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no one here said it was a dominant win. you keep making up stuff that no one here said.
the only claims were that utsa got blown out (a 21 point loss is generally considered a blowout), and that texas was pretty clearly the more talented team, even with a halfhearted effort
:lol "halfhearted effort"
This is the type of comment that wants to paint a picture that it was easier than what it really was. The butthurt prior to the game about the uniform reveal, and players talking shit on Twitter minutes after the game suggests that, if anything, the players took this game really personal for some reason.
at the same time, utsa simply isnt even close to ut's level, and no fan in their right mind would say otherwise.
False. Pure entitlement.
Talent wise, resources wise it should absolutely be the case. On paper that's the case. On the field? Not so much. UTSA is a top G5 program. Gets the most out of it's talent and resources. OTOH, no P5 does so little with so much like UT Austin does. You're not levels above any elite G5 program.
and in terms of the "resilience" chatter, thats referring to how half the players on last years squad would have gotten mad and given up after utsa went up 17-7, leaving it to the freshmen to try to bail them out. those guys are now gone, and it shows.
Don't forget they also went toe to toe and SHOULD have beat Bama! This year's team is different!
and lets not kid ourselves, how much quicker this game would have been over if ewers was playing. receivers were open all over the field, card is just too scared to ever pull the trigger. he fights hard, but hes simply not good.
Possibly. Coulda, woulda, shoulda though. They had Ehlinger (who was solid) for years and they were still a joke.
:lol "halfhearted effort"
This is the type of comment that wants to paint a picture that it was easier than what it really was. The butthurt prior to the game about the uniform reveal, and players talking shit on Twitter minutes after the game suggests that, if anything, the players took this game really personal for some reason.
and yet still blew out utsa by 21
False. Pure entitlement.
Talent wise, resources wise it should absolutely be the case. On paper that's the case. On the field? Not so much. UTSA is a top G5 program. Gets the most out of it's talent and resources. OTOH, no P5 does so little with so much like UT Austin does. You're not levels above any elite G5 program.
and yet still blew out utsa by 21
Don't forget they also went toe to toe and SHOULD have beat Bama! This year's team is different!
Possibly. Coulda, woulda, shoulda though. They had Ehlinger (who was solid) for years and they were still a joke.
and yet still blew out utsa by 21
Monostradamus
09-18-2022, 05:48 PM
400+ yards, 29 first downs, 9/16 on 3rd downs? And Traylor pulled the starters 5 minutes into the 4th Qtr.
They moved the ball just fine and that's despite the unforced mistakes I mentioned. If you want to delude yourself into thinking this was a dominant win go ahead. 24-20 with under a minute left in the 3rd. To me it still looked like a team that does so little with so much. Treated Bama like their super bowl but back to being the same old soft program.
Uh, your team treated this game like it was their Super Bowl :lol
9 times out of 10 they don’t recover the onside kick.
99 times out of 100 that duck the RB threw gets picked off.
Don’t act like Texas caught every break. If it wasn’t for two incredibly unlikely plays going your way, the game may have been over at halftime.
and yet still blew out utsa by 21
and yet still blew out utsa by 21
and yet still blew out utsa by 21
If framing it like an easy, comfortable win makes you feel better about the state of your program then go for it. :tu
Uh, your team treated this game like it was their Super Bowl :lol
9 times out of 10 they don’t recover the onside kick.
99 times out of 100 that duck the RB threw gets picked off.
Don’t act like Texas caught every break. If it wasn’t for two incredibly unlikely plays going your way, the game may have been over at halftime.
Noone is acting like anything. Traylor and team had nothing to lose and they played like it.
But UTSA was up 10-7 before the onside kick and halfback pass, so why would it have been over at halftime without those plays? It's not like UTSA struggled to move the ball throughout the game aside from that "unlikely" halfback pass.
If frami:cryng it like an easy, comfortable win ma:crykes you feel better about the state of :cryour program then go for it. :cry:cry
Noone:cry is acting like anything. Traylor and team had nothing to l:cryose and they played like it.:cry
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But UTSA was up 10-7 before the onside k:cryick and halfback pass, so why would it have been over at halftime without those plays? It's not like UTSA struggled to m:cryove the ball throughout the game aside from that "unlikely" halfback pass.:cry:cry:cry
And self-inflicted, momentum swinging plays...pick 6, key drops, untimely offsides. UTSA definitely had more. That's just fact.
