In the end, Murray was not a culture fit

[exstatic]

maybe, but he shot 32% last season. It's not far fetched to think he could up that to 36%. Also Atlanta's issue is defense, since everybody will just be standing around on offense watching Trae Young do all kind of shit, while he's a traffic cone on defense. They need somebody to set the tone on D and DJ is certainly the right guy for that. He also got some pretty good roll men on that team who are more skilled than Jakob on offense

He shot .327 last year. His career % is .330. I think we have a baseline. He’ll help on defense, but I think he causes as many problems on offense as he solves on defense, mainly spacing issues.

[KingKev]

DJ can impact the game in many ways. He doesn’t need to be a walking triple double in ATL but he is going to have multiple targets on the offensive end.

Also Trae is going to be playing off ball more than ppl on here realize.

[rankingtear]

He shot .327 last year. His career % is .330. I think we have a baseline. He’ll help on defense, but I think he causes as many problems on offense as he solves on defense, mainly spacing issues.

The Rubio - Garland pairing was a success last year , ATL is hoping the same. They were +40 i think. Dragic-Bledsoe is the other one who overachieved.

[couchman]

From my understanding DJ may get to handle the ball a good amount as they experiment with having Trae run off screens and other plays similar to what GS runs for Steph.
DJM still won't have the ball as much as he did in SA, but he won't be a strictly off-ball guard.
There will be growing pains for both players, but it could work if the are dedicated to it

[rjv]

I'm just glad I can now safely call this dude out for the Capitalize Every First Sentence Typing Shit.

You're 25 man, never too late for some proper fuckin' grammar.

I'm assuming the irony of this post was intentional.

[NASpurs]

Dang its real, which is pretty wild.

I guess you can say... In the end, Murray was not a culture fit.

1549201485883473925

“the way that system set up yall gonna be bad for the next 15 years. problems bigger than basketball”

Just some nuclear truth bombs by DJ.

[exstatic]

“the way that system set up yall gonna be bad for the next 15 years. problems bigger than basketball”

Just some nuclear truth bombs by DJ.

No. Just more stupidity.

[rjv]

DJ has always been prone to impulsive rashness. This is just another example of this. He's in Atlanta and will quickly discover he's just travelled to an average franchise. The Hawks aren't set up for any real success either.

[Mugen]

:lol He ain't wrong, neither the Spurs nor the Hawks are sniffing a 'ship in the next 15 years tbh

[jjspur]

Still wish him the best but lets see how his career turns out and how the Spurs do. Spurs have a lot to prove tbh..

That's right lets see how he turns out. Reminds me a bit of DeRozen. We all pretty much knew DeRozen probably wasn't going to sign, but a least he handled it professionally. He moved on to Chicago where his team did do better than we did, but he was basically the same player. Great in season player but come playoff time he tends to fade in crunch time. Nothing new, but he doesn't get booed when he comes to San Antonio. That's called professional respect by the fans.

Murray is the opposite. Lets see how free he is in Atlanta, with Trae Young mostly handling the ball and the shots, plus a few other guys who also want the ball so they look good when its time to make a case for them to get paid which is fairly soon. Murray was the top dog here and it wasn't enough. Good move ? Maybe but it may be a better move for the spurs to move on from a disgruntled player.

Again we'll se how he does in Atlanta or when he comes back to face San Antonio. It will be telling.

[MannyIsGod]

I still think OP was reading way too much into social media but this is pretty blatant so obviously Dejounte (OP) was right. NGL, this kinda sours me on DJM a bit. Sounds like he left feeling salty and I'm not sure why.


I think people are going to read whatever they want into this. Some are going to say that he's talking about Pop. Some are going to point to other shit. Its all possible he's just clapping back at some idiot fan on the internet.

[MannyIsGod]

Still wish him the best but lets see how his career turns out and how the Spurs do. Spurs have a lot to prove tbh..

Eh, DJM has a lot more to prove than the Spurs my dude.

[south side spur]

It just sounds like he’s bitter and never really wanted to be traded. I believe he was loyal to the Spurs and wanted to stay just not at a discount. All that “Trae and I” narrative was just to make himself feel like he was driving this trade when he wasn’t. This was simply the Spurs doing what was best for the Spurs and they just kind of did him a solid with it being Atlanta. He’s young and emotional. Of course he wants to believe he was the franchise cornerstone and without him the Spurs have no hope. The only issue was like Manny said getting into a back and forth on social media. Spurs fans and maybe it’s more San Antonians that have an inferiority complex. Everything is a shot at the Spurs and the team is always going to be relocated. It’s pathetic but ehhh slightly amusing. Just look at those replies it’s a no win situation to entertain those losers.

[John B]

:lol He ain't wrong, neither the Spurs nor the Hawks are sniffing a 'ship in the next 15 years tbh

I’m betting the Spurs will get there first before the Hawks.

[rjv]

It just sounds like he’s bitter and never really wanted to be traded. I believe he was loyal to the Spurs and wanted to stay just not at a discount. All that “Trae and I” narrative was just to make himself feel like he was driving this trade when he wasn’t. This was simply the Spurs doing what was best for the Spurs and they just kind of did him a solid with it being Atlanta. He’s young and emotional. Of course he wants to believe he was the franchise cornerstone and without him the Spurs have no hope. The only issue was like Manny said getting into a back and forth on social media. Spurs fans and maybe it’s more San Antonians that have an inferiority complex. Everything is a shot at the Spurs and the team is always going to be relocated. It’s pathetic but ehhh slightly amusing. Just look at those replies it’s a no win situation to entertain those losers.

:bobo

[Atl Spur]

The spurs made the wright decision ……… We will look back at this as a major coup! Lol

[John B]

It just sounds like he’s bitter and never really wanted to be traded. I believe he was loyal to the Spurs and wanted to stay just not at a discount. All that “Trae and I” narrative was just to make himself feel like he was driving this trade when he wasn’t. This was simply the Spurs doing what was best for the Spurs and they just kind of did him a solid with it being Atlanta. He’s young and emotional. Of course he wants to believe he was the franchise cornerstone and without him the Spurs have no hope. The only issue was like Manny said getting into a back and forth on social media. Spurs fans and maybe it’s more San Antonians that have an inferiority complex. Everything is a shot at the Spurs and the team is always going to be relocated. It’s pathetic but ehhh slightly amusing. Just look at those replies it’s a no win situation to entertain those losers.

Whatever it is, DJ is not cut to be the Captain as PATFO hoped he would be. The guy is weak and immature and easily coaxed. I kept on going back to The Big 3 how they were trained to handle the media and just let their game speak for itself. DJ talks too much and invites trouble, not the CIA Pop way to stay under radar. I’m sure all these PATFO considered in decided to part ways. He will never be the leader that PATFO hoped for, and not especially leading very young and impressionable kids.

Lastly I go back to the bench squabble that threw me off DJ. Before that I kept on trying to defend DJ and praise him. After that, he’s that stray dog that will bite you no matter how good you’ve treated him. He was lucky the Spurs drafted him late at the 1st round and developed his game and nurtured him as a person. Had it been the Lakers or Knicks that’s all business, he would be long gone from this league, tbh. Good riddance punk!

[FkLA]

Everybody overreacting, imo.

The people that loved him are way too butthurt about this. He wanted to be in SA, wanted to be the face of the franchise and he's probably a little hurt that they didn't value him enough to spend the max. He's always been an emotional dude that likes to use "doubters" as motivation. That's all this is.

You also have the PATFO haters that are like "haha see this proves what I've been saying all along about PATFO". But really, DJ is on record calling Pop the GOAT, believing in the core players, and being a huge proponent of the "Spurs way" as recent as this off-season before the trade rumors emerged. DJ being hurt doesn't prove that this franchise is in shambles.

[John B]

That's right lets see how he turns out. Reminds me a bit of DeRozen. We all pretty much knew DeRozen probably wasn't going to sign, but a least he handled it professionally. He moved on to Chicago where his team did do better than we did, but he was basically the same player. Great in season player but come playoff time he tends to fade in crunch time. Nothing new, but he doesn't get booed when he comes to San Antonio. That's called professional respect by the fans.

Murray is the opposite. Lets see how free he is in Atlanta, with Trae Young mostly handling the ball and the shots, plus a few other guys who also want the ball so they look good when its time to make a case for them to get paid which is fairly soon. Murray was the top dog here and it wasn't enough. Good move ? Maybe but it may be a better move for the spurs to move on from a disgruntled player.

Again we'll se how he does in Atlanta or when he comes back to face San Antonio. It will be telling.

I’ve always praised Demar as a good soldier, just did what he was told and never complained. I remember him pulling DJ back on that bench squabble with Pop, as the man with the wisdom putting sense into this kid. Yes kid is the exact proper way to describe DJ with his temperament and immaturity, and at 25! I feel the Spurs had done so much for DJ, and for any player that donned the Silver and Black, always the organization that took care of its players best interest. So to fire a shot at the Spurs and fans who treated him right and helped him develop as the player he is now? Good riddance

[south side spur]

Whatever it is, DJ is not cut to be the Captain as PATFO hoped he would be. The guy is weak and immature and easily coaxed. I kept on going back to The Big 3 how they were trained to handle the media and just let their game speak for itself. DJ talks too much and invites trouble, not the CIA Pop way to stay under radar. I’m sure all these PATFO considered in decided to part ways. He will never be the leader that PATFO hoped for, and not especially leading very young and impressionable kids.

Lastly I go back to the bench squabble that threw me off DJ. Before that I kept on trying to defend DJ and praise him. After that, he’s that stray dog that will bite you no matter how good you’ve treated him. He was lucky the Spurs drafted him late at the 1st round and developed his game and nurtured him as a person. Had it been the Lakers or Knicks that’s all business, he would be long gone from this league, tbh. Good riddance punk!

Social media has definitely had more of a negative impact on society. Bottom line he’s not worth 3 draft picks. This was a no brainer deal to be made. The Spurs are not in a position to gamble with assets. “You’re not going to sign an extension? Ok how do you feel about Atlanta?”

