Supreme Court allows Texas’ 6-week abortion ban to take effect

[Trainwreck2100]

fellas, do your part to prevent abortions

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there's lots a shit you should take for free but a vasectomy is not one of them

[Winehole23]

there's lots a shit you should take for free but a vasectomy is not one of themWell, I recommended guys stop fucking to prevent abortion, but that went over about how you would imagine.

Would blaming it all on slutty, irresponsible women work better d'ye think?

[ElNono]

So as long as the law allows it everything is bon?

We're a society of laws... the feels or morals of the equation should be largely irrelevant, despite they not always are.

[Thread]

We're a society of laws... the feels or morals of the equation should be largely irrelevant, despite they not always are.

You shit all over the laws after Trump whipped Clinton and only because you were told: "It's okay, we'll only break all the laws until we get him out then we'll go back and obey the laws."

It's what Silver did to Sterling by setting that wire into his house to catch him saying the N word. "We're never going to do that again. I promise." - Silver afterward. You know and Media squared it with the house (covered for Silver) and we just walked away from Sterling swingin' by a rope with that 2 billion dollar bank draft stapled to his forehead.

Because Sterling wouldn't go peaceably.

[Isitjustme?]

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There's plenty of rightwing anti-abortion women, boots

[Trainwreck2100]

Well, I recommended guys stop fucking to prevent abortion, but that went over about how you would imagine.

Would blaming it all on slutty, irresponsible women work better d'ye think?

I think you shouldn't get a free vasectomy.

[ElNono]

You shit all over the laws after Trump whipped Clinton and only because you were told: "It's okay, we'll only break all the laws until we get him out then we'll go back and obey the laws."

It's what Silver did to Sterling by setting that wire into his house to catch him saying the N word. "We're never going to do that again. I promise." - Silver afterward. You know and Media squared it with the house (covered for Silver) and we just walked away from Sterling swingin' by a rope with that 2 billion dollar bank draft stapled to his forehead.

Because Sterling wouldn't go peaceably.

Stop yelling at clouds, Dale...

[Winehole23]

I think you shouldn't get a free vasectomy.The suggestion was facetious but my broader point wasn't. Men shirk responsibilty for pregnancy and recoil from possible solutions that impinge on their bodily freedom.

[Thread]

The suggestion was facetious but my broader point wasn't. Men shirk responsibilty for pregnancy and recoil from possible solutions that impinge on their bodily freedom.

Bend over. I'll grant ya some fuckin' bodily freedom.

[Trainwreck2100]

The suggestion was facetious but my broader point wasn't. Men shirk responsibilty for pregnancy and recoil from possible solutions that impinge on their bodily freedom.
My point was you shouldn't get a free vasectomy

[Winehole23]

My point was you shouldn't get a free vasectomyNot interested, thanks.

[boutons_deux]

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White Male Supremacist shithole Texas "doesn't care about Black and brown children".

[leemajors]

fellas, do your part to prevent abortions

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Really sad RISUG vasectomy still isn't available here. Minimally invasive, easily reversible.

[Blake]

Really sad RISUG vasectomy still isn't available here. Minimally invasive, easily reversible.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BabyishDampFlatcoatretriever-max-1mb.gif

[DMC]

We're a society of laws... the feels or morals of the equation should be largely irrelevant, despite they not always are.

Then what's happening in Texas is OK.

[ElNono]

Then what's happening in Texas is OK.

No, not based on legal precedent. The SCOTUS addressed the two competing interests/rights in Roe and Casey.

[daboom1]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BabyishDampFlatcoatretriever-max-1mb.gif

wtf is this?

[DMC]

The suggestion was facetious but my broader point wasn't. Men shirk responsibilty for pregnancy and recoil from possible solutions that impinge on their bodily freedom.

Taxation without representation has always been problematic.

[DMC]

No, not based on legal precedent. The SCOTUS addressed the two competing interests/rights in Roe and Casey.

The law though. Now you're saying the law is bad.

[Th'Pusher]

The law though. Now you're saying the law is bad.

BaD lAw!

He’s saying it’s unconstitutional you stupid motherfucker.

[DMC]

So as long as the law allows it everything is bon?


We're a society of laws... the feels or morals of the equation should be largely irrelevant, despite they not always are.


BaD lAw!

He’s saying it’s unconstitutional you stupid motherfucker.

:lol

[DMC]

Do you think the founding fathers would have approved of abortion? Was that their intent?

[baseline bum]

Really sad RISUG vasectomy still isn't available here. Minimally invasive, easily reversible.

But then you can't go Peter North on the wife's face

[Th'Pusher]

Do you think the founding fathers would have approved of abortion? Was that their intent?

Irrelevant.

[DMC]

Irrelevant.

Wasn't irrelevant to the discussion on the second amendment.

[ChumpDumper]

Do you think the founding fathers would have approved of abortion? Was that their intent?They were cool with it since they made zero mention of prohibiting the rather common practice.:tu

[ElNono]

The law though. Now you're saying the law is bad.

Laws can be stepping on other rights and be declared unconstitutional. This has happened with abortion law for a number of decades now.

There's no question the State has a right to protect human life (and when a clump of cells become human was always a sticky point), but it can't do so stepping on constitutional rights.

That's why Roe was a careful compromise between two perfectly valid rights colliding with each other.

[DMC]

Life outside the womb is a completely different matter (legally), especially since the SCOTUS has stipulated that individual legal rights only become dispositive upon birth, and not before it.


Laws can be stepping on other rights and be declared unconstitutional. This has happened with abortion law for a number of decades now.

There's no question the State has a right to protect human life (and when a clump of cells become human was always a sticky point), but it can't do so stepping on constitutional rights.

That's why Roe was a careful compromise between two perfectly valid rights colliding with each other.

This is how we got here. Using the legality of something in a "should" argument will get you here, since it presents a slippery slope. I don't think you meant to get here, but there have been plenty discussions on this board where legality was both the holy grail of righteousness (gun control law arguments) and something to ignore (this most recent version). Laws can indeed be unconstitutional but they are still laws, so if legal = right, then anything legal is automatically right.

[ChumpDumper]

lol DMC makes his non-point.

[ElNono]

This is how we got here. Using the legality of something in a "should" argument will get you here, since it presents a slippery slope. I don't think you meant to get here, but there have been plenty discussions on this board where legality was both the holy grail of righteousness (gun control law arguments) and something to ignore (this most recent version). Laws can indeed be unconstitutional but they are still laws, so if legal = right, then anything legal is automatically right.

Nobody argued legal=right/wrong, at least not me. That's a moral dilemma, not a legal one.

That law right now is the law of the land, and must be followed. It will be challenged. If it's found to be unconstitutional, then it's going to be short-lived, no longer be the law of the land, and no longer needs to be followed. If it's enactment caused damage, then the State will have to respond for that damage.

[Blake]

Nobody argued legal=right/wrong, at least not me.

DMC started punching at a straw man? No way.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1435355161178820608?s=19

[daboom1]

panic!

[Blake]

wtf is this?

Michael Scott : When I said that I wanted to have kids, and you said you wanted me to have a vasectomy, what did I do? And then, when you said that you might want to have kids, and I wasn't so sure, who had the vasectomy reversed? And then when you said you definitely didn't want to have kids? Who had it reversed back? Snip, snap! Snip, snap! Snip, snap! I did! You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person!

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1435355161178820608?s=19

That one on the far left is a living doll.

I hate those 3 men with every ounce of my being.

[Winehole23]

DMC started punching at a straw man? No way.Seldom meets another poster head on, the resort to artful restatement, deflection and strawman is usually instantaneous.

[Thread]

Seldom meets another poster head on, the resort to artful restatement, deflection and strawman is usually instantaneous.

You got nary room, Winester.
tee, hee.

[boutons_deux]

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[RandomGuy]

This is how we got here. Using the legality of something in a "should" argument will get you here, since it presents a slippery slope. I don't think you meant to get here, but there have been plenty discussions on this board where legality was both the holy grail of righteousness (gun control law arguments) and something to ignore (this most recent version). Laws can indeed be unconstitutional but they are still laws, so if legal = right, then anything legal is automatically right.

What the actual fuck is your point here? This is some serious word salad.

[boutons_deux]

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[boutons_deux]

'We need to do it':

Meet the Texas teen who helped sabotage an anti-abortion tip line

When an anti-abortion group last week created a “pro-life whistleblower” website encouraging people to anonymously report violations of Texas’ new six-week abortion ban, a group of politically active Texans noticed one potentially fatal flaw.

“They’re trying to use the internet to retaliate against people who were raised on the internet,” said Olivia Julianna, an 18-year-old student and activist from Sugar Land who is among the leadership of a group called “Gen-Z For Change.”

The group was formerly known as “TikTok for Biden.”

Olivia, who goes by only her first and middle names on social media due to safety concerns, said the goal was clear:

“This website, if we can mess with them in any way,
if we can stop even one woman from having a lawsuit filed against her or waste even a second of their time, we need to do it.”

https://www.expressnews.com/politics/texas/article/We-need-to-do-it-Meet-the-Texas-teen-who-16441764.php

[Winehole23]

What the actual fuck is your point here? This is some serious word salad.sounds like a crude version of legal positivism whereby anything duly passed by a legislature is valid without qualification, merely by dint of of being agreed to by generally accepted authorities.

most people believe in a weak version of this, sounds like DMC holds a strong version.

[daboom1]

That one on the far left is a living doll.

I hate those 3 men with every ounce of my being.

The one on the far right looks like Dana Carvey

https://c.tenor.com/c3RtOpdQTtoAAAAM/dana-carvey-turtle-face.gif

[Trainwreck2100]

'We need to do it':

Meet the Texas teen who helped sabotage an anti-abortion tip line

When an anti-abortion group last week created a “pro-life whistleblower” website encouraging people to anonymously report violations of Texas’ new six-week abortion ban, a group of politically active Texans noticed one potentially fatal flaw.

“They’re trying to use the internet to retaliate against people who were raised on the internet,” said Olivia Julianna, an 18-year-old student and activist from Sugar Land who is among the leadership of a group called “Gen-Z For Change.”

The group was formerly known as “TikTok for Biden.”

Olivia, who goes by only her first and middle names on social media due to safety concerns, said the goal was clear:

“This website, if we can mess with them in any way,
if we can stop even one woman from having a lawsuit filed against her or waste even a second of their time, we need to do it.”

https://www.expressnews.com/politics/texas/article/We-need-to-do-it-Meet-the-Texas-teen-who-16441764.php
that's not how the law works for fuck sake.

[boutons_deux]

Reddit Bans Abortion Bounty Hunter Forum

"As a bounty hunter, would it be unethical to collect bounty on a perp that I impregnated?," one member wrote, after TXSB8 became law.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg83bg/reddit-bans-abortion-bounty-hunter-forum

[Thread]

that's not how the law works for fuck sake.

It is when this action takes place:::

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

[boutons_deux]

that's not how the law works for fuck sake.

yeah, so what?

they shut down the website anyway

[Thread]

yeah, so what?

they shut down the website anyway

Ever since:::

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

...the ends have justified the means for bouts and his people.

[DMC]

Nobody argued legal=right/wrong, at least not me. That's a moral dilemma, not a legal one.

