2020-21 NBA Season Thread

[baseline bum]

Curry was blessed with a superior team that still got beat in finals 2x and has proved he cannot lead without Thompson and Durant. Not once was he MVP of a finals as he consistently deferred to Durant to take the key shots. All Curry is a great shooter. Young may get some players around him and get a chip or two but is a lot more fun to watch already than the soft Curry. Yes Curry right now still accomplished but time will tell.

LOL the guy who changed the game the most since Wilt ain't shit

[Rummpd]

LOL the guy who changed the game the most since Wilt ain't shit

He is just one of many shooters. Great player but soft when it counts and can’t lead. Game changed before him he just benefited soft new rules and having great teams including Thompson- who may be an even better pure shooter. But it has been definitely proven cannot carry a team.

[baseline bum]

He is just one of many shooters - your post is a fail. Great player but soft when it counts and can’t lead.

Dumbass, he's the one who showed you can win titles with the three ball. You just hate Curry for talking shit about Trump and you'll be talking shit about Young in two years if he makes efforts to get black people in GA registered for the midterms just like how butthurt you have been at LeBron for his efforts in the 2020 election instead of shutting up and dribbling.

[Neo.]

He is just one of many shooters. Great player but soft when it counts and can’t lead. Game changed before him he just benefited soft new rules and having great teams including Thompson- who may be an even better pure shooter. But it has been definitely proven cannot carry a team.
just one of many :lmao

[lefty]

:lol one of many shooters

[LkrFan]

Sure, it's not life and death, but this player is a great America tragedy. 3-14, 2-8, on and on and on. They keep him and let Rondo, Howard, et al walk away. Maddening.

We're just gd lucky we rang last season.

^^ Truth bombs :tu

[Rummpd]

[QUOTE=baseline bum;10538603]Dumbass, he's the one who showed you can win titles with the three ball. You just hate Curry for talking shit about Trump and you'll be talking shit about Young in two years if he makes efforts to get black people in GA registered for the midterms just like how butthurt you have been at LeBron for his efforts in the 2020 election instead of shutting up and dribbling.[/QUOT

Sublime response per par. Cannot argue basketball with any crediblity. Curry great great shooter but non leader either when he had a stacked team or this year when he failed to make playoffs.

[Kim Jong-il]

I’ve been on the “Curry is overrated” movement for years, but the fact that Rummpd has the same opinion is making me rethink things :lol

[baseline bum]

Dumbass, he's the one who showed you can win titles with the three ball. You just hate Curry for talking shit about Trump and you'll be talking shit about Young in two years if he makes efforts to get black people in GA registered for the midterms just like how butthurt you have been at LeBron for his efforts in the 2020 election instead of shutting up and dribbling.

Sublime response per par. Cannot argue basketball with any crediblity. Curry great great shooter but non leader either when he had a stacked team or this year when he failed to make playoffs.

Oh yeah Steph Curry is just one of many shooters is credible basketball knowledge, boomer. LOL can't even use the quote function when its at the level of like Baby's First HTML.

[Robz4000]

:lol calling Curry just one of many great shooters is like calling TD just one of many great PFs

[Robz4000]

Forget about Booker, Ayton might be the Suns' best player tbh.

[Robz4000]

Feels like the Clips are gonna win this one.

[baseline bum]

Lots of Suns fans at Staples. Don't think you'd ever see that shit at a Lakers game. At least at a Lakers game not against Jordan.

[baseline bum]

God damn I love watching CP3's ballhandling.

[lefty]

:lol Reggie attempting that no look pass

[baseline bum]

These gray Clippers jerseys are ugly as fuck, not sure why they went away from their San Andreas gear.

[timtonymanu]

Here we go with the predictable Clippers comeback :rolleyes

Reggie Jackson has been the Clippers best player, even better than Paul George

[Robz4000]

Clippers are gonna backdoor the Suns, aren't they?

[Robz4000]

:lmao Suns making mistakes high school players wouldn't even make

[Isitjustme?]

:lol calling Curry just one of many great shooters is like calling TD just one of many great PFs

There are also other good shooters in the league so Curry's shooting skill doesn't really matter much if you think about it.

[timtonymanu]

Is Rummpd the guy with the petite wife?

[Robz4000]

There are also other good shooters in the league so Curry's shooting skill doesn't really matter much if you think about it.

The only player that even compares to him in the fear induced when they have the ball in their hands is Lillard, and unlike Lillard that's true for the entire game. Not to mention the rest of his offensive game.

[ducks]

The Clippers are only down three points despite shooting 37% from the field, and 20% from three. They have one quarter to hope the law of averages kicks in. They need a fourth quarter explosion from Paul George and the team

[davethedope]

There are also other good shooters in the league so Curry's shooting skill doesn't really matter much if you think about it.

Can you expand on this...

[Robz4000]

Booker is melting down out there. Pathetic performance from him this series since game 1.

[davethedope]

Booker is melting down out there. Pathetic performance from him this series since game 1.

They Clips are going after him and the refs are piling on.

[Robz4000]

They Clips are going after him and the refs are piling on.

Refs have been favoring the Clippers heavily but the Clippers themselves are doing what any competent team should be doing. The true greats will find a way to play through it instead of wilting.

[Robz4000]

I don't understand why the Suns keep chucking shots instead of heading to the rim. They had the bonus 4 mins into the third quarter but only shot four freebies the rest of the way. Would be a much different game if they did.

[davethedope]

Refs have been favoring the Clippers heavily but the Clippers themselves are doing what any competent team should be doing. The true greats will find a way to play through it instead of wilting.

Yeah Booker is kind of looking like a pussy tbh

[Isitjustme?]

The only player that even compares to him in the fear induced when they have the ball in their hands is Lillard, and unlike Lillard that's true for the entire game. Not to mention the rest of his offensive game.

I was mocking Rummpd

[Isitjustme?]

Ayton is a fucking baller

[Robz4000]

I was mocking Rummpd

Ah, my bad :lol

[Robz4000]

Ayton is a fucking baller

Best player on the Suns tbh. That 2018 draft class is gonna go down as one of the best ever.

[Robz4000]

:lol these calls

[davethedope]

Pat Bev is one of those guys you have to go Metta World Peace on otherwise he'll eat your lunch

[Robz4000]

That'll be overruled and Booker will be done with 6 fouls.

[Isitjustme?]

Patrick "he's too fucking small!" Beverley was unable to even be on the same court as Luka or he'd be targeted and driven off the court immediately. Booker :lol

[Robz4000]

Booker has definitely been exposed this series after that amazing game one. Dude is a mental midget.

[davethedope]

Booker has definitely been exposed this series after that amazing game one. Dude is a mental midget.

Dude that's called the "Mamba Mentality"... get with it...

[Robz4000]

:lol that was off Paul George

[davethedope]

100% off George but at least he has a chance now to be Pandemic Pete

[Robz4000]

Clippers winning this one and prolly the series now. Booker is mentally done and Chris Paul is too old to lead the team at this point.

[Kim Jong-il]

Mikal Bridges is an underrated “most punchable face” guy

[davethedope]

It's all about Pandemic Pete now, can he drain the clutch three or will it brick into the fourth row?

[timtonymanu]

:lol Clipperefs

[Robz4000]

:lol Playoff Pee and now the phantom call to bail them out

[timtonymanu]

God it's so blatant how much the refs are trying to help the Clippers out.

[lefty]

:lol cousins

[timtonymanu]

Choke Paul on that 2nd free throw

[Robz4000]

Why would you foul him there? They'd have to hit a half court shot to tie.

[davethedope]

God it's so blatant how much the refs are trying to help the Clippers out.

