Official 2022 NBA Offseason and 2022-2023 NBA Season Thread

[Arcadian]

No lose for Scumbag. Win and the media, who will doubtlessly pretend they're massive underdogs no matter George's status, can pretend he's a hero.

As usual, Warriors get lucky. They're in a bracket with the Kings, Grizzlies (no Adams or Clarke) and Lakers (James and Davis aren't 100%), clearing a path to the Conference Finals.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Lakers lost their first play-in game and switched brackets, tbh.

[sickdsm]

He's their "Bruce Bowen". Huge loss for Grizzlies

He's quite a bit better than Bowen. He has legitamate offense game and fully expect him to be a two way star in the next few years.

Finch is/has been over his head all year long. No way that clown show happens with an average or better coach.

[Robz4000]

:lol Dubs with insane luck yet again

[baseline bum]

Minnesota looking sharp without Gobert dragging them down

[Robz4000]

:lmao refs

[Barfunk]

It was fun while it lasted Minny. Can't have Ant-Eater going 1-20 and expect to win.

[baseline bum]

WTF happened to Minnesota's offense. God this game got ugly as fuck.

[Arcadian]

Shut the fuck up, Reggie Miller. You can't dive into someone's legs.

[Robz4000]

WTF happened to Minnesota's offense. God this game got ugly as fuck.

They started calling touch fouls on one end while the Lakers were allowed to do whatever they wanted on the other tbh.

[Arcadian]

:lmao Kyle Anderson

[Robz4000]

:lol Fathead

[Arcadian]

Both these teams are fucking awful and should feel bad, win or lose

[baseline bum]

JFC this is some garbage basketball. Feels like I'm watching Spurs vs Spurs.

[Barfunk]

Well shit. Cakers move on.

[baseline bum]

ROFL Anthony Davis is a fucking retard :lmao

[horseshue]

T-pups shitting their bed as usual.

[MultiTroll]

Anthony Davis what a dumbphuck.

Zaza'd Conley, good call.

[baseline bum]

:rollin

[Robz4000]

:lmao Street Clothes

[horseshue]

AD. :lol

[Arcadian]

:lmao Anthony Davis, what an idiot
:lmao Not able to beat a team that went 6 minutes without scoring

[baseline bum]

T-pups shitting their bed as usual.

LOLkers one upping them :lol

[baseline bum]

:lmao Not able to beat a team that went 6 minutes without scoring

:rollin

[MultiTroll]

Are the Lakers out with a loss?

[Arcadian]

It's like all the Wolves players forgot how to dribble, shoot, and pass

[baseline bum]

Anthony Edwards getting outplayed by fucking Schroeder :lol

[baseline bum]

Minnesota's gotta quit jacking up bullshit threes

[baseline bum]

Are the Lakers out with a loss?

No

[Barfunk]

Well sheet

[Arcadian]

Edwards just had a Holocaust of a performance tonight. My god.

[LkrFan]

Anthony Edwards getting outplayed by fucking Schroeder :lol

Hey BB - how did you celebrate det Lakers dub? :D

[baseline bum]

Hey BB - how did you celebrate det Lakers dub? :D

Got a lap dance and then took your sister to the hotel.

[lefty]

Got a lap dance and then took your sister to the hotel.
Wait….



you too????!!!!

[LkrFan]

Got a lap dance and then took your sister to the hotel.

Wait….



you too????!!!!

I need new friends :cry

[LkrFan]

Ja tryna posterize AD.
https://media.tenor.com/Hm8RHw_kPtQAAAAM/saturday-weekend.gif

[LkrFan]

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What's up with Nephew? :lol

[Tyronn Lue]

Got a lap dance and then took your sister to the hotel.
Doesn't she work there? :lol

[baseline bum]

Doesn't she work there? :lol

Nah she was working in front of the hotel tbh

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/7JHDRPT/Screenshot-20230507-003840-Chrome.png

Draymond 1 FG & 2 Boards

Rodman would kick his ass

Kukoc vs Durant


Bulls over Warriors.

[Tyronn Lue]

Nah she was working in front of the hotel tbh
:lol

[TrainOfThought5]

Jalen Brown seeking a trade?!

[JamStone]

https://sports.yahoo.com/espns-mark-jackson-apologizes-after-nba-reveals-he-left-nikola-jokic-off-his-mvp-ballot-211937128.html

Mark Jackson, revealed as the only voter to leave Jokic off his MVP ballot, apologizes to Jokic, Nuggets.

There goes that man.

[ambchang]

:lol why am I not surprised that idiot was mark jackson.

[lefty]

:lol why am I not surprised that idiot was mark jackson.
Dude voted for 5 black players
:lol


Joel Embiid, C, Philadelphia 76ers
Giannis Antetokounmpo, F, Milwaukee Bucks
Jayson Tatum, F, Boston Celtics
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, G, Oklahoma City Thunder
Donovan Mitchell, G, Cleveland Cavaliers

[spurraider21]

Dude voted for 5 black players
:lol


Joel Embiid, C, Philadelphia 76ers
Giannis Antetokounmpo, F, Milwaukee Bucks
Jayson Tatum, F, Boston Celtics
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, G, Oklahoma City Thunder
Donovan Mitchell, G, Cleveland Cavaliers
his excuse was he was going for an all-nba team and not the mvp vote

in which case his list is not egregious (mitchell over doncic tho...)

but also makes him a fucking moron given the responsibility he's given

[FrostKing]

Ofcourse employed by ESPN

[Extra Stout]

:lol why am I not surprised that idiot was mark jackson.
Question: in retrospect, given his work with the pre-dynastic Golden State Warriors, was Mark Jackson the worst coach in NBA history? I’m pretty sure I could have coached that lineup to a playoff berth.

[ambchang]

Question: in retrospect, given his work with the pre-dynastic Golden State Warriors, was Mark Jackson the worst coach in NBA history? I’m pretty sure I could have coached that lineup to a playoff berth.

Even then I was calling out how bad he was. I remember saying the warriors had championship potential and they got there the second he was gone and Kerr was in. Jackson was so stupid that he was still doing ancient iso ball when a motion offence was clearly what the warriors needed given it’s lineup.

[Obstructed_View]

He's clearly as poor a coach as he is a commentator and MVP voter.