That law right now is the law of the land, and must be followed. It will be challenged. If it's found to be unconstitutional, then it's going to be short-lived, no longer be the law of the land, and no longer needs to be followed. If it's enactment caused damage, then the State will have to respond for that damage.

We're a society of laws... the feels or morals of the equation should be largely irrelevant, despite they not always are -ElNono

But a law is law until it's not a law. The feels or morals should be largely irrelevant.

[DMC]

Why does that matter? If two get pregnant, why is only one able to decide the fate?


It matters because the relationship with the host is strictly parasitic during a large part of gestation.

Like I said many times, if we had the tech to take out the fetus at any time during pregnancy (without any risk to the host) and it could survive, then we would be having a different discussion. But we do not (yet).


Should she be able to walk away from the newborn once outside of the womb or is that child abandonment?


Life outside the womb is a completely different matter (legally), especially since the SCOTUS has stipulated that individual legal rights only become dispositive upon birth, and not before it.


What the actual fuck is your point here? This is some serious word salad.


sounds like a crude version of legal positivism whereby anything duly passed by a legislature is valid without qualification, merely by dint of of being agreed to by generally accepted authorities.

most people believe in a weak version of this, sounds like DMC holds a strong version.

Quite the opposite. I've been asking about right and wrong. ElNono leaned on law so I went that direction.

Funny how you two come along and pretend that didn't happen.. posters B and C.

[Winehole23]

Quite the opposite. I've been asking about right and wrong. ElNono leaned on law so I went that direction.

Funny how you two come along and pretend that didn't happen.. posters B and C.being unclear is kind of your thing. the fine line you walk between confusing and confused.

[DMC]

being unclear is kind of your thing. the fine line you walk between confusing and confused.

At least I can walk a straight line.

[daboom1]

being unclear is kind of your thing. the fine line you walk between confusing and confused.

the projection thingy^

[Trainwreck2100]

yeah, so what?

they shut down the website anyway

So what? Im not cool with idiots falling for misimformation and acting out based on it for either side.

[boutons_deux]

So what? Im not cool with idiots falling for misimformation and acting out based on it for either side.

what misinfo? it looks like they didn't understand that women are not the target

[Trainwreck2100]

what misinfo? it looks like they didn't understand that women are not the target

So they believed wrong information. Theres a different word for wrong information

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/BksClark/status/1435798672940351491?t

[Trainwreck2100]

https://twitter.com/BksClark/status/1435798672940351491?t

federal intervention is how segregation ended

[Will Hunting]

https://twitter.com/BksClark/status/1435798672940351491?t
Remember earlier this year when Texas sued Pennsylvania for governing itself?

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/BksClark/status/1435798672940351491?t

sEcEdE!

[boutons_deux]

"states rights" in racist Texas means violating Connotational law.

Will be hilarious if TX appeals to SCOTUS then SCOTUS keeps R v W

[Winehole23]

federal intervention is how segregation endedHerrenvolk democracy.

A large portion of the GOP base would like to see it reinstituted.

[DMC]

Herrenvolk democracy.

A large portion of the GOP base would like to see it reinstituted.

The segregation is being pushed mostly by the left.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/atlanta-school-principal-under-fire-for-racially-segregated-classrooms/?test=prebid

[pgardn]

The segregation is being pushed mostly by the left.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/atlanta-school-principal-under-fire-for-racially-segregated-classrooms/?test=prebid

Yes.
This article proves it so clearly...

Its really basic economics in housing that causes most of it now.

[Winehole23]

:corn:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-2zIoHXoAwTpuz?format=png&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

If Biden sent federal nurses and doctors to Texas to handle abortions, Texas and the stupid abortion law couldn't do shit about it.

Might have to send federal troops to protect the doctors and nurses though.

[Winehole23]

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[LkrFan]

I fear some of you farmers are inbreds. This turrible :cry

[RandomGuy]

Quite the opposite. I've been asking about right and wrong. ElNono leaned on law so I went that direction.

Funny how you two come along and pretend that didn't happen.. posters B and C.

Dipshit, I just asked you to clarify your point.

I didn't think that was too hard, but I was obviously mistaken.

[Winehole23]

Biden gon' sue Texas

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[Thread]

Biden gon' sue Texas

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The cocksucker goes right over the SC. Typical.

[Winehole23]

voila

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[Winehole23]

It takes little imagination to discern Texas’s goal—to make it too risky for an abortion clinic to operate in the State, thereby preventing women throughout Texas from exercising their constitutional rights, while simultaneously thwarting judicial review. Thus far, the law has had its desired effect. To date, abortion providers have ceased providing services prohibited by S.B. 8, leaving women in Texas unacceptably and unconstitutionally deprived of abortion services. Yet, despite this flagrant deprivation of rights, S.B. 8 remains in effect.

The United States has the authority and responsibility to ensure that Texas cannot evade its obligations under the Constitution and deprive individuals of their constitutional rights by adopting a statutory scheme designed specifically to evade traditional mechanisms of federal judicial review. The federal government therefore brings this suit directly against the State of Texas to obtain a declaration that S.B. 8 is invalid, to enjoin its enforcement, and to protect the rights that Texas has violated.

[Winehole23]

The Government also brings this suit to protect other federal interests that S.B. 8 unconstitutionally impairs. S.B. 8 conflicts with federal law by purporting to prohibit federal agencies from carrying out their responsibilities under federal law related to abortion services. Because S.B. 8does not contain an exception for cases of rape or incest, its terms purport to prohibit the federal government and its employees and agents from performing, funding, reimbursing, or facilitating abortions in such cases. Moreover, S.B. 8’s unconstitutionally broad terms purport to subject federal employees and nongovernmental partners who carry out those responsibilities to civil liability and penalties.

[boutons_deux]

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[spurraider21]

if the texas law survives, it would set the precedent allowing any state to create civil liability for other protected actions. imagine CA passes a law allowing any citizen to sue anybody for, say, owning a gun, and collecting a bounty + attorney fees.

[Will Hunting]

if the texas law survives, it would set the precedent allowing any state to create civil liability for other protected actions. imagine CA passes a law allowing any citizen to sue anybody for, say, owning a gun, and collecting a bounty + attorney fees.
Even if SCOTUS upholds the TX law I expect it to be modified next year after Texas state courts get slammed with new abortion cases and can't function because they're so crowded. The TX courts were already jammed up due to 'Rona.

[Will Hunting]

vy65 am I missing something or is virtually every abortion lawsuit going to get answered by a TCPA motion? Abortion definitely qualifies as a "matter of public concern"

[Thread]

if the texas law survives, it would set the precedent allowing any state to create civil liability for other protected actions. imagine CA passes a law allowing any citizen to sue anybody for, say, owning a gun, and collecting a bounty + attorney fees.

...total chaos. Suits me to a (t).

[spurraider21]

...total chaos. Suits me to a (t).
thats why there's no chance this law is upheld. courts will not uphold a law where the precedent would lead to absurd results

[Thread]

thats why there's no chance this law is upheld. courts will not uphold a law where the precedent would lead to absurd results

...and, where's the rest of it, 21?...something about a shed. tee, hee.


-The Shed-

A short story by the Cubster



"Here it is, Cully. This is it."

"What, what is it?"

"A shed."

"I can see that. What's it for?"

"It's called a cuck shed. I, well, him and I found it on the Internet thru the Urban Dictionary portal."

"What the..."

I glanced back to his house and saw the curtains move.

"He's watching. That's my province, Girl. Mine and mine alone."

"Not anymore. You can't watch, Cully. You always cry while we're mating."

My loins flared at the sound of her talking in such naughty terms.

"I enjoy crying while watching, Girl. It's part of the system for me. Please."

"No more, Cully. When he's fucking me and hears you crying in the corner he gets upset. I don't mind, but he is very put out."

"Bend over. I'll show you fuckin' put out."

"No, seriously, darling, just go inside and you'll see, you'll love it."

"You'll lock me in there, then go inside and fuck. Right?" My Signature Eddie Bauer jeans, my very best threatened to tent.

"Boy, your jeans are tenting."

"I feel like crying. How big is this fuckin' thing? Looks awfully small, Girl."

"No, it's to the actual specifications for a cuck shed, 3x5, filled with "fun objects and other amenities" just like the building plans state here in this brochure. See?"

I could smell her scent as I leaned in close. Ann Klein II. He'd special ordered it for her from the UK after the U.S. quit it.

"Listen, boy; 'A Cuck Shed.' He's the Chad and this Cuck Shed will keep your entertained while I'm as they say in the description: 'getting plowed.'"

"Oh-my-God, but his name ain't Chad, Girl. What the..."

"Of course not, that's the common word for him, but don't rub that in, Cully. It would hurt his feelings. Okay, little boy?" With a lace of baby-talk.

My Fruits were dampening and quickly. I turned my attention back to the shed.

"Does it have A/C?"

"Did that Horry guy can that howitzer?"

"Bend over. I'll show you a fuckin' howitzer."

"Boy, he's waiting for me." That impatient tone told me to be "Careful" as John Coffey had warned that Trump hater in -The Green Mile-

"You're gonna fuck him without me watching?"

"Uh, huh."

I loved when she "Uh, huh's" before sex.

I brazened it out nonetheless...

"What would happen if I sneak back into his house anyway?"


(to be continued)

[vy65]

vy65 am I missing something or is virtually every abortion lawsuit going to get answered by a TCPA motion? Abortion definitely qualifies as a "matter of public concern"

There are so many shitty parts of the law, which one are you referring to? There's an exemption for "an enforcement action that is brought in the name of this state or a political subdivision of this state by the attorney general, a district attorney, a criminal district attorney, or a county attorney" which would likely cover anything the state does.

Are you saying that the private right of action brought by an anti-abobo citizen against an abobo-haver? I'd still say likely no still given the limits on "free speech" and "free association" in recent cases and last years amendments, but I could be wrong.

[Will Hunting]

There are so many shitty parts of the law, which one are you referring to? There's an exemption for "an enforcement action that is brought in the name of this state or a political subdivision of this state by the attorney general, a district attorney, a criminal district attorney, or a county attorney" which would likely cover anything the state does.

Are you saying that the private right of action brought by an anti-abobo citizen against an abobo-haver? I'd still say likely no still given the limits on "free speech" and "free association" in recent cases and last years amendments, but I could be wrong.
Yeah I’m talking about a private citizen lawsuit, say a private citizen sues an Uber driver for driving someone to an abortion clinic for “aiding and abetting.”

[Thread]

Yeah I’m talking about a private citizen lawsuit, say a private citizen sues an Uber driver for driving someone to an abortion clinic for “aiding and abetting.”

"Oh, yeah, aidin' and abettin'. We take a dim view of that here."

That cop -My Cousin Vinny-

[Will Hunting]

thats why there's no chance this law is upheld. courts will not uphold a law where the precedent would lead to absurd results
Imo it seems like the goal of the law was to put almost every abortion provider in Texas out of business by making it so there couldn’t be any injunctive relief before the law is eventually overturned.

[boutons_deux]

My guess TX appeals to 5th circuit, Priscilla Owen! LOL

the shitty, extreme, politicized New Orleans 5th agrees with TX

Feds appeal, it goes to SCOTUS, where the Papists side with pedophile RCC. R v W overturned, stare decisis fucked.

