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RandomGuy
03-12-2021, 07:15 AM
The study found that states with Democratic governors had higher death rates early on in the pandemic, but that trend was reversed by the Fourth of July.

States with Democratic governors had the highest incidence and death rates from Covid-19 in the first months of the coronavirus pandemic, but states with Republican governors surpassed those rates as the crisis dragged on, a study released Tuesday found.

"From March to early June, Republican-led states had lower Covid-19 incidence rates compared with Democratic-led states. On June 3, the association reversed, and Republican-led states had higher incidence," the study by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and the Medical University of South Carolina showed.

"For death rates, Republican-led states had lower rates early in the pandemic, but higher rates from July 4 through mid-December," the study found.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/states-republican-governors-had-highest-covid-incidence-death-rates-study-n1260700

rmt
03-12-2021, 08:11 AM
The study found that states with Democratic governors had higher death rates early on in the pandemic, but that trend was reversed by the Fourth of July.

States with Democratic governors had the highest incidence and death rates from Covid-19 in the first months of the coronavirus pandemic, but states with Republican governors surpassed those rates as the crisis dragged on, a study released Tuesday found.

"From March to early June, Republican-led states had lower Covid-19 incidence rates compared with Democratic-led states. On June 3, the association reversed, and Republican-led states had higher incidence," the study by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and the Medical University of South Carolina showed.

"For death rates, Republican-led states had lower rates early in the pandemic, but higher rates from July 4 through mid-December," the study found.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/states-republican-governors-had-highest-covid-incidence-death-rates-study-n1260700

That title SUCKS. If you want to compare states:

States and territories Deaths per 100,000 in population
California 138
New York 255
Texas 158
Florida 151
Pennsylvania 191
New Jersey 267
Illinois 182
Georgia 170
Ohio 152
Michigan 167
Massachusetts 240
Arizona 225
Indiana 189
North Carolina 112
Tennessee 170
Alabama 209
Virginia 116
Louisiana 211
South Carolina 171
Missouri 143
Maryland 132
Connecticut 217
Wisconsin 122
Mississippi 230
Minnesota 120
Colorado 105
Iowa 178
Arkansas 179
Washington 67
Nevada 164
Kentucky 110
Kansas 166
Oklahoma 118
New Mexico 183
Rhode Island 241
West Virginia 130
Oregon 54
Nebraska 109
Puerto Rico 64
Utah 62
Idaho 106
South Dakota 215
Delaware 153
North Dakota 194
Montana 130
New Hampshire 87
District of Columbia 147
Maine 53
Wyoming 119
Hawaii 31
Alaska 39
Vermont 33
Guam 83
U.S. Virgin Islands 23
Northern Mariana Islands 0
American Samoa 0

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-deaths-u-s-map-shows-number-fatalities-compared-confirmed-n1166966

Spurtacular
03-12-2021, 08:15 AM
Summary: Democrat governors murdered senior citizens. Later on, manipulators did numbers to show Republicans how dare they not act like the sky is falling. KidnapperGuy's and the board cuckold's vaginas never stopped bleeding for a year.

Winehole23
03-12-2021, 09:06 AM
That title SUCKS. If you want to compare states:

States and territories Deaths per 100,000 in population
California 138
New York 255
Texas 158
Florida 151
Pennsylvania 191
New Jersey 267
Illinois 182
Georgia 170
Ohio 152
Michigan 167
Massachusetts 240
Arizona 225
Indiana 189
North Carolina 112
Tennessee 170
Alabama 209
Virginia 116
Louisiana 211
South Carolina 171
Missouri 143
Maryland 132
Connecticut 217
Wisconsin 122
Mississippi 230
Minnesota 120
Colorado 105
Iowa 178
Arkansas 179
Washington 67
Nevada 164
Kentucky 110
Kansas 166
Oklahoma 118
New Mexico 183
Rhode Island 241
West Virginia 130
Oregon 54
Nebraska 109
Puerto Rico 64
Utah 62
Idaho 106
South Dakota 215
Delaware 153
North Dakota 194
Montana 130
New Hampshire 87
District of Columbia 147
Maine 53
Wyoming 119
Hawaii 31
Alaska 39
Vermont 33
Guam 83
U.S. Virgin Islands 23
Northern Mariana Islands 0
American Samoa 0

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-deaths-u-s-map-shows-number-fatalities-compared-confirmed-n1166966You're ignoring the premise of the the OP, which is performance after the initial wave, as correlated with ideology at the level of state government.