So it's not even like it took UTSA to play a perfect game to hang around with UT Austin. They didn't even have that clean of a game. So either UTSA is really really legit or UT Austin is still mediocre. Pick one. Thats all I'm saying. My guess is it's the latter.
A:crynd self-inflicted, momentum swinging pl:cryays...pick 6, key drops, untimely offsides. UTS:cryA definitely had more. That':crys just fact.
So it's not ev:cryen like it took UTSA to play a perfec:cryt game to hang around with UT Austin. They didn't even:cryhave that clean of a game. So either U:cryTSA is pretty legit or UT Austin is still mediocre:cry. Pick one.:cry:cry
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:cry half effort
:cry Harris prevented 8-10 sacks
:cry UTSA not even close to muh UT
:cry comfortable win
:cry half effort
:cry Harris prevented 8-10 sacks
:cry UTSA not even close to muh UT
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:cry comfortable blowout
:cry comfortable blowout
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lol mad
lol no
They exceeded my expectations. You're the one crying about how UTSA is not even close to UT Austin.
lol no
They exceeded my expectations. You're the one crying about how UTSA is not even close to UT Austin.
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lol so mad
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Sounds like a fabulous prospect as far as physical talent.
What are the goods on his play?
Just ran 3rd fasted 40 in combine history.
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Dude has crazy effortless speed.
Biggems
10-08-2022, 03:11 PM
UTSA choked against Houston. They got served correctly by Texas. Their games are closer than they should be because of Harris throwing untimely picks, which he seems to do every game. Also, you can always count on Franklin to drop some key passes, just like he did against Houston and Texas.
I am not truly a fan of UTSA, but I do root for them because they are here in SA and have several Judson Rockets on the roster. I honestly believe that if Harris can eliminate the stupid interceptions, he can make a great NFL backup. He has the size, arm talent, and athleticism to do so. Also, he is just a natural leader. However, he just loses his head and throws some ill-advised balls every game.
Of the 3 main WRs, Cephus is my favorite. Franklin is probably the most talented, but his hands are too unreliable. I love the toughness and body control that Cephus displays. Plus, he is a big dude.
They need to find that next RB to carry the load the way Sincere did. He has shown to be tough to replace this year. They have another Judson Rocket in the backfield, De'Anthony Lewis. I hope they give him a shot soon, he was a stud in HS.
UTSA choked against Houston. They got served correctly by Texas. Their games are closer than they should be because of Harris throwing untimely picks, which he seems to do every game. Also, you can always count on Franklin to drop some key passes, just like he did against Houston and Texas.
I am not truly a fan of UTSA, but I do root for them because they are here in SA and have several Judson Rockets on the roster. I honestly believe that if Harris can eliminate the stupid interceptions, he can make a great NFL backup. He has the size, arm talent, and athleticism to do so. Also, he is just a natural leader. However, he just loses his head and throws some ill-advised balls every game.
They really should've beat Houston. Would be 5-1 with their lone loss at DKR and they were right in that game for 3 quarters. That'd be a solid resume worthy of receiving some votes in the polls.
I would say there have been a lot of untimely turnovers that have made games closer than they need to be. Yesterday it was the fumble by Brady. The drops by Zakhari have been back breakers too and are essentially turnovers since they've been on 4th downs. For me there have only been two picks by Harris that were on him. The pick 6 against UT and one at Middle Tennessee where he threw it behind an open WR at the goaline. The others were just good plays by DLine or corners, imo.
Harris has become so much more than I ever thought he would. I used to be on the Josh Adkins (Smithson Valley guy, New Mexico St starter before transferring to UTSA) train in Traylor's first year. But sticking with Harris ultimately ended up being the right move. He has turned himself into such a great college QB. I don't think he has an NFL arm but I could see him continuing his career at the Alamodome for the San Antonio XFL team.
Of the 3 main WRs, Cephus is my favorite. Franklin is probably the most talented, but his hands are too unreliable. I love the toughness and body control that Cephus displays. Plus, he is a big dude.
