General playoff thread

[Dex]

ECF seem to ne staged tbh

Gives me vibes of the 2005 Finals against Detroit. 4 straight blowouts to start...it seemed lopsided one way or the other.

Then Game 5 happened (thanks Horry) and suddenly it was a real dog fight.

I think Celtics and Heat are actually very evenly matched and it sucks injuries have played so much of a part but...I wouldn't be surprised to see this go to 7.

[daslicer]

I was fine with the Warriors until Durant ruined the league for 4 years by running to a 73 win team because of some accidental spike in the salary cap that one season. Hard not to hate them after that.

I hated them after '15. A combination of a few things. The whole entire team took Draymond's persona after the '15 title and his clownish antics. The rest of the league copied their style and in return and it made the game boring to a large extent which killed diversity of styles resulting in 3- point spamming everywhere. Kerr is a bitch in the Phil Jackson mode. They also got special treatment from the refs on both ends of the court. Durant joining them exacerbated my disdain for them.

[ducks]

I root against GS Warriors because of Kerr.
He bashes his own country and says nothing about China when it comes to human rights.

[MultiTroll]

Golden Phaggots even getting beat by 15 at halftime are a joke to watch.
Stephie Curry given how many phantom FTs. Regina Miller on the broadcast so you won't hear a peep out of her.

Curry limping slightly. Not sure if his Midol is not covering his cramps or what, but this could be a story unless it's minor.
Regina picked up on the limp.

Wish someone would hard foul him. :lol

[Mr. Body]

It's a pride game. Everyone knew Dallas would win this one. But it is yet another boring blowout in the 2022 playoffs.

[MultiTroll]

Prime opportunity to lay Curry out with his prancing layup with 45 seconds left.

Oh well.

[gambit1990]

dallas gonna win game 5. then game 6 is back at home...

[SAGirl]

1529449010108551168

[daslicer]

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I wonder where their owner gets the money to spend on luxury tax. Only reason I wonder is Mark Cuban used to be a big spender until luxury tax and his net worth is greater than Lacob's net worth.

[exstatic]

I wonder where their owner gets the money to spend on luxury tax. Only reason I wonder is Mark Cuban used to be a big spender until luxury tax and his net worth is greater than Lacob's net worth.

Cuban was a meddler, only has one championship to show, and broke up the team immediately afterwards. Lacob has 3 ch'ips, and understands that his best role is writing checks. Maybe he just wants it more than Coban, or understands that you HAVE to ride a contender into the ground.

[daslicer]

Cuban was a meddler, only has one championship to show, and broke up the team immediately afterwards. Lacob has 3 ch'ips, and understands that his best role is writing checks. Maybe he just wants it more than Coban, or understands that you HAVE to ride a contender into the ground.

That's kind of a deflection answer to be honest. Majority of owners are scared of luxury tax and these owners are owners who have more money than Lacob. I just find it interesting he's not scared of luxury tax despite not being as rich as other owners. Maybe your right he just wants it so badly but something tells me he probably has some sophisticated accounting system in play to minimize his expenses or he's doing some other shady things to be able to deal with the luxury tax.

[Leetonidas]

I root against GS Warriors because of Kerr.
He bashes his own country and says nothing about China when it comes to human rights.

We don't live in China you moron. Why do you care more about innocent lives in China than innocent children in America? You're probably the biggest idiot on ST and that's truly saying somethin

[rjv]

a lot has been made about the frequency of blowouts in these playoffs but one has to wonder if there is something intrinsic about the current game that lends itself to more potential blowouts. for instance, the lack of post up play and overreliance on the three point shot. if such a trend continues, the NBA would be dealing with the consequences of focusing on offense so intensely over the past decade. ironically, in an effort to be less boring the NBA may have made it just as boring even if the scores are much higher now. i mean, what's more intriguing? a 125-105 blowout or a 89-87 down to the wire finish?

[exstatic]

That's kind of a deflection answer to be honest. Majority of owners are scared of luxury tax and these owners are owners who have more money than Lacob. I just find it interesting he's not scared of luxury tax despite not being as rich as other owners. Maybe your right he just wants it so badly but something tells me he probably has some sophisticated accounting system in play to minimize his expenses or he's doing some other shady things to be able to deal with the luxury tax.

You expect all of the owners to react alike? It's also a canard to think that people with MORE money spend more. The richest .000001% tend to sit on their money, big time. Pop is an counter example. He doesn't even have as much money as the Holts, who would be considered poverty owners by league standards, yet he picks up tabs all the time, tips multiple times the amount of the actual check, helps people in the organization, donates time and $$ to the food bank. If you shook the billionaire tree to see who spends, gives, and donates a proportional amount of their wealth, probably only Gates and Buffet would fall out. Super wealthy people tend to be cheap as fuck, and terrible tippers, because they see money as the end, not the means to an end.

One would also be more motivated to pay the tax if one is winning championships. Maybe Lacob thinks more like Pop in that money isn't the end, it's the means to an end. Enjoy life and how things are going. People acknowledge that 'you can't take it with you', but they rarely act like they believe it.

[pad300]

WRT to GS and the lux tax, I recall an analysis done 3 or 4 years back, and it came down to if GS fills the lux boxes at their new stadium, they make money despite nearly any amount of tax. At that point, Lacob is willing to spend to put a product on the floor to fill those boxes; he's still making a profit and gets to go for championships...

[gambit1990]

a lot has been made about the frequency of blowouts in these playoffs but one has to wonder if there is something intrinsic about the current game that lends itself to more potential blowouts. for instance, the lack of post up play and overreliance on the three point shot. if such a trend continues, the NBA would be dealing with the consequences of focusing on offense so intensely over the past decade. ironically, in an effort to be less boring the NBA may have made it just as boring even if the scores are much higher now. i mean, what's more intriguing? a 125-105 blowout or a 89-87 down to the wire finish?
yeah, i mentioned early in the second round how wild these swings are... and it hasn't changed.

[Mr. Body]

I wouldn't be surprised if Silver doesn't make Lacob pay the Luxury Tax.

[Spurs Homer]

I wonder where their owner gets the money to spend on luxury tax. Only reason I wonder is Mark Cuban used to be a big spender until luxury tax and his net worth is greater than Lacob's net worth.

TV CONTRACT

all nba franchises split the billions from the networks

[XDT76]

4 mins into 2Q for MIA vs BOS and a scoring of 17 vs 21 either both teams have great D or sucks on O. Wow, White is top scorer for BOS.

[Mr. Body]

It's evident White does a lot for the Celtics even as an inefficient scorer.

[CGD]

Dude when did Jalen Brown forget how to dribble??

[Strategic]

Dude when did Jalen Brown forget how to dribble??once I thought Brown would turn out better than Tatum. Tells you of my ability to spot talent. He’s so damn inconsistent

[CGD]

once I thought Brown would turn out better than Tatum. Tells you of my ability to spot talent. He’s so damn inconsistent

In fairness, Tatum can be frustratingly inconsistent too. But I think Tatum will take an even bigger leap next year with this deep run, not sure we’ll say the same for Brown

[CGD]

Can we just skip to Game 1 of BOS-GSW already? These conference finals have been atrocious.

[GAustex]

Brown and Tatum is a good problem to have

[Mr. Body]

What happens to all the hats they throw onto the ice in hockey?

[gilmor2002]

We don't live in China you moron. Why do you care more about innocent lives in China than innocent children in America? You're probably the biggest idiot on ST and that's truly saying somethin

That was known for a generation..

[Mr. Body]

Problem is offense built on spamming threes leads to blowouts, then also the NBA is not very good right now. It's very flat, with no great teams, just okay ones. The top four teams in these playoffs would get destroyed in most any other era.

[spurs1990]

Derrick White playing like his Spurs days with that drive and spin followed by a steal and block

[MultiTroll]

Oh look, another NBA game with a 20 point swing in one quarter.

They just don't make players like they used to.
https://cdn1-www-forums.sherdog.com/data/avatars/l/501/501127.jpg?1474206007

[MultiTroll]

Can we just skip to Game 1 of BOS-GSW already? These conference finals have been atrocious.
Should a Mavs historic 4-3 comeback be dismissed?

[Mr. Body]

The hockey has been way fucking better and I hate hockey.

[Robz4000]

White being huge even while completely forgetting how to shoot :tu

[mystargtr34]

Derrick white is like Jrue Holiday lite

[Dex]

What happens to all the hats they throw onto the ice in hockey?

They sew them all together and make a really big hat.

[Seventyniner]

They sew them all together and make a really big hat.

That's quite the trick.

[Spurs Homer]

Should a Mavs historic 4-3 comeback be dismissed?


they would not allow this to happen…
they would put their game face on
roll up their sleeves and get to work
they would put on a show of fierce determination

strap on their whistles and prevent this from happening!

[ace3g]

Mavs finally woke up in 3rd quarter.

[Spurs Homer]

Luka got hacked the entire game and hardly got any calls

Then on the other end- touch foul after touch foul

just disgusting how obvious it is to non-warrior fans

[MultiTroll]

Luka got hacked the entire game and hardly got any calls

Then on the other end- touch foul after touch foul

just disgusting how obvious it is to non-warrior fans
Glad i avoided.