House Dems pass a law codifiying the right to abortion, the minority Senate Repugs block it.

[Thread]

My guess TX appeals to 5th circuit, Priscilla Owen! LOL

the shitty, extreme, politicized New Orleans 5th agrees with TX

Feds appeal, it goes to SCOTUS, where the Papists side with pedophile RCC. R v W overturned, stare decisis fucked.

House Dems pass a law codifiying the right to abortion, the minority Senate Repugs block it.

I'd be so happy, bouts.

And listen, you guys always court shop for your best outcome. You taught us all these dirty, underhanded machinations. We finally started using them.

[DMC]

Dipshit, I just asked you to clarify your point.

I didn't think that was too hard, but I was obviously mistaken.

When I'm talking to you I'll clarify. Is that clear enough?

[Winehole23]

bad for business

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[Thread]

bad for business

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- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

[RandomGuy]

When I'm talking to you I'll clarify. Is that clear enough?

Fair enough.

[RandomGuy]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/241430932_4302910069755270_3908123259769424018_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=SXfcEPaNLt8AX9YbL9r&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=52922db922c888332930331c52d01d56&oe=6161C198

Very much worth harping on.

If Republicans really wanted to limit abortions they would be supporting policies like this.

[boutons_deux]

Very much worth harping on.

If Republicans really wanted to limit abortions they would be supporting policies like this.

Abortion is like immigration reform, Repugs use both "social issues" as campaign tactics.

They don't want to reduce or solve either, rather they want to use them to inflame their ignorant, stupid, white/Christian grievance voters.

[Thread]

Abortion is like immigration reform, Repugs use both "social issues" as campaign tactics.

They don't want to reduce or solve either, rather they want to use them to inflame their ignorant, stupid, white/Christian grievance voters.

Your side does exactly the same thing. You just like to dish it. You don't like to take it, bouts.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/01/supreme-court-texas-abortion-ban-508275


Atleast they are legal USA citizens unlike the illegal kids that have Corvus coming in by the thousands

If the state can ban our constitutional rights simply by paying thugs to do their dirty work for them, we effectively have no constitutional rights at all.

[RandomGuy]

Abortion is like immigration reform, Repugs use both "social issues" as campaign tactics.

They don't want to reduce or solve either, rather they want to use them to inflame their ignorant, stupid, white/Christian grievance voters.

Yup.

you speak more truth than many are prepared to accept. :tu

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/BksClark/status/1435798672940351491?t

If the state can ban our constitutional rights simply by paying thugs to do their dirty work for them, we effectively have no constitutional rights at all.

[DMC]

If the state can ban our constitutional rights simply by paying thugs to do their dirty work for them, we effectively have no constitutional rights at all.

Sorry this is happening to you.

[RandomGuy]

Sorry this is happening to you.

I'm not sure you mental midgets have really thought this through.

Well, what we can do is pass laws that offer $10,000 rewards for anyone who sues someone for being a member of the Republican party.

After all, it isn't the government directly doing anything to the right of freedom of assembly or speech.

Right?

[daboom1]

Sorry this is happening to you.

He's pretty close to getting added to the ignore list.

[ElNono]

We're a society of laws... the feels or morals of the equation should be largely irrelevant, despite they not always are -ElNono

But a law is law until it's not a law. The feels or morals should be largely irrelevant.

Correct. Not sure why you’re repeating my post.

[ElNono]

Quite the opposite. I've been asking about right and wrong. ElNono leaned on law so I went that direction.

Funny how you two come along and pretend that didn't happen.. posters B and C.

I was merely pointing out what Roe established and why. Even though TX law is currently enforceable, Roe is also the precedent for making sure laws like that are short lived. We’ll see what the SCOTUS decides.

[boutons_deux]

shithole TX's shitbags are mean and dumb, Paxton is not a lawyer

Texas AG Ken Paxton serves up incoherent attack on Merrick Garland: His job is to 'worry about Afghanistan'

https://www.alternet.org/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzQzNDcxMi9vcmlnaW4 ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY4MDExMTE2Nn0.e2Sx-PqVheafbaZyKUr5Z9qOb9r6sjO6If019SpuY3Y/image.png?width=1245&quality=85&coordinates=0%2C35%2C0%2C85&height=700

Paxton (https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/?s=Ken+Paxton) tried to attack U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland (https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/?s=Merrick+Garland) by saying his job is not to "worry about" Texas but to worry about "what's going on in Afghanistan," along with the southern border, energy prices, inflation, the economy, and "the world."

The nation's top law enforcement official has little to do with the now-ended war in Afghanistan, the U.S. economy, and even the southern border, not to mention the rest of the world.

His job is not to worry about Texas," :lol Paxton told Steve Bannon, :lol

Attorneys General for decades have done exactly what Garland did Thursday:

sue states for violating federal law or the U.S. Constitution.

But Paxton, ...

"I've never seen a president or administration so interested in in regulating individual states and :lol

what they do this is a, is almost, I think it's unheard of." :lol

https://www.alternet.org/2021/09/paxton-garland/

[Thread]

shithole TX's shitbags are mean and dumb, Paxton is not a lawyer

Texas AG Ken Paxton serves up incoherent attack on Merrick Garland: His job is to 'worry about Afghanistan'

https://www.alternet.org/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzQzNDcxMi9vcmlnaW4 ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY4MDExMTE2Nn0.e2Sx-PqVheafbaZyKUr5Z9qOb9r6sjO6If019SpuY3Y/image.png?width=1245&quality=85&coordinates=0%2C35%2C0%2C85&height=700

Paxton (https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/?s=Ken+Paxton) tried to attack U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland (https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/?s=Merrick+Garland) by saying his job is not to "worry about" Texas but to worry about "what's going on in Afghanistan," along with the southern border, energy prices, inflation, the economy, and "the world."

The nation's top law enforcement official has little to do with the now-ended war in Afghanistan, the U.S. economy, and even the southern border, not to mention the rest of the world.

His job is not to worry about Texas," :lol Paxton told Steve Bannon, :lol

Attorneys General for decades have done exactly what Garland did Thursday:

sue states for violating federal law or the U.S. Constitution.

But Paxton, ...

"I've never seen a president or administration so interested in in regulating individual states and :lol

what they do this is a, is almost, I think it's unheard of." :lol

https://www.alternet.org/2021/09/paxton-garland/



They're just trying to get under Biden's skin. Get him so he doesn't get any sleep, get that BP up there, have Biden walk the floors at night, perhaps get his shingles to start flaring up.

Turnabout is fair play, bouts.

If you can dish it, then you must take it. C'mon, Biden is a ball buster in his own right. He can mix it up with the best of us. So, Texas, Florida, et al are gonna see what's he made of. See if he can keep up. Because, daddy-O, we ain't a gonna stop.

[Ef-man]

shithole TX's shitbags are mean and dumb, Paxton is not a lawyer

Texas AG Ken Paxton serves up incoherent attack on Merrick Garland: His job is to 'worry about Afghanistan'

https://www.alternet.org/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzQzNDcxMi9vcmlnaW4 ucG5nIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY4MDExMTE2Nn0.e2Sx-PqVheafbaZyKUr5Z9qOb9r6sjO6If019SpuY3Y/image.png?width=1245&quality=85&coordinates=0%2C35%2C0%2C85&height=700

Paxton (https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/?s=Ken+Paxton) tried to attack U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland (https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/?s=Merrick+Garland) by saying his job is not to "worry about" Texas but to worry about "what's going on in Afghanistan," along with the southern border, energy prices, inflation, the economy, and "the world."

The nation's top law enforcement official has little to do with the now-ended war in Afghanistan, the U.S. economy, and even the southern border, not to mention the rest of the world.

His job is not to worry about Texas," :lol Paxton told Steve Bannon, :lol

Attorneys General for decades have done exactly what Garland did Thursday:

sue states for violating federal law or the U.S. Constitution.

But Paxton, ...

"I've never seen a president or administration so interested in in regulating individual states and :lol

what they do this is a, is almost, I think it's unheard of." :lol

https://www.alternet.org/2021/09/paxton-garland/



Sounds like something an Armenian computer repairman from Yuma would say. :lol

[Thread]

Sounds like something an Armenian computer repairman from Yuma would say. :lol

Nope, just trollin' that fuck in the White House.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/241691704_5519671721459170_7168498169217509917_n.p ng?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=1mj9SJTeV4IAX_E8fhY&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=d42757799b039f5bf9f391a3eaea0b63&oe=61638CF9

[Winehole23]

1437108953553506304

[boutons_deux]

Racist Confederate shithole TX implementing the Confedercy's NULLIFICATION,

to be followed by other Confederate/red states.

The lawyer who invented the Texas abortion bill essentially confessed he did it to get around the courts

a confession from lawyer Jonathan Mitchell https://fedsoc-cms-public.s3.amazonaws.com/headshots/4iDiOrlwB58ASP4w02IwhWrxmH974LZ5CCxSqYgh.jpeg

that creating the Texas abortion bill was an effort to get around the courts voting to uphold Roe v. Wade.

his statement makes it clear that he crafted the legislation to work around the system.

"The political branches have been too willing

to cede control of constitutional interpretation to the federal judiciary," :lol That's their Constitutional raison d'etre, their fucking job :lol

"But there are ways to counter the judiciary's constitutional pronouncements, :lol

and Texas has shown that the states need not adopt a posture of learned helplessness :lol

in response to questionable or unconstitutional court rulings."

https://www.rawstory.com/lawyer-behind-texas-abortion-law

[RandomGuy]

I was merely pointing out what Roe established and why. Even though TX law is currently enforceable, Roe is also the precedent for making sure laws like that are short lived. We’ll see what the SCOTUS decides.

They will wait until it lands in their docket after being struck down at the lower courts and appealed.

Then they will consider it and strike it down too, because the actual precedence that this law sets is something so abhorrently egregious about government violation of rights that even the hacks that Dump put in place won't be able to let it slide.

Energizing the left and pro-choice voter in the mean time. I thought women were worked up during the Trump presidency, what is happening now in my social media feeds is... incandescent.


If there is a price to be paid at the ballot box, it would be richly deserved.

[RandomGuy]

Imo it seems like the goal of the law was to put almost every abortion provider in Texas out of business by making it so there couldn’t be any injunctive relief before the law is eventually overturned.

Agreed. No way this holds up under final review, but anything that limits abortions in the state is going to be considered a victory by the Eventaliban.

[boutons_deux]

Court backs Planned Parenthood bid

to block lawsuits tied to Texas abortion law;

formal ruling next (https://link.dallasnews.com/lt.php?i=19123A19785A15A869556)

[Will Hunting]

Court backs Planned Parenthood bid

to block lawsuits tied to Texas abortion law;

formal ruling next (https://link.dallasnews.com/lt.php?i=19123A19785A15A869556)









That’ll get upheld by the Travis County Court of Appeals but will then get gutted by SCOTEX.

[boutons_deux]

Texas Abortion Ban Architect Just Really Wants Everyone To Stop Banging, OK?

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Jonathan Mitchell, the former Texas solicitor general who designed the law, has set his sights on overturning Roe v. Wade entirely.

