Dieng to sign with the Spurs

[Uriel]

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[Uriel]

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[RD2191]

Who?

[Chinook]

Waiving Reynolds or Chriss?

[NASpurs]

Wow actually surprised

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Didn’t he light the spurs up like a month ago on back to back nights?

[LurkingSpursFan]

Best free agent acquisition since LMA and last 5 years.

[exstatic]

Best free agent acquisition since LMA and last 5 years.

Dieng, smellin’ dat summer cash.

[Leetonidas]

Wow that was wholly unexpected. Solid pickup. Sucks for Eubaks

[Seventyniner]

Not bad tbh.

[exstatic]

Riles, still standing with his dick in his hand. Ainge, too. :lol

[timvp]

Wow. Unexpected.

How did the Spurs win that race? Did they give him more than the minimum?

[Spurs Brazil]

Yes, in the Memphis back to back.

[murpjf88]

Wow that was wholly unexpected. Solid pickup. Sucks for Eubaks
No it doesn't. Eubanks is trash.

[emanueldavidginobili]

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Wow I like it, I’m actually stunned he signed with the Spurs over any of those teams tbh.

[NASpurs]

A couple of years ago a lot of us were suggesting trades for him + Covington while they were in Minny. 1 out of 2 is fine at this point. :lol

[exstatic]

Wow. Unexpected.

How did the Spurs win that race? Did they give him more than the minimum?

Anticipation of summer money.

[NASpurs]

Dieng, smellin’ dat summer cash.

Smelling that loyalty contract.

[PrimeMinister]

He definitely had options and chose to come here

not gonna act like this is some huge tier 1 FA but there was serious competition from good teams for his services and he chose the spurs. Says something.

[r0drig0lac]

not bad

[Dejounte]

Wow. This is the best case scenario. Let's celebrate buddy RC_Drunkford

[BatManu20]

Waiving Reynolds or Chriss?

Chriss.


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[NASpurs]

SHAMS:

The Spurs are releasing Marquese Chriss to create roster space for center Gorgui Dieng, sources tell @TheAthletic (https://mobile.twitter.com/TheAthletic)
@Stadium (https://mobile.twitter.com/Stadium)
.

[Seventyniner]

Is there any chance the Spurs had an agreement with Dieng before the LMA trade vs buyout stuff happened? Memphis would have had to give the Spurs permission to talk to him, right? If the Spurs had Dieng in their back pocket all along, it might explain them not being willing to trade LMA for peanuts.

[emanueldavidginobili]

He should definitely help with the spacing problem a little bit that’s for sure.

[timvp]

Anticipation of summer money.

Eh, still pretty unusual. The road to summer money for buyouts is to sign with a championship contender, shine in the spotlight and then cash in. We haven't seen buyout candidates sign with the Knicks of the world in recent years, tbh :lol

I was actually really interested to see which championship contender Dieng signed with because I thought there was a good chance he'd be the best player out of him, Aldridge and Drummond. I can't say that out loud now because it sounds like a homer take. :wow



Still processing this news for the Spurs but obviously Dieng can't hurt. He's better than Eubanks at least. A three-point shooting center who rebounds, passes and is supposedly a positive in the locker room? Not bad at all.

[timvp]

SHAMS:

The Spurs are releasing Marquese Chriss to create roster space for center Gorgui Dieng, sources tell @TheAthletic (https://mobile.twitter.com/TheAthletic)
@Stadium (https://mobile.twitter.com/Stadium)
.

Faith in the front office status: Restoring.

[KobesAchilles]

Man Pop really hates Luka

[exstatic]

He should definitely help with the spacing problem a little bit that’s for sure.

48% on 3s, but 2 attempts per game and only like 20 games. His career % is like 36, so, that would be a more realistic target

[Joseph Kony]

Chriss.


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So our franchise isn't being massive tightwads for insurance money. Thank fuck :tu

[Fusternino]

Do the Spurs still make any money on taking on Chriss, or no?

[exstatic]

Man Pop really hates Luka

No, Eubanks. Luka isn’t a center.

[Chomag]

Interesting.... I wonder what he was promised to pass up those other teams maybe he just wanted to be a spur?

[timvp]

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Dieng would have been a starter for the Raptors and probably the Heat. The Knicks just lost Mitchell Robinson so he could have maybe even started there and then cash in the summer due to all their cap space. The Suns need a backup big and they look pretty legit. The Sixers just traded away Bradley who was their Embiid replacement when hurt.

So, yeah, not sure why Dieng picked the Spurs. Bigger contract? Promised to be a starter over Poeltl? (Can't imagine that, though, thb.) Attracted to culture and coffee gang lifestyle? Can't be big minutes, limelight or championship odds. . .

[slick'81]

Hes a good solid back up center about to be 31/32. Beats jp or ewwbanks who cant shoot a lick

spurs locked up that playoff seed:elephant

[Joseph Kony]

He's shooting 48% from three also :wow

[BatManu20]

Choosing the Spurs who have a real shot at missing the playoffs over teams like the Clips and Sixers tbh.

[BatManu20]

He's shooting 48% from three also :wow

He’s become a bit of a sniper. That’s really most of his offensive game: spot-up 3’s. Especially from the top of the arch.

[sananspursfan21]

Great signing tbh. If Pop gives him minutes that is... got a solid mid range game for the pick and pop, can hit the open three, and helps eat up space down low. A little slow on the perimeter though, so they’d have to watch their switches, but I really like this signing.

[mo7888]

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Now that's a real good and unexpected move...

[timvp]

48% on 3s, but 2 attempts per game and only like 20 games. His career % is like 36, so, that would be a more realistic target

Yeah, we can't go by his percentages this year. There will be some reverting.

Over the last few years, Dieng has shot ~6 threes per 100 possessions. That's right around the rate Vassell and Aldridge shoot threes and more often than Lyles, Murray, Johnson, etc. That should help spacing.

[slick'81]

Hell def take a three or two a game

[exstatic]

Choosing the Spurs who have a real shot at missing the playoffs over teams like the Clips and Sixers tbh.

Spurs climbed from 10 to 4 when they benched Aldridge. Then, they got the COVID wrench thrown in the works, and sputtered, dropping back to 8th. No reason they can’t climb back into the 4-6 range.

[slick'81]

Spurs could of done nothing. They are def all in on the playoffs

[Mal]

Yes, but RIP to Spurs legend Chriss

[NASpurs]

Spurs climbed from 10 to 4 when they benched Aldridge. Then, they got the COVID wrench thrown in the works, and sputtered, dropping back to 8th. No reason they can’t climb back into the 4-6 range.

Not taking into account the grueling schedule with the 2nd hardest SOS? Sure why not.

[Leetonidas]

Tbh you're a sperg if you think Dieng is only marginally better than Eubanks as a backup C

[Leetonidas]

No it doesn't. Eubanks is trash.

Hence my point. Sucks for him since he isn't getting minutes now

[slick'81]

Tbh you're a sperg if you think Dieng is only marginally better than Eubanks as a backup C


He looks like an allstar next to ewwbanks

[EricB]

Chriss will slide back into Lyles’s rotation spot at the end of the year.

[exstatic]

Not taking into account the grueling schedule with the 2nd hardest SOS? Sure why not.

We’ve already jumped up one spot to 7. We also are better equipped for the compressed schedule than most. We deep.

[exstatic]

Chriss will slide back into Lyles’s rotation spot at the end of the year.

Chriss is being waived.

[slick'81]

Chriss will slide back into Lyles’s rotation spot at the end of the year.


Sauces

[timvp]

Dieng's weaknesses: Robotic on both ends. Can be a ballhog at times on offense. Not a swift perimeter defender. When he was younger, basketball IQ was a big problem. It has gotten better but can still be an issue. He turned 31 in January so he's not a youngster.

But on paper he's pretty much a perfect backup for Poeltl. He can shoot. He even has a bit of a postup game. He's strong and rebounds well. He's a better passer than you'd expect. Good post defender. Runs the court pretty well.

If he fits, he's probably worth re-signing on a two-year contract. Bigs of his ilk age pretty well ... and he inexplicably (at this point) picked the Spurs so that has to be worth something :tu

[stephen jackson]

I like it he killed us in Memphis this year takes awake that from them at least

[PrimeMinister]

Having an obvious counter to the 2-3 aside from Rudy at the 5 where the spurs get outrebounded and destroyed in the paint is huge

A lot of situational adjusting that can be done now.

The type of addition to a roster at a key time that can have an impact beyond the box score output. Having a center that can give completely different looks to a defense instead of 2 energy bigs with limited range takes pressure off the entire roster.

can’t believe the stars aligned. Take the role that was envisioned behind Jakob for LA and the spurs got a more capable, younger, and better player to fill it.