[daslicer]

Luka got hacked the entire game and hardly got any calls

Then on the other end- touch foul after touch foul

just disgusting how obvious it is to non-warrior fans

I don't know why you still watch them play. I didn't watch this game but I could have predicted ahead of time the Warriors would get favorable officiating on both ends of the court.

I'm definitely not watching the Finals unless Celtic-Heat are on the verge of eliminating the Warriors.

[MultiTroll]

So we're down to Boston or Heat to overcome MVP WarriorRef and the gang.

Eeesh.

[gambit1990]

c'mon boston, we know you beat the warriors. go ime!

[daslicer]

So we're down to Boston or Heat to overcome MVP WarriorRef and the gang.

Eeesh.

It doesn't look to promising. I'm too the point if the Celtics win it all I'll buy a Tatum jersey or if the Heat win I'll buy a Butler jersey. In '04 I bought a Sheed jersey when he took out the Lakers.

[gambit1990]

heat can't beat the warriors. the celtics will though :tu

[Ice009]

Man, this sucks that the Warriors are in. I assume they will have homecourt advantage in the finals too? I hope that doesn't swing it in their favour. I really don't want these guys getting close to the Spurs in rings. They sort of half did it the right way, but then they went out and got Durant and then they managed to play a lot of teams injured or not at optimal strength, so they weren't tested as much as they could have been. I don't want to see them get anymore cheap rings.

[Dex]

Just give the damn thing to the Warriors and let's move up the draft.

Everyone knows a banged up Celtics or Heat squad aren't beating the NBA darlings.

[Chomag]

I for one cannot stomach watching any warriors game. I'm all for showmanship and players being emotional and celebrating, but gawd damn the warriors dance around and flex on just about every play, not to mention them arguing with the refs every time there is a call made on them.

I really don't understand how they don't get techs as they get in the face and argue with the refs so much that it becomes completely disruptive.

Lakers have always been a hard to watch team but I put the warriors way ahead of them and it's not even close.

[rjv]

yeah, steph is obnoxious as hell. can't stand his ass. i still don't know how good they really are. they beat a depleted denver team, just got past an memphis team that lost morant and then beat a team in dallas that shouldn't have even been in the conference finals.

[Dex]

yeah, steph is obnoxious as hell. can't stand his ass. i still don't know how good they really are. they beat a depleted denver team, just got past an memphis team that lost morant and then beat a team in dallas that shouldn't have even been in the conference finals.

If healthy, I think Boston beats them.

The problem is, Boston isn't looking very healthy right now and the Dubs are.

Celtics needs to win tonight and get some time to rest.

EDIT: Just as I say this, Robert Williams III is reported questionable with knee soreness tonight

[mystargtr34]

Yeah if Celts close out tonight and have the 5 days of rest I think they have a good chance of beating the Warriors but it’ll be a close series imo.

[MultiTroll]

If we were to pool some money and get some gawd awful funny t-shirt to wear to the Golden Phaggots home game, anyone game?

Like a ref mounting Donkey, Stephie and Klanus. Of course we'd have to keep it R or even PG-13 to make the TV cameras.

Too shocking? Well okay but let's make it a zinger.
Any other ideas?

[mystargtr34]

Lmao Mark Jackson during that intro

[Strategic]

Damn Derrick White

[MannyIsGod]

Derrick is balling the fuck out. Reminds me of the den we series. Good for him.

[SpurPadre]

Anyone else rooting for Ime, White and the Boston Spurs?

[SpurPadre]

Derrick is balling the fuck out. Reminds me of the den we series. Good for him.

Well, the Derrick before Games 4-7 at least.

[Strategic]

In crunch time Smart misses shot, Brown misses 2 free throws, Tatum turns it over. Wow

[baseline bum]

Can't believe Brown choked those two FTs. All downhill from there for the Celtics.

[baseline bum]

Dangerous swipe from White on Butler

[gambit1990]

76ers would've won a ring by now if they kept butler.

[gambit1990]

things would be a lot different for the spurs if they had traded kawhi for him...

[spurs10]

Game 7 on the way. Going to be intense.

[Mr. Body]

things would be a lot different for the spurs if they had traded kawhi for him...

Why do people make shit up on what never was going to happen? Some jagg was claiming Phoenix or whoever was going to trade their pick in the Doncic draft for Kawhi.

[CGD]

Finally a good game in this series!! Derrick was awesome today, but too bad in a losing effort

[BatManu20]

Boston really wasted Derrick’s best game ever with them :lol

[BatManu20]

Either one of these teams is getting smoked by Golden State though. So this series is irrelevant imo.

[Mr. Body]

The game was won when Lowry fouled out. He was straight garbage for a while there.

[spursreport]

Either one of these teams is getting smoked by Golden State though. So this series is irrelevant imo.

Don’t tell that to Baseline Bum. He thinks these 3 remaining teams are 100% equal.

[Ice009]

things would be a lot different for the spurs if they had traded kawhi for him...

What if the Spurs drafted both Kawhi and Butler with the late first round pick like they should have? Maybe Kawhi would still be on the team right now.

[gambit1990]

What if the Spurs drafted both Kawhi and Butler with the late first round pick like they should have? Maybe Kawhi would still be on the team right now.
that would've literally been the next jordan / pippen.

[gambit1990]

Anyone else rooting for Ime, White and the Boston Spurs?
we all are.

[daslicer]

What if the Spurs drafted both Kawhi and Butler with the late first round pick like they should have? Maybe Kawhi would still be on the team right now.

Kawhi definitely would have stayed if the Spurs moved to LA. I don't understand why people can't accept he was never going to be a Spur forever regardless of the team they put around him. They could have had the dream team built around Kawhi and he would have still bolted to LA. Unless Uncle Dennis got poisoned and croaked there was no way he was ever going to stay in SA longterm.

[Ice009]

Well personally, I think he wanted a good running mate. When the Spurs didn't get him one (signing Mills and Gasol instead), I think that is what started his dissent. I could be wrong, I just don't think he was 100% on leaving. He may not have been thinking about it if the situation/team didn't collapse against GWS after he went down. Anything could have been going through his head, but since he keeps things to himself, we'll probably never know.

Also, since you mentioned his uncle, I am thinking Kawhi's stance would have been a bit more different had he not been guiding him. I really do wonder what percentage of a role his uncle had in him leaving. If you had to put a number on it, do you think it would still have been a higher than 50% chance he was out if his uncle wasn't there to influence him?

[CGD]

Either one of these teams is getting smoked by Golden State though. So this series is irrelevant imo.

I wouldn’t say “smoked.” Either of these teams are easily the best defense Warriors will face in playoffs, and Boston I particular lines up well with them on that end. But yeah, I just think Brown and Tatum would shit the bed under pressure, and Miami is too much of an hospital ward to keep up at this stage unfortunately.

[daslicer]

Well personally, I think he wanted a good running mate. When the Spurs didn't get him one (signing Mills and Gasol instead), I think that is what started his dissent. I could be wrong, I just don't think he was 100% on leaving. He may not have been thinking about it if the situation/team didn't collapse against GWS after he went down. Anything could have been going through his head, but since he keeps things to himself, we'll probably never know.

Also, since you mentioned his uncle, I am thinking Kawhi's stance would have been a bit more different had he not been guiding him. I really do wonder what percentage of a role his uncle had in him leaving. If you had to put a number on it, do you think it would still have been a higher than 50% chance he was out if his uncle wasn't there to influence him?

Are you forgetting Lamarcus. He was a 20-10 player. They had won 60 plus wins back-to-back years together. Your argument is flawed also because GSW that year curb stomped everybody. Lebron's Cavs that had Kyrie and Love could only get 1 win against them in the playoffs. Warriors only lost 1 game in that whole entire playoff run.

Now if you had said Pop not defending Kawhi originally when Zaza took him out planted the seeds for him to leave then you would have a good argument. I thought that was Pop's biggest mistake was at first saying Zaza didn't do anything dirty and then changing his mind a few days later. By then it was already too late and it didn't look like Pop had Kawhi's back originally. I'm sure Uncle Dennis planted the seeds in Kawhi's head to want to leave from that point.

If Uncle Dennis didn't exist I think there is a high chance Spurs would have kept Kawhi. I put it around 90 percent chance he stays.

[Ice009]

No, didn't forget LMA. I think Kawhi viewed himself as a Jordan type of player and wanted a Pippen.

I really do think that resigning Mills to that overpaid contract and Gasol didn't sit well. I'm not saying that is the total reason, or even close to it, but I do think the seeds of doubt started there for Kawhi (even if it was only like a 10% chance at that point), and his uncle probably took it way over to the other side. I agree about his uncle having that big of an influence. As for LMA, what am I basing that he wanted a wing, well, just take a look at the player he picked to play with in the Clippers (Paul George). I think Kawhi wanted a wing/guard as his running mate, not LMA. I completely forgot until just now, but I do recall someone saying that Kawhi wanted the Spurs to try and get Paul George before he was traded to OKC. Not sure how true that is, but if true, it reinforces what I thought about him wanting a wing/guard as his sort of version of Jordan/Pippen.

