa.com/2020/10/20/50-former-national-intelligence-officials-warn-ny-posts-hunter-biden-show-signs-of-russian-disinformation-campaigntory.html)say that “emails” have the hallmarks of a Russian intelligence operation.

Rudy Giuliani has never said where he got the emails.

It is likely that desperate and Donald Trump made Giuliani change his mind.

Rudy Giuliani should face criminal charges for his activities

if from a legitimate attorney general in a future administration because what he has done should never be allowed to happen again.

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/10/23/giuliani-hunter-biden-emails-not-credible.html

Spurs Homer
10-23-2020, 06:17 PM
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol


I told that idiot TSA - on day one -

this is all russian disinformation

what a GULLIBLE SAP!

koriwhat
10-23-2020, 06:28 PM
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol


I told that idiot TSA - on day one -

this is all russian disinformation

what a GULLIBLE SAP!

lmao you're a notch above the onion but not quite on the babylon bee's level. you're such a loon mr maddow! :tu

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 11:26 AM
A Wall Street Journal columnist said Joe Biden was part of Hunter’s business deal. Hours later, its news reporters said the opposite.

Columnist Kimberley Strassel (asserted that Biden was involved in a deal arranged by his son Hunter with a Chinese energy conglomerate in 2017) relied on the account of Hunter Biden’s former business partner, Tony Bobulinski, who provided documents that “suggest Hunter was cashing in on the Biden name and that Joe Biden was involved.”

But a few hours after Strassel’s column was published, the Journal’s news side offered a much different take.

“The venture . . . never received proposed funds from the Chinese company or completed any deals, according to people familiar with the matter,” Journal reporters Andrew Duehren and James Areddy wrote. “Corporate records reviewed by the Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden.” The reporters also quoted another partner in the venture, James Gilliar, who said he was “unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former vice president.”



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-wall-street-journal-columnist-said-joe-biden-was-part-of-hunter-s-business-deal-hours-later-its-news-reporters-said-the-opposite/ar-BB1akTux?ocid=msedgntp

Spurminator
10-24-2020, 11:30 AM
Today marks the exact number of days before the election (11) that Comey's letter was sent to Congress in 2016.

Of course, far more votes have been cast up to this point this year than in 2016.

Either way, you guys are about to be way past the deadline for this to have any impact on the election. Better hope something YUGE comes out today...

Tick tock! Tick tock!

We are now at Comey - 1, and big news rarely breaks on weekends.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 11:33 AM
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1319667407527530496?s=20

The left ran a big smear campaign about Rudy to distract from Biden and Hunter.

You're over-defending it. Have a Chumpette tell you what the real scandal here is. They got nothing.

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 11:40 AM
Scene proved Giuliani is so to manipulate and it is easy to see what he wanted from the girl.

But wait, there is more, derp is still an eager sperm shield.

So much for Rudy's and derp's honest brokers shtick.
:lol

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 11:51 AM
We are now at Comey - 1, and big news rarely breaks on weekends.
The country is already at 40% of total 2016 turnout, and that doesn't include New York or mail ballots that haven't been processed yet. We're probably closer to 50% as a real time when all of those are factored in.

At this time 4 years ago, every news source in the country was shouting ButHerEmails. Instead, swing state newspapers have front pages about how we're about to get demolished by COVID :lol

1320019856691965953

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 11:54 AM
:lmao even Fox News is now saying records don't show any involvement by Joe Biden

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-tony-bobulinski-joe-biden-unanswered-questions

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 11:58 AM
:lmao even Fox News is now saying records don't show any involvement by Joe Biden

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-tony-bobulinski-joe-biden-unanswered-questionsJust giving Joe another weekend of early voting rope to hang himself! Verification pending! Tick-tock!

Reck
10-24-2020, 11:58 AM
:lmao even Fox News is now saying records don't show any involvement by Joe Biden

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-tony-bobulinski-joe-biden-unanswered-questions

Notice how TSA has abandoned this thread already in favor of "look how awesome muh republicans are doing in Florida."

:lmao

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 12:00 PM
:lol TSA gave the bold take that Texas is going for Trump.

TSA
10-24-2020, 12:06 PM
:lmao even Fox News is now saying records don't show any involvement by Joe Biden

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-tony-bobulinski-joe-biden-unanswered-questions

Uh...that was the entire point of their discussions via text. Keep Joe's name from being publicly associated with any deals.

TSA
10-24-2020, 12:08 PM
Notice how TSA has abandoned this thread already in favor of "look how awesome muh republicans are doing in Florida."

:lmao

You sure do think about me a lot.

Bogie
10-24-2020, 12:09 PM
Uh...that was the entire point of their discussions via text. Keep Joe's name from being publicly associated with any deals.

so you lied about never being on here on weekends. What else do you lie about?

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 12:09 PM
Bobulinski provided text messages and emails related to his venture to The Wall Street Journal, mainly from the spring and summer of 2017, which don't show Hunter or James Biden discussing Joe Biden's purported role.

Sources familiar with the matter told the Journal that Hunter and Jim Biden's joint venture never got funds from CEFC China Energy Co. ‒ of which Bobulinski was a partner ‒ and corporate records reviewed by the newspaper indicate Joe Biden had no role in the discussions.

:lol rube

Reck
10-24-2020, 12:10 PM
Uh...that was the entire point of their discussions via text. Keep Joe's name from being publicly associated with any deals.

:lmao You still think that’s how real life works.

Let me mention Joe now just to show you how to do it but don’t do it again ok?

Spurminator
10-24-2020, 12:10 PM
I'm not here on the weekends

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 12:12 PM
Now this is where TSAnon starts getting desperate and grasps at literally anything that supports his conspiracy theory.

