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baseline bum
11-12-2022, 10:55 AM
Oz was not a great candidate.
But we are talking about a guy in Fetterman that appears to be mentally incapacitated, now heading to the US senate.
You guys love to slam Walker for being a dumb jock with a luke warm IQ, but are perfectly ok with Sloth from the Goonies, aka Fetterman, because he is on the left. :dizzy
Fetterman has a degree from Harvard dipshit. If you have ever seen a Harvard class, they're fucking difficult as hell.
ChumpDumper
11-12-2022, 10:55 AM
Oz was not a great candidate.
But we are talking about a guy in Fetterman that appears to be mentally incapacitated, now heading to the US senate.
You guys love to slam Walker for being a dumb jock with a luke warm IQ, but are perfectly ok with Sloth from the Goonies, aka Fetterman, because he is on the left. :dizzy
U mad.
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 11:00 AM
**Reposting because I'm not gonna let my essay wallow at the bottom of the page :lol**
For me, I think the most surprising thing about these elections was how well Dems performed in state legislature races. These have historically been our weak point and the performance was massive
-Dems held all of the state legislature chambers they controlled (I think that's the only time a party has done that in a midterm election when their party is in the White House)
-prevented a super majority in Wisconsin so Evers still has veto power (doesn't seem like much but that required winning Trump districts given how hyper gerrymandered Wisconsin's map is)
-prevented a super majority in North Carolina so Cooper still has veto power (again doesn't sound like much, but the NC GOP was expecting to have a super majority in both houses)
-took the Minnesota state senate (this is huge because it gives them a trifecta to legalize marijuana and make the Minnesota legalize weed party irrelevant)
-won the PA state house outright
-picked up seats in the PA state senate (would have won the PA state senate if more state senate districts were up this year)
-won BOTH the state house and state senate in Michigan (this is the biggest one...they can now repeal right to work, pass a bunch of election laws to improve turnout in Detroit, join the NPVIC, pass a $15 min wage, etc.)
-came within a seat of tying in the New Hampshire state house
-picked up seats in the GA state leg despite how well Kemp did statewide
-still have an outside chance of tying or winning one or both chambers of the AZ state leg (if/when they get a trifecta in AZ, the Dems are gonna go sicko mode)
Was ceding all of this state level control to the Democrats REALLY worth it just so the GOP could overturn Roe and "save" a bunch of (predominantly black) fetuses they won't give a fuck about after they're born
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 11:29 AM
Sadly the math for a house majority isn't there for Dems.
Here's how I'd rate the races where I'm not 90+% sure if the winner yet:
AZ-01: toss-up/tilt D
AZ-06: likely R
WA-03: lean D
CO-03: likely R
CA-03: likely R
CA-22: toss-up
CA-27: toss-up/tilt R
CA-41: tilt R
CA-45: lean R
The GOP has 213 seats without these. I'm not 90+% sure they'll win CO-03, CA-03, and AZ-06 but I'm probably 75+% sure, that gets them to 216. Seats left:
AZ-01: toss-up/tilt D
WA-03: lean D
CA-22: toss-up
CA-27: toss-up/tilt R
CA-41: tilt R
CA-45: lean R
My best guess as to what happens:
-Dems win AZ-01 and WA-03
-Steel holds her seat (CA-45 stays red)
-Calvert barely loses his seat (CA-41 goes blue; surprising but my read there is that Calvert did the same thing that Chabot and Schweikert did getting put in a bluer district and not even pretending to moderate themselves)
At that point the GOP has 217 seats and the Dems have 216. They'd need to beat both Valadao and Garcia to win, and I think that's unlikely.
End result: The GOP wins a house majority, but by the skin of its teeth, and relying a lot on Rs in NY/CA districts that Biden won by 10+% who are never going to go along with McCarthy bringing a sledgehammer to the debt ceiling fight.
Blake
11-12-2022, 11:32 AM
Fetterman has a degree from Harvard dipshit. If you have ever seen a Harvard class, they're fucking difficult as hell.
Yeah but have you ever tried to run a football against the Bama defense?
Yeah, didn't think so
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 11:34 AM
I'd seriously vote for OJ Simpson over Herschel Walker.
Both of them tried to murder their wife, but OJ was actually competent enough to get the job done.
If I have to choose between two murderous psychopaths, I want a US senator who's competent enough to murder his wife and get away with it.
Spurminator
11-12-2022, 11:48 AM
You are in here quite often so I would bet you click on all of them :lol
Ok, now back on the ignore list you go :tu
Imagine unhiding a post from someone you're "ignoring" when they're not even replying to you. :lol
Spurminator
11-12-2022, 11:59 AM
I'd seriously vote for OJ Simpson over Herschel Walker.
Both of them tried to murder their wife, but OJ was actually competent enough to get the job done.
If I have to choose between two murderous psychopaths, I want a US senator who's competent enough to murder his wife and get away with it.
Don't know why these guys try to pretend it's about anything but the (R). They're voting for Walker because he can be relied upon to fall in line with establishment Republicans on all of their votes. Frankly if he was running as a Dem most Dems would do the same thing. If they voted at all.
florige
11-12-2022, 12:01 PM
Don't know why these guys try to pretend it's about anything but the (R). They're voting for Walker because he can be relied upon to fall in line with establishment Republicans on all of their votes. Frankly if he was running as a Dem most Dems would do the same thing. If they voted at all.
I’m hoping Dems never run a candidate as brain dead as Walker no matter how he votes
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 12:02 PM
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Monostradamus
11-12-2022, 12:08 PM
Imagine unhiding a post from someone you're "ignoring" when they're not even replying to you. :lol
:lmao
baseline bum
11-12-2022, 12:12 PM
Don't know why these guys try to pretend it's about anything but the (R). They're voting for Walker because he can be relied upon to fall in line with establishment Republicans on all of their votes. Frankly if he was running as a Dem most Dems would do the same thing. If they voted at all.
A thug like Walker couldn't win a Democratic senate primary.
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 12:19 PM
Don't know why these guys try to pretend it's about anything but the (R). They're voting for Walker because he can be relied upon to fall in line with establishment Republicans on all of their votes. Frankly if he was running as a Dem most Dems would do the same thing. If they voted at all.
Long answer but I think it's pretty clear why once you think about it.
25+ years of Fox News and right wing AM radio has turned modern day conservatism in America into a contest of who can act like the biggest parody level retard and trigger the libs. This started way before Trump and it's going to keep happening after Trump's fatass is dead. It's not about governance anymore for the GOP. For awhile it was about at least pretending to be interested in governing so the GOP could hold onto suburban voters, now it's a literal contest of who can demonstrate the strongest disinterest in governing.
And that's why Republicans can't just admit they think Herschel Walker is a severely flawed and troubled person who they're holding their nose and voting for just because he's an R - because it wouldn't be true.
Herschel being a parody level hypocrite who talks about black men needing to be better fathers while he's a deadbeat dad who pays for his girlfriends to get abortions, makes shit up about working in law enforcement when all he has is an honorary badge that 8 year olds get going on a field trip to the police station, etc. is precisely what people like Chris, Derptacular, Millenniall_Messiah, Dirk's Finale, etc. like about Herschel Walker. That's why they don't just admit they're voting for him despite all of his flaws - it's because they don't view those things as flaws. They view those things as characteristics that make Herschel a real conservative patriot.
It's the same reason why candidates like Herschel, JR Majewski, Doug Mastriano, Kari Lake, etc. win primaries by saying the most insanely retarded shit imaginable. It's what conservatives want now.
Leetonidas
11-12-2022, 12:23 PM
Lol at the righties whining about mentally incapable candidates when they backed literal retards like Trump and CTE brain damaged candidates like Walker :lol
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 12:29 PM
Fetterman wasn't even the most incapacitated statewide candidate in Pennsylvania this year :lol
For governor, the PA GOP nominated a Christian nationalist bible thumping shitsack (Mastriano) who thought that by going on a "campaign fast" it would make god intervene and ensure he won the race for governor.
Mastriano is still retweeting stuff about how people need to go out and vote for Mastriano as recently as this morning. I'm not joking...he's so fucking stupid that he doesn't understand the election is over and that you can't go vote for Mastriano anymore :lmao
baseline bum
11-12-2022, 12:29 PM
Long answer but I think it's pretty clear why once you think about it.
25+ years of Fox News and right wing AM radio has turned modern day conservatism in America into a contest of who can act like the biggest parody level retard and trigger the libs. This started way before Trump and it's going to keep happening after Trump's fatass is dead. It's not about governance anymore for the GOP. For awhile it was about at least pretending to be interested in governing so the GOP could hold onto suburban voters, now it's a literal contest of who can demonstrate the strongest disinterest in governing.
And that's why Republicans can't just admit they think Herschel Walker is a severely flawed and troubled person who they're holding their nose and voting for just because he's an R - because it wouldn't be true.
Herschel being a parody level hypocrite who talks about black men needing to be better fathers while he's a deadbeat dad who pays for his girlfriends to get abortions, makes shit up about working in law enforcement when all he has is an honorary badge that 8 year olds get going on a field trip to the police station, etc. is precisely what people like Chris, Derptacular, Millenniall_Messiah, Dirk's Finale, etc. like about Herschel Walker. That's why they don't just admit they're voting for him despite all of his flaws - it's because they don't view those things as flaws. They view those things as characteristics that make Herschel a real conservative patriot.
It's the same reason why candidates like Herschel, JR Majewski, Doug Mastriano, Kari Lake, etc. win primaries by saying the most insanely retarded shit imaginable. It's what conservatives want now.
Yeah it's Trumps all the way down in the GOP now. Trump and those like him are what right wing radio has been priming its audience to want since the mid 90s. It's hilarious hearing Glen Beck start crying about his outrage of the day in the morning, then Rush Limbaugh would throw an anger fit on the same outrage of the day topic in the lunchtime time slot, then Hannity starts whining about the same outrage of the day topic in the early afternoon, back to back to back beating the drum to evoke emotional responses from their listeners. At least that fat tub of shit Limbaugh is in a better place now.
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 12:34 PM
It's like this motherfucker wants people to think he's a serial killer
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Millennial_Messiah
11-12-2022, 01:43 PM
If Trump is on the ballot it definitely helps the GOP take out Sherrod Brown/Tester (the West Virginia seat is gone regardless) but I don't see a scenario where the GOP keeps the house if Trump is on the ballot. All of those New York wave babies who won because of Hochul's meltdown are dead on arrival if they're on the same ballot as Trump.
The GOP will lose a few seats in NY and CA but it will be more than made up by seats won back in the upper Midwest if Trump is on the ballot.
Also don't forget that the NC Supreme Court got flipped like we expected, and one of their first measures next year will be to redraw the map, probably picking up 3-4 seats in the process (Bo Hines lost unexpectedly, and they'll also crack the Winston-Salem and Greensboro blue seats big time).
If we have a recession by 2024 if Trump/DeSantis is on the ballot I fully expect to take back senate seats in not just WV, MT, OH but also WI, MI, AZ, NV and others are in play. VA in play in it's Youngkin vs. Kaine. NJ in play depending on who the candidates are. PA... who knows. Casey is stronger than Fetterman but we'll have to see. MN... Klobuchar likely to overperform Biden so likely not. But we'll see. Plenty of room for a very solid Senate majority but it will be hard to get to 60.
GOP will be playing defense in zero senate seats in '24 assuming Ted Cruz retires which all signs point to.
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 01:50 PM
The GOP will lose a few seats in NY and CA but it will be more than made up by seats won back in the upper Midwest if Trump is on the ballot.
The GOP would lose NY-03, NY-04, NY-17, NY-19, CA-45, CA-41, CA-22 and CA-27 with Trump on the ballot. That's 9 seats before you consider the seats Dems would gain in AZ, CO, OR and other anti-Trump states.
