In the end, Murray was not a culture fit

[Atl Spur]

Anybody else feel second hand embarrassment for him? Talking about being humble and calling Banchero a little boywhen he's out there acting like a child on the court and on social media. A grown man capitalizing every word is just the cherry on top.

What a dumb dude :lol

Dumb in deed…

[Leetonidas]

Anybody else feel second hand embarrassment for him? Talking about being humble and calling Banchero a little boywhen he's out there acting like a child on the court and on social media. A grown man capitalizing every word is just the cherry on top.

What a dumb dude :lol

Yeah, pretty ironic this guy is telling others to stay humble when hes gotten the biggest head because of being an all-star INJURY REPLACEMENT :lol

[emanueldavidginobili]

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lmao bro is unhinged, he deleted it of course.

[BatManu20]

1556655068270788614

lmao bro is unhinged, he deleted it of course.

That’s from a fake account :lol. Peep the handle. Notice the extra O in “Hooop”

[emanueldavidginobili]

That’s from a fake account :lol. Peep the handle. Notice the extra O in “Hooop”
Lmao dammit, sad I actually believed he would say some shit like that at this point :lol

[slick'81]

This is some petty ass social media bs

[Joseph Kony]

Spurs definitely sold high on instagram baller tbh. Just wait until teams actually try to play real defense on him. That Hawks team will implode by the trade deadline :lol

[DeRozan m8]

Spurs definitely sold high on instagram baller tbh. Just wait until teams actually try to play real defense on him. That Hawks team will implode by the trade deadline :lol

Yep...real low iq of atlanta.

It's always been obvious he was never that guy

[Dex]

Yep...real low iq of atlanta.

It's always been obvious he was never that guy

I still don't see how Murray and Trae are gonna work....two high usage players and only one ball. Trae is still gonna be option 1A and 1B, so Murray better learn how to play off ball.

Maybe good for a 7-8 seed and first round exit, but that's about it.

[MultiTroll]

Murray can play off ball.

It was Poppeds idea to try to force him into Chrissy Paul style play.

[John B]

DJ playing chip on his shoulder and proving everybody he’s all that after PATFO didn’t seem to think so. I don’t know if I would wish him well. Normally I would on any ex-Spur. But this guy’s head just got too big

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Jilly tried to warn us.

Nah...She went straight from DJ to be arm candy for a serial sexual assaulter? She's trashy and around for that dough.

[slick'81]

First kawhi then Dejounte. Spurs need a real leader asap

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First kawhi then Dejounte. Spurs need a real leader asap

The gods are punishing us for 30 years of run.

[Seventyniner]

I still don't see how Murray and Trae are gonna work....two high usage players and only one ball. Trae is still gonna be option 1A and 1B, so Murray better learn how to play off ball.

Maybe good for a 7-8 seed and first round exit, but that's about it.

John Collins probably won't be happy about being a third option either.

He's got some decent trade value, but I don't know if the Hawks can trade him for a strict upgrade, especially with their 2025-2027 pick chest completely bare.

[Atl Spur]

First kawhi then Dejounte. Spurs need a real leader asap

Primo says Hi!

[Atl Spur]

I’ve said all along trade the dude…….was clear as day to me he wasn’t that fella! Lol

[Down Under]

The gift that keeps on giving :lmao
Off topic, but wondering what your upside of Keldon looks like? I'm fairly low on his defense (lateral movement, getting around screens etc), but his offense seems to be sky high (Euro floater & elite 3 point shooting added last season). Sorry if you've posted a million times, I'm not on here much anymore

[KobesAchilles]

IG Baller checklist
add the phrase 100
mention being “humble”
talk about a time that happened 10+ years ago
Be as cryptic as possible
Dude does those 4 things like every post of his :lol

[GAustex]

Primo says Hi!
Hey girl-long time
Miss Cleo you still claiming last years lotto pick who would be this years second rounder will save Spurs bacon?
Did you break your crystal ball

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Primo says Hi!

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

[DeRozan m8]

IG Baller checklist
add the phrase 100
mention being “humble”
talk about a time that happened 10+ years ago
Be as cryptic as possible
Dude does those 4 things like every post of his :lol

:lmao

[Ice009]

Nah...She went straight from DJ to be arm candy for a serial sexual assaulter? She's trashy and around for that dough.

Where did she end up these days? I sort of always thought she was a bit of a gold digger.

[lefty]

This board last season : "omg DJM awesome"
Now : "fuck that guy"

:lol

[exstatic]

This board last season : "omg DJM awesome"
Now : "fuck that guy"

:lol

People have been saying fuck that guy since his rookie IG Baller year. If you paid attention, there were a lot of deleted posts to kind of clean things up, and that isn't happening now. This is who he is.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Dejounte calling people soft lolololololololol

It's like Republicans and Catholics calling people pedos

It's like Russ criticizing somebody's jumpsuit!