JT Clark is my guy. He came onto the scene a year after Cephus and Franklin, but I've felt for a while that he was the most physically gifted guy. He's really put it together this year and leads the team (and CUSA) in all receiving statistical categories. He has an NFL body and can high point the ball better than the other two guys. I think Franklin and Cephus might get UDFA deals but Clark for sure gets drafted.
They need to find that next RB to carry the load the way Sincere did. He has shown to be tough to replace this year. They have another Judson Rocket in the backfield, De'Anthony Lewis. I hope they give him a shot soon, he was a stud in HS.
Lewis got injured in camp. So did Cobbs. There were talks Lewis was just as good as Sincere. That's why Brady (Steele) "unretired" and came back for his super senior year.
Injuries have hit hard this season. They're playing a walk on at tackle. Got an all conference RT back from injury yesterday but lost their LT. Lost two interior DL yesterday for the year as well.
Biggems
10-09-2022, 09:48 PM
They really should've beat Houston. Would be 5-1 with their lone loss at DKR and they were right in that game for 3 quarters. That'd be a solid resume worthy of receiving some votes in the polls.
I would say there have been a lot of untimely turnovers that have made games closer than they need to be. Yesterday it was the fumble by Brady. The drops by Zakhari have been back breakers too and are essentially turnovers since they've been on 4th downs. For me there have only been two picks by Harris that were on him. The pick 6 against UT and one at Middle Tennessee where he threw it behind an open WR at the goaline. The others were just good plays by DLine or corners, imo.
Harris has become so much more than I ever thought he would. I used to be on the Josh Adkins (Smithson Valley guy, New Mexico St starter before transferring to UTSA) train in Traylor's first year. But sticking with Harris ultimately ended up being the right move. He has turned himself into such a great college QB. I don't think he has an NFL arm but I could see him continuing his career at the Alamodome for the San Antonio XFL team.
JT Clark is my guy. He came onto the scene a year after Cephus and Franklin, but I've felt for a while that he was the most physically gifted guy. He's really put it together this year and leads the team (and CUSA) in all receiving statistical categories. He has an NFL body and can high point the ball better than the other two guys. I think Franklin and Cephus might get UDFA deals but Clark for sure gets drafted.
Lewis got injured in camp. So did Cobbs. There were talks Lewis was just as good as Sincere. That's why Brady (Steele) "unretired" and came back for his super senior year.
Injuries have hit hard this season. They're playing a walk on at tackle. Got an all conference RT back from injury yesterday but lost their LT. Lost two interior DL yesterday for the year as well.
I knew about the OL injuries, but had no clue about the RB injuries. Clark is very good too. I put Franklin at number 3 if I am ranking them for the draft.
Should've just tackled him instead of going for the strip but cot damn that speed :wow
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3rd pick in as many games :tu
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was at the game this Saturday. this was my third UTSA game and i have to say that i am really enjoying these games and watching this team play. the game was closer than it probably should have been but it was a nice gut check win.
UTSA choked against Houston. They got served correctly by Texas. Their games are closer than they should be because of Harris throwing untimely picks, which he seems to do every game. Also, you can always count on Franklin to drop some key passes, just like he did against Houston and Texas.
I am not truly a fan of UTSA, but I do root for them because they are here in SA and have several Judson Rockets on the roster. I honestly believe that if Harris can eliminate the stupid interceptions, he can make a great NFL backup. He has the size, arm talent, and athleticism to do so. Also, he is just a natural leader. However, he just loses his head and throws some ill-advised balls every game.
Of the 3 main WRs, Cephus is my favorite. Franklin is probably the most talented, but his hands are too unreliable. I love the toughness and body control that Cephus displays. Plus, he is a big dude.
They need to find that next RB to carry the load the way Sincere did. He has shown to be tough to replace this year. They have another Judson Rocket in the backfield, De'Anthony Lewis. I hope they give him a shot soon, he was a stud in HS.
it's great to see the local talent play well. too many local kids get overlooked as the SA area plays second fiddle to the DFW, Houston and even Austin area. but these kids can play. judson seems to be playing better as of late, btw. should come down to them and steele for district (per usual).