That foul on Saric was diabolical

[lefty]

Not sure about ClipperRefs

#14 for LAC should have gotten an and 1 a few minutes earlier

It’s just that Mauer needs to retire

[Robz4000]

Neither team deserved to win this game. Poor play and secision-making all around.

[timtonymanu]

Clippers winning this one and prolly the series now. Booker is mentally done and Chris Paul is too old to lead the team at this point.

Nice jinx post. But I still think the Clippers can win this series. :lol

[davethedope]

Neither team deserved to win this game. Poor play and secision-making all around.

i was just about to say this

[spursreport]

Neither team deserved to win this game. Poor play and secision-making all around.

Agreed. Clips are still in excellent shape. Glad you see things clearly breh!

[spursreport]

Clips gave another one away, but they’ll be fine. Team of destiny. Kawhi’s recent rants will only fire up the team. I LOVE this man as a leader. The team fucked around today, but they’ll be fine. This is their championship to lose.

[baseline bum]

Agreed. Clips are still in excellent shape. Glad you see things clearly breh!

Leonard gonna have to announce he's going to Miami to motivate his team down 3-1 now.

[Arcadian]

As I was saying...


Why is anyone skeptical about the Suns? They have a young all-star guard, a young all-star center, and a veteran future HoF captain hungry for his first ring. And they were basically tied for the best team in regular season.

[InRareForm]

Pistons spurs 2005 kind of score

[timtonymanu]

Leonard gonna have to announce he's going to Miami to motivate his team down 3-1 now.

Was about to say that poster is a poor man's attempt at Timmy2Zo kind of trolling lol.

[baseline bum]

This wasn't as bad as Game 2, but fucking hell do the refs have a hard-on for helping the Clippers.

[Xylus]

Deandre Ayton primed to win Finals MVP, holy shit

[timtonymanu]

Deandre Ayton primed to win Finals MVP, holy shit

Hope they win it all for you, man. You’ve always been a great dude and fan!

[Rummpd]

Oh yeah Steph Curry is just one of many shooters is credible basketball knowledge, boomer. LOL can't even use the quote function when its at the level of like Baby's First HTML.

Read the posts I am not argueing he is a not a truly great scorer and shooter = just not a leader and that is a proven and undeliable fact. He was 2nd banana with Durant deferring in key moments, and has failed miserably to lead team without Thompson. Sorry the facts bother you.

[Fat Brandon Bass]

:lol Cousins going ooga booga at the line and throwing it off the backboard

[baseline bum]

Read the posts I am not argueing he is a not a truly great scorer and shooter = just not a leader and that is a proven and undeliable fact. He was 2nd banana with Durant deferring in key moments, and has failed miserably to lead team without Thompson. Sorry the facts bother you.

Oh yeah he's just another shooter is facts. So butthurt he didn't want to go visit the Dear Nazi after ringing.

[baseline bum]

Deandre Ayton primed to win Finals MVP, holy shit

Dude c'mon man, this round ain't even over and next round will probably be tougher, as flawed as the Bucks are. Still, I'm rooting for you guys and think you have the most fun team to watch in the playoffs (not of the remaining 4, but of the entire group of 20). And the best team in the league. If you can get Finals tickets, there's nothing like the experience for a fanbase that's hungry after being a joke to the rest of the league for years (eg like the 99 Finals was for Spurs fans after years of the the team being called soft).

[lefty]

Milwaukee could be a difficult matchup for the Suns
Rooting for CP3 tbh

[Xylus]

Dude c'mon man, this round ain't even over and next round will probably be tougher, as flawed as the Bucks are.

You’re preaching to the choir, I assume we’re going to lose every game we ever play.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Pistons spurs 2005 kind of score

:toast

I miss Yesterday's NBA, tbh. Last night was my kind of game. Points at a premium, let the stars rise up.

[Mark Celibate]

Read the posts I am not argueing he is a not a truly great scorer and shooter = just not a leader and that is a proven and undeliable fact. He was 2nd banana with Durant deferring in key moments, and has failed miserably to lead team without Thompson. Sorry the facts bother you.

you said he is just "one of many shooters" as in he's a dime a dozen. I always like to think that I evaluate posts unbiasedly.....as in I (and pretty much everyone on the forum) knows that you're a grade A dimwit, but I will still take your posts seriously. That being said the guy literally changed the way the NBA was played.....i.e. extended the defense to where you now have to guard 25+ feet out because any good shooter nowadays can pull up quickly from that range and make it at a decent clip. and guess who started that trend? any other era if you try to pull something like that and miss, you'll find yourself on the bench the rest of the game

now I do think you can make an argument that Curry may be lacking as a leader because cases can be made each time they won the championship that someone else was the alpha and/or pileup of injuries by his opposition. However, you are the one that said 'he is just another shooter'...your words not mine. as the late great pussyface would say 'that is worthy of some serious ridicule'...

tl;dr I'll revise what I said to you in that other thread. I don't think you should kill yourself but you may want to look into/research the possibility of ending your life

[spurs10]

Agreed. Clips are still in excellent shape. Glad you see things clearly breh! Not sure if you're serious, but don't bet your house on it.

[Rummpd]

you said he is just "one of many shooters" as in he's a dime a dozen. I always like to think that I evaluate posts unbiasedly.....as in I (and pretty much everyone on the forum) knows that you're a grade A dimwit, but I will still take your posts seriously. That being said the guy literally changed the way the NBA was played.....i.e. extended the defense to where you now have to guard 25+ feet out because any good shooter nowadays can pull up quickly from that range and make it at a decent clip. and guess who started that trend? any other era if you try to pull something like that and miss, you'll find yourself on the bench the rest of the game

now I do think you can make an argument that Curry may be lacking as a leader because cases can be made each time they won the championship that someone else was the alpha and/or pileup of injuries by his opposition. However, you are the one that said 'he is just another shooter'...your words not mine. as the late great pussyface would say 'that is worthy of some serious ridicule'...

tl;dr I'll revise what I said to you in that other thread. I don't think you should kill yourself but you may want to look into/research the possibility of ending your life

Listen i am a basketball official and have forgot more about the game then you will ever know.
So as a great mentor said - "don't argue with the ignorant who do not know the game like you". So I will not.

[MultiTroll]

Not sure about ClipperRefs

#14 for LAC should have gotten an and 1 a few minutes earlier

It’s just that Mauer needs to retire
Didn't see whole game but this is criminal.
1408996535455469570
Also posted on Suns Clippers thread if any want to discuss there.

What in the hell? And i was pulling for Suns.

[illmatic]

Didn't see whole game but this is criminal.
1408996535455469570
Also posted on Suns Clippers thread if any want to discuss there.

What in the hell? And i was pulling for Suns.

It's been terrible in both directions. How about fouling booker out of the game when Jackson clearly fouled him before he ran into Beverly?

[MultiTroll]

It's been terrible in both directions. How about fouling booker out of the game when Jackson clearly fouled him before he ran into Beverly?
Shady. But the above was with 7 seconds left and Phx only ahead by one. It literally decided the outcome (I mean from that point in time on)

To not review that....wow blatant.

[Isitjustme?]

Trae with more of his unwatchable, foul drawing bullshit

[Isitjustme?]

Now Trae crying because he clumsily stepped on an official who was standing still and out of bounds. this guy is great but man is he hard to watch

[Isitjustme?]

Trae going to the locker room...looking for Paul Pierce's wheelchair most likely

[davethedope]

These dudes and their little ankle twists... I mean is it just me??? In my day we used to rollerblade and we twisted and rolled our ankles a few times a day every weekend for years and we LIKED IT!!!