Mitchell said the quiet part out loud when he argued this week in a Supreme Court brief (https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/19/19-1392/185344/20210729162610813_Dobbs%20Amicus%20FINAL%20PDFA.pd f) that one of the reasons that

without Roe, "women can "control their reproductive lives" without access to abortion;

they can do so by refraining from sexual intercourse."

This, really, has always been what the anti-abortion shit has been about.

It was never about the babies,

it was always about reversing course on the sexual revolution.

He also argues that "the freedoms enumerated in the Bill of Rights have nothing to do with sexual liberation or reproductive freedom," but

does not say where in the Bill of Rights it gives anyone a right to force someone to give birth.

In fact, abortion was legal at the time the Bill of Rights was written and remained so in this country until about 1873-1880,

The reason it was outlawed, ... due to the newly-formed American Medical Association (https://www.history.com/news/the-criminalization-of-abortion-began-as-a-business-tactic)

not wanting to compete with midwives and

to prevent women from going to college to study (https://timeline.com/horatio-storer-criminal-abortion-c433606491da) obstetrics and gynecology.

pretty much the entire history of anti-abortion nonsense (as well as much of the history of trying to destroy the social safety net) has been about controlling women.

Same sex marriage and non p-in-v sex may have to go, because people don't really have a "right" to those things any more than people have a right to abortions.

None of this was ever about the babies.

It was always about creating the society that the Christian Right wants

but can't have because they keep losing the "culture war."

https://www.wonkette.com/texas-abortion-ban-architect-just-really-wants-everyone-to-stop-banging-ok

[koriwhat]

"Oh no I only got 6 weeks to figure out if I'm prego so I can abort it!" It takes 5 mins buying a test and using it. It takes less time slipping on a condom or keeping your legs from being spread.

[koriwhat]

LMAO At all you incels pretending like yall ever had a chance to impregnate a chick anyhow in order to kill your unborn. :lmao :tu

[ChumpDumper]

:lol joey projecting

[koriwhat]

^ CumDumpster wishes he was an incel... Sadly he gets pegged by an obese hag nightly. :lol

Glad I get to go home to a 115lb woman nightly who stays fit and doesn't smell like your lazy fat fucking wife bro. :tu

[Ef-man]

:lol joey projecting

What has joey riled up? Is the crack house having a two for one sale?

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao joey "ignoring" me and bragging about his imaginary girlfriend.

[koriwhat]

What has joey riled up? Is the crack house having a two for one sale?

Again bro with the crack? You bring it up every damn time and try to pin it on me as if I have ever been around that shit. I have no clue about crack so why not explain your history with it?

You come across as such a bitch but so many of you "men" here do the same.

[baseline bum]

Again bro with the crack? You bring it up every damn time and try to pin it on me as if I have ever been around that shit. I have no clue about crack so why not explain your history with it?

You come across as such a bitch but so many of you "men" here do the same.

Why? Were you not on something when you decided to get those calf tats?

[koriwhat]

Why? Were you not on something when you decided to get those calf tats?

Tattoos bro, that's literally all they are. All this time and yall dumbfucks harp on a couple tattoos and their placement when most adults these days are tattooed. Wow such a big deal! Oh I forgot, you're Mr. Hyperbole. :tu

You keep on dodging buddy because you lack integrity.

[baseline bum]

Tattoos bro, that's literally all they are. All this time and yall dumbfucks harp on a couple tattoos and their placement when most adults these days are tattooed. Wow such a big deal! Oh I forgot, you're Mr. Hyperbole. :tu

You keep on dodging buddy because you lack integrity.

Why are you always trying to start fights on here like you're twelve years old, joey? You're such a hardass.

[boutons_deux]

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Bounty hunters, mount up, get thee to your lawyers' offices. $10K awaits you.

[koriwhat]

Why are you always trying to start fights on here like you're twelve years old, joey? You're such a hardass.

Lmao You dodge shit because you lack integrity and get upset by it so you consider it "starting fights" as you use insults to boot. Fuck out of here loser!

[baseline bum]

Lmao You dodge shit because you lack integrity and get upset by it so you consider it "starting fights" as you use insults to boot. Fuck out of here loser!

LOL angry Joey

[spurraider21]

Why are you always trying to start fights on here like you're twelve years old, joey? You're such a hardass.
but then he pussied out when BD24 actually wanted to confront him

[baseline bum]

but then he pussied out when BD24 actually wanted to confront him

LOL Kony too

[koriwhat]

LOL angry Joey

No one is angry but there is one person here with 0 integrity and that's you bro. Dodge and swerve some more you old fuck!

[koriwhat]

but then he pussied out when BD24 actually wanted to confront him

SR pushing more FakeNews because you're as much of a pussy as your buddy BD24 is. :tu

[koriwhat]

LOL Kony too

Kony is just as much of a pussy as you are bro

[boutons_deux]

More Than Half of Americans Disagree With Texas Abortion Bill Going Into Effect

54 percent of Americans disagreeing with the bill going into effect,

while 39 percent of respondents said they agreed with the Supreme Court's decision.

Across different political party affiliations,

the poll found 73 percent of Democrats (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/democrats) disagreeing with the decision

while 62 percent of Republicans (https://www.newsweek.com/topic/republicans) say they agree.

https://www.newsweek.com/more-half-americans-disagree-texas-abortion-bill-going-effect-poll-1630910

[boutons_deux]

Major abortion case set for argument on Dec. 1

The Supreme Court announced on Monday (https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_calendars/MonthlyArgumentCalDecember2021.pdf) that it will hear argument on Dec. 1

in a challenge to a Mississippi law that bans almost all abortions after the 15th week of pregnancy.

https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/09/major-abortion-case-set-for-argument-on-dec-1/

the only way to beat the SCOTUS Papists is legislatively legalizing abortion

[Winehole23]

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[boutons_deux]

Gov. Greg Abbott signs more Texas abortion restrictions, penalties into law

The law, set to go into effect in December, could further restrict access to abortion-inducing medication.

it outlaws providing abortion-inducing drugs to Texans after seven weeks of pregnancy.

Although SB 8 already carries the threat of lawsuits against people who “aid or abet,” abortions, including those providers who live out of state, SB 4 increases liability with criminal penalties.

Under SB 4, the charges for “intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly,” violating the provisions of the bill would be a state jail felony, which carries fines of up to $10,000 and between 180 days and two years of imprisonment.

out-of-state providers may be subject to an extradition process.

“I don’t anticipate that if people who are doing things in places where they’re legal, that their governments are going to cooperate with these radical prosecutions,”

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/09/20/gov-greg-abbott-signs-more-texas-abortion-restrictions-penalties-into-law

[boutons_deux]

women-oppessing/regulating forced-birthers disappear after the forced birth

Gov. Greg Abbott, Texas lawmakers cannot leave foster care teens to their fate

The number of children without placement has jumped to alarming levels.

the failure of the state’s foster care system to protect children while complying with reforms rightfully demanded by U.S. District Judge Janis Graham Jack.

the number of children without placement — kids who are housed in unlicensed locations such as state offices, churches and hotels —

has jumped from an average of 22 per night in January to 106 per night in June.

Last year, that average was 10 kids per night between August and December.

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2021/09/20/gov-greg-abbott-texas-lawmakers-cannot-leave-foster-care-teens-to-their-fate

[boutons_deux]

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[boutons_deux]

The "pro-life" TX shitbags refuse to expand Medicaid which would save the health and lives of 1000s of Texans, and many are not black, not brown.

[boutons_deux]

Texas abortion opponents are upset someone is taking advantage of their bounty hunter law

”Neither of these lawsuits are valid attempts to save innocent human lives.” You don’t say!

Instead, he continued, “Both cases are self-serving legal stunts, abusing the cause of action created in the Texas Heartbeat Act for their own purposes.”

As the law you promoted invites.

This was 100% predictable,

baked into the very design of the Texas abortion ban.

Anyone claiming to be surprised at the quality of the initial efforts to collect the $10,000 bounty is

mind-bendingly stupid, or they’re lying.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/21/2053509/-Texas-doctor-goes-public-with-violation-of-abortion-ban-and-the-bounty-hunters-spring-into-action

[boutons_deux]

Florida legislator imports Texas abortion ban

On Wednesday, Florida Representative Webster Barnaby (R), introduced legislation (https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=73228) that tracks Texas' new law banning nearly all abortions.

Like the Texas law, Barnaby's bill would ban all abortions after a "fetal heartbeat" is detected.

That occurs about six weeks into pregnancy — before many women know they are pregnant.

Barnaby's abortion ban, like Texas' law, would only be enforceable by private citizens, who can collect a $10,000 bounty by filing a lawsuit.

Abortion providers or anyone who helps a woman receive an abortion after six weeks could be sued.

And like the Texas law, Barnaby's bill contains no exception for rape or incest.

https://popular.info/p/florida-legislator-imports-texas

==================

Barnaby is a freshman member with a thin legislative record.

he was best known for speaking at three Trump rallies during the 2020 campaign.

In October, Barnaby gave a remarkable invocation at Trump's first campaign after recovering from COVID:


I thank God that Donald Trump has been raised again, :lol

and been given an extension of life. :lol

So Father tonight we thank you that you've healed our land. :lol

You've removed the plague of corona in the name of Jesus. :lol

Tonight you will see evidence of a strong man, Donald J. Trump, a man that's recovered… :lol

Remove fear from this nation in the mighty name of Jesus. :lol


Comcast bankrolls Barnaby and other anti-abortion legislators in Florida

In the 2020 cycle, Comcast donated $225,000 to anti-abortion legislators in Florida

Other corporate donors to Barnaby include


Duke Energy ($1,000),
Greenberg Traurig ($1,000),
NextEra Energy ($2,000),
McGuireWoods ($500), and
StateFarm ($500).


https://popular.info/p/florida-legislator-imports-texas

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/21/2053509/-Texas-doctor-goes-public-with-violation-of-abortion-ban-and-the-bounty-hunters-spring-into-action

Oscar Stilley, who describes himself in his complaint as a “disbarred and disgraced former Arkansas lawyer” on home confinement for “utterly fraudulent federal charges,” wants that $10,000.

”If this is a free-for-all, and it’s $10,000, I want my $10,000,” he told The New York Times. “And yes, I do aim to collect.”

:lol

[boutons_deux]

The federal lawsuit against Texas’s anti-abortion law hit the ball right out of the park.

Here’s why.

United States v State of Texas, on the other hand, is much broader in scope and much more aggressive. Unlike the suit brought by the plaintiffs in WWH v Jackson, U.S. v Texas sues the state of Texas in its entirety.

There is yet another way that U.S. v Texas differs from WWH v Jackson. The federal government’s litigation also sues the state of Texas for violating the due process clause of the 14 Amendment of the United States Constitution, which runs as follows:

No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


For the first time, the enforcement mechanism of SB 8 has been directly challenged as unconstitutional.

Has Texas violated the due process clause with SB 8? Indeed it has, and for the reason the federal government has given.

the due process clause has the effect of prohibiting a state from barring the former slaves (or any U.S. citizen) from securing their equal rights in courts of law, or to make it more difficult for them to do so. (In the law, the latter is called abridgment).

In a brilliant move, the federal government has applied the due process clause to the State of Texas’s law SB 8 and found it wanting.