I cannot wait for Paolo to destroy this man.

[Dex]

Imagine being a six-year vet and putting a rookie on blast on Instagram when they haven't even played a single NBA game....then following that up spouting nonsense of "staying humble"

I was proud of Murray for making the ASG last season, but also was vocal about his late game execution and boneheaded decisions that cost the Spurs many games.

That said, he seemingly tried to be a leader and fill that spot after DeMar left but...I have to wonder if any of this nonsense filtered down to the team. Dude has always been immature on social media and now doesn't have Pop's leash on him anymore.

[TDomination]

Imagine being a six-year vet and putting a rookie on blast on Instagram when they haven't even played a single NBA game....then following that up spouting nonsense of "staying humble"

I was proud of Murray for making the ASG last season, but also was vocal about his late game execution and boneheaded decisions that cost the Spurs many games.

That said, he seemingly tried to be a leader and fill that spot after DeMar left but...I have to wonder if any of this nonsense filtered down to the team. Dude has always been immature on social media and now doesn't have Pop's leash on him anymore.

This is what i'm curious about. Perhaps he "held back" with his emotions and social media activity because of Pop/Spurs culture. It will be interesting to see if he just lets loose now.

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Where did she end up these days? I sort of always thought she was a bit of a gold digger.

She's the arm candy for DeShawn Watson. Straight from DJ to him when it became clear he was going to be the richest contract in NFL history for a QB. She's from Houston so I'm sure she hung around acquaintances of his waft her scent. Those two deserve one another. DJ may be an immature jackwad, but he's not on that level of shitty human they are. Or even close.

[Chinook]

Murray's going to cut loose a bit. That's part of spreading your wings after a new situation. I don't think he's doing a good thing, but I also don't think this marks him as a shitty person. He's a guy trying to define his brand and having growing pains.

Not sad that he's gone, though. Hopefully Johnson can be better. Murray, for all the hype, never seemed like a team player. That obvious on the court, but it was even so in the little things. For all we know, Murray wanted a trade last off-season, which played into him not being in HEB commercials. No, I'm not forgetting about his sister. I just think Murray was more a beneficiary of a good locker room than he was the wellspring for it.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Murray was never going to be a superstar, but he's a good 3rd or 4th "star" for a contending team. I'm not sure Atlanta's at that level.


I thought he was a loyal Spur, but his willingness to burn down that bridge is pretty disappointing and indicative of his character. Pop handed the keys to Murray, even sacrificing the end of Tony's career to do it, and DJM kind of shat on all of that. Too bad....for him.

[slick'81]

https://youtu.be/tL7yawg1JRs

[rogcl1]

F____ Murray> Showed his true colors.

[poopbox]

People in this thread have a problem with Murray but don't have a problem with Parker fucking his teammates wife :rollin

[The Truth #6]

Despite all the weird shit, Dejounte could still improve as a player and if ATL does well then Dejounte may get some of that credit. But I’m thinking that’s probably not happening.

[rjv]

People in this thread have a problem with Murray but don't have a problem with Parker fucking his teammates wife :rollin

i haven't seen anyone post that. what i have seen is a lot of posters give major props to parker for his on court play. in fact, in spite of your narrative, parker was never really endeared for his public persona all that much. but he dedicated himself to the spurs and winning to such an extent that he earned his kudos.

[weeks]

Mentioning HOTS and Murray in the same sentence... Smh

[lefty]

People in this thread have a problem with Murray but don't have a problem with Parker fucking his teammates wife :rollin
Spurs fans smh :lol

[Mr. Body]

People in this thread have a problem with Murray but don't have a problem with Parker fucking his teammates wife :rollin

Everyone had problems with that, poopbox.

[R. DeMurre]

Less than two months ago, some were speculating that Murray, LaVine, and Banchero could be the future for the Spurs with their Seattle connection/roots. It's crazy how fast fortunes can change in the NBA.

[exstatic]

Less than two months ago, some were speculating that Murray, LaVine, and Banchero could be the future for the Spurs with their Seattle connection/roots. It's crazy how fast fortunes can change in the NBA.

I never thought Lavine was signing here. Got that super tease JKidd vibe right off the bat.

[slick'81]

I never thought Lavine was signing here. Got that super tease JKidd vibe right off the bat.


Nobody thought lavine was coming here

[Seventyniner]

I never thought Lavine was signing here. Got that super tease JKidd vibe right off the bat.

imo Kidd was far closer to signing here than LaVine ever was.