I still don't know why the Spurs passed up Jimmy Butler if he was the guy they wanted if they missed out on Kawhi. Doesn't make sense. They could have started Jimmy eventually and moved Danny to the bench as a super 3 & D player. Manu and him could have come in a kept the pressure up for 48 minutes. They could have easily found a backup PG for cheap if they really needed one instead of drafting Cojo IMO (thanks for game 6 2014 WCF, though, Corey).

[daslicer]

No, didn't forget LMA. I think Kawhi viewed himself as a Jordan type of player and wanted a Pippen.

I really do think that resigning Mills to that overpaid contract and Gasol didn't sit well. I'm not saying that is the total reason, or even close to it, but I do think the seeds of doubt started there for Kawhi (even if it was only like a 10% chance at that point), and his uncle probably took it way over to the other side. I agree about his uncle having that big of an influence. As for LMA, what am I basing that he wanted a wing, well, just take a look at the player he picked to play with in the Clippers (Paul George). I think Kawhi wanted a wing/guard as his running mate, not LMA. I completely forgot until just now, but I do recall someone saying that Kawhi wanted the Spurs to try and get Paul George before he was traded to OKC. Not sure how true that is, but if true, it reinforces what I thought about him wanting a wing/guard as his sort of version of Jordan/Pippen.

I still don't know why the Spurs passed up Jimmy Butler if he was the guy they wanted if they missed out on Kawhi. Doesn't make sense. They could have started Jimmy eventually and moved Danny to the bench as a super 3 & D player. Manu and him could have come in a kept the pressure up for 48 minutes. They could have easily found a backup PG for cheap if they really needed one instead of drafting Cojo IMO (thanks for game 6 2014 WCF, though, Corey).


Kawhi was going to leave regardless of whether the Spurs got him an all-star wing. His Uncle wanted LA and we need to accept it. If the Spurs had gotten PG that wouldn't have changed anything. All that would have happened is both of them would have left together to go to LA when they were free agents since that's where both truly wanted to be. In life you have to accept sometimes tragedy is inevitable and there is nothing you could have done to prevent it. The situation with Kawhi and the Spurs was tragic and it could not have been prevented unless someone put out a hit on Uncle Dennis pre-2017.

[MultiTroll]

Lebron's Cavs that had Kyrie and Love could only get 1 win against them in the playoffs. Warriors only lost 1 game in that whole entire playoff run.
Yes the Cavs *lost* Game 1.

https://youtu.be/zfpBxKjYLT8
Lebron was so pissed he broke a bone in his hand while slamming it in the locker room.
A smart move? Un no.
Justifiably pissed? 1000%.
60% after the self imposed hand break? Yes.

Warriors 2017 can eat shit imo.
Fully tainted *win.

[MultiTroll]

More 2017 WarriorRef

https://youtu.be/B36uBfSc0ak

The ABC Stern Jr Warrior annoucers. :lmao

[MultiTroll]

I thought that was Pop's biggest mistake was at first saying Zaza didn't do anything dirty and then changing his mind a few days later. By then it was already too late and it didn't look like Pop had Kawhi's back originally.
Compounding the late statement by saying he would never address the media about it again -ever.

W-h-y? To me it could and should have been a talking point for years to come.
Help expose the Warriors to as many mainsteamers as possible.
True, cultists and corrupt NBA wanted to bury the Zaza assault and continue with Warrior Worship ASAP.

Why the hell would Popped aid and abet that by never speaking of it again?
He might have thought it was some real ballsy drop the mic moment.
In retrospect not.at.all.

Ya i think it contributed to Kwa's leaving.

[daslicer]

Yes the Cavs *lost* Game 1.

https://youtu.be/zfpBxKjYLT8
Lebron was so pissed he broke a bone in his hand while slamming it in the locker room.
A smart move? Un no.
Justifiably pissed? 1000%.
60% after the self imposed hand break? Yes.

Warriors 2017 can eat shit imo.
Fully tainted *win.

That clip is not from 2017 game 1 of the Finals. It's 2018 NBA Finals game 1. Kyrie did not play on the 2018 Cavs team.

[daslicer]

Compounding the late statement by saying he would never address the media about it again -ever.

W-h-y? To me it could and should have been a talking point for years to come.
Help expose the Warriors to as many mainsteamers as possible.
True, cultists and corrupt NBA wanted to bury the Zaza assault and continue with Warrior Worship ASAP.

Why the hell would Popped aid and abet that by never speaking of it again?
He might have thought it was some real ballsy drop the mic moment.
In retrospect not.at.all.

Ya i think it contributed to Kwa's leaving.

Pop was not really into fighting with the NBA since he had his own personal goals of coaching Team USA. He knows making enemies with the NBA, media and Warriors was not a good look for his personal goal of being the coach of Team USA. Especially since he wanted to coach Durant, Curry, etc.

Pop just didn't really care about winning titles after Duncan left. It was really all about his personal glory. I think Duncan's retirement and his wife's death messed up his psyche in that regard. He just showed he had no competitive spirt when Kawhi got Zaza'd. If it was any other coach who had not won a title, he would have called out Zaza immediately knowing his job is on the line and plus he would be hungry to win. Pop lost the hunger a long time ago.

[MultiTroll]

Boston blows out to a big lead, hands Heat the keys to come back and the Heat fumble the last 2 minutes of 1st qtr.

Eeesh either one of these overcoming WarriorRef seems real iffy.

[Uriel]

Derrick :cry

[MultiTroll]

2nd qtr Boston again builds 15 point lead.
Chokes all but 6 of it away in last 2:30 of quarter.

Maybe drive it to the rack instead of hoisting 3 pointers when up 15.
:lol Todays NBA

On a Spurs note Fuzzhead White hit a couple uncontested treys b4 cooling off.

[Dex]

Celtics and Heat basically playing each other even right now.

That said, I think the Celtics actually have some defense to make things tough for GSW. I think Warriors would just roll over the Heat in 5.

The only chance for the Heat in the Finals would be Butler going Super Saiyan for 4 games, and I don't know if you can count on that.

[MultiTroll]

Heat had a nice comeback going, closed to 72-65.
Scott Foster with the blocking foul on Strus after Brown charges him.

Sheesus.

[GAustex]

A minute to go and it feels like Boston is choking it away

[ace3g]

Celtics....

[MultiTroll]

A minute to go and it feels like Boston is chocking it away
Stuning that Heat had ball down 2 with 20 seconds.

Mixed feelings about Butler going for the 3.
Would have liked to have just gone for the tie but he was wide open and had his feet under him.

[TimDunkem]

A lot of these guys are really dumb.

Jaylen and Smart taking shots when they can simply hold the ball and go to the Finals. Jimmy Butler taking a 3 standing on the tip of his toes with Al Horford in front of him...:lol

[Dex]

:lmao Jimmy Butler trying to run into a transition three with the Finals on the line when he has been shooting .233 on the season

Butlers been playing great but that's some crazy hero ball shit right there

[tonight...you]

A lot of these guys are really dumb.

Jaylen and Smart taking shots when they can simply hold the ball and go to the Finals. Jimmy Butler taking a 3 standing on the tip of his toes with Al Horford in front of him...:lol
He was trying to reenact the Memorial Day Miracle.
Sean had one last bullet.
Jimmy didn't.

[TimDunkem]

:lmao Jimmy Butler trying to run into a transition three with the Finals on the line when he has been shooting .233 on the season

Butlers been playing great but that's some crazy hero ball shit right there

Walked into it, shot it on his tip toes, with Horford the only guy between him and the rim. Didn't even think about it and just shot it. Sometimes confidence ISN'T enough. :lol

[Leetonidas]

Happy for our Spurs guys in Boston. They have a better shot of beating GS

[Spurs Homer]

Found myself pulling for the Heat - even tho I knew that miami would get crushed by the warrior-refs

but i was still pulling for them

now- thank god the celtics won- they hopefully wont roll over for those gs kunts

[Strategic]

Not sure Celtics will ever get far enough ahead of dubs to win a game. Smart chunking 3’s and Tatum/Brown show disappearing late was ugly

[PhantomDashCam]

NBA breathing a sigh of relief now that Boston are through. Miami with an incredible fight back but just would’ve been overmatched against GSW.
Boston has a legit chance and I’m picking them in 7…

[TimDunkem]

Not sure Celtics will ever get far enough ahead of dubs to win a game. Smart chunking 3’s and Tatum/Brown show disappearing late was ugly

Warriors are definitely ringing again. Celts are too dumb to beat a great team like the Dubs.

[Arcadian]

5 out of 7 games were won by the road team.

[tonight...you]

Walked into it, shot it on his tip toes, with Horford the only guy between him and the rim. Didn't even think about it and just shot it. Sometimes confidence ISN'T enough. :lol
Like I said: Memorial Day Miracle.
Some have that bullet in the chamber, some don't.

[tonight...you]

Warriors are definitely ringing again. Celts are too dumb to beat a great team like the Dubs.
They're not a great team.

They're a very good team that happens to be better than what is in front of them.

[Slippy]

Celtics seem to have all the posi covered going into the finals . I like their chances against the Warriors.

DWhite off the bench been huge on both ends as per usualt just like game 6 .. also came up big on his 3 point shot tonight.

[TimDunkem]

They're not a great team.

They're a very good team that happens to be better than what is in front of them.

It really doesn't matter.

