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Dejounte
12-02-2020, 05:37 PM
https://www.nba.com/spurs/sites/spurs/files/screen_shot_2020-12-02_at_4.21.42_pm.png

View the link below to compare their old measurements:
https://www.nba.com/spurs/roster

As far as how accurate the measurements are, I do not know.

A reason to suspect the new measurements: DeMar is measured as 6'6" in the spurs.com link above, while it shows 6'7" in the list above. Really odd how that happened.

Anyways, if we take the measurements in the list above as fact, then here are the notables:

Keldon height before: 6'5", Keldon height after: 6'6"
Keldon weight before: 220 lb, Keldon weight after: 210 lb


Devin's height is same in both.
Devin weight "before": 200 lb, Devin weight "after": 195 lb

Quinndary height before: 6'3", Quinndary height after: 6'4" -- *Derrick White is listed as 6'4" in both. IMO, Q can play SG*

Luka Samanic height before: 6'10", Luka Samanic height after: 6'11"
Luka Samanic weight before: 227 lb, Luka Samanic weight after: 235 lb

LaMarcus Aldridge weight before: 250 lb, LaMarcus Aldridge weight after: 265 lb

And as mentioned earlier, DeMar height before: 6'6", DeMar height after: 6'7"

Keldon listed as "G/F", while Devin listed as only "G". Hmm....


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TD 21
12-02-2020, 05:46 PM
I wouldn't read into a lot of listings. They're out of whack on all sites.

In this one, it looks like they're back to the mostly (minus Gay, Poeltl, maybe Johnson) in shoes heights. They also list Aldridge, Eubanks as F and DeRozan, Vassell and Walker as strictly G.

Dejounte
12-02-2020, 05:49 PM
I wouldn't read into a lot of listings. They're out of whack on all sites.

In this one, it looks like they're back to the mostly (minus Gay, Poeltl, maybe Johnson) in shoes heights. They also list Aldridge, Eubanks as F and DeRozan, Vassell and Walker as strictly G.

If the listed heights aren't reliable, the weights should be. No reason to pull numbers like those out of nowhere. Unless they let them wear backpacks while they're being weighed.

Dejounte
12-02-2020, 05:51 PM
I did not even catch LMA's position being "F" in the list. There's no way his fatass can play PF anymore.

tonight...you
12-02-2020, 05:53 PM
https://www.nba.com/spurs/sites/spurs/files/screen_shot_2020-12-02_at_4.21.42_pm.png

View the link below to compare their old measurements:
https://www.nba.com/spurs/roster

As far as how accurate the measurements are, I do not know.

A reason to suspect the new measurements: DeMar is measured as 6'6" in the spurs.com link above, while it shows 6'7" in the list above. Really odd how that happened.

Anyways, if we take the measurements in the list above as fact, then here are the notables:

Keldon height before: 6'5", Keldon height after: 6'6"
Keldon weight before: 220 lb, Keldon weight after: 210 lb


Devin's height is same in both.
Devin weight "before": 200 lb, Devin weight "after": 195 lb

Quinndary height before: 6'3", Quinndary height after: 6'4" -- *Derrick White is listed as 6'4" in both. IMO, Q can play SG*

Luka Samanic height before: 6'10", Luka Samanic height after: 6'11"
Luka Samanic weight before: 227 lb, Luka Samanic weight after: 235 lb

LaMarcus Aldridge weight before: 250 lb, LaMarcus Aldridge weight after: 265 lb

And as mentioned earlier, DeMar height before: 6'6", DeMar height after: 6'7"

Keldon listed as "G/F", while Devin listed as only "G". Hmm....


TheDrewShow (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=53364)
Appreciated!

Dejounte
12-02-2020, 06:02 PM
It's also hard to believe that Keldon is only 1" taller than Lonnie. He looks like he towers over him every time they stand next to each other.

I wish whoever was in charge of taking these measurements would do their jobs properly.

Dancelot
12-02-2020, 06:21 PM
So Aldridge gained 15 pounds? great.

tonight...you
12-02-2020, 06:32 PM
It's also hard to believe that Keldon is only 1" taller than Lonnie. He looks like he towers over him every time they stand next to each other.

I wish whoever was in charge of taking these measurements would do their jobs properly.
He got them Tom Cruise shoes.

Dejounte
12-02-2020, 06:32 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1178673173614809088?s=09

This is from last year's training camp

Dejounte
12-02-2020, 06:34 PM
So Aldridge gained 15 pounds? great.

Looking at last year's training camp list, that was already his weight. Maybe the measurements on the spurs.com site are outdated.

TD 21
12-02-2020, 06:35 PM
So Aldridge gained 15 pounds? great.

Nah, he's been 265 for a while. I don't know why they listed both him and Gay at 250 last season.

The weights look legit outside of Johnson (doesn't seem believable that he's down 10 pounds) and maybe Lyles (though he seems in better shape since signing here, so he might be down 10 pounds to his draft weight).

Dejounte
12-02-2020, 06:38 PM
There is a report that Keldon is in a boot. Maybe the players have an option to let the people who make the list use measurements from the year prior.

Given that the team probably can't bring everyone in at once, maybe whoever had to make the list was allowed to use old numbers.

Dejounte
12-02-2020, 06:41 PM
Nah, he's been 265 for a while. I don't know why they listed both him and Gay at 250 last season.

The weights look legit outside of Johnson (doesn't seem believable that he's down 10 pounds) and maybe Lyles (though he seems in better shape since signing here, so he might be down 10 pounds to his draft weight).

Keldon's weight from last year's training camp was 210 lb. Seems they just used last year's numbers for him because of the boot.

Dejounte
12-02-2020, 06:59 PM
I extracted the data to make it easier to compare:

https://i.imgur.com/HrPyY7P.png

There's no way 2 out of 13 players are the only ones with any change in weight after 1.5 years.

tonight...you
12-02-2020, 07:03 PM
I find it strange that these players have the exact weights year to year on these measurements.
Although I do see that's tilted to 5 pound incremental estimates, which is weird.


Edit: I look back and see it's not all that way, but the majority of players are either in the 0's to the 5's.
Weird.

SpurSpike
12-02-2020, 07:27 PM
Good to see Luka putting on some mass. I think he may surprise some people this year.

Ocotillo
12-02-2020, 07:59 PM
I don't buy Derrick being 195.

John B
12-02-2020, 11:19 PM
How’s Mills and Dejounte the same at 180lbs with DJ 5 inches taller?

Mr. Body
12-02-2020, 11:23 PM
I can't think that Trey Lyles and Samanic are 6'10" and 6'11".

KobesAchilles
12-02-2020, 11:24 PM
How tf am I the same height as Patty :lol

Dejounte
12-02-2020, 11:48 PM
So, I want to apply some logic from this information:

-spurs.com measurements are likely when they were first brought in as a Spur. It would explain Aldridge's weight of 250 lb, and he's probably gained weight since then to play C (or just natural progression from age). It would also explain why Aldridge is listed as forward still.

-spurs.com measurements for Keldon are from the official combine, with the height (without shoes) rounded to nearest inch and weight rounded to nearest 5 lb increment. So during the combine, Keldon measured as 6-4.75 = 6'5", and 216 lb = 220 lb.

-Keldon's 2019 TC measurements are 6'6" in height, which I'm pretty sure is just him in shoes. This is due to the fact that 2019 training camp doesn't take very long after being drafted/ the combine. Keldon's 210 lb weight was likely accurate last year, he's a work horse and I could see him working out between the draft and the start of 2019 training camp.

-It does NOT make sense to re-measure height every year especially for players who have been in the league for more than five years. So I do not think players go into a single file line for their heights to be taken. There's high probability they can opt out. Many players, including Keldon, likely opted out. No way he is still 210 lb.

-spurs.com and the TC roster lists Devin as strictly G seems very real. If TC height listings are consistently players in shoes, does that mean Devin is 6'6" without shoes? Spurs.com has him as 6'7", but remember, he did NOT have a combine.

poopbox
12-03-2020, 01:24 AM
Aint no way patty mills is 6 feet :blah

XDT76
12-03-2020, 01:38 AM
Since last season's training camp, teams are required to submit player's height without shoes.

J_Paco
12-03-2020, 01:51 AM
I would assume that Devin is 6'6" without shoes & 6'7" (his official listed height) with shoes.

And Patty is likely 6'0" with shoes on. His 6'1" listing (without shoes) from last year was complete horseshit, though.

It would be nice if the NBA really made it a point of emphasis to not let teams fudge some guys' "official" height like Patty (6'1" without shoes) & LeBron James (6'8" w/o shoes) last year.

Also, the official listing should always be in shoes cause no one plays basketball barefoot (unless you want to break something).

daslicer
12-03-2020, 02:10 AM
How tf am I the same height as Patty :lol

I definitely believe they are lying about Mill's height. He has to be 5'11. It reminds of how the Hornets lied for years that Kemba Walker was 6'1 when he was actually only 5'11. I remember once getting court side seats for Spurs vs Hornets game. I saw Parker and Kemba standing right in front of me. I could tell at the time he had to be 5'11 since Parker had at least 3 inches on him. Celtics measured him last year without shoes and he turned out to be 5'11.

Vic Petro
12-03-2020, 02:27 AM
Was Darius Songaila in the coaching staff last year?

cd021
12-03-2020, 02:31 AM
How tf am I the same height as Patty :lol
Didn't think of it like that. Technically, i'm as tall as Derrick White.

cd021
12-03-2020, 02:32 AM
Luka 6'11 and 235 :tu

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 12:09 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334544590821609472?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334542340321644548?s=19

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 12:09 PM
https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334544823886499843?s=19

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 12:22 PM
https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334542967684689921?s=19

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334542094866784258?s=19

John B
12-03-2020, 12:23 PM
https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334544823886499843?s=19
Gay has been a step slower. I hope his conditioning could get him running with the young athletic core

NASpurs
12-03-2020, 12:26 PM
Gay should be a center this year and a PF in limited minutes depending on the matchup.