There’s no right or wrong here with this because when Murray says “fake” I think he means he felt like he was a member of the Spurs family. He really does feel he was misled, used, lied to all these years however you want to put it. He’s not looking at it from the Spurs point of view. It’s easy to say “This is a business” but when you’re directly involved in the business and no longer a part of the Spurs family? “F this family they never really wanted me they just used me. Everything they told me was a lie. They’re fake.”

He’s not trying to understand how much the Spurs risk letting him go to free agency in 2 years. He thinks the Spurs should’ve been more loyal. He’s hurting. No excuses it just is what it is. Maybe he’s right though. Maybe the Spurs were “fake” to him. This was never really his family. You don’t trade family. Families stick together. Doesn’t really matter though because it is “a business”.

[The Truth #6]

He’s impulsive so it’s hard to know what the hell he is saying sometimes. I’m curious what he meant by the problems are bigger than basketball, but again, it’s probably just him spouting.

[Dex]

Funny how quickly the tables turn. Murray was just praising the Spurs a week ago at Summer League about how well they took care of him and just had his best interest in mind, etc...

Somebody needs to tell these kids to stay off social media, because the only point he is proving is that he is a loose cannon. Getting riled up by a bunch of randos on the internet...

For better or worse, the Spurs pedigree stands well above whatever Murray has to say about the team or front office or whatever...and he should know better.

I wanted to see him succeed in Atlanta, but stuff like this will quickly turn people against him (myself included). Good luck with a perennial playoff loser, kid.

[slick'81]

Funny how quickly the tables turn. Murray was just praising the Spurs a week ago at Summer League about how well they took care of him and just had his best interest in mind, etc...

Somebody needs to tell these kids to stay off social media, because the only point he is proving that he is a loose cannon. For better or worse, the Spurs pedigree stands well above whatever Murray has to say about the team or front office or whatever...and he should know better.

I wanted to see him succeed in Atlanta, but stuff like this will quickly turn people against him (myself included). Good luck with a perennial playoff loser, kid.


we all knew he was a diva,tbh

[John B]

Social media has definitely had more of a negative impact on society. Bottom line he’s not worth 3 draft picks. This was a no brainer deal to be made. The Spurs are not in a position to gamble with assets. “You’re not going to sign an extension? Ok how do you feel about Atlanta?”

There’s no right or wrong here with this because when Murray says “fake” I think he means he felt like he was a member of the Spurs family. He really does feel he was misled, used, lied to all these years however you want to put it. He’s not looking at it from the Spurs point of view. It’s easy to say “This is a business” but when you’re directly involved in the business and no longer a part of the Spurs family? “F this family they never really wanted me they just used me. Everything they told me was a lie. They’re fake.”

He’s not trying to understand how much the Spurs risk letting him go to free agency in 2 years. He thinks the Spurs should’ve been more loyal. He’s hurting. No excuses it just is what it is. Maybe he’s right though. Maybe the Spurs were “fake” to him. This was never really his family. You don’t trade family. Families stick together. Doesn’t really matter though because it is “a business”.

DJ would realize it more as a business when Trae, as playing offball, fails, and Trae starts handling the ball more and DJ was left to play 3 and D guy who shoots 32% from 3.

I understand what you’re saying. Still his character is not cut to be the Captain of a young impressionable team with his immaturities and twitter-happy fingers. The PATFO knows this and I’m sure considered when they decided to part ways. I don’t buy the, “we’re going to rebuild and we don’t want you to waste your prime years not competing”. There’s some truth to that, but if they had a player like Giannis who they know would someday be “it,” they’ll convince him all they can that this would just be temporary. It’s interesting that Keldon got a better extension than DJ, because Keldon is more the soldier who does not talk back, just goes about his business without drama. So yeah, DJ could read that as he was not “wanted”. Still you keep that to yourself and address the media the amicable way. The Spurs did so much for him. If he believed the things he said about the Spurs before, right now is the best way to show it, saying good things about the organization who helped him develop the player he is now.

[exstatic]

Funny how quickly the tables turn. Murray was just praising the Spurs a week ago at Summer League about how well they took care of him and just had his best interest in mind, etc...

Somebody needs to tell these kids to stay off social media, because the only point he is proving is that he is a loose cannon. Getting riled up by a bunch of randos on the internet...

For better or worse, the Spurs pedigree stands well above whatever Murray has to say about the team or front office or whatever...and he should know better.

I wanted to see him succeed in Atlanta, but stuff like this will quickly turn people against him (myself included). Good luck with a perennial playoff loser, kid.

This didn’t happen in a vacuum. He’s being badgered by asshole Spurs followers.

[RC_Drunkford]

I guess nobody here knows he lost his grandma yesterday? Probably a little emotional

[rjv]

He’s impulsive so it’s hard to know what the hell he is saying sometimes. I’m curious what he meant by the problems are bigger than basketball, but again, it’s probably just him spouting.

Who knows what he meant? ST posters/conspirators/Pop, RC and Wright haters will use this tweet as an opportunity to slam the organization but it could just have easily been a dig at the Spurs FO, with DJ feeling he should have been maxed and the trade showed that the spurs were never going to offer him that. Ergo, DJ is slamming the Spurs for being cheap. Or, he could be taking a stab at the Spurs building around Primo and another core of younger players. Ergo, he's slighted because DJ may have regarded himself as the cornerstone for the Spurs franchise. In the end, who really cares? The Spurs made a solid decision and Murray has the chance to prove his naysayers wrong if it's that important to him.

[Atl Spur]

This didn’t happen in a vacuum. He’s being badgered by asshole Spurs followers.

Atlanta fans are 100x worst!

[toki9]

Didn’t he recently reconcile with his long-estranged father? If so, wonder what kind of influence his father is having on him, if any.

[rjv]

Didn’t he recently reconcile with his long-estranged father? If so, wonder what kind of influence his father is having on him, if any.

i don't think it was a all-in reconciliation. it felt more like DJ extending an olive branch.

[toki9]

i don't think it was a all-in reconciliation. it felt more like DJ extending an olive branch.

I see. Do you know the full story? I only heard a brief mention of it in passing.

[Texas_Ranger]

I see. Do you know the full story? I only heard a brief mention of it in passing.

just ask him on instagram. He's good with responding to strangers. just dont mention the spurs, cause he'll probably act like a baby.

[toki9]

just ask him on instagram. He's good with responding to strangers. just dont mention the spurs, cause he'll probably act like a baby.

Thanks for that tip. It never would have occurred to me that he’d actually respond to strangers. Guess I’m too old to understand social media.

[Dancelot]

Dang its real, which is pretty wild.

I guess you can say... In the end, Murray was not a culture fit.

1549201485883473925
Alright, F this kid. You don’t say that shit about a team that built you up. I remember watching him on draft night, pouting that he was still sitting there late in the first round because no other team wanted to deal with him. He was so butthurt he was picked so late. And him being an “all star” wouldn’t have happened unless Silver put him on the team. I’m so glad that I don’t have to cringe at his Instagram posts anymore and I’m pretty sure the FO is as well.

[scott]

DJ would realize it more as a business when Trae, as playing offball, fails, and Trae starts handling the ball more and DJ was left to play 3 and D guy who shoots 32% from 3.

I understand what you’re saying. Still his character is not cut to be the Captain of a young impressionable team with his immaturities and twitter-happy fingers. The PATFO knows this and I’m sure considered when they decided to part ways. I don’t buy the, “we’re going to rebuild and we don’t want you to waste your prime years not competing”. There’s some truth to that, but if they had a player like Giannis who they know would someday be “it,” they’ll convince him all they can that this would just be temporary. It’s interesting that Keldon got a better extension than DJ, because Keldon is more the soldier who does not talk back, just goes about his business without drama. So yeah, DJ could read that as he was not “wanted”. Still you keep that to yourself and address the media the amicable way. The Spurs did so much for him. If he believed the things he said about the Spurs before, right now is the best way to show it, saying good things about the organization who helped him develop the player he is now.

I'm not sure I'd say that KJ's extension was "better" than DJ when all factors are considered. DJ got 4/$64 coming off an ACL. DJ put up 8p/5r/3a in the season prior to that while KJ put up 17ppg before his extension. And when you factor in the inflation of salaries since then... I'd say that you can make an argument that DJ got the better extension than KJ all things considered.

[MannyIsGod]

Everybody overreacting, imo.

The people that loved him are way too butthurt about this. He wanted to be in SA, wanted to be the face of the franchise and he's probably a little hurt that they didn't value him enough to spend the max. He's always been an emotional dude that likes to use "doubters" as motivation. That's all this is.

You also have the PATFO haters that are like "haha see this proves what I've been saying all along about PATFO". But really, DJ is on record calling Pop the GOAT, believing in the core players, and being a huge proponent of the "Spurs way" as recent as this off-season before the trade rumors emerged. DJ being hurt doesn't prove that this franchise is in shambles.

I think this is a pretty fair and level headed take on it, but what he said does bother me. I expected more out of DJM.

[rjv]

I see. Do you know the full story? I only heard a brief mention of it in passing.

not really. i'm just going by the post and the video.

[John B]

not really. i'm just going by the post and the video.

https://twitter.com/toomightyszn/status/1549195739540111361?s=21&t=M9goOg5qtQf8ZsE9xZP5Hghttps://twitter.com/toomightyszn/status/1549195739540111361?s=21&t=M9goOg5qtQf8ZsE9xZP5Hg

It’s pretty straight forward. Regardless he twitted this out of frustration, he should’ve known better or it shows his true color. Again for me, DJ is too weak to be the leader to lead especially a young rebuilding team. So good riddance

[TD 21]

He’s impulsive so it’s hard to know what the hell he is saying sometimes. I’m curious what he meant by the problems are bigger than basketball, but again, it’s probably just him spouting.