[tonight...you]

It really doesn't matter.
I guess in the end you're right.
Just like our Lockout Championship and the Lakers Covid Trophy.

It doesn't really matter.

[exstatic]

I guess in the end you're right.
Just like our Lockout Championship and the Lakers Covid Trophy.

It doesn't really matter.

If you’re going to discount those, you have to throw the first Heatles trophy on the pile, too. 66 game lockout season.

[tonight...you]

If you’re going to discount those, you have to throw the first Heatles trophy on the pile, too. 66 game lockout season.
Yeah. Simplicity kind of demands an all-or-nothing mentality to the situation.

[John B]

Congratulations Former Spurs assistant Coaches Ime Udoka, Will Hardy and former Spur Derrick White on advancing to the NBA Finals!

[TD 21]

The Celtics are too banged up, worn down (neither of the past two series should have been as difficult as they were) and their half court offense, particularly in crunch time, still too untrustworthy, to beat the Warriors . . . and as good as Tatum is, he's a cut below the caliber to override that.

Warriors over Celtics in 6.



I guess in the end you're right.
Just like our Lockout Championship and the Lakers Covid Trophy.

It doesn't really matter.

:lmao I realize you're being sarcastic, but those aren't asterisk championships because the circumstances were equal for everyone.

The only ones that are, are '17-'19, because a bunch of insecure brats didn't want to compete and a scumbag intentionally destroyed his value, eventuating in a trade being consummated that otherwise would have never occurred, thereby destroying the credibility of it.

[Ice009]

Warriors are definitely ringing again. Celts are too dumb to beat a great team like the Dubs.

Wow. I didn't expect Spurs fans to be calling them a great team. I don't think they're that great. They are definitely very good and will be hard to Boston to win. I also just remembered that Boston doesn't have homecourt, so that kind of sucks. Hopefully Boston can overcome that.

[SAGirl]

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[John B]

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A Celtics win hopefully reimposes these values. I’m so sick of the weak divas collusions. Make it more fun again to root for homegrown teams

[KingKev]

Cekts guaranteeing Horford’s final year for 26.5mm regardless of outcome of finals. CLASSY.

[slick'81]

https://youtu.be/z9CuJebVgkA

[CGD]

If you’re going to discount those, you have to throw the first Heatles trophy on the pile, too. 66 game lockout season.

Under this lens, funny to think half of the Great LeBron James’ rings were from asterisks championships…

[CGD]

If Angie were there they’d trade him the day after he won the championship tbqh

[CGD]

Wow. I didn't expect Spurs fans to be calling them a great team. I don't think they're that great. They are definitely very good and will be hard to Boston to win. I also just remembered that Boston doesn't have homecourt, so that kind of sucks. Hopefully Boston can overcome that.

I don’t know man. My peak fandom was in the 2000s. Lakers, Mav, and suns are WAY above Warriors in my hate power rankings. Must be a younger fan thing, which makes sense because they basically came of age with LeBron or Warriors in the finals in most of the years spanning the past decade.

[KingKev]

Don’t understand the Warriors hate even after the ZaZa BS. I’d rather see the Warriors dominate; at least they have a long term core and are committed to their youth. They are very well managed and do alot of things right above the privilege of location, ownership, luck etc.

Kerr can be annoying but he is still a pretty damn good coach and person.

[rjv]

:lmao I realize you're being sarcastic, but those aren't asterisk championships because the circumstances were equal for everyone.

The only ones that are, are '17-'19, because a bunch of insecure brats didn't want to compete and a scumbag intentionally destroyed his value, eventuating in a trade being consummated that otherwise would have never occurred, thereby destroying the credibility of it.

while i agree that the circumstances were equal, i'd argue that some teams, including the lakers, benefited from the lockdown. for one, there was no home court advantage and this is what teams work for in the playoffs-the right to play a critical game in front of your home crowd. they also benefited from a substantial break before the season resumed and this gave AD and lebron the rest they needed before the lockdown format started. the lakers were still likely the favorite but i do think the lockdown title, if there was ever any championship that deserves an asterisk, would be the one.

[spurs10]

Thereasterisk asterick championships ....you win or you lose. Injuries alone make every season unique. :)

[TD 21]

while i agree that the circumstances were equal, i'd argue that some teams, including the lakers, benefited from the lockdown. for one, there was no home court advantage and this is what teams work for in the playoffs-the right to play a critical game in front of your home crowd. they also benefited from a substantial break before the season resumed and this gave AD and lebron the rest they needed before the lockdown format started. the lakers were still likely the favorite but i do think the lockdown title, if there was ever any championship that deserves an asterisk, would be the one.

The Suns and Heat were the latest examples of home court, eve in game 7, not meaning nearly as much as it used to.

Every team got rest. If anything, that Lakers team, flawed and not overly talented, probably wanted to keep the lightning in a bottle momentum they had going. They looked awful before the playoffs began in the bubble, with a bunch of old guys trying to rev back up.

[daslicer]

Don’t understand the Warriors hate even after the ZaZa BS. I’d rather see the Warriors dominate; at least they have a long term core and are committed to their youth. They are very well managed and do alot of things right above the privilege of location, ownership, luck etc.

Kerr can be annoying but he is still a pretty damn good coach and person.

I don't understand how a Spurs fan can like the Warriors. They are the antithesis of the Duncan Spurs title team. They are arrogant beyond belief and get special treatment from the refs. They showboat a ton for my liking.

Draymond is also the leader of their team and he's pretty filthy, dirty and the team takes after him with their behavior and mannerisms. Imagine if Jax was the leader of the Spurs and Manu, Tim, Parker all decided to act like him and all how clownish they would all look. That's how I view the rest of the Warriors.

I'm thankful for what Kerr did for the Spurs in '03 game 6 of the WCF but he's a scummy fake person in the mold of Phil Jackson with his media tactics in trying to get his team special treatment. Such as the bs he pulled "With breaking the code" nonsense to get Brooks suspended.

I also hate their style of play since it's caused the rest of league to copy them and in return create 3-point spam shooting contest every game. There is no real diversity of style play anymore because of the Warriors. The game is more boring because of them.

[daslicer]

I don’t know man. My peak fandom was in the 2000s. Lakers, Mav, and suns are WAY above Warriors in my hate power rankings. Must be a younger fan thing, which makes sense because they basically came of age with LeBron or Warriors in the finals in most of the years spanning the past decade.

I'm in my late 30's but there is only 1 team I hate more than the Warriors and that is the Lakers. Mavs pissed me off in '06 and I never hated the Suns TBH. I always viewed them as the Spurs' little brother. They never bothered me. Spurs always owned them so really couldn't hate them. Even when they swept the Spurs in '10 it didn't bother me since that Spurs team was probably one of the worst teams of the Duncan era.

[KingKev]

Warriors in 6 tbh.

[rjv]

The Suns and Heat were the latest examples of home court, eve in game 7, not meaning nearly as much as it used to.

Every team got rest. If anything, that Lakers team, flawed and not overly talented, probably wanted to keep the lightning in a bottle momentum they had going. They looked awful before the playoffs began in the bubble, with a bunch of old guys trying to rev back up.

well, if we're going to use anecdotal evidence, just this post-season alone, the home team has gone 11-3. although, last year, the home team went 9-6. considering the history of ADNP and Lebroken, i'd have to say that rest probably trumps rust in their case. the lockdown was also a very strange format whereas the only thing different about the strike season was that there were fewer games. i don't even think half of the players had their hearts in the playoffs as evidenced by walkouts, protests and players opting out.

[TD 21]

well, if we're going to use anecdotal evidence, just this post-season alone, the home team has gone 11-3. although, last year, the home team went 9-6. considering the history of ADNP and Lebroken, i'd have to say that rest probably trumps rust in their case. the lockdown was also a very strange format whereas the only thing different about the strike season was that there were fewer games. i don't even think half of the players had their hearts in the playoffs as evidenced by walkouts, protests and players opting out.

?

Not in '20, they weren't.

That could have easily applied to the Lakers too, but they didn't allow it to derail them. If anything, they should be commended for that.

[Dex]

Are we seriously going to sit here and argue about asterisks?

Spurs fans were up in arms when Phil Jackson said we deserved an asterisk for our '99 championship because of the lockout. Obviously, Spurs shut him up by winning 4 more.

Since then, we've had another lockout shortened season, the COVID-postponed Disney Bubble season, and a shortened and condensed season following that to catch up.

And you know what? All of those championships count the same because every team played in the same circumstances and had to deal with it. Don't go making excuses about injuries or illnesses or political statements because that shit happens every single season.

NBA played a full season this year, but Brooklyn basically sacrificed a ring because Kyrie is a nutjob who is afraid to get a shot...does this season deserve an asterisk too?

I'm the last one to defend the Lakers, but they went out there and got their ring in the bubble over everyone else who had the chance to stop them.

[tbdog]

The bubble ring is by far the biggest asterisks. The season stopped for months, and it was unknown even if the season would progress. That bubble was a tournament. I have a sneaky suspicion that the bubble doesn't go ahead if the Lakers were not the top seed. I have this conspiracy that Lebron made that season continue. He does jack squat if the 2021/22 season was cancelled.

