General playoff thread

[Neo.]

Its not over for Memphis,,,,Morant is an absolutely beast. I would pick him over any player in the league right now to build a team around. Hes only 2 years in and hasnt even scratched the surface of his prime and came 1 rebound short today from a triple double with 34/10/9. Remember the Griz lost game 1 at home to Minnesota in the 1st round,,,,this series is far from over.

sounds like you would build some pretty awful teams then. a small guard who is a mega athlete but with limited skills. feels like a familiar story tbh

[exstatic]

Its not over for Memphis,,,,Morant is an absolutely beast. I would pick him over any player in the league right now to build a team around. Hes only 2 years in and hasnt even scratched the surface of his prime and came 1 rebound short today from a triple double with 34/10/9. Remember the Griz lost game 1 at home to Minnesota in the 1st round,,,,this series is far from over.

Memphis had a worse record with him than without him. He’s on the Harden track of useless points, coupled with losing basketball.

[TimDunkem]

HemisfairBoomer with the awful take per usual

[rjv]

warriors are definitely vulnerable against teams with athletic bigs. and klay is not quite there yet. so this notion of GS being back is media hyperbole. i think they beat the grizz but i don't see them hoisting the larry o'brien at the end of the year.

[Spurs Homer]

Its not over for Memphis,,,,Morant is an absolutely beast. I would pick him over any player in the league right now to build a team around. Hes only 2 years in and hasnt even scratched the surface of his prime and came 1 rebound short today from a triple double with 34/10/9. Remember the Griz lost game 1 at home to Minnesota in the 1st round,,,,this series is far from over.


grizz could still win the series- but they are stupid idiots who shoot themselves in the foot over and over and over…

this is why most great teams lose two or three times in the playoffs and suffer emotionally during the offseason…
then, if a good group of guys remain together

they then climb the mountain after some painful playoff exits

game one was one such fuckup

a) dirty ass raymond was ejected- this wont happen again
b) refs actually called a pretty balanced game- THIS wont happen again in the series
c) jj jackson had a monster game- THIS wont happen again in the series until the grizz are facing elimination- maybe
d) wait til the refs are at gs home game and they don their “stephi kid gloves” and watch a few grizz players foul out


nope , grizz shot themselves in the foot and after they do this for 1-3 more years- they might just mature
but it is not their time yet

[R. DeMurre]

a) dirty ass raymond was ejected- this wont happen again
b) refs actually called a pretty balanced game- THIS wont happen again in the series
c) jj jackson had a monster game- THIS wont happen again in the series until the grizz are facing elimination- maybe
d) wait til the refs are at gs home game and they don their “stephi kid gloves” and watch a few grizz players foul out




Where does this refs-want-the-Warriors-to-win conspiracy theory come from? What would be the purpose of the league favoring them? Also, doesn't Draymond getting ejected kind of negate that? They easily could've called that a Flagrant One and let him stay in the game.

[daslicer]

Where does this refs-want-the-Warriors-to-win conspiracy theory come from? What would be the purpose of the league favoring them? Also, doesn't Draymond getting ejected kind of negate that? They easily could've called that a Flagrant One and let him stay in the game.

They get special treatment on the defensive end and on the offensive end by the refs consistently. Bogut even admitted in an interview recently that he was allowed to set illegal screens every game for Steph and Klay and was hardly ever called for a foul. You will see the refs still allow this to happen consistently. On defense Draymond is allowed to hack, grab, and foul the shit out people without it hardly ever being called. Draymond getting ejected doesn't negate this because he hardly ever gets ejected. 9 out 10 times the refs don't throw him out of the game when they should. This was just a once in a blue moon type of event. The refs also allow the Warriors as a whole to play by 90's defensive rules in which they are allowed to hand check consistently without the whistle blown.

The purpose of the league favoring them is because they are media darlings, and they get high ratings which leads to more money for the league.

[daslicer]

warriors are definitely vulnerable against teams with athletic bigs. and klay is not quite there yet. so this notion of GS being back is media hyperbole. i think they beat the grizz but i don't see them hoisting the larry o'brien at the end of the year.

Klay to me will never be the same player he once was. He won't ever get the mobility he once had back after tearing his ACL and then Achilles. He will have moments where he will look like his old self for a game or two but his body won't allow him to sustain it.

[rjv]

Klay to me will never be the same player he once was. He won't ever get the mobility he once had back after tearing his ACL and then Achilles. He will have moments where he will look like his old self for a game or two but his body won't allow him to sustain it.

yeah. i have to agree. he's going to have to adapt. i will credit klay though on that last defensive play against ja. klay knew morant was going to go let and he had just enough lateral movement to force ja farther away from the basket. klay had the smarts that ant-man did not when morant did the same against the wolves to close out the series.

[R. DeMurre]

They get special treatment on the defensive end on the offensive end by the refs consistently. Bogut even admitted in an interview recently that he was allowed to set illegal screens every game for Steph and Klay and was hardly ever called for a foul. You will see the refs still allow this to happen consistently. On defense Draymond is allowed to hack, grab, and foul the shit out people without it hardly ever being called. Draymond getting ejected doesn't negate this because he hardly ever gets ejected. 9 out 10 times the refs don't throw him out of the game when they should. This was just a once in a blue moon type of event. The refs also allow the Warriors as a whole to play by 90's defensive rules in which they are allowed to hand check consistently without the whistle blown.

The purpose of the league favoring them is because they are media darlings, and they get high ratings which leads to more money for the league.


The Warriors were called for more fouls per game this season than any other playoff team except for Minnesota, and were #4 for fouls in the league. I was just on a Golden State site where everyone was talking about how the game was clearly rigged in favor of Memphis. The one thing I never hear anyone say is that a game was poorly officiated, but fortunately all of the bad calls went in favor of the narrator's favorite team, that being the biggest reason they won. Weird.

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/traditional/?sort=PF&dir=1&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

[PrimeMinister]

warriors in 5

everything that could have gone right for memphis went right in game 1, and they lost.

[ZeusWillJudge]

They get special treatment on the defensive end on the offensive end by the refs consistently. Bogut even admitted in an interview recently that he was allowed to set illegal screens every game for Steph and Klay and was hardly ever called for a foul. You will see the refs still allow this to happen consistently. On defense Draymond is allowed to hack, grab, and foul the shit out people without it hardly ever being called. Draymond getting ejected doesn't negate this because he hardly ever gets ejected. 9 out 10 times the refs don't throw him out of the game when they should. This was just a once in a blue moon type of event. The refs also allow the Warriors as a whole to play by 90's defensive rules in which they are allowed to hand check consistently without the whistle blown.

The purpose of the league favoring them is because they are media darlings, and they get high ratings which leads to more money for the league.


I can't say about the rest of those things, or why the refs let it happen, but Bogut's screens were one of the most baffling things I've ever seen. There has to be a conscious decision to not blow whistles when it's that bad. I don't know that it was at a league level, or that it wasn't. But he did it so flagrantly, and so many times per game that there was no missing it.

[Seventyniner]

I can't say about the rest of those things, or why the refs let it happen, but Bogut's screens were one of the most baffling things I've ever seen. There has to be a conscious decision to not blow whistles when it's that bad. I don't know that it was at a league level, or that it wasn't. But he did it so flagrantly, and so many times per game that there was no missing it.

The Dubs coaching staff probably just told him to keep doing it until the refs started calling it. But they never started calling it.

[Spurs Homer]

Where does this refs-want-the-Warriors-to-win conspiracy theory come from? What would be the purpose of the league favoring them? Also, doesn't Draymond getting ejected kind of negate that? They easily could've called that a Flagrant One and let him stay in the game.

Are you joking?
Have you ever watched the nba games from 2015-2020?

Did you not watch as green committed about 3 fouls - BEFORE- he wound up and smacked that dude in the face and then pulled him down to the floor - except right at the end he tried to stop his fall?

Did you not see green body-slam morant on that fall morant took and landed on his back?

Green commits about 40 fucking fouls per game - and gets called for about 3-4 of them - and he bitches, berates, screams, and generally throws a fucking tantrum after every call...

this has gone on for YEARS -

when he fouls out - it is a fucking miracle - and will not happen again for a long time -

did you never watch the refs standing right next to green, zaza, bogut, and other warriors big men - committing moving screen after moving screen after moving screen -

to allow curry or thompson to have a free three point shot attempt?

Where have you been?

[TD 21]

I still have the Warriors beating Memphis but lol @ all the "those pukes are about to win the whole thing, Warriors got this" talk already.

I remember last year when everyone kept saying the Clippers were the favorites. Let the series play out first before we start proclaiming champions.

:lmao I said most likely and as if there's anything wrong with giving a prediction.

They were until Scumbag's injury derailed them.

[SAGirl]

Are you joking?
Have you ever watched the nba games from 2015-2020?

Did you not watch as green committed about 3 fouls - BEFORE- he wound up and smacked that dude in the face and then pulled him down to the floor - except right at the end he tried to stop his fall?

Did you not see green body-slam morant on that fall morant took and landed on his back?

Green commits about 40 fucking fouls per game - and gets called for about 3-4 of them - and he bitches, berates, screams, and generally throws a fucking tantrum after every call...

this has gone on for YEARS -

when he fouls out - it is a fucking miracle - and will not happen again for a long time -

did you never watch the refs standing right next to green, zaza, bogut, and other warriors big men - committing moving screen after moving screen after moving screen -

to allow curry or thompson to have a free three point shot attempt?

Where have you been?
Main reason I can't stand Green. And you should see the campaign he's made in his podcast, social media, Steph Curry talking on his behalf and the team pressuring the league to change that to a flagrant 1, so that he can avoid a suspension when he commits other flagrant in the future, going so far as to say he got that whistle bc of his reputation... And Steph specifically saying that any other player doesn't get called for a flagrant 2 there. OMG! Are they listening to themselves. If Draymond gets suspended in the future it's only his own fault. Warriors are insufferable and some of their fans are the worst crybabies ever.

[Spurs Homer]

Main reason I can't stand Green. And you should see the campaign he's made in his podcast, social media, Steph Curry talking on his behalf and the team pressuring the league to change that to a flagrant 1, so that he can avoid a suspension when he commits other flagrant in the future, going so far as to say he got that whistle bc of his reputation... And Steph specifically saying that any other player doesn't get called for a flagrant 2 there. OMG! Are they listening to themselves. If Draymond gets suspended in the future it's only his own fault. Warriors are insufferable and some of their fans are the worst crybabies ever.

damn

wasnt aware of this..lol

nba will probably let them have their way and then when green injures someone and ends their season
the nba will just say green accidentally injured the guy

disgusting

[Texas_Ranger]

Wouldnt be surprised if suns sweep. They are just so much better than the mavs.

It is sad to see Doncic get fouled a lot and get zero calls. No wonder he bitches so much. If only refs sucked his dick as they suck Embiids. Unfortunately hes European, so he has to get on with it, just like Jokic.

[daslicer]

damn

wasnt aware of this..lol

nba will probably let them have their way and then when green injures someone and ends their season
the nba will just say green accidentally injured the guy

disgusting

He needs to have a few moments where he gets punched out by opposing players and only then will the league put an end to his antics. Unfortunately, I don't ever see that happening.

[exstatic]

Wouldnt be surprised if suns sweep. They are just so much better than the mavs.

It is sad to see Doncic get fouled a lot and get zero calls. No wonder he bitches so much. If only refs sucked his dick as they suck Embiids. Unfortunately hes European, so he has to get on with it, just like Jokic.

Are you on crack? Doncic cries and gets calls on a Harden level.

[daslicer]

Main reason I can't stand Green. And you should see the campaign he's made in his podcast, social media, Steph Curry talking on his behalf and the team pressuring the league to change that to a flagrant 1, so that he can avoid a suspension when he commits other flagrant in the future, going so far as to say he got that whistle bc of his reputation... And Steph specifically saying that any other player doesn't get called for a flagrant 2 there. OMG! Are they listening to themselves. If Draymond gets suspended in the future it's only his own fault. Warriors are insufferable and some of their fans are the worst crybabies ever.

He's narcissist so he's naturally good at self promoting himself and manipulating people. Look at how he has won over Barkley who at first hated him. His whole career really started with him promoting himself as a good defensive player. I had never heard of this scrub until '14-'15 season when he started saying in a bunch of interviews he was a great defensive player and his teammates started echoing it a bunch of times along with Kerr. He had a great publicity campaign that season and then started to get special treatment from the refs because it's human nature if you hear things over and over again most people will eventually believe it

Steph and his teammates along with Kerr are going to defend Draymond no matter what. I get why they are doing it logically even though I don't agree with it. Draymond gives them an edge and they know it when it comes to getting underneath their opponent's skin along with what he brings defensively since the refs allow him to get away with hacking and fouling on just about every possession. It's a huge advantage they get from it. He is also Steph's biggest defender since Steph by nature is a soft guy who doesn't have a natural toughness edge which Draymond provides for him. Steph would still put-up great numbers without him but he gives him an edge no one else probably could outside of an enforcer.