You'd think a guy who's always tried to act like he's hard would at least have the balls to be specific, but it's almost certainly the usual they don't fit the narrow minded view of blackness that many inner city types have. The ungrateful, immature brat can go play stereotype in Atlanta now.

This organization has a choice: Either get with the times and start appealing to these types or go scorched earth on them, but enough with the gutless high road approach.

[John B]

I know how to upload YouTube videos, but I can’t seem to upload Tweets or pictures.

[scott]

I know how to upload YouTube videos, but I can’t seem to upload Tweets or pictures.

If you copy a link to a Tweet, the link will have a long string of numbers at the end. Take that number, and put it in [ *tweet* ] and [ */tweet* ] tags to embed the tweet (remove the spaces and astricts)

[John B]

I’m sure Pop would dismiss when asked (if anyone has balls to ask :lol). But being the military guy that he is, he knows DJ is a weak, immature leader not cut to lead the new team. I don’t buy the “will send you on your way and not waste your time with a rebuilding team.” If they really thought DJ would be “it,” they would do all their best to convince him to stay. He’s never getting the max, and that’s what DJ was salty about. He’s not it.

[John B]

If you copy a link to a Tweet, the link will have a long string of numbers at the end. Take that number, and put it in [ *tweet* ] and [ */tweet* ] tags to embed the tweet (remove the spaces and astricts)

Thanks :bobo

[offset formation]

This didn’t happen in a vacuum. He’s being badgered by asshole Spurs followers.

Badgered? Most all of the comments on that page were laudatory...and wishing him well. I too hope he does well because he was normally very happy being a spur.

But give me a break with the badgering. All he had to do to not get badgered before that tweet was not to tweet it (or IG it or whatever). Until then he was an athlete mostly beloved by Spurfan. And he's making many, many millions of dollars to not react to the one or two that wanted to poke him.

[offset formation]

You'd think a guy who's always tried to act like he's hard would at least have the balls to be specific, but it's almost certainly the usual they don't fit the narrow minded view of blackness that many inner city types have. The ungrateful, immature brat can go play stereotype in Atlanta now.

This organization has a choice: Either get with the times and start appealing to these types or go scorched earth on them, but enough with the gutless high road approach.

Yup, we go high when they go low just leads to higher chance of shit hitting the fan for you one day or another.

[DAF86]

Whatever his motivations were, we can all agree DJ is pretty fucking immature. I cringe at people airing on social media every single thought that crosses their mind. Keep some fucking privacy, you fucking histerical dumbass.

[Atl Spur]

Whatever his motivations were, we can all agree DJ is pretty fucking immature. I cringe at people airing on social media every single thought that crosses their mind. Keep some fucking privacy, you fucking histerical dumbass.

^this

[KaiRMD1]

Dumb move, in the same post where he's talking about how much he loves SA and how they will always be a family then go around and do that? Yeah, good riddance.

[PhantomDashCam]

I'm excited to see the Spurs tribute video for next season. They might go full "Inglourious Basterds" style...

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlankDesertedInexpectatumpleco-size_restricted.gif

[3&D_TBH]

This OP is aging quite well tbh

[DAF86]

ALopYrH1aTw

I had forgotten how much drama this guy created on social media. Dude is just a child that never grew up. Egomaniac as fuck too. Unfollowing the franchise you play for and all your teammates because you didn't got it your way is pretty fucking low and it speaks a great deal about his character. Good riddance, tbh. That child was problem just waiting to happen.

[TimDunkem]

I'm just glad I can now safely call this dude out for the Capitalize Every First Sentence Typing Shit.

You're 25 man, never too late for some proper fuckin' grammar.
I still don't get why people do this. It isn't easier than typing normally. :lol

[scott]

ALopYrH1aTw

I had forgotten how much drama this guy created on social media. Dude is just a child that never grew up. Egomaniac as fuck too. Unfollowing the franchise you play for and all your teammates because you didn't got it your way is pretty fucking low and it speaks a great deal about his character. Good riddance, tbh. That child was problem just waiting to happen.

I mean when you put it like that... yeah, DJ kinda seems like an immature piece of shit :lol

Jilly is hot AF for the record

[MI21]

ALopYrH1aTw

I had forgotten how much drama this guy created on social media. Dude is just a child that never grew up. Egomaniac as fuck too. Unfollowing the franchise you play for and all your teammates because you didn't got it your way is pretty fucking low and it speaks a great deal about his character. Good riddance, tbh. That child was problem just waiting to happen.

I skipped through each chapter and watched the first 20 seconds or so and fuck, this guy is basically stalking Dejounte.

[Texas_Ranger]

ALopYrH1aTw

I had forgotten how much drama this guy created on social media. Dude is just a child that never grew up. Egomaniac as fuck too. Unfollowing the franchise you play for and all your teammates because you didn't got it your way is pretty fucking low and it speaks a great deal about his character. Good riddance, tbh. That child was problem just waiting to happen.

ROFLMAO, even his dad hated him. hahahahah ... but yea, this guy has always acted like a little baby. Happy that he's gone. We wouldnt never be better with him anyway.

[Dejounte]

ALopYrH1aTw

I had forgotten how much drama this guy created on social media. Dude is just a child that never grew up. Egomaniac as fuck too. Unfollowing the franchise you play for and all your teammates because you didn't got it your way is pretty fucking low and it speaks a great deal about his character. Good riddance, tbh. That child was problem just waiting to happen.

Guy has a good point. DJ LOOKED for one negative comment out of thousands. Folks pointing blame towards disrespectful fans are wrong. I mean, they’re guilty, too. But this was DJ actively looking to lash out and talk shit.

[RC_Drunkford]

So who of y’all is Clan the Spurs Stan?

[Trill Clinton]

Can we dead this thread now?

[GAustex]

To me it’s just really strange DJM choose to be so disrespectful

[RC_Drunkford]

Shortly after his comment left everything on the table, Murray clarified, despite receiving the usual criticisms NBA players often get on the toxic world of social media, that his love for Spurs fans runs deep. But he doubled down that the organization has issues at its core. “You have no clue how deeply I love the fans and will do whatever for the real fans … Me saying what I said had nothing to do with the fans! All that inside s*** fake though! (For real, for real),” Murray wrote (https://www.si.com/nba/spurs/news/san-antonio-dejounte-murray-trade-instagram-comments-social-media-atlanta-hawks-trae-young-keldon-johnson-gregg-popovich). 6 hours ago (https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1734163/) – via Zach Dimmitt @ Sports Illustrated (https://www.si.com/nba/spurs/news/san-antonio-dejounte-murray-trade-instagram-comments-social-media-atlanta-hawks-trae-young-keldon-johnson-gregg-popovich)


interesting

[Leetonidas]

So Murray is either lying or fake as fuck too then based on his comments about always seeing the Spurs as family :lol dude should just shut the fuck up and move on already

[DPG21920]

Eh, DJM has a lot more to prove than the Spurs my dude.

I get that if you are talking about historically, but if we are measuring recent success? SA has clearly fallen off. Im happy with them finally recognizing what they should have years ago, but make no mistake, SA is bad and there are no guarantees of success anytime soon.

I’m optimistic though but SA has a lot to prove IMO

[Leetonidas]

imo it's obvious that he's butthurt about him being hailed as the future PG of the Spurs / face of the franchise and them not wanting to give him a max on his next deal. Spurs have always been good to DJ on the court, his comments sound like a scorned lover which tells me he was insulted that SA didn't believe in him being worth 42M a year

all this proves that DJ is just as fake as the people he claims to hate :lol dude says one thing, immediately deletes it, then tries to backtrack while still slinging mud while making vague childish comments. dude needs to grow tf up. Glad this bum is off our team. no team with him as a "leader" is winning anything

[TD 21]

imo it's obvious that he's butthurt about him being hailed as the future PG of the Spurs / face of the franchise and them not wanting to give him a max on his next deal. Spurs have always been good to DJ on the court, his comments sound like a scorned lover which tells me he was insulted that SA didn't believe in him being worth 42M a year

all this proves that DJ is just as fake as the people he claims to hate :lol dude says one thing, immediately deletes it, then tries to backtrack while still slinging mud while making vague childish comments. dude needs to grow tf up. Glad this bum is off our team. no team with him as a "leader" is winning anything

Agreed. Beyond his being a fringe/complementary star, their best players in this era ('14-'15-) have all had archaic/flawed styles, which generally caps the ceiling and makes it so that specific personnel is required around them to thrive. They needed to get away from that.

[Dejounte]

The fact that he needed to delete his own comments doesn’t sound so “FREE” to me

Seems like the opposite :lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

Agreed. Beyond his being a fringe/complementary star, their best players in this era ('14-'15-) have all had archaic/flawed styles, which generally caps the ceiling and makes it so that specific personnel is required around them to thrive. They needed to get away from that.

they also all wanted to leave

[RC_Drunkford]

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[Texas_Ranger]

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Either tell whats the problem, or shut the fuck up Bryan.

[KingKev]

they also all wanted to leave

Seriouslyas happy as most were to see DDR, LMA, Patty and Gay leave they all wanted out.

Not even Mills wanted to stay and he probably had twice the money he got from BK on the table.

[RC_Drunkford]

Nets are paying Mills 6 million. Spurs paid him more than double when the cap was lower. They had to overpay like crazy for him to stay here

[R. DeMurre]

I think one of the main things to recognize coming out of all of this is how 90+% of all twitter posts are fluff, and the equivalent of answers in a job interview, and now the result is that after 100s & 100s of pro-Dejounte posts using tweets as somehow proof of something (He said he loves the Spurs! He said he loves his teammates! He said he loves being in San Antonio!) people are now using twitter posts to show how Dejounte is the devil incarnate and was always a terrible guy and teammate... he's essentially the same guy he has always been. When a reporter asks a player a question, most players are smart enough to know they have to give the "proper" answer-- so when that reporter posts the quote, it essentially means nothing, and is not really worthy of a reposting.