[TimDunkem]

^ They were playing in empty gyms for fucks sake. :lol

[KingKev]

Wiggins is solid

[Spurs Homer]

I do NOT see any possible way the warrior-refs will let the phaggots lose one at home…

[daslicer]

I do NOT see any possible way the warrior-refs will let the phaggots lose one at home…

I'm not watching this game but what's going on? Are the refs letting the Warriors get away with hacking on defense?

[Chomag]

Refs taking over to insure warriors win

[Chomag]

Yep...this finals will be unwatchable as I thought

[GAustex]

Robert Williams loses the ball under the basket too much

[daslicer]

Yep...this finals will be unwatchable as I thought

I decided before the series started I wouldn't watch any of these games live. I just despise the Warriors too much to sit through watching them. If they lose any of these games I have them all taped on youtube TV and will watch the games they lose.

[CGD]

White >>>>>>>>> Smart

[CGD]

Yep...this finals will be unwatchable as I thought

Sir, you are out of your mind. After some truly terrible conference finals, this will be an awesome series.

[PhantomDashCam]

Derrick White! When he’s shooting like this…Damn…

[Strategic]

White >>>>>>>>> Smart
Don’t tell Pop

[ducks]

Notice curry makes shots in 4 when gs is ahead not behind

[Strategic]

Can the Celts finish

[CGD]

Don’t tell Pop

The spurs did right by White. He wasn’t winning here and they sent him to a winning situation. It hurt at the time (he was my favorite Spur), but it was the right move.

Also, that spurs dna fixed those soft Emo Boston boys.

[ducks]

Connor Letourneau
@Con_Chron
This has to be one of the Warriors' worst playoff collapses I can remember. Not boxing out. Not putting hands on shooters. Not moving the ball like normal.

[ducks]

Tatum sucked shooting their star but got 13 assist and did not score in 4

[Uriel]

I'm so impressed with Boston. I thought this game was over in the 3rd quarter. Then Boston locked in to begin the 4th quarter and completely changed the game.

[ducks]

Chris Grenham Chrisgrenham
If I told you this morning that Jayson Tatum was going to go 3-for-17, I’m going to go out on a limb and say you wouldn’t have had the Celtics winning by double digits

[ducks]

I would not be shocked if Boston wins series 4-1

[ducks]

Anthony Slater AnthonyVslater
That's a 40-16 fourth quarter for the Celtics to rip away Game 1 in SF. Warriors lose homecourt. Eight made jumpers from Al Horford. Derrick White stung them for 21 bench points. Celtics hit 21 3s

[Strategic]

Don’t forget the Celtics history is the top of the league. I don’t think they’re gonna get out reffed 7 games straight.

[Slippy]

DWhite proving he a big game player once again. In your face threes as well as the open ones. Him and Al Horford both x factors. Celtics 4th quarter extremely good, got stops and nailed their shots. Interesting how the celts went after these 2 in trade and now they making things happen.

[ducks]

Tonight proves why I would let green walk

[ducks]

DWhite proving he a big game player once again. In your face threes as well as the open ones. Him and Al Horford both x factors. Celtics 4th quarter extremely good, got stops and nailed their shots. Interesting how the celts went after these 2 in trade and now they making things happen.
You nailed it

[daslicer]

The spurs did right by White. He wasn’t winning here and they sent him to a winning situation. It hurt at the time (he was my favorite Spur), but it was the right move.

Also, that spurs dna fixed those soft Emo Boston boys.

This is exactly how I feel. Derrick was never going to be a star player but on an elite team as a third or fourth option he then becomes a dangerous weapon. He was way too inconsistent with the Spurs and injury prone. With the Celtics he can be inconsistent, and it won't hurt them since they already have 2 established stars in Tatum and Brown but when he's on like tonight it makes them unbeatable. White would have served this same type of role with the Spurs had Kawhi not gone AWOL.

[Dex]

I decided before the series started I wouldn't watch any of these games live. I just despise the Warriors too much to sit through watching them. If they lose any of these games I have them all taped on youtube TV and will watch the games they lose.

Guess you can watch this one.

Impressive 4th by the Celtics, props to DW

[Mugen]

My man Ime, could have been the successor :cry

[Spurs Homer]

Nice win!

Gonna hope derrick white can stay engaged and not disappear at any time in this series…

Tatum is bound to have a breakout game at some point…

if Ime drills the old pop - “how well do we respond to a win” mantra- the celts could really ruin the warriors parade by playing with intensity in game 2

most teams would relax and be happy to go home with a split….

cmon udoka-

[MultiTroll]

:danceclub dat comeback and continuing for the entire 4th.

[Arcadian]

Hahaha, fuck you Warriors. Little faggots.

:lol "prolific offense" going 5 minutes without scoring
:lol Curry sulking like a bitch, because he is a bitch
:lol Gaymond dominated by Al Horford
:lol Literally the entire analyst crew picking GS and being wrong

Meanwhile, this Celtics team is awesome. Their passing is giving me shades of the '14 Spurs.

Fuck the Warriors.

[mystargtr34]

Fuck the warriors. Great job Cetics and Derrick was HUGE. Go get game 2 also but gonna be tough to beat the refs aswell who will be looking to send it back to Boston tied 1-1.

[MI21]

Fuck the warriors. Great job Cetics and Derrick was HUGE. Go get game 2 also but gonna be tough to beat the refs aswell who will be looking to send it back to Boston tied 1-1.

G'day mate. Also, Fuck the Warriors.

[KimmyGib]

If Boston goes all the way, it'd be one of the greater playoff runs in recent memory. the durant-kyrie nets < defending champion bucks < 1 seed heat < GSW. Pretty damn impressive, and hoping they pull it off. Warriors on the other hand lucked into another relatively easy path to the finals, and I'd be happy to see them lose.

[SAGirl]

DWhite proving he a big game player once again. In your face threes as well as the open ones. Him and Al Horford both x factors. Celtics 4th quarter extremely good, got stops and nailed their shots. Interesting how the celts went after these 2 in trade and now they making things happen.
Yup. I don’t think they’ll regret those trades at all. Happy for Dwhite. He’s a new dad too… what memories f from this playoffs.

[daslicer]

Guess you can watch this one.

Impressive 4th by the Celtics, props to DW

Just finished watching it now. I was amazed at how the Warriors choked towards the end of the third quarter. They had several chances to go up by 20 but couldn't do it and the Celtics played terrible also to end the third. DW was amazing he kept the Celtics in the game when they could have easily faltered. An observation I made is the Warriors did play good team defense on Tatum but Tatum also missed some shots he should have made. Warriors focusing too hard on Tatum defensively allowed Jaylen Brown to eventually go off in the 4th. The Warriors can't guard Tatum the way they did Luka and expect to get away with it due to Brown. This will cause problems for the Warriors throughout the series. The other observation I made is the Celtics got much better as the game progressed at guarding Curry off screens. Curry can still make shots when contested but the Celtics successfully contested all of his 3's off the screens late in the game. It was incredible to watch. The final observation I made is the Celtics defense is too great that whenever Steph is not on the court the Warriors fall apart. They might need Steph to play 40 plus minutes a game to win this series but I'm not sure at his age that he can do it.

Hoping the Celtics can win game 2 granted it will be hard.

[99 Problems]

Good on Whitey he’s a good guy. Poor old Golden Fake hahahaha.

[Ice009]

I really want to see if the Warriors crumble after this game. I feel the Spurs had them in a very similar spot in the 2017 playoffs before Zaza took Kawhi out. Maybe it could have been an even worse loss as the Spurs were dominating the game until then, and Kawhi was looking like he's going for 40 plus. I wanted to see how they would have responded to a loss at home and trailing the series back then, but never got to see it due to the shit that happened. I think they might crumble, but we will see I guess.

[Dex]

I really want to see if the Warriors crumble after this game. I feel the Spurs had them in a very similar spot in the 2017 playoffs before Zaza took Kawhi out. Maybe it could have been an even worse loss as the Spurs were dominating the game until then, and Kawhi was looking like he's going for 40 plus. I wanted to see how they would have responded to a loss at home and trailing the series back then, but never got to see it due to the shit that happened. I think they might crumble, but we will see I guess.

Yeah, I think there is still a lot of basketball to be played. Warriors will probably come in with a vengeance game 2, and are also capable of stealing one in Boston.

I still think this series goes 6 or 7, but Boston definitely laid a haymaker on the Warriors last night. Their odds of winning definitely shot up just by having one in the books already.

[ducks]

These Warriors historically set the tone in the Steve Kerr era (27-2 in Game 1s before Thursday) with notable exceptions — in 2016 against Oklahoma City and the 2019 Finals against Toronto.

[Chomag]

Horfard went all Robert Horry on that Warrior's ass

[MultiTroll]

Don't underestimate the correlation of WarriorRef failing last night.

Their MVP comes back and Boston will have to win by 30 to show up on the scoreboard as a win by 2.

[exstatic]

I'm so impressed with Boston. I thought this game was over in the 3rd quarter. Then Boston locked in to begin the 4th quarter and completely changed the game.

They are nasty AF on D when RW III plays.

[rjv]

They are nasty AF on D when RW III plays.

i always hoped that RW III would wind up a spur; he was a beast at A&M.