[XDT76]

He's narcissist so he's naturally good at self promoting himself and manipulating people. Look at how he has won over Barkley who at first hated him. His whole career really started with him promoting himself as a good defensive player. I had never heard of this scrub until '14-'15 season when he started saying in a bunch of interviews he was a great defensive player and his teammates started echoing it a bunch of times along with Kerr. He had great publicity campaign that season and then started to get special treatment from the refs because it's human nature if you hear things over and over again most people will eventually believe it

Steph and his teammates along with Kerr are going to defend Draymond no matter what. I get why they are doing it logically even though I don't agree with it. Draymond gives them an edge and they know it when it comes to getting underneath their opponent's skin along with what he brings defensively since the refs allow him to get away with hacking and fouling on just about every possession. It's a huge advantage they get from it. He is also Steph's biggest defender since Steph by nature is a soft guy who doesn't have a natural toughness edge which Draymond provides for him. Steph would still put-up great numbers without him but he gives him an edge no one else probably could outside of an enforcer.

Steph is a great shooter but in the mid 2010s if not for Green and Bogut illegal screens Steph numbers would be much lower.

[daslicer]

Steph is a great shooter but in the mid 2010s if not for Green and Bogut illegal screens Steph numbers would be much lower.

I agree

[Neo.]

Are you on crack? Doncic cries and gets calls on a Harden level.

:lmao no. he cries but doesn't get half the calls that guys like harden used to get

[R. DeMurre]

Green commits about 40 fucking fouls per game - and gets called for about 3-4 of them -




:lol I'm no fan of Draymond's behavior on the court, but your take on it is a tad over the top. I mean, he was suspended for a finals game and that ultimately cost his team a title against Lebron & the Cavs. The idea that there's a league-wide conspiracy led by Adam Silver (I assume?) to let the Warriors win games... well, let's just say I don't buy it. How does it work? Does Silver address all of the refs directly to cheat, in a group chat, or does he just text the crew chief?

[Ice009]

Any Spur fan rooting for the Warriors to win this series should get their heads checked. I don't know how you could pull for the Warriors after what happened in '17 with Zaza. I get how some could hate the Grizzlies after Ja has lit up the Spurs every time he has played them but outside of that they have no history with the Spurs.

I hate the Warriors more, but I am also still dirty on Memphis for 2011 where they tanked to get the Spurs in the first round. Manu breaks his arm in the last game of the season and misses game 1 which the Grizzlies win. Even with an injured Manu who still top scored for the series, if he played in game one, the Spurs still may have won the game and series. Grizzlies got so lucky that series. I think it's also where grit and grind started (correct me if I am wrong), but yeah, a Manu injury and them tanking really pisses me off. They built a reputation off of an unearned series IMO. They didn't outplay the Spurs as the Spurs didn't have their best player that season at 100% (Manu had a great season that year before breaking his arm). To top all that off, Rondo hurts/hyper extends his arm in the first round and all the national media does is go on about how tough he is and how great he's playing, yet Manu broke/fractured his arm (missed the first game that likely cost us the series), came back and still somehow top scored for the series despite not being close to 100%, yet nothing about his toughness was ever mentioned in the national media.

It looks like I will have to go for Chris Paul (and I hate this dirty little prick) or the Mavericks as I hope both the Warriors and Grizzles lose. I like a lot of the current crop of Grizzlies players, but Morant is starting to put me off of him with the way he's been playing. Not as smart of a player as I thought. The games against the Spurs he always looks amazing, but he's looking very ordinary at times against other teams. Still, I guess I would prefer Memphis to beat the Warriors.

[Spurs Homer]

:lol I'm no fan of Draymond's behavior on the court, but your take on it is a tad over the top. I mean, he was suspended for a finals game and that ultimately cost his team a title against Lebron & the Cavs. The idea that there's a league-wide conspiracy led by Adam Silver (I assume?) to let the Warriors win games... well, let's just say I don't buy it. How does it work? Does Silver address all of the refs directly to cheat, in a group chat, or does he just text the crew chief?

Well, you could ACTUALLY WATCH the games…
watch green play defense…draped on his opponents back, hacking, swiping, pushing, mauling,on EVERY FUCKING PLAY

then

watch his opponent get pissed and do EXACTLY the same thing and immediately get called for fouls.

watch Jokic get mauled repeatedly by green and get no call in the first round series…
then jokic get frustrated and play physical - just like he got fouled- and watch the refs foul him out as they did in that series…

then ACTUALLY WATCH every time green gets called for a foul and watch as 9 times out of ten-
he goes after the refs, crying, yelling, making an absolute ass of himself

until the refs get so fucking tired they just stop calling his fouls

they get bullied and instead of putting green in his place
they allow him to just play as dirty as he wants

just watch the games ferchrissakes

[exstatic]

:lmao no. he cries but doesn't get half the calls that guys like harden used to get

He was #6 in the NBA this year in FTAs. That’s not what happens when you ‘don’t get foul calls’. His four years in the league, he’s ranked 10,3,6,6 in FTAs.

[Neo.]

He was #6 in the NBA this year in FTAs. That’s not what happens when you ‘don’t get foul calls’. His four years in the league, he’s ranked 10,3,6,6 in FTAs.

shooting a good number of FTs doesn't mean you shouldn't be getting more.

to say he gets zero calls is absurd. but to say he gets harden level calls is equally absurd. it's pretty obvious he gets screwed on a lot of calls, last night being an excellent example of there being a good 3-4 times where he was blatantly fouled and no call at all.

[Chris Fall]

Luka should probably be shooting 11-12 free throws or more a game, easy. He should perennially be top 3 in FTA along with Freak and Embiid. Maybe top 4 if you add Jokic. Luka attacks the basket probably more than any other perimeter player other than Freak, if you consider him a perimeter player. That's debatable.

The thing that separates Houston Rockets Harden's fouls drawn was that he'd get pretty much any foul he wanted on a drive even when he created the contact, legitimate foul or flop. Luka gets nowhere near the rate of fouls per drive. I'd bitch at the refs too. He gets mauled and they let them play. While small pussy floppers like Trae Young or CP3 get calls for being brushed by a fingertip.

[R. DeMurre]

Well, you could ACTUALLY WATCH the games…
watch green play defense…draped on his opponents back, hacking, swiping, pushing, mauling,on EVERY FUCKING PLAY

then

watch his opponent get pissed and do EXACTLY the same thing and immediately get called for fouls.

watch Jokic get mauled repeatedly by green and get no call in the first round series…
then jokic get frustrated and play physical - just like he got fouled- and watch the refs foul him out as they did in that series…

then ACTUALLY WATCH every time green gets called for a foul and watch as 9 times out of ten-
he goes after the refs, crying, yelling, making an absolute ass of himself

until the refs get so fucking tired they just stop calling his fouls

they get bullied and instead of putting green in his place
they allow him to just play as dirty as he wants

just watch the games ferchrissakes


Yes, you're right. Draymond commits 40 fouls a game. Let me guess, Spurs Homer: You're probably of the opinion that Bruce Bowen never put his foot underneath the feet of shooters, right? You gave yourself the name HOMER :lol... so it's not hard to understand why you think the NBA universe is a giant conspiracy against your favorite team.

[Texas_Ranger]

ive seen a lot of '' why cant Luka make his teammates better?''.... yea Luka, why dont u make undrafted players and second rounders better. Also love seeing the ''he needs to pass the ball more and let others create''... yea, Luka, you should trust the midget Brunson and the ice cold Dinwiddie more, just so they can fuck it up and then he can take over again... On the end of the day its pretty simple. The Mavs roster is a giant pile of shit. They dont have any good bigs and zero reliable shooters. They will also make a giant mistake overpaying Brunson istead of getting a legit big that can at least play defense or a shooter that can actually make open shots.
I also loved some retards saying Booker>Doncic... You put Devin Booker on that Dallas team instead of Luka, they win 20 games. We all saw how good Devin Booker is as the main guy.

[itzsoweezee]

Wouldnt be surprised if suns sweep. They are just so much better than the mavs.

It is sad to see Doncic get fouled a lot and get zero calls. No wonder he bitches so much. If only refs sucked his dick as they suck Embiids. Unfortunately hes European, so he has to get on with it, just like Jokic.

What a clown take. Hate to see spurs fans rooting for the mavs. How far we’ve fallen.

[Texas_Ranger]

What a clown take. Hate to see spurs fans rooting for the mavs. How far we’ve fallen.

i root for my countryman, i give zero fucks about the mavs. I think that they are with the Spurs and Kings the dumbest organization in the league.

[rjv]

brunson's value just dropped a bit after last night's performance. was it an aberration or a revelation?

[ZeusWillJudge]

brunson's value just dropped a bit after last night's performance. was it an aberration or a revelation?


I didn't get to watch that game. I wouldn't make too much out of a single game. All I can see from the stats is that Brunson had a bad night shooting. I don't know if Phoenix targeted him after him being the Mav's scoring leader in the first round.

The funny thing is that after the Utah series, the NBA's website had an article about some of the revelations in the playoffs so far, and Brunson was one of them. What I do know that he's one of the biggest bargains in the league this year at $1.8M, and he's going to get paid as an unrestricted FA. I really want the Spurs to come up with length, and I see the issues with both him and Murray on the floor. But he's a guy that I would be happy to see in SA just the same.

I don't think he'll be going at a discount after that game.

[Neo.]

brunson's value just dropped a bit after last night's performance. was it an aberration or a revelation?

part of it was a bad night, he missed several layups and floaters he usually hits, but he has a history of being bothered by long defenders. however last night he was able to actually get a lot of good looks that I've not seen him get before on such defenders. will have to see how the series plays out.

[rjv]

I didn't get to watch that game. I wouldn't make too much out of a single game. All I can see from the stats is that Brunson had a bad night shooting. I don't know if Phoenix targeted him after him being the Mav's scoring leader in the first round.

The funny thing is that after the Utah series, the NBA's website had an article about some of the revelations in the playoffs so far, and Brunson was one of them. What I do know that he's one of the biggest bargains in the league this year at $1.8M, and he's going to get paid as an unrestricted FA. I really want the Spurs to come up with length, and I see the issues with both him and Murray on the floor. But he's a guy that I would be happy to see in SA just the same.

I don't think he'll be going at a discount after that game.

i agree and i was being deliberately hyperbolic but if he has a bad series then i do think he will suffer a bit of a drop in value, depending on how bad he looks. my thinking is that he will play much better at home. brunson is not my first choice in regards to who the spurs should covet but i do love his character. i also think think the biggest threat to wooing him away from dallas is the knicks.

[itzsoweezee]

brunson's value just dropped a bit after last night's performance. was it an aberration or a revelation?

He was in foul trouble and never got in the flow of the game. He’s been good all season. He’s going to get paid regardless.

[rjv]

He was in foul trouble and never got in the flow of the game. He’s been good all season. He’s going to get paid regardless.

i'm sure the knicks have their bank vault already opened up and waiting to offer him whatever he wants.

[BatManu20]

Really pulling for Derrick to play well but dude just sucks offensively tbh. And it all starts with his inability and refusal to shoot open 3’s.

[Dex]

Really pulling for Derrick to play well but dude just sucks offensively tbh. And it all starts with his inability and refusal to shoot open 3’s.

Yeah, apparently it's not just us....browsing the reddits, Celtic fans are already complaining about how he slows down the offense, makes slow decisions, and generally just doesn't seem to make an impact on that side of the floor.

[KingKev]

Really pulling for Derrick to play well but dude just sucks offensively tbh. And it all starts with his inability and refusal to shoot open 3’s.

It’s a guaranteed brick 75% of the time tbh. I’d rather him shoot 25% on 2 attempts a game vs 5 like when he was here.

[PhantomDashCam]

Really pulling for Derrick to play well but dude just sucks offensively tbh. And it all starts with his inability and refusal to shoot open 3’s.


Yeah, apparently it's not just us....browsing the reddits, Celtic fans are already complaining about how he slows down the offense, makes slow decisions, and generally just doesn't seem to make an impact on that side of the floor.


Yeah, he's so tentative. Early, but you can tell teammates aren't even looking for him now (and deservedly so). He's passed up too many shots.
His overall confidence level appears to be at one of the lowest points since becoming a Pro.

I would suggest giving him some reps on ball as the initiator of the Offense, but Milwaukee is likely to sag or possibly trap him and cause a turnover which could lead to even more of a mental funk.

[Mr. Body]

A lot of blowouts in this second round.