[Ice009]

imo Kidd was far closer to signing here than LaVine ever was.

Absolutely. Kidd was much, much closer to signing here. If I recall it was his wife, Kenyon Martin calling him last minute and also not sure if TP being against it also made a difference, but I think Kidd was on his way to SA had his wife given him the go ahead.

[exstatic]

Absolutely. Kidd was much, much closer to signing here. If I recall it was his wife, Kenyon Martin calling him last minute and also not sure if TP being against it also made a difference, but I think Kidd was on his way to SA had his wife given him the go ahead.

His wife thought she could be some sort of media personality on the East Coast. His kid had an enormous head, and looked like he was from Krypton, or something. Bottom line: if you pick Kenyon Martin over Tim Duncan, you deserve to wait almost a decade for a ring.

[Chinook]

Lavine coming to SA depended in large part on Murray selling him on it. Seems like DJM was more inclined to be recruited than to recruit himself.

[lefty]

Man you know it's gonna be a long season for the Spurs when Spurs fans keep posting about former players :lol

[rjv]

His wife thought she could be some sort of media personality on the East Coast. His kid had an enormous head, and looked like he was from Krypton, or something. Bottom line: if you pick Kenyon Martin over Tim Duncan, you deserve to wait almost a decade for a ring.

well, you know, kidd loved his wife so much he was willing to sacrifice for her. i wonder how that marriage worked out.

[SpurSpike]

well, you know, kidd loved his wife so much he was willing to sacrifice for her. i wonder how that marriage worked out.

January 9, 2007, Jason Kidd filed for divorce against his wife, citing "extreme cruelty" during their relationship. Kidd contended intense jealousy, paranoia, and the threat of "false domestic abuse claims" to the police as reasons for the divorce.

[rjv]

January 9, 2007, Jason Kidd filed for divorce against his wife, citing "extreme cruelty" during their relationship. Kidd contended intense jealousy, paranoia, and the threat of "false domestic abuse claims" to the police as reasons for the divorce.

yeah, i knew it ended horribly. not sure who to believe. kidd had plead no contest to domestic battery charges years before and he has a history. then again, his wife was pretty kooky. she has had moderate success with her "acting" career though.

[exstatic]

yeah, i knew it ended horribly. not sure who to believe. kidd had plead no contest to domestic battery charges years before and he has a history. then again, his wife was pretty kooky. she has had moderate success with her "acting" career though.

Nothing says it has to be one or the other. They may both be horrible.

I've always considered it a bullet dodged that he didn't sign here, both because he underbussed people all through his career, and we likely wouldn't have been able to keep Manu and Tony with him on the roster.

[ismael-robert]

Nothing says it has to be one or the other. They may both be horrible.

I've always considered it a bullet dodged that he didn't sign here, both because he underbussed people all through his career, and we likely wouldn't have been able to keep Manu and Tony with him on the roster.

They were gonna trade tony for him so yeah keeping both was never plan

[R. DeMurre]

I never thought Lavine was signing here. Got that super tease JKidd vibe right off the bat.


Yeah, I thought the same. But it is satisfying to hear Kidd in later interviews admit he made a mistake by not joining the Spurs. The three guard rotation of Manu/Kidd/Parker would've been incredible.

[exstatic]

They were gonna trade tony for him so yeah keeping both was never plan

There would have been no reason to do that. We had the cap room to sign Kidd outright. I can see them trading Tony afterwards for assets, buy why give him away for essentially nothing?

[rogcl1]

They were gonna trade tony for him so yeah keeping both was never plan

You are revising history. There was no plan to trade Tony. Kidd was signing as a free agent.

[MI21]

Ah man, that offseason. I always wanted to Jermaine O'Neal over Kidd.

Parker
Manu
Bowen
Duncan
J.O'Neal

:spin

[Down Under]

You are revising history. There was no plan to trade Tony. Kidd was signing as a free agent.
It was after the 2011 season they were trying to trade Parker for Jason Thompson & the 7th pick from the Kings IIRC

[GAustex]

You are revising history. There was no plan to trade Tony. Kidd was signing as a free agent.
I think you are correct
There was some gripping over how Tony and Kidd would be able to play together

[Ice009]

Ah man, that offseason. I always wanted to Jermaine O'Neal over Kidd.