[Extra Stout]

ESPN has any number of guys they could put next to Breen in the booth: Reddick, Rose, Butler, JWill, Cory. It’s time.

[Chris Fall]

ESPN has any number of guys they could put next to Breen in the booth: Reddick, Rose, Butler, JWill, Cory. It’s time.

They already have a good one. JVG. They don't need a 3 man team. Just eliminate Jackson. He's really, really bad.

[LkrFan]

Just across the skreet from AT&T Center in downtown San Antonio:

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Barkley was right :lol

[lebomb]

She put a big arse dent in the side of that car :rollin

[DeadlyDynasty]

They already have a good one. JVG. They don't need a 3 man team. Just eliminate Jackson. He's really, really bad.
Eliminate Jackson from public life entirely. He’s an embarrassment

[spurraider21]

Eliminate Jackson from public life entirely. He’s an embarrassment
really wanted the lakers to get him to be their coach. mostly to get him off the air

[lefty]

really wanted the lakers to get him to be their coach. mostly to get him off the air
He's a shite coach, he would be back on air quickly

[baseline bum]

Eliminate Jackson from public life entirely. He’s an embarrassment

I'll still never forget Mark Jackson spraying himself over scrub ass Eric Snow giving a speech where he just kept saying "Win or go home? Win or go home? What we gonna do?" as the Cavs were one quarter from getting swept in the 07 Finals. The whole team was ignoring him, looking at him like how are you going to give that speech when you're putting up 2PPG and we're playing our hearts out against a team with far superior talent? But of course Jackson is like give me that man anytime on my team.

[lefty]

:cry it still hurts

[Texas_Ranger]

Irving trying to bring LeBron to Dallas.

[MultiTroll]

Irving trying to bring LeBron to Dallas.
:lol What are the Mavs supposed to offer the Flamers?

Or is this just Kywie talk :cry I always want to get my way. :cry

[RC_Drunkford]

LeBron in Dallas would be funny. They wouldn't win shit either with him

[Robz4000]

Suns waived CP0

[lefty]

Suns waived CP0
lol

[leemajors]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/144m9mm/last_night_paul_pierce_showed_up_crazy_drunk_to_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
greatness

[MultiTroll]

Woj: Thunder trade several draft picks to Nuggets for protected 2029 first-round pick (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/woj-thunder-trade-several-draft-picks-to-nuggets-for-protected-2029-first-round-pick/ar-AA1clsf5)

TH was OKC supposedly gaining by this?

[TD 21]

Woj: Thunder trade several draft picks to Nuggets for protected 2029 first-round pick (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/woj-thunder-trade-several-draft-picks-to-nuggets-for-protected-2029-first-round-pick/ar-AA1clsf5)

TH was OKC supposedly gaining by this?

They have to start consolidating some of their picks since it'll be impossible to roster them all, so they're taking a stab that in 6 years time, maybe the Nuggets fall apart or have an injury plagued season and they get a high pick (pending protections) out of it.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/99c2QM4/porzingis-celtics.jpg

[MultiTroll]

Name That Heat Player

OnlyFans Model Exposes Miami Heat Player Over Threesome (totalprosports.com) (https://www.totalprosports.com/nba/miami-heat-onlyfans-hayley-murders-threesome/)

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/6DQ0p0G/Screenshot-20230626-003107-Chrome.png

Disappointing. Be an Alpha like Haaland.

Rather spend my summers in Italia anyway

[RC_Drunkford]

Celtics just needed a white guy, it's part of their culture

[MultiTroll]

ATL Collins to Jazz for Rudy Gay.

Wow. Rudy still pullin a good paycheck.

[FrostKing]

NBA needs a Cap. So many horrific contracts

[lefty]

:lmao Rockets

[Killakobe81]

:lmao Rockets

Might be the dumbest FA signing since Mozgof and Deng
Yea they needed toughness and vet leadership but Brooks phony AF

[Killakobe81]

And he sucks too

[horseshue]

:lmao Rockets

Collecting all the retards and headcases. But i'm happy for fred. :tu

[Arcadian]

When did Brandon Miller become the consensus 2nd place prospect, and why? For the entire last year, everybody had Scoot going 2nd, and then it just randomly shifted shortly before the draft. And...that was probably the wrong move, lol.

[Seventyniner]

When did Brandon Miller become the consensus 2nd place prospect, and why? For the entire last year, everybody had Scoot going 2nd, and then it just randomly shifted shortly before the draft. And...that was probably the wrong move, lol.

Blame MJ. GOAT player but perhaps the worst drafter ever. Brandon Miller joins a long line of stupid picks with Kwame Brown, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Adam Morrison.

https://sports.yahoo.com/michael-jordan-will-reportedly-have-final-say-on-hornets-no-2-pick-despite-selling-team-last-week-182909354.html

[Obstructed_View]

When did Brandon Miller become the consensus 2nd place prospect, and why? For the entire last year, everybody had Scoot going 2nd, and then it just randomly shifted shortly before the draft. And...that was probably the wrong move, lol.

What's even more puzzling is that ESPN cannot stay off his jock. Even when he was playing badly they were talking him up and showing his highlights.

[spurraider21]

When did Brandon Miller become the consensus 2nd place prospect, and why? For the entire last year, everybody had Scoot going 2nd, and then it just randomly shifted shortly before the draft. And...that was probably the wrong move, lol.
he never became consensus #2

most people still said scoot was the better player but expected the hornets to prioritize fit over BPA. they didnt want scoot because they already had Ball at the point, etc

[horseshue]

https://twitter.com/shaqtin/status/1680035685384982529
:lol I think this man's NBA career is over.

[140]

https://twitter.com/shaqtin/status/1680035685384982529
:lol I think this man's NBA career is over.
the guy who "scored" is the one who got it right (eventually). basically all 10 players plus refs had a collective brainfart and were playing on the wrong side of the court for a moment :lol it wasnt even supposed to be mavs possession to begin with

[FrostKing]

What's even more puzzling is that ESPN cannot stay off his jock. Even when he was playing badly they were talking him up and showing his highlights.
Might be the SEC angle. Top3 picks you have a foreigner and guy from G-League. ESPN has big investment in CBB especially womens.