Seriously I musta sprained my ankle like 100 times

[Isitjustme?]

Pat Connaughton has been great for them with hustle plays today

[baseline bum]

Listen i am a basketball official and have forgot more about the game then you will ever know.
So as a great mentor said - "don't argue with the ignorant who do not know the game like you". So I will not.

This is great, I'm going to have to use this line in the future when I'm getting Bernoull'ed in a thread tbh

[DMC]

Bucks are dominant on the offensive glass. This is Atlanta's Achilles Heel. (pronounced ay cha lees)

[DMC]

Just imagine we had the Nets still playing. Instead of a team having 14 FTA at the end of the game we'd have one person with 28.

[D-Wade]

Refs injured Trae and Mid bailed Giannis out.

[davethedope]

I resent the off-color irregular uniform bs... the bucks should not be in blue

[lefty]

:lmao at people who mention Trae in the same breath as Steph

[davethedope]

:lmao at people who mention Trae in the same breath as Steph

It's not obvious to you he's like 10000000x better than Curry that choke artist?

[lefty]

I resent the off-color irregular uniform bs... the bucks should not be in blue
agreed

[lefty]

It's not obvious to you he's like 10000000x better than Curry that choke artist?

Curry IS a choke artist in the Finals

But he’s also a better player and shooter than Hairy lollipop

[DMC]

Curry IS a choke artist in the Finals

But he’s also a better player and shooter than Hairy lollipop

He's a better shooter than anyone who ever played but he's a one way player. Most of these people are hero ballers, one way players. This is why a player like Kawhi is ranked so high and Lebron is still at the top of his game. No one else plays defense now.

[MultiTroll]

Nooo I'm not blaming the game on it but was Traes self inflicted ankle twist a major turning point?

Watched off n on thru 3 quarters. I missed the 4th. Looks like ATL went to shit while Bucks pulled away.

[Neo.]

These dudes and their little ankle twists... I mean is it just me??? In my day we used to rollerblade and we twisted and rolled our ankles a few times a day every weekend for years and we LIKED IT!!!

Seriously I musta sprained my ankle like 100 times

If you were so bad at skating that you rolled your ankle several times a day each weekend and enjoyed it, then you can't be good at anything else in life or have serious issues understanding how to find joy and therefore should seriously consider the viability of suicide

[Neo.]

He's a better shooter than anyone who ever played but he's a one way player. Most of these people are hero ballers, one way players. This is why a player like Kawhi is ranked so high and Lebron is still at the top of his game. No one else plays defense now.

is this any different than how it's generally been? most stars never were truly great two way players, only a few in each era really stood out at both ends, while most were offensively oriented.

[Texas_Ranger]

He's a better shooter than anyone who ever played but he's a one way player. Most of these people are hero ballers, one way players. This is why a player like Kawhi is ranked so high and Lebron is still at the top of his game. No one else plays defense now.

Kawhi and Lebron havent played defense in years.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/Original_Gio/status/1409368121614508037?s=19

:wow

[LkrFan]

Kawhi and Lebron havent played defense in years.

False. Bron has played defense since AD has been onboard. When AD was out all that time this season, Bron led the Lakers to the #1 defensive rating.

His first year with the Lakers, sure, but now? No.

[Isitjustme?]

Refs injured Trae and Mid bailed Giannis out.

The ref was literally standing out of bounds and motionless.

[spurraider21]

Pat Connaughton has been great for them with hustle plays today
lunch pail kinda guy. scrappy, high basketball iq. more quick than fast. gritty. he's like another coach on the floor. does all the things that dont show up on the box score. first one in the gym, last one out. pesky defense, high motor guy. knows how to play the game the right way. good locker room presence. and a consummate professional who knows how to handle himself.

[Chris Fall]

lunch pail kinda guy. scrappy, high basketball iq. more quick than fast. gritty. he's like another coach on the floor. does all the things that dont show up on the box score. first one in the gym, last one out. pesky defense, high motor guy. knows how to play the game the right way. good locker room presence. and a consummate professional who knows how to handle himself.

Jeez, is he aware of your feelings? Has he swiped right yet?

[spurraider21]

Jeez, is he aware of your feelings? Has he swiped right yet?
https://media3.giphy.com/media/9eLbjOcGOpmY8/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bew5uxnwwx2hs66wb04akieh43ei92 bjl1rhq3zbr&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

[Kim Jong-il]

lunch pail kinda guy. scrappy, high basketball iq. more quick than fast. gritty. he's like another coach on the floor. does all the things that dont show up on the box score. first one in the gym, last one out. pesky defense, high motor guy. knows how to play the game the right way. good locker room presence. and a consummate professional who knows how to handle himself.
sneaky athletic and a real gamer tbh

[DMC]

Kawhi and Lebron havent played defense in years.

Kawhi on the NBA All Defense 2nd team. Simmons is on the 1st team.

[DMC]

lunch pail kinda guy. scrappy, high basketball iq. more quick than fast. gritty. he's like another coach on the floor. does all the things that dont show up on the box score. first one in the gym, last one out. pesky defense, high motor guy. knows how to play the game the right way. good locker room presence. and a consummate professional who knows how to handle himself.

His dick enters the room 10 minutes before he does.

[Texas_Ranger]

Kawhi on the NBA All Defense 2nd team. Simmons is on the 1st team.

giannis was also on all defense team, but didnt have the balls guarding Durant for a second in the series. Kawhi also wasnt on Doncic that much and even when he was, he didnt do shit.

[LkrFan]

The jig is up on Nephew
https://twitter.com/TomerAzarly/status/1409673294173769730?s=19

Ballmer's media has turned on him :wow

[Mr. Body]

ESPN was desperate to get Kawhi to LA, now theyre not sure what to do.

[spursreport]

Game over! Onto game 6. This Clipper team is truly special. Kawhi has really lit a fire under this team. They are winning for their leader and he is pushing everyone.

[davethedope]

ESPN was desperate to get Kawhi to LA, now theyre not sure what to do.

Yeah that fucking pissed me off too. What a waste of a team. They should be in San Diego, Seattle or Pittsburgh

[DMC]

giannis was also on all defense team, but didnt have the balls guarding Durant for a second in the series. Kawhi also wasnt on Doncic that much and even when he was, he didnt do shit.

Pointing out a defensive lapse doesn't equate to not playing defense all season.

[MultiTroll]

Croewder obvious tech.

This one is over. Clippers should just tank the final 4 minutes and get ready for Game 6.

[DMC]

https://i.imgur.com/wPxSzkU.jpg

[Mitch]

Just two games Thread and this nightmare is over :lol

[ducks]

The LA Clippers are trailing the Phoenix Suns 3-2 in the series, but are beating them 519-502 in overall points. A bizarre series.

[Thread]

Just two games Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320) and this nightmare is over :lol

I'm a more than a bit conflicted, Mitch. The older I get the softer I seem to be getting. When you want something as bad as these Suns fans want this it's difficult to not be affected. (We've) been there. I wanted that one in '10 so damn badly. I thought I'd die if we didn't get it. It's still like a dream sometimes. Thne afterward with Artest holding that emotional news conference; his entire family was there, his mom and dad, his wife and children and he came clean if front of the entire company, no advance warning to Media, no set up, just rang and took to that microphone. He recovered himself that night on that podium for all his transgressions. He was contrite and compact. I never saw it comin'. I'll never forget it.

I suppose I want the Suns fans to experience that feeling. The hate is draining from me. Win or lose I'll never do the O & __ again as long as I live.

