View Full Version : Dieng to sign with the Spurs
Rummpd
03-29-2021, 02:07 PM
Good player but Pop a lock to screw this up in his semiretired state.
Uriel
03-29-2021, 02:10 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376578574833041408
https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1376577402030161926
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376576441723318277
https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1376578489084690436
https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1376579702274555911
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376573296364388352
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376574485181128707
https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1376578247698354180
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376574709148614657
Love the guy's attitude so far.
Looks like the Spurs still have a good reputation :)
So he picked the Spurs because of culture, system, and Pop.
buttsR4rebounding
03-29-2021, 02:17 PM
Contract details, or it didn't happen...
Hoopshype lists his salary as $729,737.
KingKev
03-29-2021, 03:06 PM
So it sounds like Dieng signed with the Spurs due to a combination of Pop, culture and RC's ties to Africa.
Good stuff and good to know the Spurs can still attract free agents. Can any small market, non-championship contender do that? I can't think of one who can when the playing field is level.
All those whining that culture doesn't matter will ignore this but it looks like proof that culture does matter -- at least a little bit.
Let me play devil’s advocate. How many players has our culture repelled? Rightly or wrongly? Isn’t that a consideration also? Most guys don’t want to play here for many reasons. We signed a formidable backup... Kutos to PATFO, you almost did your job. Winning the Dieng buyout sweepstakes because of your culture isn’t anything to brag about.
Maddog
03-29-2021, 03:15 PM
Let me play devil’s advocate. How many players has our culture repelled? Rightly or wrongly? Isn’t that a consideration also? Most guys don’t want to play here for many reasons. We signed a formidable backup... Kutos to PATFO, you almost did your job. Winning the Dieng buyout sweepstakes because of your culture isn’t anything to brag about.
And you could argue you don't want those players on the team.
Yes it's a pretty small win and in the long term may not translate to a lot, but still says a lot that the organization is still well respected.
PrimeMinister
03-29-2021, 03:25 PM
And you could argue you don't want those players on the team.
Yes it's a pretty small win and in the long term may not translate to a lot, but still says a lot that the organization is still well respected.
im trying to imagine the thought process necessary to argue that the culture and expectations of an organization with the most sustained run of success in NBA history was actually a bad thing overall but I can't do it.
"Tim Duncan was the culture"
Ok go ask Timmy about that and see what he says.
Dejounte
03-29-2021, 03:38 PM
CNBBd8xB2tc
According to Bobby,
The pro rated minimum exception was not used, the MLE was. He claims Dieng was signed to $1 million. As far as if it extends past this year, he didn't say. Probably not.
PrimeMinister
03-29-2021, 03:51 PM
holy shit bobby get to the point
Seventyniner
03-29-2021, 04:02 PM
According to Bobby,
The pro rated minimum exception was not used, the MLE was. He claims Dieng was signed to $1 million. As far as if it extends past this year, he didn't say. Probably not.
Thanks for finding this. :bobo
If Bobby's information is correct, I highly doubt Dieng's contract leaves him under team control for next season. He will command much more than $1M per year in free agency.
Bobby's take that Dieng is better than Aldridge makes me hopeful for the rest of the season. The Spurs didn't even have Aldridge, they had Eubanks at backup C. Dieng is an enormous upgrade when viewed through that lens.
KingKev
03-29-2021, 04:10 PM
And you could argue you don't want those players on the team.
Yes it's a pretty small win and in the long term may not translate to a lot, but still says a lot that the organization is still well respected.
Well respected. By a select few.
KingKev
03-29-2021, 04:11 PM
CNBBd8xB2tc
According to Bobby,
The pro rated minimum exception was not used, the MLE was. He claims Dieng was signed to $1 million. As far as if it extends past this year, he didn't say. Probably not.
Boom thank you sir.
KingKev
03-29-2021, 04:15 PM
im trying to imagine the thought process necessary to argue that the culture and expectations of an organization with the most sustained run of success in NBA history was actually a bad thing overall but I can't do it.
"Tim Duncan was the culture"
Ok go ask Timmy about that and see what he says.
TD half built the culture but is no longer here. Let’s be dynamic. TD has also
been on record many time to challenge the culture. Once upon a time certain players would tolerate, even embrace our culture to play with someone like TD.
KingKev
03-29-2021, 04:20 PM
TD half built the culture but is no longer here. Let’s be dynamic. TD has also
been on record many time to challenge the culture. Once upon a time certain players would tolerate, even embrace our culture to play with someone like TD.