[Spurs Homer]

Yes, you're right. Draymond commits 40 fouls a game. Let me guess, Spurs Homer: You're probably of the opinion that Bruce Bowen never put his foot underneath the feet of shooters, right? You gave yourself the name HOMER :lol... so it's not hard to understand why you think the NBA universe is a giant conspiracy against your favorite team.

wrong

When Bowen played - the NBA had not installed that foul where you have to allow the player to land -
Bowen was aggressive and crowded the shooter -
and in todays NBA -

he would foul out every game -

I never agreed he was a dirty player like Green -

hell if Bowen was allowed to play like Green - as aggressive as Green and not get called for fouls -
the spurs would have won more titles

[emanueldavidginobili]

Grant Williams is a really solid basketball player.

[Robz4000]

:lol all Boston is doing is chucking threes

[lefty20]

Bud should've prolly to emptied the bench there.

[lefty20]

Early ejection, elbow to the face... this gonna be a good game.

[GAustex]

Warriorref in fine form

[daslicer]

Early ejection, elbow to the face... this gonna be a good game.

Curry got a scrape and is bleeding now. This series could get ugly. Grizzlies need to win. I get vibes they really hate the Warriors.

[daslicer]

Kyle Anderson has been the worst player on the court.

[NASpurs]

Kyle Anderson has been the worst player on the court.

The guy hasn't been on our team for like four or five years and I get embarrassed watching his shit

[baseline bum]

The guy hasn't been on our team for like four or five years and I get embarrassed watching his shit

SloMo past his prime and slowing down further?

[daslicer]

SloMo past his prime and slowing down further?

The warriors are leaving him open on purpose and he's bricking shots left and right. He's also committed some stupid turnovers.

[baseline bum]

The warriors are leaving him open on purpose and he's bricking shots left and right. He's also committed some stupid turnovers.

Ah the Turkoglu 04 defense

[NASpurs]

SloMo past his prime and slowing down further?

Remember when he was supposed to be the next Bobo? :lol

He's a FA next year right? Probably still oozing corporate knowledge.

[daslicer]

Remember when he was supposed to be the next Bobo? :lol

He's a FA next year right? Probably still oozing corporate knowledge.

Knowing the Spurs they will bring him back like they did Forbes last offseason.

[MultiTroll]

Bud should've prolly to emptied the bench there.
Idiotic keeping Freak and Holliday in.
The game was lost, what was the point.

[ZeusWillJudge]

These are shaping up to be some great series. Boston wasn't so easy to get rid of, and it's looking like Memphis might not be either.

I don't like Philly's chances without Embiid, and I'm having a hard time seeing Dallas provide any real worries for the Suns, but the other two are looking like slugfests.

[daslicer]

These are shaping up to be some great series. Boston wasn't so easy to get rid of, and it's looking like Memphis might not be either.

I don't like Philly's chances without Embiid, and I'm having a hard time seeing Dallas provide any real worries for the Suns, but the other two are looking like slugfests.

If the Grizzlies can win this game I think this series could be an old school series in the sense both teams genuinely don't like each other which leads to a lot of intense basketball.

[MultiTroll]

Insufferable Phaggot weighs in on the Grizzleys D:

Kerr later said in an interview on the TNT broadcast that the style of play in the first quarter "wasn't physical, that was dirty."

[MultiTroll]

Grizzleys make really stupid unforced turnovers to kill momentum far too often.

Need to clean that up if they want to advance.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Insufferable Phaggot weighs in on the Grizzleys D:

Kerr later said in an interview on the TNT broadcast that the style of play in the first quarter "wasn't physical, that was dirty."


Lots of people defend Kerr because he played here. He's a contemptible little weasel. He'll be taking his whine to the league to try and get more favorable treatment next game. And it will probably work. It's sort of ironic, considering some of the things his players have done.

Anyone is free to argue, but you aren't going to change my mind. I dislike Kerr intensely.

[daslicer]

Lots of people defend Kerr because he played here. He's a contemptible little weasel. He'll be taking his whine to the league to try and get more favorable treatment next game. And it will probably work. It's sort of ironic, considering some of the things his players have done.

Anyone is free to argue, but you aren't going to change my mind. I dislike Kerr intensely.

Agreed he's manipulating the situation and trying to push a narrative to get the Warriors even more favorable treatment from the refs along with getting Brooks suspended. Look for the Warriors to lobby hard to try to get Brooks suspended for the next game. Kerr is also a Phill Jackson disciple. This is something a lot of people forget. He's using the same tactics Phil Jackson used to get favors with the refs, media, etc.

Kerr is a POS he's a front runner.

[PhantomDashCam]

Hope Memphis holds on. Ja’s performance tonight is legendary.

[lefty20]

Spiking the ball like that is usually an automatic T, isnt it?

[Mr. Body]

Spiking the ball like that is usually an automatic T, isnt it?

Draymond does that shit all the time.

[daslicer]

Spiking the ball like that is usually an automatic T, isnt it?

It normally is but the rules are different for Draymond.

[Neo.]

Spiking the ball like that is usually an automatic T, isnt it?

was such a pathetic call even someone as trash as Scott foster couldnt give the T

[Slippy]

Hope Memphis holds on. Ja’s performance tonight is legendary.

Ya aka little wayne sealed the deal in the 4th .

[SAGirl]

Hope Memphis holds on. Ja’s performance tonight is legendary.
Morant getting to an MVP level if he eliminates the warriors.

[Mr. Body]

Morant getting to an MVP level if he eliminates the warriors.

I mean, they were supposed to win this game and barely did. They split at home.

[SAGirl]

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[Spurs Homer]

Just fucking unbelievable that draymond can just give hard foul after hard foul after hard foul

and the refs just “play on”

then they finally call one and draymond goes ballistic….


lol

and draymond has actually been restrained this game compared to his usual fuckery

it will be a war at gs
but i cannot see how the refs will call two fair games in a row at gs
so the grizz need a lucky break or two to steal one game at gs

[PhantomDashCam]

From the 4:16 mark of the last Q, Ja scored Memphis’ final 13 points.
Bane was physically hobbled throughout, Brooks was ejected early and JJJ fouled out.

This was a special performance. Glad I got to witness it.

[MultiTroll]

Incredibly WarriorRef is absent on two absolute key plays down the strech.
Currys layup was indeed goaltending. Virtually impossible to see in regular motion but i did the super slo mo and sure enough it was barely goaltending.
Now normally we would say hey 50-50 call whatever, not bad reffing. But we are talking WarriorRef here. That is AUTOMATIC goaltending in previous years.

2. The Gaymond shove on Ja. Really wasn't much of a shove. Ja did the Ginobili level theatrics well afterwords but cmon. And trust me i hate Apemond. But sure seemed like a no call was in order. Again, the incredible part is WarriorRef calling the shove on Green. Of course when Green slammed the ball on the court no call. :lol

Anyone else semi stunned WarriorRef did not come thru in the clutch?

[emanueldavidginobili]

Wow insane performance from Ja, crazy he's only 22 :lol

[SAGirl]

I mean, they were supposed to win this game and barely did. They split at home.
This is a simplistic view that minimizes the game ja had taking over when the team needed him to and no single costar, just a bunch of youngins and coach finding a group that could support him. Jaren fouling was a problem as always. Among other things. They don’t win that game without Ja and that’s what MVP’s do for you. Do not underestimate the GSW monster. I said two days ago maybe it’s the beginning of the end for them but they aren’t done.

[HemisfairArena]

sounds like you would build some pretty awful teams then. a small guard who is a mega athlete but with limited skills. feels like a familiar story tbh


This is what this poster replied when I posted Ja Morant would be the player I would start a team with of any player in the league,,,,,:lmao

[Mr. Body]

This is a simplistic view that minimizes the game ja had taking over when the team needed him to and no single costar, just a bunch of youngins and coach finding a group that could support him. Jaren fouling was a problem as always. Among other things. They don’t win that game without Ja and that’s what MVP’s do for you. Do not underestimate the GSW monster. I said two days ago maybe it’s the beginning of the end for them but they aren’t done.

Morant having to drop 47 in order to win this ain't a good thing.

[Neo.]

This is what this poster replied when I posted Ja Morant would be the player I would start a team with of any player in the league,,,,,:lmao

one amazing game doesn't change the fact that he's basically a skinny russ with handles :lmao

[MultiTroll]

From the 4:16 mark of the last Q, Ja scored Memphis’ final 13 points.
Bane was physically hobbled throughout, Brooks was ejected early and JJJ fouled out.

This was a special performance. Glad I got to witness it.
2 shots stood out to me.
1 The one where instead of continuing towards the hoop in another crazy jump, he stopped reversed doing a misdirection. Sidestepped one way and the defenders totally went for it. Stopped and sidestepped the other way for the short shot. Very nice.

2. When he drove and looked like another long looping lefthanded banker was coming. Instead pulled up for the shot, stopped, switched the ball from his left hand to his right and did the shotput type jumper. Nicely done.

This kind of growth will really open up his game and clutch shooting.

[HemisfairArena]

one amazing game doesn't change the fact that he's basically a skinny russ with handles :lmao

only one amazing game?,,,,:lmao,,,,let me know when russ carried the Thunder to the 2 seed and 2nd round of the playoffs without Durant,,,ill wait for your response.

[HemisfairArena]

Morant having to drop 47 in order to win this ain't a good thing.

Jordan did the same thing when he was in the playoffs at a young age,,,,things seem to have turned out alright for him and the Bulls. Morant is gaining experience and confidence and will be deadly when he hits his prime.

[Mr. Body]

Jordan did the same thing when he was in the playoffs at a young age,,,,things seem to have turned out alright for him and the Bulls. Morant is gaining experience and confidence and will be deadly when he hits his prime.

Cool, now Ja Morant is Michael Jordan. And Jordan lost those series, by the way.

[HemisfairArena]

Cool, now Ja Morant is Michael Jordan. And Jordan lost those series, by the way.


Where did I say Morant was Jordan?,,,,are posters really this dense on here? Simply showing a parallel between the two. And again,,,that was my point about Jordan and Morant,,,Morant wont win the title this year but he is becoming the beast he will be in coming years as the Griz build a better team around him like the Bulls did for Jordan. Just wait and see what Morant can do if he ever gets a sidekick like Jordan had in Pippen.

[Neo.]

only one amazing game?,,,,:lmao,,,,let me know when russ carried the Thunder to the 2 seed and 2nd round of the playoffs without Durant,,,ill wait for your response.

:rollin thinking you stumped someone with your completely retarded logic

use some more commas for dramatic effect in the meanwhile

[HemisfairArena]

:rollin thinking you stumped someone with your completely retarded logic

use some more commas for dramatic effect in the meanwhile

Well here it is, folks,,,,neo got facts shoved up his ass and now he's trapped in a corner so he results to personal insults,,,,:lmao

[PhantomDashCam]

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[daslicer]

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Draymond complaining about the fans being nasty about his injury is laughable not because it isn't true but because he is surprised they would cheer for him getting hurt. It shows he has a lack of awareness. He's a grade a douchebag and he brings out the hatred he receives on himself by the way he acts and antagonizes the crowd. He likes being the villain but hates dealing with the consequences of being the villain.

[PhantomDashCam]

Draymond complaining about the fans being nasty about his injury is laughable not because it isn't true but because he is surprised they would cheer for him getting hurt. It shows he has a lack of awareness. He's grade a douchebag and he brings out the hatred he receives on himself by the way he acts and antagonizes the crowd. He likes being the villain but hates dealing with the consequences of being the villain.

His lack of self awareness is on another level. Not to mention in the last game he's jeering/revving up the crowd and laughing when he got the Flagrant 2...


https://youtu.be/kjeAMfW3RS0

[daslicer]

His lack of self awareness is on another level. Not to mention in the last game he's jeering/revving up the crowd and laughing when he got the Flagrant 2...


https://youtu.be/kjeAMfW3RS0

Not only did he rev up the crowd for the flagrant 2 in game 1 but he rubbed it in at the end of the game when the Warriors won with his celebrations in the tunnel which was visible to all the fans. I truly believe he is narcissist and just like a typical narcissist he believes he's never at fault for anything.

[mystargtr34]

Not only did he rev up the crowd for the flagrant 2 in game 1 but he rubbed it in at the end of the game when the Warriors won with his celebrations in the tunnel which was visible to all the fans. I truly believe he is narcissist and just like a typical narcissist he believes he's never at fault for anything.

Yeah there’s a few screws loose in his head. People put his stupid antics down to ‘competitive instincts’ and being a ‘winner’. Nah, you can be a strong competitor and not act like a narcissist and be an instigator. I was hoping for a broken nose tbh and him being out for the game.

[Texas_Ranger]

I never thought the Warriors were that special. Klay doesnt really look that great and will probably never be his old self. Their defense is also pretty bad and they have no one that can guard Morant. Even Payton couldnt really guard him, so if he's out i dont see it as a big advantage for Memphis. Memphis was also the hottest team going into the playoffs, and that was without Morant, while Warriors were pretty bad the last 2 months of the season. Anyway, Memphis in 6.