In times of real life when it kicks you down and leaves you helpless I always think of the championships: the look on Kobe's face as the end came into view in '10. He was so frightened and desperate to have it just be over. No game face then as it came down to it. And Daddy there vs. Indiana, in the immediate aftermath coming to the restraining ropes and looking for his father with that terrified look on his face. If he hadn't rung there Media woulda went after him with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. The Media was merciless then. Took all the joy out of it for me. I just settled back into the Lazy Boy and rested. It was too much. And Kupchak in the Boston Garden after it was finally all over. He's in tears, his knee is shackled and Bertka is by his side. "Tell 'em what I told you."

"I'm still 6'10, 240."

These moments warm and help me get past another day, another crisis as the girl and I grow older. I cannot imagine going thru 52 years without having an NBA title in my possession. I know these guys, have fought with them since the Internet came on-line. I know just a fraction of what they're going thru and it haunts me and has changed me, Mitch. It's inexplicable, and I know how it must sound, but I can't help myself. They are so close to what (((they need))), and they need it so damn bad. I already have had that need sated. I'd like to see them win the last game they play.

[Mitch]

I'm a more than a bit conflicted, Mitch. The older I get the softer I seem to be getting. When you want something as bad as these Suns fans want this it's difficult to not be affected. (We've) been there. I wanted that one in '10 so damn badly. I thought I'd die if we didn't get it. It's still like a dream sometimes. Thne afterward with Artest holding that emotional news conference; his entire family was there, his mom and dad, his wife and children and he came clean if front of the entire company, no advance warning to Media, no set up, just rang and took to that microphone. He recovered himself that night on that podium for all his transgressions. He was contrite and compact. I never saw it comin'. I'll never forget it.

I suppose I want the Suns fans to experience that feeling. The hate is draining from me. Win or lose I'll never do the O & __ again as long as I live.

In times of real life when it kicks you down and leaves you helpless I always think of the championships: the look on Kobe's face as the end came into view in '10. He was so frightened and desperate to have it just be over. No game face then as it came down to it. And Daddy there vs. Indiana, in the immediate aftermath coming to the restraining ropes and looking for his father with that terrified look on his face. If he hadn't rung there Media woulda went after him with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. The Media was merciless then. Took all the joy out of it for me. I just settled back into the Lazy Boy and rested. It was too much. And Kupchak in the Boston Garden after it was finally all over. He's in tears, his knee is shackled and Bertka is by his side. "Tell 'em what I told you."

"I'm still 6'10, 240."

These moments warm and help me get past another day, another crisis as the girl and I grow older. I cannot imagine going thru 52 years without having an NBA title in my possession. I know these guys, have fought with them since the Internet came on-line. I know just a fraction of what they're going thru and it haunts me and has changed me, Mitch. It's inexplicable, and I know how it must sound, but I can't help myself. They are so close to what (((they need))), and they need it so damn bad. I already have had that need sated. I'd like to see them win the last game they play.

C'mon cub...

one more for the road...

O & forever

[Thread]

C'mon cub...

one more for the road...

O & forever

No, I'm going to take it up to the Wells Fargo and put it in the safe deposit box. "Sir, you can't bring that in here."

"Let me speak to your manager. And where's the free water?"

Leave it in there then after I die the children can take it out and do with it what they want..."Where's the money?"

"Just this GD O & fuckin' thing. What the fuck, that old man didn't leave us anything but that?"

"And these keys to his '87 Cadillac."

"That fuckin' thing hasn't passed emissions the last 5 years he drove it. Look again, turn it over. That Caddy is sinking in the back fuckin' yard."

"I did, just the O &, the keys and a love letter to mother from when they was in the 9th grade.

"What's it say?"

[[["Dear Girl,

I love you. Do you love me? I love you."

Love always,

Dale

P.S., I love you."]]]

"Yep, that sounds like the old man."

"Wait, a fuckin' second,,,oh, shit a Nemo Cake is stuck in the corner of this box and has turned to rock."

[Mitch]

:lol

[Robz4000]

:lol some prime Cubby in this thread

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/JeritRoser/status/1409716479621144576?s=19

:lol

[Neo.]

its funny how so many of the same people who are upset by the game being "sissified" were appalled at how the league was full of "thugs" that just wanted to fight and ruin the game of basketball and needed to be cleaned up

[TDfan2007]

its funny how so many of the same people who are upset by the game being "sissified" were appalled at how the league was full of "thugs" that just wanted to fight and ruin the game of basketball and needed to be cleaned up

You can have both opinions and be consistent. There's a happy medium between the flagrant-happy whistles that we have now and the goon tactics of the late 80s/90s

[Neo.]

You can have both opinions and be consistent. There's a happy medium between the flagrant-happy whistles that we have now and the goon tactics of the late 80s/90s

or maybe neither of them are/were as bad as people think

theres always been cheap/weak flagrants called, the biggest difference now is theres video review

and people didnt just fight and clothesline everyone endlessly in the 80s and 90s as some like to suggest

[Texas_Ranger]

young out for game 4.

[davethedope]

The league should hang it's head this garbage content and weak fragile stars, that first quarter I've seen JHSers play better

[MultiTroll]

Freak and Lopez producing all kinds of kick out wide open shots. All the Bucks could recruit are Brickington and Bryn Bryn Forms to clank wide open 3s?

Pathetic.

[MultiTroll]

The league should hang it's head this garbage content and weak fragile stars, that first quarter I've seen JHSers play better
and yet upstairs you have a fair amount of slurpers clammoring for Budovich to come back as a HC.

[ambchang]

How in the world did these teams make the conference finals? It’s unbelievable.

[davethedope]

and yet upstairs you have a fair amount of slurpers clammoring for Budovich to come back as a HC.

We're shooting air ball free throws and three pointers everybody:downspin::king 38 point first half, your 2021 NBA Champion Bucks

[Isitjustme?]

Man, that Giannis hyperextension was hard to look at.

[ducks]

Could it be the year for the suns ?
No they will choke like usually

[JamStone]

Just turned on the game.

So are the Hawks just a better team without Trae>Curry+Doncic?

[Neo.]

lol trae making lou look like an all-nba defender

[lefty]

:lol Adam Silver
:lol they warned him

[DMC]

Fate parting the seas for the Suns/Clippers. Suns/Clippers stopping to piss in the sand.

[MultiTroll]

Just turned on the game.

So are the Hawks just a better team without Trae>Curry+Doncic?
Bucks guard combo of Jrue, Bryn Bryn and Conaughton are like 28% FGs and 18% treys. Meanwhile Hawks shooters are nailing them.
That's pretty much it. You're already up to date on Freak being out.

[Neo.]

We're shooting air ball free throws and three pointers everybody:downspin::king 38 point first half, your 2021 NBA Champion Bucks

lol a three peat team in the 90s had a superstar known for doing stuff like that

[DMC]

That hyperextended knee looked ugly as fuck. Hope he recovers. One of the only NBAers I still like.

[Robz4000]

Suns better find a way to win tomorrow, otherwise Nephew gonna win another ring*.

[Dirks_Finale]

Any word on Kawhitter's status?

And that Giannis injury was ugly as hell. If he did not rip a ligament then he is truly an uber man with rubber knees.

Hawks vs Suns in the Finals. OMG - Trae Finals MVP lefty :lol

[TDfan2007]

or maybe neither of them are/were as bad as people think

theres always been cheap/weak flagrants called, the biggest difference now is theres video review

and people didnt just fight and clothesline everyone endlessly in the 80s and 90s as some like to suggest

Agreed that the 80s/90s aren't as tough as we are led to believe, but the game today is definitely softer, and tbh it's mainly on the perimeter/with perimeter players.