[Obstructed_View]

Might be the SEC angle. Top3 picks you have a foreigner and guy from G-League. ESPN has big investment in CBB especially womens.
Yeah they wouldn't be ESPN if they weren't sucking off and overrating everything SEC.

[Texas_Ranger]

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[ambchang]

Oh prayers to the boy.

[timtonymanu]

Damn.. that sucks

[Thread]

Blame MJ. GOAT player but perhaps the worst drafter ever. Brandon Miller joins a long line of stupid picks with Kwame Brown, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Adam Morrison.

Morrison went back-to-back, 7.

[Thread]

Oh prayers to the boy.

His old man will finally be forced to take a break from his 24/7/365 race hustling duties...or, will he?..."My son is important. The Lakers, they are important to me. But I must be first and foremost dedicated to my race, no, not the human race, but the Black race. Therefore I've received consent from Brony to split my time twixt him and race hust, I mean race relatio...no, no, I mean race hustling. They hustled White race, so its only equitable that I hustle Black race. Now? Where was I?" - LeBron James

[Thread]

Oh prayers to the boy.

amb!!! Sweetheart!!!!!! Pumpkinpuss!!!!!!!!!

[Thread]

Yeah they wouldn't be ESPN if they weren't sucking off and overrating everything SEC.

That's all that's left, O_V.

[ambchang]

His old man will finally be forced to take a break from his 24/7/365 race hustling duties...or, will he?..."My son is important. The Lakers, they are important to me. But I must be first and foremost dedicated to my race, no, not the human race, but the Black race. Therefore I've received consent from Brony to split my time twixt him and race hust, I mean race relatio...no, no, I mean race hustling. They hustled White race, so its only equitable that I hustle Black race. Now? Where was I?" - LeBron James

Come on man. His big just had a cardiac arrest and all you can think of is race?

Imagine if Donald Jr got hiv and people brings up sr and talk about him being a racist, his wood you feel? Oh wait, all of the Donald Jrs are grown up assholes. Nevermind.

[ambchang]

amb!!! Sweetheart!!!!!! Pumpkinpuss!!!!!!!!!

How have you been? Read the news abou Phoenix breaking all kinds of heat records. How are you holding up? Don’t die of a heat stroke alright?

[Thread]

Come on man. His big just had a cardiac arrest and all you can think of is race?

Imagine if Donald Jr got hiv and people brings up sr and talk about him being a racist, his wood you feel? Oh wait, all of the Donald Jrs are grown up assholes. Nevermind.

That's how it's/race been done for 5 years, amb. We ain't goin' back, ever. It's my religion.

Your side had nary problem back in January/'17 gathering the National Security Team for Trump's arrival after getting sworn and threatened to have the White House bombed. Clapper, head of the gaggle..."Uh, sir, we have a report that you were getting pissed on by Russian women in Russia, uh, sir."

..."With lies you may go forward in life, but you may never go back."

We ain't ever goin' back, amb.

[Thread]

How have you been? Read the news abou Phoenix breaking all kinds of heat records. How are you holding up? Don’t die of a heat stroke alright?

No problem. The wife fled to Flagstaff to summer in up there, but as long as I don't have to suffer humidity and I'm at sea level I'm great.

[ambchang]

That's how it's/race been done for 5 years, amb. We ain't goin' back, ever. It's my religion.

Your side had nary problem back in January/'17 gathering the National Security Team for Trump's arrival after getting sworn and threatened to have the White House bombed. Clapper, head of the gaggle..."Uh, sir, we have a report that you were getting pissed on by Russian women in Russia, uh, sir."

..."With lies you may go forward in life, but you may never go back."

We ain't ever goin' back, amb.

Now you’re just making stuff up. Not a surprise though.


No problem. The wife fled to Flagstaff to summer in up there, but as long as I don't have to suffer humidity and I'm at sea level I'm great.

Well hang in there. I’m sure trump will make it all better.

[Thread]

Now you’re just making stuff up. Not a surprise though.



Well hang in there. I’m sure trump will make it all better.

He made it all better when he made President. Drove your side absolutely nutty-nuts. Changed the entire paradigm. You went off your nut on-the-spot. We're tore up & apart and this time we're stayin' that way.

[ambchang]

He made it all better when he made President. Drove your side absolutely nutty-nuts. Changed the entire paradigm. You went off your nut on-the-spot. We're tore up & apart and this time we're stayin' that way.

He showed me something my grade 10 teacher taught me, democracy only works on an educated population.

[Obstructed_View]

Now you’re just making stuff up. Not a surprise though.



democracy only works on an educated population.
Lol

[Thread]

He showed me something my grade 10 teacher taught me, democracy only works on an educated population.

& your side made damn sure he was met by democracy. Your side threatened to blow the White House the day he moved into it.
& your side threatened to shoot him to death the last day he was in the White House..."We have the guns, not him!" - Gen. Milley.

You wouldn't just set still and give him the 4 years. Nope. You (resisted) him on-the-spot.
You burn't down the upper Western seaboard because Trump was President.

It'd been comin' though slow but sure since Eisenhower left. Trump making President like that was the last straw.

[ambchang]

& your side made damn sure he was met by democracy. Your side threatened to blow the White House the day he moved into it.
& your side threatened to shoot him to death the last day he was in the White House..."We have the guns, not him!" - Gen. Milley.

You wouldn't just set still and give him the 4 years. Nope. You (resisted) him on-the-spot.
You burn't down the upper Western seaboard because Trump was President.

It'd been comin' though slow but sure since Eisenhower left. Trump making President like that was the last straw.

Only one group rushed it though.

[Thread]

Only one group rushed it though.

You wouldn't take the loss, you still can't. You want to see the convictions, sure, but you'd give up everything you own to have see him kneel and beg. I'd give everything I own that he not do that.

I told him one time when we were on the Twitter that he'd never look back and find me not there, that I'd be there, no matter what. You know what he, the President of the United States did, amb? That man, "followed me"...The President of the United States "followed me."

I screamed for the wife..."What, what now, Dale? The Suns win? You lost a dollar in the street?"

"Look..."

[ambchang]

You wouldn't take the loss, you still can't. You want to see the convictions, sure, but you'd give up everything you own to have see him kneel and beg. I'd give everything I own that he not do that.