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 12:45 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334552605050236932?s=19

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334553136481120260?s=19

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334552604408487942?s=19

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 12:48 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334554470395629569?s=19

Trade the vets tho -DPG

Sugus
12-03-2020, 12:49 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334552605050236932?s=19

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334553136481120260?s=19

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334552604408487942?s=19

Yessss Lonnie news. Ball-handling when penetrating was a weak spot in his game, let's see what he's improved in. I still don't expect this season to be his breakout year, but it'd be great to see marked improvements in areas like these. Also, it's kinda looking like we'll roll with the vets until season's end... Can't say I'm surprised.

Rudy Gay as a small-ball stretch 5 is a VERY interesting proposition when you take into account his weight loss, and you add the run-and-gun style of play they went for in the bubble. Can't wait...

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 12:54 PM
https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1334556037244997633?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334556321841115139?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334555842495082498?s=19

Jrue is the ultimate mentor for Lonnie. I like it.

The Truth #6
12-03-2020, 12:55 PM
Yessss Lonnie news. Ball-handling when penetrating was a weak spot in his game, let's see what he's improved in. I still don't expect this season to be his breakout year, but it'd be great to see marked improvements in areas like these. Also, it's kinda looking like we'll roll with the vets until season's end... Can't say I'm surprised.

Rudy Gay as a small-ball stretch 5 is a VERY interesting proposition when you take into account his weight loss, and you add the run-and-gun style of play they went for in the bubble. Can't wait...

I'd like to see that in stretches. But if they are playing 4 guards, I'm ok with either Yak or LA (if he is shooting 3s).

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 12:55 PM
https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334556484718501893?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334555519965650944?s=19

PATIENCE YOU SPERGSTALK

r0drig0lac
12-03-2020, 01:04 PM
Walker for the Bucks confirmed

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 01:06 PM
https://twitter.com/EvanClosky/status/1334558682047262720?s=19

The Truth #6
12-03-2020, 01:10 PM
Walker for the Bucks confirmed

What???

GAustex
12-03-2020, 01:16 PM
I would assume that Devin is 6'6" without shoes & 6'7" (his official listed height) with shoes.

And Patty is likely 6'0" with shoes on. His 6'1" listing (without shoes) from last year was complete horseshit, though.

It would be nice if the NBA really made it a point of emphasis to not let teams fudge some guys' "official" height like Patty (6'1" without shoes) & LeBron James (6'8" w/o shoes) last year.

Also, the official listing should always be in shoes cause no one plays basketball barefoot (unless you want to break something).
Mike Miller busted all over Gary Neal wearing a sock! I know u remember

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 01:17 PM
What???

He's kidding. Jrue plays for the Bucks.

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 01:22 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334544590821609472?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334542340321644548?s=19

Since we kept LaMonstercus Aldridge, we match up well with the Lakers...

White >> Schroder
DeMar >> Kaldwell- Pope
Keldon = LeBron
LMA > Anthony Davis
Poetl = Marc Gasol

Championships, baby!

Seventyniner
12-03-2020, 01:39 PM
Since we kept LaMonstercus Aldridge, we match up well with the Lakers...

White >> Schroder
DeMar >> Kaldwell- Pope
Keldon = LeBron
LMA > Anthony Davis
Poetl = Marc Gasol

Championships, baby!

Uhhh.....

I mean, if this even comes close to happening then the Spurs are legit contenders. But come on now.

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 01:42 PM
Uhhh.....

I mean, if this even comes close to happening then the Spurs are legit contenders. But come on now.

Don't be an eye tester Sperg

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 02:01 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334572106328182786?s=19

Where's Murray? Too good to be in a group chat? Trade his ass already.

Leetonidas
12-03-2020, 02:10 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334572106328182786?s=19

Where's Murray? Too good to be in a group chat? Trade his ass already.

He was too busy dunking on 10 year olds

John B
12-03-2020, 02:19 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334572106328182786?s=19

Where's Murray? Too good to be in a group chat? Trade his ass already.

And Samanic? He strikes me as a loner vs Splitter and other European players we had in the past. But then again we had Manu, TP took them under their wings and get them acclimated.

Sugus
12-03-2020, 02:20 PM
https://twitter.com/EvanClosky/status/1334558682047262720?s=19

Stop, I can only get so erect.....

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 02:22 PM
And Samanic? He strikes me as a loner vs Splitter and other European players we had in the past. But then again we had Manu, TP took them under their wings and get them acclimated.

Luka still has that "learning to be alone" cringe shit quote in his instagram bio. Dude is an emo child.

Sugus
12-03-2020, 02:30 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334572106328182786?s=19

Where's Murray? Too good to be in a group chat? Trade his ass already.

I'm hesitant to take this at face value... But if he specifically left out DJ, could that mean something? Maybe all his "leadership" thing isn't as permeating to the team as he makes it seem? Fingers crossed for a deadline trade, tbh

NASpurs
12-03-2020, 02:47 PM
He was too busy dunking on 10 year olds

:lmao

Ocotillo
12-03-2020, 02:47 PM
Young guns are all excited now that Bryn is gone?

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 02:48 PM
I'm hesitant to take this at face value... But if he specifically left out DJ, could that mean something? Maybe all his "leadership" thing isn't as permeating to the team as he makes it seem? Fingers crossed for a deadline trade, tbh

Same here. I'm only half joking when I said what I said. My sarcasm is at its peak today and it's hard to detect lol

Sugus
12-03-2020, 02:52 PM
Same here. I'm only half joking when I said what I said. My sarcasm is at its peak today and it's hard to detect lol

Bahaha I noticed that, the Luka post was good too. But I'm thinking it over and it's a bit suspicious... DJ is generally the one everyone talks about when they mention "leadership" and stuff, and suddenly he's absent from these calls? Could be nothing, but weird. Also, is DJ supposed to be interviewed at some point? Is there a schedule or something, so that only Lonnie and Rudy spoke today, Patty yesterday, and someone else tomorrow...?

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 02:54 PM
Bahaha I noticed that, the Luka post was good too. But I'm thinking it over and it's a bit suspicious... DJ is generally the one everyone talks about when they mention "leadership" and stuff, and suddenly he's absent from these calls? Could be nothing, but weird. Also, is DJ supposed to be interviewed at some point? Is there a schedule or something, so that only Lonnie and Rudy spoke today, Patty yesterday, and someone else tomorrow...?

They only announce who is scheduled to interview the night before. I think tomorrow is the last day for interviews.

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 03:12 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334589676716515334?s=19

Dejounte gets a mention here, Sugus.

Sugus
12-03-2020, 03:27 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334589676716515334?s=19

Dejounte gets a mention here, Sugus.

Smh.... Well, he only talks about DJ as a defensive player, not a leader. Let me have this........... Lol

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 05:32 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334617968756527104?s=09

"We gonna expect more out of the young players this year."

KobesAchilles

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 08:13 PM
Bahaha I noticed that, the Luka post was good too. But I'm thinking it over and it's a bit suspicious... DJ is generally the one everyone talks about when they mention "leadership" and stuff, and suddenly he's absent from these calls? Could be nothing, but weird. Also, is DJ supposed to be interviewed at some point? Is there a schedule or something, so that only Lonnie and Rudy spoke today, Patty yesterday, and someone else tomorrow...?

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334659559940632577?s=19

RC_Drunkford
12-03-2020, 08:19 PM
Rudy is saying there will be a lot less isolation and more ball movement. Pop is finally going back to the 2014 style of play

GAustex
12-03-2020, 09:11 PM
If you want to win there is no choice but to move and share the ball and expect more from the young players. What they were doing did not work. Just getting rid of Forbes and Beli and still iso LMA or DDR ain't gonna get it done.

Go down swinging with the young ones-maybe they will catch lightening in a bottle and be somebody,

It would be a great story: Young Spurs put it together-vets hang on for ride.

It could happen.

Or not

ace3g
12-03-2020, 09:21 PM
https://twitter.com/Patty_Mills/status/1334679620373934080

Chinook
12-03-2020, 09:34 PM
I think Mills might legit start (especially with White out)

Murray, Jones
Mills, Walker
DeRozan, Vassell
Lyles, Gay
Aldridge, Poeltl

That would be my guess for Pop's planned SL if everyone is still injured by the time games start. MAYBE KBD can replace Vassell, but that'd obviously not be an every-game thing. Though I do think it'd be possible for the Spurs to sign KBD to a two-way pay him as that for half the season, then move him up to the 15th spot once enough time has passed to where the team can fit the prorated min under the tax and then sign a guy like Reynolds to the two-way slot KBD used to have. That's not really the point of this thread, but I thought I'd drop in in.

Anyway, yeah, I think Pop liked Forbes starting and truly believes that the SL needs a small shooter. Having Mills in place of Bryn maintains that and adds a bit of ball-handling to supplement Murray. It leaves the second unit thin, but what can you do? Walker might be gearing up to be a play-maker in the second unit, and with Jones, Vassell, Gay and even Poeltl, there's probably enough passing to form a workable lineup. I'd MUCH rather see Lonnie start, but it makes sense to do it this way for defensive purposes. I also expect Lyles and Sam to have an intense battle in camp. Trey has been a solid player with SA, but that's basically all he's been. I hope the Spurs believe Luka will eventually surpass that. Maybe this is the year to find out. If Sam can shoot well and rebound okay, I think he helps the downhill offense Pop wants to establish. If he can hold down the fort, it'd also free up Lyles' expiring for trades. The team already has a number of expiring deals, but they don't really have much salary to offer in a win-now trade. Lyles, Walker and Sam together gives them the ability to take back like $15 Million in salary, which is enough for a solid player. I don't anticipate that, but who knows?

Dejounte
12-03-2020, 09:42 PM
I think Mills might legit start (especially with White out)

Murray, Jones
Mills, Walker
DeRozan, Vassell
Lyles, Gay
Aldridge, Poeltl

That would be my guess for Pop's planned SL if everyone is still injured by the time games start. MAYBE KBD can replace Vassell, but that'd obviously not be an every-game thing. Though I do think it'd be possible for the Spurs to sign KBD to a two-way pay him as that for half the season, then move him up to the 15th spot once enough time has passed to where the team can fit the prorated min under the tax and then sign a guy like Reynolds to the two-way slot KBD used to have. That's not really the point of this thread, but I thought I'd drop in in.