Name the upper Midwest seats that Dem incumbents would lose with Trump on the ballot.
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 01:54 PM
If we have a recession by 2024 if Trump/DeSantis is on the ballot I fully expect to take back senate seats in not just WV, MT, OH but also WI, MI, AZ, NV and others are in play. VA in play in it's Youngkin vs. Kaine. NJ in play depending on who the candidates are. PA... who knows. Casey is stronger than Fetterman but we'll have to see. MN... Klobuchar likely to overperform Biden so likely not. But we'll see. Plenty of room for a very solid Senate majority but it will be hard to get to 60.
:lmao thought Blake Masters, Doug Mastriano and JR Majewski would won - opinion discarded
:lmao saying that VA's senate seat would flip in a presidential year with an incumbent as popular as Kaine
ChumpDumper
11-12-2022, 01:56 PM
The GOP will lose a few seats in NY and CA but it will be more than made up by seats won back in the upper Midwest if Trump is on the ballot.
Also don't forget that the NC Supreme Court got flipped like we expected, and one of their first measures next year will be to redraw the map, probably picking up 3-4 seats in the process (Bo Hines lost unexpectedly, and they'll also crack the Winston-Salem and Greensboro blue seats big time).
If we have a recession by 2024 if Trump/DeSantis is on the ballot I fully expect to take back senate seats in not just WV, MT, OH but also WI, MI, AZ, NV and others are in play. VA in play in it's Youngkin vs. Kaine. NJ in play depending on who the candidates are. PA... who knows. Casey is stronger than Fetterman but we'll have to see. MN... Klobuchar likely to overperform Biden so likely not. But we'll see. Plenty of room for a very solid Senate majority but it will be hard to get to 60.
GOP will be playing defense in zero senate seats in '24 assuming Ted Cruz retires which all signs point to.
The fact you keep making predictions after hater-level failures is just adorable.
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 01:56 PM
:lmao wait, you think New Jersey's senate seat is in play?
Holy fuck your mom must have drank a lot when she was pregnant with you.
When was the last time we even had a competitive senate race in New Jersey?
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 01:58 PM
The fact you keep making predictions after hater-level failures is just adorable.
:lol you know 2022 was a really bad year for the GOP when they're already wishcasting about 2024
Millennial_Messiah
11-12-2022, 02:02 PM
The GOP would lose NY-03, NY-04, NY-17, NY-19, CA-45, CA-41, CA-22 and CA-27 with Trump on the ballot. That's 9 seats but you consider the seats Dems would gain in AZ, CO, OR and other anti-Trump states.
Name the upper Midwest seats that Dem incumbents would lose with Trump on the ballot.
First of all, you counted 8 seats in NY and CA, not 9.
Colorado? I don't believe Boebert underperforms 2022 in 2024 if Trump's on the ballot. Trumpian district, in fact, despite a blue state. O'Dea underperformed both Trump and Cory Gardner (either time).
Oregon? There's only one seat there, OR-05, and we'll just have to see how good the new incumbent will be; but it's hardly a blue seat.
AZ? The only one you might consider is Schweikert, assuming he wins this time, but I don't see him losing and underperforming in a presidential year.
I don't see both NY-03 and NY-04 flipping back; probably one of them, but the area has just gotten more conservative recently. The Hudson Valley seats without Zeldin on the ballot, probably. Valadao is toast and probably a couple others.
The Akron/Canton seat would flip back and if they get someone competent against Marcy Kaptur that is a Trump + seat and a red trending area. Now that the Cincinnati seat has a Democrat incumbent, I don't see that one flipping back. For Michigan, same applies to the West Michigan Democrat seat, now that Meijer is out like Chabot it's not flipping back red. But unlike MI-03, MI-07 and MI-08 are trending redder and will flip. They actually had strong candidates for those two this year but the blue wave hit Michigan pretty hard to their demise.
NC will gain 3-4 GOP seats by redistricting alone.
A couple Democrat incumbents in South Florida, including Wasserman, will be tested in '24. Not sure they'll actually flip but they are swinging hard to the right.
IN-01 could very well flip in '24 with a better national environment, no abortion on the ballot nationally and in many states etc.
Illinois could very well have 2-3 flips with a better national environment. Same for Pennsylvania, especially in NE PA.
If Youngkin wins or comes close in the Senate and the GOP performs better in VA in the general election year 2024, they could flip the Spanberger seat.
If Trump was on the ballot, Poliquin likely flips ME-02 instead of Golden winning again.
The redder of the two New Hampshire seats should flip, especially without a (D) senate incumbent on the ballot.
The Appalachian Maryland seat (Trone) almost flipped this week and should flip with Trump on the ballot, even if MD is a safe blue state as a whole.
NM will almost certainly get 1-2 flips (Harrell lost this time). TX rio grande valley could get 1-2 flips. Nevada could get 1-3 flips depending on how Lombardo does and the national environment.
Oh and there's one other possible trinket - that SCOTUS could throw out the VRA applying to congressional seats as a whole, which means that states like LA, MS, AL, GA, SC lose their only Democrat incumbent.
Spurs Homer
11-12-2022, 02:16 PM
For me, I think the most surprising thing about these elections was how well Dems performed in state legislature races. These have historically been our weak point and the performance was massive
-Dems held all of the state legislature chambers they controlled (I think that's the only time a party has done that in a midterm election when their party is in the White House)
-prevented a super majority in Wisconsin so Evers still has veto power (doesn't seem like much but that required winning Trump districts given how hyper gerrymandered Wisconsin's map is)
-prevented a super majority in North Carolina so Cooper still has veto power (again doesn't sound like much, but the NC GOP was expecting to have a super majority in both houses)
-took the Minnesota state senate (this is huge because it gives them a trifecta to legalize marijuana and make the Minnesota legalize weed party irrelevant)
-won the PA state house outright
-picked up seats in the PA state senate (would have won the PA state senate if more state senate districts were up this year)
-won BOTH the state house and state senate in Michigan (this is the biggest one...they can now repeal right to work, pass a bunch of election laws to improve turnout in Detroit, join the NPVIC, pass a $15 min wage, etc.)
-came within a seat of tying in the New Hampshire state house
-picked up seats in the GA state leg despite how well Kemp did statewide
-still have an outside chance of tying or winning one or both chambers of the AZ state leg (if/when they get a trifecta in AZ, the Dems are gonna go sicko mode)
Was ceding all of this state level control to the Democrats REALLY worth it just so the GOP could overturn Roe and "save" a bunch of (predominantly black) fetuses they won't give a fuck about after they're born :lmao
^ fucking nailed it!
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 02:26 PM
Colorado? I don't believe Boebert underperforms 2022 in 2024 if Trump's on the ballot. Trumpian district, in fact, despite a blue state.
It's not a Trumpian district. Trump won it by 13% in 2016, then by 8% in 2020. It's a lean R district that's trending left because of all the rich liberals moving there.
Oregon? There's only one seat there, OR-05, and we'll just have to see how good the new incumbent will be; but it's hardly a blue seat.
It's a Biden +9 seat that the Dems stopped funding because they believed polls that had them dead. Even then, the ugly ass dyke running for it almost won. Run a normal looking white guy and it's an easy flip.
AZ? The only one you might consider is Schweikert, assuming he wins this time, but I don't see him losing and underperforming in a presidential year.
Schweikert's district and Ciscomani's district are both districts Biden won, and they're both sprinting left (Phoenix suburbs and Tucson suburbs). They weren't even supposed to be competitive this year, and they would get a lot bluer with Trump on the ballot.
I don't see both NY-03 and NY-04 flipping back; probably one of them, but the area has just gotten more conservative recently.
:lmao the Long Island understander has logged on.
Biden won NY-03 by 8% and NY-04 by 14%; NY-04 is literally the bluest Republican-held district in the country. It's a certainty to flip back with Trump on the ballot and when black turnout is much higher in a presidential election.
The Akron/Canton seat would flip back and if they get someone competent against Marcy Kaptur that is a Trump + seat and a red trending area.
But they had someone competent last time according to you :lmao, you said fat faggot JR Majewski winning was a certainty
MI-07 and MI-08 are trending redder and will flip. They actually had strong candidates for those two this year but the blue wave hit Michigan pretty hard to their demise.
MI-07 went from Trump +4 to Biden +1 from 2016 to 2020. It get 5 points bluer. Seriously, why do you just make shit up?
You also said MI-08 was flipping this year. I guess if you just predict it every year you'll eventually be right.
NC will gain 3-4 GOP seats by redistricting alone.
Congrats, you're finally right about something.
A couple Democrat incumbents in South Florida, including Wasserman, will be tested in '24. Not sure they'll actually flip but they are swinging hard to the right.
Maybe they flip at the end of the decade but not in 2024. They all won comfortably in 2022 and in 2024 the Dems will still lose Florida but it's not going to be as lopsided.
IN-01 could very well flip in '24 with a better national environment, no abortion on the ballot nationally and in many states etc.
There was no abortion on the ballot in Indiana this year and the Dem still won.
It's totally illogical to assume a typically more neutral presidential election is going to be a better environment for Republicans than a midterm year with a Dem in the White House.
Illinois could very well have 2-3 flips with a better national environment. Same for Pennsylvania, especially in NE PA.
At this point you're not even making serious predictions. You're just repeating various forms of "if my uncle had a pussy, then he could be my aunt!"
If Youngkin wins or comes close in the Senate and the GOP performs better in VA in the general election year 2024, they could flip the Spanberger seat.
Again this isn't a prediction, you're just talking about what might happen if the stars align. Youngkin barely won statewide in Virginia in an off cycle election because black voters are lazy and don't show up for off cycle elections. In a presidential election they would show up the way the normally do.
Spanberger is a always an overperformer who held a seat Trump won in 2020.
If Trump was on the ballot, Poliquin likely flips ME-02 instead of Golden winning again.
Right, because it's not like Golden held the seat in 2020 when Trump AND Susan Collins (the most revered politician in ME-02) were both on the ballot.
That seat isn't flipping as long as Golden is in it. New England voters (esp northern New England) have a huge incumbent bias. The only way it flips is if Golden runs for senate (which he could)
The redder of the two New Hampshire seats should flip, especially without a (D) senate incumbent on the ballot.
It's a seat Biden won in 2020 and Pappas is a popular incumbent. You have no national basis for this.
The Appalachian Maryland seat (Trone) almost flipped this week and should flip with Trump on the ballot, even if MD is a safe blue state as a whole.
It's a seat Biden won by 12% in 2020 and Trone held it despite being a grossly flawed candidate. What's the logic behind Trump being on the ballot as something that helps flips a seat that he lost by 12%?
Oh and there's one other possible trinket - that SCOTUS could throw out the VRA applying to congressional seats as a whole, which means that states like LA, MS, AL, GA, SC lose their only Democrat incumbent.
What the fuck do you mean "their only Democrat incumbent" Georgia has 5 Democrat incumbents you gum recessed face anus.
That's also not how that would work. Those states all passed maps that are in place for the decade. If SCOTUS invalidates the VRA it has implications in 2030 but it wouldn't give those states a license to pass new maps mid-decade (same reason why states didn't pass now maps in 2013 after SCOTUS gutted pre-clearance).
Millennial_Messiah
11-12-2022, 02:36 PM
What the fuck do you mean "their only Democrat incumbent" Georgia has 5 Democrat incumbents you gum recessed face anus.
That's also not how that would work. Those states all passed maps that are in place for the decade. If SCOTUS invalidates the VRA it has implications in 2030 but it wouldn't give those states a license to pass new maps mid-decade (same reason why states didn't pass now maps in 2013 after SCOTUS gutted pre-clearance).
You know what I meant - GA-02. I was thinking about the other southern states but decided to throw GA in there over GA-02 because of that district being competitive but lean D and VRA protected despite being largely rural.