I told him one time when we were on the Twitter that he'd never look back and find me not there, that I'd be there, no matter what. You know what he, the President of the United States did, amb? That man, "followed me"...The President of the United States "followed me."

I screamed for the wife..."What, what now, Dale? The Suns win? You lost a dollar in the street?"

"Look..."

Didn’t see him as a follower but there you have it.

[Rummpd]

180 million and change to all time quitter (on Pelicans) Davis. Pays to stink in WCF too

[Chris Fall]

Davis wasn't great in the WCF. Had a really good game 1. But definitely got outplayed. But I wouldn't say he stunk. Just wasn't as good as Joker.

There are losers like KAT and Brad Beal on $200+ million contracts. Jaylen Brown just got $300M. It pays to be in the NBA and put up numbers, whether you win or not, whether you're a quitter or not.

Probably a good deal for the Lakers. WTF else were they going to do?

[NASpurs]

$60 million per year at 50 games per season... dude is robbing the Lakers blind. Amazing.

[baseline bum]

Ouch $62 million a year for Street Clothes is rough

[MultiTroll]

Cavs PG Ricky Rubio to pause career, focus on mental health - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38138955/cavs-pg-ricky-rubio-pause-career-focus-mental-health)

[Thread]

Didn’t see him as a follower but there you have it.

Don't be purposely obtuse, amb. It'd be like your favorite person (following) you, amb. You may not come in here and blast it, but you'd be thrilled no end.

[Thread]

Cavs PG Ricky Rubio to pause career, focus on mental health - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38138955/cavs-pg-ricky-rubio-pause-career-focus-mental-health)

He soldiered here, and they treated him kindly till Paul showed up and then it was bye-bye Rubio, get lost. I could never understand why they couldn't a kept both, have a sit with 'em side-by-side and implore them to be a duo, that it could lead to a title run, a title possession, but, that did-not-happen. You can lead a horse to water,,,but...

[ambchang]

Don't be purposely obtuse, amb. It'd be like your favorite person (following) you, amb. You may not come in here and blast it, but you'd be thrilled no end.

I’d be blasting it if you start following me.

[Thread]

I’d be blasting it if you start following me.


I do follow you, you're about the only one left of the loyal opposition that ain't got me on an ignore list.

[ambchang]

I do follow you, you're about the only one left of the loyal opposition that ain't got me on an ignore list.

Time to blast.

Honestly, your stuff could be hilarious sometimes but when you get on your hissing fit and start spamming the same crap over and over again it gets tiresome.

[lefty]

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[Texas_Ranger]

BREAKING: The Portland Trail Blazers are trading guard Damian Lillard to the Milwaukee Bucks, sources tell ESPN.

[Chris Fall]

Looks like a 3 team deal with Phoenix.

Jrue, Ayton, pick and pick swaps to Portland.

Nurkic, Little and Grayson Allen to Phoenix.

[ambchang]

I think Portland won this. The bucks got worse and is just desperate to appease Giannis. Phoenix got rid of Ayton without tacking on extra assets but Portland got Jrue who they can trade for extra picks (Miami, seriously), picks and Ayton, which they should be fine with because they got rid of nurkic and should have cap room now.

[Thread]

Looks like a 3 team deal with Phoenix.

Jrue, Ayton, pick and pick swaps to Portland.

Nurkic, Little and Grayson Allen to Phoenix.

Wow, I'd bet my bottom dollar they'd a not parted with Ayton out of sheer stubbornness. I-am-stunned.

I ain't been over on that Suns Board in a coon's age. I'll have to go over now.

They're over there and the lion's share ain't happy.

[Jeremy]

Wow, I'd bet my bottom dollar they'd a not parted with Ayton out of sheer stubbornness. I-am-stunned.

I ain't been over on that Suns Board in a coon's age. I'll have to go over now.

They're over there and the lion's share ain't happy.

It’s a horrible trade. I was not in favor of trading Ayton, anyway, but you don’t make a trade like that just to appease possible infighting. Just make Booker and him play together even if they hate each other—it worked for Kobe and Shaq to the tune of three championships.

[Hank Scorpio]

Would rather have Jrue than Lillard if I was a contender. Crucify me all you want

[lefty]

Would rather have Jrue than Lillard if I was a contender. Crucify me all you want

yeah Dame is the superior offensive player but overall Jrue is a big game player who will do everything to win you a game, big shots, clutch D etc

But I do understand the move from Bucks’ perspective, considering Middleton seems to be injury prone

[spurraider21]

It’s a horrible trade. I was not in favor of trading Ayton, anyway, but you don’t make a trade like that just to appease possible infighting. Just make Booker and him play together even if they hate each other—it worked for Kobe and Shaq to the tune of three championships.
i think for phoenix it was also just a way to create flexibility. you can move these player/salaries piece-meal as opposed to having to move a single 35 mil player if they do decide to change things up

i do think this deal makes them worse on the court right now, though

[Hank Scorpio]

Wow, I'd bet my bottom dollar they'd a not parted with Ayton out of sheer stubbornness. I-am-stunned.

I ain't been over on that Suns Board in a coon's age. I'll have to go over now.

They're over there and the lion's share ain't happy.

Link?

[Jeremy]

i think for phoenix it was also just a way to create flexibility. you can move these player/salaries piece-meal as opposed to having to move a single 35 mil player if they do decide to change things up

i do think this deal makes them worse on the court right now, though

Exactly, and we're trying to win a championship. It's not a time to make the team worse by worrying about flexibility or saving money next summer.

[Thread]

Link?


https://arizonasports.com/story/3450625/suns-trade-deandre-ayton-blazers-damian-lillard-bucks/?show=comments#comments

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I'm -CactiTrio-

[Thread]

Exactly, and we're trying to win a championship. It's not a time to make the team worse by worrying about flexibility or saving money next summer.

Booker wanted him out, J.
And Booker has failed in the playoffs repeatedly as had Ayton.

[Jeremy]

Booker wanted him out, J.
And Booker has failed in the playoffs repeatedly as had Ayton.

He may have, yes. But that doesn’t mean you let him control the front office decisions.

“O'Neal regularly expressed to management that he did not believe the team could win a championship with Bryant.” What did LA do? They told him to shut up and they won three championships.

I truly believe we’re never going to win a championship, Cubby. Lol. Every time we get within inches of it, there’s either bad luck or self-sabotage, or both.