Anyway, yeah, I think Pop liked Forbes starting and truly believes that the SL needs a small shooter. Having Mills in place of Bryn maintains that and adds a bit of ball-handling to supplement Murray. It leaves the second unit thin, but what can you do? Walker might be gearing up to be a play-maker in the second unit, and with Jones, Vassell, Gay and even Poeltl, there's probably enough passing to form a workable lineup. I'd MUCH rather see Lonnie start, but it makes sense to do it this way for defensive purposes. I also expect Lyles and Sam to have an intense battle in camp. Trey has been a solid player with SA, but that's basically all he's been. I hope the Spurs believe Luka will eventually surpass that. Maybe this is the year to find out. If Sam can shoot well and rebound okay, I think he helps the downhill offense Pop wants to establish. If he can hold down the fort, it'd also free up Lyles' expiring for trades. The team already has a number of expiring deals, but they don't really have much salary to offer in a win-now trade. Lyles, Walker and Sam together gives them the ability to take back like $15 Million in salary, which is enough for a solid player. I don't anticipate that, but who knows?

With how Mills has been running his mouth, I wouldn't be surprised. Just expecting it now so I won't be as disappointed. Could raise his trade value too.

Regarding Sam vs Trey, it's true I could see it happening. I have a feeling these two really fucking hate each other. One never mentions the other. I remember earlier in the season, Luka liked a comment where someone said there's no way Lyles was taking his (Luka's) spot.

pad300
12-03-2020, 10:06 PM
With how Mills has been running his mouth, I wouldn't be surprised. Just expecting it now so I won't be as disappointed. Could raise his trade value too.

Regarding Sam vs Trey, it's true I could see it happening. I have a feeling these two really fucking hate each other. One never mentions the other. I remember earlier in the season, Luka liked a comment where someone said there's no way Lyles was taking his (Luka's) spot.

So long as they channel it into competing and pushing each other harder, that's all good...

GAustex
12-03-2020, 11:33 PM
Murray, Mills, DeRozan, Lyles, Aldridge

its just so last year-great I guess

Shrug

J_Paco
12-04-2020, 01:04 AM
Mike Miller busted all over Gary Neal wearing a sock! I know u remember

I've tried to burn the memories of 2013 out of my mind!

Gary was the original Bryn Forbes (or was the Ime Udoka or Keith "the centerpiece" Bogans) except he wasn't as hated as much on ST (until those NBA Finals).

venitian navigator
12-04-2020, 03:27 AM
Murray, Mills, DeRozan, Lyles, Aldridge

its just so last year-great I guess

Shrug

That, Imho, is the right starting line up if we are keen to have a next draft lottery pick... Puts in evidence all the same defects of last year (unsustainable defensive liabilities and no chance of sufficient and efficient 3 point shooting)... Probably leaves to our bench the task to (improve, being made for most of young people, and) fight for keep the game in line, while once they achieve this goal the starters are back for the 4th quarter and we are then gonna lose the game...

KobesAchilles
12-04-2020, 11:42 AM
Last year our starters were shit out the gate and we tried to rely on the bench to get us back into it. That doesn't work without Manu. We were 17th in 1st quarter scoring and 14th in 2nd quarter scoring. (By comparison we ranked 3rd in 3rdQ scoring and 8th in 4thQ scoring) Slow starts killed us as a team. This year the starters better be on point from quarter 1.

Drom John
12-04-2020, 12:10 PM
I've tried to burn the memories of 2013 out of my mind!

Gary was the original Bryn Forbes (or was the Ime Udoka or Keith "the centerpiece" Bogans) except he wasn't as hated as much on ST (until those NBA Finals).

Steve Kerr was the original Forbes.

spurspl
12-04-2020, 12:18 PM
Since we kept LaMonstercus Aldridge, we match up well with the Lakers...

White >> Schroder
DeMar >> Kaldwell- Pope
Keldon = LeBron
LMA > Anthony Davis
Poetl = Marc Gasol

Championships, baby!

what are u smokin dude

Floyd Pacquiao
12-04-2020, 12:57 PM
With out Derek White and Keldon Johnson the starting line up will be just as bad as last year

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 01:31 PM
With out Derek White and Keldon Johnson the starting line up will be just as bad as last year


Unless they use their absence to develop other players.

The more I think about it, the more I'm open to Mills starting AS LONG AS DeMar is the defacto PG and continues his facilitator role.

This will continue the ball movement displayed during the bubble, BUT that was not the only change that contributed to better play by the Spurs. Playing Mills also removes the defensive versatility that made the team better. Mills should only be used as a sparkplug in the long-term. So IF Mills must be used in the short-term, hopefully it is to allow the slow development of other players for where to be on offense and defense. Worst thing to happen is to throw them in the fire and everything is discombobulated.

Leetonidas
12-04-2020, 01:41 PM
have we even confirmed white/johnson are out for the season opener or is it just preseason?

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 01:57 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334933701340389378?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1334934339763769344?s=19

https://twitter.com/bouncepassos/status/1334934343739994114?s=19

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 02:09 PM
https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1334935682414993408?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334934061035491328?s=19

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334933687985639424?s=19

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 02:10 PM
Sounds to me they're pushing DJ away from the head of the snake role and more into a defensive spark role.

Hope he does transition into a 3 and D.

RC_Drunkford
12-04-2020, 02:13 PM
Mills is starting 100%, WTF did y'all think?

Sugus
12-04-2020, 02:19 PM
https://twitter.com/bouncepassos/status/1334934343739994114?s=19

Well, unless Keldon comes out of the gates blazing at +20ppg or something, there goes the chances of the Spurs trading vets at the deadline and tanking for Cade... It was short lived, lol. Also idk why, but Dejounte quotes just rub me the wrong way. So... Superficial or something, idk.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 02:21 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334938933122260992?s=19

Hide this quote from TheDrewShow

Sugus
12-04-2020, 02:21 PM
Sounds to me they're pushing DJ away from the head of the snake role and more into a defensive spark role.

Hope he does transition into a 3 and D.

Yeah it was interesting to see him referring to himself as a "spark" instead of a fundamental part of the team, first time I'm hearing it I think. Maybe the coaches have realized they put too much on his plate to begin with, and now that the Spurs actually have a lot of options to develop, they're trying to reel him back in and get him to focus on a smaller role? One can hope.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 02:23 PM
https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1334940310376419330?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1334939093604704263?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1334939525693509632?s=19

Sugus
12-04-2020, 02:23 PM
Mills is starting 100%, WTF did y'all think?

Tbh, I'm taking Patty starting over Forbes 100 times out of 100. And I have a suspicion it'll be a temporary thing, maybe increase his value if he actually has a good start of the season in the levels of FIBA Patty like he's been saying... I can see a lot of contenders interested in that kind of roleplayer. Not the worst thing that could happen by a mile.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 02:39 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334944857132044289?s=19

How about IQ, DJ? How about training in making your ego smaller? Hmm...

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 02:44 PM
https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1334944159879356420?s=19

That's a weird fucking way to talk about a vet.

Where's the respect? Lol damn DJ... "As long as he does this, we will be fine"

Sugus

KobesAchilles
12-04-2020, 02:45 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334944857132044289?s=19

How about IQ, DJ? How about training in making your ego smaller? Hmm...
I just want him jacking up triples and making them at a 35-37% clip. He has shown he isn't a floor general, so lets not treat him as one. Put the ball in Demar and Derricks hands to facilitate and let him just focus on secondary ball handling, quick passes, and hitting open shots

EasyMoney
12-04-2020, 02:47 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334944857132044289?s=19

How about IQ, DJ? How about training in making your ego smaller? Hmm...

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1334934339763769344?s=19

I swear. Its like some of you actively try to say something negative about this team. Its honestly pathetic.

Sugus
12-04-2020, 02:47 PM
https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1334944159879356420?s=19

That's a weird fucking way to talk about a vet.

Where's the respect? Lol damn DJ... "As long as he does this, we will be fine"

Sugus

Lmaoo "his presence alone", what does that even mean? Like you're not excited to have his body or playstyle out on the court with you? Weird thing to say tbh, also yeah, that wording on "as long as he gets on board with us..." like wasn't he on board already? He's been quite positive about adopting the new stretch 5 role and contributing to the bubble style of play in his interviews.....

I wasn't sure before, but this definitely rubs me the wrong way. Like the vets aren't all on the same page as the young guns (well, at least not DJ's page, it might be him that's out of the loop). I hope playing time and chemistry sort these things out, or it's just bad wording from DJ... Not the greatest interview that they've had, tbh.

NASpurs
12-04-2020, 02:50 PM
https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1334944159879356420?s=19

That's a weird fucking way to talk about a vet.

Where's the respect? Lol damn DJ... "As long as he does this, we will be fine"

Sugus (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=54941)

”As long as... ”... yikes :lol

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 02:50 PM
https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1334934339763769344?s=19

I swear. Its like some of you actively try to say something negative about this team. Its honestly pathetic.

I'm honored to be called out for negativity.

Collins21
12-04-2020, 02:52 PM
Lmaoo "his presence alone", what does that even mean? Like you're not excited to have his body or playstyle out on the court with you? Weird thing to say tbh, also yeah, that wording on "as long as he gets on board with us..." like wasn't he on board already? He's been quite positive about adopting the new stretch 5 role and contributing to the bubble style of play in his interviews.....

I wasn't sure before, but this definitely rubs me the wrong way. Like the vets aren't all on the same page as the young guns (well, at least not DJ's page, it might be him that's out of the loop). I hope playing time and chemistry sort these things out, or it's just bad wording from DJ... Not the greatest interview that they've had, tbh.

Ithink DJ is the dude that needs to be moved he seems like he's been trying to pit the younger guys vs the vets.

Sugus
12-04-2020, 03:17 PM
Ithink DJ is the dude that needs to be moved he seems like he's been trying to pit the younger guys vs the vets.