SB 8 does run afoul of the 14th Amendment.

The enforcement provisions of SB 8 stand for the proposition that, whatever abortion rights women in Texas might be deemed to have under federal law, they have no federally protected right to *access* to abortion.

This is arrant nonsense.

Certainly, the federal government is under no constitutional obligation to provide abortion services itself, nor even to ensure that abortion services are available.

Nor is a state required to provide such services.

But clearly a state cannot act to ensure that abortion services are *not* available in the state,

either, because the right to have an abortion, at least during the non-viability period of the pregnancy, is a guaranteed federal right that cannot be impaired, impeded, or abridged under the due process clause of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

https://twoodiac.medium.com/the-federal-lawsuit-against-texass-anti-abortion-law-hit-the-ball-out-of-the-park-here-s-why-f81103c54840

[boutons_deux]

Texas abortion providers ask U.S. Supreme Court to fast-track their challenge to state’s near-total abortion ban

The Supreme Court had previously declined to block the law

but didn't rule on its constitutionality.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/09/23/texas-abortion-restrictions-supreme-court/

SB8 violates Amendment 14

Will the SCOTUS Catholic conspirators rule as quickly now as they did in a shadow docket midnight unsiged ruling not to block shithole Texas' religious fascists?

[Winehole23]

very unpopular, even with Republicans

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-65-percent-favor-keeping-roe-v-wade

[RandomGuy]

The "pro-life" TX shitbags refuse to expand Medicaid which would save the health and lives of 1000s of Texans, and many are not black, not brown.

They aren't even hiding the racism anymore.

MAGA became Make Racism Acceptable Again

smh

[Winehole23]

US v Texas begins:

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

cynical, dishonest, dumb, or all three at once?

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[Winehole23]

all over the USA, today

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[Thread]

all over the USA, today

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Super-spreader-event. I'll tote a portion of 'em in 14-21 days.
Like money from home.
tee, hee.

[boutons_deux]

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[rmt]

[QUOTE=Winehole23;10610817]all over the USA, today

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAtW6lGX0Aku5Fs?format=jpg&name=large

Maybe she should add: no covid vaccine mandate - doesn't stop me from catching or spreading covid.

[Winehole23]

Maybe she should add: no covid vaccine mandate - doesn't stop me from catching or spreading covid.I know you think that's a snappy comeback, but there's no right to spread a contagious disease and there never has been.

[Thread]

I know you think that's a snappy comeback, but there's no right to spread a contagious disease and there never has been.


Super-spreader-event. I'll tote a portion of 'em in 14-21 days.
Like money from home.
tee, hee.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Fox mandates vaccination, too

[SnakeBoy]

This meltdown :lol

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[DMC]

"keep your laws off my body"
"The law should require everyone to wear a mask!"

Same group

[DMC]

Fox mandates vaccination, too

Private businesses should be allowed to require this.

Now go ahead and pretend "the law" and "private businesses" mean the same things.

[Winehole23]

Private businesses should be allowed to require this.States can require it too and do — it’s pretty much settled law. Ditto the federal government for its own employees.

[Winehole23]

pro-life until birth

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBBKbLkUYAsT8hG?format=jpg&name=large

[DMC]

I know you think that's a snappy comeback, but there's no right to spread a contagious disease and there never has been.

Really? Flu kills thousands every year and yet no one has been arrested.

[DMC]

pro-life until birth

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBBKbLkUYAsT8hG?format=jpg&name=large

You're one of those love the rain not the wet types. Just because the taxpayers don't fund it doesn't mean it's not happening. You're welcome to pay for someone's childcare.. I mean you're ok with giving 50% of your income to the feds as long as they do it, right? You must be since you're using countries as examples who tax the living shit out of people. Norway's lowest income tax rate is 38.2% :lol I'd bet you don't pay anything near that. Of course nanny governments act as nannies.

25% sales tax :lmao

[DMC]

Country Last Previous Reference Unit
Ivory Coast 60 60 Dec/21 %
Finland 56.95 56.95 Dec/21 %
Japan 55.97 55.95 Dec/21 %
Denmark 55.9 55.9 Dec/21 %
Austria 55 55 Dec/21 %
Sweden 52.9 32.3 Dec/21 %
Aruba 52 52 Dec/21 %
Belgium 50 50 Dec/21 %
Israel 50 50 Dec/21 %
Slovenia 50 50 Dec/21 %
Netherlands 49.5 49.5 Dec/21 %
Ireland 48 48 Dec/21 %
Portugal 48 48 Dec/21 %
Spain 47 45 Dec/21 %
Iceland 46.25 46.24 Dec/21 %
Luxembourg 45.78 45.78 Dec/21 %
Australia 45 45 Dec/21 %
China 45 45 Dec/21 %
France 45 45 Dec/21 %
Germany 45 45 Dec/21 %
South Africa 45 45 Dec/21 %
South Korea 45 42 Dec/21 %
United Kingdom 45 45 Dec/21 %
Greece 44 44 Dec/21 %
Italy 43 43 Dec/21 %
India 42.74 42.74 Dec/21 %
Papua New Guinea 42 42 Dec/21 %
Euro area 41.7 41.7 Dec/20 %
Chile 40 40 Dec/21 %
Congo 40 30 Dec/21 %
Guinea 40 40 Dec/21 %
Mauritania 40 40 Dec/21 %
Republic of the Congo 40 40 Dec/21 %
Senegal 40 40 Dec/21 %
Switzerland 40 40 Dec/21 %
Taiwan 40 40 Dec/21 %
Turkey 40 40 Dec/21 %
Uganda 40 40 Dec/21 %
Zimbabwe 40 40 Dec/21 %
Colombia 39 39 Dec/21 %
New Zealand 39 33 Dec/21 %
Norway 38.2 38.2 Dec/21 %
Morocco 38 38 Dec/21 %
Suriname 38 38 Dec/21 %
European Union 37.8 36.9 Dec/21 %
Zambia 37.5 37.5 Dec/21 %
Namibia 37 37 Dec/21 %
United States 37 37 Dec/21 %

[Nathan89]

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Letting children function normally when covid is not a threat to them is reasonable.

Preventing the murder of a baby in the womb after the heart beat is detected seems reasonable.

[DMC]

We want to give all our tax money to illegals crossing the border by the tens of thousands, who don't pay shit back, but we want to have social programs to take care of Americans.

This is the typical American mindset, spend the same money multiple times. Explains why everyone is in debt over their eyeballs.

[Nathan89]

Which state has stopped forcing men to provide for children they don't want?

[Nathan89]

There are men that work long hours to pay for children they don't want or were the result of rape or in fact not even biologically theirs. These people don't think twice about the position the state puts men in. Their propaganda bubble has told them that if men face "x" problem then "y" law would never exist. They are ignorant or liars.

[DMC]

Hold on, Winehole23 is still waiting for a tweeted opinion he can post here. It's on backorder.

[ElNono]

There are men that work long hours to pay for children they don't want or were the result of rape or in fact not even biologically theirs. These people don't think twice about the position the state puts men in. Their propaganda bubble has told them that if men face "x" problem then "y" law would never exist. They are ignorant or liars.

That's because none of those men go through a pregnancy, period.

The question has always been somewhat biological in nature. The woman has to go through gestation and potentially risk her life in the process. That affords her protection under the 14th amendment.

This is why Roe addressed two competing interests. The 14th Amendment right to privacy that allows a person to choose whether to continue her pregnancy vs the State interest in preserving life (both mother and unborn).

Neither right is absolute, and neither right is above the other. That decision, and subsequent ones addressed this matter as solomonically as possible, well aware that until we have a better solution where the body of the mother isn't involved in gestation, there are no other options.

[boutons_deux]

Federal judge blocks enforcement of Texas abortion law

Judge Robert Pittman barred the law from being enforced by "the State", an order that expands even to judges and clerks.

Pittman refused to stay his ruling pending appeal, saying that "The State has forfeited the right to any such accommodation by pursuing an unprecedented and

aggressive scheme to deprive its citizens of a significant and well-established constitutional right."

https://www.rawstory.com/judge-blocks-texas-abortion-law

:lol :lol :lol It's a Trash judge

[Th'Pusher]

That's because none of those men go through a pregnancy, period.

The question has always been somewhat biological in nature. The woman has to go through gestation and potentially risk her life in the process. That affords her protection under the 14th amendment.

This is why Roe addressed two competing interests. The 14th Amendment right to privacy that allows a person to choose whether to continue her pregnancy vs the State interest in preserving life (both mother and unborn).

Neither right is absolute, and neither right is above the other. That decision, and subsequent ones addressed this matter as solomonically as possible, well aware that until we have a better solution where the body of the mother isn't involved in gestation, there are no other options.

This point will not be addressed by pro life Nathan or any of the other pro lifers here. It will also not be addressed by pro choice DMC, but he might continue to attempt to shift the conversation to taxes.

[Winehole23]

Really? Flu kills thousands every year and yet no one has been arrested.So?

[Winehole23]

Cities, counties and states have wide latitude to declare public health emergencies, also to issue and enforce any related regulations.

Apples and oranges.

[spurraider21]

You're one of those love the rain not the wet types. Just because the taxpayers don't fund it doesn't mean it's not happening. You're welcome to pay for someone's childcare.. I mean you're ok with giving 50% of your income to the feds as long as they do it, right? You must be since you're using countries as examples who tax the living shit out of people. Norway's lowest income tax rate is 38.2% :lol I'd bet you don't pay anything near that. Of course nanny governments act as nannies.

25% sales tax :lmao
we're talking about scales here

if i take the position that the government should provide healthcare for its population, and your counterpoint is "you are free to pay for your neighbor's health insurance lol" then you are missing the boat

nobody wants to pay taxes just for the sake of paying taxes. if republicans wanted to raise taxes to support a war or border wall, i'd say fuck that. if somebody wanted to raise taxes to provide healthcare or child care, i'd be all aboard that. i'd also hope that the taxation is done progressively

[Th'Pusher]

we're talking about scales here

if i take the position that the government should provide healthcare for its population, and your counterpoint is "you are free to pay for your neighbor's health insurance lol" then you are missing the boat

nobody wants to pay taxes just for the sake of paying taxes. if republicans wanted to raise taxes to support a war or border wall, i'd say fuck that. if somebody wanted to raise taxes to provide healthcare or child care, i'd be all aboard that. i'd also hope that the taxation is done progressively

Oh wow. DMC argues an extreme straw man that makes no sense to any reasonable person. He’ll:

A) continue to argue until it devolves into semantics.

B) tuck his tail and try to save face by making a milquetoast argument no reasonable person would argue with.

C) abandon thread.

A bit of a jerkoff session tbh.

[DMC]

we're talking about scales here

if i take the position that the government should provide healthcare for its population, and your counterpoint is "you are free to pay for your neighbor's health insurance lol" then you are missing the boat

nobody wants to pay taxes just for the sake of paying taxes. if republicans wanted to raise taxes to support a war or border wall, i'd say fuck that. if somebody wanted to raise taxes to provide healthcare or child care, i'd be all aboard that. i'd also hope that the taxation is done progressively

You have to be more picky with who gets the taxpayer funding, You cannot have porous borders, support undocumented immigrants financially and still have Norway level social programs. How many people flooded across Norway's borders last year?