[Thread]

He may have, yes. But that doesn’t mean you let him control the front office decisions.

“O'Neal regularly expressed to management that he did not believe the team could win a championship with Bryant.” What did LA do? They told him to shut up and they won three championships.

I truly believe we’re never going to win a championship, Cubby. Lol. Every time we get within inches of it, there’s either bad luck or self-sabotage, or both.

I can't conjure up another base that needs it to the point that yours does. Many of your legion have passed on, probably damn near every charter member. I cannot imagine that portion of misery and total denial.

& we'll know by New Years whether it's highly probable, that you possess the control to end it come June.

And if it occurs I'll bear witness the "once upon a times," & the tears.

[Hank Scorpio]

https://arizonasports.com/story/3450625/suns-trade-deandre-ayton-blazers-damian-lillard-bucks/?show=comments#comments

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I'm -CactiTrio-

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[FrostKing]

Heat fans in state of melancholy

[Ghazi]

Why is it a bad trade for Phoenix? Isnt Ayton ass?

[Thread]

Why is it a bad trade for Phoenix? Isnt Ayton ass?

Because I want it to be.

[MultiTroll]

Apemond Green out with sprained ankle till 1st couple weeks of Nov.

[ambchang]

^ did he kick the wall after a teammate hurt his feelings?

[Thread]

^ did he kick the wall after a teammate hurt his feelings?

They've already had Portland media on Phoenix radio 98.7FM numerous times since the trade, in order to judge the trade good for Phoenix and "troublesome" for Portland. (They're) waiting on him to crack up there. Then their media, the media here in Phoenix and MSM will bum rush him to the tree of woe...Silver..."Crucify him."

[lefty]

Jrue to Boston. according to Shams

[InRareForm]

Expensive deal but I get it

[lefty]

Better defender than Marcus Smart

[Thread]

^ did he kick the wall after a teammate hurt his feelings?

No, he took a spat of umbrage when they repeatedly tried to nail 'em up here in Phoenix with the blessing & coordination of local media and a turn of the back (while the lynching was taking place) by MSM in New York and points East. I'm sure Portland will take the handoff like shaved pussy and frog march his Black ass up the 13 steps onto their own scaffolding.

[Thread]

Better defender than Marcus Smart

...& not a race hustler extraordinaire like Smart.

[Darth_Pelican]

Heat fans in state of melancholy

and the infinite sadness

https://townsquare.media/site/366/files/2023/10/attachment-jimmy_butler_emo.jpg?w=980&q=75

[MultiTroll]

Gay on the Warriors. :lol

[Cry Havoc]

Harden no-showed to shootaround this morning. :lmao

Sixers gonna be a first round exit this season.

[koriwhat]

Harden no-showed to shootaround this morning. :lmao

Sixers gonna be a first round exit this season.

Can you imagine getting paid millions upon millions to play a child's game yet you pout over not getting your way while also signing on the dotted line? Man Harden is a dramaqueen to the max and needs to be exiled already from the league.

[Thread]

Can you imagine getting paid millions upon millions to play a child's game yet you pout over not getting your way while also signing on the dotted line? Man Harden is a dramaqueen to the max and needs to be exiled already from the league.

He's worse than Iverson, but, not by much.

[Raven]

after i don't know how many seasons, i still don't get why dbust gets starters minutes in the nba. guys is just bad to below average at everything.

[MultiTroll]

Zinger is off to a hot start with Boston Game 1.

[baseline bum]

Will Hunting man, did you see Det Nigga Drummond break Chet's ankles last night? :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QBtOU23Ll8

[lefty]

Some good games so far to start the season tbh

[MultiTroll]

Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) man, did you see Det Nigga Drummond break Chet's ankles last night? :lol
Thought Chet blew out his foot / ankle again.

[JohnnyMax]

"It's been a long time, looking forward to hoopin against arguably the best ever"- KD



https://youtube.com/watch?v=0VpoeNGpAsA

[Cry Havoc]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/17i2s8m/highlight_isaac_okoro_gets_elbowed_in_the_face_is/?ref=share&ref_source=link

Holy shit the NBA refs are atrocious this season. They seem to get worse every year.

[FrostKing]

Bad start to the season

Overshadowed by other sports and Game2, stars already sitting.

Hype will build but I'm surprised this is one of the least pimped season starts since Covid.

[lefty]

Bad start to the season

Overshadowed by other sports and Game2, stars already sitting.

Hype will build but I'm surprised this is one of the least pimped season starts since Covid.

Playoffs should be great this year but I’m not wasting my time on the regular season

[MultiTroll]

LoL SpurFan that says they wouldn't want Lebron compared to this current list of scrubs.

[Spurminator]

Jason Kidd says he can't find minutes for Jaden Hardy but Derrick Jones Jr. is a starter.

Dude is an idiot. Mavs are wasting Luka's prime with Kidd running the team.

[MultiTroll]

Bulls fold in the last 2 minutes vs the Mavs.
Was tied.

What was that?

[Spurminator]

Jason Kidd says he can't find minutes for Jaden Hardy but Derrick Jones Jr. is a starter.

Dude is an idiot. Mavs are wasting Luka's prime with Kidd running the team.

This take may not age well. I'm already coming around on Jones, but glad Hardy's finally getting some minutes now too.

[Thread]

You all did it again---tonight here in the Valley. Just like old times!!!

If they die on vine before Xmas that fuck interloper from Detroit ain't gonna look so damn good then.

Wemby with 38.

[baseline bum]

You all did it again---tonight here in the Valley. Just like old times!!!

If they die on vine before Xmas that fuck interloper from Detroit ain't gonna look so damn good then.

Wemby with 38.

Nailing Phoenix to the Tree of Woe never gets old cubby

[Thread]

Nailing Phoenix to the Tree of Woe never gets old cubby

Amen.

They ain't got a decent big man on the whole damn team.

And now that WS is over, the radio crews will have to talk about it...and Dale is gonna be there listening. Both eyes on this site, one ear on the radio, the other ear listening for the ice cream man comin' down the street.

[MultiTroll]

Mavs @ Nuggs
Golden Phags @ Thunder

Should both be interesting.