Louisiana is the one I believe is still being challenged in court, because the Dems wanted 2 seats. If they get greedy as we saw in NY and try to overturn it, then they could feasibly get a 5-0 map drawn before 2030. The other states, like MS and SC, I believe you're right.
Blake
11-12-2022, 02:47 PM
I’m hoping Dems never run a candidate as brain dead as Walker no matter how he votes
I think the more educated a logical person becomes about issues, the more likely they are to align themselves with liberal ideals on the whole.
I mean, just look at this board
Ef-man
11-12-2022, 02:48 PM
:lmao wait, you think New Jersey's senate seat is in play?
Holy fuck your mom must have drank a lot when she was pregnant with you.
When was the last time we even had a competitive senate race in New Jersey?
:lmao
ElNono
11-12-2022, 02:52 PM
Oz was not a great candidate.
But we are talking about a guy in Fetterman that appears to be mentally incapacitated, now heading to the US senate.
You guys love to slam Walker for being a dumb jock with a luke warm IQ, but are perfectly ok with Sloth from the Goonies, aka Fetterman, because he is on the left. :dizzy
Maybe running a new, shiny object pretending to be an outsider just wasn't a great idea? Normally you end up doing that when you really can't win on platform/ideas.
Oz wasn't a bad candidate, but you can only change the seller of a dud so many times until people figure out that they're buying into the same shit.
Spurminator
11-12-2022, 03:01 PM
A thug like Walker couldn't win a Democratic senate primary.
Oh I agree, and that's a big difference. To run as a MAGA Republican you have to either be a highly educated sociopath or an absolutely shameless rube with a name. They don't have a lot of people to choose from.
Spurminator
11-12-2022, 03:06 PM
Long answer but I think it's pretty clear why once you think about it.
25+ years of Fox News and right wing AM radio has turned modern day conservatism in America into a contest of who can act like the biggest parody level retard and trigger the libs. This started way before Trump and it's going to keep happening after Trump's fatass is dead. It's not about governance anymore for the GOP. For awhile it was about at least pretending to be interested in governing so the GOP could hold onto suburban voters, now it's a literal contest of who can demonstrate the strongest disinterest in governing.
And that's why Republicans can't just admit they think Herschel Walker is a severely flawed and troubled person who they're holding their nose and voting for just because he's an R - because it wouldn't be true.
Herschel being a parody level hypocrite who talks about black men needing to be better fathers while he's a deadbeat dad who pays for his girlfriends to get abortions, makes shit up about working in law enforcement when all he has is an honorary badge that 8 year olds get going on a field trip to the police station, etc. is precisely what people like Chris, Derptacular, Millenniall_Messiah, Dirk's Finale, etc. like about Herschel Walker. That's why they don't just admit they're voting for him despite all of his flaws - it's because they don't view those things as flaws. They view those things as characteristics that make Herschel a real conservative patriot.
It's the same reason why candidates like Herschel, JR Majewski, Doug Mastriano, Kari Lake, etc. win primaries by saying the most insanely retarded shit imaginable. It's what conservatives want now.
I don't know that they put that much thought into it. Someone like Herschel Walker having a decent chance at one of the 52 most powerful positions in the US government is an irritating thing for anyone who cares about democracy, and the only people who care about democracy anymore are libs.
In other words, Herschel Walker is a reliable Trumper and he irritates the libs, so Republicans love him.
Winehole23
11-12-2022, 03:19 PM
"Unforced error: we told the truth about our platform and voters didn't like it"
New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu (https://thehill.com/people/chris-sununu/)(R) said Sens. Lindsey Graham (https://thehill.com/people/lindsey-graham/)(R-S.C.) and Rick Scott (https://thehill.com/people/rick-scott/)(R-Fla.) cost the GOP in the midterm elections with their respective comments (https://www.siriusxm.com/clips/clip/65cfb29a-195e-4b44-91fb-9e855ad51e03/cf7ad884-a867-49d9-8ed0-b4012453bcda) on abortion and Social Security.
Sununu said on “Julie Mason Mornings” on SiriusXM’s POTUS channel in an interview (https://www.siriusxm.com/clips/clip/65cfb29a-195e-4b44-91fb-9e855ad51e03/14033dab-e1ae-44af-b91f-131060378b94) that aired on Friday that Graham “didn’t do anybody any favors” when he proposed a 15-week national abortion ban, nor did Scott with his comments in support of requiring Congress to renew Social Security every five years instead of it being automatically renewed.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731062-sununu-says-graham-scott-cost-gop-with-abortion-social-security-remarks/
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 03:37 PM
"Unforced error: we told the truth about our platform and voters didn't like it"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731062-sununu-says-graham-scott-cost-gop-with-abortion-social-security-remarks/
Sununu was a real one when he said he wasn’t gonna run for senate just because he didn’t like McConnell and Rick Scott.
Winehole23
11-12-2022, 04:42 PM
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Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 05:11 PM
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Trafailgar isn't even a real pollster. The fling shit at the wall and said shit happened to be right in '16 and '20.
Can't wait to see 538 tank their pollster grade.
Winehole23
11-12-2022, 05:43 PM
interesting if this holds up -- exit polls can be pretty iffy
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Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 07:52 PM
HOUSE UPDATE
- The new batch of ballots makes it highly unlikely that Kent wins; WA-03 is a flip for the Dems
- The new LA County ballots make it highly unlikely the Dems flip CA-22; probably a hold for Garcia
- I was premature in calling AZ-06 a 75% chance the Rs win. The latest Pima drop makes it a 0.4% difference.
Long story short, Dems need to flip each of these seats to win a house majority, here's how I'd rate them:
AZ-01: toss-up/tilt D
AZ-06: lean R
CA-41: tilt R
CA-22: toss-up
Spurs Homer
11-12-2022, 09:16 PM
Ohr shit…
masto in nevada…
winner winner chicken dinner!
Will Hunting
11-12-2022, 09:18 PM
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Spurs Homer
11-12-2022, 09:19 PM
Both cnn and nbc called it already
Spurs Homer
11-12-2022, 09:19 PM
:lol:lol:lol:cry:cry
moscow mitch!
ElNono
11-12-2022, 09:41 PM
Kari Lake's going to win, so you Democrats can chew on that one at least.
This might end up being the kiss of death right here, tbh
Splits
11-12-2022, 09:47 PM
This might end up being the kiss of death right here, tbh
https://i.giphy.com/media/JCAZQKoMefkoX6TyTb/giphy.webp
Leetonidas
11-12-2022, 10:03 PM
:lmao red team quite AF the last few days
ChumpDumper
11-13-2022, 12:17 AM
Not so clear after all.
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Isitjustme?
11-13-2022, 02:31 AM
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Sad trombone
FrostKing
11-13-2022, 02:38 AM
https://i.ibb.co/SmDG6Wk/Lt-Gov-John-Fetterman-Portrait-46874790005-1.jpg
ChumpDumper
11-13-2022, 02:52 AM
https://i.ibb.co/SmDG6Wk/Lt-Gov-John-Fetterman-Portrait-46874790005-1.jpg
It still hurts?
Isitjustme?
11-13-2022, 02:57 AM
Crying time indeed
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benefactor
11-13-2022, 03:15 AM
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Sad trombone
:lol...these assholes made their own losing political issue when they started chasing women's reproductive organs with a baseball bat. They literally handed political races to the Dems when the judgement came down.
FrostKing
11-13-2022, 03:17 AM
It still hurts?
It's politics I'm here to laugh at everyone involved especially the goof in the photo.
Winehole23
11-13-2022, 03:56 AM
If Bass's lead holds, Caruso will have paid $100M for the L.
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Winehole23
11-13-2022, 04:00 AM
:lol...these assholes made their own losing political issue when they started chasing women's reproductive organs with a baseball bat. They literally handed political races to the Dems when the judgement came down.All SCOTUS had to do was wait until after the midterms to overturn Roe. Not doing so was an epic mistake, I hope the GOP is still committed to the bit. Midterm voting results suggest that the party strategy of amping up hate on women, lgtb and immigrants made the GOP look like out of touch elites.
Brazil
11-13-2022, 08:23 AM
How in hell repugs fucked that up ? :lmao
Will Hunting
11-13-2022, 08:33 AM
How in hell repugs fucked that up ? :lmao
Turns out proposing a Hunter Biden investigation subcommittee as the solution to inflation and gas prices didn't resonate very well with voters.
pgardn
11-13-2022, 09:30 AM
It's politics I'm here to laugh at everyone involved especially the goof in the photo.
Your politics has been made clear on this board but you come to laugh?
Frosty trying to edge his way out a slightly open door like he wont be noticed.
Frosty Free of all political bias... sure thing...
Will Hunting
11-13-2022, 09:32 AM
Tester has a pretty uphill battle in 2024, but one of these knucklefucks as his opponent definitely makes it easier
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pgardn
11-13-2022, 09:40 AM
All SCOTUS had to do was wait until after the midterms to overturn Roe. Not doing so was an epic mistake, I hope the GOP is still committed to the bit. Midterm voting results suggest that the party strategy of amping up hate on women, lgtb and immigrants made the GOP look like out of touch elites.
The red team showed us who they are.
Thats a good thing. Trump gave them the freedom to show the rest of us how ignorant a large portion of our voting population is imo.
They have shown us they are wedded to lying and creating schemes to rig voting. (Way past gerrymandering which both parties use(d))
My question really involves asking people if they believe Trump really won the election and what they thought about his efforts to turn the results around.
When will this denial and obvious stupid strategy to steal the election become a badge of shame? When will they be looked at as flat earthers? I want this basic survey so I know who is in total denial and willfully ignorant among our leaders. We are attempting to have some sort of democratic flavor to our elections. I want to know who wants a king and is willing to be a stupid serf. I want to see the swastika. And not to punish them, just as a sign of honesty about who they are.
ElNono
11-13-2022, 10:19 AM
If Bass's lead holds, Caruso will have paid $100M for the L.
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Not sure what's worse, losing that much money or be shamed to masquerade as a (D) to be competitive....
Dirks_Finale
11-13-2022, 04:46 PM
GTFO :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPyORC9nZnI
Fetterman has a degree from Harvard dipshit. If you have ever seen a Harvard class, they're fucking difficult as hell.
Will Hunting
11-13-2022, 05:02 PM
GTFO :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPyORC9nZnI
He had a stroke that he's not fully recovered from.
Herschel Walker has CTE and it's only getting worse.
Do you really not see the distinction?
Dirks_Finale
11-13-2022, 05:06 PM
He had a stroke that he's not fully recovered from.
Herschel Walker has CTE and it's only getting worse.
Do you really not see the distinction?
How do you know that this is not it and that's all the recovery you are going to get, since its already been 6 months since the stroke?
Will Hunting
11-13-2022, 05:24 PM
How do you know that this is not it and that's all the recovery you are going to get, since its already been 6 months since the stroke?
Not going to answer your question when you're refusing to answer my question.
FrostKing
11-13-2022, 05:35 PM
https://i.ibb.co/6DCPTKN/Screenshot-20221113-143337-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/3SRVRdJ/29488557-john-fetterman-demokrat-pennsylvania-us-senat-2mofh-EPTbbfe.jpg
Sucking on mommy's titty until the age of 50
Today's American politician :lol
Millennial_Messiah
11-13-2022, 06:04 PM
:lol...these assholes made their own losing political issue when they started chasing women's reproductive organs with a baseball bat. They literally handed political races to the Dems when the judgement came down.
if the bullshit 19th amendment never happened, the GOP wins all the swing races fairly comfortably and gets 250+ / 53+ .
Take a page out of the Middle East's playbook. A naturally-born penis should be a bare minimum requirement in order to vote.