[RC_Drunkford]

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I think they clearly discussed the new contract coming up in 2024 and clearly didn’t want to pay him the max which is the right decision. Still there‘s definitely something wrong behind the scenes in the organization

[KingKev]

Nets are paying Mills 6 million. Spurs paid him more than double when the cap was lower. They had to overpay like crazy for him to stay here

There was a story run last summer about how Patty told Pop first at like 2am via text when they were both at the Olympics so it was pretty obvious an offer was extended on our end. Given we gave McDermott 14/yr wouldn’t suprise me Patty had a 2-3yr deal in the area of 10mm a year on the table from us.

[Leetonidas]

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timvp any truth to this in your opinion?

[Texas_Ranger]

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I think they clearly discussed the new contract coming up in 2024 and clearly didn’t want to pay him the max which is the right decision. Still there‘s definitely something wrong behind the scenes in the organization

at this point i think its that Pop called him a ni66er

[John B]

Seriouslyas happy as most were to see DDR, LMA, Patty and Gay leave they all wanted out.

Not even Mills wanted to stay and he probably had twice the money he got from BK on the table.

Nah those guys left because they are obviously not part of the rebuilding (and I’m sure told), and wanted to go where they are still valued. It’s not the same thing. Likewise Tony wanted to rather go to CHA for a more dominant role. The only one player I know in recent memory who really wanted out was nephew (and weak ass LMA who couldn’t take the pressure). I think even Boban wanted to stay and Pop had to put sense into him to take the money.

My point, the Spurs are always there for their players and they appreciate it. This punk is butthurt about something. I suspect he knew the Spurs (BW) would not be offering him the max and was candid to him. I’m sure it’s BW who doesn’t see him as a franchise player to build around nor a leader to follow. I pointed before how much different with White feeling rejected after knowing he was traded. The guy wanted so much to stay. In retrospect, Spurs could have kept him for vet in the locker room, but then again that trade resulted to Wesley. Still back then I wander if PATFO knew they would soon be losing DJ and still traded Derrick, or not and they chose to build around DJ.

[BatManu20]

Goddamn DJ’s such a drama Queen. Loved him when he was here but it’s time to move. For both parties.

[BatManu20]

timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) any truth to this in your opinion?

Spurs prob told this nerd he can’t jerk off to anime porn during his lunch break anymore and he threw a fit.

[John B]

Hey fuck Kawhi and fuck Dejounte too :flipoff

The only thing maybe is DJ let the Spurs worked a good haul for him, and even played he didn’t know what was going on. That most Spurs fans could appreciate.

[south side spur]

This is amazing. Yeahhhh the Spurs weren’t loyal. They couldn’t promise a max contract in 2 years. They’re also in no position to risk losing Murray for nothing. This is professional sports NOT a family. Breaking News. Look at the Budding Roses camp counselor Bryan’s tweet. He was probably expected to show up to work on time and not take frequent breaks to check his cellphone. And when he wasn’t doing that they were mean to him and he was oppressed just like Murray.

[Biggems]

The Hawks are shit. Their fan base doesn't even support them. DJ is talking trash to nobodies on the internet, that is funny. I thought he enjoyed his time with the Spurs and was happy and grateful that they traded him to his desired destination. I so no reason why he is salty as fuck.

I am happy to see him gone, if he is going to behave like this over a few keyboard cowboys.

[Atl Spur]

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I think they clearly discussed the new contract coming up in 2024 and clearly didn’t want to pay him the max which is the right decision. Still there‘s definitely something wrong behind the scenes in the organization

Because they wouldn’t pay this clown? Terrible investment…… he’s not even the best pg in his division:( Let Atlanta pay that dude!

[KingKev]

Hahha so many salty Spurs fans

[RC_Drunkford]

Hahha so many salty Spurs fans

most sensitive fanbase in the entire NBA tbh

[MannyIsGod]

Damn at this point homie should just say his piece and let it be or just stfu but this is pretty weak tbh. I'm not mad at this dude, but this isn't a good look. DMJ would have been loved by Spurs fans forever but he's decided to kinda fuck that up and thats sad.

[MannyIsGod]

most sensitive fanbase in the entire NBA tbh

lol you have got to be kidding me man. Spurs fans are not even in the top 10 for sensitive fan bases.

[John B]

Just that Spurs are a top notch organization top to bottom, and known in the league to take care of their players best interest. So something like this is the least disappointing, especially from a homegrown picked at 29th, who would’ve probably been out of the league if were picked by Sacramento or Orlando.

[John B]

So fuck Kawhi and fuck Dejounte, both ungrateful bitches :flipoff:flipoff

[dbestpro]

The more Murray talks the more it is obvious the Spurs made the right decision. He will implode like so many before him.

[RC_Drunkford]

Just that Spurs are a top notch organization top to bottom, and known in the league to take care of their players best interest. So something like this is the least disappointing, especially from a homegrown picked at 29th, who would’ve probably been out of the league if were picked by Sacramento or Orlando.

They aren't top notch anymore. That should be pretty clear, but sniffers here still want to blame everybody else but PATFO. Then when you say they fucked up right here, the response is "do you expect them to get it right all the time?". If they are top notch then yes. If Pop is the GOAT coach then yeah he shouldn't lose series with dumbass coaching mistakes. So obviously they are more average than great

[exstatic]

In the end, DJ will belatedly realize how well the Spurs set the table for his development and progress. Right now,he’s on another team, and I don’t follow other team’s players jibber jabber. Just don’t care.

[John B]

They aren't top notch anymore. That should be pretty clear, but sniffers here still want to blame everybody else but PATFO. Then when you say they fucked up right here, the response is "do you expect them to get it right all the time?". If they are top notch then yes. If Pop is the GOAT coach then yeah he shouldn't lose series with dumbass coaching mistakes. So obviously they are more average than great

I’m not talking about Spurs record right now. Top notch as far as doing players solid. That hasn’t changed despite the abysmal record. There is no reason DJ should be salty when the Spurs landed him to pair with Trae, which is what he liked. The organization helped fixed his shooting, his handles. Bruh the guy was immature and 29th pick. There was a reason why some teams didn’t want to touch him, but Spurs looked passed that. In retrospect maybe they shouldn’t and probably a red flag. I haven’t checked who they could’ve invested instead. But that’s worthy of another thread.

My point, Spurs did this guy solid, and no reason he’s dissing the organization. Fucking ingrate

[John B]

Brogdon, VanFleet, Caruso. Any of those guys would’ve been better in hindsight.

[The Truth #6]

I was pretty excited when this trade went through for DJM, so I’m not too bent out of shape over this. I think it’s a bummer for sure that he acts this way but it’s definitely a pattern. I was thinking about trading him last summer and I think someone on the board wisely said let’s just give it one more year when his value goes up higher, so I think this worked out somewhat perfectly to be honest. His emotional dysregulation was always going to be there. He was always one tweet away from things falling apart, and eventually I guess it did.

Not to get too Machiavellian here, but maybe he implodes in Atlanta and that helps with our draft picks. That would be hilarious.

[exstatic]

Brogdon, VanFleet, Caruso. Any of those guys would’ve been better in hindsight.

None of those guys would have gotten us a bag of picks like we got from DJ. None of them would have made us appreciably better than we were and are.

[jjspur]

With all this drama and bs, you would think he's a top 10 player. Newsflash, he's not. If in the course of on season he can prove all of us wrong and become a top level all star, then he made the right decision in complaining. If he doesn't, well we can give him the big finger when shows up next season and we'll actually know who made the right decision. In the meantime he's just acting like a little bitch. Dude you're not 13 any more, you've been paid millions to play a game. Grow up and go on vacation to Europe or something and just let go of that phone for a while, its only making things look worse. Then go practice your shooting. You'll need to get a lot better if you want to remain an "all Star".

[TD 21]

they also all wanted to leave

And? I've been critical of the organization's "culture" ad nauseam, but that has nothing to do with what I was saying here.


most sensitive fanbase in the entire NBA tbh

Nah, Craptors got that on lock.

Spurs fans have a right to be though, considering the relative lack of respect/backhanded compliments the organization's recent past receives and the fact that every prominent player (as well as some role players from the past) since not only hasn't wanted to be here, but most slang mud on their way out.

[John B]

None of those guys would have gotten us a bag of picks like we got from DJ. None of them would have made us appreciably better than we were and are.

Yup they would’ve been better fit with Demar and White. I’d rather had Caruso/White/Demar.

Anyway, I like our picks now so that’s spilled milk.

[Atl Spur]

They aren't top notch anymore. That should be pretty clear, but sniffers here still want to blame everybody else but PATFO. Then when you say they fucked up right here, the response is "do you expect them to get it right all the time?". If they are top notch then yes. If Pop is the GOAT coach then yeah he shouldn't lose series with dumbass coaching mistakes. So obviously they are more average than great

Wow! That’s really your benchmark? Bro, please put down the pipe!!

[Atl Spur]

I spoke about this and the effect he would’ve had on the locker room…..he needed to go. I wish him well

[rjv]

Nah those guys left because they are obviously not part of the rebuilding (and I’m sure told), and wanted to go where they are still valued. It’s not the same thing. Likewise Tony wanted to rather go to CHA for a more dominant role. The only one player I know in recent memory who really wanted out was nephew (and weak ass LMA who couldn’t take the pressure). I think even Boban wanted to stay and Pop had to put sense into him to take the money.

My point, the Spurs are always there for their players and they appreciate it. This punk is butthurt about something. I suspect he knew the Spurs (BW) would not be offering him the max and was candid to him. I’m sure it’s BW who doesn’t see him as a franchise player to build around nor a leader to follow. I pointed before how much different with White feeling rejected after knowing he was traded. The guy wanted so much to stay. In retrospect, Spurs could have kept him for vet in the locker room, but then again that trade resulted to Wesley. Still back then I wander if PATFO knew they would soon be losing DJ and still traded Derrick, or not and they chose to build around DJ.

you're wasting your time, debbie downer isn't interested in any other narrative that doesn't fit the spurs is a sinking ship theme.

[timtonymanu]

At least Derrick white was never this toxic when he left us.