This is how he started pimping a guy who believes Satanist child molesters control minds with Cat Stevens songs.

TSA
10-24-2020, 12:13 PM
:lmao You still think that’s how real life works.

Let me mention Joe now just to show you how to do it but don’t do it again ok?

Are you so stupid that you don't realize the difference between mentioning someone's name on a private text message and mentioning someone's name publicly?

Bogie
10-24-2020, 12:15 PM
Are you so stupid that you don't realize the difference between mentioning someone's name on a private text message and mentioning someone's name publicly?


what else do you lie about?

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 12:15 PM
Notice how TSA has abandoned this thread already in favor of "look how awesome muh republicans are doing in Florida."

:lmao
:lol he keeps replying to me with the same twitter chart and seems to think it's a sporting event where each party plays offense and defense to prevent the other from voting.

The only stat that matters is 44% of registered Dems in Florida have already voted, and we're only through a half day of weekend early voting. If Democrats can get to 65-70% turnout before election day, they're in good shape. GOP turnout will be around 80% the same way it always is, when/how those ballots come in doesn't really matter.

Reck
10-24-2020, 12:18 PM
Are you so stupid that you don't realize the difference between mentioning someone's name on a private text message and mentioning someone's name publicly?

Text messages can be subpoenaed/brought to light just as easy.

Making your motives or plans known and implicating people through messages is a lousy way to get caught. You’re too desperate.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 12:20 PM
I'm sure TSAnon is a pretty successful dude. His folly is where he thinks that success translates to everything he'll ever do, including decoding special knowledge of national and world events from message boards he claims are not social media. He'll go along with losing his little "wrong about pizzagate" bets but never actually abandons his belief in those theories. He'll bump every federal pedo bust as tacit confirmation of pizzaQate.

Reck
10-24-2020, 12:27 PM
:lol he keeps replying to me with the same twitter chart and seems to think it's a sporting event where each party plays offense and defense to prevent the other from voting.

The only stat that matters is 44% of registered Dems in Florida have already voted, and we're only through a half day of weekend early voting. If Democrats can get to 65-70% turnout before election day, they're in good shape. GOP turnout will be around 80% the same way it always is, when/how those ballots come in doesn't really matter.

I would also argue republicans are voting in higher volume early instead of what they usually do which is wait until Election Day. There is certain to be some cannibalization within the GOP.

They will still show up more on November 3rd but if they continue to vote at this pace, same Election Day voters might not measure up to their usual numbers.

That same guy who TSA just posted a tweet from goes into the numbers deeper. Worth a read.

TSA
10-24-2020, 12:29 PM
:lol he keeps replying to me with the same twitter chart and seems to think it's a sporting event where each party plays offense and defense to prevent the other from voting.

The only stat that matters is 44% of registered Dems in Florida have already voted, and we're only through a half day of weekend early voting. If Democrats can get to 65-70% turnout before election day, they're in good shape. GOP turnout will be around 80% the same way it always is, when/how those ballots come in doesn't really matter.Democrats’ advantage over Republicans among Florida registered voters has shrunk since 2016

More Floridians have registered to vote as Republicans than Democrats since the 2016 presidential elections, continuing a trend seen in previous presidential cycles and sharply narrowing the Democratic Party’s advantage, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of Florida state government data.

There currently are 5.30 million registered Democrats and 5.17 million registered Republicans in the state – an edge of about 134,000 voters in favor of the Democrats. But the size of that margin has fallen from 327,000 in 2016 and 658,000 in 2008.

Democrats and Republicans now make up similar shares of Florida’s registered voters (37% and 36%, respectively), compared with 26% who have no party affiliation. In 2008, the Democratic share of voters was 6 percentage points higher than that of Republicans (42% vs. 36%).

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/20/democrats-advantage-over-republicans-among-florida-registered-voters-has-shrunk-since-2016/

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 12:40 PM
Democrats’ advantage over Republicans among Florida registered voters has shrunk since 2016

More Floridians have registered to vote as Republicans than Democrats since the 2016 presidential elections, continuing a trend seen in previous presidential cycles and sharply narrowing the Democratic Party’s advantage, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of Florida state government data.

There currently are 5.30 million registered Democrats and 5.17 million registered Republicans in the state – an edge of about 134,000 voters in favor of the Democrats. But the size of that margin has fallen from 327,000 in 2016 and 658,000 in 2008.

Democrats and Republicans now make up similar shares of Florida’s registered voters (37% and 36%, respectively), compared with 26% who have no party affiliation. In 2008, the Democratic share of voters was 6 percentage points higher than that of Republicans (42% vs. 36%).

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/20/democrats-advantage-over-republicans-among-florida-registered-voters-has-shrunk-since-2016/
You're not even making any argument, you're just spamming shit.

The Republican share of total registered voters didn't change, it stayed at 36% from 2008 to 2020. That's not Republicans gaining ground on Democrats, it's NPAs gaining ground on Democrats, which makes sense since first time Gen Z voters are more likely to register independent even though they vote straight ticket Democrat.

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 12:49 PM
In 2018 Gillum won independents by 10%, there were just more Republicans who showed up to the polls than Democrats, which is how DeathSantis/Rick Scott won the statewide races. That's how Florida works, Republican turnout is a virtual certainty and Democrat turnout is the variable that changes.

Independents aren't going to swing back to Trump, all that's happened since 2018 is a pandemic that Trump and DeathSantis have fucked up in every which way, hence why if Democrats have 80% turnout in Florida, Trump's path to victory in Florida is extremely difficult.