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This team has such a ridiculous record in one possession games over the past two years. That Houston loss was the rare exception. Might have snuck into the Top 25 by now if they had held on to the lead that game.
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I hope we hang on to him for as long as we can, but I don't see how UT or A&M don't end up throwing the bank at him within 2 years max... with the shit shows both those schools have going.
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Biggems
10-23-2022, 11:05 AM
it's great to see the local talent play well. too many local kids get overlooked as the SA area plays second fiddle to the DFW, Houston and even Austin area. but these kids can play. judson seems to be playing better as of late, btw. should come down to them and steele for district (per usual).
it will come down to Steele. we have improved, but we have a ways to go. Favela is a breath of fresh air at the QB spot and he is just a sophomore. we still make too many mistakes. our C is still having hiking issues. Our K is very inconsistent. Our OL struggles a lot to make holes in the running game on a consistent basis or even pass protect consistently. Our WRs tend to drop easy passes. All of this and we are still putting up some nice points. We should have beat Hutto, but that kid hit a 52 yd FG to beat us. However, the FG try doesn't happen if the refs make the right call on the field. The ball it the ground before the receiver secured it. It should have been on the Hutto side of the field with only a few seconds left. Basically, it should have been a hail mary situation. The refs missed the call, it happens. Still, 52 yd FGs in HS, are you kidding me.
the 44-0 win-loss to East Central is a huge black eye for us. It was the best game they played from start to finish is a few years, but they lost due to forfeit. The position coaches need to do a better job of checking with the teachers about grades. all it took was 1 failing kid to ruin it for the rest.
So we have to win our last 2 games to guarantee a winning record. Both Steele and NB are playing very well this year. I see us splitting, losing to Steele and beating NB. That will give us a 5-5 record and we will be in the playoffs. Then, we have to win at least 2 games to end up with a total winning record.
Number 13, CB, is great in coverage. Unfortunately, he has hands of stone. He has dropped about 5 or 6 INTs this year. Also, if he keeps his head up instead of going for the big hit, he is in position to drop about 3 more, LOL.
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Blake
10-23-2022, 05:53 PM
I hope we hang on to him for as long as we can, but I don't see how UT or A&M don't end up throwing the bank at him within 2 years max... with the shit shows both those schools have going.
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Neh, he really doesn't have enough experience in the bank to garner blue blood attention unless he came cheap. He turned down tech pretty quickly to sign that extension so I think it's clear he's happy where he's at.
traylor is a good fit for the UTSA program and i hope he stays for years to come. A&M and UT have too much hubris to seek him out. they both still think that they only deserve the biggest and brightest names. that very same hubris continues to be the downfall of both programs.
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Cardenas is unbelievably clutch. His footwork for such a big guy is amazing.
Cardenas is unbelievably clutch. His footwork for such a big guy is amazing.
i know the kid; he's a great, great person. very humble and respectful. i'm so glad to see him getting some recognition.
it will come down to Steele. we have improved, but we have a ways to go. Favela is a breath of fresh air at the QB spot and he is just a sophomore. we still make too many mistakes. our C is still having hiking issues. Our K is very inconsistent. Our OL struggles a lot to make holes in the running game on a consistent basis or even pass protect consistently. Our WRs tend to drop easy passes. All of this and we are still putting up some nice points. We should have beat Hutto, but that kid hit a 52 yd FG to beat us. However, the FG try doesn't happen if the refs make the right call on the field. The ball it the ground before the receiver secured it. It should have been on the Hutto side of the field with only a few seconds left. Basically, it should have been a hail mary situation. The refs missed the call, it happens. Still, 52 yd FGs in HS, are you kidding me.
the 44-0 win-loss to East Central is a huge black eye for us. It was the best game they played from start to finish is a few years, but they lost due to forfeit. The position coaches need to do a better job of checking with the teachers about grades. all it took was 1 failing kid to ruin it for the rest.
So we have to win our last 2 games to guarantee a winning record. Both Steele and NB are playing very well this year. I see us splitting, losing to Steele and beating NB. That will give us a 5-5 record and we will be in the playoffs. Then, we have to win at least 2 games to end up with a total winning record.