:lol “the future” Murray, always thought he was a weird dude tbh

[timtonymanu]

This emotional loser always made cryptic posts when the Spurs had to bench him. He was always a delusional overrated player. We’re gonna be so glad we aren’t paying his non 3 point shooting ass in years.

[FkLA]

Just let him be butthurt. That's who he's always been, an over emotional dude. And btw that same personality trait contributed to him going from a attention seeking, instagram baller to a legitimate fringe all-star. I don't get why it bothers fans so much. If a more reserved guy like White or Lonnie had said it it'd be more alarming but DJ? Nah.

Y'all know I was never his biggest fan but there's no reason to go at him. He always loved being a Spur (wouldn't be saying this about the org if he was still on the team), kept his head down during the trade negotiations and let the Spurs get a decent haul. If he wants to get in his feeling after the fact let him.

[The Truth #6]

He had a crazy upbringing it sounds like with his grandmother being the head of a local gang, supposedly. I'm ok with us trading him and getting a good return. He worked super hard while he was here. He says shit impulsively to feel like he has to defend himself. There's probably some psychological damage there. I expected things would go this way eventually. This played out about as well as one could expect given how he is wired and how he handles rejection, and how we sold high on him. And if he in some way causes drama with the Hawks, then well, "they bough the ticket, they deserve to crash."

[John B]

Just let him be butthurt. That's who he's always been, an over emotional dude. And btw that same personality trait contributed to him going from a attention seeking, instagram baller to a legitimate fringe all-star. I don't get why it bothers fans so much. If a more reserved guy like White or Lonnie had said it it'd be more alarming but DJ? Nah.

Y'all know I was never his biggest fan but there's no reason to go at him. He always loved being a Spur (wouldn't be saying this about the org if he was still on the team), kept his head down during the trade negotiations and let the Spurs get a decent haul. If he wants to get in his feeling after the fact let him.

I appreciate DJM let the Spurs worked a good haul for him. But that was only because he was going to his desired favorable team. That mofo wasn’t doing the Spurs a favor. By the end of the day DJ is a selfish immature butthurt.

Funny I had the same sentiments before, but then I’d be crucified saying bad things about this “system player,” stat-padding, immature wannabe leader.

[jjspur]

No more freebies from Taco Cabana for that cry baby. See how good the tacos are in Atlanta.

[tonight...you]

Wow! That’s really your benchmark? Bro, please put down the pipe!!
I would say he needs to pick up a pipe.
Help him relax.

[spurs1990]

He and Jackson were the only starters who weren’t a culture fit. OTOH The entire young roster from Johnson to Vassell to Primo and the 3 new guys could have been custom created by Wright in a lab. All Ego-less

[tonight...you]

No more freebies from Taco Cabana for that cry baby. See how good the tacos are in Atlanta.
What dish, or food is Atlanta known for?
Wings?
Cole slaw?

[rastaspur]

What dish, or food is Atlanta known for?
Wings?
Cole slaw?

Strippers. But you can get arrested if you try to dine in. Catch 22

[GAustex]

My Georgia relatives bragged about pulled pork

[tonight...you]

My Georgia relatives bragged about pulled pork
I do love some good pulled pork.

[Ice009]

I spoke about this and the effect he would’ve had on the locker room…..he needed to go. I wish him well

Not sure if your user name stands for Atlanta? If so, I assume you live there? Would Murray do well there? Not sure what kind of temptations are around apart from strippers. I just wonder if all the distractions will affect his game in a negative way.

[ismael-robert]

Not sure if your user name stands for Atlanta? If so, I assume you live there? Would Murray do well there? Not sure what kind of temptations are around apart from strippers. I just wonder if all the distractions will affect his game in a negative way.

Lol n u think living there qualifies him to look into djs mind n give u any sort of qualified answer as if he knows the man

[tonight...you]

Lol n u think living there qualifies him to look into djs mind n give u any sort of qualified answer as if he knows the man
I get that, but maybe an inquiry into the city and how it is, as cities are like living beings and effect the ones that live inside it's hive could be justified.
How is life in Atlanta different than life in San Antonio...
Alas, poor Yoric, that is the question.

[Atl Spur]

Not sure if your user name stands for Atlanta? If so, I assume you live there? Would Murray do well there? Not sure what kind of temptations are around apart from strippers. I just wonder if all the distractions will affect his game in a negative way.

Atlanta has so much stuff going on so it’s easy to get caught up in some stuff. You remember Bud got a DUI here as the head coach!!!! This place like some others will eat you alive ( Houston, Miami, LA ). So many layers to this stuff….

[Atl Spur]

Lol n u think living there qualifies him to look into djs mind n give u any sort of qualified answer as if he knows the man

True.

[rastaspur]

Not sure if your user name stands for Atlanta? If so, I assume you live there? Would Murray do well there? Not sure what kind of temptations are around apart from strippers. I just wonder if all the distractions will affect his game in a negative way.

I think the most telling fact that Atlanta can be a major distraction is this: most extremely affluent black people such as athletes, celebrities, etc. Usually have a second home there. Incredibly huge celebrity and nightlife scene.

It's had the "mecca" moniker in black culture since the 90's.

So when the hawks sucked no one wants to play there per SE but it has nothing to do with the city's desirability. It's the opposite of San Antonio from a young players perspective.

Imo it's the best place I've been to for seriously fine black women. Everywhere. Just everywhere. Alot are ratchet af but alot are super classy/top shelf.

[Ice009]

Thanks for the insight guys. I was just asking about the city as I simply don't know much about Atlanta not living in the US. Sounds like a city I wouldn't mind checking out if I ever go to the US.



I think the most telling fact that Atlanta can be a major distraction is this: most extremely affluent black people such as athletes, celebrities, etc. Usually have a second home there. Incredibly huge celebrity and nightlife scene.

It's had the "mecca" moniker in black culture since the 90's.

So when the hawks sucked no one wants to play there per SE but it has nothing to do with the city's desirability. It's the opposite of San Antonio from a young players perspective.

Imo it's the best place I've been to for seriously fine black women. Everywhere. Just everywhere. Alot are ratchet af but alot are super classy/top shelf.

It seems like such an interesting city. I heard about the nightlife, but didn't realize a lot of players, celebrities/affluent people like to live there. That is also very interesting to me that when the Hawks sucked, I do remember players not wanting to go/play there, but if the nightlife and socializing is that good from what you guys are saying, I wouldn't have thought they'd have any trouble at all getting players even when they did suck. I remember watching games when I was younger and they didn't even have much fans in the stadium. Why does LA, Miami, etc. draw players regardless of how bad the team is, but Atlanta doesn't?

I'm going to do a bit of googling as it seems like a super interesting city. Anyone know of any good movies or tv shows set in Atlanta that might give me a bit of glimpse into the city/lifestyle there?

[jjspur]

I do love some good pulled pork.

You want good pulled pork... Memphis is the place and I'm not that much of a fan of pork but that stuff there is excellent ! You can even get good pulled pork at the airport.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

It’s so funny seeing the majority of the folks in here changing their views so strongly. Lmao.

Some folks on here seen this side of ole boy from the beginning of him getting drafted. It’s hilarious initially how people laughed at the thread starters premise of this thread. Lmao.

i am not saying DJ is a bad guy and the Spurs front office didn’t do anything wrong. What I am saying is he was overrated (a good player though) by a lot on this board and Spurs fandom and he always did what he is doing now on social media. Fans of this franchise just turned a blind eye because he played for our team. None of this is surprising if you actually pay attention and the Hawks fan base is going to be sadly disappointed that he doesn’t push them over the top like they think he will.

dude is a good (flawed) but far from great player and will most likely never make another all star team barring injuries.

[Drom John]

No more freebies from Taco Cabana for that cry baby. See how good the tacos are in Atlanta.

Best tacos I have ever had:
Rreal Tacos, 100 6th St NE #110, Atlanta, GA 30308

We had already often eaten at Adrian Villarreal's earlier restaurant, and twice met him at cooking demonstrations at Peachtree Farmers Market, including tacos.

[Trill Clinton]

Murray was a culture fit. He bought in, didn't have any arrests or off-court issues. Had a major injury and put his head down and worked himself back into shape while still sitting on the sidelines and supporting his team. He was a leader in every sense of the word when he was here. He said/did all the right things.

[Dex]

Murray was a culture fit. He bought in, didn't have any arrests or off-court issues. Had a major injury and put his head down and worked himself back into shape while still sitting on the sidelines and supporting his team. He was a leader in every sense of the word when he was here. He said/did all the right things.

Agreed...definitely a far cry from Nephew who torpedoed the organization and then went into hiding.

Murray has always been an impulsive young guy, for better or worse. He's passionate and outspoken...sometimes that came out in praise and building up the Spurs and his teammates, sometimes it came out as pouting and acting like he is being attacked. This is no different.

I just think it's funny how he says one thing in front of the TV cameras and goes out spouting the opposite on Twitter, but it is what it is.

[MultiTroll]

dude is a good (flawed) but far from great player and will most likely never make another all star team barring injuries.
Bookmarking.

[rjv]

DJ's hopes of making another all-star appearance may have been better in SA but, even then, there's too much competition in the west. trae will be an all-star and then DJ will have to compete with the likes of demar, lavine, lamelo, jaylen brown, harden, smart, cade cunningham, perhaps kyrie (if he ever plays), holiday and others. i just don't see it but the one thing about DJ is that he never backed down to his critics.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Bookmarking.

LMAO.

if he makes another one barring a lot of players injuries then that’s a great thing for him. I’m just pointing out that even on the SPURS were he had the highest usage % he ever had in his career, he still had to have a bunch of folks get injured to make the all star team.

i am not saying he isn’t a good player, but I will go on record and state he isn’t a great player. I will not be like a lot of folks on here and bash the guy

[offset formation]

Brogdon, VanFleet, Caruso. Any of those guys would’ve been better in hindsight.

