Interim President Pelosi

[ElNono]

Pelosi says she spoke to Joint Chiefs chair about how to ensure 'unstable' Trump doesn't launch strike

In a letter to House Democrats, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Friday she had talked with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley, the country’s highest-ranking military officer, about taking precautions to prevent President Donald Trump from launching a nuclear strike.

“This morning, I spoke to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley to discuss available precautions for preventing an unstable president from initiating military hostilities or accessing the launch codes and ordering a nuclear strike,” Pelosi wrote.

Milley’s spokesman, Army Col. Dave Butler, acknowledged Pelosi’s call in a brief statement.

“He answered her questions regarding the process of nuclear command authority,” Butler said.

Pelosi, on a Friday call with House Democrats, said she received assurance from Milley that safeguards are in place to prevent Trump from illegally ordering a nuclear strike, according to person on the call not authorized to speak on the record.

Pelosi has called on Vice President Mike Pence and the Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment in the aftermath of a riot by a pro-Trump mob at the Capitol Wednesday. Under the amendment's fourth section, a majority of the Cabinet and the vice president can declare the president unfit for office and transfer power to the vice president. If they failed to do so, the House could initiate impeachment proceedings, Pelosi said.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/08/politics-live-updates-donald-trump-joe-biden-capitol/6590781002/

[spurraider21]

seems like a publicity stunt IMO

but honestly hard to know how unstable trump will be now that *clears throat* THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN

[ElNono]

I mean, does she even has that authority? Congress delegated war-making powers to the Executive for far too long under the guise of fighting terror.

Hopefully this makes them reconsider.

[hater]

Sadly Pelotudosi is almost as unstable as Dump

[Reck]

I think they should start impeachment procedings but not rush it. Do it normally with a democrat led House and Senate.

Sure Trump would be out of office by then but if impeached and *removed* he cant run for any political office again. Or so that's how I read one expert opinion.

[Spurminator]

Sadly Pelotudosi is almost as unstable as Dump

Yeah I'd hate if she lost her mind and we all ended up with public health care or something.

[SnakeBoy]

Yeah I'd hate if she lost her mind and we all ended up with public health care or something.

She doesn't support universal healthcare so I don't think you have to worry about it. Maybe President Biden will...oh wait he doesn't support universal healthcare either.

[Spurminator]

She doesn't support universal healthcare so I don't think you have to worry about it. Maybe President Biden will...oh wait he doesn't support universal healthcare either.

This is a very thoughtful response to my joke about the relative consequences of Trump or Nancy losing their minds, thank you for the explainer.

[Spurtacular]

Sadly Pelotudosi is almost as unstable as Dump

She's a desperate criminal. Many of them are.

[TimDunkem]

^Mentally ill

[Bogie]

She's a desperate criminal. Many of them are.

you’re truly mentally ill derp

[DMC]

I mean, does she even has that authority? Congress delegated war-making powers to the Executive for far too long under the guise of fighting terror.

Hopefully this makes them reconsider.

The time it takes congress to act on anything is far too long for a first strike threat to exist. Strategic threat wouldn't mean anything if retaliation or first strike had to wait for everyone in congress to give their monologues. Congress is completely useless since they do damn near everything along party lines. Otherwise control of house and senate would be a side note, not the entire thrust of the electoral process.

[ElNono]

The time it takes congress to act on anything is far too long for a first strike threat to exist. Strategic threat wouldn't mean anything if retaliation or first strike had to wait for everyone in congress to give their monologues. Congress is completely useless since they do damn near everything along party lines. Otherwise control of house and senate would be a side note, not the entire thrust of the electoral process.

War declaration is specifically delegated to Congress. And rightly so, IMO, as it should be a high bar. Notice that the President does have the power to repel attacks without Congressional approval.

The country also had very little trouble getting into wars before the 2001 AUMF or the 1973 War Powers Act.

Being inefficient is no excuse to bail on their constitutional responsibilities.

[DMC]

War declaration is specifically delegated to Congress. And rightly so, IMO, as it should be a high bar. Notice that the President does have the power to repel attacks without Congressional approval.

The country also had very little trouble getting into wars before the 2001 AUMF or the 1973 War Powers Act.

Being inefficient is no excuse to bail on their constitutional responsibilities.
You're comparing apples to oranges. Nuclear launch and First Strike capability is not a declaration of war. It would lead to that of course but it would not be required.

[ElNono]

You're comparing apples to oranges. Nuclear launch and First Strike capability is not a declaration of war. It would lead to that of course but it would not be required.