Blake
10-24-2020, 12:49 PM
:lmao even Fox News is now saying records don't show any involvement by Joe Biden

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-tony-bobulinski-joe-biden-unanswered-questions

BUT IT WAS A KILL SHOT

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:03 PM
FOX NEWS SUPER AWESOME NOW!!!

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:06 PM
:lmao even Fox News is now saying records don't show any involvement by Joe Biden

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-tony-bobulinski-joe-biden-unanswered-questions


BIDEN CAMPAIGN SLAMS HUNTER BIDEN ASSOCIATE'S CLAIMS ABOUT OVERSEAS BUSINESS AS 'DESPERATE, PATHETIC FARCE' (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-campaign-response-tony-bobulinski-hunter-overseas-business-china)
Fox News also obtained text messages from Bobulinski (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-business-partner-email-genuine-joe-biden-advice), a retired Navy lieutenant and the former CEO of SinoHawk Holdings, which he claimed was the partnership between the "CEFC/Chairman Ye" and the joint venture with Hunter and Jim Biden.
The messages show a discussion about a meeting that purportedly took place in May 2017, but little is known about the meeting.
The text messages indicate there was a discussion between Hunter Biden and Bobulinski about a meeting with Joe Biden.



Joe: :cry I don't know anything about my son's business dealings. :cry

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:07 PM
:lol this certainly didn't go the way derp hoped it would

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:08 PM
According to the Post's reporting and Bobulinski, the proposed equity split referenced "20" for "H" and "10 held by H for the big guy?" with no further details.
"In that email, there is no question that 'H' stands for Hunter, 'big guy' for his father, Joe Biden, and Jim for Jim Biden," Bobulinski claimed Thursday in a statement he gave ahead of the second presidential debate, where he was President Trump's guest.



:cry Even Fox News says, amirite? :cry

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:09 PM
:lol this certainly didn't go the way derp hoped it would

You think it's going to go that badly for you, huh?

:lolK

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 01:09 PM
Joe: :cry I don't know anything about my son's business dealings. :cry
Fox News agrees with Joe :tu

TSA
10-24-2020, 01:10 PM
You're not even making any argument, you're just spamming shit.

The Republican share of total registered voters didn't change, it stayed at 36% from 2008 to 2020. That's not Republicans gaining ground on Democrats, it's NPAs gaining ground on Democrats, which makes sense since first time Gen Z voters are more likely to register independent even though they vote straight ticket Democrat.

There has been greater growth in the number of Floridians registered to vote as Republicans than as Democrats since 2016. The number of Republican voters has risen by about 619,000, compared with an increase of 426,000 voters among Democrats.

2008 D 4.7 million
2008 R 4.1 million

2020 D 5.3 million
2020 R 5.2 million

Tell me again how Republicans haven’t gained ground.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:15 PM
Fox News agrees with Joe :tu

Then he's the biggest dip shit in the history of mankind.

Because he's having business meetings with them and extorting countries for them. :lmao

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 01:15 PM
There has been greater growth in the number of Floridians registered to vote as Republicans than as Democrats since 2016. The number of Republican voters has risen by about 619,000, compared with an increase of 426,000 voters among Democrats.

2008 D 4.7 million
2008 R 4.1 million

2020 D 5.3 million
2020 R 5.2 million

Tell me again how Republicans haven’t gained ground.
Republican share of total voters has stayed at 36%
Democrat share of registered voters has decreased to 37%
Independent share of registered voters has increased to 26%

Independent voter registration was driven by gen Z voters, which is why independents voted 10% in favor of Democrats in the 2018 midterms vs. in 2016. Keep declaring victory over registered voters though :tu

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:16 PM
There has been greater growth in the number of Floridians registered to vote as Republicans than as Democrats since 2016. The number of Republican voters has risen by about 619,000, compared with an increase of 426,000 voters among Democrats.

2008 D 4.7 million
2008 R 4.1 million

2020 D 5.3 million
2020 R 5.2 million

Tell me again how Republicans haven’t gained ground.

It's funny because the Democrats were treating Latinos as a monolithic group; and now it's starting to bite them in the ass. :lol

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:19 PM
Republican share of total voters has stayed at 36%
Democrat share of registered voters has decreased to 37%
Independent share of registered voters has increased to 26%

Those aren't good numbers for you. Republicans vote more. The majority of independents lean right.
And if this is FL we're talking about, many older Democrats happy with what Trump doing for them on medicare and prescription drugs.

Reck
10-24-2020, 01:20 PM
Then he's the biggest dip shit in the history of mankind.

Because he's having business meetings with them and extorting countries for them. :lmao

Where is he putting that money? Mattress?

Or is the IRS helping him forge his tax returns?

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 01:21 PM
Those aren't good numbers for you. Republicans vote more. The majority of independents lean right.
And if this is FL we're talking about, many older Democrats happy with what Trump doing for them on medicare and prescription drugs.
Independents in Florida were +10 in favor of Gillum 2 years ago. All Trump and DeathSantis have done since then to win independents back is kill 16,000 Floridians :lol

:lmao Trump's executive order on prescription drugs is completely unenforceable bullshit. The Pharma industry is wiping its ass with it. No one is "happy" with what he's done on prescription drugs - he's done jack shit on prescription drugs.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:22 PM
Where is he putting that money? Mattress?

Or is the IRS helping him forge his tax returns?derp's comeback will be some kind of "errbody knows how the elites hide moneys!" bullshit.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:27 PM
Where is he putting that money? Mattress?

Or is the IRS helping him forge his tax returns?

https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2020/10/NINTCHDBPICT000614531408.jpg?w=620

https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2020/10/NINTCHDBPICT000614531407.jpg?w=620

https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2020/10/NINTCHDBPICT000614531405.jpg?w=620

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:29 PM
:lol derp's class warfare

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 01:30 PM
https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2020/10/NINTCHDBPICT000614531405.jpg?w=620
:lmao Joe Biden hasn't owned that house in over 20 years you fucking retard. Eric Trump already got demolished on twitter for peddling this.