[baseline bum]

ROFL JJ Reddick shitting on the Clippers on tonight's broadcast


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTk6lGA-faw

[MultiTroll]

Blazers over Grizzleys in OT was def entertaining.
Shaedon Sharpe ya i see why some of ST wanted him.

These teams both make plays but wow are they low IQ often.
That phaggot from Boston thats now on the Grizz still trys his flopping ish in attempt to induce calls. :lol

[Thread]

Blazers over Grizzleys in OT was def entertaining.
Shaedon Sharpe ya i see why some of ST wanted him.

These teams both make plays but wow are they low IQ often.
That phaggot from Boston thats now on the Grizz still trys his flopping ish in attempt to induce calls. :lol

...you got some fuckin' nerve calling out anybody for flopping after Gino did it to your cheers and love.

You make me sick.

[Rummpd]

...you got some fuckin' nerve calling out anybody for flopping after Gino did it to your cheers and love.

You make me sick.

LOL Lakers empty stats for James and AD (although 7 blocks impressive) in bad loss to Magic.

[djohn2oo8]

Ime really has Dillon brooks playing decently

[Thread]

LOL Lakers empty stats for James and AD (although 7 blocks impressive) in bad loss to Magic.

Well, we're stuck with that SOB James. He'll play a few more years, then he'll coach a few more years, then he'll GM a few more then, he'll own a sizable piece for a few more years, then he'll emeritus for the rest of his fuckin' years, all the while leading that fuck's corpse from up in Minnesota,,,Minnesota Floyd around with him baitin' & hustlin' race all the years. At least that waste of a space didn't get any of that $27 million windfall.

& of course LA sports media doesn't dare say a discouraging word about said "bad loss to Magic." Not on your life they don't. "It was just a wonderment to see LeBron still at near top of his game. Wow. Just wow. And it doesn't matter if he rings this season. His place in the pantheon is set and secure, especially after championing the cause of George Floyd, activist, freedom fighter, and bell cow for his family, who rushed to Minnesota from all over the world to see George "into the dust that is always the end" and to partake of whacking up that $27 million windfall and dabble in a bit of the criminal element of Los Angeles."

Impossible to teach old crime dogs new tricks.

[Tyronn Lue]

:lol draymond getting kicked in the nuts, payback is a bitch

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/Kb7gHyb/Screenshot-20231105-223011-Chrome.png

Da Bulls 2-5 start with veteran roster. Brutal but whatever we are just another franchise in purgatory.

[MultiTroll]

Nuggs looking solid.
Don't see anyone challenging them for a Chip, but long way to go of course.

[Thread]

https://i.ibb.co/Kb7gHyb/Screenshot-20231105-223011-Chrome.png

Da Bulls 2-5 start with veteran roster. Brutal but whatever we are just another franchise in purgatory.

I was counting on you to handle the Suns upcoming. Act like somebody!!!

[LkrFan]

1721930114831925367

:)

[Texas_Ranger]

1721930114831925367

:)

with this retard Sochan and the worst coach in the NBA its surprising there's not more.

[ambchang]

I’m surprised there were two other teams.

[djohn2oo8]

Rockets absolutely must make these uniforms a regular

[MultiTroll]

Nuggets almost blowing it to pathetic Golden Phaggots.
Joker with b2b turnover and then missed 2 FTs.

Lil phaggot Curry missed a basically uncontested 7 foot scoop layup. LOL.

[lefty]

chokurry back ion the menu

[Thread]

Bulls fold in the last 2 minutes vs the Mavs.
Was tied.

What was that?

And the Bulls folded again last night versus these fuckin' Suns. I didn't have the balls to watch it...just found the final score and immediately beat the wife.

[MultiTroll]

Greek Freak hasn't sucked this bad in a closing 4th Qtr since i dont know when.

Bucks just handed a comfortable lead and game to Pacers.

[MultiTroll]

Sad how many NBA teams with a lead will not do the absolute most basic, fundamental stuff to close out a game when leading.

Just was Orlando absolutely give the game away to ATL.

When you're ahead by 2+ points do not give up a three point attempt. Unless you contest the hell out of it without fouling.

[Thread]

Sad how many NBA teams with a lead will not do the absolute most basic, fundamental stuff to close out a game when leading.

Just was Orlando absolutely give the game away to ATL.

When you're ahead by 2+ points do not give up a three point attempt. Unless you contest the hell out of it without fouling.

It's a White & Black thing. White wants them to do the "fundamental stuff to close out a game when leading." It's as simple as 1,2,3.

It's a Black thing to deny White their thing. It's as simple as 1,2,3.

That's why it was quite a decision for James to take that 17th Ring down from the shelf back a few years. Floyd was still warm in is grave, etc. That LeBron stood and debated whether to take it and give White their want, or, leave it there, turn on his heals, saunter to a live mic and call us everything but White people. Instead, yes, he took it down, but then sent the Black bitches onto talks shows to call us everything but White people.

That fuck, James, he don't miss a fuckin' trick. I'd trade that bastard straight across for him on that California hillside, include that 17th, for Kobe & his child back. & I'd never look back.

[MultiTroll]

It's a White & Black thing. White wants them to do the "fundamental stuff to close out a game when leading." It's as simple as 1,2,3.

It's a Black thing to deny White their thing. It's as simple as 1,2,3.

That's why it was quite a decision for James to take that 17th Ring down from the shelf back a few years. Floyd was still warm in is grave, etc. That LeBron stood and debated whether to take it and give White their want, or, leave it there, turn on his heals, saunter to a live mic and call us everything but White people. Instead, yes, he took it down, but then sent the Black bitches onto talks shows to call us everything but White people.

That fuck, James, he don't miss a fuckin' trick. I'd trade that bastard straight across for him on that California hillside, include that 17th, for Kobe & his child back. & I'd never look back.
Hardly.
2013 your world about to be rocked.
Enter Craig White Bread Popplevich to blow a 6 point lead. Twice.

Italian media guy: "Think about not giving up the three there?"
Arrogant Popped' "We don't do that over here,"

[Thread]

Hardly.
2013 your world about to be rocked.
Enter Craig White Bread Popplevich to blow a 6 point lead. Twice.

Italian media guy: "Think about not giving up the three there?"
Arrogant Popped' "We don't do that over here,"

...just like he don't take hand downs out a New York. He's got Wem's but now I hear he's fuckin' around with it. That's (old) emanating out of him, mixed with denial..."I am not going to be bullied into making this kid into another Duncan. I will not do it, damn 'em all?"