First Strike or preemptive attack is indeed a declaration of war. How could it not be? The Constitution clearly delegates that authority to Congress.

[DMC]

First Strike or preemptive attack is indeed a declaration of war. How could it not be? The Constitution clearly delegates that authority to Congress.

Because a declaration of war is an official act of congress. The last declared war was WWII. We didn't even declare war on Iraq.

[ElNono]

Because a declaration of war is an official act of congress. The last declared war was WWII. We didn't even declare war on Iraq.

That's exactly what I'm pointing out. Congress passed the responsibility to the Executive via the War Powers Act and the AUMF. That's wrong, and lowered the bar considerably.

Now you get into situations like this where you have a mentally unstable POTUS who can unilaterally start an attack (nuclear or otherwise).

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's exactly what I'm pointing out. Congress passed the responsibility to the Executive via the War Powers Act and the AUMF. That's wrong, and lowered the bar considerably.

Now you get into situations like this where you have a mentally unstable POTUS who can unilaterally start an attack (nuclear or otherwise).

They don't declare war but they pass resolutions allowing for military action. They do it that way so they can control the time frames involved in the targets that can be selected and the roles of engagement and so forth.

It's one thing if it's a short thing but long protracted ordeals and up like Vietnam and Afghanistan.

[koriwhat]

Pelosi and the rest of the establishment commies tried a coup since day 1... and yall keep backing the establishment as if yall have any true stock with them. It's laughable how subservient you all are.

[koriwhat]

Now you get into situations like this where you have a mentally unstable POTUS who can unilaterally start an attack (nuclear or otherwise).

Lmao Biden is the epitome of mental stability.

[RD2191]

Pelosi and the rest of the establishment commies tried a coup since day 1... and yall keep backing the establishment as if yall have any true stock with them. It's laughable how subservient you all are.
Calf tats are subservient, you're somebodies bitch.

[koriwhat]

Calf tats are subservient, you're somebodies bitch.

You and your insults are stupid as can be. That's FACT!

Now go give The Big Guy some oral since you love sucking off them establishment hacks.

[DMC]

That's exactly what I'm pointing out. Congress passed the responsibility to the Executive via the War Powers Act and the AUMF. That's wrong, and lowered the bar considerably.

Now you get into situations like this where you have a mentally unstable POTUS who can unilaterally start an attack (nuclear or otherwise).

Again, the alternative is that you simply cannot respond at all because congress doesn't act in time to pass anything because they all want something for it.

Also it's still not a declaration of war unless congress declares war.

[ChumpDumper]

Right. We didn't fight back at Pearl Harbor because Congressimon didn't say.

[ElNono]

Lmao Biden is the epitome of mental stability.

You guys need to make up your minds, tbh... either he's the crazy old uncle yelling at clouds or the mastermind of the biggest electoral fraud in US history...

[ElNono]

Again, the alternative is that you simply cannot respond at all because congress doesn't act in time to pass anything because they all want something for it.

Also it's still not a declaration of war unless congress declares war.

Of course you can respond. We responded before Vietnam without a problem. Vietnam was actually the war that triggered the War Powers Act, because the Executive was taking a shit on Congress already in that case. The AUMF made it worse.

If we can sit a new SCOTUS judge in a week, we can certainly start a war in that long or less.

[koriwhat]

You guys need to make up your minds, tbh... either he's the crazy old uncle yelling at clouds or the mastermind of the biggest electoral fraud in US history...

He's a mastermind of nothing and that's been the case his entire pol life of damn near 50 years. He a damn puppet but on the flip side he's most definitely not mentally stable whatsoever just like the rest of that party.

[ElNono]

He's a mastermind of nothing and that's been the case his entire pol life of damn near 50 years. He a damn puppet but on the flip side he's most definitely not mentally stable whatsoever just like the rest of that party.

IMO, right now, there's way more dangerous crazies on the right than on the left... easily.

[koriwhat]

IMO, right now, there's way more dangerous crazies on the right than on the left... easily.

Lmao really? How many of those crazies on the right burned down cities, destroyed small businesses, killed a multitude of people senselessly, etc...?

Yall say I lack self-awareness all the time but damn if you're not doing a good job rn of not looking at the pol party you subscribe to. The nuts want censorship because their feelings are hurt, they want to make their little commie lists of those they disagree with, they want to push Awoman and get rid of gender pronouns in congress, etc... I could go on and on about the nutty progressives but whatever. I'm sure you could go on about the right too... :lmao

[ElNono]

Lmao really? How many of those crazies on the right burned down cities, destroyed small businesses, killed a multitude of people senselessly, etc...?