1317547448143929344

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:31 PM
:lmao Joe Biden hasn't owned that house in over 20 years you fucking retard. Eric Trump already got demolished on twitter for peddling this.

1317547448143929344:lmao derp fell for Trump's fake news

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:34 PM
:lmao Joe Biden hasn't owned that house in over 20 years you fucking retard. Eric Trump already got demolished on twitter for peddling this.

1317547448143929344

Oh boo hoo. Tranny asked me what he was doing with the money; I answered.
He has at least two homes that we know of.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:36 PM
Spurtacular fell for Trump's fake news

No, I posted the three homes on the Sun article that I didn't read that closely.

Times are so tough for you that every little thing is a major W for you.

You reek of desperation, derp.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:38 PM
Oh boo hoo. Tranny asked me what he was doing with the money; I answered.
He has at least two homes that we know of.:rollin derp is pissed he got caught pimping Trump's fake news

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 01:40 PM
Biden, like every other VP or POTUS before him, was able to charge ridiculous, six figure amounts of money for speaking engagements after he left office. It's really not a surprise or mystery how he's amassed a $10-$15 million net worth, that's actually low for a former VP who can charge $200k for a few hours of work. Heck, Sarah Palin didn't even get elected, and she was able to make ridiculous amounts of money doing speaking engagements and making TV appearances. Do MAGAtards really not understand this? They seem to think a former VP is wallowing in poverty under normal circumstances after he leaves office.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:40 PM
No, I posted the three homes on the Sun article that I didn't read that closely.

Times are so tough for you that every little thing is a major W for you.

You reek of desperation, derp.You reek of fake news, derp.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlimsyAchingAxolotl-size_restricted.gif

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 01:41 PM
Derp having coping issue for being called out for not reading fake news closely.

Forecast calls for another of derp's coping thread.

:lmao

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:43 PM
:rollin derp is pissed he got caught pimping Trump's fake news

I just told you I referenced a Sun article, moron.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:44 PM
You reek of fake news, derp.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlimsyAchingAxolotl-size_restricted.gif


Moar depseration.

That meme has zero effect when paired with your manufactured truths, BlakeBlaker

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:45 PM
Moar depseration.

That meme has zero effect when paired with your manufactured truths, BlakeBlaker:lol you're so mad right now, derp

You spread fake news and you're getting dragged for it.

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 01:46 PM
I just told you I referenced a Sun article, moron.
:lol yet you didn't provide a link to it.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:48 PM
:lol you're so mad right now, derp

You spread fake news and you're getting dragged for it.

I'm not a journalist, derp. This is a message board.

I don't vet stuff for extended periods to spare your feelings. :lol

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 01:49 PM
:lol yet you didn't provide a link to it.

:lmao

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:49 PM
:lol yet you didn't provide a link to it.

Why would I need to?

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:50 PM
I'm not a journalist, derp. This is a message board.

I don't vet stuff for extended periods to spare your feelings. :lol


Why would I need to?:lmao derp admits he just desperately throws up whatever he finds

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 01:50 PM
Why would I need to?
You don't "need" to do anything. It's just obvious what you're doing when you post pictures from an article without providing a link.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:51 PM
:lmao derp admits he just desperately throws up whatever he finds

I admit I don't apply a super high journalistic standard to what I post. Nobody here does.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:51 PM
You don't "need" to do anything. It's just obvious what you're doing when you post pictures from an article without providing a link.:cryIn my defense, I didn't read anything:cry

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:52 PM
You don't "need" to do anything. It's just obvious what you're doing when you post pictures from an article without providing a link.

What's obvious?

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:52 PM
I admit I don't apply a super high journalistic standard to what I post. Nobody here does.You admit accuracy and truth mean nothing to you, derp.:tu

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 01:53 PM
:lmao derp admits he just desperately throws up whatever he finds

You mean to say that the derp is just a feces flinging monkey-bot?

:lmao

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:54 PM
You admit accuracy and truth mean nothing to you, derp.:tu

I admit that's your psychopath truth.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:55 PM
You mean to say that the derp is just a feces flinging monkey-bot?

:lmao

:cry Joe owns two houses, not three. Derp lied about this super serious stuff and can't be trusted, amirite? :cry

Get a hold of yourself.

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 01:55 PM
You admit accuracy and truth mean nothing to you, derp.:tu

But derp's :cry muh honest broker :cry muh integrity :lmao

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 01:55 PM
What's obvious?
You're trying to hide the source/validity of the information you're posting.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:56 PM
You mean to say that the derp is just a feces flinging monkey-bot?

:lmaoHe just gets increasingly sloppy and derpsperate when his narrative starts crumbling. Happens to every Trump supporter here. Ultimately they have to say ITROLLU and stamp off to another thread.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 01:57 PM
You admit accuracy and truth mean nothing to you, derp.:tu

I was okay with the ballpark truth on something relatively innocuous in the context of this thread.

Your feelings got really hurt though.

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 01:57 PM
:cry Joe owns two houses, not three. Derp lied about this super serious stuff and can't be trusted, amirite? :cry

Get a hold of yourself.

You were right ChumpDumper, derp is just a feces flinging monkey-bot!

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 01:59 PM
I was okay with the ballpark truth on something relatively innocuous in the context of this thread.

Your feelings got really hurt though.:lmao you admit you can't even get a basic fact right you brought up yourself but don't think is important anyway.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:01 PM
You're trying to hide the source/validity of the information you're posting.