He really looks like the odd man out, tbh. The problem with him IMO is that he doesn't bring anything to the table that the rest of the guards don't - he's not an irreplaceably elite shooter, his defense is good but not really elite (maybe he bounces back this season, we'll see), he's not a PG nor a SG unless he gets a massive shooting boost, and his IQ/decision making is questionable, much more so than White's.

If you think about it... White brings good ball distribution combined with initiating offense for himself and others, not to mention superb defense; Lonnie brings in excellent shooting and defense-bending athleticism with a lot of ceiling to develop further; Keldon brings in raw scoring and penetrating, on top of excellent man-to-man defense; and Vassell will supposedly bring elite shooting and zone defense as well. Dejounte is just stuck in no-man's-land, kind of good in all facets of the game but with his one elite skill (rebounding for a guard) not being all that necessary in the modern game. Sucks that the Spurs have already committed to him; his contract isn't untradeable or near it, but the image aspect of it will probably keep the Spurs from moving DJ in the near future.

Collins21
12-04-2020, 03:20 PM
He really looks like the odd man out, tbh. The problem with him IMO is that he doesn't bring anything to the table that the rest of the guards don't - he's not an irreplaceably elite shooter, his defense is good but not really elite (maybe he bounces back this season, we'll see), he's not a PG nor a SG unless he gets a massive shooting boost, and his IQ/decision making is questionable, much more so than White's.

If you think about it... White brings good ball distribution combined with initiating offense for himself and others, not to mention superb defense; Lonnie brings in excellent shooting and defense-bending athleticism with a lot of ceiling to develop further; Keldon brings in raw scoring and penetrating, on top of excellent man-to-man defense; and Vassell will supposedly bring elite shooting and zone defense as well. Dejounte is just stuck in no-man's-land, kind of good in all facets of the game but with his one elite skill (rebounding for a guard) not being all that necessary in the modern game. Sucks that the Spurs have already committed to him; his contract isn't untradeable or near it, but the image aspect of it will probably keep the Spurs from moving DJ in the near future.

I agree with all of this.

Joseph Kony
12-04-2020, 03:21 PM
He really looks like the odd man out, tbh. The problem with him IMO is that he doesn't bring anything to the table that the rest of the guards don't - he's not an irreplaceably elite shooter, his defense is good but not really elite (maybe he bounces back this season, we'll see), he's not a PG nor a SG unless he gets a massive shooting boost, and his IQ/decision making is questionable, much more so than White's.

If you think about it... White brings good ball distribution combined with initiating offense for himself and others, not to mention superb defense; Lonnie brings in excellent shooting and defense-bending athleticism with a lot of ceiling to develop further; Keldon brings in raw scoring and penetrating, on top of excellent man-to-man defense; and Vassell will supposedly bring elite shooting and zone defense as well. Dejounte is just stuck in no-man's-land, kind of good in all facets of the game but with his one elite skill (rebounding for a guard) not being all that necessary in the modern game. Sucks that the Spurs have already committed to him; his contract isn't untradeable or near it, but the image aspect of it will probably keep the Spurs from moving DJ in the near future.

pretty much this. i like DJM and have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but he really just hasnt improved on anything since entering the league that warrants him being a starter. imo besides the Forbes fiasco, the biggest reason SA sucked in 2020 was shoe horning DJM into the SL and taking white's earned spot from him

The Truth #6
12-04-2020, 03:27 PM
Sounds to me they're pushing DJ away from the head of the snake role and more into a defensive spark role.

Hope he does transition into a 3 and D.

I think they still hope him to be a leader. Why do you think his role is necessarily changed?

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 03:28 PM
Ithink DJ is the dude that needs to be moved he seems like he's been trying to pit the younger guys vs the vets.

Not only that but young players vs Pop. Dude has been whining about lack of freedom since day 1

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 03:29 PM
I think they still hope him to be a leader. Why do you think his role is necessarily changed?

Just the words defensive spark struck out to me and less of him talking about leadership compared to previous years

Light
12-04-2020, 03:32 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334944857132044289?s=19

How about IQ, DJ? How about training in making your ego smaller? Hmm...

You literally posted a tweet that quotes him saying he wants to be a better decision maker...

The Truth #6
12-04-2020, 03:43 PM
Just the words defensive spark struck out to me and less of him talking about leadership compared to previous years

It’s possible, but I think people are overreacting to DJ’s quotes. He is parroting the new company line in regards to LA. I’m actually glad he said it. I mean, it’s the truth. LA may or may not be offended. I’m ok either way. As for the spark line, I don’t know, sounds more vague to me than a clear indication of any tectonic shifts.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 03:52 PM
Why the fuck has Dejounte been crying?? What the fuck is going on here lmao

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/watch-dejounte-murray-on-postseason-goals-improving-his-game-and-more

When he turns his side, you'll see it. He has tears running down.

DJ took DeMar's place for the interviews today. Is DeMar being traded??

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334930221510893570?s=19

Watch the video guys, and you'll see it.

Sugus

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 03:54 PM
Chill Drew, I wasn't trying to change your opinion on the guy. I was just busting your balls

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 04:01 PM
Why the fuck has Dejounte been crying?? What the fuck is going on here lmao

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/watch-dejounte-murray-on-postseason-goals-improving-his-game-and-more

When he turns his side, you'll see it. He has tears running down.

DJ took DeMar's place for the interviews today. Is DeMar being traded??

Watch the video guys, and you'll see it.

Sugus

You'll see the tears at the 1:12-1:14 mark

You can kind of hear his nose being stuffed too

NASpurs
12-04-2020, 04:04 PM
Why the fuck has Dejounte been crying?? What the fuck is going on here lmao

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/watch-dejounte-murray-on-postseason-goals-improving-his-game-and-more

When he turns his side, you'll see it. He has tears running down.

DJ took DeMar's place for the interviews today. Is DeMar being traded??

Watch the video guys, and you'll see it.

Sugus (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=54941)

Car probably stalled at the Jack in the Box parking lot.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 04:14 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Lc9NdOO_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 04:20 PM
CIYgJXWsH2z

I don't know if these photos are new (the Lonnie one seems old)

I do know we should be getting new media day photos soon as per the Spurs photographer

The Truth #6
12-04-2020, 04:42 PM
Either I have a poor Wi-Fi connection, or this crying concern is completely ridiculous. Having just watched that montage of interview clips, if anything, I am slightly higher on him now than before. He seems like he’s really trying to be a leader. Is it slightly awkward? Perhaps. Someone on the team needs to take a leadership role.

Regardless, those are just little details. To me, the real take away from this whole interview is that Pop loosened his grip, which is something he has needed to do throughout the years for the team to improve, such as when he finally let Manu be Manu, the team did a hell of a lot better. Obviously no Manu on this team, but I think this team will actually be pretty exciting this year if Pop continues to let them have some amount of freedom.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 04:48 PM
Either I have a poor Wi-Fi connection, or this crying concern is completely ridiculous. Having just watched that montage of interview clips, if anything, I am slightly higher on him now than before. He seems like he’s really trying to be a leader. Is it slightly awkward? Perhaps. Someone on the team needs to take a leadership role.

Regardless, those are just little details. To me, the real take away from this whole interview is that Pop loosened his grip, which is something he has needed to do throughout the years for the team to improve, such as when he finally let Manu be Manu, the team did a hell of a lot better. Obviously no Manu on this team, but I think this team will actually be pretty exciting this year if Pop continues to let them have some amount of freedom.

Well I can't for sure say they are tears, but I can't be the only one seeing the shadow of what looks like tears running down his cheeks. Could it be sweat instead? Maybe.

You're seeing leadership? Maybe we're seeing things through our own lens. I could be seeing the opposite because I'm not a fan and you could be seeing your way because vice versa.

The Truth #6
12-04-2020, 05:14 PM
Well I can't for sure say they are tears, but I can't be the only one seeing the shadow of what looks like tears running down his cheeks. Could it be sweat instead? Maybe.

You're seeing leadership? Maybe we're seeing things through our own lens. I could be seeing the opposite because I'm not a fan and you could be seeing your way because vice versa.

This feels like debating the Zapruder film. I see the line on his face you mention, but his demeanor seems incongruous with someone crying.

Buy beyond debating his lacrimal glands, as for the leadership part, in general, I don’t see a big problem here. I think he is trying to be a leader more than he actually is a leader. But again, other than Patty, someone needs to at least attempt it. I sense Pop is still the only true leader, but he’s gone next year.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 05:18 PM
This feels like debating the Zapruder film. I see the line on his face you mention, but his demeanor seems incongruous with someone crying.

Buy beyond debating his lacrimal glands, as for the leadership part, in general, I don’t see a big problem here. I think he is trying to be a leader more than he actually is a leader. But again, other than Patty, someone needs to at least attempt it. I sense Pop is still the only true leader, but he’s gone next year.

I'd like to add it's not as if I don't WANT to see him rise to the occasion as a leader. In fact, it would be great if he did, it would make up for his bloated contract somewhat, because his play isn't sure making up for it. If he can excel as a leader and get all the young guys to buy in and trust the Spurs' development...then investing in DJ was well worth it.

The Truth #6
12-04-2020, 05:25 PM
I'd like to add it's not as if I don't WANT to see him rise to the occasion as a leader. In fact, it would be great if he did, it would make up for his bloated contract somewhat, because his play isn't sure making up for it. If he can excel as a leader and get all the young guys to buy in and trust the Spurs' development...then investing in DJ was well worth it.

Exactly. I’m taking what I can get. I like the other young players better. But if DJ can fulfill some potential that would be great. He did say that he wants to be a player that the other guys want to play with. So beyond whether or not he threw LA under the bus, that was an important moment of insight.

Sugus
12-04-2020, 06:18 PM
Why the fuck has Dejounte been crying?? What the fuck is going on here lmao

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/watch-dejounte-murray-on-postseason-goals-improving-his-game-and-more

When he turns his side, you'll see it. He has tears running down.

DJ took DeMar's place for the interviews today. Is DeMar being traded??

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334930221510893570?s=19

Watch the video guys, and you'll see it.