[slick'81]

Spurs will def look to resign him. He does seem like a perfect spur player

[Leetonidas]

Can't wait to see Dejountes 10000 word essay analyzing this move and the potential ramifications:lol

[NASpurs]

We’ve already jumped up one spot to 7. We also are better equipped for the compressed schedule than most. We deep.

We’re not as deep as you think and it doesn’t help when the coach has obvious favoritisms that shorten the bench. We’re also 2 losses away from being out of the top 8.

[EricB]

Chriss is being waived.

I understand. At the end of the season, Chriss will be brought back, pretty much sliding into lyle’s current spot in the roster..

[Teamduncan21]

Do the Spurs still make any money on taking on Chriss, or no?


Warriors paid more than his remaining salary in cash. So basically warriors paid chris's salary + premium. Spurs get to keep the premium.

[bluebellmaniac]

So Memphis didn't do a buyout? Just waived him? What was the incentive for that?

[slick'81]

We’re not as deep as you think and it doesn’t help when the coach has obvious favoritisms that shorten the bench. We’re also 2 losses away from being out of the top 8.


Spurs are makng the playoffs bruh! Believe!

[timvp]

So I guess the plan was to keep Chriss and cash in on that juicy insurance money unless something unexpected happened. Something unexpected happened.

Golden State spent only like $3.2 million to dump Wanamaker and Chriss ... so the Spurs, by waiving Chriss, didn't even profit that much in the trade. They would have profited a lot more by keeping Chriss.

It's safe to say the Holts aren't on food stamps. Good sign.

[timvp]

I understand. At the end of the season, Chriss will be brought back, pretty much sliding into lyle’s current spot in the roster..

Chriss might be the most anti-Spur player in the league. Can't see that happening, tbh. If they liked Chriss at all, they could have just waived Reynolds. Waiving Chriss lost the Spurs quite a bit in insurance money. Waiving Reynolds would have been a couple dollars.

[slick'81]

So guessing minimun deal for the remainder?

[EricB]

Chriss might be the most anti-Spur player in the league. Can't see that happening, tbh. If they liked Chriss at all, they could have just waived Reynolds. Waiving Chriss lost the Spurs quite a bit in insurance money. Waiving Reynolds would have been a couple dollars.

we’ll see.

[exstatic]

I understand. At the end of the season, Chriss will be brought back, pretty much sliding into lyle’s current spot in the roster..

Spurs aren’t going to sign a guy with a YouTube NBA fight compilation video. They only traded for him because of the cash considerations. By waiving him, they forfeited even Early Bird rights.

[slick'81]

we’ll see.


Oh

[RD2191]

Horrible signing. We should be all in for the tank.

[spurraider21]

nice

[slick'81]

Horrible signing. We should be all in for the tank.

Playoffs or bust for sa

[JPB]

So Memphis didn't do a buyout? Just waived him? What was the incentive for that?

Well, you lose money in a buyout.

[GAustex]

Why did Memphis cut him loose if he is useful?

[Dejounte]

Can't wait to see Dejountes 10000 word essay analyzing this move and the potential ramifications:lol

Lmao not much needs to be said

Thedrewshow posts in this thread are entertaining per usual and he's gonna shit on me for thinking different, but it's okay my friend, we can all disagree sometimes...that's what makes it a community. Love you, Drew!


Love this signing. Probably the best backup center that was available.

The meltdown over the Chriss trade in retrospect is funny.

[PrimeMinister]

Why did Memphis cut him loose if he is useful?

kicking tires on young players and with JJJ coming back they have Jonas as the back up

doing a favor to a good dude and player

[slick'81]

Why did Memphis cut him loose if he is useful?


Couldnt find a trade with his contract and arent bringing him back anyway.

[GAustex]

Thanks

[NASpurs]

Good Job making THIS https://i.imgur.com/8lXPk4y.pngFuggits moves make some type of sense

the Well he did throw away millions but heck.... They can afford it...

WHY IS THIS CROSS EYED TURD STILL HERE !!>!>!>!>!>!

BRIAN WRONG!!!!

Looks like a NBA2k character model. The guy is missing a few polygons.

[sananspursfan21]

Yes, but RIP to Spurs legend Chriss

I was really close to starting one of those “seedy places of ‘worship’ of Marquese Chriss” threads :lol

[pad300]

Well, well, well, that's a FTL move. I think TiMVP is right; he is probably the best player of the 3 between him, Aldridge, and Drummond. WhyTF did he pick us though?

[timvp]

So Memphis didn't do a buyout? Just waived him? What was the incentive for that?Buyouts technically involved being waived. I assume he gave up money but haven't seen specifics yet.


So guessing minimun deal for the remainder?Probably. But the Spurs could have given him more. They had a majority of the MLE to spend. It's even possible the Spurs gave him a multi-year deal. Hopefully we get details soon.

[mo7888]

The meltdown over the Chriss trade in retrospect is funny.

I admit...I'm guilty....I'll own it...

[Dejounte]

Didn't Dieng have a 19 PER for the Grizzlies? Calling R. DeMurre

[paperboy77]

Dieng's weaknesses: Robotic on both ends. Can be a ballhog at times on offense. Not a swift perimeter defender. When he was younger, basketball IQ was a big problem. It has gotten better but can still be an issue. He turned 31 in January so he's not a youngster.

But on paper he's pretty much a perfect backup for Poeltl. He can shoot. He even has a bit of a postup game. He's strong and rebounds well. He's a better passer than you'd expect. Good post defender. Runs the court pretty well.

If he fits, he's probably worth re-signing on a two-year contract. Bigs of his ilk age pretty well ... and he inexplicably (at this point) picked the Spurs so that has to be worth something :tu

Good shot blocker too.

[Uriel]

Dieng would have been a starter for the Raptors and probably the Heat. The Knicks just lost Mitchell Robinson so he could have maybe even started there and then cash in the summer due to all their cap space. The Suns need a backup big and they look pretty legit. The Sixers just traded away Bradley who was their Embiid replacement when hurt.

So, yeah, not sure why Dieng picked the Spurs. Bigger contract? Promised to be a starter over Poeltl? (Can't imagine that, though, thb.) Attracted to culture and coffee gang lifestyle? Can't be big minutes, limelight or championship odds. . .
My guess is he was won over by slightly more money and the chance to play for Pop.

[cd98]

So how does this help us get into the lottery?

[Uriel]

In any case, it looks like we upgraded from Aldridge to Dieng and our rotation is now set:

C: Poeltl / Dieng
PF: DeRozan / Gay
SF: Johnson
SG: White / Walker
PG: Murray / Mills

That's a pretty solid 9-man rotation :wow

[paperboy77]

Definitely an upgrade to the state of the team. Solid vet with good shooting and timely defense. Honestly.... we’ll get more out of this guy than LA. And he won’t negatively impact any of the youngsters progress besides drew. I guess Drew is just going to have to wait till next year.

[slick'81]

My guess is he was won over by slightly more money and the chance to play for Pop.


We just jumped to 7th....fck the lottery

[slick'81]

Buyouts technically involved being waived. I assume he gave up money but haven't seen specifics yet.

Probably. But the Spurs could have given him more. They had a majority of the MLE to spend. It's even possible the Spurs gave him a multi-year deal. Hopefully we get details soon.

spurs def could of thrown some cash his way. Plus im sure hes all but guaranteed minutes behind foul prone jakob

[paperboy77]

In any case, it looks like we upgraded from Aldridge to Dieng and our rotation is now set:

C: Poeltl / Dieng
PF: DeRozan / Gay
SF: Johnson
SG: White / Walker
PG: Murray / Mills

That's a pretty solid 9-man rotation :wow.

I still think it wouldn’t hurt if they go with Luka at the 4, DD at the 3 and have Johnson dominate off the bench. Luka has proven to not be too much of a liability anymore. Curtail his minutes if necessary. Just keep building his confidence.

[YoungbuckMurray]

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I still think it wouldn’t hurt if they go with Luka at the 4, DD at the 3 and have Johnson dominate off the bench. Luka has proven to not be too much of a liability anymore. Curtail his minutes if necessary. Just keep building his confidence.

i wouldn’t mind a 10 man rotation and just tick down everyone’s mins just a little. Even if it’s Luka getting like 10 mins total a night. I think he could thrive in that role and keep everyone fresh

[Dex]

Just glad to have some good news from the FO for a change.

Looks like we were all jumping the gun assuming they were just angling to save their lunch money.

Diengs not a huge coup or anything...but a lot of "bigger teams" were hoping for him.

[DPG21920]

Very solid. He’s more impactful than Drummond imo.

[Dejounte]

Definitely an upgrade to the state of the team. Solid vet with good shooting and timely defense. Honestly.... we’ll get more out of this guy than LA. And he won’t negatively impact any of the youngsters progress besides drew. I guess Drew is just going to have to wait till next year.