I got destroyed on this board for recommending the Spurs take some version of Middleton, Brogdon and picks which was reportedly available from Milwaukee for neph. It was my preferred destination for him if we were going to trade him. Both would have fit here much better than Demar.

[daslicer]

I'm not upset at what he said even though I don't think it a mature way for him to handle the situation. I think he was salty and sensitive towards some of the Spur fans remarks towards him. I also believe he is salty that the Spurs didn't believe he is a max player and has that chip on his shoulders where wants to prove them wrong. With that being said I think he's a good player and is a fringe all-star which is a player that can make an all-star game every now and then when someone is hurt but can't do it consistently. We'll see if can elevate his game, but I doubt it.

[exstatic]

I think, given all of his pre-draft red flags, he turned out about as well as could possibly be expected. There were a lot of paths to bad outcomes, and a few to good outcomes, and he found one of those.

When it becomes clear that a player who isn’t a franchise guy wants to go into UFA, that begins the process of trading him. Klutch made it clear that he wouldn’t extend, so if you get to UFA and can’t reach a deal, the good outcome is to get pennies on the dollar. The bad outcome is that he walks for nothing. The Spurs couldn’t afford either of those outcomes, so BW pulled off a heist, and got a great return.

[Ocotillo]

Call it immaturity or impulsiveness or whatever, that has always been a weak spot for DJ. I wish him good luck and while SA was not going anywhere in the near term, the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence and I will be watching for him tweeting the eyes emoji the first time the Atlanta GM comes out and says something similar to what he said this past season about they should have not run it back and made moves.

I am happy with the return SA got for him and now he is a Hawk so who cares.

[rjv]

LMAO.

if he makes another one barring a lot of players injuries then that’s a great thing for him. I’m just pointing out that even on the SPURS were he had the highest usage % he ever had in his career, he still had to have a bunch of folks get injured to make the all star team.

i am not saying he isn’t a good player, but I will go on record and state he isn’t a great player. I will not be like a lot of folks on here and bash the guy

no kidding. i mean, go ahead and bookmark it. it's not as if Murray is a perennial all star. hell, Manu only made two and he's far better than DJ could dream of being. (Note: that's not bashing. I like DJ. It's just an honest take.)

[Proxy]

murray thinks he's better than he is... probably still living off of that one game he had in cleveland years ago on national tv where the announcers kept saying he was friends with lebron lmao

his criticism of the patfo is probably mostly linked to them not licking his boots constantly. dj is kinda dumb and not self aware that way

[RLT]

I wonder if he knows the Hawks haven't won since 1958? Can't wait to see the Backcourt Brick Ballers.

[MultiTroll]

his criticism of the patfo is probably mostly linked to them not licking his boots constantly. dj is kinda dumb and not self aware that way
Ya he should have been happy with 50 Paddy and Pet Bryn Bryn flanking him on either side for some lock down team D.
And that hustlin gangsta LMA playin D and movin the ball on O.

What was wrong with Murray?

[KingKev]

murray thinks he's better than he is... probably still living off of that one game he had in cleveland years ago on national tv where the announcers kept saying he was friends with lebron lmao

his criticism of the patfo is probably mostly linked to them not licking his boots constantly. dj is kinda dumb and not self aware that way

75% of Spurs fans view… whom also do not actually follow NBA basketball and need illegal steams to watch a Spurs game.

[Big Empty]

Clan tha Spurs fan, that u?! Lol

[Dverde]

Just let it go, he’s gone. DJ played his ass off and got Pop the record. He’s good in my book :bobo

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'm not sure his impact really translated into wins, which is the bottom-line. Not super-star worthy, or even star-worthy in that regard.

That said, he improved as a point guard every year.

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm not sure his impact really translated into wins, which is the bottom-line. Not super-star worthy, or even star-worthy in that regard.

That said, he improved as a point guard every year.

:lol just look up his winshares

[MultiTroll]

:lol just look up his winshares
yep.
Put anyone next to Pets Bryn n Paddy with drunk Grandpa driving the car and see how many win shares you get.

[dbestpro]

Great players on bad teams are not always great players on great teams. They usually shoot more and get the ball more on a bad team. Murray is a top notch defender. Hiid FG% 46.2 was fourth highest for a PG. His greatest weakness remains the 3. In a three point league it is a big deal. At 32.7% there were 33 PGs including bench players with enough minutes who shot the three better. The only starting PGs for the season that were worse was Alexander from OKC. Teams will force him to shoot outside. He will either be a reall star by making the three or just another good player.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Rooting for DJ regardless of his instagram reply. The kid came in the league raw as hell blew his knee out and got better and better each and every year. Whatever he replied with on instagram was out of frustration, he was a leader and loyal as hell for the Spurs, and the Spurs made a decision to move on from him, and it was best move for both parties. Regardless of DJs loyalty to the Spurs I am sure if PATFO went up to him and told him they wouldn't offer the max to him DJ the type of person he is would get angry and think the Spurs don't believe in him just like a lot of other people in his life while growing up.

A couple months ago every single Spurs fan adored him because how great he was playing and repping the Spurs in the All Star game. He had the most enjoyable season from a Spurs player since Kawhi's coming out season about 6 years years ago. It just didn't work out on the business side of things, shit happens.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Great players on bad teams are not always great players on great teams. They usually shoot more and get the ball more on a bad team. Murray is a top notch defender. Hiid FG% 46.2 was fourth highest for a PG. His greatest weakness remains the 3. In a three point league it is a big deal. At 32.7% there were 33 PGs including bench players with enough minutes who shot the three better. The only starting PGs for the season that were worse was Alexander from OKC. Teams will force him to shoot outside. He will either be a reall star by making the three or just another good player.

i agree with most of this post but a big one that I know some are gonna say “I’m crazy” about is the top tier defender tag.

DJ isn’t a top tier defender. Is he good at playing the passing lanes? YES! Is he good at gambling and sometimes getting on ball steals? YES!

is he actually locking down other point guards? No. Is he a versatile defender than can guard all types of guards? No. Can he guard different types of wing players? No.

once again, I’m not saying DJ is a bad player. I think he is good, but I also think a lot of SPURS fans overrated him because he was on our team. DJ is really good at getting steals, but he gambles a lot and isn’t the type of defender who you’re really gonna expect to get stops on good offensive players.

now maybe he will be better at that in Atlanta because he will not be asked to shoulder a bigger (he didn’t when Demar was here also) offensive (I think he is gonna have a good bit of offensive responsibilities though) load or he will have better help defenders so he will not have to gamble as much in Atlanta.

[BackHome]

Glad for Murray he got what he wanted and I think the Spurs got what we wanted some marriages don’t work out and better to leave on good terms. One think about Murray I agree he had a hard time staying in front of quick guards but he was a good overall defender and we DEFINITELY going to miss his rebounding

[rastaspur]

Thanks for the insight guys. I was just asking about the city as I simply don't know much about Atlanta not living in the US. Sounds like a city I wouldn't mind checking out if I ever go to the US.




It seems like such an interesting city. I heard about the nightlife, but didn't realize a lot of players, celebrities/affluent people like to live there. That is also very interesting to me that when the Hawks sucked, I do remember players not wanting to go/play there, but if the nightlife and socializing is that good from what you guys are saying, I wouldn't have thought they'd have any trouble at all getting players even when they did suck. I remember watching games when I was younger and they didn't even have much fans in the stadium. Why does LA, Miami, etc. draw players regardless of how bad the team is, but Atlanta doesn't?

I'm going to do a bit of googling as it seems like a super interesting city. Anyone know of any good movies or tv shows set in Atlanta that might give me a bit of glimpse into the city/lifestyle there?

Yeah can't help you there much. Tons of movies and shows are shit in Georgia due to extremely favorable tax breaks but those studios are outside Atlanta in the surrounding areas

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

lol enjoy atlanta uh whatever your name was

[tonight...you]

Yeah can't help you there much. Tons of movies and shows are shit in Georgia due to extremely favorable tax breaks but those studios are outside Atlanta in the surrounding areas
I know dudes and women who have co-written some of those films done on a budget and they got 3 weeks.
Like holy hell guys.

I know it's crap, but you barely got $200 bucks!

[Ice009]

Yeah can't help you there much. Tons of movies and shows are shit in Georgia due to extremely favorable tax breaks but those studios are outside Atlanta in the surrounding areas


I know dudes and women who have co-written some of those films done on a budget and they got 3 weeks.
Like holy hell guys.

I know it's crap, but you barely got $200 bucks!

All good, thanks guys. You've already given me a good bit of insight into ATL.

[KingKev]

All good, thanks guys. You've already given me a good bit of insight into ATL.

https://video.vice.com/sv/show/noisey-atlanta

[Atl Spur]

https://video.vice.com/sv/show/noisey-atlanta

Really? You are trying way to hard!!

[KingKev]

Really? You are trying way to hard!!

haha either this, MLK documentaries or the movie ATL all I know.

[rastaspur]

https://video.vice.com/sv/show/noisey-atlanta

Yeah, it's rough and trap culture ain't my thing. I would not live there. Big cities aren't my thing. I won't live in a city with more than 200,000 people.

Scariest city in the south is Memphis though. So rough there.

[KingKev]

Yeah, it's rough and trap culture ain't my thing. I would not live there. Big cities aren't my thing. I won't live in a city with more than 200,000 people.

Scariest city in the south is Memphis though. So rough there.

Never been to Memphis but sounds like it’s a warzone once you are off the beaten path. I don't rock jewellery when I travel to certain places but I’m not afraid to go off the main areas to get lined up and anywhere I’ve been down south ppl have been very friendly to me as a Canadian, although had a close call in Chicago a few years back.

[Killakobe81]

I think, given all of his pre-draft red flags, he turned out about as well as could possibly be expected. There were a lot of paths to bad outcomes, and a few to good outcomes, and he found one of those.