[illusioNtEk]

:lol Gaymond dominated by Al Horford


:lol

[GAustex]

Curry tweeked his ankle near the end
Any word on if it’s more than nothing
Thanks

[ducks]

Curry tweeked his ankle near the end
Any word on if it’s more than nothing
Thanks

Lol excuses !
He can not make a basket down 3 only when up

[mystargtr34]

G'day mate. Also, Fuck the Warriors.

How are you mate? Been a while. Still in Perth area?

[Ice009]

These Warriors historically set the tone in the Steve Kerr era (27-2 in Game 1s before Thursday) with notable exceptions — in 2016 against Oklahoma City and the 2019 Finals against Toronto.

Darn, didn't realize that was their game 1 record. As a mentioned a few posts above on the previous page, should have also been down 0-1 against the Spurs in 2017 if not for Kawhi being taken out. I really wanted to see how they would go being down in a series when at full strength. The OKC series they should have lost if not for the Thunder's choke in game 6 & 7, and they lost the Raptors series, but had both KD and Klay were injured in that one (The Raptors series was interesting as I thought with KD out it was finally a level playing field where they didn't have a major advantage, but then when Klay went out, the Raptors had the advantage. I really wanted to see how the series would have went without just one of KD or Klay as I felt that would have been a level playing field for once). I guess we will now see how they respond being down against Boston to start the series as this is finally a level playing field as far as the Warriors not being stacked when they had KD.

[BatManu20]

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[Robz4000]

:lol Dubrefs already in full effect

[Robz4000]

:lmao these phantom calls

[Arcadian]

Boston still looking comfortable. If they maintain a lead in the next half, GS will start to tighten up and choke.

[Strategic]

Wonder if we’ll see first ejection in the 2nd half. Thinking its gonna get chippier the longer the Celtics stay close

[BatManu20]

Celtics down 30. Still think the warriors* win this series in 6 or 7. Celtics’ offense is just hot fucking garbage far too often.

[daslicer]

Celtics down 30. Still think they win this series in 6 or 7. Celtics’ offense is just hot fucking garbage far too often.

I haven't been watching the game but what happened? Judging by the box scores it was neck and neck until the third quarter. The Celtics shot poorly according to boxscores was that because of the Warriors defense or were they just missing open shots?

[RC_Drunkford]

The Celtics were never running good offense, just iso plays hitting tough contested shots. You could see the collapse coming

[timtonymanu]

I’m guessing everyone is ready to crown the Warriors again cause they won a game they should have won. Honestly this series is still a toss up to me.

[RC_Drunkford]

The Celtics have a good chance of winning this series cause Klay is stinking it up. They just have to find ways to get easier buckets in the paint

[Spurs Homer]

Refs allowed raymond to hack away early-

then- any other player in the nba would have gotten a double T when raymond and jaylen brown went at it

refs knew green had one T and looked the other way per par

but we knew this was coming

[daslicer]

The Celtics have a good chance of winning this series cause Klay is stinking it up. They just have to find ways to get easier buckets in the paint

I gave the Celtics a 50-50 shot before the series started and still have it at 50-50.

Klay to me is washed in the sense that he's no longer a star. He's been like this for the whole entire playoffs. He will have 1 or 2 good games per a series and then will just be average to mediocre. It reminds me of how Rudy Gay would look like an all-star for the Spurs for 2-3 games and then go back to just being average for the next 7 games. You don't ever comeback 100 percent from an Achilles tendon injury. The only guys I have seen that came close to 100 was Dominique and Durant.

[John B]

Smart, Williams and Horford total 6 points. :bang

[daslicer]

Refs allowed raymond to hack away early-

then- any other player in the nba would have gotten a double T when raymond and jaylen brown went at it

refs knew green had one T and looked the other way per par

but we knew this was coming

I was watching an interview with Rasheed Wallace, Bonzi and Tim Donaghy the other day and what stood out to me is when Sheed asked him directly "Did the league tell you directly to help certain teams and players win." Donaghy's response was "No it wasn't direct but it's more subtle. For example they will send us a memo before every game that will say something like player X is getting away with hacking and needs to be called for fouls or player Y is getting hacked and should be shooting more freethrows." I believe the league sends out the memo to the refs that Draymond is not to be ejected out of a game unless he actually punches a player in the face. Short of that he only gets 1 tech and other situations you don't assess him a tech.

I just don't believe these refs are that stupid and incompetent.

[SAGirl]

Refs allowed raymond to hack away early-

then- any other player in the nba would have gotten a double T when raymond and jaylen brown went at it

refs knew green had one T and looked the other way per par

but we knew this was coming
Yup. I noticed this in the series against the Grizzlies too.
even some media are mentioning it.
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[TD 21]

I rarely criticize officiating, but :lmao at that 1st half, which conveniently came as the Warriors, the league/media darlings, were struggling in a virtual must win game.

[daslicer]

Yup. I noticed this in the series against the Grizzlies too.
even some media are mentioning it.
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He's protected by the league and he knows it. If he didn't play on the most popular team in the league he would be getting tossed out of games left and right. There is always that one guy who benefits greatly from playing on a popular team in which the refs favor. I remember that was the case with Dennis Rodman when he was with the Bulls granted he was more skilled than Draymond but he got away with more shit then he would have had he played for a team like Sacramento. I still remember when Rodman played for the Mavs he was getting thrown out of games quicker than he did when he was with the bulls for doing the same things he used to get away with the bulls. The same applies to Draymond. I'm looking forward to seeing him end his career on a shitty team.

[John B]

Ime got a tech instead for complaining

[TDMVPDPOY]

watch highlights of the game...draymond green shouldve been fouled out by the end of the 3rd quarter, fkn clown gets away with too much shit on the floor with his moving screens and holding players from chasing offensive player or getting back up

[Ice009]

I was watching an interview with Rasheed Wallace, Bonzi and Tim Donaghy the other day and what stood out to me is when Sheed asked him directly "Did the league tell you directly to help certain teams and players win." Donaghy's response was "No it wasn't direct but it's more subtle. For example they will send us a memo before every game that will say something like player X is getting away with hacking and needs to be called for fouls or player Y is getting hacked and should be shooting more freethrows." I believe the league sends out the memo to the refs that Draymond is not to be ejected out of a game unless he actually punches a player in the face. Short of that he only gets 1 tech and other situations you don't assess him a tech.

I just don't believe these refs are that stupid and incompetent.

Got a link to that interview? Haven't seen Bonzi in ages. Are they doing some sort of podcast, or was it just a one off interview?

Really bad game from the Celtics last night. I am trying to figure out if they were just satisfied with winning game one and maybe they thought the Warriors would just roll over. It's like they didn't come out to play, but also, the refs really do have more control of a game than some people like to admit/believe. If a game is called a certain way, it can affect the outcome. I'll use game 6 in 2012 (Spurs Vs OKC). Stephen Jackson was on fire, Spurs had a 20+ point lead in OKC at halftime, Stephen hits another big three pointer in the third quarter and looks over to the OKC bench where I am pretty sure there was OKC player/s jawing/talking crap to him, yet he gets called the the technical, but no-one on the bench does (if any remembers the incident, please do tell me what you recall happening). Then in the 4th quarter it's nothing but touch foul after touch foul on the Spurs (I am sure on one of them, the Spurs player didn't even make contact), and before you know it, the OKC comeback is on and the Spurs couldn't do anything right from that point on.

I am also a little worried about whether or not the Celtics have the offensive depth to keep up with the Warriors' offensive depth. The Celtics defense is very good, can't knock them on that side of the ball, but on offense, not sure if they have the offensive depth to keep up with the Warriors scoring. The Celtics need to hit back hard and win game 3. They gotta keep the Warriors down in the series IMO if they want to impose their will and make them crumble. I hope the Celtics come out ready in game three and win the game to put the Warriors down a game again.

[KimmyGib]

So Steve Javie stated that Draymond's action would've been a technical foul if he didn't already have one, but the officials aren't supposed to issue a 2nd T if the offense isn't enough to warrant ejection. So then what the heck is the point of the two tech ejection rule? An action that warrants ejection will result in an ejection either way, wouldn't it? Seems like all the rule accomplishes is to give a dirty player a safety net from picking up t's and giving up freethrows.

Also funny how once the game was in the bag for GS, the refs completed turned things around in garbage time and started giving boston a bunch of freethrows to even out the disparity. Predictable fix. Reminded me of how they used to always pull that with the Durant era OKC team. The NBA is annoying.

[Ice009]

So Steve Javie stated that Draymond's action would've been a technical foul if he didn't already have one, but the officials aren't supposed to issue a 2nd T if the offense isn't enough to warrant ejection. So then what the heck is the point of the two tech ejection rule? An action that warrants ejection will result in an ejection either way, wouldn't it? Seems like all the rule accomplishes is to give a dirty player a safety net from picking up t's and giving up freethrows.

Also funny how once the game was in the bag for GS, the refs completed turned things around in garbage time and started giving boston a bunch of freethrows to even out the disparity. Predictable fix. Reminded me of how they used to always pull that with the Durant era OKC team. The NBA is annoying.