Drew is our Matt Bonner. Locker room guy and that's it, which is fine, everybody needs one. See: Nick Collison, Udonis Haslem.

[cd98]

Wow that was wholly unexpected. Solid pickup. Sucks for Eubaks

No, based on history, it's practically guaranteed that Detroit will sign him this offseason.

[Joseph Kony]

more important than the pickup itself is that a FA big man who by all accounts was coveted by some of the other contending teams chose to come to SA for whatever reason. mean's our franchise isn't as big of a dumpster fire as some people here think. Obviously Dieng isn't Anthony Davis or anything but the fact is he could have started and being competing for a ring in Miami or been a main cog somewhere like LAC and instead chose the Spurs. small boost to confidence in the FO tbh :tu

[Spursfanfromafar]

Dieng's weaknesses: Robotic on both ends. Can be a ballhog at times on offense. Not a swift perimeter defender. When he was younger, basketball IQ was a big problem. It has gotten better but can still be an issue. He turned 31 in January so he's not a youngster.

But on paper he's pretty much a perfect backup for Poeltl. He can shoot. He even has a bit of a postup game. He's strong and rebounds well. He's a better passer than you'd expect. Good post defender. Runs the court pretty well.

If he fits, he's probably worth re-signing on a two-year contract. Bigs of his ilk age pretty well ... and he inexplicably (at this point) picked the Spurs so that has to be worth something :tu

Fair analysis. Another weakness is that he is a bit foul-prone. But he can block shots decently, has a high steal rate for a big and he rebounds really well too. He played very good team defense in his later seasons with the TimberPups.

I think he chose the Spurs as he is quite a character guy, does a lot of community work and comes from an international background - the Spurs are known to foster an international outlook in their teams (at least in the past). He will get along beautifully with Patty's bench gang.

[SPURt]

We stacked fam!!! For real though, Dieng is a good piece. I don’t see this being the Luka blocker, but I do like the Malik Rose type energy of Eubanks. Gay and Mills reluctance to pass are really the only two things I don’t enjoy watching. Otherwise, this isn’t my least favorite Spurs team.

[duncan2150]

Really like this sign, i was for a better back up big since a long time and gorgui is nearly the perfect fit.

Really good sign by the FO.

[ginobilized]

My faith in the FO is being slowly restored. This is making more sense. I think we got better in some key ways providing that chemistry/learning curve are not huge issues.

Makes me curious about some things:

- Was this the "plan" all along?
- Did Dieng see the writing on the wall early enough to make an extra effort to show the Spurs what he could do in their most recent games?
- Does Cam Reynolds have a shot at sticking?
- Will this prove to bolster morale a bit? The trade deadline seemed to bring out some horrible play, body language, etc.

[justinandimcool]

poor Eubanks lol

[Dejounte]

He gives a new dimension to the offense, something Rudy and Aldridge both failed miserably to do.

While he's foul prone, we're not expecting him to play over 20 minutes. He's the perfect big in a sense that we now won't look like garbage when Poeltl subs out. This is all assuming he gets the system right away and doesn't need much time to get acclimated. It will probably take ~5 games to plug him in.

[bluebellmaniac]

Well, you lose money in a buyout.

You're on the hook for the full amount after he clears waivers.

[Robz4000]

Solid pickup :tu

[gambit1990]

was he not getting PT in memphis? they’re still in the playoff hunt...

[exstatic]

was he not getting PT in memphis? they’re still in the playoff hunt...

He’s only played ~20 games for them.

[KingKev]

Reminiscent of an Andre Miller, TMAC, Glenn Robinson Kevin Martin level signing. At least we were a formidable playoff team during those additions. Spurstalk getting wet over this is understandably a sign of the times.

[duncan2150]

was he not getting PT in memphis? they’re still in the playoff hunt...


They are playing small, Clarke can play some 5 and they like Tillman.

[justinandimcool]

Reminiscent of an Andre Miller, TMAC, Glenn Robinson Kevin Martin level signing. At least we were a formidable playoff team during those additions. Spurstalk getting wet over this is understandably a sign of the times.


Dieng was never as good as those players in their primes but he isn’t as washed as those guys were when they signed with the Spurs

[td4mvp2k]

released chriss for 31yo dieng :lol great job poop!

[rankingtear]

released chriss for 31yo dieng :lol great job poop!

:donkey

[SpurPadre]

Again, I still rather tank and position ourselves better for the draft but they're determined to make the playoffs so I hope this strategy works out for them.

[EricB]

Reminiscent of an Andre Miller, TMAC, Glenn Robinson Kevin Martin level signing. At least we were a formidable playoff team during those additions. Spurstalk getting wet over this is understandably a sign of the times.


except it’s not.

[KingKev]

Dieng was never as good as those players in their primes but he isn’t as washed as those guys were when they signed with the Spurs

My argument is it’s an absolute rounding error just like those late season additions were.

[heyheymymy]

Turns out the spurs are still pretty calculating and savvy.

This one piece gets the team so much further down the road. And I'm impressed by the front office and their ability to resist low level lateral moves.

Wondering if this was the plan all along and sitting pat on the deadline wasn't as bad as it looked.

I still argue that the league has a problem with respecting contractual obligations.

Shit, do we really even know that Dieng is coming? What if we get Morris'd again.

And that's 3 contracts busted in a row for spurs and their fans. (Leonard, Morris, LMA)

I'll believe it when I see Dieng checking in, lol.

But this kinda levels things out for me. I felt disrespected by the breaches of contract and the league allowing it. But I bet we got "reparations" or whatever under the table. I'm not against suspecting that Keldon, Luka, and Vass were essentially "given" to the team like a free selection of your choice to make up for the rug getting pulled out from under them. So Silver taketh away but also giveth or whatever lol.

I still feel like we had a top 4 in the league talent wise hole at SF that had long term builds around it and when Leonard bailed it left a multi season recovery that is just now healed up. Future is pretty bright now.

[rankingtear]

Turns out the spurs are still pretty calculating and savvy.

This one piece gets the team so much further down the road. And I'm impressed by the front office and their ability to resist low level lateral moves.

Wondering if this was the plan all along and sitting pat on the deadline wasn't as bad as it looked.

I still argue that the league has a problem with respecting contractual obligations.

Shit, do we really even know that Dieng is coming? What if we get Morris'd again.

And that's 3 contracts busted in a row for spurs and their fans. (Leonard, Morris, LMA)

I'll believe it when I see Dieng checking in, lol.

But this kinda levels things out for me. I felt disrespected by the breaches of contract and the league allowing it. But I bet we got "reparations" or whatever under the table. I'm not against suspecting that Keldon, Luka, and Vass were essentially "given" to the team like a free selection of your choice to make up for the rug getting pulled out from under them. So Silver taketh away but also giveth or whatever lol.

I still feel like we had a top 4 in the league talent wise hole at SF that had long term builds around it and when Leonard bailed it left a multi season recovery that is just now healed up. Future is pretty bright now.

WTF?!

[Sugus]

Wait, wait, WAIT a minute..... You're telling me the Spurs actually spent money they didn't have to spend, and waived Marquesse "free insurance money for the bankrupt FO" Chriss, AND got the most coveted FA big man off the buyout market, beating contenders like Miami and Boston to the punch for the signing?!?

SpursTalk cliffjumping stays delicious as always, bois. Time to bump a few of those takes on the trade deadline thread :lol

In all seriousness, good-to-great signing by the FO. We'll have to wait and see how he plays before passing judgement, but on paper, he's absolutely everything we lacked (I can picture RC_Drunkford dancing on the ceiling at this very moment over finally achieving the shooting bigman dream :lol) and is a perfect change of game to compliment Poeltl. But honestly, the most improvement will be in Pop not being forced to go hyper small with :vomit:Rudy Gay at the 5:vomit:, or worse, Lyles or Luka at the 5 :shootme.

On the other hand, Pop not being able to easily put Rudy at the 5 might mean that he'll stay more on the court as PF, further limiting Luka's minutes.... We might be regretting this signing before long lmao

[KingKev]

Turns out the spurs are still pretty calculating and savvy.

This one piece gets the team so much further down the road. And I'm impressed by the front office and their ability to resist low level lateral moves.

Wondering if this was the plan all along and sitting pat on the deadline wasn't as bad as it looked.

I still argue that the league has a problem with respecting contractual obligations.

Shit, do we really even know that Dieng is coming? What if we get Morris'd again.

And that's 3 contracts busted in a row for spurs and their fans. (Leonard, Morris, LMA)

I'll believe it when I see Dieng checking in, lol.