[exstatic]

one amazing game doesn't change the fact that he's basically a skinny russ with handles :lmao
And that they were 21-4 without him this year.

[Mr. Body]

I never thought the Warriors were that special. Klay doesnt really look that great and will probably never be his old self. Their defense is also pretty bad and they have no one that can guard Morant. Even Payton couldnt really guard him, so if he's out i dont see it as a big advantage for Memphis. Memphis was also the hottest team going into the playoffs, and that was without Morant, while Warriors were pretty bad the last 2 months of the season. Anyway, Memphis in 6.

I think they'll get past Memphis. They will struggle against Phoenix. Any good team with a strong big will rip them up. The decline of Thompson is significant so far and they no longer have top tier role players.

[SAGirl]

Morant having to drop 47 in order to win this ain't a good thing.
You are changing the subject Body…

[SAGirl]

I never thought the Warriors were that special. Klay doesnt really look that great and will probably never be his old self. Their defense is also pretty bad and they have no one that can guard Morant. Even Payton couldnt really guard him, so if he's out i dont see it as a big advantage for Memphis. Memphis was also the hottest team going into the playoffs, and that was without Morant, while Warriors were pretty bad the last 2 months of the season. Anyway, Memphis in 6.

I said this before the series started, but when polled the media was 20-0 in favor of the GSW… Not even one of the media members voted that Memphis would win the series. They had no credibility and I think the media underestimated the difficulty that the Timberwolves represented for them. They were a bad matchup. Their players are bigger than the warriors, they were truly hot, going off from 3 in some games in spectacular fashion, Ant Edwards is very talented, and KAT, even with all his immaturity and faults was a bad matchup that got JJJ and their entire big men rotation in foul trouble, and was bombing 3s. Its not to say the Timberwolves are a better team than GSW, but they were a very bad matchup for Memphis.

Yet Memphis dominated GSW in the regular season and back in the play in and the longer they meet up, the less intimidated Memphis looks. I still think GSW is going to punch back, and are due to have a ridiculous shooting game, but this is a difficult series for them, and they won game 1 by only one point. The media was also overreacting to that like it was a demoralizing blowout. It wasn’t.

But I wont say this series will be easy for Memphis to win either. They are a young team, Dillon Brooks needs to rein himself in, Jaren is very inconsistent. Bane’s back is hurt and he has not looked like himself for the series, but they have 3 days rest. Hopefully that’s enough for him to recover bc I do think Dillon is getting suspended.

[SAGirl]

Melton with a few huge D plays:
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Curry flopping on the last play in that video… falling when no one touched him. :spin

[Neo.]

Well here it is, folks,,,,neo got facts shoved up his ass and now he's trapped in a corner so he results to personal insults,,,,:lmao

:lmao "facts"

never knew that the opinion that "ja is the #1 guy to build a team around" is suddenly a fact


And that they were 21-4 without him this year.

here is a nice fact though :toast

[rjv]

Ja wouldn't even be in my top five players to build a team around.

[TD 21]

Ja wouldn't even be in my top five players to build a team around.

Depends on the criteria. If it's everyone in the pool (post/late prime, prime, pre prime), no. If you cut out just post/late prime, maybe. If cut out prime too, yes.

[Leetonidas]

Beverley talking shit about how Ja didn't put up 47 against them :lol

Kinda makes them look worse tbh. didn't even need to score that much to beat the Timberpups

[Texas_Ranger]

Ja wouldn't even be in my top five players to build a team around.

i have a big feeling hes gonna get injured and become Derrick Rose.

hope i am wrong, cause he is fun to watch.

[SAGirl]

Beverley talking shit about how Ja didn't put up 47 against them :lol

Kinda makes them look worse tbh. didn't even need to score that much to beat the Timberpups
Timberpups doubled and trapped Morant regularly. GSW doesn’t want to double. Pups also had longer defenders on him and more than one guy. Meanwhile, GSW has liabilities that can’t guard him in their lineup. They stick Wiggins on him and refuse to double, but teammates set screens for him and GSW doesn’t double. Watch the schemes. No wonder Bane was open a lot more (bc of doubles), and at times Pups dared others to make shots, which with a roster in foul trouble and most roleplayers struggling with their shot worked for them sometimes. GSW defense is different. They don’t want to give shots to others and don’t double… it’s an oversimplification but the teams had different strategies.

[Leetonidas]

Timberpups doubled and trapped Morant regularly. GSW doesn’t want to double. Pups also had longer defenders on him and more than one guy. Meanwhile, GSW has liabilities that can’t guard him in their lineup. They stick Wiggins on him and refuse to double, but teammates set screens for him and GSW doesn’t double. Watch the schemes. No wonder Bane was open a lot more (bc of doubles), and at times Pups dared others to make shots, which with a roster in foul trouble and most roleplayers struggling with their shot worked for them sometimes. GSW defense is different. They don’t want to give shots to others and don’t double… it’s an oversimplification but the teams had different strategies.
Well yeah, they doubled and tripled him leading them to get destroyed by Desmond Bane and the rest of their role players. If it takes 47 from Morant to beat you by a couple points in Memphis, you're probably doing something right. Beverley being a clown here when his team focused on Ja but got raped by Bane instead :lol

[SAGirl]

Some stats on GSW.
1521988833771880448 (https://twitter.com/jackfrank_jjf/status/1521988833771880448?s=21&t=0oZ-gGKtxXDmUL-DTIGSbg)

[SAGirl]

Philadelphia looks hopeless. Boring series. Harden is washed and Miami is solid but it’s difficult to judge them in comparison to other teams when they faced a bad Atlanta team, and Philly without their MVP. No doubt they are a solid team, but they just haven’t really been tested.

[MultiTroll]

Some stats on GSW.
Which media fluffer gave them the term *Death Lineup* anyways.

ABC/Disney/Lakers-Warriors Inc?

[GAustex]

I cannot see how anyone would wish to be on Harden’s team

[Mr. Body]

Some stats on GSW.
1521988833771880448 (https://twitter.com/jackfrank_jjf/status/1521988833771880448?s=21&t=0oZ-gGKtxXDmUL-DTIGSbg)

The moments I've watched, Green has been a big problem. He can knock heads and win some possessions, but not consistently, and Poole is still a negative defender. On offense, playing with Draymond Green is playing with four players.

[SAGirl]

The Pelicans looked better against the Suns than the Mavs. I think the Pelicans have a good team developing and will be better next season. With the Jazz possibly falling apart there will be upward mobility. Makes me think of whether the Spurs will be better next season or no.

Also, interesting point here:
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[Mr. Body]

The Pelicans looked better against the Suns than the Mavs. I think the Pelicans have a good team developing and will be better next season. With the Jazz possibly falling apart there will be upward mobility. Makes me think of whether the Spurs will be better next season or no.

Mavs are just how brilliant Doncic is. The rest of the roster is kind of shit, with Brunson and Dinwhiddie having good moments but not able to carry the team. Phoenix is wellcoached and seasoned and there's no comparison other than Luka.

[NASpurs]

What a joke of a game :lol

[SAGirl]

Luka always gives Dallas a chance.

[SAGirl]

I don’t care for the Suns at all.Wouldn’t mind Luka and crew having the game if their lives here.

[MultiTroll]

Dallas benchies did very well 1st half.

[SAGirl]

I feel like maybe the Mavs could use Jakob. They don’t have any rim protection.

[Mr. Body]

NBA is so inconsistent. Crowder says something to league pretty boy and he gets a T. Warriors jawing in the face of multiple Memphis players last night, nothing.

[heyheymymy]

Luka has the worst body language

[Leetonidas]

Luka man :wow dude is so fucking good

[SAGirl]

NBA is so inconsistent. Crowder says something to league pretty boy and he gets a T. Warriors jawing in the face of multiple Memphis players last night, nothing.
Absolutely.

[daslicer]

NBA is so inconsistent. Crowder says something to league pretty boy and he gets a T. Warriors jawing in the face of multiple Memphis players last night, nothing.

I have come to accept it now that their is blatant favoritisms for certain teams and players in this league. Warriors definitely benefit from that favoritism.

[SAGirl]

1522053748691902464 (https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1522053748691902464?s=21&t=WP9F3dUUIO2raPWcbSGIsA)
It doesn’t surprise me, Doncic was sonning the Kawhi/George Clippers practically by himself.

[Neo.]

good god dwight powell is so horrible tonight

[SAGirl]

Let’s see how even the league callls elbows to the face here

[SAGirl]

It’s a flagrant

[Robz4000]

:lol Giannis did the same thing to Williams last night and they called it a regular foul

[Mr. Body]

NBA has to end this review everything and any contact with the face is a Flagrant 1 thing. It's awful. You can't just stick your face into a guy as a defender and get two shots and the ball. Fucking ridiculous.

[SAGirl]

I do see the reason for the rule. Concussions are a real life problem and even with this rule in place you have situations like Embiid who had an orbital fracture. Don’t know the answer but you have to be consistent at least however you call it.

[SAGirl]

Doncic flopping and chucking now.

[SAGirl]

What a dumb dumb foul by McGee but it was b4 the 3

Edit: the 3 counts.

[Mr. Body]

Doncic jawing with a fan. What a little bitch.

[SAGirl]

This game is over. As talented as Doncic is, he doesn’t have Morants mental toughness in the 4th Q. That’s been the most impressive thing about Ja this playoffs. He’s at his best in the 4th.

Suns have been dominant. I don’t like Paul but he’s on a mission.— Until his hamstring acts up I suppose.

[Neo.]

This game is over. As talented as Doncic is, he doesn’t have Morants mental toughness in the 4th Q. That’s been the most impressive thing about Ja this playoffs. He’s at his best in the 4th.

Suns have been dominant. I don’t like Paul but he’s on a mission.— Until his hamstring acts up I suppose.

:lmao it literally has nothing to do with his mental toughness

it's the fact he's been forced by cuban to play with a JV college team

[Mr. Body]

Doncic has positive defensive stats and I don't see how. He's awful on defense.

[Mr. Body]

Mavs cleared the bench with more than 4:00 to go? Do they realize it's the playoffs?

[Ice009]

:lmao it literally has nothing to do with his mental toughness

it's the fact he's been forced by cuban to play with a JV college team

I'm going to have to see what his mental toughness in the 4th is like if he has a better team around him. You can't expect him to do it all with the crappy/average team he has around him now. You'll just fatigue in the 4th.

[Neo.]

I'm going to have to see what his mental toughness in the 4th is like if he has a better team around him. You can't expect him to do it all with the crappy/average team he has around him now. You'll just fatigue in the 4th.

or just get tripled every time he heads to the paint

it's ridiculous how often he passes out of a trap in the paint only for no one to be able to make something out of a scrambling, out of position defense

[Neo.]

Mavs cleared the bench with more than 4:00 to go? Do they realize it's the playoffs?

no one is coming back from that massive of a deficit that late in this stage of the playoffs. that's just stupid and begging for more injuries, which they've already been on the bad end of.

[SAGirl]

I don’t trade Ja for Doncic tbh. jar’s leadership and mental toughness is great, stuff that makes eventual league MVP and HOF and I do think he’ll be an NBA champion. Doncic is talented. Better shooter, smarter, a ###### player, doesn’t need to be explosive but he’s not mentally tough and hasn’t been a good leader.

[Mr. Body]

no one is coming back from that massive of a deficit that late in this stage of the playoffs. that's just stupid and begging for more injuries, which they've already been on the bad end of.

It's the fucking playoffs. You don't pull starters at 4:30 because of possible injuries. There's still a chance for a run. How pathetic. It even sends a message to your team and the other team that you're begging for mercy and have no fight.

[Barfunk]

I knew it wasn't just me but Chuck just mentioned on TNT that Doncic indeed hogs the fucking ball way too much, or dominates the ball as he put it. The Mavs were actually playing better without him. Brunson with two straight subpar games. It's almost as if Luka is just trying to get his stats while also tanking the games to get out of of Dallas. Luka is a superstar, but he seems like a little selfish diva who would rather be on a team like the Lakers.

[Barfunk]

But who knows, maybe the Mavs blowout the Suns the next 2 games at home.

[Mr. Body]

Man, looking at the Mav's salaries. Brutal.

[Neo.]

It's the fucking playoffs. You don't pull starters at 4:30 because of possible injuries. There's still a chance for a run. How pathetic. It even sends a message to your team and the other team that you're begging for mercy and have no fight.

lol it doesn't mean any of that except to people who want to invent or believe in made-up narratives and read into things that don't exist

I personally would have given them one more minute to see if something happened, but it wasn't nearly as big of a deal as you are making it out to be

[Neo.]

I don’t trade Ja for Doncic tbh. jar’s leadership and mental toughness is great, stuff that makes eventual league MVP and HOF and I do think he’ll be an NBA champion. Doncic is talented. Better shooter, smarter, a ###### player, doesn’t need to be explosive but he’s not mentally tough and hasn’t been a good leader.