When it becomes clear that a player who isn’t a franchise guy wants to go into UFA, that begins the process of trading him. Klutch made it clear that he wouldn’t extend, so if you get to UFA and can’t reach a deal, the good outcome is to get pennies on the dollar. The bad outcome is that he walks for nothing. The Spurs couldn’t afford either of those outcomes, so BW pulled off a heist, and got a great return.

This what I thought but Bum kept down playing it saying maybe one of them don’t convey…
I think for a fringe all star you didn’t wanna pay a max to, you guys did well.

[Atl Spur]

haha either this, MLK documentaries or the movie ATL all I know.

Atlanta is cool….. a lot of history here! A real melting pot :)

[KingKev]

Atlanta is cool….. a lot of history here! A real melting pot :)

I’m not hating man I had a quick stop through and stayed at the W in Buckhead like 5-6 yrs ago and loved it. Unfortunately didn’t get a chance to really explore.

[exstatic]

This what I thought but Bum kept down playing it saying maybe one of them don’t convey…
I think for a fringe all star you didn’t wanna pay a max to, you guys did well.

baseline is a notorious pessimist, but the reality is that CHA cannot afford to be a lottery team for 3 years in a row, or they’ll lose LaMelo. We’re going to get that pick, and CHA will do all of the work.

[baseline bum]

This what I thought but Bum kept down playing it saying maybe one of them don’t convey…
I think for a fringe all star you didn’t wanna pay a max to, you guys did well.

It's a pretty highly protected pick, something like top 16 in 2023, top 14 in 2024, top 13 in 2025, and then becomes two seconds if it hasn't conveyed by then.

[baseline bum]

baseline is a notorious pessimist, but the reality is that CHA cannot afford to be a lottery team for 3 years in a row, or they’ll lose LaMelo. We’re going to get that pick, and CHA will do all of the work.

Not off to a good start with their #2 guy looking at doing time. Would not be counting those chickens yet.

[rastaspur]

Atlanta is cool….. a lot of history here! A real melting pot :)

It's cool in short spurts. I'll come over for a weekend.

Can't live there. That traffic sucks a fat one. Rode through Houston one time in rush hour and it's a good comparison for Texas folks.

Houston like traffic from a commuter standpoint but maybe worse.

[rastaspur]

baseline is a notorious pessimist, but the reality is that CHA cannot afford to be a lottery team for 3 years in a row, or they’ll lose LaMelo. We’re going to get that pick, and CHA will do all of the work.

Clifford is underated imo. I say he gets them to the playoffs by year 2. There's enough talent for him to get there if it clicks.

But to play devil's advocate, I'd argue if ball can't get them to the playoffs once in the next three years is that someone you want to really build your franchise around?

[Atl Spur]

It's cool in short spurts. I'll come over for a weekend.

Can't live there. That traffic sucks a fat one. Rode through Houston one time in rush hour and it's a good comparison for Texas folks.

Houston like traffic from a commuter standpoint but maybe worse.

To each it’s own; I’ve been out here for awhile. Similar to a lot of places in some ways and very different in others.

[rastaspur]

To each it’s own; I’ve been out here for awhile. Similar to a lot of places in some ways and very different in others.

But you do admit the traffic is awful and about as bad as it gets?

[rastaspur]

To each it’s own; I’ve been out here for awhile. Similar to a lot of places in some ways and very different in others.

I grew up in a town of 12,000. Big cities aren't my thing. The biggest cities in the south I want to live in are Asheville, nc and savannah, ga. That's as big as I want to go.

[Atl Spur]

But you do admit the traffic is awful and about as bad as it gets?

True.

[offset formation]

I grew up in a town of 12,000. Big cities aren't my thing. The biggest cities in the south I want to live in are Asheville, nc and savannah, ga. That's as big as I want to go.

Agree on Asheville. You might like Hoover, AL or Oxford, MS. Lafayette, LA is also a good place to party. Probably wouldn't want to live in any of them but I've stayed, partied in those places as well as many other locations across the south. Knoxville too

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

Dejounte playing street ball

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[ismael-robert]

1 pt game in 4th quarter with 3 Hawks all stars

[tim_duncan_fan]

Dejounte playing street ball

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Imagine bouncing the ball off someone's head before making a pedestrian (and fouling) move to the basket and missing the shot.

[Rocalcio]

I don't understand why Spurs fans are heckling DJ on social media. He obviously wanted to be in San Antonio and was hurt that he was traded so now he's overcompensating. No need to make him feel worse.

He wanted out.

[KingKev]

1 pt game in 4th quarter with 3 Hawks all stars

Collins hasn't made an AS game.

[KingKev]

1553922793808478211

DJ literally smiled as he set up JC. That is going to be a fun trio to watch.

DJ could be a great glue for that roster.

[Dverde]

I want DJ to succeed, but I need those future ATL picks to be high as a Spurs fan.

[dbestpro]

DJ literally smiled as he set up JC. That is going to be a fun trio to watch.

DJ could be a great glue for that roster.

Except they won't be playing that level of talent in the NBA. YMCA ball is not NBA ball.

[The Truth #6]

Was that the Washington Generals they were playing?

[exstatic]

Except they won't be playing that level of talent in the NBA. YMCA ball is not NBA ball.

Yeah, it’s trash ball. DJ plays like shit off the ball, very ordinary. He’s going to be off the ball in ATL.

[KingKev]

Yeah, it’s trash ball. DJ plays like shit off the ball, very ordinary. He’s going to be off the ball in ATL.

Actually Tre is going to play off ball much more than you think.

[RC_Drunkford]

DJ literally smiled as he set up JC. That is going to be a fun trio to watch.

DJ could be a great glue for that roster.

but can DJ throw an alley-oop pass though?

[KingKev]

but can DJ throw an alley-oop pass though?

He got pretty good at setting Jak up for Poodle Pops. If he can remain a scoring threat and have Tre, JC and Clint as targets it might be pretty damn fun to watch, even if they are still a middle of the pack playoff team.

[exstatic]

Actually Tre is going to play off ball much more than you think.

Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. The problems between Trae and JC were all about touches. Tre didn't want to give them up. Can't see him wanting to give up the rock.

[KingKev]

Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. The problems between Trae and JC were all about touches. Tre didn't want to give them up. Can't see him wanting to give up the rock.

If you go into a fight and don’t plan to get punched I can’t help you.

Trae is a pretty good 3pt shooter. This should challenge him to become a more efficient off ball scorer. He has the touch.

DJ doesn’t have to worry about balancing calling his own card versus distributing now. He has guys around him who can score. Stagger their minutes, let them take turns as primary ball handler when on the floor together and have DJ spend more energy being a ball hawk versus doing literally everything, which is what we had him do last year. If you look at DJ his upper body is really starting to fill out. He has the length, speed and agility to really effect games on the defensive end.

[RC_Drunkford]

He got pretty good at setting Jak up for Poodle Pops. If he can remain a scoring threat and have Tre, JC and Clint as targets it might be pretty damn fun to watch, even if they are still a middle of the pack playoff team.

I know, I'm just saying it cause people here said DJ couldn't throw alley-oop passes :lol

[KingKev]

Imagine bouncing the ball off someone's head before making a pedestrian (and fouling) move to the basket and missing the shot.

If you watch from this angle the guy was up in his junk…

https://bleacherreport.com/post/nba/3619a2e4-7287-415e-a0df-8f204c9b6f22

[John B]

That reminds me. Fuck Kawhi, fuck Dejounte!

[The Truth #6]

Dejounte, unleashed from the Spurs. I wonder if he’ll get more technicals this year. Or maybe get in a fight. He’s still emotionally young so I’m expecting him to act out a little bit next year. Sort of like the kid who goes off to college and goes wild. Joking?

[John B]

If you watch from this angle the guy was up in his junk…

https://bleacherreport.com/post/nba/3619a2e4-7287-415e-a0df-8f204c9b6f22

Yup the guy is a show-off who craves attention. His game is flawed, but I think it’s more of a questionable character that PATFO would not feel easy awarding him the max. He’s barely Demar, but PATFO would rather sign him max because he’s a true leader on and off the court. Dejounte is a player and leader-wannabe. Above footage while might be fun, is not very Spursy.

[Seventyniner]

If you watch from this angle the guy was up in his junk…

https://bleacherreport.com/post/nba/3619a2e4-7287-415e-a0df-8f204c9b6f22

Let's say your defender's face is near your junk like that and you thrust forward and tap him on the nose with it. That's personally foul, but is it a personal foul?

[KingKev]

Let's say your defender's face is near your junk like that and you thrust forward and tap him on the nose with it. That's personally foul, but is it a personal foul?

1/3rd of Spurstalk would never wash their face again if that happened as they guarded Pop or Manu.

[KingKev]

https://bleacherreport.com/post/nba/340bc08a-f326-4486-b96c-c09c2a9ccdf6

[slick'81]

https://bleacherreport.com/post/nba/340bc08a-f326-4486-b96c-c09c2a9ccdf6


hes a man of da people

[Gagnrath]

Dejounte is more of a baller type who thinks only baller types can win. He has a lot of Stephen A. Smith to him. Guessing, if this isn't just joshing, he thinks the franchise will struggle because it doesn't cater to the baller class, when they've won 5 championships not doing so.

In fact ballers have never won any championship.

Stephen Jackson has a ring that disagrees with you...

That ring might even have silver and black on it.

[Slippy]

Poor Dejounte.. it still hurts obviously. Cant let it go that the spurs didnt see the same value.

[CGD]

Could it have ended better? Sure.

But DJ’s still my hommie.

He repped SA with pride while here, and worked his ass of to improve each season (which he did). People who work hard, don’t expect shit to fall in their laps, and give a damn about their professions will always have my respect, basketball and otherwise.

[KingKev]

Could it have ended better? Sure.

But DJ’s still my hommie.

He repped SA with pride while here, and worked his ass of to improve each season (which he did). People who work hard, don’t expect shit to fall in their laps, and give a damn about their professions will always have my respect, basketball and otherwise.

Shit RT. Just lock this thread.

[CGD]

^ from the guy keeping the thread needlessly alive lol.