But this kinda levels things out for me. I felt disrespected by the breaches of contract and the league allowing it. But I bet we got "reparations" or whatever under the table. I'm not against suspecting that Keldon, Luka, and Vass were essentially "given" to the team like a free selection of your choice to make up for the rug getting pulled out from under them. So Silver taketh away but also giveth or whatever lol.

I still feel like we had a top 4 in the league talent wise hole at SF that had long term builds around it and when Leonard bailed it left a multi season recovery that is just now healed up. Future is pretty bright now.

so Dieng was all we needed to brighten the future? This isn’t “reparations” or karma for any of those three major franchise derailments. This isn’t adding Diaw or Nazr to a championship contender to potentially put them over the hump. It’s adding a decent backup to a terribly constructed roster of only supporting cast players.

[gospursgojas]

Would it be too much of a homer take to say he’s actually an upgrade over Lamarcus?

[spurspl]

so 2 days ago pop was saying only good things about chriss and today spurs waived him just to sign an old slow ass from minnesota...pathetic

[Sugus]

Again, I still rather tank and position ourselves better for the draft but they're determined to make the playoffs so I hope this strategy works out for them.

I'm in the same boat, but with such a clear playoff push from the FO, you just gotta enjoy the ride and hope for the best, or stop watching altogether, like most ST trolls do. There'll be plenty time to tank after Pop's gone, and I'm not particularly looking forward to it, since I'll likely still be watching those games. Hope springs eternal... Dieng is that final piece that unlocks the title run, heard it here first :flag: :lobt:

[mo7888]

Would it be too much of a homer take to say he’s actually an upgrade over Lamarcus?

Nope...he's a better player for this team at this time than LMA.

[KingKev]

WTF?!

He is def on to something but it wasn’t Silver, more likely the spirit of David Stern for fking us all those years. I also think because we traded Rodman for Will Perdue to help solidify Jordan’s legacy Stern fixed the ball drop so we could draft Tim Duncan.

[Sugus]

Would it be too much of a homer take to say he’s actually an upgrade over Lamarcus?

Not at all - on paper at least (fit and play with the team still TBD), he's a LMA 2.0, tbh. Shoots the 3 pretty well, much better rebounder, much younger (31 vs 35yo), a bit better defensively just in lieu of not having paste for knees, that kinda stuff. If you watched the Memphis Massacre this season, he was killing us, raining 3's over our players like nobody's business :lol

[R. DeMurre]

Didn't Dieng have a 19 PER for the Grizzlies? Calling R. DeMurre (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14577)

:lol He's shooting 47% from 3 this year. That's good. That's like Paige-Bueckers-good.

[SpurPadre]

Would it be too much of a homer take to say he’s actually an upgrade over Lamarcus?

Not at all. Of course, 31 year old LMA>>>>>>>>>>>Dieng but that LMA waved bye bye a long time ago.

[rankingtear]

He is def on to something but it wasn’t Silver, more likely the spirit of David Stern for fking us all those years. I also think because we traded Rodman for Will Perdue to help solidify Jordan’s legacy Stern fixed the ball drop so we could draft Tim Duncan.

:donkey

[spurs10]

Great news! This is an upgrade to our roster. Wonder how many minutes he'll play in the rotation.

Gas up the riverboats!! :flag:

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Great signing.

Could it be that LMA actually did give up more money and the Spurs have used their MLE to offer him a decent 3 year deal or something like that?

Bonus points for dicking Miami, Boston and LA.

[heyheymymy]

Definitely feel like Dieng is a much better fit than pretty much every proposed scenario from the deadline thread. I feel like he plugs the hole of roster needs pretty snug and is the type of player pop can juice for more production than other teams got. I really like this move. Extrapolate development from the core around Dieng moving forward and assume improvements there, Dieng complements that development and gets us through as a decent stopgap till future options arise. Yes, that brightens the immediate future slightly moreso than 3rd stringer Eubanks or "broken leg guy"

Yes, I am a little suspicious of the quick development from recent picks compared to 2010-2015 and think it's a slight uptick from talent levels we are accustomed to seeing. You don't like my theory that we got certain allowances as a make up for busted contracts? Lol just getting a little CIA pop here but 2019 was a incredibly efficient draft for SA and Vass is right behind slightly less robust yet still with more immediate upside than historically typical. I sense a little favoritism but it's just a notion.

[stephen jackson]

I’m happy with a poertl dieng rotation

[JPB]

You're on the hook for the full amount after he clears waivers.

Hum, no. When a team claims a player off waivers, it assumes his current contract and is on the hook for the remainder of his salary.

[exstatic]

so 2 days ago pop was saying only good things about chriss and today spurs waived him just to sign an old slow ass from minnesota...pathetic

Please provide a link to anyone of PATFO saying anything about Chriss, positive or negative. Your certainty means you can surely provide one...

[SpursDynasty85]

Ok. The guy is 31. That makes more sense. Felt like he was 28 or something. Quite a good fit. He can probably play alongside Poeltl in bigger line ups and the ones where we okay 3 guards.

[timvp]

I'm not against suspecting that Keldon, Luka, and Vass were essentially "given" to the team like a free selection of your choice to make up for the rug getting pulled out from under them.


He is def on to something but it wasn’t Silver, more likely the spirit of David Stern for fking us all those years. I also think because we traded Rodman for Will Perdue to help solidify Jordan’s legacy Stern fixed the ball drop so we could draft Tim Duncan.

Delusional, conspiracy theory Spurs fans are an interesting branch of this fandom.

[Dejounte]

With this hole being filled and assuming he does a good job, Spurs only need to worry about finding a big wing and/or depth at the four during this upcoming off-season.

[Dejounte]

Two games where he killed us:


https://youtu.be/ruqlB7dGXnc


https://youtu.be/QHi67LqtiP0

[KingKev]

Delusional, conspiracy theory Spurs fans are an interesting branch of this fandom.

so are sub par beat writers who don’t understand sarcasm

[LeBowen]

With this hole being filled and assuming he does a good job, Spurs only need to worry about finding a big wing and/or depth at the four during this upcoming off-season.

Yeah, this is a perfect fit. Hopefully he signs something like 10/2 in the summer. Couldn't ask for a better backup in this market, tbh.

We definitely need a big wing, but everything else is unknown until Demar situation is resolved.

[duncan2k5]

There's no good future where DeMar is involved

[Budkin]

This is surprising and welcome news!

[rankingtear]

There's no good future where DeMar is involved

Classic duncan2k

[LeBowen]

There's no good future where DeMar is involved


I actually agree.

I think he's a good player, but a terrible fit with the rest of the roster. And doesn't fit the timeline.

There won't be much cap space available in the summer and a good S&T deal for Demar should be PATFO's top priority.
I can't see 32 year old Demar signing a team friendly deal and he surely isn't worth anything more than low 20s per year.

Right now our starting C has absolutely no range, Demar refuses to shoot, DJ and Keldon are subpar at best. Simply can't work in 2021.
And starting lineup stats prove it. One of Lonnie or Vassell has to start. Since Keldon is the only one who has size and doesn't play like a pussy, that means either DJ or Derrick will have to be benched.

That can change if we get an actual floor spacer in Demar's place. It's up to PATFO to decide if they want to stick with no-3, no-D guy in 2021 and beyond, or they want to play modern basketball.

[GAustex]

He is right
DDR is not the answer especially for the $

[SpursDynasty85]

Great news! This is an upgrade to our roster. Wonder how many minutes he'll play in the rotation.

Gas up the riverboats!! :flag:

No way he chose the Spurs to ride the bench. :)

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Not quite as pumped as some of you. I see a 31 year old 6ppg and 5 rbg player about to get resigned by a size starved Spurs team this off-season for 3 years 45 million.

[exstatic]

No way he chose the Spurs to ride the bench. :)
Uh, he’s only started like 40% of his games played for his entire career. He’ll be fine coming off the bench, unlike Mah Touches...

[Mr. Body]

Essentially we traded a disgruntled LaMarcus Aldridge who the team didn't really want to play, anyway, and Cady LaLallane, for a vet who can protect the rim and hit outside shots, a chance to evaluate a semi-bust in Chriss, and some straight cash for a team who doesn't have any ticket receipts for the entire season?

How many of y'all already jumped off that cliff?

[Dejounte]

https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/gorgui-farm-project.jpeg

https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/gogrgui-orphanage-e1512626131362.jpeg?w=800

Apparently a great guy off the court. Read that he built a hospital for his community in Senegal and is doing all kinds of charitable work.

[SpursDynasty85]

With this hole being filled and assuming he does a good job, Spurs only need to worry about finding a big wing and/or depth at the four during this upcoming off-season.


I thought you like Keldon and Luka at the 4? Just trying to see where you think Luka and Keldon fit in exactly. I agree that this is the type of player we need now only because I think Keldon is a 3 and should only play 4 situationally.