The stupid ass.

[Thread]

The Lakers came into town last night and left the Suns, precisely where they found 'em. The boys are madder than wet hens over on the Phoenix site.

[Texas_Ranger]

lol Clippers, losing at home to fucking Memphis.

[MultiTroll]

lol Clippers, losing at home to fucking Memphis.
Harden team low by far -28
If we know him he played zero defense.

1-7 on treys.

What an idiotic move by Balmer.

[MultiTroll]

Watching the Golden Phaggots lose and whine never gets old. :rollin
:corn:

Rudy Goober w 5 blocks.

[lefty]

Watching the Golden Phaggots lose and whine never gets old. :rollin
:corn:

Rudy Goober w 5 blocks.
2nd consecutive home loss :lol
:lol gaymond ejected in the previous, lost to the Cavs….again

[lefty]

Also Antman doesn’t like them :lol

https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1723913896577077442?s=12

[MultiTroll]

Also Antman doesn’t like them :lol

https://twitter.com/big_business_/status/1723913896577077442?s=12
I dunno about engaging with the head chimp.
But if Edwards can take it to them, great.

Celtic pussies did basketball a grave disservice with their 3-2 puss out in 22. Now casual phan actually rates the ABC Disney Warriors with real NBA Champs.

[Barfunk]

:lol Lakers 37 FTA vs Blazers 9 FTA. Lakers win by 6.

[Thread]

:lol Lakers 37 FTA vs Blazers 9 FTA. Lakers win by 6.

Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating, funkster.

[Thread]

And the Bulls folded again last night versus these fuckin' Suns. I didn't have the balls to watch it...just found the final score and immediately beat the wife.

OKC came in here last night and cleaned the Suns clock, bustin' their hole in the 4th and leaving the Suns where the Lakers left 'em; dead in the ground.

It takes some of the hurt of the Cardinals winning their game, the fucks.

[Barfunk]

Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating, funkster.

:lol

[ambchang]

Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating, funkster.

It was the polling machines.

[Thread]

It was the polling machines.

It was the bombs & the swords & the guns.

Ipso facto it was American Democracy, amb.

[ambchang]

It was the bombs & the swords & the guns.

Ipso facto it was American Democracy, amb.

Officials screwing up the polling machines, you say.

[Thread]

Officials screwing up the polling machines, you say.

American Democracy.

[ambchang]

American Democracy.

The greatest democracy there is. If you don’t take the democracy we will instigate a coup to over throw your dictatorship, unless your dictatorship is with us of course.

[Thread]

The greatest democracy there is. If you don’t take the democracy we will instigate a coup to over throw your dictatorship, unless your dictatorship is with us of course.

You went first, amb..."We don't want the winner Trump. We will threaten him with bombs to blow him and his family up, swords to cut his head off, and guns to shoot him to death. Once he is out of office we'll conduct ourselves in a democratic fashion, but not until."

You tore us up & apart, and son, we're staying that way ever more.

[ambchang]

You went first, amb..."We don't want the winner Trump. We will threaten him with bombs to blow him and his family up, swords to cut his head off, and guns to shoot him to death. Once he is out of office we'll conduct ourselves in a democratic fashion, but not until."

You tore us up & apart, and son, we're staying that way ever more.

So fiction is your game?

[Thread]

So fiction is your game?

Just because there is nobody in the forest to hear when a tree falls doesn't make the fall silent.

P.S., get your fuckin' Spurs straightened out. I'll need 'em for the next few years. Chop/chop.

[ambchang]

Just because there is nobody in the forest to hear when a tree falls doesn't make the fall silent.

P.S., get your fuckin' Spurs straightened out. I'll need 'em for the next few years. Chop/chop.

The dems never stormed the capital.

And ditto for spurs. So frustrating.

[Thread]

The dems never stormed the capital.

And ditto for spurs. So frustrating.

No, but they threatened to cut President Trump's head off and blow up the White House the day he moved in with his wife and child.

[ambchang]

No, but they threatened to cut President Trump's head off and blow up the White House the day he moved in with his wife and child.

Really? That I missed. Who did?

[Thread]

Really? That I missed. Who did?

Yeah, really...

Madonna threatened to blow up the White House as he was driving over there day 1.
That Harris chick out of CNN threatened to cut his head off.
General Milley threatened to shoot him to death on his last day as President.
Snoop threatened to shoot him to death early on.
Depp too threatened to shoot him to death as well.

All because he'd made President.

[MultiTroll]

Really? That I missed. Who did?
Dale is frightened by Hollywood celebrities.

[MultiTroll]

Seeing OKC beat the Golden Phaggots was most satisfying.
Even if Curry was out.

Klanus whining for phantom calls per par.
Kerr getting emotional / hormonal.

I like how OKC plays.
Their coach is so much better then Popped.

[ambchang]

Yeah, really...

Madonna threatened to blow up the White House as he was driving over there day 1.
That Harris chick out of CNN threatened to cut his head off.
General Milley threatened to shoot him to death on his last day as President.
Snoop threatened to shoot him to death early on.
Depp too threatened to shoot him to death as well.

All because he'd made President.

Did they? More importantly did they inspire others to do so? Like you know, storm the white house?

[Thread]

Did they? More importantly did they inspire others to do so? Like you know, storm the white house?

amb, gettin' his obtuse on.

[Thread]

Seeing OKC beat the Golden Phaggots was most satisfying.
Even if Curry was out.

Klanus whining for phantom calls per par.
Kerr getting emotional / hormonal.

I like how OKC plays.
Their coach is so much better then Popped.

Pop is old & sodded.

[ambchang]

amb, gettin' his obtuse on.

I would argue it’s the other way around.

[Thread]

I would argue it’s the other way around.

Now you're making like my fart catcher.

[MultiTroll]

:lol ST Lebron haters.

37/6/8 as they beat the Rockets by 1.

[Barfunk]

Lakers really showing their prowess at the line this season thus far: 29 FTA to the Rockets 10 FTA as the Lakers win by 1. Lebron ageless as well.