Yall say I lack self-awareness all the time but damn if you're not doing a good job rn of not looking at the pol party you subscribe to. The nuts want censorship because their feelings are hurt, they want to make their little commie lists of those they disagree with, they want to push Awoman and get rid of gender pronouns in congress, etc... I could go on and on about the nutty progressives but whatever. I'm sure you could go on about the right too... :lmao

Pretty ironic, the biggest body count in years came from an administration that did not know how to handle (and still doesn't) a health emergency... because clorox...

Heck, the absolute batshit crazy just tried a coup and end democracy if needed... but don't change my pronouns!!!

Dems have their share of crazy too, tbh, and this is from somebody that doesn't like Biden either, but it's not really comparable, IMO.

[koriwhat]

Pretty ironic, the biggest body count in years came from an administration that did not know how to handle (and still doesn't) a health emergency... because clorox...

Heck, the absolute batshit crazy just tried a coup and end democracy if needed... but don't change my pronouns!!!

Dems have their share of crazy too, tbh, and this is from somebody that doesn't like Biden either, but it's not really comparable, IMO.

Yeah yeah yeah bring up nonsense and play down all the bs... Same ol' story time and time again.

It's just hilarious how ironic it is that you and others stand behind a KKK apologist while claiming DJT is KKK. It's hilariously retarded. There's so much to say about that party and Biden but what's the point. Tribalists will be tribal.

[ElNono]

Yeah yeah yeah bring up nonsense and play down all the bs... Same ol' story time and time again.

What did I play down, joey?


It's just hilarious how ironic it is that you and others stand behind a KKK apologist while claiming DJT is KKK. It's hilariously retarded. There's so much to say about that party and Biden but what's the point. Tribalists will be tribal.

Which KKK apologist I'm standing behind?

[koriwhat]

What did I play down, joey?

Which KKK apologist I'm standing behind?

You can literally sit there and blame covid all on Trump huh? You truly believe the number of deaths are 110% legit? You seriously have no problems with the dem congressional members getting down in china town and advocating for their constituents to party out too during the beginning? There's just so much that your tribalist ways won't let you accept or critically think about. You're a very smart dude so I would just have to suspect you choose to be ignorant and die on your hill.

As for the KKK shit... You sit here applauding the election of Biden yet you say you don't support him. You can't have it both ways. :lmao

[ElNono]

You can literally sit there and blame covid all on Trump huh? You truly believe the number of deaths are 110% legit? You seriously have no problems with the dem congressional members getting down in china town and advocating for their constituents to party out too during the beginning? There's just so much that your tribalist ways won't let you accept or critically think about. You're a very smart dude so I would just have to suspect you choose to be ignorant and die on your hill.

As for the KKK shit... You sit here applauding the election of Biden yet you say you don't support him. You can't have it both ways. :lmao

I can certainly blame this administration's response for the amount of cases and deaths, especially compared vis a vis with other countries. Especially since the POTUS took it upon himself to lead press conferences where he continually made false claims, recommended exotic cures and medicines, and embarrassed himself.

How could I not? That's not being tribalist, that's being objective. Should a Democrat do the same, I would be saying the same thing.

With regards to Biden, I don't like him, but there's no denying he won't try to destroy democracy to cling to power. I can't say the same for the outgoing POTUS.

[DMC]

Of course you can respond. We responded before Vietnam without a problem. Vietnam was actually the war that triggered the War Powers Act, because the Executive was taking a shit on Congress already in that case. The AUMF made it worse.

If we can sit a new SCOTUS judge in a week, we can certainly start a war in that long or less.

Nuclear response isn't a week. You're talking about getting involved in a skirmish. I'm talking about nuclear response or first strike.

[ElNono]

Nuclear response isn't a week. You're talking about getting involved in a skirmish. I'm talking about nuclear response or first strike.

When you say response, you're implying the US was attacked first. In that case, the POTUS/CIC is not beholden to Congress.

[DMC]

When you say response, you're implying the US was attacked first. In that case, the POTUS/CIC is not beholden to Congress.

The thread is about nuclear strike. You either strike first or you respond.

[ElNono]

The thread is about nuclear strike. You either strike first or you respond.

It's not the same when it comes to authority to each though, which is what I brought up/questioned.

Under current law, POTUS can do whatever he wants, pretty much. But that's largely thanks to Congress passing on that responsibility.

[koriwhat]

I can certainly blame this administration's response for the amount of cases and deaths, especially compared vis a vis with other countries. Especially since the POTUS took it upon himself to lead press conferences where he continually made false claims, recommended exotic cures and medicines, and embarrassed himself.