Why would I be trying to hide it?

TimDunkem
10-24-2020, 02:01 PM
Chump has a fucking necropolis full of Derp and Foldren bodies. Holy shit. :lol

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 02:01 PM
Why would I be trying to hide it?
Because it's bullshit.

In the time you've spent replying to me, you could have posted the link several times over. For whatever reason you want to argue about posting the link rather than take the 5 seconds it would require to post the link.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:01 PM
:lmao you admit you can't even get a basic fact right you brought up yourself but don't think is important anyway.

It's been explained. You need to put your desperate narrative from there.

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 02:02 PM
I was okay with the ballpark truth on something relatively innocuous in the context of this thread.

Your feelings got really hurt though.

Ballpark truth? :lmao

You sure are butthurt over being called out.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:03 PM
Because it's bullshit.

In the time you've spent replying to me, you could have posted the link several times over. For whatever reason you want to argue about posting the link rather than take the 5 seconds it would require to post the link.

I could have. But the insinuation is that I'm boldface lying to you. You think you can just casually call people boldfaced liars every time you get your feelings hurt? Will you be apologizing if I show you that you're wrong?

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:03 PM
It's been explained. You need to put your desperate narrative from there.It's your narrative.

You searched for and posted three pictures without reading anything and think they're "innocuous" to the actual discussion.

:lol derp

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:04 PM
I could have. But the insinuation is that I'm boldface lying to you. You think you can just casually call people boldfaced liars every time you get your feelings hurt? Will you be apologizing if I show you that you're wrong?
If you want to claim you're sloppy and ignorant, I think we can accept that.

Are you saying you're sloppy and ignorant?

Yes or no.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:05 PM
Ballpark truth?

Yup. Tranny asked me what he was spending his money on. I posted houses.
It didn't matter much to my point whether it was two or three.

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 02:06 PM
I could have. But the insinuation is that I'm boldface lying to you.
The insinuation is that you're trying to hide something.


You think you can just casually call people boldfaced liars every time you get your feelings hurt?
:lmao you take the internet very seriously.....:cry you think you can just call people liars :cry


Will you be apologizing if I show you that you're wrong?
Apologizing for what?

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 02:06 PM
Chump has a fucking necropolis full of Derp and Foldren bodies. Holy shit. :lol

I believe that ChumpDumper should be arrested for the repeated killing of the derp.

Bet that even with Giuliani as the inept prosecuting attorney, ChumpDumper would get the electric chair in court hearing in the Vatican with the pope acting as chief executioner.

Sorry ChumpDumper, but you are a habitual derp killer.

:lmao

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:06 PM
It's your narrative.

You searched for and posted three pictures without reading anything and think they're "innocuous" to the actual discussion.

:lol derp

No. It's your narrative.
I explained the process.
You weren't lied to.
I just didn't give a fuck about pinpoint accuracy for the point I was making.
91-9 really got you down is all.

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 02:07 PM
I just didn't give a fuck about pinpoint accuracy for the point I was making.
No one's gonna disagree with you on that one champ.

TimDunkem
10-24-2020, 02:08 PM
I believe that ChumpDumper should be arrested for the repeated killing of the derp.

Bet that even with Giuliani as the inept prosecuting attorney, ChumpDumper would get the electric chair in court hearing in the Vatican with the pope acting as chief executioner.

Sorry ChumpDumper, but you are a habitual derp killer.

:lmaoIt's practically a fucking holocaust every time CD replies to Derp's countless derps. Derp will still say it didn't happen though the same way he says the real holocaust didn't happen.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:08 PM
No. It's your narrative.
I explained the process.
You weren't lied to.
I just didn't give a fuck about pinpoint accuracy for the point I was making.
91-9 really got you down is all.:lol your process is posting pictures without reading anything then saying they're not important.

You're sloppy and ignorant.

I accept your characterization of yourself.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:09 PM
No one's gonna disagree with you on that one champ.:lmao

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:10 PM
The insinuation is that you're trying to hide something.


:lmao you take the internet very seriously.....:cry you think you can just call people liars :cry


Apologizing for what?

Okay. But the point is that Chumpettes think they can play the liar card all the time.
If I dignify it regularly, I become a link chaser. That's not what I want to do with my time.
Especially for bitches who just get owned and still do it every time thereafter.
I've set this standard for a reason.

TimDunkem
10-24-2020, 02:10 PM
No one's gonna disagree with you on that one champ.
:lol Derp with the self-inflicted kill shot. He finally has one body to CD's 10k.

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 02:11 PM
No one's gonna disagree with you on that one champ.

Dang, you done broke him WH.

Next ten derp coping threads are your fault.

:tu

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:12 PM
:lol your process is posting pictures without reading anything then saying they're not important.

You're sloppy and ignorant.

I accept your characterization of yourself.

It wasn't very consequential to the point I was making that one of the three houses has been sold.
You're raging over something so minuscule because 91-9 has got you all out of sorts.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:12 PM
Okay. But the point is that Chumpettes think they can play the liar card all the time.
If I dignify it regularly, I become a link chaser. That's not what I want to do with my time.
Especially for bitches who just get owned and still do it every time thereafter.
I've set this standard for a reason.You've set your standard of being sloppy and ignorant because you want to spend your time being sloppy and ignorant.

:lolK

TimDunkem
10-24-2020, 02:12 PM
Yeah he's got nothing.

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 02:13 PM
Okay. But the point is that Chumpettes think they can play the liar card all the time.
If I dignify it regularly, I become a link chaser. That's not what I want to do with my time.
Especially for bitches who just get owned and still do it every time thereafter.
I've set this standard for a reason.

Low standard, but standard nonetheless.