ChumpDumper
11-13-2022, 06:08 PM
https://i.ibb.co/6DCPTKN/Screenshot-20221113-143337-Chrome.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/3SRVRdJ/29488557-john-fetterman-demokrat-pennsylvania-us-senat-2mofh-EPTbbfe.jpg
Sucking on mommy's titty until the age of 50
Today's American politician :lolYou voted for Trump.
ChumpDumper
11-13-2022, 06:10 PM
How do you know that this is not it and that's all the recovery you are going to get, since its already been 6 months since the stroke?If he's actually incapacitated -- which doesn't look likely -- he can resign and the Democratic governor can appoint a replacement.:tu
Dirks_Finale
11-13-2022, 08:21 PM
If he's actually incapacitated -- which doesn't look likely -- he can resign and the Democratic governor can appoint a replacement.:tu
No, Fetterman is fine... his doctor, also a campaign donor, said so.
ChumpDumper
11-13-2022, 08:27 PM
No, Fetterman is fine... his doctor, also a campaign donor, said so.Why are you losing your shit over this?
Oz was a shitty carpetbagger candidate the people of PA did not want.
Fetterman will be fine or his replacement will be fine.
baseline bum
11-13-2022, 09:00 PM
Just had a drop from Maricopa that caused the betting markets to move from roughly ~80% Hobbs victory to ~95% Hobbs victory.
koriwhat
11-13-2022, 09:09 PM
Not sure what's worse, losing that much money or be shamed to masquerade as a (D) to be competitive....
Bro the commercials for Caruso were constant when I was visiting LA recently. "As a very Liberal Democrat, that is why I am voting for you to help us." "We'll help each other."
LMAO
Millennial_Messiah
11-13-2022, 09:30 PM
Why are you losing your shit over this?
Oz was a shitty carpetbagger candidate the people of PA did not want.
Fetterman will be fine or his replacement will be fine.
McCormick to Fetterman voting bloc had to make up for at least 5-7% minimum in the state if you look at trends.
Islamophobia carried the day in rural and western PA.
Just had a drop from Maricopa that caused the betting markets to move from roughly ~80% Hobbs victory to ~95% Hobbs victory.
Yeah, looking like the only victory across the board for the GOP / Trump in the entire USA is that Lombardo defeated Sisolak for the NV governor. Which isn't insignificant.
ElNono
11-13-2022, 09:38 PM
Bro the commercials for Caruso were constant when I was visiting LA recently. "As a very Liberal Democrat, that is why I am voting for you to help us." "We'll help each other."
LMAO
lmao, that dude was a registered (R) up until 2016, then he switched to "independent" until 2019 and now suddenly he's a Democrat :lmao:lmao:lmao
koriwhat
11-13-2022, 10:28 PM
lmao, that dude was a registered (R) up until 2016, then he switched to "independent" until 2019 and now suddenly he's a Democrat :lmao:lmao:lmao
Yeah my buddy out there in LA was telling me all about Caruso.
Millennial_Messiah
11-13-2022, 10:57 PM
lmao, that dude was a registered (R) up until 2016, then he switched to "independent" until 2019 and now suddenly he's a Democrat :lmao:lmao:lmao
seems like a pretty average "never Trumper" / anti Q person, tbh :tu
at the very worst for blue team, he's Liz Cheney.
Will Hunting
11-13-2022, 10:58 PM
Just had a drop from Maricopa that caused the betting markets to move from roughly ~80% Hobbs victory to ~95% Hobbs victory.
The math for Lake is impossible for now
baseline bum
11-13-2022, 11:11 PM
The math for Lake is impossible for now
Was looking at the 9 counties besides Maricopa and Pima that have 200+ ballots remaining and Hobbs should actually net gain at least 400 votes from them, mostly based on Apache County. Do you think it's impossible that Lake could pull 55% in the remaining Maricopa ballots though? Still don't think that would be enough but could make the race interesting.
Will Hunting
11-13-2022, 11:55 PM
Was looking at the 9 counties besides Maricopa and Pima that have 200+ ballots remaining and Hobbs should actually net gain at least 400 votes from them, mostly based on Apache County. Do you think it's impossible that Lake could pull 55% in the remaining Maricopa ballots though? Still don't think that would be enough but could make the race interesting.
It's possible but Lake pulling 55% of the remaining Maricopa ballots wouldn't be near enough.
ElNono
11-14-2022, 12:00 AM
Trump’s picks to oversee elections in key 2024 battlegrounds all lost
Cisco Aguilar’s victory in Nevada capped a sweep for Democrats after a furious campaign to call attention to their races.
Former President Donald Trump endorsed four Republicans for secretary of state positions in the general election, boosting candidates who have cast doubt on the legitimacy of U.S. elections in some of the most closely divided states.
Every single one of them lost.
Democratic incumbents Jocelyn Benson of Michigan and Steve Simon of Minnesota both beat back challenges. Arizona’s Adrian Fontes — a former elections official in the state’s largest county — won the open seat in his state. And this weekend, attorney and first-time candidate Cisco Aguilar was declared the winner in Nevada.
Their wins blocked a group of Republicans who deny President Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 election from overseeing the vote in key battlegrounds in 2024: Jim Marchant in Nevada, Mark Finchem in Arizona, Kristina Karamo in Michigan and Kim Crockett in Minnesota.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/13/trump-secretaries-of-state-elections-2024-00066627
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 12:04 AM
It's possible but Lake pulling 55% of the remaining Maricopa ballots wouldn't be near enough.
Problem is if most of the remaining ballots to be counted are ones dropped off on election date might not get that blue bump outside of Apache, which just seems slow as hell counting. If you make the simplifying assumption that each county other than Maricopa has its remaining votes split exactly as it has in the votes so far tabulated in each county Lake needs right around 55% of the remaining Maricopa ballots to finish just above Hobbs. However, Apache has like 9000 votes remaining (only 68% counted) so no way it's not still dealing with mail in votes that'll probably trend bluer than the 68-32 Hobbs split counted so far.
How have Lake's numbers looked in the last two Maricopa drops? I know the last one dropped her statewide deficit from 1.6% to 1.0%.
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 12:09 AM
Problem is if most of the remaining ballots to be counted are ones dropped off on election date might not get that blue bump outside of Apache, which just seems slow as hell counting. If you make the simplifying assumption that each county other than Maricopa has its remaining votes split exactly as it has in the votes so far tabulated in each county Lake needs right around 55% of the remaining Maricopa ballots to finish just above Hobbs. However, Apache has like 9000 votes remaining (only 68% counted) so no way it's not still dealing with mail in votes that'll probably trend bluer than the 68-32 Hobbs split counted so far.
How have Lake's numbers looked in the last two Maricopa drops? I know the last one dropped her statewide deficit from 1.6% to 1.0%.
I’m too tired to walk through the math but Lake would basically need 70% of the remaining vote in Maricopa which obv isn’t happening.
MultiTroll
11-14-2022, 12:10 AM
Skanky Lake is still alive?
I thought that got settled last night.
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 12:11 AM
Trump’s picks to oversee elections in key 2024 battlegrounds all lost
Cisco Aguilar’s victory in Nevada capped a sweep for Democrats after a furious campaign to call attention to their races.
Former President Donald Trump endorsed four Republicans for secretary of state positions in the general election, boosting candidates who have cast doubt on the legitimacy of U.S. elections in some of the most closely divided states.
Every single one of them lost.
Democratic incumbents Jocelyn Benson of Michigan and Steve Simon of Minnesota both beat back challenges. Arizona’s Adrian Fontes — a former elections official in the state’s largest county — won the open seat in his state. And this weekend, attorney and first-time candidate Cisco Aguilar was declared the winner in Nevada.
Their wins blocked a group of Republicans who deny President Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 election from overseeing the vote in key battlegrounds in 2024: Jim Marchant in Nevada, Mark Finchem in Arizona, Kristina Karamo in Michigan and Kim Crockett in Minnesota.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/13/trump-secretaries-of-state-elections-2024-00066627
Still the funniest result so far was WA-03. Fivethirtyeight had this 98% to 2% going red.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/house/washington/3/
But the GOP incumbent voted to impeach the shitstain for trying to overthrow the government, got primaried, and then the MAGAtard who won the nomination got beat in the general. :lmao
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 12:14 AM
I’m too tired to walk through the math but Lake would basically need 70% of the remaining vote in Maricopa which obv isn’t happening.
Where are you following the numbers? Is somewhere else more accurate than that Washington Post? Maybe it has some big rounding errors since it's reporting mostly in integer percentages for percentage remaining per county? Also is there a built-in assumption the other counties remaining votes are trending bluer than so far counted votes in the county by some fixed amount in the model you're using?
FrostKing
11-14-2022, 05:18 AM
McDonnell is 82 yrs old? Fuck off already
Young Men like me are the future of the Republican Party. I grew up and still am Liberal. I will help lead the way for Moderates.
FrostKing
11-14-2022, 05:36 AM
Running up the score pissed me off
Gloating
I would say enjoy the Holidays but you don't
Isitjustme?
11-14-2022, 05:50 AM
Attn ducks
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2017/07/McCainVote_GOP.gif
FrostKing
11-14-2022, 05:56 AM
Attn ducks
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2017/07/McCainVote_GOP.gif
Did your "team" win?
Isitjustme?
11-14-2022, 06:43 AM
Did your "team" win?
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Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 06:50 AM
Still the funniest result so far was WA-03. Fivethirtyeight had this 98% to 2% going red.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/house/washington/3/
But the GOP incumbent voted to impeach the shitstain for trying to overthrow the government, got primaried, and then the MAGAtard who won the nomination got beat in the general. :lmao
The MAGAtard who won that primary is a colossal retard too :lol
His entire campaign was "Muh wife died in Iraq :cry:cry:cry...vote for me pls :cry"
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 06:50 AM
Where are you following the numbers? Is somewhere else more accurate than that Washington Post? Maybe it has some big rounding errors since it's reporting mostly in integer percentages for percentage remaining per county? Also is there a built-in assumption the other counties remaining votes are trending bluer than so far counted votes in the county by some fixed amount in the model you're using?
This guy basically did the same math I did
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Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 07:06 AM
The Republican premature ejaculation over how Lake would win and be a great future VP candidate was a deja vu of Democrats premature ejaculating over Andrew Gillum being the next Barrack Obama 4 years ago.
When Lake got too full of herself and started making endorsements as if she was a national figure / telling McCain supporters to go fuck themselves, she left the door open for Hobbs when Hobbs was basically dead in the water.
Ef-man
11-14-2022, 08:36 AM
McDonnell is 82 yrs old? Fuck off already
Young Men like me are the future of the Republican Party. I grew up and still am Liberal. I will help lead the way for Moderates.
Things have changed, bigly. In the new GOP world, moderates like you are considered RINOs as you are not 100% a MAGAtard.
Dirks_Finale
11-14-2022, 09:23 AM
It's amazing that there are still people on the right who fail to realize that it is time to jump off of the Trump train. Yes, policy wise he was on target on many conservative issues, but the baggage he brings makes him a major liability.
The guy is obviously suffering from PTSD and can't STFU about 2020 and his hand picked candidates are not very appealing to the general public. Something I see the media just glossing over is that, in Ohio, Gov Dewine won by like 25 points and JD Vance won by 7...this in a state in which Dewine signed a fairly extreme abortion bill in. Pledging allegiance to Trump and an alternate reality is no-go going forward and the electorate made that clear. I have a few Trumper friends who are exceptional people, but still can't see WTF is going on here enough to step back and reassess, logically.
Democrats had bipartisan support immediately after Jan 6th to ban Trump from running for office again, but they purposely avoided it because they knew Trump can destroy the GOP from within, or as an independent. Trump is our Frankenstein and we can purge him from the party w/o being a total sellout like Liz Cheney. Youngkin gave us the playbook. Ignore him and his antics until he fades away in to obscurity. The cult will slowly dissolve over the next 2 years and if the economy continues it's crumble, then the losses you take with the remaining die-hard cult members, will be gained by independents.