"Only three out of every 100 would-be refugees try to remain in Norway if their applications for asylum are rejected. A new survey carried out by the state police agency charged with enforcing immigration law indicates that it’s simply too difficult to live as an illegal alien in Norway."

WH is really adept at comparing the US to countries that have completely different circumstances and governments no one here would want. I've seen Japan being touted as a great system, but most here have no fucking clue what living there would be like. Norway's biggest influx of immigrants (not even illegal) was just around 80K in one year. The US sees that weekly.

[DMC]

Oh wow. DMC argues an extreme straw man that makes no sense to any reasonable person. He’ll:

A) continue to argue until it devolves into semantics.

B) tuck his tail and try to save face by making a milquetoast argument no reasonable person would argue with.

C) abandon thread.

A bit of a jerkoff session tbh.
And you'll have nothing interesting to say, and will instead focus on me like always because you're a dullard and likely on the autism spectrum.

[benefactor]

Oh wow. DMC argues an extreme straw man that makes no sense to any reasonable person. He’ll:

A) continue to argue until it devolves into semantics.

B) tuck his tail and try to save face by making a milquetoast argument no reasonable person would argue with.

C) abandon thread.

A bit of a jerkoff session tbh.
:lol tbh

[Th'Pusher]

And you'll have nothing interesting to say, and will instead focus on me like always because you're a dullard and likely on the autism spectrum.

I actually think it’s super interesting to acknowledge the jerkoff session you have going on with left leaning members of ST.

Let’s dive into why you’ll argue points you don’t agree with for the sake of arguing with anonymous men on the internet dmc. Let’s make this all about you.

[DMC]

Defeated by regulations and transparency
Baggerød also noted that many would-be refugees who fail to qualify for asylum protection have put themselves in debt in order to get to Norway. “They have to earn money and it’s important for them to get some source of income that they can’t legally get here,” Baggerød said. They also risk being forcibly returned to their homelands by Norwegian authorities. That’s why many give up their asylum attempts in Norway and move on to a country where prospects for refuge and income are higher.

Magne Løvø, who heads the police division that carries out forced deportations, confirmed that there are far fewer undocumented foreigners in Norway than previously estimated. Asked why so many leave voluntarily, he said he thinks it’s because “Norway must be one of the most transparent societies in Europe.” It’s also highly regulated, where residents’ addresses are registered with local authorities and banks can’t open accounts for people lacking official identification numbers.

“That’s why police here have relatively good control over who lives where, compared to other European countries,” Løvø said.

[DMC]

I actually think it’s super interesting to acknowledge the jerkoff session you have going on with left leaning members of ST.

Let’s dive into why you’ll argue points you don’t agree with for the sake of arguing with anonymous men on the internet dmc. Let’s make this all about you.

Let's instead delve into why you're so enamored with me.

1. You aren't an interesting person
2. Your life doesn't impress you
3. You hope to ride some coattails here for a few +1s
4 You're a faggot

I think 4 is the strongest case to present but I'm open to discuss the others, what say you Target worker?

[DMC]

So the argument for abortion is no one wants to take care of the babies?

:lol

Yet no one wants to take care of the 10K immigrants under the border overpass yet I don't see anyone here calling for their deaths.

[Th'Pusher]

Let's instead delve into why you're so enamored with me.

1. You aren't an interesting person
2. Your life doesn't impress you
3. You hope to ride some coattails here for a few +1s
4 You're a faggot

I think 4 is the strongest case to present but I'm open to discuss the others, what say you Target worker?

Well that’s an embarrassing retort. We all have your shtick pegged. The only difference is some people actually take you seriously or just like dunking on your indefensible takes.

You were so wound up earlier you dug up a post from 2018 and called Adam Lambert a liar to prove you posted in a thread. Wildly stable and not insecure at all.

Any reasonable person finds that shit pathetic…but yeah, call me uninteresting and a faggot.

Maybe time to abandon thread? Or the milquetoast argument no one disagrees with? But maybe you can find someone open to discussing the semantics of the word enamored?

Back to your jerkoff session dodge man…and that’s for the car and the truck. Douche.

[DMC]

Well that’s an embarrassing retort. We all have your shtick pegged. The only difference is some people actually take you seriously or just like dunking on your indefensible takes.

You were so wound up earlier you dug up a post from 2018 and called Adam Lambert a liar to prove you posted in a thread. Wildly stable and not insecure at all.

Any reasonable person finds that shit pathetic…but yeah, call me uninteresting and a faggot.

Maybe time to abandon thread? Or the milquetoast argument no one disagrees with? But maybe you can find someone open to discussing the semantics of the word enamored?

Back to your jerkoff session dodge man…and that’s for the car and the truck. Douche.
:lol You never were able to stand on your own against me.

Now you want to try to steal my shtick. I am the one who pegged all of you.

:lol "any reasonable person" is the worst argument ever since it assumes the speaker is the arbiter of reason.

Again, you're not very bright and I've dragged you from pillar to post here about just about everything you tried to bow up on me about. Now you're still hurting over it and I get it, you probably fancy yourself a tough guy and your mental acuity has always been your weakness so you want to try to flex that here to maybe elevate your self respect a little, but you're not helping your case by pretending to be a narrator. Just fall inline with your mental pecking order (almost dead last for you) and let others who have a registerable IQ have a say. Sometimes the best thing you can do is just sit back and enjoy it since you cannot do anything about it..

[spurraider21]

You have to be more picky with who gets the taxpayer funding, You cannot have porous borders, support undocumented immigrants financially and still have Norway level social programs. How many people flooded across Norway's borders last year?

"Only three out of every 100 would-be refugees try to remain in Norway if their applications for asylum are rejected. A new survey carried out by the state police agency charged with enforcing immigration law indicates that it’s simply too difficult to live as an illegal alien in Norway."

WH is really adept at comparing the US to countries that have completely different circumstances and governments no one here would want. I've seen Japan being touted as a great system, but most here have no fucking clue what living there would be like. Norway's biggest influx of immigrants (not even illegal) was just around 80K in one year. The US sees that weekly.
this isnt about the weeds of immigration policy. its about the dumbass counter of "just because the government doesnt have x program doesnt stop you from doing it out of pocket"

[ElNono]

WH is really adept at comparing the US to countries that have completely different circumstances and governments no one here would want. I've seen Japan being touted as a great system, but most here have no fucking clue what living there would be like. Norway's biggest influx of immigrants (not even illegal) was just around 80K in one year. The US sees that weekly.

Speak for yourself on that one. No system is perfect, but is, say, the Canadian government worse than ours?

[ElNono]

So the argument for abortion is no one wants to take care of the babies?

:lol

Yet no one wants to take care of the 10K immigrants under the border overpass yet I don't see anyone here calling for their deaths.

But the question above is the strawman. Who made that argument outside of Nathan and now you?

Plus, at least personally, I mentioned that the US shouldn't just send the immigrants home. In the particular case of Haitians, the US should also send substantial aid, otherwise you'll have them back here in no time.

[Winehole23]

Let's instead delve into why you're so enamored with me.

1. You aren't an interesting person
2. Your life doesn't impress you
3. You hope to ride some coattails here for a few +1s
4 You're a faggot

I think 4 is the strongest case to present but I'm open to discuss the others, what say you Target worker?

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[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMC flayed as badly as the Texas law.

[Ef-man]

:lol DMC flayed as badly as the Texas law.

Poster B :lmao

[Th'Pusher]

:lol You never were able to stand on your own against me.

Now you want to try to steal my shtick. I am the one who pegged all of you.

:lol "any reasonable person" is the worst argument ever since it assumes the speaker is the arbiter of reason.

Again, you're not very bright and I've dragged you from pillar to post here about just about everything you tried to bow up on me about. Now you're still hurting over it and I get it, you probably fancy yourself a tough guy and your mental acuity has always been your weakness so you want to try to flex that here to maybe elevate your self respect a little, but you're not helping your case by pretending to be a narrator. Just fall inline with your mental pecking order (almost dead last for you) and let others who have a registerable IQ have a say. Sometimes the best thing you can do is just sit back and enjoy it since you cannot do anything about it..

This is rich coming from the guy who argued that any intervention of a government to redistribute wealth is bad and wont acknowledge that the 2nd Amendment right is not unlimited. Don't confuse my lack of interest in participating in your nonsensical longwinded arguments with stupidity.

You're a boomer troll with awesome quips like California is not part of the US. Grow up old man.

[monosylab1k]

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:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Andy Borowitz (https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz?__cft__[0]=AZUI1D73WXPbmJSNCkK_1d4jupc6taS6SOFX_-ZjdcbwRJbb4N3aW_y0b8gC_Rt5tpMU-2fOHylWuu-BtdVQUOTtKFWrKRqj0gD_Y3KTTW1KAn-pPu0GpWeV40s9hd3m7JOrKfNKZxvp1jxA54K6cTlAua-4SvjZIGvirWrU8e9oIo3kQVTNwtk1O5XunN1_um8&__tn__=-UC%2CP-R)

Governor Greg Abbott called the judge’s decision to confer human status on women

“a dark day in the history of our great state.”

[DMC]

this isnt about the weeds of immigration policy. its about the dumbass counter of "just because the government doesnt have x program doesnt stop you from doing it out of pocket"

But it's a fact. What's the difference between paying 40K a year to the federal government for social programs and you helping a family yourself with that same money? Oh because the gubmint good now.

[DMC]

This is rich coming from the guy who argued that any intervention of a government to redistribute wealth is bad and wont acknowledge that the 2nd Amendment right is not unlimited. Don't confuse my lack of interest in participating in your nonsensical longwinded arguments with stupidity.

You're a boomer troll with awesome quips like California is not part of the US. Grow up old man.

Not interested but you follow me around like a lost puppy :lol

[DMC]

pro-life until birth

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBBKbLkUYAsT8hG?format=jpg&name=large


But the question above is the strawman. Who made that argument outside of Nathan and now you?

Plus, at least personally, I mentioned that the US shouldn't just send the immigrants home. In the particular case of Haitians, the US should also send substantial aid, otherwise you'll have them back here in no time.

What argument is this making exactly?

[DMC]

Speak for yourself on that one. No system is perfect, but is, say, the Canadian government worse than ours?

Where is Canada on that list?

Do you want to live in Slovenia?

[spurraider21]

But it's a fact. What's the difference between paying 40K a year to the federal government for social programs and you helping a family yourself with that same money? Oh because the gubmint good now.
because its not just about my family. public policy is about a lot more than me me me

we're talking about scales here

if i take the position that the government should provide healthcare for its population, and your counterpoint is "you are free to pay for your neighbor's health insurance lol" then you are missing the boat

nobody wants to pay taxes just for the sake of paying taxes. if republicans wanted to raise taxes to support a war or border wall, i'd say fuck that. if somebody wanted to raise taxes to provide healthcare or child care, i'd be all aboard that. i'd also hope that the taxation is done progressively

[DMC]

because its not just about my family. public policy is about a lot more than me me me

Helping another family isn't "me me me", are you daft?

"helping a family yourself with that money"

You're another one of the knee jerk responders who don't read shit.