:tu

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:14 PM
It wasn't very consequential to the point I was making that one of the three houses has been sold.
You're raging over something so minuscule because 91-9 has got you all out of sorts."Guy who makes $250k a year with his wife has two houses."

This is your point?

:lmao

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:15 PM
You've set your standard of being sloppy and ignorant because you want to spend your time being sloppy and ignorant.

:lolK

:cry Muh mountain out of a molehill :cry

:lmao 91-9 eating you alive.

TimDunkem
10-24-2020, 02:16 PM
"Guy who makes $250k a year with his wife has two houses."

This is your point?

:lmaoDerp can only imagine the privileges of not being perpetually unemployed, having a house, a woman, and not being a sad virgin who stays up for days at a time trying to get back at all the guys who made fun of him about Jimmer that one time years ago.

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 02:16 PM
"Guy who can charge $200k for a speaking engagement has two houses."

This is your point?

:lmao
fify :lol

The MAGAtards have actually shined a light on how modest Biden lives. If I could charge $200k for a speaking engagement, I'd own 10 houses and a yacht so big that Steve Bannon would want to get arrested for fraud while he was on it.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:17 PM
"Guy who makes $250k a year with his wife has two houses."

This is your point?

:lmao

A mansion and beachfront property sound doable on that salary?

The big guy gets his cut, derp.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:18 PM
fify :lol

The MAGAtards have actually shined a light on how modest Biden lives. If I could charge $200k for a speaking engagement, I'd own 10 houses and a yacht so big that Steve Bannon would want to get arrested for fraud while he was on it.Right. I was going by that old NYT article.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:18 PM
fify :lol

The MAGAtards have actually shined a light on how modest Biden lives. If I could charge $200k for a speaking engagement, I'd own 10 houses and a yacht so big that Steve Bannon would want to get arrested for fraud while he was on it.

Biden's getting $200K for speaking engagements? Someone's bought and paid for. :lol

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 02:20 PM
:cry Muh mountain out of a molehill :cry


:cry muh ballpark :cry muh pictures of homes I will never live in

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:20 PM
A mansion and beachfront property sound doable on that salary?Had you, you know, actually read anything about the houses and/or knew anything about buying real estate -- yes. It's easily doable. Stupidly easy.

Anyone who isn't an idiot could understand that.

Can you understand that, derp?

Yes or no.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:21 PM
Biden's getting $200K for speaking engagements? Someone's bought and paid for. :lol:lmao derp redassing his ignorance of real estate and speaking fees.

TimDunkem
10-24-2020, 02:22 PM
Had you, you know, actually read anything about the houses and/or knew anything about buying real estate -- yes. It's easily doable. Stupidly easy.

Anyone who isn't an idiot could understand that.

Can you understand that, derp?

Yes or no.
We need to remember Derp doesn't actually have a life. He's been up like 3 days straight while chasing around you guys for years. He knows knowing about real estate. :lmao

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 02:24 PM
Biden's getting $200K for speaking engagements? Someone's bought and paid for. :lol
Why do you act like this is so atypical? Every former president/vice president is able to charge six figure amounts for speaking engagements. Even high profile politicians who weren't VP/POTUS can. The entire reason Sarah Palin resigned as governor of Alaska 6 months after losing the 2008 election was because she knew her fame wouldn't last forever and needed to milk the speaking engagement revenue as quickly as she could.

https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/sarah-palin-earned-estimated-12-million-july/story?id=10352437


While book and television royalties are huge earners, Palin, 46, has taken on a breakneck schedule of public speaking engagements, booked through the Washington Speakers Bureau. Her typical fee is $100,000, according to a January report in Politico, though she accepts a somewhat smaller fee for events on the West Coast because they are easier to get to from Alaska. Speakers Bureau officials did not respond to emailed questions.

Speaking fees have long provided a steady income to big-name elected officials who have left the political main stage. President Reagan once got $2 million from a Japanese manufacturing company for two 20-minute speeches. Bill Clinton collected some $40 million in speaking fees during the six years following his presidency. And George W. Bush told reporters he expected to make a "ridiculous" amount of money on the speaker's circuit when he left office.

TimDunkem
10-24-2020, 02:27 PM
Derp, you should get some sleep so you can be back on at 4am to do damage control while your bullies are asleep like you usually do. You have a lot of derps to clean up today.

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 02:28 PM
Why do you act like this is so atypical? Every former president/vice president is able to charge six figure amounts for speaking engagements. Even high profile politicians who weren't VP/POTUS can. The entire reason Sarah Palin resigned as governor of Alaska 6 months after losing the 2008 election was because she knew her fame wouldn't last forever and needed to milk the speaking engagement revenue as quickly as she could.

https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/sarah-palin-earned-estimated-12-million-july/story?id=10352437

Dang you WH, you rode brokeback derp too hard.

Now he is off looking for ballpark coping thread material.

TimDunkem
10-24-2020, 02:30 PM
Welp, this thread was a failure. See you at 4am during Derp echo chamber hours, Derp. Can't wait to see the copium you have for us tomorrow.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:34 PM
Why do you act like this is so atypical?

I don't act like it's atypical. Do you act like Biden's not in someone's pocket? Because that would be atypical.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:34 PM
You give up on your witch hunt, Will Hunting?

FFS, all three links I posted were from Sun.com. :lmao

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:35 PM
I don't act like it's atypical. Do you act like Biden's not in someone's pocket? Because that would be atypical.:lol you're saying Biden is in the pocket of anyone who paid him to speak?

Explain this conspiracy theory.

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 02:36 PM
I don't act like it's atypical. Do you act like Biden's not in someone's pocket? Because that would be atypical.
Whether or not he is has fuck-all to do with his speaking engagement fees.