We just have to figure out how to keep him from an independent run and Perot type spoiler.
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 09:28 AM
Democrats had bipartisan support immediately after Jan 6th to ban Trump from running for office again, but they purposely avoided it because they knew Trump can destroy the GOP from within, or as an independent.
This is bullshit.
The Dems voted on articles of impeachment and sent them to the senate for a trial just a couple of weeks after January 6th.
The GOP had the opportunity to convict and make Trump irrelevant, instead McConnell cucked out by claiming you can't impeach someone who isn't in office anymore (a belief with no constitutional precedent).
The Dems gave the GOP the opportunity to make Trump irrelevant and the GOP decided against it because it was worried what banishing Trump would do for rural turnout.
Turns out rural turnout for Trump candidates doesn't work unless Trump himself is on the ballot.
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 10:03 AM
This guy basically did the same math I did
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Guess I made an error in my math somewhere. Probably put a minus sign instead of a plus somewhere in the Mathematica worksheet I made lol.
Washington Post claims there are 93k Maricopa ballots but that would still only drop things to Lake needing to win the remaining Maricopa ballots 64-36 to tie Hobbs statewide if no other counties had outstanding votes.
Def looks nearly impossible for Lake though, especially with Apache County having nearly 9000 votes left and Pima 40,500 left if the Washington Post's numbers are correct.
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 10:11 AM
ROFL that GOP representatives are considering Trump for Speaker of the House
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 10:12 AM
Guess I made an error in my math somewhere. Probably put a minus sign instead of a plus somewhere in the Mathematica worksheet I made lol.
Washington Post claims there are 93k Maricopa ballots but that would still only drop things to Lake needing to win the remaining Maricopa ballots 64-36 to tie Hobbs statewide if no other counties had outstanding votes.
Def looks nearly impossible for Lake though, especially with Apache County having nearly 9000 votes left and Pima 40,500 left if the Washington Post's numbers are correct.
The 93k ballots includes earlies (not late earlies that favor the GOP, earlies that favor Dems) and provisionals (will also favor Dems).
The 74k number is the number of late earlies that Lake is relying on to close the margin and as he said, she'd need to win them by 35% even if you assume the other ballots left outstanding break even when they're definitely not going to since they're largely from Pima & Apache county.
Lake is done. Enjoy the pending frivolous lawsuits about voter fraud.
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 10:21 AM
I'd like the thank the MAGAtards for refusing vaccination and thus dying in higher numbers from COVID. Every little bit helped us keep the senate, so thanks for killing yourselves to own the libs.
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 10:34 AM
:lmao
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Millennial_Messiah
11-14-2022, 11:44 AM
:lmao
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222-213 (GOP majority) seems like the most likely scenario for final House numbers as per NYT
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/11/10/us/elections/results-house-seats-elections-congress.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=election-results&context=election_recirc®ion=NavBar
Millennial_Messiah
11-14-2022, 11:47 AM
ROFL that GOP representatives are considering Trump for Speaker of the House
That can't legally happen unless he were to win a special election (that's not on the table yet) and he were to actually run, most likely in an R+15 or better district in FL, but the chance of one opening up is slim
The 93k ballots includes earlies (not late earlies that favor the GOP, earlies that favor Dems) and provisionals (will also favor Dems).
The 74k number is the number of late earlies that Lake is relying on to close the margin and as he said, she'd need to win them by 35% even if you assume the other ballots left outstanding break even when they're definitely not going to since they're largely from Pima & Apache county.
Lake is done. Enjoy the pending frivolous lawsuits about voter fraud.
Yeah, Lake lost. AZ is a tilt to lean D state now most likely for the 2024 presidential, senate, and going forward. With Lake losing, I don't see the GOP getting that state back now on the ECV level for the foreseeable short term future.
I'd like the thank the MAGAtards for refusing vaccination and thus dying in higher numbers from COVID. Every little bit helped us keep the senate, so thanks for killing yourselves to own the libs.
Has 0% to do with the ineffective useless vax and everything to do with old people who break GOP just dying in higher mortality rates than before for multiple reasons including covid and shower reaction time by the USA's crappy medical system to other chronic diseases and cancers due to being preoccupied with covid.
Just look at 2020... it's the same scenario as 2020 and there was no vax in November 2020.
Millennial_Messiah
11-14-2022, 11:56 AM
The cult will slowly dissolve over the next 2 years and if the economy continues it's crumble, then the losses you take with the remaining die-hard cult members, will be gained by independents.
We just have to figure out how to keep him from an independent run and Perot type spoiler.
A large majority of the cult members will "come home". They won't vote blue, at least.
Winehole23
11-14-2022, 12:10 PM
Lie down with dogs, rise with fleas.
DeSantis belongs to the same cult, he's the new figurehead for schizmatics like you and D_F, you've said as much yourself.
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 12:16 PM
Has 0% to do with the ineffective useless vax and everything to do with old people who break GOP just dying in higher mortality rates than before for multiple reasons including covid and shower reaction time by the USA's crappy medical system to other chronic diseases and cancers due to being preoccupied with covid.
Just look at 2020... it's the same scenario as 2020 and there was no vax in November 2020.
Exactly. Please keep being antivaxxers, MAGAtards
ChumpDumper
11-14-2022, 12:22 PM
That can't legally happen unless he were to win a special election (that's not on the table yet) and he were to actually run, most likely in an R+15 or better district in FL, but the chance of one opening up is slimShow me the legal requirement that the Speaker has to be an elected House representative.
Millennial_Messiah
11-14-2022, 12:50 PM
Exactly. Please keep being antivaxxers, MAGAtards
I'm not an antivaxxer 'tard.
I believe strongly in the original "no shots no school" policy, i.e. pertaining to serious diseases like polio, hepatitis, tetanus, bacterial meningococcus, etc. All the vaccines that were built with integrity back in the 1940s and 1950s that have been time proven and actually prevent life-threatening illnesses that actually kill young people.
I was an early adopter of the Gardasil vaccine (3 doses, spread over 7 months) in high school. It was my high buy Christmas present one year in the early 2010s.
I believe in getting a Tetanus booster every 10 years.
However I have a strong policy against the vaccines manufactured for URIs, that started in 2012 when I was sickened for 4 months essentially for the third straight year with flu and post-flu bronchitis after receiving the flu shot each year. In the past, I hadn't received flu shots most falls, and weren't sickened all spring the following year. Simply by personal experience and experience of those surrounding me, the statistical truth is that the annual seasonal flu shot doesn't work, and weakens your immune system for other URIs not influenza such as rhinoviruses and coronaviruses, most of which are classified under "common cold" but can hit very hard especially if you have a weakened immune system from an underlying condition or overvaccination of URI doses, pre-2021 essentially limited to the flu shot and in the case of Spring 2010, the H1N1 vaccine (I never got that one, but I did know someone in late 9th grade who did, and she ended with with a large welt on her shoulder which didn't go away for nearly a month. Bottom line... URI "vaccines" weaken immune systems and make manufacturers rich. The epitome of crony capitalism and the rigged system which makes the wealthy BigPharma elite and medical provider companies and insurance companies rich and the people poorer and sicker. Keep the life expectancy at ~80 years per person and no higher as part of a greater NWO population control philosophy (and also keep social security and medicare costs under control). But I've known that well since 2013, and ACA was affirmation of this. ACA did next to nothing but make insurance companies and providers rich and the general populace poorer.
I've been anti- URI vaccine for 7-8+ years before covid existed, and have had tetanus booster as recently as 2019... so don't label me antivaxxer or lump me in the q-tard boat.
Show me the legal requirement that the Speaker has to be an elected House representative.
Stare decisis... show me the last example when the speaker wasn't an elected house rep?
Similar to impeachment and conviction of a previous president. If there had been a previous example, e.g. Nixon during the Ford administration, then it would have made sense to convict Trump.
spurraider21
11-14-2022, 12:50 PM
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Sad trombone
in his defense it almost flipped Will Hunting's vote
Dirks_Finale
11-14-2022, 12:52 PM
This is bullshit.
The Dems voted on articles of impeachment and sent them to the senate for a trial just a couple of weeks after January 6th.
The GOP had the opportunity to convict and make Trump irrelevant, instead McConnell cucked out by claiming you can't impeach someone who isn't in office anymore (a belief with no constitutional precedent).
The Dems gave the GOP the opportunity to make Trump irrelevant and the GOP decided against it because it was worried what banishing Trump would do for rural turnout.
Turns out rural turnout for Trump candidates doesn't work unless Trump himself is on the ballot.
Dems dragged their feet and impeached him a week later. I am referring to the immediate sentiment after Jan 6th when everyone and their momma was saying Trump was disgraceful.
Dirks_Finale
11-14-2022, 12:52 PM
Show me the legal requirement that the Speaker has to be an elected House representative.
I would also like to see this.
spurraider21
11-14-2022, 12:54 PM
Guess I made an error in my math somewhere. Probably put a minus sign instead of a plus somewhere in the Mathematica worksheet I made lol.
Washington Post claims there are 93k Maricopa ballots but that would still only drop things to Lake needing to win the remaining Maricopa ballots 64-36 to tie Hobbs statewide if no other counties had outstanding votes.
Def looks nearly impossible for Lake though, especially with Apache County having nearly 9000 votes left and Pima 40,500 left if the Washington Post's numbers are correct.
you didnt carry the 1
spurraider21
11-14-2022, 12:55 PM
:lmao
1592178792134737921
oh yeah, she's dead
Dirks_Finale
11-14-2022, 12:57 PM
Lie down with dogs, rise with fleas.
DeSantis belongs to the same cult, he's the new figurehead for schizmatics like you and D_F, you've said as much yourself.
B.S.
DeSantis is the highly educated, anti-woke king and tactful leader that appeals to independents.
He is a not a narcissistic buffoon that demands allegiance to himself.
ChumpDumper
11-14-2022, 12:59 PM
Stare decisis... show me the last example when the speaker wasn't an elected house rep?
Similar to impeachment and conviction of a previous president. If there had been a previous example, e.g. Nixon during the Ford administration, then it would have made sense to convict Trump.If there is no precedent of a person's being refused the speakership because he wasn't an elected House member, there is no stare decisis.
Again, show me the legal requirement that the Speaker has to be an elected House representative.
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 01:05 PM
I'm not an antivaxxer 'tard.
I believe strongly in the original "no shots no school" policy, i.e. pertaining to serious diseases like polio, hepatitis, tetanus, bacterial meningococcus, etc. All the vaccines that were built with integrity back in the 1940s and 1950s that have been time proven and actually prevent life-threatening illnesses that actually kill young people.
I was an early adopter of the Gardasil vaccine (3 doses, spread over 7 months) in high school. It was my high buy Christmas present one year in the early 2010s.
I believe in getting a Tetanus booster every 10 years.
However I have a strong policy against the vaccines manufactured for URIs, that started in 2012 when I was sickened for 4 months essentially for the third straight year with flu and post-flu bronchitis after receiving the flu shot each year. In the past, I hadn't received flu shots most falls, and weren't sickened all spring the following year. Simply by personal experience and experience of those surrounding me, the statistical truth is that the annual seasonal flu shot doesn't work, and weakens your immune system for other URIs not influenza such as rhinoviruses and coronaviruses, most of which are classified under "common cold" but can hit very hard especially if you have a weakened immune system from an underlying condition or overvaccination of URI doses, pre-2021 essentially limited to the flu shot and in the case of Spring 2010, the H1N1 vaccine (I never got that one, but I did know someone in late 9th grade who did, and she ended with with a large welt on her shoulder which didn't go away for nearly a month. Bottom line... URI "vaccines" weaken immune systems and make manufacturers rich. The epitome of crony capitalism and the rigged system which makes the wealthy BigPharma elite and medical provider companies and insurance companies rich and the people poorer and sicker. Keep the life expectancy at ~80 years per person and no higher as part of a greater NWO population control philosophy (and also keep social security and medicare costs under control). But I've known that well since 2013, and ACA was affirmation of this. ACA did next to nothing but make insurance companies and providers rich and the general populace poorer.