Number 13, CB, is great in coverage. Unfortunately, he has hands of stone. He has dropped about 5 or 6 INTs this year. Also, if he keeps his head up instead of going for the big hit, he is in position to drop about 3 more, LOL.
Rocket Pride
to start the year, i wasn't sure what to think of judson. all that talent wasn't adding up to wins. the forfeit hurt but they are playing much better now and they have some solid D1 talent. the turnaround for Steele has been the play of the Cornerstone transfers, Warner at QB and Cappell at WR (both sophomores). They are solid D1 players and will be getting some real offers. I'm not exaggerating when I say that Warner will end up being the best QB Steele has ever had. so for the first time since the Justin Stockton years, Steele has explosive players again. they have some injuries though and not sure who will be back for this game. it's a rivalry so it will be brutal. but yeah, the forfeit will ultimately give Steele the title because they won't lose to Clemens. how far they can go this year depends on where Westlake lands (D1 or D2) and a possible rematch with Brennan. ultimately, getting through either Katy or North Shore is a formidable task for whatever team comes out of the SA area.
Blake
10-25-2022, 12:00 PM
Cardenas is unbelievably clutch. His footwork for such a big guy is amazing.
I think it's great that schools all over from top to bottom have access to phenomenal skill players.
Really the only difference from top to bottom are the players on the line
Neh, he really doesn't have enough experience in the bank to garner blue blood attention unless he came cheap. He turned down tech pretty quickly to sign that extension so I think it's clear he's happy where he's at.
traylor is a good fit for the UTSA program and i hope he stays for years to come. A&M and UT have too much hubris to seek him out. they both still think that they only deserve the biggest and brightest names. that very same hubris continues to be the downfall of both programs.
Hope y'all are right. But I fear if Billy Napier brings Florida back, which I kinda think he will over time, blue bloods might be more open to plucking from G5s.
Traylor has a very similar trajectory to Napier. Perennial Top 25 team at ULL (or very close to it), ran the Sunbelt, and was one of those rare coaches that didn't jump at the first P5 offer. IIRC Miss St and others came after him hard and he was patient until Florida came calling.
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#25 in coaches poll and just missed the cut in the AP poll at #26. Not expecting much for the CFP poll since they didn't even have us top 25 last year when we were Top 20 in both other polls.
I have a lot of admiration for UCF since they are basically the blueprint for what UTSA wants to be...but them getting the nod over UTSA for that 25th spot is a reputation thing. They have some bad losses on their resume, imo.
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#25 in coaches poll and just missed the cut in the AP poll at #26. Not expecting much for the CFP poll since they didn't even have us top 25 last year when we were Top 20 in both other polls.
I have a lot of admiration for UCF since they are basically the blueprint for what UTSA wants to be...but them getting the nod over UTSA for that 25th spot is a reputation thing. They have some bad losses on their resume, imo.
yeah, i thought the loss to navy would have dropped them from the top 25. of course. texas will always find a way back into the top 25 but they do have the head to head against UTSA. i still think that if UTSA wins out they'll get into the AP top 25 as well.
10-2 regular season, 8-0 in CUSA
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Not the best showing but a good amount of Top 25 teams lost, so I think it's a pretty safe bet that they'll get into the AP Top 25 this week. Letting that HOU game slip away sucks. They'd be sitting at 11-1 and probably in the driver's seat for the NY6 bowl slot which is just crazy to think about, tbh.
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got my tickets for the championship game. UTSA has a depleted roster but they've made it this far. hopefully, it's a good crowd.
got my tickets for the championship game. UTSA has a depleted roster but they've made it this far. hopefully, it's a good crowd.
Should be high 30s - low 40s, imo. They opened up the upper deck yesterday I believe. Atmosphere should be similar to last year's title game. :tu
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I think UTSA probably belongs in the top 25 of the CFP ranking which would be a nice recognition for them if they end the season at least ranked. I'm sure they'll be happy to leave C-USA since it has a terrible media deal in terms of exposure.
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Should be high 30s - low 40s, imo. They opened up the upper deck yesterday I believe. Atmosphere should be similar to last year's title game. :tu
it was a nice turnout. we actually had quite a few UNT fans in our section and they were very spirited. they took a lot of flack but all in good fun.