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Neo.]

But who knows, maybe the Mavs blowout the Suns the next 2 games at home.

hard to see that happening when the #2 option is a slow midget and the center is undersized and soft as charmin

[timtonymanu]

lol it doesn't mean any of that except to people who want to invent or believe in made-up narratives and read into things that don't exist

I personally would have given them one more minute to see if something happened, but it wasn't nearly as big of a deal as you are making it out to be

It's also ironic coming from our fanbase when Popovich is the most conservative coach in the NBA when it comes to minutes, including playoff blowouts.

[Mr. Body]

It's also ironic coming from our fanbase when Popovich is the most conservative coach in the NBA when it comes to minutes, including playoff blowouts.

It was only a 21 point lead with nearly five minutes to go. No self respecting coach gives up at that point. How fucking bizarre to defend this garbage. You see if you can get some stops, make some baskets. You could cut ten points in two minutes easily. If it doesn't work, fine, but at least make Phoenix fight for it.

I don't understand giving up on your players like that, saying you don't believe in them.

[Ice009]

I don’t trade Ja for Doncic tbh. jar’s leadership and mental toughness is great, stuff that makes eventual league MVP and HOF and I do think he’ll be an NBA champion. Doncic is talented. Better shooter, smarter, a ###### player, doesn’t need to be explosive but he’s not mentally tough and hasn’t been a good leader.

I just can't get an accurate read on whether or not Donic is tough in the clutch. I think we really do need to see him with some better teammates to truly be able to see how he does with the games on the line in the playoffs. His playoff numbers are phenomenal, and there is a questions on whether or not he hogs the ball too much (I remember thinking this myself in the series against the Clippers a couple of years ago), but the point is, he's never had a really good team around him. Does he hog the ball because he's overly selfish out for his own numbers, or does it do it because he doesn't trust his teammates, or does he do it out of necessity? I don't know the reason, but I think he does do it.

Ja is looking good/great (I hope he keeps it up and they beat the Warriors), but IMO he definitely does have better teammates around him which would take some of the pressure off him. Right now, ALL the pressure and load is on Luka. That's gotta fatigue you by the time the 4th quarter rolls around.


lol it doesn't mean any of that except to people who want to invent or believe in made-up narratives and read into things that don't exist

I personally would have given them one more minute to see if something happened, but it wasn't nearly as big of a deal as you are making it out to be

I've seen big comebacks before, maybe not a lot of them at the end of the 4th quarter of a playoff game, but I've seen teams erase 20 point deficits at the start of the 3rd quarter/end of the 3rd/start of the 4th etc., so yeah, I wouldn't have pulled the plug that early. I would have at least given them half the time remaining. You really shouldn't throw away a playoff game until it's too far out of reach time/score wise.

[SAGirl]

I knew it wasn't just me but Chuck just mentioned on TNT that Doncic indeed hogs the fucking ball way too much, or dominates the ball as he put it. The Mavs were actually playing better without him. Brunson with two straight subpar games. It's almost as if Luka is just trying to get his stats while also tanking the games to get out of of Dallas. Luka is a superstar, but he seems like a little selfish diva who would rather be on a team like the Lakers.
I get the same impression. The only thing I am not sure of is that he’s doing it on purpose to get out of Dallas. It might just be his game. He will either grow out of it and develop as a leader or indeed want to form the next superfriends team in a big market like you say.

I don’t watch the Mavs regularly, so I don’t know. I may be overreacting, but his leadership and intangibles aren’t good. The Mavs put together a good team (not a great one, but good for a young player) for him coming into the league, while generally top lotto picks get drafted into very bad situations with a lot of youngsters in the roster, in a position to continue being bad, like Detroit and Orlando for example.

He proceeded to start quarreling with Porzinguis, Carlisle and only made it out of the first round this time because he was injured 3 games and the team played better without him! His intangibles aren’t good. It’s a small sample and I may be wrong, but the impression isn’t good.

[SAGirl]

Argument can be made that you switch Ja and Doncic from teams and the Grizzlies look like scrubs tbh. Think about it.

[Dex]

The moments I've watched, Green has been a big problem. He can knock heads and win some possessions, but not consistently, and Poole is still a negative defender. On offense, playing with Draymond Green is playing with four players.

That is why I hate it when people compare Draymond to Boris Diaw. Yes, Green is a good passer for his size and position, but Diaw was better AND Bobo was actually an offensive threat himself. He could post up, he could get to the rim and finish, and he could shoot all the way out to the three point line.

Draymond basically just stands at the elbow and tries to play quarterback, and if he does get baited into shooting a three then that's basically a win for the defense.

[exstatic]

It's the fucking playoffs. You don't pull starters at 4:30 because of possible injuries. There's still a chance for a run. How pathetic. It even sends a message to your team and the other team that you're begging for mercy and have no fight.

Joel Embiid. It’s not conceptual.

[XDT76]

Some stats on GSW.
1521988833771880448 (https://twitter.com/jackfrank_jjf/status/1521988833771880448?s=21&t=0oZ-gGKtxXDmUL-DTIGSbg)

Not surprising with Thompson a shell of himself, there is no decent defender in the line-up

[JamStone]

Luka has a certain way of playing, and he also has trust issues. I think it’s fair to criticize him to a point where he should modify his game a little going forward. But the criticism on Luka should go only so far. If certain guys play like shit, first and foremost, it’s on them, not Luka, not their other teammates, not their coaches. First and foremost. On the totem pole of blame, playing like shit starts with that player.

Can Luka relinquish a little more of the ball handling responsibility, decision making in halfcourt sets? Yes. And he should a little bit. LeBron had to learn that as well. And he was able to modify his game when he had teammates he had more trust and confidence in. One thing Luka probably should do is stop walking the ball up the court. By the time they initiate a halfcourt set, half the shot clock has wound down already. Get into sets earlier, let the ball move, so when it gets back to Luka it’s not 3 seconds left, but maybe 8-10 seconds left on the shot clock. Luka does tend to over dribble early in halfcourt sets. And their offense would become much smoother and much more diversified if they start actions earlier and don’t over dribble so much. Now that you can put a lot on Jason Kidd.

I think Luka has to look at the careers of LeBron and Chris Paul and how they evolved from extreme ball dominance to finding a balance when to dominate the ball while also keeping teammates involved. Jokic has already mastered it for the most part. Those three guys have a great blueprint offensively on how to find that balance.

[CGD]

NBA should split up the game combinations. BOS/MIL and GSW/MEM on the same night is super compelling, but the other night is dog shit.

[Neo.]

I get the same impression. The only thing I am not sure of is that he’s doing it on purpose to get out of Dallas. It might just be his game. He will either grow out of it and develop as a leader or indeed want to form the next superfriends team in a big market like you say.

I don’t watch the Mavs regularly, so I don’t know. I may be overreacting, but his leadership and intangibles aren’t good. The Mavs put together a good team (not a great one, but good for a young player) for him coming into the league, while generally top lotto picks get drafted into very bad situations with a lot of youngsters in the roster, in a position to continue being bad, like Detroit and Orlando for example.

He proceeded to start quarreling with Porzinguis, Carlisle and only made it out of the first round this time because he was injured 3 games and the team played better without him! His intangibles aren’t good. It’s a small sample and I may be wrong, but the impression isn’t good.

yes you obviously don't watch them because almost everything you are saying couldn't be further from the truth. people who watch them regularly know what's really been going on there.

and if you are going to say stupid stuff like "the Mavs were better without Luka in small sample sizes durhrhrhrhr" but then proceed to talk about how great ja is compared to Luka, you might wanna look at the grizz record without ja compared to the Mavs record without Luka

[Neo.]

Luka has a certain way of playing, and he also has trust issues. I think it’s fair to criticize him to a point where he should modify his game a little going forward. But the criticism on Luka should go only so far. If certain guys play like shit, first and foremost, it’s on them, not Luka, not their other teammates, not their coaches. First and foremost. On the totem pole of blame, playing like shit starts with that player.

Can Luka relinquish a little more of the ball handling responsibility, decision making in halfcourt sets? Yes. And he should a little bit. LeBron had to learn that as well. And he was able to modify his game when he had teammates he had more trust and confidence in. One thing Luka probably should do is stop walking the ball up the court. By the time they initiate a halfcourt set, half the shot clock has wound down already. Get into sets earlier, let the ball move, so when it gets back to Luka it’s not 3 seconds left, but maybe 8-10 seconds left on the shot clock. Luka does tend to over dribble early in halfcourt sets. And their offense would become much smoother and much more diversified if they start actions earlier and don’t over dribble so much. Now that you can put a lot on Jason Kidd.

I think Luka has to look at the careers of LeBron and Chris Paul and how they evolved from extreme ball dominance to finding a balance when to dominate the ball while also keeping teammates involved. Jokic has already mastered it for the most part. Those three guys have a great blueprint offensively on how to find that balance.

yep pretty much all this, along with losing 15-20 lbs of fat will help cover basically all of Lukas weaknesses

[Pero]

Argument can be made that you switch Ja and Doncic from teams and the Grizzlies look like scrubs tbh. Think about it.

Uh, the Grizzlies without Morant looked like the best team in the NBA... The Mavs without Luka might be a lottery team.

[SAGirl]

Luka has a certain way of playing, and he also has trust issues. I think it’s fair to criticize him to a point where he should modify his game a little going forward. But the criticism on Luka should go only so far. If certain guys play like shit, first and foremost, it’s on them, not Luka, not their other teammates, not their coaches. First and foremost. On the totem pole of blame, playing like shit starts with that player.

Can Luka relinquish a little more of the ball handling responsibility, decision making in halfcourt sets? Yes. And he should a little bit. LeBron had to learn that as well. And he was able to modify his game when he had teammates he had more trust and confidence in. One thing Luka probably should do is stop walking the ball up the court. By the time they initiate a halfcourt set, half the shot clock has wound down already. Get into sets earlier, let the ball move, so when it gets back to Luka it’s not 3 seconds left, but maybe 8-10 seconds left on the shot clock. Luka does tend to over dribble early in halfcourt sets. And their offense would become much smoother and much more diversified if they start actions earlier and don’t over dribble so much. Now that you can put a lot on Jason Kidd.

I think Luka has to look at the careers of LeBron and Chris Paul and how they evolved from extreme ball dominance to finding a balance when to dominate the ball while also keeping teammates involved. Jokic has already mastered it for the most part. Those three guys have a great blueprint offensively on how to find that balance.
Someone pointed out in another forum that all that walking the ball and standing straight up on D is bad conditioning and that by the 4th he’s simply gassed. That may very well be the case. In that case the only way to raise his game further in the playoffs is to commit to a rigorous training. I don’t know if he wasn’t motivated b4, but it’s on him to improve the 4th Q meltdown.

[SAGirl]

Uh, the Grizzlies without Morant looked like the best team in the NBA... The Mavs without Luka might be a lottery team.
Talking playoffs here.

[SAGirl]

yes you obviously don't watch them because almost everything you are saying couldn't be further from the truth. people who watch them regularly know what's really been going on there.

and if you are going to say stupid stuff like "the Mavs were better without Luka in small sample sizes durhrhrhrhr" but then proceed to talk about how great ja is compared to Luka, you might wanna look at the grizz record without ja compared to the Mavs record without Luka
Am talking playoffs. Regular season is not what this thread is about. I already stated I don’t watch them regularly so it’s an impression of his playoff performance.

[Leetonidas]

:lol the Grizzlies supporting cast is miles better than the Mavs. If Luka was in place of Morant, the Grizzlies would be a title favorite this year. Bane/JJJ are better than any player on the Mavs roster outside of Luka. Probably Melton and Brooks too

[SAGirl]

See that’s how leaders elevate rosters. Dillon has been dogshit these playoffs. Team didn’t need him to win the one game they won against GSW. Melitón was missing the entire first round, JJJ completely unreliable, in foul trouble the majority of all games in the first round etc, and is not a consistent player, unless you count fouling.. etc. tbh How has Luka raised anyones game. Instead his fans blaming teammates for his meltdowns.

[Leetonidas]

You're blaming Luka for his team bricking wide open jumpers when he's getting doubled/tripled? :lol

You don't make any sense...you're talking about Ja "raising" players games yet somehow his team has the best winning percentage ever with him out of the lineup for 1/4 of the season but Luka drags a team full of scrubs to the 2nd round with his best running mate being either Spencer dinwiddie of midget Brunson and you expect him to make them into all-stars somehow?

You said you dont really watch Mavs games so not sure how you can claim that Luka doesnt "elevate" rosters. Was Tim not elevating the Spurs in 2001 or 2002 when we got thrashed by the Lakers? or was the team around him so poor that he couldnt win by himself?

[Neo.]

Am talking playoffs. Regular season is not what this thread is about. I already stated I don’t watch them regularly so it’s an impression of his playoff performance.