I've been anti- URI vaccine for 7-8+ years before covid existed, and have had tetanus booster as recently as 2019... so don't label me antivaxxer or lump me in the q-tard boat.
Stare decisis... show me the last example when the speaker wasn't an elected house rep?
Similar to impeachment and conviction of a previous president. If there had been a previous example, e.g. Nixon during the Ford administration, then it would have made sense to convict Trump.
tl;dr
Please keep being antivaxxers, MAGAtards
Winehole23
11-14-2022, 01:11 PM
B.S.
DeSantis is the highly educated, anti-woke king and tactful leader that appeals to independents.
He is a not a narcissistic buffoon that demands allegiance to himself.Sure he is, he won't let "unfriendly" reporters attend his public announcements and he tried to muzzle UF profs last year to prevent them from testifying as experts against his policies in court.
DeSantis is famously thin-skinned and intolerant of contradiction, looks like you've got a new political ikon.
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 01:38 PM
222-213 (GOP majority) seems like the most likely scenario for final House numbers as per NYT
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/11/10/us/elections/results-house-seats-elections-congress.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=election-results&context=election_recirc®ion=NavBar
That's the GOP's ceiling but it's unlikely since it'd require CA-13 to go red.
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 01:40 PM
Dems dragged their feet and impeached him a week later. I am referring to the immediate sentiment after Jan 6th when everyone and their momma was saying Trump was disgraceful.
:lmao GMAFB
McConnell literally said that the senate was in recess so there was no point in bringing it any earlier than they did. Even ignoring that, you're saying it's the Democrats' fault that the senate GOP couldn't find 17 senators who were either retiring, had just been re-elected, already hated Trump, etc. to provide enough votes to convict.
Do you not realize how parody level it sounds to blame Democrats for the GOP deciding to vote a certain way?
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 01:42 PM
B.S.
DeSantis is the highly educated, anti-woke king and tactful leader that appeals to independents.
He is a not a narcissistic buffoon that demands allegiance to himself.
His COVID policy is why he won independents in Florida imo...no one votes on woke policy.
ElNono
11-14-2022, 02:16 PM
Pledging allegiance to Trump and an alternate reality is no-go going forward and the electorate made that clear. I have a few Trumper friends who are exceptional people, but still can't see WTF is going on here enough to step back and reassess, logically.
We just have to figure out how to keep him from an independent run and Perot type spoiler.
Uh? He's gonna announce Wednesday he's running in 2024 and the entire party will align behind him. He's your Frankenstein but you realistically can't purge him out without losing significant amount of rural, non-college graduate and boomer votes.
The best chance you have to save the GOP from him is if the DOJ ends up sending him to prison, tbh...
Trill Clinton
11-14-2022, 02:19 PM
I hope Trump runs 3rd party to give Biden the easy win in 2024.
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 02:20 PM
I hope Trump runs 3rd party to give Biden the easy win in 2024.
He won't even need to run...if he tells his base to stay home, that'll give Dems a massive victory
Winehole23
11-14-2022, 02:35 PM
Uh? He's gonna announce Wednesday he's running in 2024 and the entire party will align behind him. He's your Frankenstein but you realistically can't purge him out without losing significant amount of rural, non-college graduate and boomer votes.
The best chance you have to save the GOP from him is if the DOJ ends up sending him to prison, tbh...he'd only come back as a zombie martyr of the deep state, & therefore as a new object for veneration.
Spurminator
11-14-2022, 02:35 PM
He won't even need to run...if he tells his base to stay home, that'll give Dems a massive victory
Yeah but he can't grift more campaign contributions if he doesn't run.
Edit: Actually, I guess anything's possible with these people.
Winehole23
11-14-2022, 02:37 PM
Yeah but he can't grift more campaign contributions if he doesn't run.
Edit: Actually, I guess anything's possible with these people.legal bills to pay
Millennial_Messiah
11-14-2022, 03:13 PM
His COVID policy is why he won independents in Florida imo...no one votes on woke policy.
So how did Whitmer, Evers, Kelly, and Wolf's protege in PA (Shapiro) win indepedents big despite having the polarly opposite Covid policy?
That's the GOP's ceiling but it's unlikely since it'd require CA-13 to go red.
Duarte is winning but it's razor thin and NYT gives him about a 52% chance to hold on. Coin flip
Millennial_Messiah
11-14-2022, 03:21 PM
The big problem the Democrats might have is that 2024 could end up being what 2022 was supposed to be pre-Roe (Jackson/Dobbs), tbh... especially if we get a recession and serious stagflation in the next couple years, gas prices go up not back down disproving Biden's theory that the record prices in Spring/Summer 2022 were "Transitory" or "temporary", tbh... 2024 could be what the 2022 red wave was supposed to be but didn't happen but on steroids because of the specific senate races that are at play in 2024, potential redistrictings in North Carolina, realignments in race, suburban reversion etc as the economic issues reign supreme and the QAnon ultra religious base continues to be less of a factor and die off, if not literally then at least fade deeper and deeper into the background and be replaced by more Lee Zeldin types that run on the issues that matter to independents and moderates and not trying to install a Christian theocracy where abortion and birth control are banished, JFK Jr. is still alive, and to start a witch hunt against the so called "pedophile cabal" that doesn't exist.
ChumpDumper
11-14-2022, 03:23 PM
:lol predicting Trump's base will just go away is pure hopium.
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 03:30 PM
Yeah but he can't grift more campaign contributions if he doesn't run.
Edit: Actually, I guess anything's possible with these people.
His PAC has been grifting closing to $100 million the last two years :lol
Winehole23
11-14-2022, 04:02 PM
it is a striking coincidence
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FrostKing
11-14-2022, 05:40 PM
Things have changed, bigly. In the new GOP world, moderates like you are considered RINOs as you are not 100% a MAGAtard.
Disageree. I am the future of Conservatives in Europe & USA.
Winehole23
11-14-2022, 05:49 PM
looks like some votes were found for Lauren Boebert late in the process, 4-6 days after election day. outcome still unclear, though
https://www.cpr.org/2022/11/14/lauren-boebert-adam-frisch-race-update-colorado-3rd-congressional-district/
FrostKing
11-14-2022, 05:54 PM
This loss has reengergized me. I'm back into Politics.
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 06:22 PM
Duarte is winning but it's razor thin and NYT gives him about a 52% chance to hold on. Coin flip
Didn't New York Times stop updating its forecasts at 4AM on November 9th?
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 06:28 PM
Didn't New York Times stop updating its forecasts at 4AM on November 9th?
yes...late mail in CA usually favors Dems so we'll see. I think we should get an update on CA13 and CA22 tomorrow.
Ef-man
11-14-2022, 07:29 PM
This loss has reengergized me. I'm back into Politics.
Play into the GOP's russia is not bad schtick and you will be in the frontline of a war between russia and Europe (minus US involvement in another European war with russia).
spurraider21
11-14-2022, 08:00 PM
about to get a huge vote dump from Maricopium County... depending on the results it could allow them to call the race
spurraider21
11-14-2022, 08:07 PM
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spurraider21
11-14-2022, 08:14 PM
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Isitjustme?
11-14-2022, 08:27 PM
Git her
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Isitjustme?
11-14-2022, 08:28 PM
I'd like the thank the MAGAtards for refusing vaccination and thus dying in higher numbers from COVID. Every little bit helped us keep the senate, so thanks for killing yourselves to own the libs.
Lmfao
spurraider21
11-14-2022, 08:37 PM
basically unless Lake gets ~62% in this dump expected in the next 5-10 minutes, i think you'll see some calls
spurraider21
11-14-2022, 08:41 PM
just came in 57-43 for lake
this is going to get called for Hobbs imminently
Trainwreck2100
11-14-2022, 08:51 PM
NBC Kornaki's called it
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/democrat-katie-hobbs-defeats-maga-favorite-kari-lake-high-stakes-race-rcna55172
Will Hunting
11-14-2022, 08:55 PM
It's over....WE HAVE DRAINED THE LAKE!!!
spurraider21
11-14-2022, 09:17 PM
not being called everywhere, though. looks like just msnbc at this point. still just a matter of time though
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edit: ddhq and cnn have called it as well
ElNono
11-14-2022, 09:27 PM
How about the Armenian News Desk, tbh? Come on son, make the call
spurraider21
11-14-2022, 09:29 PM
How about the Armenian News Desk, tbh? Come on son, make the call
lake drained tbh
ducks was the deciding vote (the machine stole his vote and gave it to hobbs)
Trill Clinton
11-14-2022, 09:36 PM
https://i.ibb.co/B6WXcyS/20221115-100008.jpg
1592340964982808576
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 09:48 PM
LMAO Lake. She and Martha McSally can be the inaugural entries to Arizona MAGAtard Hall of Fail.
Isitjustme?
11-14-2022, 09:52 PM
LMAO Lake. She and Martha McSally can be the inaugural entries to Arizona MAGAtard Hall of Fail.
I dunno, don't celebrate yet...
https://i.imgur.com/ZNZlFCd.jpg
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 10:00 PM
I dunno, don't celebrate yet...
https://i.imgur.com/ZNZlFCd.jpg
LOL when was that? :lmao
ElNono
11-14-2022, 10:00 PM
I dunno, don't celebrate yet...
https://i.imgur.com/ZNZlFCd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhkiDCVWYAEGvJX?format=jpg&name=900x900
daboom1
11-14-2022, 10:04 PM
Rigged
Leetonidas
11-14-2022, 10:06 PM
^ :lmao
ChumpDumper
11-14-2022, 10:10 PM
Rigged
:lmao tell us your conspiracy theory this time, Qhris
daboom1
11-14-2022, 10:14 PM
:lmao tell us your conspiracy theory this time, Qhris
You telling me Lake lost Maricopa? :lol
Look at the polling.
rigged bullshit
Monostradamus
11-14-2022, 10:16 PM
Rigged
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlimsyAchingAxolotl-max-1mb.gif
daboom1
11-14-2022, 10:18 PM
BREAKING: Another Absolutely Fraudulent Maricopa County Ballot Drop Makes Katie Hobbs Arizona Governor - Demons Stole Arizona!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/breaking-another-absolutely-fraudulent-maricopa-county-ballot-drop-makes-katie-hobbs-arizona-governor-demons-stole-arizona/ https://truthsocial.com/users/gatewaypundit/statuses/109345475480835102
daboom1
11-14-2022, 10:19 PM
"Democrats Want to End Elections" - Rush Limbaugh Predicted Perfectly in October 2020 How Democrats Would Cheat and Steal Elections Moving Forward
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/democrats-want-end-elections-rush-limbaugh-predicted-perfectly-october-2020-democrats-cheat-steal-elections-moving-forward/ https://truthsocial.com/users/gatewaypundit/statuses/109345504928619788
ChumpDumper
11-14-2022, 10:19 PM
You telling me Lake lost Maricopa? :lol
Look at the polling.
rigged bullshitWhich polls, Qhris?
Trafalgar?
