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    The study found that states with Democratic governors had higher death rates early on in the pandemic, but that trend was reversed by the Fourth of July.

    States with Democratic governors had the highest incidence and death rates from Covid-19 in the first months of the coronavirus pandemic, but states with Republican governors surpassed those rates as the crisis dragged on, a study released Tuesday found.

    "From March to early June, Republican-led states had lower Covid-19 incidence rates compared with Democratic-led states. On June 3, the association reversed, and Republican-led states had higher incidence," the study by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and the Medical University of South Carolina showed.

    "For death rates, Republican-led states had lower rates early in the pandemic, but higher rates from July 4 through mid-December," the study found.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...study-n1260700

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    The study found that states with Democratic governors had higher death rates early on in the pandemic, but that trend was reversed by the Fourth of July.

    States with Democratic governors had the highest incidence and death rates from Covid-19 in the first months of the coronavirus pandemic, but states with Republican governors surpassed those rates as the crisis dragged on, a study released Tuesday found.

    "From March to early June, Republican-led states had lower Covid-19 incidence rates compared with Democratic-led states. On June 3, the association reversed, and Republican-led states had higher incidence," the study by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and the Medical University of South Carolina showed.

    "For death rates, Republican-led states had lower rates early in the pandemic, but higher rates from July 4 through mid-December," the study found.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...study-n1260700
    That le SUCKS. If you want to compare states:

    States and territories Deaths per 100,000 in population
    California 138
    New York 255
    Texas 158
    Florida 151
    Pennsylvania 191
    New Jersey 267
    Illinois 182
    Georgia 170
    Ohio 152
    Michigan 167
    Massachusetts 240
    Arizona 225
    Indiana 189
    North Carolina 112
    Tennessee 170
    Alabama 209
    Virginia 116
    Louisiana 211
    South Carolina 171
    Missouri 143
    Maryland 132
    Connecticut 217
    Wisconsin 122
    Mississippi 230
    Minnesota 120
    Colorado 105
    Iowa 178
    Arkansas 179
    Washington 67
    Nevada 164
    Kentucky 110
    Kansas 166
    Oklahoma 118
    New Mexico 183
    Rhode Island 241
    West Virginia 130
    Oregon 54
    Nebraska 109
    Puerto Rico 64
    Utah 62
    Idaho 106
    South Dakota 215
    Delaware 153
    North Dakota 194
    Montana 130
    New Hampshire 87
    District of Columbia 147
    Maine 53
    Wyoming 119
    Hawaii 31
    Alaska 39
    Vermont 33
    Guam 83
    U.S. Virgin Islands 23
    Northern Mariana Islands 0
    American Samoa 0

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...irmed-n1166966

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    Summary: Democrat governors murdered senior citizens. Later on, manipulators did numbers to show Republicans how dare they not act like the sky is falling. KidnapperGuy's and the board cuckold's vaginas never stopped bleeding for a year.

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    That le SUCKS. If you want to compare states:

    States and territories Deaths per 100,000 in population
    California 138
    New York 255
    Texas 158
    Florida 151
    Pennsylvania 191
    New Jersey 267
    Illinois 182
    Georgia 170
    Ohio 152
    Michigan 167
    Massachusetts 240
    Arizona 225
    Indiana 189
    North Carolina 112
    Tennessee 170
    Alabama 209
    Virginia 116
    Louisiana 211
    South Carolina 171
    Missouri 143
    Maryland 132
    Connecticut 217
    Wisconsin 122
    Mississippi 230
    Minnesota 120
    Colorado 105
    Iowa 178
    Arkansas 179
    Washington 67
    Nevada 164
    Kentucky 110
    Kansas 166
    Oklahoma 118
    New Mexico 183
    Rhode Island 241
    West Virginia 130
    Oregon 54
    Nebraska 109
    Puerto Rico 64
    Utah 62
    Idaho 106
    South Dakota 215
    Delaware 153
    North Dakota 194
    Montana 130
    New Hampshire 87
    District of Columbia 147
    Maine 53
    Wyoming 119
    Hawaii 31
    Alaska 39
    Vermont 33
    Guam 83
    U.S. Virgin Islands 23
    Northern Mariana Islands 0
    American Samoa 0

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...irmed-n1166966
    You're ignoring the premise of the the OP, which is performance after the initial wave, as correlated with ideology at the level of state government.

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    Conclusion: Gubernatorial party affiliation may drive policy decisions that impact COVID-19 infections and deaths across the U.S. Future policy decisions should be guided by public health considerations rather than political ideology.
    https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S...135-5/fulltext

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    Summary: Democrat governors murdered senior citizens. Later on, manipulators did numbers to show Republicans how dare they not act like the sky is falling. KidnapperGuy's and the board cuckold's vaginas never stopped bleeding for a year.
    You said repeatedly covid is fake derp. So how can Democratic Governors have murdered people with a fake disease?

    You’re really dumb.

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    You're ignoring the premise of the the OP, which is performance after the initial wave, as correlated with ideology at the level of state government.
    yep, NY, NJ, WA got ambushed at the very start when "policies" were still being developed (masks, washing hands, distancing)

    The point was REPUG policies of re-opening after the first wave got them hit worse by the second wave.

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    You said repeatedly covid is fake derp. So how can Democratic Governors have murdered people with a fake disease?

    You’re really dumb.
    Doublethink is part of being a brainwashed tool

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    Yeah, you didn't read the study either. In no way do those stats refute it,.

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    Didn't they hide the deaths on both sides? How tf do we know the actual numbers is my question. Honor code?

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    Yeah, you didn't read the study either. In no way do those stats refute it,.
    "From March to early June, Republican-led states had lower COVID-19 incidence rates compared with Democratic-led states. On June 3, the association reversed, and Republican-led states had higher incidence (RR=1.10, 95% PI=1.01, 1.18). This trend persisted through early December."


    Duh, that's when there were the most deaths in NJ, NY, etc.

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    Didn't they hide the deaths on both sides? How tf do we know the actual numbers is my question. Honor code?
    Easy.

    The conservatives will and moan about "they are paying hospitals to mis-diagnose" or "my best friend's sister's roommate's cousin heard that someone who died in a motorcycle accident was misdiagnosed with COVID". What they can't do, is explain away the total deaths from all causes.

    Actual observed numbers of deaths is THE single most accurate datapoint we have.

    Moving one death, or even a million from one column to another won't change the actual TOTAL number.

    The problem for the s is that the number of deaths, when you get a large population, DOES NOT VARY MUCH FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

    We expected the death rate to be .0088 (that is 0.88%) of the population for 2020, before COVID.

    This translates to roughly 2.9M people.

    What we observed in actuality was 3.4M people, roughly 17% higher than what we expected. One or two percent variances happen all the time.

    17% variances... pretty much never and never without a pretty clear cause.

    The obvious explanation for that excess was the pandemic. It is both plausible, and supported by available evidence.

    Conservatives who want to down play this ... can't wave that number away, but they try, because it makes their cult leader look bad.

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    Didn't they hide the deaths on both sides? How tf do we know the actual numbers is my question. Honor code?
    Further, when you game out the 514K extra deaths, and compare that to the TOTAL official number, which was around 400k as of Dec 31st, you can get a sense of which way the data leads.

    We are undercounting deaths nationally by about 25% or so.

    Many Republican led states want to play politics with the information, and find ways to NOT report deaths as COVID, (i.e. "we only count 100% confirmed cases, not probable or suspected ones") just like they find ways to cheat at elections.

    My guess is that if you took the states actual reported figures, and compared that to the excess deaths by state, you would probably figure out exactly which states were led by Republicans by the amount they undercounted.

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