You give up on your witch hunt, Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032)?

FFS, all three links I posted were from Sun.com. :lmao
I got you to say you don't care about the accuracy of the facts you post. That's a sufficient W for me.

TimDunkem
10-24-2020, 02:37 PM
Derp has never received a paycheck. He doesn't know the difference between getting paid and being in someone's pocket.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:37 PM
:lol you're saying Biden is in the pocket of anyone who paid him to speak?

Explain this conspiracy theory.

Do you really need to quid pro quo explained to you, BlakeBlaker? :lol

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:38 PM
Whether or not he is has fuck-all to do with his speaking engagement fees.

Sure it does. When word gets out that there's no bang for the buck, the well dries up.
:lol So bent out of shape that you're denying basic realities.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:39 PM
Do you really need to quid pro quo explained to you, BlakeBlaker? :lolYes, derp.

Explain your quid-pro-quo theory when a person is out of office.

Go.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:40 PM
Sure it does. When word gets out that there's no bang for the buck, the well dries up.
:lol So bent out of shape that you're denying basic realities.:lmao what does this even mean?

What's the bang for the buck for a person not in office?

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:40 PM
I got you to say you don't care about the accuracy of the facts you post. That's a sufficient W for me.

Coping with your witch hunt L.

Yea, I can live with inaccuracies from time to time on stuff that is ultimately of little to no matter. :tu

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:42 PM
Coping with your witch hunt L.

Yea, I can live with inaccuracies from time to time on stuff that is ultimately of little to no matter. :tu:lmao shitting on your own argument.:tu

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 02:42 PM
Sure it does. When word gets out that there's no bang for the buck, the well dries up.
:lol So bent out of shape that you're denying basic realities.
:lol yeah, I'm bent out of shape. Not the guy ranting about how he intentionally doesn't provide links as a larger part of his convoluted internet argument strategy. Keep projecting slugger.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:43 PM
Yes, derp.

Explain your quid-pro-quo theory when a person is out of office.

Go.

Do you think the corporations pay exorbitant fees without the expectation of quid pro quo?

You need to stop trying to desperately manufacture w's. It's just sad.

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 02:44 PM
Okay. But the point is that Chumpettes think they can play the liar card all the time.
If I dignify it regularly, I become a link chaser. That's not what I want to do with my time.
Especially for bitches who just get owned and still do it every time thereafter.
I've set this standard for a reason.
:lol "set this standard"
:lol "That's not what I want to do with my time"

You take the internet more seriously than anyone else on this site, and you're calling other people bent out of shape.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:44 PM
:lol yeah, I'm bent out of shape. Not the guy ranting about how he intentionally doesn't provide links as a larger part of his convoluted internet argument strategy. Keep projecting slugger.I JUST POST THINGS THEY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING MY ARGUMENT IS ALWAYS LOOK I KNOW STUFF EVEN THOUGH I PROVE MY IGNORANCE DAILY SHUT UP YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:46 PM
Do you think the corporations pay exorbitant fees without the expectation of quid pro quo?They expect a famous person to give a speech for them.

What do you think they expect of a person who isn't in office, derp?

Be specific.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 02:46 PM
:lol yeah, I'm bent out of shape. Not the guy ranting about how he intentionally doesn't provide links as a larger part of his convoluted internet argument strategy. Keep projecting slugger.

Goalpost move. I already acknowledged the error on houses numbers. This goes back to Chump's Trump fake news claim. You hopped on that and even after I just explained the links are from sun.com you're actually still desperately trying to get a W out of it. Sad, honestly. I've been trying to tell you that you're better than this. But maybe you're just not better than this. It is what it is.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 02:48 PM
Goalpost move. I already acknowledged the error on houses numbers. This goes back to Chump's Trump fake news claim. You hopped on that and even after I just explained the links are from sun.com you're actually still desperately trying to get a W out of it. Sad, honestly. I've been trying to tell you that you're better than this. But maybe you're just not better than this. It is what it is.GUYS I'M SLOPPY AND IGNORANT AND NOTHING I SAY MATTERS THAT'S WHY I'M BETTER THAN YOU

Will Hunting
10-24-2020, 02:48 PM
Goalpost move. I already acknowledged the error on houses numbers. This goes back to Chump's Trump fake news claim. You hopped on that and even after I just explained the links are from sun.com you're actually still desperately trying to get a W out of it. Sad, honestly. I've been trying to tell you that you're better than this. But maybe you're just not better than this. It is what it is.
:lol another post where you display how super seriously you take the politics section of an internet basketball forum

Ef-man
10-24-2020, 02:53 PM
Goalpost move.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/010/692/19789999.jpg

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 03:00 PM
Correction. It's 92-8, not 91-9. Chumpettes going to lose their shit. :lmao

:cry You don't care about accuracy :cry

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/23/07/34739272-8870989-Trump_posted_a_screenshot_of_other_online_Twitter_ surveys_like_t-a-94_1603433225258.jpg

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 03:02 PM
:lol another post where you display how super seriously you take the politics section of an internet basketball forum

It's not so serious is the point I made from the get go. :lol

You're the one who lost their shit that I stated Biden has three houses and not two. :lmao

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 03:05 PM
It's not so serious is the point I made from the get go. :lol

You're the one who lost their shit that I stated Biden has three houses and not two. :lmaoYou claimed it's not important but spent the last two hours doing damage control.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 03:07 PM
You claimed it's not important but spent the last two hours doing damage control.

You spent two hours interrogating me about it. :lmao

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 03:11 PM
You spent two hours interrogating me about it. :lmaoBecause you spread completely false information all the time and you're proud of it.