Spurminator
11-14-2022, 10:21 PM
LOL when was that? :lmao
Not from tonight, since totally-liberal Tulsi is guet hosting
Spurminator
11-14-2022, 10:23 PM
You telling me Lake lost Maricopa? :lol
Look at the polling.
rigged bullshit
:cry but muh polls :cry
:lmao :lmao
Leetonidas
11-14-2022, 10:24 PM
:lol demons
daboom1
11-14-2022, 10:25 PM
The results from the machines defy all math.
https://truthsocial.com/users/realmarkfinchem/statuses/109345614561666303
daboom1
11-14-2022, 10:28 PM
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1592358184207151106?s=20
Leetonidas
11-14-2022, 10:28 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao
daboom1
11-14-2022, 10:29 PM
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1592315538323439617?s=20
ElNono
11-14-2022, 10:43 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao det meltdown
:lmao:lmao:lmao MAGAtards tears
Trainwreck2100
11-14-2022, 10:44 PM
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1592358184207151106?s=20
which is why her punkass lost
daboom1
11-14-2022, 10:47 PM
which is why her punkass lost
Congrats you guys rigged another election :bobo just took 4 extra days :tu
ElNono
11-14-2022, 10:47 PM
How it started:
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1587139110292029445?s=20
How's it going:
BREAKING: Another Absolutely Fraudulent Maricopa County Ballot Drop Makes Katie Hobbs Arizona Governor - Demons Stole Arizona!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/breaking-another-absolutely-fraudulent-maricopa-county-ballot-drop-makes-katie-hobbs-arizona-governor-demons-stole-arizona/ https://truthsocial.com/users/gatewaypundit/statuses/109345475480835102
"Democrats Want to End Elections" - Rush Limbaugh Predicted Perfectly in October 2020 How Democrats Would Cheat and Steal Elections Moving Forward
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/democrats-want-end-elections-rush-limbaugh-predicted-perfectly-october-2020-democrats-cheat-steal-elections-moving-forward/ https://truthsocial.com/users/gatewaypundit/statuses/109345504928619788
https://www.seekpng.com/png/detail/863-8636073_super-funny-meme-download-rage-transparent-angry-meme.png
Blake
11-14-2022, 11:01 PM
Rigged
You telling me Lake lost Maricopa? :lol
Look at the polling.
rigged bullshit
BREAKING: Another Absolutely Fraudulent Maricopa County Ballot Drop Makes Katie Hobbs Arizona Governor - Demons Stole Arizona!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/breaking-another-absolutely-fraudulent-maricopa-county-ballot-drop-makes-katie-hobbs-arizona-governor-demons-stole-arizona/ https://truthsocial.com/users/gatewaypundit/statuses/109345475480835102
"Democrats Want to End Elections" - Rush Limbaugh Predicted Perfectly in October 2020 How Democrats Would Cheat and Steal Elections Moving Forward
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/democrats-want-end-elections-rush-limbaugh-predicted-perfectly-october-2020-democrats-cheat-steal-elections-moving-forward/ https://truthsocial.com/users/gatewaypundit/statuses/109345504928619788
The results from the machines defy all math.
https://truthsocial.com/users/realmarkfinchem/statuses/109345614561666303
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1592358184207151106?s=20
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1592315538323439617?s=20
:lmao :lmao :lmao
pgardn
11-14-2022, 11:09 PM
The results from the machines defy all math.
https://truthsocial.com/users/realmarkfinchem/statuses/109345614561666303
truth social does not use math
its evil Chrissy
Joseph Kony
11-14-2022, 11:12 PM
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Spurminator
11-14-2022, 11:23 PM
Sad night for Chris, whose life in his parents' basement will be absolutely unaffected by any election result but who has decided that his purpose in life is to spend hours a day doing volunteer PR for the Republican Party. It doesn't have to be this way, he could do what thousands of other 30+ single male incels his age do and devote his life to video games, but here he is.
Millennial_Messiah
11-14-2022, 11:53 PM
Sad night for Chris, whose life in his parents' basement will be absolutely unaffected by any election result but who has decided that his purpose in life is to spend hours a day doing volunteer PR for the Republican Party. It doesn't have to be this way, he could do what thousands of other 30+ single male incels his age do and devote his life to video games, but here he is.
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ElNono
11-14-2022, 11:54 PM
^^^ the first 3 pages of this thread are embarrassing, tbh
ElNono
11-14-2022, 11:54 PM
1592334805550927872
baseline bum
11-14-2022, 11:57 PM
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1592358184207151106?s=20
Yeah, which is why they didn't vote for the filthy lake.
ElNono
11-15-2022, 12:00 AM
1592360342449180673
:rollin:rollin:rollin
Millennial_Messiah
11-15-2022, 12:06 AM
1592334805550927872
Trump President.
Not McCain.
Not Romney.
Not Cheney.
that's it & that's all.
ElNono
11-15-2022, 12:08 AM
Trump President.
Not McCain.
Not Romney.
Not Cheney.
that's it & that's all.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhkmoRQUAAAShE8?format=jpg&name=medium
hitmanyr2k
11-15-2022, 12:10 AM
Red wave will now go down with Trump 2020 as one of the most ridiculed election phrases of all-time.
Leetonidas
11-15-2022, 12:13 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhkmoRQUAAAShE8?format=jpg&name=medium
ducks :lmao
Millennial_Messiah
11-15-2022, 12:16 AM
Lake has a long term future making millions per year, starting this upcoming year, as a major cable news anchor... I bet Fox News can't wait to hire her for a primetime conservative opinion show slot, tbh.
So the joke's on Kate Hobbs. AZ governor doesn't make nearly the kind of salary that Lake will be making on TV. $$$$$$$$$$$$
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhkmoRQUAAAShE8?format=jpg&name=medium
I obviously don't like it, but it's a well-done meme artistically, so props to whoever made that for the funny artwork :tu
ElNono
11-15-2022, 12:20 AM
Lake has a long term future making millions per year, starting this upcoming year, as a major cable news anchor... I bet Fox News can't wait to hire her for a primetime conservative opinion show slot, tbh.
So the joke's on Kate Hobbs. AZ governor doesn't make nearly the kind of salary that Lake will be making on TV. $$$$$$$$$$$$
But I thought we needed to live with the fact that Lake was going to win? :rolleyes
Andy, you need to take a break from politics, tbh
daboom1
11-15-2022, 02:30 AM
Yeah, which is why they didn't vote for the filthy lake.
Lake got plenty of votes, enough to win. Dems sabotaged Maricopa and stalled the count just like the Presidential Election. Dem voters don't mind a rigged game as long as they are winning.
baseline bum
11-15-2022, 03:12 AM
Lake got plenty of votes, enough to win. Dems sabotaged Maricopa and stalled the count just like the Presidential Election. Dem voters don't mind a rigged game as long as they are winning.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWi0Sh1UEAAknqT?format=jpg&name=small
ChumpDumper
11-15-2022, 03:52 AM
1592336865520414720
Ef-man
11-15-2022, 03:57 AM
Lake got plenty of votes, enough to win. Dems sabotaged Maricopa and stalled the count just like the Presidential Election. Dem voters don't mind a rigged game as long as they are winning.
We understand, it is just like the time when Bryce stole Jenna from you. :tu
https://twitter.com/jlervin19/status/185452996921016321
https://twitter.com/jlervin19/status/1485771112134987776
Monostradamus
11-15-2022, 07:18 AM
Lake got plenty of votes, enough to win. Dems sabotaged Maricopa and stalled the count just like the Presidential Election. Dem voters don't mind a rigged game as long as they are winning.
https://y.yarn.co/7064b218-74fe-4611-aa4e-b55a0860a9d7_text.gif
Will Hunting
11-15-2022, 08:36 AM
Rigged
Can't believe the DEMOGANTS rigged the governor election but we couldn't rig CD1, CD6 or enough seats for a state leg majority.
We fucking suck at rigging elections!
Will Hunting
11-15-2022, 08:36 AM
Lake got plenty of votes, enough to win. Dems sabotaged Maricopa and stalled the count just like the Presidential Election. Dem voters don't mind a rigged game as long as they are winning.
Election administration in Maricopa County is controlled by Republicans
Will Hunting
11-15-2022, 08:49 AM
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1592315538323439617?s=20
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhff6amUAAAwRoK?format=jpg&name=large
Leetonidas
11-15-2022, 10:04 AM
Lake got plenty of votes, enough to win. Dems sabotaged Maricopa and stalled the count just like the Presidential Election. Dem voters don't mind a rigged game as long as they are winning.
Sorry this is happening to you
Trill Clinton
11-15-2022, 10:07 AM
1590373626024693760
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhkm7XLX0AAo-Ml?format=jpg&name=small
https://www.thecoli.com/media/kari-lake.22014/full
Millennial_Messiah
11-15-2022, 10:13 AM
But I thought we needed to live with the fact that Lake was going to win? :rolleyes
Andy, you need to take a break from politics, tbh
I tried, and then Sunday's meltdown... another Cowboys loss to Green Gay happened... completing the worst November of all time, and it's only half over.
I bet what's for Thanksgiving dinner? Rotten turkey? Or a house fire? Would be par for the course for Roevember 2022, tbh...
Also, Lake won. Lake's going to be signing a contract in the next month or two and getting millions a year as a conservative national news anchor, while the AZ governor salary is $95,000.00 per year (yes, I googled it).
Boiled down:::::::
Lake: $X,abc,def.yz per year; where X >= 1
Hobbs: $95,000.00 per year
Lake is the Winner.
Let us proceed................
1590373626024693760
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhkm7XLX0AAo-Ml?format=jpg&name=small
Yeah, Ted Cruz needs to retire and get a new Senator from TX to win by Abbott margins, because with Ted Cruz that ain't happening... he's a massive underperformer... Trump is an electoral juggernaut compared to that guy.
Leetonidas
11-15-2022, 10:15 AM
:lol salary smack
You know you've hit the bottom when that is your only rebuttal lmao
Will Hunting
11-15-2022, 11:12 AM
:lol salary smack
You know you've hit the bottom when that is your only rebuttal lmao
:lol living vicariously through a future media deal Lake hasn't even gotten yet
Trainwreck2100
11-15-2022, 11:14 AM
Can't believe the DEMOGANTS rigged the governor election but we couldn't rig CD1, CD6 or enough seats for a state leg majority.
We fucking suck at rigging elections!
Dems are gonna lose the house thanks to New York but they're gonna rig the governor's race in Arizona
Will Hunting
11-15-2022, 11:17 AM
Also, Lake won. Lake's going to be signing a contract in the next month or two and getting millions a year as a conservative national news anchor, while the AZ governor salary is $95,000.00 per year (yes, I googled it).
Boiled down:::::::
Lake: $X,abc,def.yz per year; where X >= 1
Hobbs: $95,000.00 per year
Lake is the Winner.
a8MZBUoQt68
Winehole23
11-15-2022, 11:31 AM
Sad night for Chris, whose life in his parents' basement will be absolutely unaffected by any election result but who has decided that his purpose in life is to spend hours a day doing volunteer PR for the Republican Party. It doesn't have to be this way, he could do what thousands of other 30+ single male incels his age do and devote his life to video games, but here he is.I started hanging out with my wife in 1994, I never did internet dating.
What's it like?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhizzZ8XkAINh9A?format=jpg&name=large
ElNono
11-15-2022, 12:08 PM
:lol living vicariously through a future media deal Lake hasn't even gotten yet
:lol she also has been a news anchor for Fox for 20+ years... if TV is what she really wanted to keep doing, why run for governor at all?
Pure copium...
Spurminator
11-15-2022, 12:12 PM
I started hanging out with my wife in 1994, I never did internet dating.
What's it like?
Wouldn't know, I was married before most of those sites/apps existed.
ChumpDumper
11-15-2022, 12:14 PM
1592551806911287299
Millennial_Messiah
11-15-2022, 12:43 PM
I started hanging out with my wife in 1994, I never did internet dating.
What's it like?
(image)
Tinder is useless and full of uggos, scams, and whores.