Sugus

:lmao this is turning weirder and weirder... I agree with The Truth, I don't want to read too much into this.... But those are pretty unequivocally traced tears running down his cheeks. The fact that they go down from the middle of his eyes gives it away in the reflection (though that screencap you posted didn't really capture them). His eyes look baggier than usual in the interview though.

On a more common-sense take, though, it seems improbable that DJ was JUST done crying when he had a scheduled media appointment, from the comfort of his own home, and didn't even had enough time to wipe away the tears before the camera started rolling. Idk... As far as DeMar being traded, that would be out of left field for sure. Imagine spending weeks on here discussing trade packages for DD pre-draft, only for him to be traded at the start of training camp :lol

Joseph Kony
12-04-2020, 06:21 PM
DeRozan probably just had the shits from eating some bad Jack in the box, he ain't going nowhere :lol

Chinook
12-04-2020, 06:22 PM
I think DJM feels responsible to lead the team due to his contract and relative experience. And he's probably mad that SA's streak ended under his watch. The pressure to hold onto his job is probably there, though with the injuries, he doesn't need to worry about it too much. I don't have too much of an issue with him pressing. I do think, though, that someone like Johnson will overtake Murray as a leader, and if the Spurs traded Murray, they'd still have enough leadership on the team.

The LMA stuff is weird, but I wouldn't be surprised if Murray feels like if the Spurs return to the pre-bubble mentality that he could be on the outside looking in. In a pace-and-space unit, DJM's shooting issues aren't AS important as they'd be if they played at a slower pace and relied on the players around LMA and DMDR to space the floor while the stars created. Color me as a person who thinks it was mentality and not having Forbes more than it was actual scheme that led to the improved play. Still, long-term, the Spurs playing smaller and faster justifies Murray getting time. If they move to a more deliberate pace, it's much easier to build units that don't include him.

I've made no secret of my belief that Murray is the most expendable of the young players. Drafting Vassell and Jones makes that more true. I fear at this point that the Spurs missed the chance to move DJM for legit future value to supplement their young players. I think the window is still there for a win-now deal, though. I believe an essential part of rebuilding correctly is knowing how to prune your growing core to make it bloom. As much as I love Murray -- the locker-room voice, Murray -- the player on the court is a clear example of a wild branch that is going to slow the growth of the whole.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 06:23 PM
:lmao this is turning weirder and weirder... I agree with The Truth, I don't want to read too much into this.... But those are pretty unequivocally traced tears running down his cheeks. The fact that they go down from the middle of his eyes gives it away in the reflection (though that screencap you posted didn't really capture them). His eyes look baggier than usual in the interview though.

On a more common-sense take, though, it seems improbable that DJ was JUST done crying when he had a scheduled media appointment, from the comfort of his own home, and didn't even had enough time to wipe away the tears before the camera started rolling. Idk... As far as DeMar being traded, that would be out of left field for sure. Imagine spending weeks on here discussing trade packages for DD pre-draft, only for him to be traded at the start of training camp :lol

All good points, though I wouldn't say for sure that interview took place at his home? Maybe.

wildbill2u
12-04-2020, 06:25 PM
Aldridge has always been a PF. He has not accepted the idea that he should move to Center although he occasionally played there in certain lineups last year. Ag e slows us down and puts on more weight. Very few can stop that normal physical process of aging. teams lie about the measurements and weight all the time for propaganda purposes. Even in college sports. Don't worry about it. Wingspan is immaterial unless you can use it effectively with speedy eye/hand coordination.

We know that Smanic has been put on a regimen to put on some muscle so gaining 10 pounds at his age is not unbelieveable. All of these guys are usually put on some sort of weight training when they enter the pros, escpecially if they are young and come in without experience in a four year program at a good college. Previously they overcame opponents at each level because their physical builds and athletic abilities were far better than most of their peeers. Once they enter a higher level like the pros they become acquainted with the process of building their bodies to NBA level.

Chinook
12-04-2020, 06:27 PM
Eh, I don't think it's about accepting. Tim was only listed as a C a handful of times. When he and LMA started together, they were both listed as forwards.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 06:28 PM
Also, that's the thing, Sugus, it wasn't a "scheduled" media appointment. Reporters made it seem like DeMar was removed last minute and DJ had to takeover. Today's interview wasn't scheduled for DJ.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 06:31 PM
Spurs photographer just told me there will be no group shots for the Spurs players due to COVID. Bummer, I really wanted to see Keldon stand next to Devin.

offset formation
12-04-2020, 07:05 PM
This might be the dumbest and most clearly unequitable trade idea I've ever seen. Holy fick, do these ppl really get paid for shit like this?

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2020/12/03/nba-rumors-toronto-raptors-san-antonio-spurs-trade-reunite-kyle-lowry-demar-derozan/2/

Dverde
12-04-2020, 07:20 PM
I think this will be the year Dejounte Murray shows his NBA ceiling. I still have hope for the kid.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 07:56 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335024281462448133?s=19

So, probably not linked to DeMar. If it was indeed tears, maybe it was just something personal.

tonight...you
12-04-2020, 08:21 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335024281462448133?s=19

So, probably not linked to DeMar. If it was indeed tears, maybe it was just something personal.
It wasn't tears.

J_Paco
12-04-2020, 09:10 PM
Steve Kerr was the original Forbes.

No way, Steve was super clutch in game 6 (I think?) & that puts him way above that group.

J_Paco
12-04-2020, 09:39 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335024281462448133?s=19

So, probably not linked to DeMar. If it was indeed tears, maybe it was just something personal.

Who gives a fuck! Are you the man's therapist?

I know it has become the cool, new thing to designate DeJounte as the Forbes replacement as ST "whipping boy." Yet, this is getting old quick.

Y'all are constantly bitching & moaning about a kid that is essentially a 3rd - year NBA rotation player (barely played his 1st year & ACL tear in 3rd), was selected 2nd to last in the first-round (look at the last 10 picks to see how little recent value that pick has) & has shown growth (believe it or not) as a playmaker & shooter.

Maybe the coach & FO need to realize his best future won't come from him being the primary playmaker or the starting PG. He needs to focus on the things he does well like defending, rebounding & playing off his teammates on offense. He needs to play more of a Bruce Bowen role on offense & not be a very poor man's Tony or Manu.

Dejounte
12-04-2020, 09:48 PM
Who gives a fuck! Are you the man's therapist?

I know it has become the cool, new thing to designate DeJounte as the Forbes replacement as ST "whipping boy." Yet, this is getting old quick.

Y'all are constantly bitching & moaning about a kid that is essentially a 3rd - year NBA rotation player (barely played his 1st year & ACL tear in 3rd), was selected 2nd to last in the first-round (look at the last 10 picks to see how little recent value that pick has) & has shown growth (believe it or not) as a playmaker & shooter.

Maybe the coach & FO need to realize his best future won't come from him being the primary playmaker or the starting PG. He needs to focus on the things he does well like defending, rebounding & playing off his teammates on offense. He needs to play more of a Bruce Bowen role on offense & not be a very poor man's Tony or Manu.

https://media.tenor.com/images/706b8f3750a0f1b7ecbe9d5811909c11/tenor.gif

So weird being on this side of the aisle...

J_Paco
12-05-2020, 01:14 AM
https://media.tenor.com/images/706b8f3750a0f1b7ecbe9d5811909c11/tenor.gif

So weird being on this side of the aisle...

My bad, bro.

The trend of bashing DeJounte has been building steam since last year & it can get nauseating.

I also understand that a lot of ST is down on him & think his contract is undeserved, yet he's only heading into his 4th year. I think we need to give him at least one more year, if his role is altered again to more a 3-&-D player, to truly write him off.

He definitely improved in a few areas but his impact to winning hasn't been positive thus far. This is a make or break season for not just him but Lonnie too, IMO.

BackHome
12-05-2020, 03:25 AM
Your right if the Spurs can put him in a position to become a good player then I think he will rise to the occasion. My issue is really not with him but more with Pop I don't think he was ever a PG material and they kept trying to force a square into a whole and that ain't going to work. I think if they just ask him to focus on playing tough All Star Defense and work on his 3 ball he will be a force for other teams to contend with. I always wanted him to play SG and in the role of Bowen or Green with the ability to dribble the ball and fake the 3 and take it to the hoop strong would be ideal.

PhantomDashCam
12-05-2020, 03:38 AM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1334641456422719488?s=20

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 08:14 AM
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1334641456422719488?s=20

Interesting. Depth might really matter this season.

Ocotillo
12-05-2020, 08:30 AM
Lmaoo "his presence alone", what does that even mean? Like you're not excited to have his body or playstyle out on the court with you? Weird thing to say tbh, also yeah, that wording on "as long as he gets on board with us..." like wasn't he on board already? He's been quite positive about adopting the new stretch 5 role and contributing to the bubble style of play in his interviews.....

I wasn't sure before, but this definitely rubs me the wrong way. Like the vets aren't all on the same page as the young guns (well, at least not DJ's page, it might be him that's out of the loop). I hope playing time and chemistry sort these things out, or it's just bad wording from DJ... Not the greatest interview that they've had, tbh.

Heh, DJ is on the trade LMA for picks train. He reads Spurstalk Bro.

rankingtear
12-05-2020, 09:02 AM
LA has dictated our style of play for a while now. LA is the problem. He can't play that bubble style offense, it is an awkward fit.

XDT76
12-05-2020, 09:49 AM
Your right if the Spurs can put him in a position to become a good player then I think he will rise to the occasion. My issue is really not with him but more with Pop I don't think he was ever a PG material and they kept trying to force a square into a whole and that ain't going to work. I think if they just ask him to focus on playing tough All Star Defense and work on his 3 ball he will be a force for other teams to contend with. I always wanted him to play SG and in the role of Bowen or Green with the ability to dribble the ball and fake the 3 and take it to the hoop strong would be ideal.

This is what I wanted for him and I think it would make him exponentially more effective for the Spurs.

exstatic
12-05-2020, 10:15 AM
LA has dictated our style of play for a while now. LA is the problem. He can't play that bubble style offense, it is an awkward fit.