7th year :wow
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7th year :wow
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that's crazy when you hear it but he did basically miss his first two years and the COVID year was a wash so in many ways this is like a 4th year. i'm hearing that cardenas is likely returning as well.
ChumpDumper
12-09-2022, 02:18 PM
7th year :wow
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:lol Is he getting a PhD.?
Great match-up, shitty time slot. Going to have to DVR it and catch it after work. Both teame ranked, won their conference title and on 10 game winning streaks.
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benefactor
12-16-2022, 05:32 PM
Bad interception there
Robz4000
12-16-2022, 06:11 PM
:lmao wasting that run
benefactor
12-16-2022, 06:16 PM
:lmao wasting that run
Gotta take the points there with that much time left
benefactor
12-16-2022, 06:28 PM
That last play encapsulates the game. UTSA has been actively giving it away all game
That last play encapsulates the game. UTSA has been actively giving it away all game
such an uncharacteristic game for UTSA; they played their worst game of the season today. should have won that game.
Those mfers had 155 total yards of offense and got escorted into the end zone by the refs on their first TD drive. Then got gifted a personal foul "late hit" on #9 Cardenas on their second TD:
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Between that and the offense kinda shitting the bed its hard to not come away feeling like UTSA snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. :pctoss
Those mfers had 155 total yards of offense and got escorted into the end zone by the refs on their first TD drive. Then got gifted a personal foul "late hit" on #9 Cardenas on their second TD:
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Between that and the offense kinda shitting the bed its hard to not come away feeling like UTSA snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. :pctoss
that gifted drive was a momentum killer. UTSA had them on the ropes. that doesn't forgive the dropped passes and poor throws though. on a good day, UTSA would have beaten Troy by a couple of TDs. it was just a really ugly loss, which made it more difficult to swallow.
pgardn
12-19-2022, 04:39 PM
Do you guys know of any good sites or You tube "experts" who follow UTSA recruiting and also know the portal and what they need for next year?
There are some really good ones for UT, but there are also some pretty terrible stuff. I looked up their On3 and 247 commitment list. Anything big coming their way such as a player who was forced out of a big 5 commit due to numbers and such... I would like to keep up like I can now with UT. Any underrated local players... that kind of stuff.
that gifted drive was a momentum killer. UTSA had them on the ropes. that doesn't forgive the dropped passes and poor throws though. on a good day, UTSA would have beaten Troy by a couple of TDs. it was just a really ugly loss, which made it more difficult to swallow.
Yeah, a part of me feels that Troy offense was so bad they might not put up any points without some of those BS calls and therefore 12 points might've been enough. But it shouldn't have come to that. UTSA had plenty of chances to win despite those calls.
Do you guys know of any good sites or You tube "experts" who follow UTSA recruiting and also know the portal and what they need for next year?
There are some really good ones for UT, but there are also some pretty terrible stuff. I looked up their On3 and 247 commitment list. Anything big coming their way such as a player who was forced out of a big 5 commit due to numbers and such... I would like to keep up like I can now with UT. Any underrated local players... that kind of stuff.
@theJJPerez and UTSAINSIDERS (247)
@RivalsJavi and @UTSARivals (Rivals)
Following those accounts on Twitter is probably the next best thing to signing up for a subscription service to either of those sites.
Alamodome Audible podcast also does a good job of putting out a thorough recruiting podcast this time of the year for early signing day and in February for regular signing day.
Yeah, a part of me feels that Troy offense was so bad they might not put up any points without some of those BS calls and therefore 12 points might've been enough. But it shouldn't have come to that. UTSA had plenty of chances to win despite those calls.
@theJJPerez and UTSAINSIDER (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=18476)S (247)
@RivalsJavi and @UTSARivals (Rivals)
Following those accounts on Twitter is probably the next best thing to signing up for a subscription service to either of those sites.
Alamodome Audible podcast also does a good job of putting out a thorough recruiting podcast this time of the year for early signing day and in February for regular signing day.
thanks for the tips. following them now.
I know ratings are an inexact science but it's always better to be up top than not. Pretty sure UTSA's average recruit rating is higher than Memphis too, they just signed more people. Although tbf, I haven't checked, but I'm guessing SMU's average recruit rating probably tops the G5.
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