:lmao so do supporting casts suddenly change when the playoffs begin? it was a clear indicator that memphis has a fantastic supporting cast, while dallas has a bunch of bench quality players forced into starting roles and getting 20+ mil contracts because cuban is a moron who doesnt realize he doesnt know jack about basketball

[Neo.]

:lol the Grizzlies supporting cast is miles better than the Mavs. If Luka was in place of Morant, the Grizzlies would be a title favorite this year. Bane/JJJ are better than any player on the Mavs roster outside of Luka. Probably Melton and Brooks too

its ridiculous how badly cuban has screwed situations up. if you replace ja or trae with luka (two guys constantly compared to him as being the best up-and-coming player to build around), both of those teams have great supporting casts that would make them title favorites. while cuban builds a roster around a transcendent player that people question if they can even beat a team that has imploded and hates each others guts.

[baseline bum]

Philadelphia looks hopeless. Boring series. Harden is washed and Miami is solid but it’s difficult to judge them in comparison to other teams when they faced a bad Atlanta team, and Philly without their MVP. No doubt they are a solid team, but they just haven’t really been tested.

Funniest thing is the Sixers are going to have to throw a four or five year max deal at Harden because WTF are their other options now? Punt two seasons of Embiid's prime to have capspace in the summer of 24? :lol

[Mr. Body]

Joel Embiid. It’s not conceptual.

Yeah, glass jaw Embiid and that team was UP by 30 points. How is that hard for you to understand? You've got seven games to try to win four. Being captain prissy-pants when the game isn't over is absurd. You might as well just give up the fourth quarter to avoid injury. This loser attitude will bleed over into the next games. How ridiculous.

[SAGirl]

Baseline Bum: About Philly - They are in a bad situation but I wouldn't throw a five year max at Harden. He's on pace to be a Russ Westbrook level bad of contract the way he's going. Hopefully he takes less, so that he could be easier to trade in the future... but they asked for him and they got him... it's their funeral.

[tonight...you]

Funniest thing is the Sixers are going to have to throw a four or five year max deal at Harden because WTF are their other options now? Punt two seasons of Embiid's prime to have capspace in the summer of 24? :lol
Nightmare.

[Mr. Body]

The Porzingis trade really killed the Mavs. Not only that huge salary, but they got Hardaway Jr. on his hideous salary and then resigned him anyway, maybe because his erratic ass was the only other talent they had.

They managed to break the KP salary into two chunks of Dinwiddie and Bertans, but those contracts are pretty hideous, too. At least one can be moved eventually and Dinwiddie is sort of a good scorer at times. Bertans is basically junk.

And their draft history... my God. Jalen Brunson was a good pick, but otherwise it's been nothing. (And they gave up two picks to get Porzingis.) They're not able to find much value outside their draft picks, either, and then they overpay for the guys they have.

[SAGirl]

You're blaming Luka for his team bricking wide open jumpers when he's getting doubled/tripled? :lol

You don't make any sense...you're talking about Ja "raising" players games yet somehow his team has the best winning percentage ever with him out of the lineup for 1/4 of the season but Luka drags a team full of scrubs to the 2nd round with his best running mate being either Spencer dinwiddie of midget Brunson and you expect him to make them into all-stars somehow?

You said you dont really watch Mavs games so not sure how you can claim that Luka doesnt "elevate" rosters. Was Tim not elevating the Spurs in 2001 or 2002 when we got thrashed by the Lakers? or was the team around him so poor that he couldnt win by himself?
I am talking about the playoffs, I specified that so we could avoid a whole bunch of regular season stats and shit, when we know there are regular season stars that aren't cut for the playoffs, Derozan being the biggest and worst of them. I am leaving regular season discussion aside. In the regular season you can get away with a lot, like Pop playing his team without the big 3 and still being competitive and winning a few games sometimes. He did it to develop the roster, smart strategy. Sometimes players get injured in the regular season too, and you play who you have available. But there are many bad teams in the regular season, there are other teams that would be good, but you face them when there are injuries. There is a whole lot of context for why you can win some games in the regular season with less than your full roster, but you need your best guys in the playoffs.

I already made the main points. The Grizzlies are not some juggernaut team. They are well coached and balanced, enough to defeat the dregs of the regular season without Ja most of the time. In the playoffs? No. Not so much. Ive said that before, Ja raises their ceiling. But in terms of comparison, Ja doesn't have a costar and this is not like the Suns or GSW who are both on another level of experience and in the case of the Suns specially, talent. I am talking about 2 young teams with 2 young stars. One is elevating his game in the 4th Q when the team needs him, the other isn't.

Listen, I want both to win, I don't care for the Suns or the GSW. Both Ja and Luka are underdogs in this race. Grizzlies may very well lose from here on out, because their team is made up of a bunch of youngsters that are not reliable from game to game. But Grizzlies have made come backs in the majority of the games they have played and have won ugly games bc they hustle and in the 4th Q, Ja shows up. Maybe he saves a bunch of his energy for the 4th when they need him, and Luka is out of shape and gassed by the 4th, could be as easy as that, but regardless of the ultimate outcome, I don't see Luka being effective when the team really needs him which is the 4th. That is really the time for stars. Are we going to start blaming teammates for stars not showing up in the 4th of playoff games?

[exstatic]

Funniest thing is the Sixers are going to have to throw a four or five year max deal at Harden because WTF are their other options now? Punt two seasons of Embiid's prime to have capspace in the summer of 24? :lol

And this happened because they were WRONG about Simmons. He’s got back surgery scheduled to snip off the bulging part of one disc. Three to four month recovery period. Plenty of time to figure out how to spend that $20M he’s going to win from Philly in his lawsuit to recoup withheld pay.

Daryl Morey just needs to move to Fiji, or something. He’s a complete fuckup at managing an NBA franchise.

[R. DeMurre]

I like Brunson, but he's just the wrong guy to put next to Doncic. Doncic is a 6'7" ball dominant PG for most sets and that gives the Mavs a great potential size advantage. Put a 6'5"-6'6" SG next to him, and you've got a huge back court that's incredibly difficult to defend. Think the Bulls with Jordan and Ron Harper. But if you pair Doncic with the 6'1" Brunson, you're just back to a regular sized duo, and you've neutralized your own advantage.

[baseline bum]

Baseline Bum: About Philly - They are in a bad situation but I wouldn't throw a five year max at Harden. He's on pace to be a Russ Westbrook level bad of contract the way he's going. Hopefully he takes less, so that he could be easier to trade in the future... but they asked for him and they got him... it's their funeral.

I can't see it. He has enormous leverage over the Sixers who are all in on winning right now while Embiid is in his prime. Nothing in Harden's entire career would convince me he'd ever take much of a paycut. He's one of the most me-first players we have ever seen. Best I could see Harden doing is signing a deal starting around $44 million for next season to get the Sixers committed salary just below the luxury tax. But I don't know the CBA well enough to know if they just have to get below the tax before offering, or if they have to be below the tax after offering the MLE to be able to use the full non-taxpayer MLE. If it's the latter there is literally no reason that could convince Harden to take a paycut.

[Chris Fall]

Shit James is only 32. I thought he was on the wrong side of 35. Yeah, Harden's going to want the years too. Shit, I'd let him walk and hand the keys to Maxey.

[ZeusWillJudge]

The Porzingis trade really killed the Mavs. Not only that huge salary, but they got Hardaway Jr. on his hideous salary and then resigned him anyway, maybe because his erratic ass was the only other talent they had.

They managed to break the KP salary into two chunks of Dinwiddie and Bertans, but those contracts are pretty hideous, too. At least one can be moved eventually and Dinwiddie is sort of a good scorer at times. Bertans is basically junk.

And their draft history... my God. Jalen Brunson was a good pick, but otherwise it's been nothing. (And they gave up two picks to get Porzingis.) They're not able to find much value outside their draft picks, either, and then they overpay for the guys they have.


Mark Cuban can't resist playing fantasy basketball with real players. He's the Jerry Jones of basketball. And they're both in Dallas.

[rjv]

brunson's value just dropped a bit after last night's performance. was it an aberration or a revelation?

essentially, even kidd called out brunson last night. i think brunson plays better in dallas but this is very reminiscient of 2013 danny green who earned the nickname of icy hot because of his inconsistency, but at least danny offered solid defense.

[MultiTroll]

I like Brunson, but he's just the wrong guy to put next to Doncic. Doncic is a 6'7" ball dominant PG for most sets and that gives the Mavs a great potential size advantage. Put a 6'5"-6'6" SG next to him, and you've got a huge back court that's incredibly difficult to defend. Think the Bulls with Jordan and Ron Harper. But if you pair Doncic with the 6'1" Brunson, you're just back to a regular sized duo, and you've neutralized your own advantage.
Brunsons defense. Another part that makes the pairing with Doncic bad. Too easy to shoot over.
Even CP0 had no problems launching.

[baseline bum]

Shit James is only 32. I thought he was on the wrong side of 35. Yeah, Harden's going to want the years too. Shit, I'd let him walk and hand the keys to Maxey.

The Tobias Harris contract keeps them from being able to sign any kind of replacement whatsoever for Harden. It's Harden or nothing.

[SAGirl]

The Tobias Harris contract keeps them from being able to sign any kind of replacement whatsoever for Harden. It's Harden or nothing.
Tobias is massively overpaid, but he's at least still good at what he was only good for. He's not washed. He's just a tall offensive shooting guard it looks like at times. Harden is not good at what he used to be good at anymore. He offers them playmaking but honestly, it makes me wonder if they wouldn't have been better off signing Oladipo or some lesser guard that is around and available.

Had Morey been smart he should have thrown the kitchen sink in at Pop and traded for DJ Murray. It's a bit of hindsight because Dejounte improved massively, but if you watched the Spurs you knew he was being held back by playing next to Derozan. He would have potentially been a monster playing with Embiid, and is young, same age group and in his prime. Too bad Morey. He was asking teams for 4 1st round picks when Simmons originally wanted to get traded, before he refused to play.

In hindsight as well, I would not take Simmons for the Spurs unless they really threw a package together with him that they weren't going to throw. I feel bad for Embiid in this kind of situation with a horrible FO and bad coach (cue TD 21 and his fixation with Doc Rivers tbh).

[JPB]

I am talking about the playoffs, I specified that so we could avoid a whole bunch of regular season stats and shit, when we know there are regular season stars that aren't cut for the playoffs, Derozan being the biggest and worst of them. I am leaving regular season discussion aside. In the regular season you can get away with a lot, like Pop playing his team without the big 3 and still being competitive and winning a few games sometimes. He did it to develop the roster, smart strategy. Sometimes players get injured in the regular season too, and you play who you have available. But there are many bad teams in the regular season, there are other teams that would be good, but you face them when there are injuries. There is a whole lot of context for why you can win some games in the regular season with less than your full roster, but you need your best guys in the playoffs.

I already made the main points. The Grizzlies are not some juggernaut team. They are well coached and balanced, enough to defeat the dregs of the regular season without Ja most of the time. In the playoffs? No. Not so much. Ive said that before, Ja raises their ceiling. But in terms of comparison, Ja doesn't have a costar and this is not like the Suns or GSW who are both on another level of experience and in the case of the Suns specially, talent. I am talking about 2 young teams with 2 young stars. One is elevating his game in the 4th Q when the team needs him, the other isn't.

Listen, I want both to win, I don't care for the Suns or the GSW. Both Ja and Luka are underdogs in this race. Grizzlies may very well lose from here on out, because their team is made up of a bunch of youngsters that are not reliable from game to game. But Grizzlies have made come backs in the majority of the games they have played and have won ugly games bc they hustle and in the 4th Q, Ja shows up. Maybe he saves a bunch of his energy for the 4th when they need him, and Luka is out of shape and gassed by the 4th, could be as easy as that, but regardless of the ultimate outcome, I don't see Luka being effective when the team really needs him which is the 4th. That is really the time for stars. Are we going to start blaming teammates for stars not showing up in the 4th of playoff games?

He still have time to prove doubters wrong but from what we've seen so far and during the Olympics, Luka seems to have problems to deliver during big games. In the semi vs. France he had a pretty bad shooting game but with Slovenia down 1 and the last possession for the win, and while everyone (and basically every slovenian on Earth) was expecting him to take that last shot, he didn't even tried to create something but just threw the hot potato to the next teammate around, who was probalby as surprised as anyone, and just went on being blocked by Batum... with Doncic going crazy on the refs for absolutly no other reason than trying to blame someone else for his letdown.

[Chris Fall]

Lol Memphis wasn't just beating the leagues bottom feeders without Ja. They beat Phoenix with both CP3 and Book playing. They beat Milwaukee with Freak and Middleton by 25. They beat Miami at Miami. The beat Philly without Embiid by 35. They beat Brooklyn with KD and Kyrie fighting for the playoffs. All without Ja. It wasn't just the "dregs"?? of the league.