He could. He’s at least as mobile as Jokic, and Denver runs. LMA could be a weapon as a trailing 3 point shooter. More pick and roll, less pop. Flashes and cuts into the lane. It’s a matter of if he buys in. Touches come in many flavors. Him backing people down lets the air out of the offense. If he understands that, and trusts the guys to get him the ball in good spots, he could thrive.

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 10:53 AM
https://www.tmz.com/2020/12/05/demar-derozan-home-intruder-restraining-order-kylie-jenner/

Mystery solved why DeMar had to postpone his interview + why DJ was crying (he cares for DeMar and his kids, given their close bond)

ace3g
12-05-2020, 10:56 AM
https://www.tmz.com/2020/12/05/demar-derozan-home-intruder-restraining-order-kylie-jenner/

Mystery solved why DeMar had to postpone his interview + why DJ was crying (he cares for DeMar and his kids, given their close bond)

Was going to post this when I saw TMZ started reading the article weird they are reporting about it now when it happened back in November


Our sources tell us ... the man broke into DeRozan's home on Nov. 19 and made his way upstairs into a play area where at least one of DeMar's kids was hanging out.


According to our sources, the suspect told cops DeRozan's home was not his intended target -- he was trying to get to Kylie Jenner (https://www.tmz.com/people/kylie-jenner/)'s home but made a mistake.

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 10:57 AM
Was going to post this when I saw TMZ started reading the article weird they are reporting about it now when it happened back in November

Well, scratch my theory then. I'll stop acting like a therapist...

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 11:08 AM
CIbAfTrnp4V


Contract year Mills is a loud mouth. I hate it.

Leetonidas
12-05-2020, 11:08 AM
https://www.tmz.com/2020/12/05/demar-derozan-home-intruder-restraining-order-kylie-jenner/

Mystery solved why DeMar had to postpone his interview + why DJ was crying (he cares for DeMar and his kids, given their close bond)

Yeah but this happened on November 19th it says. Why would he be crying about it 2 weeks later

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 11:16 AM
https://twitter.com/EvanClosky/status/1335256375425982465?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335256306643570688?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335256586546188291?s=19

DeMar will retire a Spur probably with smaller contracts as the years go by

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 11:19 AM
https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1335256671954808838?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1335257599042850818?s=19

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1335257661496061954?s=19

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 11:25 AM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335258300573769730?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335258657290919937?s=19

https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1335258748944781314?s=19

DeMar says fook da haterz

Spursfanfromafar
12-05-2020, 11:26 AM
He could. He’s at least as mobile as Jokic, and Denver runs. LMA could be a weapon as a trailing 3 point shooter. More pick and roll, less pop. Flashes and cuts into the lane. It’s a matter of if he buys in. Touches come in many flavors. Him backing people down lets the air out of the offense. If he understands that, and trusts the guys to get him the ball in good spots, he could thrive.

He could evolve as Timmy did. Play on the post as a safety valve now and then when the chips are down and Pop calling for 4-down.. (Aah. the good times!)

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 11:29 AM
https://twitter.com/EvanClosky/status/1335259262109573120?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1335258791177285632?s=19

https://twitter.com/EvanClosky/status/1335258818645790720?s=19

Dex
12-05-2020, 11:29 AM
Good to see Luka putting on some mass. I think he may surprise some people this year.

I sure hope so. I was hype about the draft pick when it happened and the kid hasn't really accomplished anything yet.

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 11:35 AM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335261237630955520?s=19

A lot of pressure on Aldridge

pad300
12-05-2020, 01:19 PM
CIbAfTrnp4V


Contract year Mills is a loud mouth. I hate it.

Look on the bright side, contract year Mills may be a loudmouth, but the last 2 photos show a lot less belly jelly than some previous "Fatty" Mills offseason photos...

https://i.imgur.com/oZoXk9k.jpg

Aah the magic of contract years, right!!

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 01:50 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335294705387626500?s=19

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 01:50 PM
Our new power forward?
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335294381646032896?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335294190230654977?s=19

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 01:53 PM
https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1335295295110918147?s=19

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 01:53 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335296189814730756?s=19

Maybe he had offers from other teams?

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 01:55 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335296508980244486?s=19

"How can this team be super talented? We didn't make any trades!" -DPG

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 03:52 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335306204323655686?s=09

What are the Spurs up to ? Hmmm

poopbox
12-05-2020, 04:01 PM
Whole squad telling LMA he got to get on board like he some damn rookie or end of the bench player:blah

This dude can't be out of here fast enough

poopbox
12-05-2020, 04:05 PM
He could. He’s at least as mobile as Jokic, and Denver runs. LMA could be a weapon as a trailing 3 point shooter. More pick and roll, less pop. Flashes and cuts into the lane. It’s a matter of if he buys in. Touches come in many flavors. Him backing people down lets the air out of the offense. If he understands that, and trusts the guys to get him the ball in good spots, he could thrive.

LMA basketball IQ is to low. He cannot play the game and think the game at the same time. Watch him when he gets double teamed. He has to stop, look at the guys guarding him, look all around the floor cause he does not know who guards who on the other team, find someone open, and then try and get them the ball. This leads to all types of dumb shit like that game we lost to the kings where they doubled off of Forbes, our only real 3 point shooter, cause they knew LMA was to dumb to pass the ball to Forbes...and they were right, not only did LMA not pass it to forbes but oftentimes he turned AWAY from Forbes looking for someone to pass the ball to.

Danny fell off a cliff but LMA pushed him to the edge. He was basically having to stand in LMA lap to get any type of open 3 off of him.

ismael-robert
12-05-2020, 04:29 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335306204323655686?s=09

What are the Spurs up to ? Hmmm

Its not a mystery they've all been saying what they're up to n you've been posting bout it...playing way they played in bubble n shooting more 3s like the other 29 teams; no secret

offset formation
12-05-2020, 04:35 PM
I sure hope so. I was hype about the draft pick when it happened and the kid hasn't really accomplished anything yet.

He only stopped being a teenager a few months ago. He's more developed physically and basketball wise than most 20 year olds. Kid is gonna be a stud.

RC_Drunkford
12-05-2020, 04:47 PM
Eubanks working on his jumper is exactly what I want to see. That way you can slide him to the 4. If he can knock those down consistently he will be a good rotation piece

PhantomDashCam
12-05-2020, 05:08 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335306204323655686?s=09

What are the Spurs up to ? Hmmm


Its not a mystery they've all been saying what they're up to n you've been posting bout it...playing way they played in bubble n shooting more 3s like the other 29 teams; no secret

But Eubanks cited the corner 3 specifically. You don’t often see your main big (when on the court) in the corner shooting from that spot. Suggests we may see some Eubanks at the 4 with either LA or Poeltl perhaps?

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 05:20 PM
But Eubanks cited the corner 3 specifically. You don’t often see your main big (when on the court) in the corner shooting from that spot. Suggests we may see some Eubanks at the 4 with either LA or Poeltl perhaps?

What about my boy Luka tho

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 05:55 PM
https://i.imgur.com/x23EZZd_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Looks like we will get media photos soon

rankingtear
12-05-2020, 05:59 PM
He could. He’s at least as mobile as Jokic, and Denver runs. LMA could be a weapon as a trailing 3 point shooter. More pick and roll, less pop. Flashes and cuts into the lane. It’s a matter of if he buys in. Touches come in many flavors. Him backing people down lets the air out of the offense. If he understands that, and trusts the guys to get him the ball in good spots, he could thrive.

What?! DEN is second to last in the league in pace.
He is close to bottom in the league points per possession as a roll big man that is why he rarely rolls and his pick and pop also kills the offense.

PhantomDashCam
12-05-2020, 06:44 PM
What about my boy Luka tho
I still think he’s probably a year away from getting consistent minutes.
Would love to be wrong on this though.

Luka does seem to have that elbow extended 3 - would probably mesh well with a solid Eubanks from the corner going forward.

If they do open the active roster spots to 15, we may get to see those kind of combinations earlier, say sometime after the initial 8 games or so.

ismael-robert
12-05-2020, 06:52 PM
As far as spurs concerned its positionless bball numbers are meaningless

BackHome
12-05-2020, 07:15 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1335306204323655686?s=09

What are the Spurs up to ? Hmmm

He said the same thing last year that the Spurs wanted him to work on his outside shooting and his 3 ball. I think the difference is they feel he can be a player who gets consistent minutes and looking at him replacing Gay who I have considered a PF since his injury. I think if he can show some positive growth he can make our second unit that more dangerous- really excited to see how the young player play and develop this season.

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 08:11 PM
https://youtu.be/tezXcL2AcTc
So you tag me in Trey Lyles bullshit and not when My "Eubanks will be a "todays NBA" version of Lambier off the bench take"

Like I Said I have all the receipts.

Love how all the SPERGS talk eyetesters who EAT UP MY CONTENT ON YOUTUBE (analytics look into it) attempted to shit all over it.

I'll say it again, SPURS HAVE THE DUMBEST FAN BASE IN ALL SPORTS

Now I see that after this post the usual suspects are talking about how this isn't gonna work...

Good vid, Drew. Hope he worked on the quickness of the release. The form kinda looks like Matt Bonner's

poopbox
12-05-2020, 08:12 PM
As far as DJ "tears" you can also see the same wetness on his forehead so I assume he was working out. First thing I noticed in the interview was the bright reflection on his forehead cause it was wet.

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 08:19 PM
he is SIX TEN, the release isn't a problem.
A. if a wing comes out on him he is SIX TEN
B. if a Big comes out on him, they are all mostly slow lummoxes.

Are you looking at the video TRYING to find something you can talk about to make you seem analytical or something?

Even the example you gave. I don't recall Bonner's release ever being a problem with him not being able to get off his shot, you know why?

he is SIX TEN, the release isn't a problem.
A. if a wing comes out on him he is SIX TEN
B. if a Big comes out on him, they are all mostly slow lummoxes.


Good fucking GRIEF.