I'd actually argue that post play was called tighter back then. You can do anything short of shanking a guy on the block now, but if you hit a guy's face while contesting a jumper, it's a flagrant :lol

[Neo.]

Agreed that the 80s/90s aren't as tough as we are led to believe, but the game today is definitely softer, and tbh it's mainly on the perimeter/with perimeter players.

I'd actually argue that post play was called tighter back then. You can do anything short of shanking a guy on the block now, but if you hit a guy's face while contesting a jumper, it's a flagrant :lol

yeah theres definitely an imbalance of how things are called. they have to fix up some of the rules and get the officials to be more consistent with the calls that are made. the inconsistency is maddening.

[lefty]

Any word on Kawhitter's status?

And that Giannis injury was ugly as hell. If he did not rip a ligament then he is truly an uber man with rubber knees.

Hawks vs Suns in the Finals. OMG - Trae Finals MVP lefty :lol
Honestly I’m looking forward to superstar less Finals

Media always bombard us with Superstar vs Superstar, and it’s a team game

But yeah, if Hairy Lollipop wins Finals MVP :lol

:lol at Adam Silverberg though, not only it’s a $$$ nightmare for the NBA, but players warned him repeatedly about not starting a new season so soon

[Dirks_Finale]

Honestly I’m looking forward to superstar less Finals

Media always bombard us with Superstar vs Superstar, and it’s a team game

But yeah, if Hairy Lollipop wins Finals MVP :lol

:lol at Adam Silverberg though, not only it’s a $$$ nightmare for the NBA, but players warned him repeatedly about not starting a new season so soon

:lol

[MultiTroll]

lol a three peat team in the 90s had a superstar known for doing stuff like that
No Numby the Flamers did not win or be gifted a championship in the 1990s.

[MultiTroll]

Ballhog CP0 must have been ordered to get the ball to Ayton.
:clap

[MultiTroll]

Crowder easy to get in his head.

Was kind of weird how Batum seemed to be wanting to help him up. Guess in a way that is good to see.

[baseline bum]

Don't think that looks like a flagrant

[MultiTroll]

Unintentional flagrant imo. I do think Ugly was going for the ball.

Hits his head and ball at the same time.
Reckless.
You don't get to do a full wind up head rap and have it dismissed because you were going for the ball.

[davethedope]

Unintentional flagrant imo. I do think Ugly was going for the ball.

Hits his head and ball at the same time.
Reckless.
You don't get to do a full wind up head rap and have it dismissed because you were going for the ball.

Looking like they might need all the breaks they can get tonight. HQ called in and said it's looking like a Pandemic Pete night, better lets Pat Bev go wild

[MultiTroll]

Clippers used ball movement instead of Cementhead CP0 choking the game way.

Phx in Finals!

:rollin Paul George going to suck down 40 million a year for 4 more years.

[MultiTroll]

Clipps in decent shape to make a comeback after 10-0 run:

1. Defensive mix up allow a wide open CPO trey.
2. Pee with an idiotic obvious offensive foul on Booker.

[MultiTroll]

:lmao Are the Clippers throwing the spread?

At least try to make it look like fake defense.

[lefty]

CP0 shitting on the haters and raping the Clappers

[DMC]

det FT disparity though

Clipper ref going HAM

[lefty]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/bleacherreport/status/1410387290069737475

[baseline bum]

Bitch ass move from Beverley. Still, would have loved that homeless looking nigga on the Spurs in the Bowen/Horry role 5-6 years ago.

[KaiRMD1]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/bleacherreport/status/1410387290069737475

I like how Kawhi basically told the Clippers "I'm not playing unless ya'll get me to the finals" LMFAO!!!!!!! God Clippers are such shit

[MultiTroll]

Smart ass Suns leaving all the starters in.
I didn't see the Beverly shot and if it was a cheapie i iin no way endorse.
OTOH CPO doing his Bonner stat padding shit, i'd call for a flattening of his ass.

No question who i want in the Finals.

[Isitjustme?]

I was counting on those Clippers just in case the Suns would rise.

Come ta pappy.

~Pappy

https://arizonasports.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/chris-paul-suns-phoenix-training-camp-devin-booker.jpg

[Thread]

Come ta pappy.

~Pappy

https://arizonasports.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/chris-paul-suns-phoenix-training-camp-devin-booker.jpg

I'm Pappy. MePERIOD

[timtonymanu]

Clips gave another one away, but they’ll be fine. Team of destiny. Kawhi’s recent rants will only fire up the team. I LOVE this man as a leader. The team fucked around today, but they’ll be fine. This is their championship to lose.

They will win game 7 and 8

[InRareForm]

Suns fans been waiting for this since jo Johnson spurs series

[LaMarcus Bryant]

So refreshing seeing Choke Paul go SSJ against another team but ours.

Also it's great seeing another spurs legacy enemy get validated, only makes the Duncan era look more incredible objectively :tu :tu

[baseline bum]

Suns fans been waiting for this since jo Johnson spurs series

They're gonna get some nice rest at least too with the ECF 2-2.

[illmatic]

Suns fans been waiting for this since jo Johnson spurs series

Longer than that

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Bitch ass move from Beverley. Still, would have loved that homeless looking nigga on the Spurs in the Bowen/Horry role 5-6 years ago.

Roflllll fr fr

[Isitjustme?]

I'm Pappy. MePERIOD

I am your pappy this year.

https://i.imgur.com/suMPfEB.jpg

~Pappy

[timtonymanu]

What if the Rockets had more balls to trade Harden back then instead of Chris Paul? Looking like the smarter move overall now.

[Mr. Body]

What if the Rockets had more balls to trade Harden back then instead of Chris Paul? Looking like the smarter move overall now.

Harden is a playoff choker, but Paul wouldn't be here unless all the best opposing players got hurt.

[da_suns_fan]

Harden is a playoff choker, but Paul wouldn't be here unless all the best opposing players got hurt.

Jazz lost to the same Clippers team.

Blazers lost to the same Nuggets team.

Warriors lost to the same Lakers team.

[baseline bum]

Harden is a playoff choker, but Paul wouldn't be here unless all the best opposing players got hurt.

Disagree, Phoenix has looked like the best team in the league all year. Only team I wouldnt pick them over in a series playing at 100% health was Brooklyn, but not their fault Harden wanted to be a lazy fatass to try to force Houston's hand in trading him.

[Capt Bringdown]

Vs Clips, save for the last game, the Suns played better without Paul on the court, especially with pace.
If I were a Suns fan, I would worry about Paul playing hero-ball in the finals.

[Texas_Ranger]

giannis out tonight. one of the worst playoffs in history, especially in the east.

[lefty]

Vs Clips, save for the last game, the Suns played better without Paul on the court, especially with pace.
If I were a Suns fan, I would worry about Paul playing hero-ball in the finals.

Suns wouldn’t be in the Finals without Paul

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/nfalefa/status/1410446971433742337

[Texas_Ranger]

trae young also out tonight. Still, should be an easy win.

[Robz4000]

Bucks obliterating the Hawks right now.

[Robz4000]

Bucks' inability to hit an outside shot keeping the Hawks in it now.

[Robz4000]

Seen enough of this game. Hawks will eventually take the lead and pull away imo. Bucks are such a low IQ team.

[Robz4000]

:lmao Bucks

[davethedope]

They still have to give the Bucks calls to keep the lead... incredible

[Capt Bringdown]

Like men vs boys out there.

[Neo.]

despite some flaws with outside shooting, milwaukee has a really well rounded basketball team. this should be a really good finals matchup between them and phoenix.