If you don't trust yourself with your own money, that's your problem.

[spurraider21]

Helping another family isn't "me me me", are you daft?

"helping a family yourself with that money"

You're another one of the knee jerk responders who don't read shit.

If you don't trust yourself with your own money, that's your problem.
doesnt address the issue of scale which is the fundamental point in what i re-posted

[DMC]

doesnt address the issue of scale which is the fundamental point in what i re-posted

Scale is just a 10000 foot view. If people helped other people instead of well wishing, the problems would be resolved. When you create a community coffer for people to reach into and pull out money they never contributed to, and don't ever intend on paying back, you basically ensure people who actually need it will have much less than they would otherwise.

Look at COVID scale.. it's still one person infecting other people and so on. The Federal government didn't need to gather all the COVID and hand it out to the needy.

[spurraider21]

Scale is just a 10000 foot view. If people helped other people instead of well wishing, the problems would be resolved. When you create a community coffer for people to reach into and pull out money they never contributed to, and don't ever intend on paying back, you basically ensure people who actually need it will have much less than they would otherwise.

Look at COVID scale.. it's still one person infecting other people and so on. The Federal government didn't need to gather all the COVID and hand it out to the needy.
instead of relying on millions of people conveniently all being charitable to everybody else, i'll just have the government put things into place. makes more sense. and not just being charitable, but making sure resources are allocated to all who need it, not just those who are within view of the charity-doers

its also why we have a military or police force instead of banking on civilian vigilantes or militias

[Adam Lambert]

"If you favor higher taxes then why don't you donate your money to the government" is like Intro to Libertarianism for 19-year-old white men, and DerpMC is still trying to make that argument work at 60+. :lol

It's like arguing with someone who just watched Fight Club for the first time and bases his whole worldview around Tyler Durden monologues.

[Th'Pusher]

Not interested but you follow me around like a lost puppy :lol

Follow you around :lol

I occasionally respond to you, but I generally find you an unserious poster making bad faith arguments. Your ridiculous argument re charity vs taxation and redistribution itt is as good an example as any.

SR21 and EN dunk on you and you seem to enjoy Getting anonymous men’s virtual balls plastered on your face. As long as they’ll go another round, you’re happy.

Or you’re just too fucking stupid to realize you’ve lost the argument.

[Th'Pusher]

"If you favor higher taxes then why don't you donate your money to the government" is like Intro to Libertarianism for 19-year-old white men, and DerpMC is still trying to make that argument work at 60+. :lol

It's like arguing with someone who just watched Fight Club for the first time and bases his whole worldview around Tyler Durden monologues.

Yep

[ElNono]

What argument is this making exactly?

That the US doesn't spend enough in childcare? Not sure what that has to do with abortions.

The following posts brought those two together and that's what I was referencing:


Which state has stopped forcing men to provide for children they don't want?


There are men that work long hours to pay for children they don't want or were the result of rape or in fact not even biologically theirs. These people don't think twice about the position the state puts men in. Their propaganda bubble has told them that if men face "x" problem then "y" law would never exist. They are ignorant or liars.



Where is Canada on that list?

Do you want to live in Slovenia?

Your comment wasn't seemingly restricted to that graph, and I quote:


WH is really adept at comparing the US to countries that have completely different circumstances and governments no one here would want.

But if it was, then my mistake. I do think out of that list Sweden, Germany and Finland for example have 1st world governments that have nothing to envy to the US. Nobody is perfect, but if you've traveled and lived overseas, you know that the whole 'american exceptionalism', especially when it comes to government is a bunch of hubris.

[DMC]

instead of relying on millions of people conveniently all being charitable to everybody else, i'll just have the government put things into place. makes more sense. and not just being charitable, but making sure resources are allocated to all who need it, not just those who are within view of the charity-doers

its also why we have a military or police force instead of banking on civilian vigilantes or militias

Charity is fine, government programs are fine, but it's fiscally retarded to think you can pay everyone in South America and Haiti to live in the US with taxpayer money AND do all the other ideologue shit you want.

[DMC]

That the US doesn't spend enough in childcare? Not sure what that has to do with abortions.

Since America doesn't spend a lot then America must not care about kids, so there's nary room to complain about abortions. Ask WH. It's his tangent.



The following posts brought those two together and that's what I was referencing:








Your comment wasn't seemingly restricted to that graph, and I quote:



But if it was, then my mistake. I do think out of that list Sweden, Germany and Finland for example have 1st world governments that have nothing to envy to the US. Nobody is perfect, but if you've traveled and lived overseas, you know that the whole 'american exceptionalism', especially when it comes to government is a bunch of hubris.

Of course it was. Why else would I mention WH and "countries that have completely different circumstances" and go on to discuss Norway, the number 1 country on that graph?

They have different circumstances, different borders, different climates, cultures and such. Just as Canada doesn't need to spend much on national defense, some other countries don't need to be that concerned with protecting their borders, don't border 3rd world countries and have histories of being ass fucked by Russia or Germany.

Whatever brought you to the US, the conditions and circumstances here created it in some way. You cannot have those ingredients and get something different. When the US builds walls to keep people in, then I will wonder WTF.

[spurraider21]

Charity is fine, government programs are fine, but it's fiscally retarded to think you can pay everyone in South America and Haiti to live in the US with taxpayer money AND do all the other ideologue shit you want.
you're again trying to get into the specifics/weeds of immigration when the point was about people taking it upon themselves to provide social services where the government wont, which is a silly notion and you know it

[Th'Pusher]

you're again trying to get into the specifics/weeds of immigration when the point was about people taking it upon themselves to provide social services where the government wont, which is a silly notion and you know it

Notice though he’s setting the stage for the milquetoast take nobody can disagree with…charity is fine, government programs are fine…

Pegged like a bitch.

[DMC]

you're again trying to get into the specifics/weeds of immigration when the point was about people taking it upon themselves to provide social services where the government wont, which is a silly notion and you know it

It's how this nation was founded. Why is it silly? The point was, instead of paying 50% income tax, take that money and put it where you know it will do good, and that's not on a pallet in Iran.

You don't trust the people but you trust the government elected by those people. Instead of trusting yourself to do the right thing, you still need a parental figure to force you to comply.

[DMC]

Notice though he’s setting the stage for the milquetoast take nobody can disagree with…charity is fine, government programs are fine…

Pegged like a bitch.

You follow me around so much :lol

[Th'Pusher]

You follow me around so much :lol

I’m just providing color commentary to your losing argument. I’m sorry this is happening to you.

[spurraider21]

It's how this nation was founded. Why is it silly? The point was, instead of paying 50% income tax, take that money and put it where you know it will do good, and that's not on a pallet in Iran.

You don't trust the people but you trust the government elected by those people. Instead of trusting yourself to do the right thing, you still need a parental figure to force you to comply.
because its not about ME doing the right thing. this is a country of 330 million people.

i can get by just fine without the social programs that i advocate for. and based on our family's trajectory and future outlook we'd be the ones who would be paying higher taxes as a direct result. but i'm ok with that because i dont only advocate for policies that directly benefit me.

there are millions of folks who need help. me doing some personal charity isn't a drop in the bucket. thats not to say charity is bad. its just insufficient

[ElNono]

Since America doesn't spend a lot then America must not care about kids, so there's nary room to complain about abortions. Ask WH. It's his tangent.

Fair enough.


Of course it was. Why else would I mention WH and "countries that have completely different circumstances" and go on to discuss Norway, the number 1 country on that graph?

They have different circumstances, different borders, different climates, cultures and such. Just as Canada doesn't need to spend much on national defense, some other countries don't need to be that concerned with protecting their borders, don't border 3rd world countries and have histories of being ass fucked by Russia or Germany.

Whatever brought you to the US, the conditions and circumstances here created it in some way. You cannot have those ingredients and get something different. When the US builds walls to keep people in, then I will wonder WTF.

I just don't know that defines a government being good or bad. The US has had largely an open border policy for centuries. Heck, illegal immigration was not even penalized by the US Constitution nor laws until much, much later after it's creation, and they were always loosely enforced.

This country was largely built by immigrants as well, which is an obvious reflection of that policy choice. The big difference back then is that black immigrants were called slaves and were not free. Heck, we loved to ferry in those 'immigrants' back in the day.

Which is really what brings us to today. We love to bring in the jornaleros to pick strawberries for the season nowadays. The problem is when they decide to stay, bring their families or vote.

There was nothing thinly veiled about the previous President stating that he would prefer we get immigrants from Norway instead of Mexico or Haiti. Nobody complains about British or Canadian immigrants or the cost we incur with them.

And obviously, there's nothing surprising about Norway saying, gee, no thanks. They're a fine country and in many respects their government does a much better job than ours do with our people.

At a personal level, what holds me here now is that I built a family here, and it would be hassle to move, but it's also not a possibility I discard outright either given the right opportunity.

[Th'Pusher]

It's how this nation was founded. Why is it silly? The point was, instead of paying 50% income tax, take that money and put it where you know it will do good, and that's not on a pallet in Iran.

You don't trust the people but you trust the government elected by those people. Instead of trusting yourself to do the right thing, you still need a parental figure to force you to comply.

Pallet to Iran :lol

Plus moar neck beard libertarianism 101 from the resident boomer.

Embarrassing

[DMC]

because its not about ME doing the right thing. this is a country of 330 million people.

:lol bullshit. It is always about you controlling what you do. When that "me" is each of the people of society, which it is, then you bet. "It's not about the trash I threw out my car window... it's about the massive amount of litter along the highways around the US."

Anything to remove personal responsibility and defer to the nanny. Yep you're still growing up.


i can get by just fine without the social programs that i advocate for. and based on our family's trajectory and future outlook we'd be the ones who would be paying higher taxes as a direct result. but i'm ok with that because i dont only advocate for policies that directly benefit me.

But you do. You advocate for policies that remove your personal responsibility to help those around you, like having a maid for your ethics, by voting for policies that take the decision away from everyday people and place those decisions with people who DO in fact make decisions based on their own personal well being, the elected officials. It's just deferred responsibility disguised as social awareness.


there are millions of folks who need help. me doing some charity drive isn't going to be a drop in the bucket

More deferring responsibility. I thought you wanted to help people with legal issues, for free. How is helping one person at a time going to change the world?

[Th'Pusher]

because its not about ME doing the right thing. this is a country of 330 million people.

i can get by just fine without the social programs that i advocate for. and based on our family's trajectory and future outlook we'd be the ones who would be paying higher taxes as a direct result. but i'm ok with that because i dont only advocate for policies that directly benefit me.

there are millions of folks who need help. me doing some personal charity isn't a drop in the bucket. thats not to say charity is bad. its just insufficient

No need for a compulsory tax. Human nature will take care of it.

[DMC]

Fair enough.



I just don't know that defines a government being good or bad. The US has had largely an open border policy for centuries. Heck, illegal immigration was not even penalized by the US Constitution nor laws until much, much later after it's creation, and they were always loosely enforced.

This country was largely built by immigrants as well, which is an obvious reflection of that policy choice. The big difference back then is that black immigrants were called slaves and were not free. Heck, we loved to ferry in those 'immigrants' back in the day.

Which is really what brings us to today. We love to bring in the jornaleros to pick strawberries for the season nowadays. The problem is when they decide to stay, bring their families or vote.