One just need only scroll up for the proof points…

[KingKev]

Keeping it alive supporting a player I really rocked with amongst a fan base I often don’t understand. You are quite sensitive.

[KingKev]

^ Forgot to tag you sweetie pie, don’t take it personal.

[KingKev]

Could it have ended better? Sure.

But DJ’s still my hommie.

He repped SA with pride while here, and worked his ass of to improve each season (which he did). People who work hard, don’t expect shit to fall in their laps, and give a damn about their professions will always have my respect, basketball and otherwise.

Think you meant homie LOL

[tim_duncan_fan]

People forget Murray was never supposed to be it.

Had.White not been a pansy and lived up to that Denver series, Murray would be a bench guy.

[BatManu20]

Dejounte beefing with Paolo Banchero already :lol.

He’s been acting pissed since he got traded tbh.


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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZmcSLjVEAAa101?format=jpg&name=large

[Seventyniner]

Looking more and more like someone, probably Pop, was suppressing Dejounte's social media output. Should get increasingly more spicy imo.

[stephen jackson]

He’s wilding out

[GAustex]

Easy for me to say but some big brother gonna put DJM down if he keeps that foolishness up

[baseline bum]

But you do admit the traffic is awful and about as bad as it gets?

Hard to imagine it's worse than the 405 on the westside of LA. When I first got to LA a friend suggested going to an Angels game so we left at 4:30 to get there early. About a 40 mile drive from UCLA but didn't even get to the stadium to park until the middle of the first inning after a 7:30 start. And all the traffic was the highways, was smooth sailing into the stadium by the time I got to Anaheim since the game had already started. :lol

[BatManu20]

More IG drama from DJ.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZmzSLHUcAAT1u_?format=jpg&name=large

[LongtimeSpursFan]

I was against trading Murray but in the end The Spurs knew what they were doing.

[BatManu20]

Dejounte getting dragged on Twitter right now. People finally seeing what we’ve been seeing for years tbh.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Murray acts as if he’s 14 years old still. Sad

[DeRozan m8]

Fuck, Murray is painful

Hes like a kid still

[Texas_Ranger]

Every normal person knew this guy was a giant idiot from the start. Hes just showing it now more and more when hes not on the spurs. Getting rid of this retard was the best thing the spurs have done in the last 4 years.

[spurs1990]

More IG drama from DJ.



So wait, Murray posted that he both ‘lost respect’ for banchero and ‘wants to see [banchero] win’

Which one is it Murray?
He’s only 25 but still petulance unbecoming a six year vet

[rogcl1]

Murray acts as if he’s 14 years old still. Sad

That comparison is being unfair to most 14 year olds.

[Dejounte]

The gift that keeps on giving :lmao

[DeRozan m8]

Honestly, he's beefing with a fcking rookie who's never played an NBA game


What a tough and mature guy

[slick'81]

Nobody cares ,tbh. hes atl's problem now

[Atl Spur]

………… lol. This isn’t rocket science. The spurs are winning!

[Mr. Body]

I always thought he'd force his way out, but... Jesus. Don't he have anyone on his side? Tell him to shut the fuck up?

[The Truth #6]

He may have a personality disorder. He doesn’t seem well. All that freedom is going to be his undoing. Starting to feel completely weird and sad. But, those ATL picks are already starting to look better. (Actually I have no idea what years they are, but whatever).

[Ignazzz]

Better view

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cg-e081AMzw/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[hombre]

It Is So Much Fucking Work To Type Like This. Have It Make Sense!

[BatManu20]

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[heyheymymy]

"I stand on real shit boy and you know"

Man that Murray trade looking good rn

[Slippy]

Better view

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cg-e081AMzw/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Theres another vid out there where he just goes and bumps the rookie, then pretends its an accident.

Dejounte unleashed . Yikes. Not a good look

[slick'81]

I dont see the big deal. He made the rookie look dumb then messed with him a little ooooooooh

[DeRozan m8]

1556488503684472833

Wow, he's a straight up classless bully and piece of shit now.

I wish this guy pure failure in Atlanta.

Fake tough guy

[KingKev]

Haha this is going to be an interesting season for him. I’m sure behind closed doors older guys are already telling him he is wildin’

I am interested to see if this DJ can really keep it going on the court but he probably needs to be humbled.

[Fireball]

Murray's current behavior is mind-boggling ... he really must have kept a part of his personality in a box during his time in SA and now its breaking out ... pent-up emotions to the nth degree

[KingKev]

Murray's current behavior is mind-boggling ... he really must have kept a part of his personality in a box during his time in SA and now its breaking out ... pent-up emotions to the nth degree

The Spurs system was the best thing to happen to him to develop as a player I feel. I also think he feels abandoned and is wilding out as he experienced the business side of the NBA. I don’t want to dig too deep into another person’s psyche especially since I don’t know him personally but lets not forget he worked damn hard to get here. He is a grown man who now needs to back that talk up. A near max contract depends on it. The talent is there. The work ethic is there but damn he needs someone in his ear ready to check him that is for damn sure.

[KingKev]

Imagine DJ bullying Primo in practice. LOL.

[kht]

Glad we got rid of this piece of shit. You can't be mad at dirty players like Zaza, Pat Bev, and others while having a guy like Murray on our team. WTF happen between his entire tenure in SA and the offseason got traded? truly surprising

[exstatic]

He may have a personality disorder. He doesn’t seem well. All that freedom is going to be his undoing. Starting to feel completely weird and sad. But, those ATL picks are already starting to look better. (Actually I have no idea what years they are, but whatever).

2025 unprotected
2026 unprotected swap option
2027 unprotected

[exstatic]

I dont see the big deal. He made the rookie look dumb then messed with him a little ooooooooh

The only person looking dumb is Dejounte.

[exstatic]

Glad we got rid of this piece of shit. You can't be mad at dirty players like Zaza, Pat Bev, and others while having a guy like Murray on our team. WTF happen between his entire tenure in SA and the offseason got traded? truly surprising

Nothing happened. He is who he always was. The Spurs just kept his social media in check, for the most part. If you look at the posts during his Spurs time that he deleted, none of this should be a surprise.

[lefty]

:lol culture fit

Bulls won 3 titles with Rodman, right after they traded him away

[Atl Spur]

:lol culture fit

Bulls won 3 titles with Rodman, right after they traded him away

Do we even have to obliterate this take????

[Atl Spur]

Murray don’t get it……..

[Gibbz]

There's a reason he was dubbed IG Baller early on tbh

[Dverde]

Jilly tried to warn us.

[Dex]

Wow, he's a straight up classless bully and piece of shit now.

I wish this guy pure failure in Atlanta.

Fake tough guy

Dude straight up went on Twitter calling out Paolo for not being humble...and he's out there pulling this shit on amateurs.

BTW...Murray's team lost this game so...par the course. Fake tough guy who can't back it up. He's been showing his true colors ever since leaving San Antonio.

[steak n eggs]

I wish I had appreciated Tim, Tony and Manu a little more during their time here. Why do the Spurs seem to be saddled with headcases since the big three? On another note, I didn't realize how big Banchero is. Seems like he didn't get too rattled about Murray's antics and was pretty humble in general. Too bad we didn't have that #1 pick this year.

[Atl Spur]

He tried to play the big homie card ( which he is not ); Murray being a ��

[The Truth #6]

The Hawks think they're getting a player steeped in the "Spurs Way". Lol. I mean, it could obviously work out for him and the team there. Lots of teams do well that don't get along. I just think the coach's job got a little harder when they signed him. My gut feeling is JC and Dejounte will be upset about their role, and maybe even Trae as well. What they need is a mature veteran to keep people in line. But I don't think they have that.

[John B]

https://www.si.com/nba/spurs/news/san-antonio-dejounte-murray-atlanta-hawks-paolo-banchero-orlando-magic-seattle-pro-am?fbclid=IwAR0x7KirGeLUcnL1A9xVQwC_TYlqacUYcT_1SP _eGWltQCfgrRYMsPkn7pY&fs=e&s=cl

Now it’s Banchero. On the pro-am game, DJ made that wrap-around-Banchero that had the kid looking foolish, followed by DJ bouncing the board-to-himself-pass before dunking, then taunting Banchero as he threw the ball to him. DJ unfollowed Banchero on social media, then both exchanging words on twitter.

Damn, this kid is getting out of hand, fighting with everybody and showing immature. He seems to me a kid rebelling after he didn’t get what he wants, in this case maybe PATFO’s approval/tap on his shoulder as face of the franchise. Whatever it is, DJ is getting notoriety than positive vibes.

https://twitter.com/firstteam101/status/1556434170708217857?s=21&t=OKy6V4uJblGXW1OyAtPYrw

[Gagnrath]

Imagine bouncing the ball off someone's head before making a pedestrian (and fouling) move to the basket and missing the shot.

Honestly with both that guy and banchero DJ was rude however both of those guys were way up in his space bodying up and going hard for what is a practice level scrimmage. Yeah to dude in the gym there going against an NBA all-star is big time, as to me he looks like a pretty good D2 level college player. Not claiming I know the exact situation but if I am doing summer time Pro-Am stuff as a pro, I am not looking for full speed all out play from opponents. But neither side should really be going all out.

[Gagnrath]

Wow, he's a straight up classless bully and piece of shit now.

I wish this guy pure failure in Atlanta.

Fake tough guy

That one was just rude and to much on Murray wtf. The other couple with banchero and the Pro-Am in Seattle were not good but kinda forgivable since both of them were guarding like it was 80s play-offs and their team had a foul to give. This one dude drove hard on bigger better competition and when you get the rebound you try and do some bs globetrotters head bounce badly.... That's freaking lame.

[FkLA]

Anybody else feel second hand embarrassment for him? Talking about being humble and calling Banchero a little boywhen he's out there acting like a child on the court and on social media. A grown man capitalizing every word is just the cherry on top.

What a dumb dude :lol

[slick'81]

Is murray a try hard diva with a chip on his shoulder ? Yes but he always has been:lol