Parker
Manu
Bowen
Duncan
J.O'Neal

:spin

Yeah, now I remember. I wanted Jermaine O'neal too. I didn't want Kidd cause I thought Tony would be good enough and Jermaine would have been another twin towers with TD and himself. I don't think the Spurs seriously went after him, though. Not sure if that's because he told them he's staying in Indiana or if they wanted Kidd more. Either player IMO would have been great on the Spurs. TP wanted to be the PG, though, but I believe if they played together since they're all unselfish, it would have worked between Kidd, Tony and Manu. I think we ended up with Rasho instead, which sucked :(. They guy was a good person and solid player, but going from J Kidd or J O'neal to Rasho was a big letdown that offseason.

[exstatic]

Ah man, that offseason. I always wanted to Jermaine O'Neal over Kidd.

Parker
Manu
Bowen
Duncan
J.O'Neal

:spin

Jermaine wanted to come here, but he was loyal to Isaiah Thomas as his coach in Indy. Bird assured him that Thomas would be retained. JO re-signed with the Pacers, and Thomas was fired before the season started.

[rogcl1]

It was after the 2011 season they were trying to trade Parker for Jason Thompson & the 7th pick from the Kings IIRC

Don't know about that. I was talking about the Kidd signing which was 2003. Trading Parker was not part of the Kidd workings. You are pulling something up eight years later which I also doubt.

[Chinook]

Parker actually spoiled the whole thing on a French radio show by telling them his trade rumors were a smokescreen. The plan was to trade Hill for Leonard all along. The Valanciunas talk wasn't real.

[ismael-robert]

I'm referring to every year kidd wasn't a free agent

[Down Under]

Parker actually spoiled the whole thing on a French radio show by telling them his trade rumors were a smokescreen. The plan was to trade Hill for Leonard all along. The Valanciunas talk wasn't real.
It seemed they got extremely lucky with him being on the board at 15, despite his offensive limitations in college. A player with those physical tools, even in 2011, would normally be gone in top 10.

[Down Under]

Don't know about that. I was talking about the Kidd signing which was 2003. Trading Parker was not part of the Kidd workings. You are pulling something up eight years later which I also doubt.
I'm referring to how the person you quoted confused the two separate events.
https://www.espn.com.au/nba/draft2011/news/story?id=6689841

[Dejounte]

Off topic, but wondering what your upside of Keldon looks like? I'm fairly low on his defense (lateral movement, getting around screens etc), but his offense seems to be sky high (Euro floater & elite 3 point shooting added last season). Sorry if you've posted a million times, I'm not on here much anymore

I’m not high on him as a perimeter-focused defender either but if I believe a player’s offense can grow over time, I’ll keep an open mind that defense can grow too.

The only way another dimension is added to his offense is if his dribbling skills have improved over the offseason.

I’d say the more realistic expectation is that he’s able to take hesitation moves into a pull up J now rather than relying on points purely from a catch and shoot position.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

WTF happen between his entire tenure in SA and the offseason got traded? truly surprising

https://i.imgflip.com/6psqwf.jpg

[KingKev]

Hawks vs Magic opening night.

DJ vs Paulo.

must see tv LOL

I’m laughing but at the same time man we fell off.

[slick'81]

https://youtu.be/Meb5OzGtDnE

[exstatic]

https://youtu.be/Meb5OzGtDnE

He WAS a fucking gang member. His granny ran a crew. He’s admitted it in interviews. It’s why he was still there at #29.

[KingKev]

Murray top 5 Spur PG of all time. Crazy

[rastaspur]

Hard to imagine it's worse than the 405 on the westside of LA. When I first got to LA a friend suggested going to an Angels game so we left at 4:30 to get there early. About a 40 mile drive from UCLA but didn't even get to the stadium to park until the middle of the first inning after a 7:30 start. And all the traffic was the highways, was smooth sailing into the stadium by the time I got to Anaheim since the game had already started. :lol

La is awful. For sure. What was supposed to be a weed run (pre legalization) from Beverly hills to malibu took a whole day. Just stuck in Malibu for hours barely moving.

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Ah man, that offseason. I always wanted to Jermaine O'Neal over Kidd.

Parker
Manu
Bowen
Duncan
J.O'Neal

:spin

same. thought Jermaine would have been especially goodwith that team

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La is awful. For sure. What was supposed to be a weed run (pre legalization) from Beverly hills to malibu took a whole day. Just stuck in Malibu for hours barely moving.

Time dilation is a bitch.

[KingKev]

LBJ, Dejounte, Tatum, Chet and Paulo playing at the crawsover today…

[dbestpro]

Murray top 5 Spur PG of all time. Crazy
What's the standard. What he meant to the Spurs as a player, stats or career?

[KingKev]

Lol Crawsover was cancelled due to condensation as it was hot AF, but before they ended the game Chet slipped and rolled an ankle.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Lol Crawsover was cancelled due to condensation as it was hot AF, but before they ended the game Chet slipped and rolled an ankle.

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