[Thread]

Lakers really showing their prowess at the line this season thus far: 29 FTA to the Rockets 10 FTA as the Lakers win by 1. Lebron ageless as well.


Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating, funkster.

[MultiTroll]

Dame Lilard doing what he was paid to do.
Sure Greek Freak appreciates not having to carry the whole load as past 2 seasons.

Middleton i thought was washed but he put in a key bucket down the stretch. I think his D is declined tho. Can't see a Championship with him playing big minutes.

[MultiTroll]

Never thought i'd see the day the Golden Phaggots threw the ending of a game.
I think they just did.

[MultiTroll]

Doncic and woman recently had a baby.

[Raven]

lol 140+points half for a "playoff game"

[lefty]

lol 140+points half for a "playoff game"

and?

[Raven]

and?

and it proves once again that the level of competition or what we really mean, how much teams don't defend and blindly chuck threes, depends only on the rules and nothing on whether they play for something special or not.

[lefty]

and it proves once again that the level of competition or what we really mean, how much teams don't defend and blindly chuck threes, depends only on the rules and nothing on whether they play for something special or not.

Interesting because there were actual playoff/Finals games back in the good ol' days with as many points

And that was without that many good 3 point shooters so it's even worse, because it means more FG's / 2 point chucking to get there

[Raven]

Interesting because there were actual playoff/Finals games back in the good ol' days with as many points

And that was without that many good 3 point shooters so it's even worse, because it means more FG's / 2 point chucking to get there
like when?

[lefty]

like when?
Game 2 of the 87 Finals, L's and C's combined for 243, which is 131.5 pts per half, Lakers scored 141 pts on one the best defensive teams at the time

They also combined for 262 pts in game 1 of the 85 Finals so 13 pts per half

L's and Nuggets in 1985 WCF G1, 262 pts combined (Laker deop 153 pts :lol)

Spurs and Nuggets combined for 285 points in a 1983 playoff game, so did NY and the Celtics in 1990 - so 142.5 pts per half :lol

[MultiTroll]

Denver looks.....not nearly as hungry as last year.

Clipps game last night was a close contest and they just looked out of sync on key possessions.

We'll see if they are just cruising and can flip the switch at playoff time or not.

Perhaps Murray still working his way back.
He got outplayed by -gasp- Beardo. Esp in the clutch.

[FrostKing]

Haven't tuned into NBA yet this season. Probably at some point in 2024

Nuggets, Bucks duo, Luka, the Celtics/Warriors. Only story lines that interest me. Everything else I can just read a headline. Little point of keeping up to see how the regular season plays out.

[Robz4000]

Kyrie Irving dieded.

[djohn2oo8]

Dillon Brooks and FVV actual decent signings

[Thebesteva]

LOL 3-18

[MultiTroll]

Bulls are very scrappy, I'll give them that.

Lots of drama but Bucks finally prevailed in OT.

[MultiTroll]

32 FTs for Greek Freak.

Were they deserving as Pacers had no answer or was that some Kirby Bryant level chit?

[Texas_Ranger]

32 FTs for Greek Freak.

Were they deserving as Pacers had no answer or was that some Kirby Bryant level chit?

Just like with embiid, 3/4 of the fts are whatever. Best part was him crying about the game ball. Didnt know this guy was such a child... also, its so good to watch him play outside the nba, where he doesnt get these pussy calls and he becomes useless, cause he pretty much cant do anything other than run and dunk.

[SAtown]

Lakers :lmao

[MultiTroll]

Golden Phaggots won late on a couple Curry shots.

That's ok. Screw up their draft pick. Middle of the road.

[MultiTroll]

LiL Phaggot Curry loses the ball out of bounds with 6 seconds left. WarriorRef awards ball to Warriors.
Replays clear, 100 off Curry.
115-114.

[TimDunkem]

Playing a G-league game and the same night - on the orders of your teenage prostitute ex - murder her sex worker friend with an HDMI cord and leaving her in the desert, then playing another game the next day like nothing happened is some wild shit.

Former NBA G league player admits he and ex killed woman in Las Vegas

https://www.wrtv.com/former-nba-g-league-player-admits-he-and-ex-killed-woman-in-las-vegas (https://www.wymt.com/2023/12/19/ex-nba-g-league-player-girlfriend-set-up-paid-sex-appointment-lure-victim-before-killing-her-police-say/?outputType=amp)

[sickdsm]

My god Embiid is unwatchable. I assumed wolves were going to have the frontcourt in foul trouble with the free throw merchant but all three big men have 2 fouls in the first quarter. He's whining to the refs every single possession begging for a foul call.

[InRareForm]

Kawhi moving with good speed and footwork. Just dominated the Mavs in 4th

[MultiTroll]

Why do Tatum and the Celtics turn into such massive vaginas vs Golden State?

[horseshue]

Why do Tatum and the Celtics turn into such massive vaginas vs Golden State?

Because that's who they are. Tatum and brown are fake superstars.

[lefty]

Also because coach Mazozo is terrible and kept calling ISO’s when it wasn’t working against GS’s zone defense

[MultiTroll]

Also because coach Mazozo is terrible and kept calling ISO’s when it wasn’t working against GS’s zone defense
After overhyped Ime handed them the Chip with his pampering of Kirby Tatum.
Tatum ball distributor = 2-1 Celtics lead and the Phaggots were imploding.
Tatum goes into Kirby more and the next thing you know its 4-2 over.

FFS

Got an answer as to whether this Moz guy would be any better.

[djohn2oo8]

Amen Thompson and Cam Whitmore are going to be the cause of Jalen Green traded. Good.

[MultiTroll]

Insider info on is Lebron and China Doll playing today?

Greek Freak also.

[MultiTroll]

Nuggets tapping that ass of the fake dynasty Warriors.

A most satisfying end of 4th qtr game.

[FrostKing]

NFL stealing the NBA's Christmas Day spot this year

[lefty]

Nuggets tapping that ass of the fake dynasty Warriors.

A most satisfying end of 4th qtr game.

:lol Bitch ass Kerr complaining about the refs

I’m not a fan of players punching teammates but now I can see why Mike punched him

Jordan is my new hero

[Obstructed_View]

The fucking Warriors and their coach aren't even man enough to whine about the officiating. Kerr acts like he gives a shit about the product the fans are watching, when he's just counting free throw attempts. :lol