Good point. It was a quick reaction. Sorry

Dejounte
12-05-2020, 09:30 PM
Full vids:


https://youtu.be/uO5Ek7Nxg4c


https://youtu.be/7eDwxdtU6CY

BackHome
12-06-2020, 01:12 AM
I wonder if Derozz will end up signing a new contract with us?

Liked Drew interview always rooting for the underdog hopefully his hard work will show on the court one thing that caught me by surprise is he didn’t start playing basketball until he was 14 years old I found that to be pretty crazy.

TD 21
12-06-2020, 11:39 AM
Those claiming things like "Aldridge is or can still play PF", "if Eubanks and Samanic develop certain skills, they can play PF and SF" and debating whether "DeRozan, Johnson and Vassell, can or should play SF", are living in the past.

Seventyniner
12-06-2020, 12:33 PM
I wonder if Derozz will end up signing a new contract with us?

Liked Drew interview always rooting for the underdog hopefully his hard work will show on the court one thing that caught me by surprise is he didn’t start playing basketball until he was 14 years old I found that to be pretty crazy.

Duncan didn't start playing basketball until 14 either iirc.

JuneJive
12-06-2020, 02:14 PM
Dejounte Murray's 2.4 steals and 4.4 deflections per 36 minutes were both the fourth highest marks among 300 players who played at least 750 minutes. He accounted for 40.7% of the Spurs' steals while he was on the floor, the highest rate among those 300 players.

GAustex
12-06-2020, 02:49 PM
What about turnovers committed?

Maddog
12-06-2020, 03:50 PM
I wonder if Derozz will end up signing a new contract with us?

Liked Drew interview always rooting for the underdog hopefully his hard work will show on the court one thing that caught me by surprise is he didn’t start playing basketball until he was 14 years old I found that to be pretty crazy.

Hmm,
Will turn 24 in Feb
Looks fairly athletic, I like the effort and attitude
I'm rooting for him.


Duncan didn't start playing basketball until 14 either iirc.

Well that's a bit unfair:lol

Dejounte
12-07-2020, 11:20 AM
Media day photos rescheduled to Wednesday for the Spurs

Grizzlies already had theirs:

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/memphis-grizzlies?events=775590355&family=editorial&phrase=memphis%20grizzlies&sort=newest#license

Solo photos only

Dejounte
12-07-2020, 02:13 PM
https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1336024047608614912?s=19

The injuries won't stop

Dejounte
12-07-2020, 02:13 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336020500502417408?s=19

Liking this update

Dejounte
12-07-2020, 02:25 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336027208033431552?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336026526769405952?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336027524351004674?s=19

spurraider21
12-07-2020, 02:33 PM
put no stock in the position listings tbh, probably just thrown together by some intern. same thing happens when early depth charts are released during the NFL training camp.

but its pretty nice to see a roster where we only have 1 guy shorter than 6'3

SAGirl
12-07-2020, 03:38 PM
Why the fuck has Dejounte been crying?? What the fuck is going on here lmao

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/watch-dejounte-murray-on-postseason-goals-improving-his-game-and-more

When he turns his side, you'll see it. He has tears running down.

DJ took DeMar's place for the interviews today. Is DeMar being traded??

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334930221510893570?s=19

Watch the video guys, and you'll see it.

Sugus (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=54941)
I didn’t see the tears. I thought it was a good interview for him. He usually says the right things and it’s good to see he’s enthusiastic about the season. I also liked that he seems honest, unrehearsed. The problem usually with him is not translating that to the court but I did notice from him in this interview no talk about being the PG or wanting to be the leader. It gives me hope he’s focusing on fitting in and finding his new role (as well as improving individually which I’d expect from everyone)
Thanks for sharing

SAGirl
12-07-2020, 03:44 PM
Either I have a poor Wi-Fi connection, or this crying concern is completely ridiculous. Having just watched that montage of interview clips, if anything, I am slightly higher on him now than before. He seems like he’s really trying to be a leader. Is it slightly awkward? Perhaps. Someone on the team needs to take a leadership role.

Regardless, those are just little details. To me, the real take away from this whole interview is that Pop loosened his grip, which is something he has needed to do throughout the years for the team to improve, such as when he finally let Manu be Manu, the team did a hell of a lot better. Obviously no Manu on this team, but I think this team will actually be pretty exciting this year if Pop continues to let them have some amount of freedom.
I did notice the remark about Poo. Let’s see if that translates for the longer season.

SAGirl
12-07-2020, 04:04 PM
https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1335256671954808838?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1335257599042850818?s=19

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1335257661496061954?s=19

Its definitely encouraging that he framed things this way regardless of the business side of the decision

SAGirl
12-07-2020, 04:19 PM
https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1336024047608614912?s=19

The injuries won't stop
Since college, it’s a big concern with him. Even in summer league he landed awkwardly, and had to leave the game. Then his knee meniscus tear rookie year. It’s concerning/

Dejounte
12-07-2020, 04:38 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336060052088770563?s=19

Sugus
12-07-2020, 05:09 PM
https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1336024047608614912?s=19

The injuries won't stop

At least it's nothing major... Hope he gets better in time to have at least a couple practices with the team. That could really affect his playing time/role moving forward at the beginning of the season.

BackHome
12-07-2020, 05:41 PM
Since college, it’s a big concern with him. Even in summer league he landed awkwardly, and had to leave the game. Then his knee meniscus tear rookie year. It’s concerning/

Yeah I am always worried about his knee blowing out just the way he plays and the way he kick his foot out when shooting.

EasyMoney
12-07-2020, 05:50 PM
Vassell might fuck around and start day 1 haha

Dex
12-08-2020, 06:37 PM
Can't believe first preseason game is in 4 days. :wow

Dejounte
12-08-2020, 06:44 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336430807750221824?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336422802367283200?s=19

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1336402734787031040?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336397140470460417?s=19

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1336394341473021957?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336392772664909831?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336392588195196929?s=19

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1336385982720069634?s=19

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336385071616577540?s=19

https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1336387715898732545?s=19

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1336400440716615680?s=19

Sugus
12-08-2020, 06:56 PM
The most surprising thing about all those quotes is Mills not being interested in a coaching career post-retirement. Sure looks like a trade deadline candidate then, since I doubt he'll want to take too much of a backseat for these last years he has of NBA-level play... Hope he balls out and nets us a pick or two.

Also, Lonnie at least doing individual work is encouraging. Hope he's ready for the first preseason game. Thanks for the updates Dejounte! Btw, I'll get to you soon on those messages, time's been sparse.

Dex
12-08-2020, 07:13 PM
Thanks Dejounte for keeping the updates poppin'

BackHome
12-08-2020, 07:17 PM
Yeah I thought the same thing he is going to want to get paid and get playing time which he probably won’t get with us if we sign him to a new contract.

Dejounte
12-08-2020, 07:27 PM
CIjokfUB26Q

Dejounte
12-08-2020, 07:32 PM
https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1336468177266634754?s=19

Pop looks like he's playing God in a new Bruce Almighty sequel

Truth4sale$
12-08-2020, 07:57 PM
Anybody know why the Spurs did not go the max allowable roster count of twenty? With injuries and a compressed season, might be good to have extra bodies for rest or at least assigned to the Gleague.

ace3g
12-08-2020, 08:00 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eowc6D-W4AEzBMw?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eowc6DoW8AIh9uL?format=jpg&name=large

r0drig0lac
12-08-2020, 08:13 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eowc6DoW8AIh9uL?format=jpg&name=large

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/46/04/34/9979678/3/rawImage.jpg

ginobilized
12-08-2020, 08:15 PM
Luka looks a bit stronger. Should bode well for him this season.

FkLA
12-08-2020, 08:21 PM
Luka looking thiccer :tu

Also, why hasn't team leader/best PG/best defender White spoken to the media yet??

Degoat
12-08-2020, 09:30 PM
ESPN has been releasing their top 100 players heading into this year and they ranked Demar 82nd lol I understand Demar has faults but they ranked guys like Montrez Harrell, Zach Lavine, KCP, and lonzo ball ahead of him lmao

Joseph Kony
12-08-2020, 09:39 PM
ESPN has been releasing their top 100 players heading into this year and they ranked Demar 82nd lol I understand Demar has faults but they ranked guys like Montrez Harrell, Zach Lavine, KCP, and lonzo ball ahead of him lmao

Lol...I don't even like DePression but he's definitely better than those guys, especially KCP and L:lolnz:lol

Dejounte
12-08-2020, 09:48 PM
ace3g those photos from the Spurs IG stories? Keldon looks PISSED OFF that he can't practice

Dejounte
12-08-2020, 10:12 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8Ri4mky.jpg

You'd be pissed too if POP came to you with one of his CIA POOP schemes... but its the "get over youself" bullshit.... This is why People find uncles to leave the organization.

I like the photo though. Just a Kobe/ MJ intensity in those eyes. Can't wait to unleash that beast this season...

Dejounte
12-08-2020, 10:45 PM
CIj9VoRpoDE

ace3g
12-08-2020, 10:57 PM
https://instagram.frix7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t51.2885-15/e35/130468385_1064737860639870_4049808898997647158_n.j pg?_nc_ht=instagram.frix7-1.fna.fbcdn.net&_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=FLQXXBcR2qkAX_PFbRk&tp=1&oh=c79d5b85e9eab68e41ee4b0e5e273452&oe=5FD258E8&ig_cache_key=MjQ2MDAzODIyMTI3NjIwODA5OQ%3D%3D.2

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Dejounte
12-08-2020, 11:01 PM
https://twitter.com/EvanClosky/status/1336519230817259521?s=19

Dejounte
12-08-2020, 11:02 PM
ESPN has been releasing their top 100 players heading into this year and they ranked Demar 82nd lol I understand Demar has faults but they ranked guys like Montrez Harrell, Zach Lavine, KCP, and lonzo ball ahead of him lmao

https://twitter.com/Dwhite921/status/1336521087014875137?s=19

SAGirl
12-09-2020, 12:32 AM
Too bad about Keldon. Thanks for the updates and photos guys. I am excited for the season this is looking like a fun team at last, playing with a faster tempo. It’s just bad luck to have Keldon and Walker injured but I am looking forward to seeing what the new guys can do. It should be an interesting season.