[Capt Bringdown]

despite some flaws with outside shooting, milwaukee has a really well rounded basketball team. this should be a really good finals matchup between them and phoenix.

No doubt, but as many have said, they often play stupid. If they remember to attack the paint, they should ring easily against the Suns.
They are the last team standing that can score easily in the paint.

[Robz4000]

Good shit by the Bucks to keep attacking the paint. Bucks vs Suns will be interesting provided Antetokounmpo can come back.

[Capt Bringdown]

Good shit by the Bucks to keep attacking the paint. Bucks vs Suns will be interesting provided Antetokounmpo can come back.

If they play like they did tonight, they will beat the Suns sans the freak.

[DMC]

:lmao Bucks

eh...heh

[Robz4000]

If they play like they did tonight, they will beat the Suns sans the freak.

Eh, I'd take the Suns in 5 tbh. Unlike the Hawks they're an elite defensive team on top of an elite offensive one.

[Isitjustme?]

https://i.redd.it/b9esa6i3tp871.png

lmao

[Texas_Ranger]

This was probably the best game the bucks played the whole year. If they could play like this more often id actually think they could be champs. Sucks that they ll probably play like shit the next game.

[Dirks_Finale]

This was probably the best game the bucks played the whole year. If they could play like this more often id actually think they could be champs. Sucks that they ll probably play like shit the next game.

If they get Giannis back by GM 7 they are good.

Looking forward to a Finals matchup with different names this year.

And Giannis is a damn cyborg. He's the antithesis of Kawhi.

[Chris Fall]

It's weird how some of these teams have performed better without their stars for at least a game. Clippers played a few good games without Kawhi. Suns without CP3. Hawks blowout Bucks without Trae. Bucks return the favor without Freak. It's almost as if the pressure is a little off, role players don't think too much and just play, and certain guys get comfortable with more responsibility on offense. There's an argument that both the Hawks and Bucks play better as a team without their respective stars. Issue is that when things don't go well, shots don't fall, they don't have that one guy to take over when no one else can and put the team on his back.

But in a way, it's more enjoyable than watching Trae draw hip fouls 40 feet from the basket and chuck logo threes every few possessions or watching Freak take two steps from halfcourt, elbows up clearing dudes grills, and pretending he's a graceful ballerina on his way to the hoop.

[lefty]

But in a way, it's more enjoyable than watching Trae draw hip fouls 40 feet from the basket and chuck logo threes every few possessions or watching Freak take two steps from halfcourt, elbows up clearing dudes grills, and pretending he's a graceful ballerina on his way to the hoop.

True true

[MultiTroll]

Suns wouldn’t be in the Finals without Paul
Won easily in Game 1.

Other then his Bonner stat padding in the 4th qtr of the last game he was his usual dribble dribble dribble ball hog pedestrian self.
Save the super bogus call to gift them Game 4 and series could well be Clippers.

He may be able to coatail the Suns to a ring but i think it ends his first ever trip.

[Thread]

Won easily in Game 1.

Other then his Bonner stat padding in the 4th qtr of the last game he was his usual dribble dribble dribble ball hog pedestrian self.
Save the super bogus call to gift them Game 4 and series could well be Clippers.

He may be able to coatail the Suns to a ring but i think it ends his first ever trip.

...and that will be the interesting part...if Paul is in for the remainder of his career; if he'll come here, make a homestead, vest himself in home & not hearth, but heart. He'll need Sarver to meet him half-way, give-OR-take a portion. Lengthen the contract, ease the monetary hit. Is Sarver willing to, with both hands dig into that Sarver Personal Boodle not only for Paul, but for a wide variety of deserving people? & not grudge it, but actually give up money as a gesture of selflessness, in broad daylight without wincing and living then in regret? Or, will Sarver hog it, smile at the cameras then hustle into his pesonal study, lock the door behind him and bring his fortune up on the Internet?

[Jeremy]

Vs Clips, save for the last game, the Suns played better without Paul on the court, especially with pace.
If I were a Suns fan, I would worry about Paul playing hero-ball in the finals.

That's because he wasn't healthy. He was coming back from Covid and Clippers broke his hand/fingers/wrist in Game 3.

[lefty]

Paul had 0 turnovers in game 6 and people are still hating on him :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Paul had 0 turnovers in game 6 and people are still hating on him :lol

IKR, time to give the guy credit. He was the leader of a team going to the Finals and likely going to ring. Put some respeck on his name already.

[Rosewood]

Paul had 0 turnovers in game 6 and people are still hating on him :lol Little point guards always get hated on man. IT and AI got plastered constantly by media, fans and even other players alike.

If CP3 rings this year, he's third PG ever behind Magic and Isaiah. Oscar being fourth, Stockton being fifth.

No one is even close to Magic though. Might be the most lopsided best and second best of any position in the NBA tbh lol.

[JamStone]

Little point guards always get hated on man. IT and AI got plastered constantly by media, fans and even other players alike.

If CP3 rings this year, he's third PG ever behind Magic and Isaiah. Oscar being fourth, Stockton being fifth.

No one is even close to Magic though. Might be the most lopsided best and second best of any position in the NBA tbh lol.

That’s an interesting proposition.

Although Oscar is often viewed as a top 10 caliber guy himself, while I think Zeke isn’t even considered top 20-25 to a lot of people. It’s a shame for those who didn’t really get to appreciate him the way Detroit fans did. He was basically a faster, better scoring mini version of Magic. Just watched that Bad Boys 30 for 30 again last night and relived some of those years, including that 25 point third quarter in game 6 of 1988 while he had a sprained ankle.

As for that proposition... small forward maybe?

I’m not even sure who would be third behind LeBron, Bird. Is it Dr. J? Durant? Elgin? Hondo? Guess it would depend whom you thought was third and how close you think he is to Bird.

[Dirks_Finale]

That’s an interesting proposition.

Although Oscar is often viewed as a top 10 caliber guy himself, while I think Zeke isn’t even considered top 20-25 to a lot of people. It’s a shame for those who didn’t really get to appreciate him the way Detroit fans did. He was basically a faster, better scoring mini version of Magic. Just watched that Bad Boys 30 for 30 again last night and relived some of those years, including that 25 point third quarter in game 6 of 1988 while he had a sprained ankle.

As for that proposition... small forward maybe?

I’m not even sure who would be third behind LeBron, Bird. Is it Dr. J? Durant? Elgin? Hondo? Guess it would depend whom you thought was third and how close you think he is to Bird.

Zeke is definitely underrated. The whole walking off the court in the Bulls series probably did him in in that regard, unfortunately. This guy was as tough and fearless as Iverson but with a much higher basketball IQ and leadership skills.

[JamStone]

Zeke is definitely underrated. The whole walking off the court in the Bulls series probably did him in in that regard, unfortunately. This guy was as tough and fearless as Iverson but with a much higher basketball IQ and leadership skills.

It’s also media and fan overblown.

It was a little glossed over in the 30 for 30 but not overlooked by Pistons fans. But when the Pistons finally got over on the Celtics in 88, the Celtics all walked off the court also with time left on the clock. However, there’s video of McHale shaking hands with Isiah so somehow that is remembered instead of Bird and the rest of the cast not shaking hands and just walking off. And Isiah even said, at that moment, they weren’t offended that the Celtics had walked off. They were like, oh shit, did we finally just beat them? But Jordan’s thin skinned bitchass had to feel all insulted over the same shit Larry had done because it was Isiah and the Bad Boys, and NOT video’d or at least not brought to attention was that Joe Dumars did trail behind and shake some of the Bulls players hands, just like McHale did. Shit got twisted because the Pistons were national villains.

So telling how the media shaped the perception of those two similar events.