There was nothing thinly veiled about the previous President stating that he would prefer we get immigrants from Norway instead of Mexico or Haiti. Nobody complains about British or Canadian immigrants or the cost we incur with them.

And obviously, there's nothing surprising about Norway saying, gee, no thanks. They're a fine country and in many respects their government does a much better job than ours do with our people.

At a personal level, what holds me here now is that I built a family here, and it would be hassle to move, but it's also not a possibility I discard outright either given the right opportunity.
Immigrants are fine. Document them and let them contribute. Porous borders aren't about legal immigration.

I haven't said it's good or bad but whatever it is, many people seem to be stacking up along the border to get in. Why would they do that if they didn't think they could get an anchor baby in and get some handouts? I'd be right with them if I was born in one of those shitholes.

[spurraider21]

:lol bullshit. It is always about you controlling what you do. When that "me" is each of the people of society, which it is, then you bet. "It's not about the trash I threw out my car window... it's about the massive amount of litter along the highways around the US."

Anything to remove personal responsibility and defer to the nanny. Yep you're still growing up.

But you do. You advocate for policies that remove your personal responsibility to help those around you, like having a maid for your ethics, by voting for policies that take the decision away from everyday people and place those decisions with people who DO in fact make decisions based on their own personal well being, the elected officials. It's just deferred responsibility disguised as social awareness.


More deferring responsibility. I thought you wanted to help people with legal issues, for free. How is helping one person at a time going to change the world?
charity isn't a bad thing. its objectively helpful. but it generally will never have the same reach as the government.

its funny, you mentioned how i've had a passion to get into public defense... which is a government program, not personal charity.

you call it a deferral of personal responsibility, i call it being realistic. this is like people who thought we are going to save the planet by doing things like turning off the faucet while brushing our teeth... meanwhile people use significantly more water to keep their lawns nice and pretty. at some point its naivety

[DMC]

charity isn't a bad thing. its objectively helpful. but it generally will never have the same reach as the government.

its funny, you mentioned how i've had a passion to get into public defense... which is a government program, not personal charity.

you call it a deferral of personal responsibility, i call it being realistic. this is like people who thought we are going to save the planet by doing things like turning off the faucet while brushing our teeth... meanwhile people use significantly more water to keep their lawns nice and pretty. at some point its naivety

All these people stacked along the borders are because of the reach their governments had. Who got them to the borders? Not their governments.

So naivety eh, like wearing a mask on a plane that's basically a tube stuffed with people leaning all over you? You probably don't take issue with that one mask thing because it makes you feel like a contributor and it's visible.

Your job only helps one person at a time, Why would you want to do that instead of making more money and paying more taxes to help more people? Surely you cannot make a difference.

[spurraider21]

All these people stacked along the borders are because of the reach their governments had. Who got them to the borders? Not their governments.

So naivety eh, like wearing a mask on a plane that's basically a tube stuffed with people leaning all over you? You probably don't take issue with that one mask thing because it makes you feel like a contributor and it's visible.

Your job only helps one person at a time, Why would you want to do that instead of making more money and paying more taxes to help more people? Surely you cannot make a difference.
you're again shifting the general discussion back to the weeds of immigration :lol

and the airline example is making my point for me. im glad its a rule for everyone to wear masks. rather than just hoping everybody will be a good samaritan.

if the end goal i want is everybody to have health insurance, and i took your approach, i would just cross my fingers and hope that rich people everywhere go out of their way to find poorer people and offer to personally pay their premiums. weird how that hasn't happened yet. no, wait. not weird. the other one. predicable.

[ElNono]

Immigrants are fine. Document them and let them contribute. Porous borders aren't about legal immigration.

I haven't said it's good or bad but whatever it is, many people seem to be stacking up along the border to get in. Why would they do that if they didn't think they could get an anchor baby in and get some handouts? I'd be right with them if I was born in one of those shitholes.

But that's the point, the US has had a history of porous borders. And sorry, if you don't know that illegal immigrants contribute just as much as legal immigrants do, then that's on you.

The reality is that if any illegal immigrant ever wants to ever get legal papers, they need to show they paid taxes for at least 3 consecutive years, and the IRS provides illegal immigrants with a tax number to do so (called ITIN).

And if we're being honest, at least in my experience for the past 20+ years here, there's just as many if not more poor white people being the 'freeloaders'. Which really is not a failure of the safety net, it's a failure of oversight. Being American born doesn't give you the right to abuse any program.

I took exception to the notion that nobody here would want certain governments from other first world countries. I do think a plurality of people would actually like that, including the consequences that come with that (ie: more affordable healthcare in exchange for higher taxes, etc).

[Th'Pusher]

you're again shifting the general discussion back to the weeds of immigration :lol

and the airline example is making my point for me. im glad its a rule for everyone to wear masks. rather than just hoping everybody will be a good samaritan.

if the end goal i want is everybody to have health insurance, and i took your approach, i would just cross my fingers and hope that rich people everywhere go out of their way to find poorer people and offer to personally pay their premiums. weird how that hasn't happened yet. no, wait. not weird. the other one. predicable.

You just don’t understand how personal responsibility works. Your dad does and you will too when you’re 60. It starts with fiscal responsibility.

When everyone is personally responsible and charitable there’s no need for rules or government.

Dmc is basically a slightly more feminine version of rmt :lol

[ElNono]

Ultimately this is very much a discussion on where our tax dollars are spent. I don't think you're wrong DMC in mentioning some countries don't want to pay to defend themselves, and rather put that money in safety nets.

However, that would be my preference for the United States as well, if I get to pick. I do think we spend way too much money in defense, and even healthcare, for the return we get on that money.

[spurraider21]

illegal immigrants contribute in some ways... they do create more economic activity. they do pay sales taxes. some even helped during the production of God of War

but its also true that they almost never are paying income taxes, while still reaping some of the benefits that are funded by those very taxes. the goal should be to get the ones here documented so they can start paying in even more.

[ElNono]

illegal immigrants contribute in some ways... they do create more economic activity. they do pay sales taxes.

but its also true that they almost never are paying income taxes, while still reaping some of the benefits that are funded by those very taxes. the goal should be to get the ones here documented so they can start paying in even more.

the problem if you do that is that at some point they become the majority and then there wouldn't be enough rich white folk to give them charity, tbh

[baseline bum]

Ultimately this is very much a discussion on where our tax dollars are spent. I don't think you're wrong DMC in mentioning some countries don't want to pay to defend themselves, and rather put that money in safety nets.

However, that would be my preference for the United States as well, if I get to pick. I do think we spend way too much money in defense, and even healthcare, for the return we get on that money.

You misspelled offense

[Th'Pusher]

the problem if you do that is that at some point they become the majority and then there wouldn't be enough rich white folk to give them charity, tbh

Dmc, the good thing for you is that you found your huckleberries in these 1st and 2nd generation immigrants that’ll entertain your basic neck beard libertarian arguments :lol

[Winehole23]

Not interested but you follow me around like a lost puppy :lol”following me from thread to thread”

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[ElNono]

Dmc, the good thing for you is that you found your huckleberries in these 1st and 2nd generation immigrants that’ll entertain your basic neck beard libertarian arguments :lol

It was a joke, in case it wasn't clear

[Th'Pusher]

It was a joke, in case it wasn't clear

It was clear. I actually meant to quote your previous response. I can say that I do appreciate your ability to give others the benefit of the doubt that they are making good faith arguments. You’re generally patient and thoughtful in your response regardless of who it is. Except for rmt. You don’t seem to put up with any shit from her :lol

[ElNono]

It was clear. I actually meant to quote your previous response. I can say that I do appreciate your ability to give others the benefit of the doubt that they are making good faith arguments. You’re generally patient and thoughtful in your response regardless of who it is. Except for rmt. You don’t seem to put up with any shit from her :lol

I'm a patient man, but I also admit that I have low tolerance for flat out stupid. DMC might have become a trump fan, or a republican, or just a democrat hater, or just trolling or playing devil's advocate, but I know I've had some intelligent, well thought out discussions with him in the past.

rmt hasn't shown hints of human intelligence yet, tbh, it's like talking to a cultist...

[RandomGuy]

I'm a patient man, but I also admit that I have low tolerance for flat out stupid. DMC might have become a trump fan, or a republican, or just a democrat hater, or just trolling or playing devil's advocate, but I know I've had some intelligent, well thought out discussions with him in the past.

rmt hasn't shown hints of human intelligence yet, tbh, it's like talking to a cultist...

DMC is halfway smart. He just doesn't try very hard, and I have come to believe that is because he has some sort of genuine problem with reading.

[DMC]

you're again shifting the general discussion back to the weeds of immigration :lol

and the airline example is making my point for me. im glad its a rule for everyone to wear masks. rather than just hoping everybody will be a good samaritan.

if the end goal i want is everybody to have health insurance, and i took your approach, i would just cross my fingers and hope that rich people everywhere go out of their way to find poorer people and offer to personally pay their premiums. weird how that hasn't happened yet. no, wait. not weird. the other one. predicable.

You want everyone to have health insurance but you're hoping it happens. You're not making it happen. Put all your hopes into a bucket with that drop of charity and see which one you can actually locate.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMC is such a bitter twat

[DMC]

illegal immigrants contribute in some ways... they do create more economic activity. they do pay sales taxes. some even helped during the production of God of War

but its also true that they almost never are paying income taxes, while still reaping some of the benefits that are funded by those very taxes. the goal should be to get the ones here documented so they can start paying in even more.

That's a goal I agree with as long as you put a check valve in the process so you don't have porous borders where you have a constant influx of illegals that get amnesty. Why even have border patrol or immigration services? You even have people coming from haiti to cross the southern border :lol

[DMC]

It was clear. I actually meant to quote your previous response. I can say that I do appreciate your ability to give others the benefit of the doubt that they are making good faith arguments. You’re generally patient and thoughtful in your response regardless of who it is. Except for rmt. You don’t seem to put up with any shit from her :lol
Too stupid to even get your dingleberry shtick right :lol

[DMC]

DMC is halfway smart. He just doesn't try very hard, and I have come to believe that is because he has some sort of genuine problem with reading.

You're just a tad shy of Boutons and Cosmored, but still a solid echo chamber member.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

You're just a tad shy of Boutons and Cosmored, but still a solid echo chamber member."The Hive"


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[DMC]

:lol WH now accepting anything to mean anything else.

"Hey B sounds like G so DOT!"

[Winehole23]

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[spurraider21]

You want everyone to have health insurance but you're hoping it happens. You're not making it happen. Put all your hopes into a bucket with that drop of charity and see which one you can actually locate.
i think there's a better chance of getting people elected who will make strides toward that than just wishing all the rich people will privately fund it.

[spurraider21]

That's a goal I agree with as long as you put a check valve in the process so you don't have porous borders where you have a constant influx of illegals that get amnesty. Why even have border patrol or immigration services? You even have people coming from haiti to cross the southern border :lol
i've never disagreed with this. one thing we could also do is have more immigration judges so we can process more cases faster, ie expand the amount of legal immigration. we should also criminalize and enforce employers who hire illegals, something which isnt heavily emphasized right now

i dont think the border wall serves as much more than a symbol