Bumble is useless if you don't look like Adonis and aren't at least 6'3".
POF & OKC peaked around 10 years ago. POF I'd say peaked a tad bit later than OKC, but still. Now POF is nothing but spam and scam accounts and OKC is now WokeKCupid (has been since around 2016) and the site hasn't had legitimate people to actually meet for about a decade. It was decent in around 2012. POF peaked in 2013 and was decent, but still not exactly good, up until around 2016.
Match.com if and only if you pay for the subscription is a step above any of the above, and it will actually get you laid with someone not hideous if you put any effort at all. But you're unlikely to find more than a short term relationship with a few dates and some decent sex. You won't find a wife. The best way to meet a woman for a long term relationship and marriage is still and always will be in-person, but it's rough if you're a permanent WFH employee and you don't drink alcohol (the taste gags me, and it isn't cheap either), which is kind of my situation. I'm not an incel or an introvert, I just don't get a lot of in-person opportunities to socialize these days. Since college the opportunities went down dramatically, and since covid they've dwindled to near zero. So Match has been the only option for at least finding some short term decent female company.
Blake
11-15-2022, 01:27 PM
Trump President.
Not McCain.
Not Romney.
Not Cheney.
that's it & that's all.
You misspelled Biden
Winehole23
11-15-2022, 01:27 PM
Tinder is useless and full of uggos, scams, and whores.
Bumble is useless if you don't look like Adonis and aren't at least 6'3".
POF & OKC peaked around 10 years ago. POF I'd say peaked a tad bit later than OKC, but still. Now POF is nothing but spam and scam accounts and OKC is now WokeKCupid (has been since around 2016) and the site hasn't had legitimate people to actually meet for about a decade. It was decent in around 2012. POF peaked in 2013 and was decent, but still not exactly good, up until around 2016.
Match.com if and only if you pay for the subscription is a step above any of the above, and it will actually get you laid with someone not hideous if you put any effort at all. But you're unlikely to find more than a short term relationship with a few dates and some decent sex. You won't find a wife. The best way to meet a woman for a long term relationship and marriage is still and always will be in-person, but it's rough if you're a permanent WFH employee and you don't drink alcohol (the taste gags me, and it isn't cheap either), which is kind of my situation. I'm not an incel or an introvert, I just don't get a lot of in-person opportunities to socialize these days. Since college the opportunities went down dramatically, and since covid they've dwindled to near zero. So Match has been the only option for at least finding some short term decent female company.thanks for the detailed reply, good luck in the future!
Millennial_Messiah
11-15-2022, 01:41 PM
You misspelled Biden
Bush 3
Clinton 2
Obama 2
Trump 1
Biden 1
Cheney 0
Hilldawg 0
Romney 0
Murkowski 0
Kinzinger 0
Pence 0
McCain 0
Bernie 0
Warren 0
that's it & that's all.
thanks for the detailed reply, good luck in the future!
you're welcome.
Unlike some i'm willing to bury the hatchet with politics and be a normal person most of the time to most people... (D), (R), (L), (I), or nonpartisan/apolitical.
we're coming up on 2023. Looks to be a year filled with political gridlock, no new spending bills, no new legislature in general, which is a good thing. Maybe we can all just get along for the first time in awhile?
Isitjustme?
11-15-2022, 01:47 PM
Unlike some i'm willing to bury the hatchet with politics and be a normal person most of the time to most people... (D), (R), (L), (I), or nonpartisan/apolitical.
we're coming up on 2023. Looks to be a year filled with political gridlock, no new spending bills, no new legislature in general, which is a good thing. Maybe we can all just get along for the first time in awhile?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2017/07/McCainVote_GOP.gif
Blake
11-15-2022, 01:58 PM
Bush 3
Clinton 2
Obama 2
Trump 1
Biden 1
Cheney 0
Hilldawg 0
Romney 0
Murkowski 0
Kinzinger 0
Pence 0
McCain 0
Bernie 0
Warren 0
that's it & that's all.
you're welcome.
Unlike some i'm willing to bury the hatchet with politics and be a normal person most of the time to most people... (D), (R), (L), (I), or nonpartisan/apolitical.
we're coming up on 2023. Looks to be a year filled with political gridlock, no new spending bills, no new legislature in general, which is a good thing. Maybe we can all just get along for the first time in awhile?
Trump not president tho.
Ef-man
11-15-2022, 03:04 PM
Trump not president tho.
Trump, the one and done loser that got bigly (biggest ever) schlonged by Ole Joe Biden!
daboom1
11-15-2022, 03:22 PM
Kari Lake May Still Have A Path To Victory In Arizona
Race may now go to recount under state law :tu
daboom1
11-15-2022, 03:27 PM
^
Isitjustme?
11-15-2022, 04:13 PM
Kari Lake May Still Have A Path To Victory In Arizona
Race may now go to recount under state law :tu
https://i.imgur.com/UgJkTll.jpg
Will Hunting
11-15-2022, 04:20 PM
Kari Lake May Still Have A Path To Victory In Arizona
Race may now go to recount under state law :tu
https://i.ibb.co/7RH04Lx/Chris.png
Millennial_Messiah
11-15-2022, 04:23 PM
https://i.ibb.co/7RH04Lx/Chris.png
It'll go to recount.
I don't believe a recount has ever actually overturned the original verdict. The closest one ever I believe was in 2020 in one of the Iowa house races where the GOP candidate won by 4 votes in the original and ended up winning by 8 votes in the recount. But Hobbs is up enough to the extent where a recount won't move the needle. Same for Lauren Boebert. She will win.
Will Hunting
11-15-2022, 04:27 PM
It'll go to recount.
I don't believe a recount has ever actually overturned the original verdict. The closest one ever I believe was in 2020 in one of the Iowa house races where the GOP candidate won by 4 votes in the original and ended up winning by 8 votes in the recount. But Hobbs is up enough to the extent where a recount won't move the needle. Same for Lauren Boebert. She will win.
There were two state house races in New Hampshire that went to a recount just this cycle where the recount changed the winner.
Cope and seethe. No recount, Hobbs won.
spurraider21
11-15-2022, 04:27 PM
LMAO Lake. She and Martha McSally can be the inaugural entries to Arizona MAGAtard Hall of Fail.
McSally still the MVP for giving the democrats 2 senate seats in 4 years (:lol ducey for appointing her after she lost her previous race)
but Lake was more high profile
Will Hunting
11-15-2022, 04:28 PM
McSally still the MVP for giving the democrats 2 senate seats in 4 years (:lol ducey for appointing her after she lost her previous race)
but Lake was more high profile
As bad as McSally was she was 100x better than Blake Masters.
No one wants to vote for Patrick Bateman.
spurraider21
11-15-2022, 04:31 PM
As bad as McSally was she was 100x better than Blake Masters.
No one wants to vote for Patrick Bateman.
until blake masters costs the GOP 2 senate seats in 4 years she's the reigning MVP
Leetonidas
11-15-2022, 04:39 PM
The copium continues :lmao
Spurs Homer
11-15-2022, 04:40 PM
If there is a recount
id put money-
hobbs lead will INCREASE
lolololol
Millennial_Messiah
11-15-2022, 04:45 PM
There were two state house races in New Hampshire that went to a recount just this cycle where the recount changed the winner.
Cope and seethe. No recount, Hobbs won.
I'm already on to football and coping over the latest Cowboys loss to the Fudge Packers. FML.
As bad as McSally was she was 100x better than Blake Masters.
No one wants to vote for Patrick Bateman.
Blake Masters does give off the serial killer incel vibe.
Isitjustme?
11-15-2022, 05:19 PM
1592338178475974657
Blake
11-15-2022, 06:40 PM
Kari Lake May Still Have A Path To Victory In Arizona
Race may now go to recount under state law :tu
:lmao
spurraider21
11-15-2022, 07:34 PM
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Dirks_Finale
11-15-2022, 09:39 PM
374791980254904320
It really was a great series. :tu
Monostradamus
11-15-2022, 11:50 PM
https://i.ibb.co/7RH04Lx/Chris.png
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao daboom1 doesn’t wanna go to the sidelines and talk to the olllllllllllllllllllllllllll ball coach efter det one!
https://i.ibb.co/7RH04Lx/Chris.png
One of the best things I’ve seen on spurstalk in a minute :lol
Does DJR still post here? He could probably do a lot of fun stuff with this picture
Will Hunting
11-16-2022, 09:51 AM
:lmao
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spurraider21
11-16-2022, 07:03 PM
Yeah my buddy out there in LA was telling me all about Caruso.
tell your friend Caruso lost
spurraider21
11-16-2022, 07:04 PM
gop officially has 218 seats now called for them, so majority is locked in
koriwhat
11-16-2022, 07:07 PM
tell your friend Caruso lost
You're a fucking idiot bro... You think my buddy gave af about Caruso or any politician for that matter? My bud doesn't even vote you dumbass. You and your assumptions are worthless.
Millennial_Messiah
11-16-2022, 11:54 PM
gop officially has 218 seats now called for them, so majority is locked in
Duarte took the lead with almost all the vote finally in in CA-13
222-213 tbh :tu
Joseph Kony
11-17-2022, 01:05 AM
"my buddy out there in LA was telling me all about Caruso."
"You think my buddy gave af about Caruso"
:lmao :lmao well which is it dipshit
Monostradamus
11-17-2022, 08:08 AM
"my buddy out there in LA was telling me all about Caruso."
"You think my buddy gave af about Caruso"
:lmao :lmao well which is it dipshit
:lmao koriwhat
Ef-man
11-17-2022, 08:14 AM
"my buddy out there in LA was telling me all about Caruso."
"You think my buddy gave af about Caruso"
:lmao :lmao well which is it dipshit
https://youtu.be/Q_4bp8bBNVw
Winehole23
11-18-2022, 10:02 AM
Republicans hollow out, ridicule and demonize the public sphere, then they complain when shit doesn't work right.
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Will Hunting
11-18-2022, 10:05 AM
:lol can't wait to see the GOP house majority shit all over itself
1593610088970960897
Spurminator
11-18-2022, 10:12 AM
:lol can't wait to see the GOP house majority shit all over itself
1593610088970960897
"Kevin McCarthy isn't radical enough! WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE!!"
:lol
Fucking lunatic party.
Will Hunting
11-18-2022, 10:18 AM
"Kevin McCarthy isn't radical enough! WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE!!"
:lol
Fucking lunatic party.
"ALL THOSE WOKE CORPORATIONS THAT I GAVE A MASSIVE TAX CUT TO IN 2017!!! I HATE THEM SO MUCH!!!"
Will Hunting
11-18-2022, 10:40 AM
It'll go to recount.
As it stands, Lake would need to win the remaining ballots by over 30% for it to force a recount.
Wrong again :lol
TimDunkem
11-18-2022, 11:19 AM
Why does MM keep commenting on the Arizona races when he has no idea how their elections work? Before election night he was saying the Governor runs the voting process in the state. :lol
spurraider21
11-18-2022, 11:57 AM
Katie Porter continuing to carry Orange County is pretty spectacular tbh
Will Hunting
11-18-2022, 12:22 PM
Katie Porter continuing to carry Orange County is pretty spectacular tbh
Yeah she's in a Biden +11 district but every other Biden +11 district in California fell off a cliff this year for Dems.
hater
11-18-2022, 12:27 PM
Wait even Lauren Bobert ended up winning???
:lmao
spurraider21
11-18-2022, 12:36 PM
Yeah she's in a Biden +11 district but every other Biden +11 district in California fell off a cliff this year for Dems.
well prior to her taking office, that had been an easy republican seat for a long time. she took over in an easy cycle, Trump's 2018 midterm. holding the seat in 2020 was also not surprising given it was a general election and trump was massively unpopular. but holding it during Biden's midterm is quite impressive given that district's electoral history
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