I found the podcast Daslicer was referring to and watched it all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk0dZ-ZsuM0

Tim Donaghy will explain the BS the NBA does. Supposedly this was cleaned up, but if you look at the NBA now, you can still see some of the stuff happening that Tim Donaghy is talking about. The Draymond thing is a prime example of it, and also Steve Javie isn't the best guy to take advice from as he's one of the refs that Tim said was at the top of Stern's list for calling crucial games when they needed something to go a certain way. Dick Bavetta, Joey Crawford, Steve Javie were the guys the NBA had refereeing games when they wanted to pull some shady shit like extending series. I remember talking about specific referees names here 10+ years ago as when you saw that name before a game, you knew you were not going to get favourable calls.

I am now certain that game 6 against OKC in 2012 was a screw job. Games in the Spurs Vs Mavericks 2006 series (I think game 3 & 4 especially were refereed a certain way), also Dallas was screwed over in the finals that year. 2000, Portland against Lakers (although Rasheed admitted he takes some of the blame as the Blazers missed 13 shots in a row and 8 of the misses were from himself, so he said he could have made some of those shots), and another off the top of my head and maybe the most blatant of all - the 2002 Kings Vs Lakers was another game I remember that it felt and looked like it was blatantly called in favour of one team.

[MultiTroll]

Thanks for the WarrriorRef report guys. I avoided 95% of the game.

Bostons offense: Did they revert to Kobme Tatum because the other starters were bricking or ?
-36 for Tatum.

[SAGirl]

Boston had a ton of TO. I dare say that cost them the game. A bunch of them came from ISO Kobme plays, others were just trying to force transition offense and warriors defending that well. Boston looked rushed on many plays, and out of control. I think the mental factor played into this, once the poor calls, and the emotions got the best of them.

[Chomag]

Is there any team in history that gets away with moving screens as much as the warriors do? I just rewatched it and there was a play where green literally with both arms forward pushing out Curry's defender forward out of the play...

[Dex]

Is there any team in history that gets away with moving screens as much as the warriors do? I just rewatched it and there was a play where green literally with both arms forward pushing out Curry's defender forward out of the play...

Refs: "That's just the way he plays, he's an intense guy"

I couldn't believe it when Javie literally said on live television that refs consider player tendencies and also are more careful to hand out a second tech because "an ejection would affect the game".

Like...shouldn't a tech be a tech regardless of the player or situation? Why would you coddle a guy for already having picked up one tech...if anything, they should be MORE harsh so they will quit their bullshit.

[Chomag]

watch highlights of the game...draymond green shouldve been fouled out by the end of the 3rd quarter, fkn clown gets away with too much shit on the floor with his moving screens and holding players from chasing offensive player or getting back up

I just posted about this same thing before I saw your post:lol

I'm glad I'm not the only one that notices this, it's pathetic. If they keep this up and nobody is going to want to watch this NBA's shitty product.

[Chomag]

Like...shouldn't a tech be a tech regardless of the player or situation? Why would you coddle a guy for already having picked up one tech...if anything, they should be MORE harsh so they will quit their bullshit.

You would think...
So much for calling things fair and even 😕

[John B]

Refs: "That's just the way he plays, he's an intense guy"

I couldn't believe it when Javie literally said on live television that refs consider player tendencies and also are more careful to hand out a second tech because "an ejection would affect the game".

Like...shouldn't a tech be a tech regardless of the player or situation? Why would you coddle a guy for already having picked up one tech...if anything, they should be MORE harsh so they will quit their bullshit.


Because it’s Dubs the darling of the NBA. Draymond getting ejected could get the rest of the Boston offense going. Getting 0-2 heading to Boston would be disastrous. The refs were making sure this playoffs extends.

[RC_Drunkford]

...and another off the top of my head and maybe the most blatant of all - the 2002 Kings Vs Lakers was another game I remember that it felt and looked like it was blatantly called in favour of one team.

that game is the prime example of rigging games. Absolute joke. The Kings should've won that series and everybody knows it

[spurs10]

Green is making a mockery of the NBA. Unless I see someone deal with that creep I'll be not watching much. By deal with him I mean toss him out of the game or maybe knock his ass out. Celtic alumni player said 'Try do that shit in the 80s and someone would knock the fucker out.'

[John B]

Green is making a mockery of the NBA. Unless I see someone deal with that creep I'll be not watching much. By deal with him I mean toss him out of the game or maybe knock his ass out. Celtic alumni player said 'Try do that shit in the 80s and someone would knock the fucker out.'

I think Grant Williams has been trying to bait him. I think the 3rd game at Boston would be VERY physical after that no technical and see how the officials react.

[timtonymanu]

Green is making a mockery of the NBA. Unless I see someone deal with that creep I'll be not watching much. By deal with him I mean toss him out of the game or maybe knock his ass out. Celtic alumni player said 'Try do that shit in the 80s and someone would knock the fucker out.'

As long as Adam silver is around, he won’t do anything about it. And hide how horrible of a commissioner he is behind whatever social justice issue he can milk.

[daslicer]

I found the podcast Daslicer was referring to and watched it all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk0dZ-ZsuM0

Tim Donaghy will explain the BS the NBA does. Supposedly this was cleaned up, but if you look at the NBA now, you can still see some of the stuff happening that Tim Donaghy is talking about. The Draymond thing is a prime example of it, and also Steve Javie isn't the best guy to take advice from as he's one of the refs that Tim said was at the top of Stern's list for calling crucial games when they needed something to go a certain way. Dick Bavetta, Joey Crawford, Steve Javie were the guys the NBA had refereeing games when they wanted to pull some shady shit like extending series. I remember talking about specific referees names here 10+ years ago as when you saw that name before a game, you knew you were not going to get favourable calls.

I am now certain that game 6 against OKC in 2012 was a screw job. Games in the Spurs Vs Mavericks 2006 series (I think game 3 & 4 especially were refereed a certain way), also Dallas was screwed over in the finals that year. 2000, Portland against Lakers (although Rasheed admitted he takes some of the blame as the Blazers missed 13 shots in a row and 8 of the misses were from himself, so he said he could have made some of those shots), and another off the top of my head and maybe the most blatant of all - the 2002 Kings Vs Lakers was another game I remember that it felt and looked like it was blatantly called in favour of one team.

It was never cleaned up. It's always been like this probably since the time Stern took over the league during the 1980's. Silver is just a nicer version of Stern.

[daslicer]

As long as Adam silver is around, he won’t do anything about it. And hide how horrible of a commissioner he is behind whatever social justice issue he can milk.

Sounds like the politicians that we have today in Washington.

[Spurs Homer]

Thanks for the WarrriorRef report guys. I avoided 95% of the game.

Bostons offense: Did they revert to Kobme Tatum because the other starters were bricking or ?
-36 for Tatum.

well, anytime boston players drove into the lane they were hacked across their arms from three directions- of course no calls

and this triggered a warriors break

eventually boston knew the fix was in and they pretty much got out of sorts

then udoka had enough of greens bullshit (udoka giving green the stink eye was funny - id take udoka over that phaggot in a fight any day)

and refs T-ed up udoka

after that the celtics basically said “we’ll get em in boston”

however i doubt the refs will give those same calls to boston in both games
if lucky- boston will get a fair shake in ONE of the home games - NOT in both

then those front-running phaggots will get another assist from the refs in game 5 at gs

and prance around with a 3-2 lead

[Ice009]

Watch this podcast with Rasheed, Bonzi and former NBA ref Tim Donaghy. It's worth watching if you want to know the kind of stuff NBA refs can get up to as they are instructed before games on certain things :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk0dZ-ZsuM0

[MultiTroll]

Is there any team in history that gets away with moving screens as much as the warriors do? I just rewatched it and there was a play where green literally with both arms forward pushing out Curry's defender forward out of the play...


Refs: "That's just the way he plays, he's an intense guy"

I couldn't believe it when Javie literally said on live television that refs consider player tendencies and also are more careful to hand out a second tech because "an ejection would affect the game".

Like...shouldn't a tech be a tech regardless of the player or situation? Why would you coddle a guy for already having picked up one tech...if anything, they should be MORE harsh so they will quit their bullshit.


Green is making a mockery of the NBA. Unless I see someone deal with that creep I'll be not watching much. By deal with him I mean toss him out of the game or maybe knock his ass out. Celtic alumni player said 'Try do that shit in the 80s and someone would knock the fucker out.'


well, anytime boston players drove into the lane they were hacked across their arms from three directions- of course no calls

and this triggered a warriors break

eventually boston knew the fix was in and they pretty much got out of sorts

then udoka had enough of greens bullshit (udoka giving green the stink eye was funny - id take udoka over that phaggot in a fight any day)

and refs T-ed up udoka

after that the celtics basically said “we’ll get em in boston”

however i doubt the refs will give those same calls to boston in both games
if lucky- boston will get a fair shake in ONE of the home games - NOT in both

then those front-running phaggots will get another assist from the refs in game 5 at gs

and prance around with a 3-2 lead
Draymond: 'I've earned differential treatment' from refs - Espn:lmao :vomit:

[Arcadian]

I am now certain that game 6 against OKC in 2012 was a screw job. Games in the Spurs Vs Mavericks 2006 series (I think game 3 & 4 especially were refereed a certain way), also Dallas was screwed over in the finals that year.