Stephen Jackson was one of his best teammates ever. He barked back at Pop for going too hard on Tony. Pop broke many PGs in the league has often been out of line. Players not named TD have never been allowed to challenge that. The NBA does not operate that way anymore.
heyheymymy
03-29-2021, 05:09 PM
Dieng with some lowkey shots at Aldridge:
" I am here to serve the team. Whatever way the coach wants to use me to help the team, I am willing to do it."
Dieng on minutes: "You play hard, you play well, you are going to play. If not, you are not going to play. That’s the way I see things."
KingKev
03-29-2021, 05:12 PM
Dieng with some lowkey shots at Aldridge:
" I am here to serve the team. Whatever way the coach wants to use me to help the team, I am willing to do it."
Dieng on minutes: "You play hard, you play well, you are going to play. If not, you are not going to play. That’s the way I see things."
Let’s not mistake a good attitude with taking subs.
Joseph Kony
03-29-2021, 05:12 PM
Dieng with some lowkey shots at Aldridge:
" I am here to serve the team. Whatever way the coach wants to use me to help the team, I am willing to do it."
Dieng on minutes: "You play hard, you play well, you are going to play. If not, you are not going to play. That’s the way I see things."
If he were right on that last point Gay wouldn't be eating up minutes over Luka and Lyles would never see a second of floor time again
BackHome
03-29-2021, 06:53 PM
Spurs really need that it definitely helps with the recruiting and keeping players by getting Dieng he will be a really good backup C I can also see Pop playing him and Poodle together I wonder how that will go? I like the signing it will screw with our draft pick but it's good will see what they do this summer?
ace3g
03-29-2021, 09:08 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExsVXaDWQAE7vcj?format=jpg&name=large
slick'81
03-29-2021, 09:09 PM
Atleast spurs are trying to make the playoffs i guess
DPG21920
03-29-2021, 09:10 PM
So it sounds like Dieng signed with the Spurs due to a combination of Pop, culture and RC's ties to Africa.
Good stuff and good to know the Spurs can still attract free agents. Can any small market, non-championship contender do that? I can't think of one who can when the playing field is level.
All those whining that culture doesn't matter will ignore this but it looks like proof that culture does matter -- at least a little bit.
Bruh. Don’t stretch that far. There are far more examples of players asking out of this culture than FA choosing SA because of it. On top of that valuing culture post DPG has resulted in missing the playoffs so it’s not exactly manifesting itself in useful ways as of late.
It’s good to have a great culture but you need actual talent to make it work. Culture being too important also leads to short sightedness and wastefulness as well with regards to asset management
slick'81
03-29-2021, 09:12 PM
Bruh. Don’t stretch that far. There are far more examples of players asking out of this culture than FA choosing SA because of it. On top of that valuing culture post DPG has resulted in missing the playoffs so it’s not exactly manifesting itself in useful ways as of late.
It’s good to have a great culture but you need actual talent to make it work. Culture being too important also leads to short sightedness and wastefulness as well with regards to asset management
exactly. Culture means shit without the stars to lead
patty mills aint gonna cut it
DAF86
03-29-2021, 09:29 PM
It's all about the money.
Pretty much. :lol
KingKev
03-29-2021, 09:38 PM
Bruh. Don’t stretch that far. There are far more examples of players asking out of this culture than FA choosing SA because of it. On top of that valuing culture post DPG has resulted in missing the playoffs so it’s not exactly manifesting itself in useful ways as of late.
It’s good to have a great culture but you need actual talent to make it work. Culture being too important also leads to short sightedness and wastefulness as well with regards to asset management
^^^^ This. Thought I was only Spurs fan left who felt this way.
Ice009
03-29-2021, 10:16 PM
Bruh. Don’t stretch that far. There are far more examples of players asking out of this culture than FA choosing SA because of it. On top of that valuing culture post DPG has resulted in missing the playoffs so it’s not exactly manifesting itself in useful ways as of late.
It’s good to have a great culture but you need actual talent to make it work. Culture being too important also leads to short sightedness and wastefulness as well with regards to asset management
This is pretty much what I've been thinking for years ever since the stupid emphasis on wasting a ton of money on Mills, Gasol etc.
By the way, thanks for signing with the Spurs Gorgui, but you may have chosen the wrong team :(. Another terrible loss.