What is important to you here?

Your enemies?

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 03:12 PM
Because you spread completely false information all the time and you're proud of it.

I acknowledged the inaccuracy right away.

Gawd, you're such a pathological bitch. :lol

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 03:13 PM
I acknowledged the inaccuracy right away.

Gawd, you're such a pathological bitch. :lolAnd have been making excuses for it ever since.

Why?

Splits
10-24-2020, 03:24 PM
Correction. It's 92-8, not 91-9. Chumpettes going to lose their shit. :lmao

:cry You don't care about accuracy :cry

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/23/07/34739272-8870989-Trump_posted_a_screenshot_of_other_online_Twitter_ surveys_like_t-a-94_1603433225258.jpg

:lmao polls good now

any poll that is outside 65-35 either way is complete bullshit, both bases are dug in. yeah, all independents and 70% of democrats thought Trump won the debate :lol

TimDunkem
10-24-2020, 03:41 PM
Damn the copium in Derp's veins is hitting unsustainable levels. Someone needs to have the suicide prevention hotline on standby come election day.

Winehole23
10-24-2020, 03:51 PM
Oh boo hoo. Tranny asked me what he was doing with the money; I answered.
He has at least two homes that we know of.Joe Biden made money off real estate one time?

(If true, compared to Trump, Joe Biden may be the more successful real estate operator.)

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 03:52 PM
And have been making excuses for it ever since.

Why?

Nice pivot. You spent the day interrogating on something I acknowledged right away.

You're a very angry person is all. I hope you get some help before you kill some people.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 03:54 PM
Nice pivot. You spent the day interrogating on something I acknowledged right away.

You're a very angry person is all. I hope you get some help before you kill some people.:lmao you kept making excuses for your fuckup.

Sure I asked you why you fuck up and don't care about fucking up all the time.

You're a fuckup, derp.:lol

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 03:58 PM
:lmao you kept making excuses for your fuckup.

Sure I asked you why you fuck up and don't care about fucking up all the time.

You're a fuckup, derp.:lol

Moar false narrative from seething derp.

I hope you get help before you kill people.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 03:59 PM
Moar false narrative from seething derp.

I hope you get help before you kill people.:lol what's the false part derp?

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 04:06 PM
:lol what's the false part derp?

:cry Walk me through your patently true claim :cry

Get help before you kill someone.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 04:15 PM
:cry Walk me through your patently true claim :cry

Get help before you kill someone.:lol derp folds
:lol my claim stands unchallenged: you're an intentional fuckup, derp.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 04:18 PM
:lol derp folds
:lol my claim stands unchallenged: you're an intentional fuckup, derp.

I hope you get help before someone ends up like the captain, if indeed you are responsible for his demise.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 04:20 PM
:cry:lol what are you talking about?
:lol you're so derpsperately lashing out now.
:lol All the sudden you want to change the subject.
:lol Accept you're a fuckup, derp.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 04:21 PM
:lol you're so derpsperately lashing out now.
:lol All the sudden you want to change the subject.
:lol Accept you're a fuckup, derp.

I did in the very next post I made.

You need to deal with your rage before you end up going on a killing spree.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 04:22 PM
I did in the very next post I made.:lol you've been making excuses and saying you don't care for three hours, derp.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 04:24 PM
:lol you've been making excuses and saying you don't care for three hours, derp.

I dealt with it right away.

The rage consumes you. I really hope you don't kill anyone.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 04:25 PM
I dealt with it right away.You're still making excuses and trying to deflect, derp.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 04:29 PM
You're still making excuses and trying to deflect, derp.

By owning it right away and even now telling you what happened?

You spout shit like a cuckbot. You're not even above blake level.

It's utterly pathetic.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 04:30 PM
By owning it right away and even now telling you what happened?

You spout shit like a cuckbot. You're not even above blake level.

It's utterly pathetic.:lmao you're still defending your fuckup three hours later

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 04:40 PM
:lmao you're still defending your fuckup three hours later

It's been explained / "defended".

Get help with your rage. I would hope nobody goes the way of the captain.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 04:42 PM
It's been explained / "defended".And you still won't shut up about your fuckup.:lol

TSA
10-24-2020, 04:42 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1320049973090725889

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 04:44 PM
:lmao TSA still wants this to be a thing

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 04:47 PM
:madrun

I pray that people don't get killed.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 04:48 PM
I pray that people don't get killed.By laughing at you?

I guess it's possible, derp.

After all, you're an unmitigated fuckup.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 04:51 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1320049973090725889

Damning. It's not Trump, so it'll be buried and won't change more hearts and minds.
But enough people learned of the Hunter e-mails and watched Joe shrivel in the debates; and the damage is done.
Chumpettes on their second full day of mourning following 92-8.

Chris
10-24-2020, 04:52 PM
:lmao TSA still wants this to be a thing

you want it to not be a thing SO BAD :lmao

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 04:52 PM
:lol derp raging even though he thinks it's going to be a 92-8% landslide.

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 04:52 PM
By laughing at you?

I guess it's possible, derp.

After all, you're an unmitigated fuckup.

:lol You're drunk on rageahol.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 04:53 PM
you want it to not be a thing SO BAD :lmaoAt worst you're accusing Joe of doing what Trump was impeached for.

Do you say that's good or bad?

Spurtacular
10-24-2020, 04:53 PM
you want it to not be a thing SO BAD :lmao

He doesn't have the tools to deal with this.

I just hope nobody gets murdered.

ChumpDumper
10-24-2020, 04:54 PM
He doesn't have the tools to deal with this.

I just hope nobody gets murdered.Trump's DOJ is free to indict Joe right now.

Why hasn't he?