Why would the league be biased in favor of Dallas over SA? Both were defensive teams with a superstar PF, both from Texas. If anything, the Spurs were more exciting at that time because of Tony and Manu.

[MultiTroll]

well, anytime boston players drove into the lane they were hacked across their arms from three directions- of course no calls

and this triggered a warriors break

eventually boston knew the fix was in and they pretty much got out of sorts

then udoka had enough of greens bullshit (udoka giving green the stink eye was funny - id take udoka over that phaggot in a fight any day)

and refs T-ed up udoka

after that the celtics basically said “we’ll get em in boston”

however i doubt the refs will give those same calls to boston in both games
if lucky- boston will get a fair shake in ONE of the home games - NOT in both

then those front-running phaggots will get another assist from the refs in game 5 at gs

and prance around with a 3-2 lead
Rack it.
Thank you for the details.
I've got it on video but probably won't bother. Like daslicer sometimes it's better just to avoid rigged Dubs games.


Watch this podcast with Rasheed, Bonzi and former NBA ref Tim Donaghy. It's worth watching if you want to know the kind of stuff NBA refs can get up to as they are instructed before games on certain things :
FFS there it is word for word.
To those who think it never happened.
And we're supposed to believe as time goes on it's getting better? True Stern Jr. is just a continuation of corruption.

[ducks]

Sorry I TOTALLY disagree with you on a player's RIGHT to disrespect the flag. Professional athletes are paid exorbitant amounts of money to PLAY... They are NOT paid that money to make political statements while they are getting paid to play! If I started blathering on and on with MY political opinions and wore a shirt with a political statement when I was getting paid to work, management would politely call me into an office, close the door and politely and pointedly tell me that while I have a right to my opinions, they hired me to do the job they are paying me to do... NOT to express my political opinions on THEIR time.. Further, they would tell me to go home and put on a work appropriate shirt with NO political statement on it.. and then come back to work. I have 3 Let's Go Brandon t shirts that I wear regularly.. but I would NEVER consider wearing them at work because it would be inappropriate to do so.
Undoubtedly, they would also tell me that if I refused, I WOULD be fired.
Players DO NOT have a right to force their political opinions on the fans by kneeling, making gestures, or wearing uniforms with political statements on them while playing.
If said players were really THAT passionate about something, there are appropriate times and places to express their opinions. Doing so while you are being paid to play is NOT one of those appropriate times...PERIOD.. no arguments by you or anyone else on this issue

[Ice009]

Why would the league be biased in favor of Dallas over SA? Both were defensive teams with a superstar PF, both from Texas. If anything, the Spurs were more exciting at that time because of Tony and Manu.

No idea, but I remember ridiculous touch fouls/phantom fouls in the 4th quarters of game 3 & 4 of that series when the Spurs had a lead. Tim and Manu fouled out in one of those games. Tim's, I recall was Dirk stepping on Tim's foot and they were quick to call the foul on Tim to get him out. Both Manu and Tim were playing great in the 4th quarter of the game they fouled out of. Also, the Manu foul on Dirk at the end of game 7, Manu barely touched him (he did make contact), but then Tim Duncan was hacked at the end of regulation and never got any free throws. I don't think that series was called fairly. I have no idea why. Maybe the NBA wanted Dallas in the finals so they could favour Miami. No idea on the reasons, but in any case, I think the officiating was terrible in the Spurs Vs Mavs series. Dallas got royally screwed in the finals, but I don't feel bad for them as IMO they got what they deserved as they shouldn't have been there in the first place.

[exstatic]

Why would the league be biased in favor of Dallas over SA? Both were defensive teams with a superstar PF, both from Texas. If anything, the Spurs were more exciting at that time because of Tony and Manu.

Dallas is a bigger market, and a much bigger TV market.

[exstatic]

No idea, but I remember ridiculous touch fouls/phantom fouls in the 4th quarters of game 3 & 4 of that series when the Spurs had a lead. Tim and Manu fouled out in one of those games. Tim's, I recall was Dirk stepping on Tim's foot and they were quick to call the foul on Tim to get him out. Both Manu and Tim were playing great in the 4th quarter of the game they fouled out of. Also, the Manu foul on Dirk at the end of game 7, Manu barely touched him (he did make contact), but then Tim Duncan was hacked at the end of regulation and never got any free throws. I don't think that series was called fairly. I have no idea why. Maybe the NBA wanted Dallas in the finals so they could favour Miami. No idea on the reasons, but in any case, I think the officiating was terrible in the Spurs Vs Mavs series. Dallas got royally screwed in the finals, but I don't feel bad for them as IMO they got what they deserved as they shouldn't have been there in the first place.

If you go back and look at the game 1s from 2003 and 2006, Dallas shot 49 and 50 FTs. That's not a typo. The league knew that if they got behind, they would fold like a cheap card table.

[Spurs Homer]

Been thinking bout tonites game…

aint no fucking way the celtics will be allowed to return to gs up- 3-1

just no fucking way

dont know which game the refs will corrupt the game- but one of these in boston will be fixed

disgusting

boston is the better team, better defense, more balanced - but they got to keep their heads and keep plugging away despite the frustration of fighting against the opponent and the bad calls…

[spurs10]

I think Grant Williams has been trying to bait him. I think the 3rd game at Boston would be VERY physical after that no technical and see how the officials react. Yeah my thoughts as well. Go CELTICS Rope a Donkey!

[Chomag]

WARREFS starting early

[Spurs Homer]

Sure hope tatum snaps out of this trance

he is playing like a giant vagina…always clutching his right shoulder -with no one even touching him
this is the fucking finals wtf is he scared of?

[Chomag]

Lol @ these phantom calls

[Spurs Homer]

Ref time!

[Big Empty]

Tatum isnt as good as Brown

[Spurs Homer]

Tatum isnt as good as Brown

he is better at times

brown is also known to disappear- i guess only ONE of them plays well at any given time

would be nice if they both got rolling to offset the refs lol

[Big Empty]

Go Speltics Go! Ha

[Mr. Body]

This has to be the least intense and compelling Finals ever.

[GAustex]

Celts are choking it away

[Chomag]

Serious question, has a MVP ever been awarded to the refs before?

[baseline bum]

Knew this would be a shitshow when we saw Scott Foster

[Dex]

Knew this would be a shitshow when we saw Scott Foster

Just depends on what lines he put money on :rolleyes

[GAustex]

It is strange rooting for a team that I really do not like cause I really really do not like the other team

[slick'81]

It is strange rooting for a team that I really do not like cause I really really do not like the other team


meh, I think we all want to see curry suffer

[Dex]

It is strange rooting for a team that I really do not like cause I really really do not like the other team

I'm just glad it's not the Lakers, Clippers, Mavericks, or Suns (the last two are kinda petty but....fuck them).

Also Brooklyn because they tried to buy a championship, and Philly because Harden.

Frankly, these are the lesser of evils.

Kerr is a former Spur and Pop disciple. They built their team well, and it's not like they have stacked the deck now that Durant is gone.

Ime is a former Spur and Pop disciple. And Derrick White has made good contributions in this run.

I'd prefer Boston to win, but I really could go either way and not lose any sleep over it.

[Spurs Homer]

meh, I think we all want to see curry suffer and die right in front of his cheating whore mom!


fify

[Dex]

Watching Draymond Green continue to be an asshole on the court does get tiresome, though.

[Spurs Homer]

Green should have fouled out on that tatum drive…

[baseline bum]

LMAO at Celtics fans chanting Fuck You Draymond :lmao

[GAustex]

FTW

[Spurs Homer]

If celts can muster up the balls to win the next game to go up 3-1

it will be nice watching the front-running phaggots folding and playing scared

[timtonymanu]

:lol anyone afraid of Golden State. I mean they could still win the title because the nba sucks so bad right now but they aren’t even close to the peak Warriors form.

[Arcadian]

Dallas is a bigger market, and a much bigger TV market.

Yeah but do you really think that's the only factor that matters? Does the bigger market always get biased officiating in every series ever?

[Arcadian]

Two wins away from 18.

GS can never get a stop when they really need it.

Draymond Green is such a mediocre faggot of a player. 2 points and 6 fouls in a Finals game. I don't want to hear how smart he is or how great of a defender he is. He doesn't make that much of a difference. Rasheed Wallace would shit all over this guy. And that's supposed to be your third best player?

Boston is nothing to write home about either, though. This is one of the weaker Finals matchups in many years, tbh.

[Spurs Homer]

Two wins away from 18.

GS can never get a stop when they really need it.

Draymond Green is such a mediocre faggot of a player. 2 points and 6 fouls in a Finals game. I don't want to hear how smart he is or how great of a defender he is. He doesn't make that much of a difference. Rasheed Wallace would shit all over this guy. And that's supposed to be your third best player?

Boston is nothing to write home about either, though. This is one of the weaker Finals matchups in many years, tbh.

I’d give Boston props for their defense though, as they really really make Thompson and Curry WORK for their shots -as opposed to almost every other team who just get taken out by draymonds moving screens and curry and thompson go batshit crazy with open three after open three…

[Mr. Body]

Warriors really needed to get a good big at the deadline. Draymond isn't good enough anymore and their guards and wings are too small and not bangers. They're lucky to face Denver with so many injuries. Boston isn't even that strong inside but they're much better there.