Winehole23
03-12-2021, 09:07 AM
Conclusion: Gubernatorial party affiliation may drive policy decisions that impact COVID-19 infections and deaths across the U.S. Future policy decisions should be guided by public health considerations rather than political ideology.https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(21)00135-5/fulltext

Winehole23
03-12-2021, 09:11 AM
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DarrinS
03-12-2021, 09:25 AM
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Bogie
03-12-2021, 09:30 AM
Summary: Democrat governors murdered senior citizens. Later on, manipulators did numbers to show Republicans how dare they not act like the sky is falling. KidnapperGuy's and the board cuckold's vaginas never stopped bleeding for a year.

You said repeatedly covid is fake derp. So how can Democratic Governors have murdered people with a fake disease?

You’re really dumb.

boutons_deux
03-12-2021, 09:31 AM
You're ignoring the premise of the the OP, which is performance after the initial wave, as correlated with ideology at the level of state government.

yep, NY, NJ, WA got ambushed at the very start when "policies" were still being developed (masks, washing hands, distancing)

The point was REPUG policies of re-opening after the first wave got them hit worse by the second wave.

Leetonidas
03-12-2021, 09:35 AM
You said repeatedly covid is fake derp. So how can Democratic Governors have murdered people with a fake disease?

You’re really dumb.

Doublethink is part of being a brainwashed tool

Winehole23
03-12-2021, 09:35 AM
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/Yeah, you didn't read the study either. In no way do those stats refute it,.

KobesAchilles
03-12-2021, 11:38 AM
Didn't they hide the deaths on both sides? How tf do we know the actual numbers is my question. Honor code?

DarrinS
03-12-2021, 12:38 PM
Yeah, you didn't read the study either. In no way do those stats refute it,.

"From March to early June, Republican-led states had lower COVID-19 incidence rates compared with Democratic-led states. On June 3, the association reversed, and Republican-led states had higher incidence (RR=1.10, 95% PI=1.01, 1.18). This trend persisted through early December."


Duh, that's when there were the most deaths in NJ, NY, etc.

RandomGuy
03-12-2021, 01:17 PM
Didn't they hide the deaths on both sides? How tf do we know the actual numbers is my question. Honor code?

Easy.

The conservatives will bitch and moan about "they are paying hospitals to mis-diagnose" or "my best friend's sister's roommate's cousin heard that someone who died in a motorcycle accident was misdiagnosed with COVID". What they can't do, is explain away the total deaths from all causes.

Actual observed numbers of deaths is THE single most accurate datapoint we have.

Moving one death, or even a million from one column to another won't change the actual TOTAL number.

The problem for the fucktards is that the number of deaths, when you get a large population, DOES NOT VARY MUCH FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

We expected the death rate to be .0088 (that is 0.88%) of the population for 2020, before COVID.

This translates to roughly 2.9M people.

What we observed in actuality was 3.4M people, roughly 17% higher than what we expected. One or two percent variances happen all the time.

17% variances... pretty much never and never without a pretty clear cause.

The obvious explanation for that excess was the pandemic. It is both plausible, and supported by available evidence.

Conservatives who want to down play this shit... can't wave that number away, but they try, because it makes their cult leader look bad.

RandomGuy
03-12-2021, 01:23 PM
Didn't they hide the deaths on both sides? How tf do we know the actual numbers is my question. Honor code?

Further, when you game out the 514K extra deaths, and compare that to the TOTAL official number, which was around 400k as of Dec 31st, you can get a sense of which way the data leads.

We are undercounting deaths nationally by about 25% or so.

Many Republican led states want to play politics with the information, and find ways to NOT report deaths as COVID, (i.e. "we only count 100% confirmed cases, not probable or suspected ones") just like they find ways to cheat at elections.

My guess is that if you took the states actual reported figures, and compared that to the excess deaths by state, you would probably figure out exactly which states were led by Republicans by the amount they undercounted.