[Joseph Kony]

Not quite as pumped as some of you. I see a 31 year old 6ppg and 5 rbg player about to get resigned by a size starved Spurs team this off-season for 3 years 45 million.

So Poeltl's backup is going to get offered more than Poeltl? :lol

[Gibbz]

He sniffed out that summer cap space like a truffle pig.

[SpursDynasty85]

https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/gorgui-farm-project.jpeg

https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/gogrgui-orphanage-e1512626131362.jpeg?w=800

Apparently a great guy off the court. Read that he built a hospital for his community in Senegal and is doing all kinds of charitable work.


Great stuff thanks for posting. Good reminder that these players can keep basketball and life into perspective!

[ThaBigFundamental21]

He sniffed out that summer cap space like a truffle pig.

My thoughts too.

[heyheymymy]

Delusional, conspiracy theory Spurs fans are an interesting branch of this fandom.

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/19/193129082d46c5ecdb9fd1cf42632ba28752019bcb663b0c02 b88a1b2f4e3d44.jpg

[SpursDynasty85]

Uh, he’s only started like 40% of his games played for his entire career. He’ll be fine coming off the bench, unlike Mah Touches...


Thats fine, Your definition of "riding the bench" is different from mine. Trey Lyles is "riding the bench". Rudy Gay and Patty Mills are not "riding the bench". He should be at the very least taking Eubanks spot and taking some of Poeltl's minutes if he is playing well.

[murpjf88]

Two games where he killed us:


https://youtu.be/ruqlB7dGXnc


https://youtu.be/QHi67LqtiP0


Everybody lights up the Spurs so that's not saying much. Do you have highlights of him lighting someone else up? How well does he guard the perimeter three?

[Dejounte]

I thought you like Keldon and Luka at the 4? Just trying to see where you think Luka and Keldon fit in exactly. I agree that this is the type of player we need now only because I think Keldon is a 3 and should only play 4 situationally.

I don't "like" Keldon at the 4, but I've come to terms that's pretty much what will happen if:

1) DeMar is back
2) Keldon doesn't improve his lateral quickness

If DeMar is gone, then yeah, I can see Keldon putting in more time at the 3. That's when we'll need a sharpshooter right behind him.

Regarding Luka, whether he starts next year or not, it would be great to add some competition for him at that spot preferably NOT Rudy Gay. I'm hoping maybe Nicolas Batum will come here.

[Dejounte]

Everybody lights up the Spurs so that's not saying much. Do you have highlights of him lighting someone else up? How well does he guard the perimeter three?

Dieng has a lot of highlights online, I just specifically sought out the games against the Spurs.

Listen, no one is expecting Dieng to light it up or become a top tier role player on this team.

For everyone who has been watching, they know that since LMA left the backup C has been a BIG hole that's impacting wins and losses. We're playing Rudy Gay out of position and then having to play Eubanks, who is like a deer in headlights most of the time.

Dieng is NOT the savior of this team. But he fixes a couple rotation flaws. We'll see what positive impact he has, assuming he understands the Spurs' system quickly enough.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

I don't "like" Keldon at the 4, but I've come to terms that's pretty much what will happen if:

1) DeMar is back
2) Keldon doesn't improve his lateral quickness

If DeMar is gone, then yeah, I can see Keldon putting in more time at the 3. That's when we'll need a sharpshooter right behind him.

Regarding Luka, whether he starts next year or not, it would be great to add some competition for him at that spot preferably NOT Rudy Gay. I'm hoping maybe Nicolas Batum will come here.

Never understood Spurstalk's obsession with Batum. Especially not now that he is 98 years old and washed up. Pass

[NASpurs]

The cum mushroom cloud over San Antonio caused by Gorgui Dieng is an amazing sight to behold. :lol

Is this what it feels like when a desparate guy gets glanced by an average girl?

[Dejounte]

Never understood Spurstalk's obsession with Batum. Especially not now that he is 98 years old and washed up. Pass

I understand your assessment, but the guy is fitting in like a glove on a contender team this season and it looks like when he's motivated, he's a plus player.

If not Batum, there's a couple other guys out there that can improve the depth at the 4, like maybe Otto Porter Jr.

[timvp]

Some more random thoughts after digesting the news a bit more:

-The Grizzlies waiving him shouldn't be viewed as suspicious, IMO. In addition to Valanciunas, they've basically figured out that Brandon Clarke is a center. Xavier Tillman is a rookie center who is deserving of minutes. Two other rookie centers on their roster are pretty interesting: Killian Tille and Jontay Porter. Considering I would have loved Tillman, Tille or Porter in the second round of the last two drafts, I can't blame them for waiving Dieng. You can't have six centers in today's NBA.

-What reason will Dieng give to picking the Spurs? My guesses, in order, would be: 1) Culture/coffee gang 2) Pop 3) Long-term fit 4) Money 5) Promise of minutes

-I don't see Dieng playing a ton of minutes. Poeltl will get his 25-30. There are a number of teams that don't even play backup centers anymore so Dieng wouldn't see many minutes in those games. My guess is he'll average 15 to 18 minutes per game.

-If you're Eubanks, you have to be a little saddened. But, like others have mentioned, Poeltl backed up by Eubanks is suboptimal for the Spurs because they have similar strengths and weaknesses. Dieng is a totally different player than Poeltl, which is useful. Eubanks is a high-quality third string center who is signed to a very affordable contract. I think he has shown enough to date to keep open the possibility that he's eventually a rotation piece on a playoff team. Considering where his NBA journey began (started playing basketball late, uneven college career, undrafted), that's still impressive.

-I don't anticipate any Poeltl/Dieng pairings. It could happen since Dieng is more mobile than 35-year-old Aldridge but I wouldn't want Pop to get into that habit.

-Could Dieng be the closing center? It's possible. Hak-a-Jak is getting more popular and Pop has historically preferred playing shooting bigs to close out games. The main issue is Poeltl's a much savvier player so that might trump Dieng's shooting.

-This is probably the strangest buyout signing since Drew Gooden. The Spurs didn't have obvious minutes for Gooden and he was known as a me-first player ... but he decided to sign with the Spurs anyways. That ultimately didn't really work out but the Spurs had use for his scoring ability down the stretch of that season.

-Could Dieng be a bust? Oh, yeah, that's a possibility. His robotic play isn't a natural fit in a system that relies so much on synchronized movements. There's a chance he's a liability on both ends if he can't adjust. But, assuming he won't be signed to a multi-year deal right away, the risk is miniscule. The upside is there for him to become a very important part of the team. If the transition goes smoothly, he could be the difference in a few extra wins down the stretch.

[cd98]

Wow he signed with us despite Danny Ferry being in the front office.

[spurspl]

Please provide a link to anyone of PATFO saying anything about Chriss, positive or negative. Your certainty means you can surely provide one...

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1375221441206087682

[spurs10]

https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/gorgui-farm-project.jpeg

https://theundefeated.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/gogrgui-orphanage-e1512626131362.jpeg?w=800

Apparently a great guy off the court. Read that he built a hospital for his community in Senegal and is doing all kinds of charitable work. Sounds like a great guy! Welcome!

[Russ]

Looks like a stop-gap acquisition.

The Spurs eventually need to address their big situation with a younger player with considerably more upside.

Kai Jones might work if he somehow slips to where they draft.

In the meantime, this guy should help during the playoff run.

[widowmaker]

The cum mushroom cloud over San Antonio caused by Gorgui Dieng is an amazing sight to behold. :lol

Is this what it feels like when a desparate guy gets glanced by an average girl?



I don’t know. Does it?

[KingKev]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1375221441206087682

haha I was just about to post this. Let’s start making Ex post receipts for some his BS.

[NASpurs]

I don’t know. Does it?

That's why I was asking you bruh.

[GAustex]

Ew burn the burner

[KingKev]

Please provide a link to anyone of PATFO saying anything about Chriss, positive or negative. Your certainty means you can surely provide one...

I enjoy watching you get owned. It’s the hubris coupled with silence when you are wrong for me. It happens DAILY.

[the golden era]

The cum mushroom cloud over San Antonio caused by Gorgui Dieng is an amazing sight to behold. :lol

Is this what it feels like when a desparate guy gets glanced by an average girl?

Yes

[MackSpur58]

The ONE YEAR he shot over 100 3rs (150) it was .355%, not bad but just the collative Average for the League this year.

You nerds go ON and ON about Sample size this Sample Size that until you DONT

Fucking SPergs Bolded Donks

In the Long RUN this MEANS NOTHING because
A. He aint gonna get 22 minutes like he does in Memphis to this point
B. He over da Hill
C. Marginaly 'beter' in the short term that Eubanks i guess depending on more eye test spurgs donk shit...

lol What about that RENFRO dude lol the PER 36 king of Spurmstalk experts this year

Can't wait for the translation to English on this one.