[lefty]

It’s also media and fan overblown.

It was a little glossed over in the 30 for 30 but not overlooked by Pistons fans. But when the Pistons finally got over on the Celtics in 88, the Celtics all walked off the court also with time left on the clock. However, there’s video of McHale shaking hands with Isiah so somehow that is remembered instead of Bird and the rest of the cast not shaking hands and just walking off. And Isiah even said, at that moment, they weren’t offended that the Celtics had walked off. They were like, oh shit, did we finally just beat them? But Jordan’s thin skinned bitchass had to feel all insulted over the same shit Larry had done because it was Isiah and the Bad Boys, and NOT video’d or at least not brought to attention was that Joe Dumars did trail behind and shake some of the Bulls players hands, just like McHale did. Shit got twisted because the Pistons were national villains.

So telling how the media shaped the perception of those two similar events.

Not to mention the Pistons walked off because the Bulls criticized the Pistons between games 3 and 4
I’m sure Isiah and Co wouldn’t have walked off if the Bulls kept their mouth shut

[Dirks_Finale]

It’s also media and fan overblown.

It was a little glossed over in the 30 for 30 but not overlooked by Pistons fans. But when the Pistons finally got over on the Celtics in 88, the Celtics all walked off the court also with time left on the clock. However, there’s video of McHale shaking hands with Isiah so somehow that is remembered instead of Bird and the rest of the cast not shaking hands and just walking off. And Isiah even said, at that moment, they weren’t offended that the Celtics had walked off. They were like, oh shit, did we finally just beat them? But Jordan’s thin skinned bitchass had to feel all insulted over the same shit Larry had done because it was Isiah and the Bad Boys, and NOT video’d or at least not brought to attention was that Joe Dumars did trail behind and shake some of the Bulls players hands, just like McHale did. Shit got twisted because the Pistons were national villains.

So telling how the media shaped the perception of those two similar events.

Yup, pretty much this.

[Texas_Ranger]

giannis out.

[JamStone]

Not to mention the Pistons walked off because the Bulls criticized the Pistons between games 3 and 4
I’m sure Isiah and Co wouldn’t have walked off if the Bulls kept their mouth shut

Thank you. Specifically it was Michael. He was publicly quoted saying the Pistons were bad for basketball. And everyone outside of Detroit would be happy when they were gone. You put those thoughts out there in the media and then bitch and whine about their bad sportsmanship. Yeah okay... But the media was all too happy to oblige his Airness.

Funny though, in reality, as great as Jordan was, it was he who likely ruined basketball more than the Bad Boys. Kids all around the country started playing blackhole, midpost iso trying to be Like Mike. It was the slow death of team basketball. Because of Michael.

[Rosewood]

That’s an interesting proposition.

Although Oscar is often viewed as a top 10 caliber guy himself, while I think Zeke isn’t even considered top 20-25 to a lot of people. It’s a shame for those who didn’t really get to appreciate him the way Detroit fans did. He was basically a faster, better scoring mini version of Magic. Just watched that Bad Boys 30 for 30 again last night and relived some of those years, including that 25 point third quarter in game 6 of 1988 while he had a sprained ankle.

As for that proposition... small forward maybe?

I’m not even sure who would be third behind LeBron, Bird. Is it Dr. J? Durant? Elgin? Hondo? Guess it would depend whom you thought was third and how close you think he is to Bird. I think IT is clearly better than Oscar, and played against much tougher competition. Showtime Lakers, Prime Jordan, Bird/McHale Celtics. People just hate Pistons for Street balling on diva stars like Jordan and Bird (who are both all time greats)

Birds career was cut very short by injuries. I think him and Lebron are really close, all era bias aside. I think LeBron is great but his image will be very different 10 years down the line. Third would be Dr J without question. A lot of folks I know would put him above Larry or Lebron tbh. Think it's a much tighter top 3 than PG. Durant is admittedly an all time great scorer but dude can't win without making unfair competition within the NBA due to this stupid fucking superteam trend. But that can also take a point away from Bron too so idk.

Duncan/Barkley/Malone can be looked at too, because Duncan was so much more successful, but skill wise it was close. Esp Barkley. He's so underappreciated.

[lefty]

Thank you. Specifically it was Michael. He was publicly quoted saying the Pistons were bad for basketball. And everyone outside of Detroit would be happy when they were gone. You put those thoughts out there in the media and then bitch and whine about their bad sportsmanship. Yeah okay... But the media was all too happy to oblige his Airness.

Funny though, in reality, as great as Jordan was, it was he who likely ruined basketball more than the Bad Boys. Kids all around the country started playing blackhole, midpost iso trying to be Like Mike. It was the slow death of team basketball. Because of Michael.

Exactly

People are saying there was a lot of iso ballers back then because of the rules (no zone D) but Magic and Bird - who were talented enough to average 30 ppg - played in the no zone D era and were team 1st players. (James Worthy is another player who strikes me as an unselfish superstar, underrated)
They just had the right mindset so no excuse for Jordan

Jordan was a ballhog and inspired future ballhogs

[Rosewood]

Exactly

People are saying there was a lot of iso ballers back then because of the rules (no zone D) but Magic and Bird - who were talented enough to average 30 ppg - played in the no zone D era and were team 1st players. (James Worthy is another player who strikes me as an unselfish superstar, underrated)
They just had the right mindset so no excuse for Jordan

Jordan was a ballhog and inspired future ballhogs you're right but he was excellent at it and won 6 titles. What exactly is your point? Or is this another roundabout way of saying a fringe Top 10 player in LeBron is somehow better than a lock for top 3 player because that apparently is your shtick.

[Dirks_Finale]

you're right but he was excellent at it and won 6 titles. What exactly is your point? Or is this another roundabout way of saying a fringe Top 10 player in LeBron is somehow better than a lock for top 3 player because that apparently is your shtick.

I am trying to get him to acknowledge that he was, indeed, a Ewing, Reggie Miller or Karl Malone fan in the 90's.

Just come clean lefty it will help start the healing process :lol

[Rosewood]

I am trying to get him to acknowledge that he was, indeed, a Ewing, Reggie Miller or Karl Malone fan in the 90's.

Just come clean lefty it will help start the healing process :lol :lol Those 3 were good players though. Reggie is very underrated amongst young dudes.

[Texas_Ranger]

Bucks gonna choke. Jrue holiday is such a bad player.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Scrub Reddish looking like Steph Curry out there.

[Kim Jong-il]

Such low IQ basketball :lol Suns gonna destroy whoever wins this

Capela out, Lopez in, and the Bucks shoot a bunch of pullup 3’s :lmao

[davethedope]

Garbage shit content... I'll watch but it doesn't matter, over time more people will lose interest in this shit.

[lefty]

:lol TNT interviewer : “coach Bud this team is taking you to the Finals”

Damn

[baseline bum]

I think IT is clearly better than Oscar, and played against much tougher competition. Showtime Lakers, Prime Jordan, Bird/McHale Celtics. People just hate Pistons for Street balling on diva stars like Jordan and Bird (who are both all time greats)

Birds career was cut very short by injuries. I think him and Lebron are really close, all era bias aside. I think LeBron is great but his image will be very different 10 years down the line. Third would be Dr J without question. A lot of folks I know would put him above Larry or Lebron tbh. Think it's a much tighter top 3 than PG. Durant is admittedly an all time great scorer but dude can't win without making unfair competition within the NBA due to this stupid fucking superteam trend. But that can also take a point away from Bron too so idk.

Duncan/Barkley/Malone can be looked at too, because Duncan was so much more successful, but skill wise it was close. Esp Barkley. He's so underappreciated.