DPG21920
03-29-2021, 10:56 PM
Culture is a great thing; simply saying it’s not really quantified with regards to winning or landing FA. This was a very unique situation with a lower level player that had a very special connection to RC Buford.
It’s not to totally dismiss this but if you are at all projecting forward based off of this? Mistake.
TD 21
03-30-2021, 03:41 PM
No point in paying him to go away with the brutal schedule we have. Also don’t want to put a big man on the market for Ainge and Riles to fight over.
It's not a big deal obviously. I'm just looking at it from his perspective and the Spurs' history.
The Heat need a backup five and either way, Lyles isn't changing anyone's fortunes.
Culture is a great thing; simply saying it’s not really quantified with regards to winning or landing FA. This was a very unique situation with a lower level player that had a very special connection to RC Buford.
It’s not to totally dismiss this but if you are at all projecting forward based off of this? Mistake.
SpursTalk has narrow viewpoints and short memories.
People were already jumping on the "tank and rebuild" bandwagon well before 2012...you know, when that very same team had 3 straight WCFs, 2 straight Finals, and 1 championship. They conveniently ignore the fact that tanking will piss of an already fickle fan-base and may not even guarantee a top 3 pick, let alone one who is going to turn a franchise around.
So many are waving the "fire Pop" flag without any idea of what a replacement would like, and with little respect to what he has accomplished (insert "Duncan carried him" replies here)
Now people are urging to "change the culture" that the Spurs have built over 20 years....to what exactly? Culture isn't just a new set of tires and a fresh paint job, it takes years and years to develop and just because you are changing directions doesn't mean you are going the right way. For all its warts, most teams in the NBA would still kill to have ANY culture, let alone a culture like the Spurs.
But yeah, a few bad eggs can spoil the bunch, so I guess let's rely on the opinions of the likes of Gasol, Morris, Carrol, and Aldridge to chart the Spurs future.
Everyone is looking for an easy button to solve a complicated problem, and I'm afraid that just doesn't exist.
Winhorst podcast had a thing on the Spurs and a gm for another team (anonymous of course) said the Spurs won the trade deadline and upgraded by releasing LMA and signing Dieng.
Winhorst podcast had a thing on the Spurs and a gm for another team (anonymous of course) said the Spurs won the trade deadline and upgraded by releasing LMA and signing Dieng.
for all the flack the spurs FO caught from ST posters, they actually did quite well. and they didn't take on a bad contract.
DPG21920
03-30-2021, 09:35 PM
SpursTalk has narrow viewpoints and short memories.
People were already jumping on the "tank and rebuild" bandwagon well before 2012...you know, when that very same team had 3 straight WCFs, 2 straight Finals, and 1 championship. They conveniently ignore the fact that tanking will piss of an already fickle fan-base and may not even guarantee a top 3 pick, let alone one who is going to turn a franchise around.
So many are waving the "fire Pop" flag without any idea of what a replacement would like, and with little respect to what he has accomplished (insert "Duncan carried him" replies here)
Now people are urging to "change the culture" that the Spurs have built over 20 years....to what exactly? Culture isn't just a new set of tires and a fresh paint job, it takes years and years to develop and just because you are changing directions doesn't mean you are going the right way. For all its warts, most teams in the NBA would still kill to have ANY culture, let alone a culture like the Spurs.
But yeah, a few bad eggs can spoil the bunch, so I guess let's rely on the opinions of the likes of Gasol, Morris, Carrol, and Aldridge to chart the Spurs future.
Everyone is looking for an easy button to solve a complicated problem, and I'm afraid that just doesn't exist.
I didn’t say change the culture. I said you can’t quantify it and its not leading to wins. Talent is what matters.
Down Under
03-30-2021, 09:42 PM
We now have a perfectly rounded roster of elite role players & a nice level of secondary shot creation to facilitate Kawhi's return on his redemption tour....
I didn’t say change the culture. I said you can’t quantify it and its not leading to wins. Talent is what matters.
Understood. Even though I quoted you, I was really speaking more to the people who prompted this conversation in the first place.
I think someone earlier asked to provide a number of how many people chose NOT to come to San Antonio because of “culture”. That is asking for a quantifiable answer for a question that is impossible to quantify.
DPG21920
03-31-2021, 08:31 PM
Understood. Even though I quoted you, I was really speaking more to the people who prompted this conversation in the first place.
I think someone earlier asked to provide a number of how many people chose NOT to come to San Antonio because of “culture”. That is asking for a quantifiable answer for a question that is impossible to quantify.