[The Truth #6]

Makes the Chriss trade seem really weird now that they’ve cut him so quickly. But I like this pick up. A veteran, but with the wheels still on. A skill set that is needed. Makes me feel better about letting Rudy leave this off season.

[PhantomDashCam]

Intrigued to see the combinations we can put on the floor with him. Eg. White running point some in second units, could we see 5 out action?

[PrimeMinister]

No this is more like walking down the street and finding a 10 dollar bill on the ground

it’s not changing anything fundamentally but it was nice to pick up 10 bucks

[spurs10]

Some more random thoughts after digesting the news a bit more:

-The Grizzlies waiving him shouldn't be viewed as suspicious, IMO. In addition to Valanciunas, they've basically figured out that Brandon Clarke is a center. Xavier Tillman is a rookie center who is deserving of minutes. Two other rookie centers on their roster are pretty interesting: Killian Tille and Jontay Porter. Considering I would have loved Tillman, Tille or Porter in the second round of the last two drafts, I can't blame them for waiving Dieng. You can't have six centers in today's NBA.

-What reason will Dieng give to picking the Spurs? My guesses, in order, would be: 1) Culture/coffee gang 2) Pop 3) Long-term fit 4) Money 5) Promise of minutes

-I don't see Dieng playing a ton of minutes. Poeltl will get his 25-30. There are a number of teams that don't even play backup centers anymore so Dieng wouldn't see many minutes in those games. My guess is he'll average 15 to 18 minutes per game.

-If you're Eubanks, you have to be a little saddened. But, like others have mentioned, Poeltl backed up by Eubanks is suboptimal for the Spurs because they have similar strengths and weaknesses. Dieng is a totally different player than Poeltl, which is useful. Eubanks is a high-quality third string center who is signed to a very affordable contract. I think he has shown enough to date to keep open the possibility that he's eventually a rotation piece on a playoff team. Considering where his NBA journey began (started playing basketball late, uneven college career, undrafted), that's still impressive.

-I don't anticipate any Poeltl/Dieng pairings. It could happen since Dieng is more mobile than 35-year-old Aldridge but I wouldn't want Pop to get into that habit.

-Could Dieng be the closing center? It's possible. Hak-a-Jak is getting more popular and Pop has historically preferred playing shooting bigs to close out games. The main issue is Poeltl's a much savvier player so that might trump Dieng's shooting.

-This is probably the strangest buyout signing since Drew Gooden. The Spurs didn't have obvious minutes for Gooden and he was known as a me-first player ... but he decided to sign with the Spurs anyways. That ultimately didn't really work out but the Spurs had use for his scoring ability down the stretch of that season.

-Could Dieng be a bust? Oh, yeah, that's a possibility. His robotic play isn't a natural fit in a system that relies so much on synchronized movements. There's a chance he's a liability on both ends if he can't adjust. But, assuming he won't be signed to a multi-year deal right away, the risk is miniscule. The upside is there for him to become a very important part of the team. If the transition goes smoothly, he could be the difference in a few extra wins down the stretch. Yes I thinking the same about closing games as 'Hack-a-Jac' is a good strategy against us. From what I'm reading I'm liking what I see. He certainly shined against us I'm Memphis.

[Sugus]

No this is more like walking down the street and finding a 10 dollar bill on the ground

it’s not changing anything fundamentally but it was nice to pick up 10 bucks

Exactly. And to complete the analogy, imagine having seen those 10 bucks falling off that asshole's pockets just before. They ain't gonna get you much more than a cup of coffee, but you sure ain't complaining - and sure as hell ain't calling the asshole back to give them to him. That asshole? This news shitting all over SpursTalk and their doomer takes regarding the FO. Sure makes me feel warm like a cup o' coffee :lol

No one's expecting the world out of the new backup C. But at the same time, for anyone watching the games (so half of ST at best), the backup C was by far the biggest hole on the team after LMA's bitchin', so seeing it get addressed by signing a good, coveted FA, who also happens to play the opposite game as our starting C, is a damn nice 10 bucks, tbh.

[J_Paco]

With this hole being filled and assuming he does a good job, Spurs only need to worry about finding a big wing and/or depth at the four during this upcoming off-season.

Draft a Robert Woodard - type (I've been fienin' for that type of player) or Wagner if he falls to us. Replaces Rudy & competes with Samanic (hopefully) at the starting 4.

Dieng is a great "stopgap" that can be brought back for a reasonable price if he clicks.

[TD 21]

Wow. Not only a perfect fit for what they need in a backup center (basically, a 4.5 years younger Aldridge, without the pedigree, but a more well rounded game at this point), but they beat out contenders and pseudo ones alike.

I suspected they'd chase him in the off season (2/$10M?).



Dieng would have been a starter for the Raptors and probably the Heat. The Knicks just lost Mitchell Robinson so he could have maybe even started there and then cash in the summer due to all their cap space. The Suns need a backup big and they look pretty legit. The Sixers just traded away Bradley who was their Embiid replacement when hurt.

So, yeah, not sure why Dieng picked the Spurs. Bigger contract? Promised to be a starter over Poeltl? (Can't imagine that, though, thb.) Attracted to culture and coffee gang lifestyle? Can't be big minutes, limelight or championship odds. . .

Raptors, yes. But it appears he viewed this as pre agency and they'll chase Drummond or some other starter this off season, while retaining Boucher.

Heat, no. Without having to placate Aldridge, they'd have dispensed with the regular season pretense and he'd have strictly backed up Adebayo. Nice to see their arrogance in Aldridge trade discussions backfired though.

Knicks, unlikely. Noel plus Thibodeau's love affair with Gibson probably would have rendered him non rotation.

Suns, sure they could use a true backup five for insurance, but they prefer Saric playing up a position.

Sixers, non rotation.



Some more random thoughts after digesting the news a bit more:

-The Grizzlies waiving him shouldn't be viewed as suspicious, IMO. In addition to Valanciunas, they've basically figured out that Brandon Clarke is a center. Xavier Tillman is a rookie center who is deserving of minutes. Two other rookie centers on their roster are pretty interesting: Killian Tille and Jontay Porter. Considering I would have loved Tillman, Tille or Porter in the second round of the last two drafts, I can't blame them for waiving Dieng. You can't have six centers in today's NBA.

-What reason will Dieng give to picking the Spurs? My guesses, in order, would be: 1) Culture/coffee gang 2) Pop 3) Long-term fit 4) Money 5) Promise of minutes

-I don't see Dieng playing a ton of minutes. Poeltl will get his 25-30. There are a number of teams that don't even play backup centers anymore so Dieng wouldn't see many minutes in those games. My guess is he'll average 15 to 18 minutes per game.

More like 4.5 centers (Valanciunas, Jackson Jr., Tillman, Porter, Clarke). It's not an indictment of his play, but Tillman's emergence expedited his departure from the rotation, which would have been inevitable anyway once Jackson Jr. returns.

Probably nailed the reasons. He likely figures he could receive a guaranteed 15-20 mpg here for the next 2+ years, have a chance to close some and then ring chase at that point.

[timvp]

A connection to Dieng that cold have factored in is all the work Buford and Pop (mostly Buford though, to be fair) has done in Africa. AFAIK, Buford has been the most powerful American force behind Basketball Without Borders in Africa for the last decade.

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Africa-game-more-than-just-hoops-for-Spurs-6417593.php

https://www.nba.com/spurs/features/120229_elevate

[Dejounte]

B0iaQxjn5Ac

Maybe the Spurs will get more favorable calls from the refs now

[JuneJive]

PATFO with the moves.

[TD 21]

Does this lead to a Lyles buyout? They needed him as stretch big insurance post Aldridge, but now he's buried. Might as well take a flyer on some young G-League standout.

[gambit1990]

he helps fill a role.

tanking is still the way though tbh.

[duncan2150]

No one's expecting the world out of the new backup C. But at the same time, for anyone watching the games (so half of ST at best), the backup C was by far the biggest hole on the team after LMA's bitchin', so seeing it get addressed by signing a good, coveted FA, who also happens to play the opposite game as our starting C, is a damn nice 10 bucks, tbh.

That's exactly that.

[duncan2150]

Does this lead to a Lyles buyout? They needed him as stretch big insurance post Aldridge, but now he's buried. Might as well take a flyer on some young G-League standout.

I hope so, it's better for both.

[widowmaker]

That's why I was asking you bruh.

You got it twisted homeboy I asked you how it works.

[GreekSpursfan]

he helps fill a role.

tanking is still the way though tbh.

this

[NASpurs]

You got it twisted homeboy I asked you how it works.


I didn’t quote you in my original post but it was obviously implied I was talking to you broseph.

[tonight...you]

Better than Aldridge.