How could I not? That's not being tribalist, that's being objective. Should a Democrat do the same, I would be saying the same thing.

With regards to Biden, I don't like him, but there's no denying he won't try to destroy democracy to cling to power. I can't say the same for the outgoing POTUS.

Now do Fauci, Berks, WHO, CDC, etc... Lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Now do Fauci, Berks*, WHO, CDC, etc... LmaoOK.

Fauci, *Birx, the WHO and the CDC won't try to destroy democracy to cling to power.

[ElNono]

Now do Fauci, Berks, WHO, CDC, etc... Lmao


OK.

Fauci, *Birx, the WHO and the CDC won't try to destroy democracy to cling to power.

[koriwhat]

Lmao Quoting that attention seeking moron Chump

[Monostradamus]

Yeah yeah yeah bring up nonsense
:lmao storming the Capitol is nonsense to crackhead Joey

[koriwhat]

^ "blah blah blah I need your attention bro!"

[SnakeBoy]

Trump going on a farewell tour to highlight his accomplishments this week

[Reck]

^ "blah blah blah I need your attention bro!"

lol gay

[ElNono]

Lmao Quoting that attention seeking moron Chump

It was the correct response. Saved me the typing.

[ChumpDumper]

Trump going on a farewell tour to highlight his accomplishments this week

How many graveyards?

[baseline bum]

Trump going on a farewell tour to highlight his accomplishments this week

Makes sense, he accomplished a shitload of dead in the RGV

[Millennial_Messiah]

Won't happen.

DJT will serve until the 20th, as planned.

[koriwhat]

It was the correct response. Saved me the typing.

But it wasn't.

[koriwhat]

lol gay

Not saying he's gay but I am saying it's weird to keep vying for my attention daily for well over a year now with no response to any of his/hers/they/them replies.

[ElNono]

But it wasn't.

Of course it was, joey. None of the people you mention is inciting insurrection and wants to end democracy in the US to cling to power. They're all expendables.

[koriwhat]

Of course it was, joey. None of the people you mention is inciting insurrection and wants to end democracy in the US to cling to power. They're all expendables.

Those I mentioned have been wrong from the get go and a year later we still got unconstitutional lockdowns and mandates. Democracy is dead in this Republic.

[ElNono]

Those I mentioned have been wrong from the get go and a year later we still got unconstitutional lockdowns and mandates. Democracy is dead in this Republic.

Being wrong is not a crime. Actively trying to destroy democracy and the government is.

[Winehole23]

First Strike or preemptive attack is indeed a declaration of war. How could it not be? The Constitution clearly delegates that authority to Congress.Trump thinks he can do it secretly, without informing anyone else

Based on far-fetched, even pretextual threats to the US





https://theintercept.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Screenshot-2025-10-02-at-11.56.35-AM.jpg?fit=3010%2C1288A screenshot from the video Donald Trump posted to Truth Social showing U.S. military strikes in the Caribbean Sea. Screenshot: @realDonaldTrump/Truth Social


The Trump administration is waging a secret war against undisclosed enemies without the consent of Congress, according to a confidential notice that was sent to several congressional committees this week and obtained by The Intercept. It marks the most detailed explanation of the legal underpinnings offered by the administration for a series of lethal attacks (https://theintercept.com/2025/09/15/venezuela-boat-attack-trump-legality/)onboats (https://theintercept.com/2025/09/10/u-s-attacked-boat-near-venezuela-multiple-times-to-kill-survivors/) in the Caribbean (https://theintercept.com/2025/09/05/pentagon-official-trump-boat-strike-was-a-criminal-attack-on-civilians/) that began last month.

President Donald Trump has decided that the United States is engaged in a declared state of “non-international armed conflict” with “designated terrorist organizations (https://theintercept.com/2025/10/01/trump-venezuela-boat-strike-designated-terror-organization/)” or DTOs, according to the notice. It describes three people killed by U.S. commandos on a boat in the Carribean last month as “unlawful combatants,” as if they were soldiers on a battlefield. This is a significant departure from standard practice in the long-running U.S. war on drugs, in which law enforcement arrest suspected drug dealers as opposed to summarily executing them (https://theintercept.com/2025/09/26/trump-venezuela-boat-strike-drugs/).

“The President directed the Department of War to conduct operations against [DTOs] pursuant to the law of armed conflict,” reads the notice. “The United States has now reached a critical point where we must use force in self-defense and defense of others against the ongoing attacks by these designated terrorist organizations.”
https://theintercept.com/2025/10/02/venezuela-boat-strike-justification/