I'll clearly take LeBron over Bird. He matches Bird's peak while nearing Duncan's longevity. Taking that 09 Cavs roster to 66 wins in a conference with the defending champion Celtics and a pretty good Orlando team is about as impressive a season as I have ever seen out of a player. And I'd never call those Cavs teams superteams. Irving has never done much without LeBron with Love was exposed as empty stats. Also you can't tell me Bird's Celtics and Magic's Lakers weren't super teams. Built differently but same result with overwhelming talent disparities.

[lefty]

you're right but he was excellent at it and won 6 titles. What exactly is your point? Or is this another roundabout way of saying a fringe Top 10 player in LeBron is somehow better than a lock for top 3 player because that apparently is your shtick.
Clearly you can’t read

[JamStone]

Trae > Curry + Doncic giving that “no fear” performance to end the series...

[Rosewood]

I'll clearly take LeBron over Bird. He matches Bird's peak while nearing Duncan's longevity. Taking that 09 Cavs roster to 66 wins in a conference with the defending champion Celtics and a pretty good Orlando team is about as impressive a season as I have ever seen out of a player. And I'd never call those Cavs teams superteams. Irving has never done much without LeBron with Love was exposed as empty stats. Also you can't tell me Bird's Celtics and Magic's Lakers weren't super teams. Built differently but same result with overwhelming talent disparities. Absolutely right on the Lakers/Celtics superteams. Especially Showtime but didn't Celtics draft most of their high end roleplayers? How is that different from pre KD Warriors?

Regarding Bron, the longevity is insane but when matched against the greats of the 2000s, he lost twice to Duncan and once to Dirk. Would've lost to Kobe in 09 and '10 had he played him. As I said I think he's top 3 SF for sure but recency bias has him as a GOAT contender which I honestly think he lost when losing against Mavs.

He was drafted in what? 05? Bird, Magic, Duncan, Kobe all came in dominating and winning chips.


Clearly you can’t read You're right I think I just see your name and assume whats going to be said :/


Trae > Curry + Doncic giving that “no fear” performance to end the series...

But he isn't better than either.

[baseline bum]

Absolutely right on the Lakers/Celtics superteams. Especially Showtime but didn't Celtics draft most of their high end roleplayers? How is that different from pre KD Warriors?

Regarding Bron, the longevity is insane but when matched against the greats of the 2000s, he lost twice to Duncan and once to Dirk. Would've lost to Kobe in 09 and '10 had he played him. As I said I think he's top 3 SF for sure but recency bias has him as a GOAT contender which I honestly think he lost when losing against Mavs.

He was drafted in what? 05? Bird, Magic, Duncan, Kobe all came in dominating and winning chips.

You're right I think I just see your name and assume whats going to be said :/



But he isn't better than either.

Of course he would have lost to Kobe in 09 and 10. Kobe had Gasol, Bynum, and Odom and LeBron had Mo Williams and then for a year the corpse of Antawn Jamison's career. Can't really blame him for losing to Duncan in 07, Spurs were a superteam with Duncan + Ginobili + Parker all in their primes while the Cavs starting backcourt was Boobie Gibson and Sasha Pavlovic. It would be like blaming Duncan for losing to the 01 Lakers when Terry Porter and Danny Ferry were starters for the Spurs. LeBron's 11 Finals were a disgrace for sure, but Bird got swept by Milwaukee and Magic threw away the 84 Finals, it happens even with the greats in their primes.

[JamStone]

But he isn't better than either.

Time to get some new AA batteries. Your sarcasm detector ain’t working.

For reference why I posted that and why you missed the sarcasm, see posts #2236 and #2237 on page 90 of this thread.

[Texas_Ranger]

Trae > Curry + Doncic giving that “no fear” performance to end the series...

Doncic in elimination playoff games: 42, 8, 11.5 on 54.5% shooting.

Trae in elimination playoff games: 17.5, 3.5, 9.5 on 22% shooting.

Oh and one also played vs the 2 best perimiter defenders in the NBA. Whoever thinks Trae is better than Luka is a retard.

[Mark Celibate]

Thank you. Specifically it was Michael. He was publicly quoted saying the Pistons were bad for basketball. And everyone outside of Detroit would be happy when they were gone. You put those thoughts out there in the media and then bitch and whine about their bad sportsmanship. Yeah okay... But the media was all too happy to oblige his Airness.

Funny though, in reality, as great as Jordan was, it was he who likely ruined basketball more than the Bad Boys. Kids all around the country started playing blackhole, midpost iso trying to be Like Mike. It was the slow death of team basketball. Because of Michael.

yeah I've actually said the same thing. MJ ruined basketball with the self-worship narcissism and everybody trying to be "Jordan" aka playing heroball at the local rec center.

[TDfan2007]

Doncic in elimination playoff games: 42, 8, 11.5 on 54.5% shooting.

Trae in elimination playoff games: 17.5, 3.5, 9.5 on 22% shooting.

Oh and one also played vs the 2 best perimiter defenders in the NBA. Whoever thinks Trae is better than Luka is a retard.

I would hope that nobody thinks that...

[TDfan2007]

Exactly

People are saying there was a lot of iso ballers back then because of the rules (no zone D) but Magic and Bird - who were talented enough to average 30 ppg - played in the no zone D era and were team 1st players. (James Worthy is another player who strikes me as an unselfish superstar, underrated)
They just had the right mindset so no excuse for Jordan

Jordan was a ballhog and inspired future ballhogs

Timmy and Kobe parallel rings true here. Timmy could have easily averaged 30 ppg in his prime, but didn't for the sake of the team, and his unselfishness gave Tony and Manu room to blossom into all stars. Bird and Magic likewise brought out the best in their teammates.

When guys refer to "making your teammates better," this is the concept that I always think about. It's about giving them room to shine in the games and inspiring them off the court in whatever way works best.

[Neo.]

giannis playing

should be a competitive finals

[baseline bum]

Suns look rusty, Giannis looks 100%

[Neo.]

Suns look rusty, Giannis looks 100%

yeah he's moving pretty good so far

[Neo.]

and malika >>>>> the other women fighting over this job

[timtonymanu]

:lol Nephew
:lol would have been injured and sitting in the stands away from his teammates

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[baseline bum]

The pace of this game is amazing. Man if the whole series is like this.

[timtonymanu]

Here I go again having to put Jimmertacular on ignore any time he posts that bullshit :lol

[Neo.]

:tu entertaining first quarter

two very different styles going toe to toe

[baseline bum]

Here I go again having to put Jimmertacular on ignore any time he posts that bullshit :lol

I've had that pos on ignore for months :lol

[Neo.]

Here I go again having to put Jimmertacular on ignore any time he posts that bullshit :lol

rofl

and meanwhile talking to himself in his own thread

[baseline bum]

Can't believe how good Giannis looks.

[Spurtacular]

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[Neo.]

Can't believe how good Giannis looks.

he's been beastly so far. just bullying

I feel he works much better from the wing than the top of the key

[Neo.]

derp

please stop derping up the official game thread

thanks :tu

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[MultiTroll]

Brickington and Forms unable to knock down the wide open threes. :rolleyes

[baseline bum]

This really looks like it's going to be a fun series. Teams look pretty evenly matched and the pace they're playing at is awesome.

[Neo.]

it's amazing how good milwaukee looks when they just focus on attacking, and how awful they look when they settle for quick shots :lol

[MultiTroll]

:lol Lopez strategy on CP0.

Back up and concede the jumper.

FFS you have help behind you. Guard him closer and if he drives past you help defense is there.

[baseline bum]

Holy shit that block from Giannis