[RC_Drunkford]

Wow. This is the best case scenario. Let's celebrate buddy RC_Drunkford (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=53010)

I told y'all!!!!!! Let's go. Finally a move that makes sense

[ace3g]

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Marc Stein @TheSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine) 59m (https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1376280833800212483) Andre Drummond can now sign with the Lakers and Gorgui Dieng can now sign with the Spurs as planned.



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(https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine) 1h (https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1376280339178532864) Andre Drummond and Gorgui Dieng have cleared waivers, league sources say

[RC_Drunkford]

Dieng has never been a net negative, if you look at his Offensive and Defensive Rating he's been a plus his entire career. For this season his ORtg 127 DRtg 107 PER 19.3 eFG 62.5 % numbers are incredible. Of course a smaller sample size than usual, but there's no doubt he will help the team

[PhantomDashCam]

No this is more like walking down the street and finding a 10 dollar bill on the ground

it’s not changing anything fundamentally but it was nice to pick up 10 bucks


Exactly. And to complete the analogy, imagine having seen those 10 bucks falling off that asshole's pockets just before. They ain't gonna get you much more than a cup of coffee, but you sure ain't complaining - and sure as hell ain't calling the asshole back to give them to him. That asshole? This news shitting all over SpursTalk and their doomer takes regarding the FO. Sure makes me feel warm like a cup o' coffee :lol

No one's expecting the world out of the new backup C. But at the same time, for anyone watching the games (so half of ST at best), the backup C was by far the biggest hole on the team after LMA's bitchin', so seeing it get addressed by signing a good, coveted FA, who also happens to play the opposite game as our starting C, is a damn nice 10 bucks, tbh.

I don’t know guys. Not sure 5 or 6 other people are pitching cases for why they should have $10.
Coveted suggests he’s at least worth more...

I agree that it’s most likely a solid upgrade at the backup 5, but the optimist in me suggests it may be a sign of things to come, off-season wise.

I’m not saying Dieng is a John Collins - not at all, but the way they are slated to operate as second unit 5’s once the initial C takes a breather - it could give us a small sample to what’s in store if that is a style of play we were to embrace.

I know, I’m taking quite the leap here but intrigued nonetheless. Not expecting miracles, just some good ol’ fashioned rose tinted specs. :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

A connection to Dieng that cold have factored in is all the work Buford and Pop (mostly Buford though, to be fair) has done in Africa. AFAIK, Buford has been the most powerful American force behind Basketball Without Borders in Africa for the last decade.

https://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Africa-game-more-than-just-hoops-for-Spurs-6417593.php

https://www.nba.com/spurs/features/120229_elevate

does that mean RC still got it? :wow

[ace3g]

Will Dieng be this year's Nazr?

[KingKev]

Will Dieng be this year's Nazr?

The regular season version

[exstatic]

Thats fine, Your definition of "riding the bench" is different from mine. Trey Lyles is "riding the bench". Rudy Gay and Patty Mills are not "riding the bench". He should be at the very least taking Eubanks spot and taking some of Poeltl's minutes if he is playing well.

They gave up close to a million in insurance money to cut Chriss in order to sign Dieng. He not going to ride the bench.

[SpursDynasty85]

They gave up close to a million in insurance money to cut Chriss in order to sign Dieng. He not going to ride the bench.

I guess we were just not understanding each other. I agree.

[widowmaker]

I didn’t quote you in my original post but it was obviously implied I was talking to you broseph.

Na you’re living in an alternate universe buddy. Take a nap get some rest.

[D WHITE]

BRIAN WRONG WHEN GORGIU PICKED THE SPURS:

https://media.giphy.com/media/9oIr18OLYX0nRxjFYF/source.gif

[timvp]

BRIAN WRONG WHEN GORGIU PICKED THE SPURS:

https://media.giphy.com/media/9oIr18OLYX0nRxjFYF/source.gif

:lol, tbh

[RC_Drunkford]

Everybody lights up the Spurs so that's not saying much. Do you have highlights of him lighting someone else up? How well does he guard the perimeter three?

Do the Lakers count?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVCXYz1MAfA

[Slippy]

After seeing Jacob go for a pop a shot when wide open 2feet away from the basket and clang more freethrows in the 4th quarter of last nights game.. im kind of relieved the spurs have an alternative option to close games

[exstatic]

Does this lead to a Lyles buyout? They needed him as stretch big insurance post Aldridge, but now he's buried. Might as well take a flyer on some young G-League standout.

No point in paying him to go away with the brutal schedule we have. Also don’t want to put a big man on the market for Ainge and Riles to fight over.

[murpjf88]

Do the Lakers count?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVCXYz1MAfA
Stop the press. How low as the bar fallen when 13 points and 4 measley rebounds is considered lighting someone up.. Eubanks went for 17 and 9 vs Philly and no, I'm not pining for Eubanks.

Any offense he gives is a bonus. I'm just looking for him to do some rim protecting.

[Degoat]

Don’t know if it’s been discussed but pretty smart decision of him to join the spurs tbh they have a ton of cap space in the summer so if he’s productive you know pop & the front office will give him a juicy contract lol

[Down Under]

The 2nd unit is gonna be pretty fun.

[tonight...you]

All you donks with 'this trade is like this other trade and or signing'
Did the Kurt Thomas move move the Spurs needle?
Did the Antonio McDyses move bolster the depth no make a difference?
Those moves with the big 3 and NO they DID NOTHING....

Now all per 36 nerds are BASKEBALL REFERENCEING the SHIT out of this acquisition ....
and IT WILL END UP the same way. But on a NON CONTENDING TEAM that should be LOTTERY TROLLING.
Even signed a guy who
"Killed the spurs"
Spurs Killers are SPURS KILLERS, problem is they are ON THE SPURS and they pretty much SUCK against the ENTIER REST OF THE NBA.... PFTO and DOINKS don't seem to understand that equation after all these years.

Did poop say that there would be little to no PRACTICE(talking about PRACTICE) the rest of the way? HOW DA FUCK is this "low iq"(to quote the benefactor.. grades are a great gimmick yo) "robotic" big whos one trick is a marginal 3 gonna fair with NO PRACTICE?

talk about conspiracy theories.


This it the best one because he uses Avdverb "Essentially" like a magic wand to cast spell to conjure a TRADE where one NEVER EXISTED....

Uless to Spurgs talk EYE TESTERS giving away MILLIONS is now "A TRADE"

LULZ
I enjoy you pissing into the wind.
How does it taste?
I bet salty.

Hopefully like beer salt.
Much more enjoyable.

[timvp]

Gotta love the "Why are Spurs fans excited about [insert latest transaction here]? This means nothing in the big picture. They still won't win a championship. So much needless excitement in this thread." Spurs fans. Such an enlightened bunch, tnbh.

[GAustex]

Well I fort one like our motley crew except poop and DDR. The new player pushes the backup center out of the way he tried hard.

[Philthemage]

Always thought this would happen when Popovich took part in the NBA Africa exhibition back in 2015.

Thought he would be a good fit for us in previous yeara. But just a bit worried in recent years, from watching him play us that he looks for his shot a little too much like Chimezie did when he got the ball.

Excited about this signing and hopefully he fits in well.

[poopbox]

Don’t know if it’s been discussed but pretty smart decision of him to join the spurs tbh they have a ton of cap space in the summer so if he’s productive you know pop & the front office will give him a juicy contract lol

I think this is what played into his decision the most. He plays well as a backup center and the spurs are easily going to throw a 3 for 28 to 33 at him...dude is most worried about his next contract than winning so teams that he is going to be automatically one and done on like the la teams, nets, heat, and suns, are a no go...

[mo7888]

I think this is what played into his decision the most. He plays well as a backup center and the spurs are easily going to throw a 3 for 28 to 33 at him...dude is most worried about his next contract than winning so teams that he is going to be automatically one and done on like the la teams, nets, heat, and suns, are a no go...

There's no world where they are going to pay him more than Poeltl.

[RD2191]

He came here because he knows PATFO like to hand out loyalty contracts to old washed up players. Thinking he gives a shit about the Spurs or culture. :lol I'm sure his agent sold him on how easy it is to finesse the Spurs.

[Dex]

Gotta love the "Why are Spurs fans excited about [insert latest transaction here]? This means nothing in the big picture. They still won't win a championship. So much needless excitement in this thread." Spurs fans. Such an enlightened bunch, tnbh.

I dunno...I heard Thanos was about to sign with the Spurs, but Pop told him that gloves aren't allowed per the team's outfit protocol.

[The Truth #6]

does that mean RC still got it? :wow

I think about 15 years ago, before Brangelina made it popular, he adopted a kid from Africa, and helped him get on the UT Austin basketball team. He definitely seems involved.