Gotcha - makes sense :tu
BatManu20
04-01-2021, 06:44 PM
Wow. Unexpected.
How did the Spurs win that race? Did they give him more than the minimum?
1376695730534903811
Ice009
04-01-2021, 10:51 PM
I appreciate the gesture, Gorgui, but maybe you should have went to another team you could have helped contend for the Championship. Thanks for picking the Spurs, but maybe you should have been a bit more selfish and picked a team that had a chance to go somewhere.
Robz4000
04-01-2021, 11:00 PM
Not too late for the Spurs to do right by him and buy him out fwiw...
bluebellmaniac
04-01-2021, 11:12 PM
Not too late for the Spurs to do right by him and buy him out fwiw...
??? Why buy him out? It wouldn't help him or us.
Robz4000
04-01-2021, 11:31 PM
??? Why buy him out? It wouldn't help him or us.
I was being sarcastic.
bluebellmaniac
04-01-2021, 11:38 PM
I was being sarcastic.
Stick to the pirate code... Blue font.
ace3g
04-02-2021, 03:03 PM
Tony Parker: "Gorgui Dieng can bring a lot to Spurs ..."
Former NBA star, French basketball player Tony Parker is delighted to see Gorgui Sy Dieng join his franchise of heart, the San Antonio Spurs. For Parker, the Senegalese international has all the assets to succeed in his new challenge.
“I think it's going to be okay for him. He joins one of the best teams in the NBA with a coach (Gregg Popovich, editor's note) who is perhaps the best in the history of the NBA and therefore, I think he will be able to progress well there and I think that he is a player who can bring a lot to Spurs ”, confided TP in the columns of Emedias visited by Senego.
In addition, Tony Parker said that the Senegalese are among the best players in the world. “You have a lot of African players who play well, whether in basketball or football, you have players in the best championships in the world. Concerning Senegal, I think that your country is very efficient and in football or basketball, you are among the best ”, he maintains.
https://senego.com/basket-tony-parker-gorgui-dieng-pourra-beaucoup-apporter-aux-spurs_1249515.html
RC_Drunkford
04-02-2021, 06:52 PM
“I think it's going to be okay for him. He joins one of the worst teams in the NBA with a coach (Gregg Popovich, editor's note) who is perhaps the most overrated in the history of the NBA and therefore, I think he will be able to progress well there and I think that he is a player who can bring a lot to Spurs ”
FIFY
mo7888
04-03-2021, 08:50 AM
If we want another shooter... Houston is waiving McLemore..
Lineups of DJ, Vassell, DDR, Luka, and Poeltl
and
White, McLemore, KJ, Rudy, and Dieng
and
DJ, Patty, McLemore, KJ, and Dieng
would be interesting..
PrimeMinister
04-03-2021, 09:35 AM
Lonnie>McLemore by a wide margin
Truckules
04-03-2021, 09:36 AM
If we want another shooter... Houston is waiving McLemore..
Lineups of DJ, Vassell, DDR, Luka, and Poeltl
and
White, McLemore, KJ, Rudy, and Dieng
and
DJ, Patty, McLemore, KJ, and Dieng
would be interesting..
McLemore is basicallly Bryn Forbes but a worse shooter. No thank you.
NASpurs
04-05-2021, 08:03 PM
Spurs climbed from 10 to 4 when they benched Aldridge. Then, they got the COVID wrench thrown in the works, and sputtered, dropping back to 8th. No reason they can’t climb back into the 4-6 range.
:rollin
slick'81
04-05-2021, 08:51 PM
:rollin
Gots to be trolling,tbh
Ed Helicopter Jones
04-08-2021, 11:25 AM
Hasn't looked real comfy in his role so far. But big men typical don't blend into the Spurs' schizm right away.
SpursDynasty85
04-08-2021, 12:37 PM
He should start soon. Spacing looks much better and his defense is good too.
Dejounte
08-03-2022, 03:16 AM
Props to OP for calling it… twice, in fact!
ismael-robert
08-03-2022, 11:33 AM
What did he call? It's a Twitter post
TimDunkem
08-03-2022, 11:39 AM
What did he call? It's a Twitter post
:lol
Dejounte
08-03-2022, 12:09 PM
What did he call? It's a Twitter post
Badum tsss!
RC_Drunkford
08-03-2022, 06:08 PM
Props to OP for calling it… twice, in fact!
I was the one who said they should sign him before it happened :lol
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