Obi Juan Kenobi
12-09-2020, 01:23 AM
https://instagram.frix7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t51.2885-15/e35/130468385_1064737860639870_4049808898997647158_n.j pg?_nc_ht=instagram.frix7-1.fna.fbcdn.net&_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=FLQXXBcR2qkAX_PFbRk&tp=1&oh=c79d5b85e9eab68e41ee4b0e5e273452&oe=5FD258E8&ig_cache_key=MjQ2MDAzODIyMTI3NjIwODA5OQ%3D%3D.2

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Pop looking more and more like President Snow from the Hunger Games...

I swear Donald Sutherland would be a great choice for a Pop biopic...

Ice009
12-09-2020, 07:55 AM
The most surprising thing about all those quotes is Mills not being interested in a coaching career post-retirement. Sure looks like a trade deadline candidate then, since I doubt he'll want to take too much of a backseat for these last years he has of NBA-level play... Hope he balls out and nets us a pick or two.

Also, Lonnie at least doing individual work is encouraging. Hope he's ready for the first preseason game. Thanks for the updates Dejounte! Btw, I'll get to you soon on those messages, time's been sparse.

Yep. If Mills isn't interested in coaching or anything like that, why are the Spurs still keeping him around? Get rid of him now, or as soon as possible. No need to keep him (open up more playing time for the young guys) or his salary on the team.

playblair
12-09-2020, 08:22 AM
its starting to set in that we are about to see another year of lma/derozan/mills/gay getting significant playing time

Dejounte
12-09-2020, 09:18 AM
Pop looking more and more like President Snow from the Hunger Games...

I swear Donald Sutherland would be a great choice for a Pop biopic...

https://twitter.com/spursnxt/status/1336510157321347075?s=19

XDT76
12-09-2020, 10:18 AM
The most surprising thing about all those quotes is Mills not being interested in a coaching career post-retirement. Sure looks like a trade deadline candidate then, since I doubt he'll want to take too much of a backseat for these last years he has of NBA-level play... Hope he balls out and nets us a pick or two.

Also, Lonnie at least doing individual work is encouraging. Hope he's ready for the first preseason game. Thanks for the updates Dejounte! Btw, I'll get to you soon on those messages, time's been sparse.

Yeah, I was hoping he would take up a player coach role so that he will cede more playing time to the younger guys.

Dex
12-09-2020, 10:25 AM
Yep. If Mills isn't interested in coaching or anything like that, why are the Spurs still keeping him around? Get rid of him now, or as soon as possible. No need to keep him (open up more playing time for the young guys) or his salary on the team.


Yeah, I was hoping he would take up a player coach role so that he will cede more playing time to the younger guys.

I read that quote as Patty not wanting to go into a full time coaching role after he retires. Seems like the type of guy who wants to just step away from the game, travel, enjoy his family, etc. like Bobo did.

I don't think he would have a problem taking more of a backseat, mentoring the young players, etc...IF that's the role Pop gives him. That's really the question.

It was encouraging that Pop hardly played him in the bubble, and only did when he was basically forced to do so. He was obviously healthy (because he did play) but I don't think they planned on doing so until injuries struck.

To me, that was a sign that Patty is willing to take a step back and let the youngsters develop.

Ice009
12-09-2020, 10:51 AM
It doesn't sound like he's looking to take a step back when he's mentioning that he was the leading scorer the Olympics. Does that seem like he's looking to take a step back? Sounds like he wants to play more and score more.

Drom John
12-09-2020, 11:15 AM
ESPN has been releasing their top 100 players heading into this year and they ranked Demar 82nd lol I understand Demar has faults but they ranked guys like Montrez Harrell, Zach Lavine, KCP, and lonzo ball ahead of him lmao

FiveThirtyEight Raptor WAR 2019-2020

28T Montrezl Hareell
89T DeMar DeRozan
108T Zach Lavine
119T Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
129T Lonzo Ball

Maybe panel members factored in a year of aging?

John B
12-09-2020, 11:27 AM
FiveThirtyEight Raptor WAR 2019-2020

28T Montrezl Hareell
89T DeMar DeRozan
108T Zach Lavine
119T Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
129T Lonzo Ball

Maybe panel members factored in a year of aging?

Good. This should just motivate him more.

Dejounte
12-09-2020, 02:21 PM
CIlpZqdjVKt

Dejounte
12-09-2020, 02:24 PM
CIlfeRZBwD6

Dejounte
12-09-2020, 02:46 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336756264450273281?s=19

Dejounte
12-09-2020, 03:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/w6ZuEMk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wqnxzNq.jpg

The Truth #6
12-09-2020, 03:12 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1336756264450273281?s=19

Sweet.

The Truth #6
12-09-2020, 03:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/w6ZuEMk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wqnxzNq.jpg

Off topic, but does Luka always look depressed? He’s kind of a mystery in general. His career could go some drastically different directions from All Star snub to out of the league and back in Europe.

Obi Juan Kenobi
12-09-2020, 03:25 PM
https://twitter.com/spursnxt/status/1336510157321347075?s=19

Another good one!!! :lol

ace3g
12-09-2020, 03:36 PM
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Dejounte
12-09-2020, 03:38 PM
White looks like a fluffy cute teddy bear trying to act tuff

Dex
12-09-2020, 03:46 PM
Off topic, but does Luka always look depressed? He’s kind of a mystery in general. His career could go some drastically different directions from All Star snub to out of the league and back in Europe.

He's Croatian. They all look like that.

Larry O
12-09-2020, 03:50 PM
White looks like a fluffy cute teddy bear trying to act tuff

:) Yeah, I agree, but at least he shows how "tuff" he is on the court with all of those charges he takes! Geeze! How much more can his body take in all that punishment though? Ala Manuesque type attitude! GSG!!!

BatManu20
12-09-2020, 03:54 PM
CIlpZqdjVKt

Is that a Lakers tattoo on his leg that I see... lol

SpursRussia
12-09-2020, 03:55 PM
Is it just me or LMA looks fat? And Pop went full Santa, nice vibe old man

Maddog
12-09-2020, 03:59 PM
Off topic, but does Luka always look depressed? He’s kind of a mystery in general. His career could go some drastically different directions from All Star snub to out of the league and back in Europe.

Yeah I thought the emo look was no longer in fad


I agree his career could go anywhere- given the talent definitely worth the pick.

ace3g
12-09-2020, 04:06 PM
https://scontent-mia3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/c0.135.1080.1080a/s640x640/130747160_438582550849031_2686956122677839352_n.jp g?_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=111&_nc_ohc=U_mckKFK5GQAX8Pi-Xk&tp=1&oh=c1d3e5fe0d0a8603f34b47f3546360cb&oe=5FF9AA2B

look_at_g_shred
12-09-2020, 04:16 PM
White looks like a fluffy cute teddy bear trying to act tuff
I've recently noticed that White looks like a lighter Kyler Murray

ace3g
12-09-2020, 06:49 PM
https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1336819917493051399

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1336819388482248704

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1336820473900969988

https://twitter.com/austin_spurs/status/1336737507778695168

John B
12-09-2020, 07:09 PM
Is that a Lakers tattoo on his leg that I see... lol
:lmao

ace3g
12-09-2020, 07:10 PM
Don't let Pop know...

Tim MacMahon @espn_macmahon
(https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon)

Filed to ESPN — Sources: Mavs plan to release J.J. Barea on Thursday. Mark Cuban knew this move was likely when Barea signed a 1-year, $2.6M deal last week but wanted to reward him for his impact over 11 years with Mavs. Barea, 36, still hopes to play in NBA this season.

BackHome
12-09-2020, 08:37 PM
Man someone need to tell Luka or Derozz to hook DJ up with their tattoo artist cause now that he is a millionaire he can fix that Frog or Alien or whatever the fuck it is on his shoulder

tonight...you
12-09-2020, 08:52 PM
Man someone need to tell Luka or Derozz to hook DJ up with their tattoo artist cause now that he is a millionaire he can fix that Frog or Alien or whatever the fuck it is on his shoulder
Lol... Duncan has the most lame tats.

exstatic
12-09-2020, 09:04 PM
Don't let Pop know...

Tim MacMahon @espn_macmahon
(https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon)

Filed to ESPN — Sources: Mavs plan to release J.J. Barea on Thursday. Mark Cuban knew this move was likely when Barea signed a 1-year, $2.6M deal last week but wanted to reward him for his impact over 11 years with Mavs. Barea, 36, still hopes to play in NBA this season.

I’m more afraid Pop will find out about Pau’s comeback.

GAustex
12-09-2020, 09:21 PM
https://i.imgur.com/w6ZuEMk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wqnxzNq.jpg
Freaked me out that #3 looked like Forbes to me

r0drig0lac
12-09-2020, 09:29 PM
Freaked me out that #3 looked like Forbes to me

2

ace3g
12-09-2020, 10:33 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo1uNS9WEAMu1ix?format=jpg&name=large

hooperflash
12-09-2020, 11:16 PM
Is that a Lakers tattoo on his leg that I see... lol

It isn't :lol

Dejounte
12-10-2020, 11:41 AM
CIn4HdJj5L0

FRANCHISE CORNERSTONE

tim_duncan_fan
12-10-2020, 01:26 PM
Have yall seen a quote from Patty saying it is time for him to be who he is on his national team?

Does that concern anyone?

It sounds like he thinks offense is about to run through him.

John B
12-10-2020, 01:47 PM
Have yall seen a quote from Patty saying it is time for him to be who he is on his national team?

Does that concern anyone?

It sounds like he thinks offense is about to run through him.

It will be a lot of motion offense (note Patty compared to the 2014 beautiful game, but not exactly as that team has its own identity). And they will run a lot to maximize our athletic group pushing the tempo, with Gay losing weight to catch up with the youth. I expect Patty as 7-8th guy with Lonnie, Keldon, Gay, Poeltl. I think our 2nd team will extend the lead with easy baskets.

tim_duncan_fan
12-10-2020, 01:51 PM
We are primed to be the Suns without Amare.

We might win a few games