[spurs10]

I don’t know guys. Not sure 5 or 6 other people are pitching cases for why they should have $10.
Coveted suggests he’s at least worth more...

I agree that it’s most likely a solid upgrade at the backup 5, but the optimist in me suggests it may be a sign of things to come, off-season wise.

I’m not saying Dieng is a John Collins - not at all, but the way they are slated to operate as second unit 5’s once the initial C takes a breather - it could give us a small sample to what’s in store if that is a style of play we were to embrace.

I know, I’m taking quite the leap here but intrigued nonetheless. Not expecting miracles, just some good ol’ fashioned rose tinted specs. :lol Yes the $10 analogy is one of the stupidest things I've read on here and know the weren't being literal, but he really does fit a hole in our roster. Glad he's here!

[Sugus]

does that mean RC still got it? :wow

You doubt they had some drinks together while down in Africa? RC Drunkford working from the shadows :downspin:

[Sugus]

I don’t know guys. Not sure 5 or 6 other people are pitching cases for why they should have $10.
Coveted suggests he’s at least worth more...

I agree that it’s most likely a solid upgrade at the backup 5, but the optimist in me suggests it may be a sign of things to come, off-season wise.

I’m not saying Dieng is a John Collins - not at all, but the way they are slated to operate as second unit 5’s once the initial C takes a breather - it could give us a small sample to what’s in store if that is a style of play we were to embrace.

I know, I’m taking quite the leap here but intrigued nonetheless. Not expecting miracles, just some good ol’ fashioned rose tinted specs. :lol

Huh? What do you mean? Dieng was coveted - he was the marquee big man FA to be had off the buyout market, held in higher regard than Drummond and Griffin, with teams like Boston, LA and Miami trying to entice him to sign there (matter-of-factly, Heat fans got Big Mad because some "insider" was reporting that Dieng was %100 going to the Heat, before the announcement that he was coming to SanAn). It's not like we signed some undrafted rookie and called it a day. Dieng hasn't said anything yet regarding why he'd sign here over other market, but you can bet we either promised him a bigger role than most (unlikely since he could've started in LA or Boston), more pay in the future, or some other magic work (the Buford connection maybe?).

Either way, there were definitely other people aiming for that $10 bill... Though I agree that it's far from a perfect analogy :lol

Also agreed, hope we can retain him throughout next season, because a shooting C is big for an offense like the Spurs'. The change of play in opposition to Poeltl is very interesting as well, offense vs defense oriented big man play, it can confuse teams trying to scheme against us.

[tbdog]

Gotta love the "Why are Spurs fans excited about [insert latest transaction here]? This means nothing in the big picture. They still won't win a championship. So much needless excitement in this thread." Spurs fans. Such an enlightened bunch, tnbh.

It's like people think we should give up, sell everything because we won't win a title.

[poopbox]

There's no world where they are going to pay him more than Poeltl.

Sure it is. It's called the off season. And he should make more than poeltl since he can actually make 3's and freethrows.

[Dejounte]

It's like people think we should give up, sell everything because we won't win a title.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/l2Sq423V06GXeid1u/source.gif

[PrimeMinister]

Yes the $10 analogy is one of the stupidest things I've read on here and know the weren't being literal, but he really does fit a hole in our roster. Glad he's here!

Depends on your value of 10 bucks tbh lol

im not going to overstate anything until I see how he fits. It’s definitely a good thing.

The point is it’s an unexpected good thing that just... materialized.

[cjw]

Have always liked him, albeit not at the contract number he was on. Always been a net positive on the court, and should fit well with the second unit. I viewed him as the big that should be most coveted on the buyout market. Yes, I’d take him over Blake, Aldridge, Drummond.

Why did the Grizzlies cut him? Maybe it was the contract number and making the numbers work ($17mm) without taking back money beyond this year. The Raptors could have rerouted Rodney Hood and included Baynes on the way out, and absorbed Dieng. The Heat could have gone straight up with Iggy.

Eubanks signed his deal knowing he’s a third big, and will still see plenty of action given how packed the schedule is as Poeltl won’t be able to play every game.

[PhantomDashCam]

Huh? What do you mean? Dieng was coveted - he was the marquee big man FA to be had off the buyout market, held in higher regard than Drummond and Griffin, with teams like Boston, LA and Miami trying to entice him to sign there (matter-of-factly, Heat fans got Big Mad because some "insider" was reporting that Dieng was %100 going to the Heat, before the announcement that he was coming to SanAn). It's not like we signed some undrafted rookie and called it a day. Dieng hasn't said anything yet regarding why he'd sign here over other market, but you can bet we either promised him a bigger role than most (unlikely since he could've started in LA or Boston), more pay in the future, or some other magic work (the Buford connection maybe?).

Either way, there were definitely other people aiming for that $10 bill... Though I agree that it's far from a perfect analogy :lol

Also agreed, hope we can retain him throughout next season, because a shooting C is big for an offense like the Spurs'. The change of play in opposition to Poeltl is very interesting as well, offense vs defense oriented big man play, it can confuse teams trying to scheme against us.

Oh I agree, think we are making the same point. Understood that people were after him, it’s precisely why I thought he was worth more than say $10. People don’t tend to fight over that amount. Maybe a couple more zeroes? :lol Show me the money baby.

[John B]

He’s become a bit of a sniper. That’s really most of his offensive game: spot-up 3’s. Especially from the top of the arch.
Which is what Aldridge did, but Dieng also can defend, block and rebound.

[rjv]

Riles, still standing with his dick in his hand. Ainge, too. :lol

Yeah. Riles was sure he'd find a replacement for Olanak.

[RC_Drunkford]

I just like that we fucked the Heat over double time since they didn't put a trade package together for LA. They were so sure that they were gonna get Aldridge and Dieng was their 2nd option. Now Heat fans are livid asking for Dedmon :lol:

[TimDunkem]

He's solid. Way better than Ewwbanks.

[Mugen]

BRIAN WRONG WHEN GORGIU PICKED THE SPURS:

https://media.giphy.com/media/9oIr18OLYX0nRxjFYF/source.gif

:lol

"You know Timmy and Manu are gone right?"

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1376553743748112386

Wearing #7

He sort of looks like Hopsin

https://images.complex.com/complex/images/c_fill,dpr_auto,f_auto,q_90,w_1400/fl_lossy,pg_1/uqztcuubujccuphj8v4i/hopsin

[BillMc]

Is he active tonight?

[exstatic]

Is he active tonight?

I’d put him in COVID protocols. This could be a plot by MEM to catapult themselves past us in the standings.

[boutons_deux]

more mobile than LMA, shoots better than Puddle, seems to have pretty good BB IQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ng0CTbWWVI&ab_channel=Mattydubs

[BillMc]

I’d put him in COVID protocols. This could be a plot by MEM to catapult themselves past us in the standings.
Is he really in COVID protocol?

[Ocotillo]

Well I guess we can exhale now that a Marcus Morris type of thing isn't happening. :lol

[BackHome]

He's solid. Way better than Ewwbanks.

I like Eubanks but as a 15th man he can be our 3rd string PF/C

[Leetonidas]

Glad it appears to be official. I've always like Dieng, remember him killing us a lot in Minnesota and always thought he would be a nice bench big to have on the team. let's make that playoff push boys :tu

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376578574833041408

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1376577402030161926

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376576441723318277

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1376578489084690436

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1376579702274555911

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376573296364388352

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376574485181128707

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1376578247698354180

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376574709148614657

Love the guy's attitude so far.

Looks like the Spurs still have a good reputation :)

[boutons_deux]

I’d put him in COVID protocols. This could be a plot by MEM to catapult themselves past us in the standings.

I expect all NBA players at this time to have been vaccinated weeks ago

[exstatic]

I expect all NBA players at this have been vaccinated weeks ago

I forgot to use the blue font.

[timvp]

So it sounds like Dieng signed with the Spurs due to a combination of Pop, culture and RC's ties to Africa.

Good stuff and good to know the Spurs can still attract free agents. Can any small market, non-championship contender do that? I can't think of one who can when the playing field is level.

All those whining that culture doesn't matter will ignore this but it looks like proof that culture does matter -- at least a little bit.

[RD2191]

It's all about the money.

[justinandimcool]

So it sounds like Dieng signed with the Spurs due to a combination of Pop, culture and RC's ties to Africa.

Good stuff and good to know the Spurs can still attract free agents. Can any small market, non-championship contender do that? I can't think of one who can when the playing field is level.

All those whining that culture doesn't matter will ignore this but it looks like proof that culture does matter -- at least a little bit.

The only other non-contending team I can think that can acquire players off the fringes due to “culture” is Memphis tbh. One could argue Miami isn’t contending

[bluebellmaniac]

Contract details, or it didn't happen...