Memphis without Ja really did look like the best team in the league. Regular season or not, all those good teams they beat without Ja were playing for something, with maybe Phoenix the exception.

[HemisfairArena]

Sorry guys got their ages wrong,,,,its the greek freak that is almost 28.

[KobesAchilles]

Sorry guys got their ages wrong,,,,its the greek freak that is almost 28.
I was about to say they are basically the same age :lol

[SAGirl]

Lol Memphis wasn't just beating the leagues bottom feeders without Ja. They beat Phoenix with both CP3 and Book playing. They beat Milwaukee with Freak and Middleton by 25. They beat Miami at Miami. The beat Philly without Embiid by 35. They beat Brooklyn with KD and Kyrie fighting for the playoffs. All without Ja. It wasn't just the "dregs"?? of the league.

Memphis without Ja really did look like the best team in the league. Regular season or not, all those good teams they beat without Ja were playing for something, with maybe Phoenix the exception.
I think the difference here between the two team's supporting cast is defensively. I didn't watch the other games, but I watched the Brooklyn game and it was evident that Brooklyn wasn't a good team. They have two talented scorers that like to iso and don't get others involved, they settle for a lot of tough shots that they can make, but don't create advantages for the team and more importantly, they also didn't get any contributions from anyone else in that game. The team lacked energy players and good defenders. It was a game that exposed Brooklyn as a pretender more than anything. Philly without Embiid is bad, you are seeing it right now. Miami honestly is a team difficult to judge. They haven't really been tested in the playoffs this season yet. They defeated Atlanta, which was possibly the worst playoff team, and now are beating a helpless Philly. How would they have fared against the pesky and surprising Pelicans though? I don't know because we didn't see it. They look good so far, but they have had it easy in the playoffs.

I will say this, the Grizzlies definitely have an edge defensively over the Mavs roster and that is probably the difference maker in games decided by a thin edge. Tyus Jones is also very good, not a star or anything, and I doubt he'd help Dallas more than some guys Dallas has playing the G position, but he's added a 3 and is just the kind of guy to keep them afloat paying at the pace they want and moving the ball to get their other guys their shots in the regular season. Just a good solid backup. He may have played his way into a starting role somewhere this summer even. But he's a roleplayer, the Grizzlies would struggle to score under good defensive pressure if he's your main PG for the playoffs and you don't have a true scoring star.

I don't expect Dallas to win, but Luka is their leader and I wanted to see a more competitive game in the 4th Q.

[SAGirl]

Well the league is suspending Dillon Brooks for one game. Wow. If only things were called even right? I hope from now on, both teams heed the warning to avoid reckless defensive plays, including GSW... one would hope.

Dillon was playing very poorly offensively, but I feel he was (is) due for a good offensive game. He's not an efficient offensive player, but he's also not as bad as his number are for the postseason. He's due to get better... but not next game.

Desmond Bane has had a sore back and hasn't been himself against GSW. The next game will be tough.

I'd expect more Ziaire, Melton and Tyus Jones.

[rjv]

i've got no problem with the brooks suspension. the evidence is clear, these kind of reckless plays often result in serious injuries. had payton not actually broken his elbow, perhaps brooks wouldn't have been suspended.

[Mr. Body]

Brooks was suspended because Kerr got his undies up his ass. That wasn't anything but a bad foul, except Payton happened to fall weird. That's it. Whining when you're a Warrior works.

[Mr. Body]

Meanwhile, how does the NBA fuck up with not having any games last Saturday and no games tonight? How do you fuck that up?

[rjv]

Meanwhile, how does the NBA fuck up with not having any games last Saturday and no games tonight? How do you fuck that up?

yeah-it's no bueno. they should have scattered the games. i'm not sure if the NFL draft had something to do with the scheduling this year.

[TD 21]

I feel bad for Embiid in this kind of situation with a horrible FO and bad coach (cue TD 21 and his fixation with Doc Rivers tbh).

:lmao At this coming from the biggest hypocrite and arguably homer on the board, while she fan girls it up with the Grizzlies at every turn.

Congratulations, you've just proven you either lack basic reading comprehension or your bizarre hatred of me (look in the mirror before playing holier than thou) has clouded it in this case.

My contention is about injustice in Rivers' case, clearly in large part due to him being a double whammy: old and black. So he gets nitpicked to death and every young and white guy not coaching a bad team is made out to be some genius.

I could care less about him or any of these people and don't buy into the agenda driven media narratives about who's supposedly a good/bad coach. That's for sheep like you to lap up.

[exstatic]

Meanwhile, how does the NBA fuck up with not having any games last Saturday and no games tonight? How do you fuck that up?

There are only games every night thru the first round. With half the teams, and travel days, there just isn’t every day coverage available.

[exstatic]

Brooks was suspended because Kerr got his undies up his ass. That wasn't anything but a bad foul, except Payton happened to fall weird. That's it. Whining when you're a Warrior works.

Brooks was suspended because he swung and connected to the head and neck.

[SAGirl]

Brooks was suspended because Kerr got his undies up his ass. That wasn't anything but a bad foul, except Payton happened to fall weird. That's it. Whining when you're a Warrior works.
I agree with this. Kerr pressured the league publicly and unfortunately the guy got hurt. Meanwhile, in other series, CP3 knocked out Alvarado's teeth and didn't even get called for so much as an offensive foul and Embiid had his face literally broken and instead got called for the foul.

I already hate the bad fouling in the playoffs no matter who it is, and I'd be just as happy if the league called things even, going back to the those times when Donkey was kicking people in the nuts and Zaza was sliding under opposing stars feet... We don't need to go that far. In the same game that Donkey grabbed Clarke in mid air and pulled him down by his jersey, he was taunting the crowd and other players and then saying in a podcast that he wouldn't stop playing defense the way he plays it. Showing no remorse whatsoever or apology.

Taylor Jenkins obviously is not Kerr, he's more from Pop's school and won't say anything. I actually sometimes have a big glimmer of hope that the Grizzlies would be able to take care of GSW bc they are just that fearless but they have the deck of cards stacked against them and the high they are riding from their last game is going to come crashing next game. I suspect they'll get a possible beatdown with GSW making up their bad shooting % so far in one night and a demoralizing loss. It's just one game and move on to the next one.

I also saw online a photo that Adams is back from H & safety protocol (the COVID thing). He and Donkey have a long history in the playoffs, but the Grizzlies have struggled to score with him in the lineup... so honestly I don't know how to take it. Hoping he'll be good and can give them a jolt at least rebounding or something.

[baseline bum]

Tobias is massively overpaid, but he's at least still good at what he was only good for. He's not washed. He's just a tall offensive shooting guard it looks like at times. Harden is not good at what he used to be good at anymore. He offers them playmaking but honestly, it makes me wonder if they wouldn't have been better off signing Oladipo or some lesser guard that is around and available.

Had Morey been smart he should have thrown the kitchen sink in at Pop and traded for DJ Murray. It's a bit of hindsight because Dejounte improved massively, but if you watched the Spurs you knew he was being held back by playing next to Derozan. He would have potentially been a monster playing with Embiid, and is young, same age group and in his prime. Too bad Morey. He was asking teams for 4 1st round picks when Simmons originally wanted to get traded, before he refused to play.

In hindsight as well, I would not take Simmons for the Spurs unless they really threw a package together with him that they weren't going to throw. I feel bad for Embiid in this kind of situation with a horrible FO and bad coach (cue TD 21 and his fixation with Doc Rivers tbh).

Problem is, if they let Harden walk all they have is the MLE to replace him. Which might not be enough to get Oladipo. Harden really has Morey over a table here.

[gambit1990]

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[Texas_Ranger]

Why cant Luka make his team of low picks and undrafted players better and beat the best team in the nba?

Bullock 25th
Brunson - 33rd
Dinwiddie - 38th
Bertans - 42nd
Powell - 45th
Kleber - undrafted
DFS - undrafted

Like i said before, Dallas has done nothing to make the team better the past 3 years and Cuban is retarded with thinking these bunch of role players are any good. His next mistake will be giving that midget Brunson a giant contract.
Doncic does hae to come to the next season in better shape, but, Dallas also better get rid of most of this roster, cause this aint gonna win them shit.

[CGD]

Why cant Luka make his team of low picks and undrafted players better and beat the best team in the nba?

Bullock 25th
Brunson - 33rd
Dinwiddie - 38th
Bertans - 42nd
Powell - 45th
Kleber - undrafted
DFS - undrafted

Like i said before, Dallas has done nothing to make the team better the past 3 years and Cuban is retarded with thinking these bunch of role players are any good. His next mistake will be giving that midget Brunson a giant contract.
Doncic does hae to come to the next season in better shape, but, Dallas also better get rid of most of this roster, cause this aint gonna win them shit.

Wow, I hadn’t appreciated this. Brutal. They also whiffed on Dennis Smith, a lotto pick, badly.

[daslicer]

I agree with this. Kerr pressured the league publicly and unfortunately the guy got hurt. Meanwhile, in other series, CP3 knocked out Alvarado's teeth and didn't even get called for so much as an offensive foul and Embiid had his face literally broken and instead got called for the foul.

I already hate the bad fouling in the playoffs no matter who it is, and I'd be just as happy if the league called things even, going back to the those times when Donkey was kicking people in the nuts and Zaza was sliding under opposing stars feet... We don't need to go that far. In the same game that Donkey grabbed Clarke in mid air and pulled him down by his jersey, he was taunting the crowd and other players and then saying in a podcast that he wouldn't stop playing defense the way he plays it. Showing no remorse whatsoever or apology.

Taylor Jenkins obviously is not Kerr, he's more from Pop's school and won't say anything. I actually sometimes have a big glimmer of hope that the Grizzlies would be able to take care of GSW bc they are just that fearless but they have the deck of cards stacked against them and the high they are riding from their last game is going to come crashing next game. I suspect they'll get a possible beatdown with GSW making up their bad shooting % so far in one night and a demoralizing loss. It's just one game and move on to the next one.

I also saw online a photo that Adams is back from H & safety protocol (the COVID thing). He and Donkey have a long history in the playoffs, but the Grizzlies have struggled to score with him in the lineup... so honestly I don't know how to take it. Hoping he'll be good and can give them a jolt at least rebounding or something.

The Grizzlies failed like Spurs did when it comes to controlling the narrative in the media and allowed the Warriors to shape the narrative. Spurs made the mistake when Pop didn't call out Zaza immediately after the dirty play on Kawhi. Granted even if the league suspended Zaza it still wouldn't have helped the Spurs but Pop ended up looking foolish a few days later after he originally said the foul by Zaza wasn't dirty. By then the Warriors had already set the media narrative that it was an accident and the media ate it all up.

Grizzlies needed to fire back immediately at Kerr when he started pushing the narrative "Brooks broke the code." They should have called the Warriors out on their hypocrisy about Draymond and Zaza in the past along with claiming what Brooks did was an accident. The media is stupid you can sway them if you put out an argument immediately, but the Grizzlies didn't do this and the media ended up pressuring the NBA to suspend Brooks.

Brooks could still have gotten suspended, but the Grizzlies did not fight at all to prevent it which was pathetic. Ultimately the media is the jury when it comes to punishments. The NBA will cave to them 9 out of 10 times. It's why Draymond has gotten away with so much shit. I still remember Stephen A and these clowns slurping him and screaming he shouldn't get suspended when he kicked Steven Adams in the nuts back in the '16 playoffs. and the league ended up not suspending him.

[Brazil]

The amount of SAGirl bad takes in this thread is alarming.. dear god..

[SAGirl]

The amount of SAGirl bad takes in this thread is alarming.. dear god..
Welcome back friend. How have you been?

I occasionally have my moments like everyone.:king

[SAGirl]

I remember watching this in real time and thinking WTF? But of course there wasn’t a replay.

I think CP3 is getting an excessive favorable whistle which makes me not care for him, but at the same time it almost guarantees this is the year he finally wins that championship, unless his hamstring acts up at the most inopportune time. And he’s been very careful only pushing the gas on the 4th. I am basically prepared for the eventuality that this is the Suns year. It can’t be ignored that this is what Dallas is up against.

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[Neo.]

The amount of SAGirl bad takes in this thread is alarming.. dear god..

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Neo.]

Welcome back friend. How have you been?

I occasionally have my moments like everyone.:king

not moments. you simply don't know crap about basketball :rollin

[Spurs Homer]

​Greens foul was no different than brooks foul

is green getting suspended?


…and didnt i say the warriors would be gifted one or two games?

[heyheymymy]

kinda feels like the league wants to ring cp3 on his way out.

[Mr. Body]

kinda feels like the league wants to ring cp3 on his way out.

State Farm promised to take their fucking atrocious ad campaigns off the air, so the NBA has to do it. For humanity.

[Brazil]

Welcome back friend. How have you been?

I occasionally have my moments like everyone.:king

:lol it happens to the best of us

[offset formation]

not moments. you simply don't know crap about basketball :rollin

Not a fair statement, tbh. Certainly don't agree with hers or everyone else's takes all the time but she's most definitely not ignorant about the game.

[Neo.]

Not a fair statement, tbh. Certainly don't agree with hers or everyone else's takes all the time but she's most definitely not ignorant about the game.

using superficial knowledge to speak on aspects of the game one does not understand is ignorant tbqhfwiwimhoiirc

[SAGirl]

Now you are just coming across as a baby tbh. Don’t normally respond to trolls, but I think you are legit hurt by the criticism to Doncic. You’ll get over it.
:bobo

[Neo.]

Now you are just coming across as a baby tbh. Don’t normally respond to trolls, but I think you are legit hurt by the criticism to Doncic. You’ll get over it.
:bobo

no, you legitimately just dont know jack about basketball. you should go back read how inconsistent your posts have been through this thread :lmao

i love luka however its pretty well documented here that ive been very quick to point out his flaws as well. but to say that ja is a better player in the clutch because of one game (while conveniently forgetting how badly he sucked in the clutch the game before) is completely retarded. to then blame luka for the mavs not being able to hang with the suns in the 2nd half is even more stupid when he is getting ran off the 3pt line by his defender, then immediately doubled and tripled as soon as he gets within 18 feet of the basket. the suns gameplan is pretty obvious, let luka do what he wants in the 1st half, wear him out by being physical, and dont let the other guys get into any rhythm, then completely blitz him in the 2nd half, force the teammates to win the game (which they obviously cant), and take advantage of him being tired by running him through relentless picks and have quick guards attack him (the only kinds of players he really cant defend). come 2nd half, the teammates HAVE to be able to exploit the defense. if they can't manage to hit wide open shots and attack late closeouts, its 100% their fault, not lukas, and its stupid to even remotely suggest otherwise.

there is still plenty of series left, things can change quickly. but so far, the suns gameplan has worked to perfection. the supporting cast has to step up, otherwise it doesnt matter how close the game is through 3 quarters, the 4th quarter will just continue to work in the suns favor because they are solely focused on eliminating luka's contributions at that point.

but sure, feel free to keep using some empty headed reasoning like "durhrhrhrh luka isnt doing good enough in the 4th, he should be able to score over 3 defenders if hes truly a superstar player, JA COULD PROBABLY DO IT, I MEAN HE IS DOING IT AGAINST WEAKER DEFENDERS IN ONE ON ONE SITUATIONS SO I BET HE COULD DO IT AGAINST THE TRAP HAPPY DEFENSES LUKA IS SEEING dhduhrhrurhrh"

[SAGirl]

^ I am wishing Doncic well. Hoping the games in Dallas are more competitive. I really wish the game was called fairly but after seeing what I have seen with the CP3 favoring I don’t expect it.

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Actually came here to share that there’s now a possibility that Embiid plays. Originally it seemed like a definitive no, but now there’s this:
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[SAGirl]

And yea, I am super high on Ja and think that his ability to take over a game in the 4th is something that becomes crucial in the playoffs and definitely stands out.It was impressive the last game for sure, but the Grizz have made come backs in the first round as well. He’s been putting numbers in the 4th Q that are eye opening.

In comparison to that Doncic has been underwhelming. But I haven’t taken into account the context that is the Suns. Luka definitely looks gassed by the 4th. Something will have to give. I’d really want to see some kind of adjustment to save him some for the 4th but I don’t know if Kidd is a coach that can make that kind of adjustment.

[SAGirl]

I have the Grizzlies scheduled for a loss next game btw. Combination of factors, Dillon not being available, GSW start double teaming Ja, like in this video below, and the fact GSW has been shooting subpar for their standards. I think they’ll have a hot shooting game like they are capable of, and the Grizz others wont show up on the road. Despite his flaws, Dillon can create off the dribble and he wont play. I also expect GSW will stay dialed in on Bane.

We shall see, but for me its a scheduled Grizz loss. Might even be a demoralizing blowout.

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[Ignazzz]

Traveling. Turnover but no call

[SAGirl]

Changing the subject again, there is a ton going on with several playoff teams, but the Embiid thing worries me.
Hes still listed as out, but apparently wants to play. I am scared for him that this will not end well.
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Its a different set of injuries from those I reference but give me that same bad feeling, Kawhi returning to play in the WCF in 2017 against GSW while nursing an injury and getting Zaza’d, and Durant also returning from injury in the Finals in 2019 and then rupturing his Achilles. It just gives me a bad feeling. As much as Id like to see him play I hope his coach is wise about this.

Edit: the Embiid thing is generating a lot of comments from the media.
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[Brazil]

^ well for once a player is putting his mans pants in POs instead of chickening out...

I understand not taking risks for a young dude playing for a team with no chance at winning but Embiid is 28 y/o, Harden is close to be finished. They have a shot at a LOB (even if it is a slim one) that maybe will never present itself again in their career, that's the moment to go for it

[SAGirl]

The big pelotas on Jimmy Butler. Have always liked him, even though hes got a controversial personality. If Joel returns that series will be very interesting. They used to be teammates too. Hindsight is 20/20 but they should have kept Jimmy and shipped out Ben back then….
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[SAGirl]

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[R. DeMurre]

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That's a pretty incredible thing for a coach to say about his star player. I was wondering last year if Giannis had considered joining Dallas as a free agent and forming a Euro super team, but I suppose it's good for the rest of the league that he didn't.

[PhantomDashCam]

I remember watching this in real time and thinking WTF? But of course there wasn’t a replay.


:lol I remember watching this sequence and thinking the same thing. I remember Chris Paul feeling for his hamstring (you see it briefly in the clip) and I couldn’t help but wonder if anyone has injured themselves more on flopping than CP3…

[SAGirl]

That's a pretty incredible thing for a coach to say about his star player. I was wondering last year if Giannis had considered joining Dallas as a free agent and forming a Euro super team, but I suppose it's good for the rest of the league that he didn't.
Giannis has been very successful in Milwaukee. I honestly never thought he was leaving, and wasn’t surprised by him signing his extension.

I was shocked initially by Kidd statement too, but then I saw a clip of Luka himself saying after game 2 that he had to play better defense specifically, so I see it as a kind of challenge that the player already welcomes. No one can handle CP3 in the 4th Q and him getting biased foul calls has been the most disappointing thing this playoffs for me. The one thing I think coach Kidd can do, is scheme to put more burden on others earlier in the game, so that Luka is fresher for the 4th Q. With them playing at home, there is hope the others, Brunson included will be better.

[SAGirl]

:lol I remember watching this sequence and thinking the same thing. I remember Chris Paul feeling for his hamstring (you see it briefly in the clip) and I couldn’t help but wonder if anyone has injured themselves more on flopping than CP3…
I mention it every time I say the Suns look like the champions this year.. part of it is CP3 is getting a favorable whistle that no one else is getting, I mean on rip through moves, breaking Alvarado teeth, this one I clipped. Its too biased in his favor. At this point, only CP3 and his hamstring derail him.

[rjv]

giannis was never going anywhere. his post-title comments last year said it all. my favorite non-spur, without a doubt.

[PhantomDashCam]

I mention it every time I say the Suns look like the champions this year.. part of it is CP3 is getting a favorable whistle that no one else is getting, I mean on rip through moves, breaking Alvarado teeth, this one I clipped. Its too biased in his favor. At this point, only CP3 and his hamstring derail him.

He’s the kind of player you’d love to tell kids/students of the game to watch based on the pure basketball related plays.

The issue is though that seemingly every second game (or every single one when in Playoffs mode), he has this contemptuous/a-hole level code of conduct and you’d rather just show them old Ginobili footage instead.

I still thinks Suns are going to struggle against Milwaukee or Boston if either make it out of the East.

[Neo.]

Why cant Luka make his team of low picks and undrafted players better and beat the best team in the nba?

Bullock 25th
Brunson - 33rd
Dinwiddie - 38th
Bertans - 42nd
Powell - 45th
Kleber - undrafted
DFS - undrafted

Like i said before, Dallas has done nothing to make the team better the past 3 years and Cuban is retarded with thinking these bunch of role players are any good. His next mistake will be giving that midget Brunson a giant contract.
Doncic does hae to come to the next season in better shape, but, Dallas also better get rid of most of this roster, cause this aint gonna win them shit.

they literally have to give brunson a big contract at this point, because if he walks, the extra cap "space" means nothing since they are so far over the cap. they literally wouldnt be able to sign anyone else anyways.

nico is going to have to swing some major trades at this point. but tbh its not an impossible situation, bc the mavs were basically in the same boat in 03-04, but were able to turn lousy massive contracts into Jason Terry, Jerry Stackhouse, Erick Dampier, Keith Van Horn and Devin Harris. there are always teams out there looking for either specific talents (shooters, scoring guards), or expiring contracts. im confident he will be able to build a good enough roster in time.

the real question is whether they can find any more good value in the draft. that will be the difference between a ceiling during lukas tenure of getting 0-2 championships, or 3+

[Texas_Ranger]

they literally have to give brunson a big contract at this point, because if he walks, the extra cap "space" means nothing since they are so far over the cap. they literally wouldnt be able to sign anyone else anyways.

nico is going to have to swing some major trades at this point. but tbh its not an impossible situation, bc the mavs were basically in the same boat in 03-04, but were able to turn lousy massive contracts into Jason Terry, Jerry Stackhouse, Erick Dampier, Keith Van Horn and Devin Harris. there are always teams out there looking for either specific talents (shooters, scoring guards), or expiring contracts. im confident he will be able to build a good enough roster in time.

the real question is whether they can find any more good value in the draft. that will be the difference between a ceiling during lukas tenure of getting 0-2 championships, or 3+

they need to sign and trade Brunson and package Hardaway in the trade or in another trade. Getting rid of Bertans will be almost impossible, so they are fucked with that.

[Neo.]

they need to sign and trade Brunson and package Hardaway in the trade or in another trade. Getting rid of Bertans will be almost impossible, so they are fucked with that.

idk i think some team desperate for a shooting big will come calling for bertans. might not net much, but shooters always get overpaid and always draw attention from teams

[KingKev]

idk i think some team desperate for a shooting big will come calling for bertans. might not net much, but shooters always get overpaid and always draw attention from teams

Tim Hardaway JR and Dinwiddie are bad contracts but at least THJ’s is declining. Bertans contract is terrible though. Mavs will have a tough time adding talent around Luka next few years.

[Texas_Ranger]

Tim Hardaway JR and Dinwiddie are bad contracts but at least THJ’s is declining. Bertans contract is terrible though. Mavs will have a tough time adding talent around Luka next few years.

a solid big like Myles Turner or Capela would already be a huge help. All i know is that if i am them, I am not paying Brunson. There is no way id have that guy as the #2 guy on a serious team.

[rjv]

per woj, embiid will play limited minutes tonight.

[SAGirl]

For you stat buffs in this thread, this article on Bane is really interesting. It makes me feel a lot more positive about Adams returning to the lineup bc of his screens to free up Bane.
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[KingKev]

a solid big like Myles Turner or Capela would already be a huge help. All i know is that if i am them, I am not paying Brunson. There is no way id have that guy as the #2 guy on a serious team.

They are over the cap and in desperate need to improve the roster so there is no way they are letting him walk for nothing.

[RC_Drunkford]

CP3 ain't getting injured that easily no more since he turned vegan. That's really the main secret to his recent success

[SAGirl]

Embiid so good. He changes Philly so much for the better. This game is really good. Glad to see Kyle Lowry back too.

[SAGirl]

CP3 ain't getting injured that easily no more since he turned vegan. That's really the main secret to his recent success
For real? I have to look this up.

Edit: you are right. That’s really interesting.

[heyheymymy]

CP3 ain't getting injured that easily no more since he turned vegan. That's really the main secret to his recent success


Makes total sense for an athlete just from an inflammation standpoint alone not to mention nutrition. I didn't know cp3 went vegan. I'm seeing some game changing stuff going veggie, shit is next level for sure, heads up check it out

[SAGirl]

Wow as soon as Embiid gors to the bench Philadelphia melts down and gets run over.

[CGD]

CP3 ain't getting injured that easily no more since he turned vegan. That's really the main secret to his recent success

Wasnt he out from allstar game to about end of season with broken hand or something?

[SAGirl]

Wow as soon as Embiid gors to the bench Philadelphia melts down and gets run over.
Luckily Harden showed up soon after. The minutes without him or Embiid were ugly, have to say.

This is why I couldn’t really judge Miami. They hadn’t really faced a good team in the playoffs b4 this.

[Strategic]

Danny Green doing his part to keep the Heat in the game.

[SAGirl]

Retro Danny Green game 6/7 on 3.

[The Truth #6]

Harden needs to go vegan then. Seriously.