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[ShoogarBear]

Defensive Player of the Year 2005-2006



http://sports.espn.go.com/media/nba/2003/0507/photo/a_bowen_vi.jpg

[FromWayDowntown]

Let's hope. It's overdue and well deserved.

[1Parker1]

The sad thing is, you know he won't get it...:(

[1Parker1]

Let's hope. It's overdue and well deserved.

:tu

[Prefontaine]

lets get the mob to call a hit on artest and wallace, then bowen has it for sure.

[yeahone]

another player Bowened

[xcoriate]

fo sure.

Bown deserves as much as any player in the league.

Also I think TD deserves one :)

[Dre_7]

Bowen is shutting down some of the best players in the League! Who said he was done?

[CubanMustGo]

Dirk Nowitzki makes me ashamed to be German. Bowen gives up five inches to this clown and still holds him to 3-of-13. What a pussy.

[Pistons < Spurs]

..........Marcus Camby........

[FromWayDowntown]

..........Marcus Camby........

That Camby blocks shots and grabs rebounds doesn't make him the best defensive player in the NBA. But, of course, the media who vote on that award don't bother with actually looking at the unmeasurables -- blocks and rebounds always carry the day.

Bowen has been the best man-to-man defender in the NBA for several years, but there aren't many stats for that and without stats, the media is lost.

[spurs=bling]

The sad thing is, you know he won't get it...:(


you never know :spin

[Pistons < Spurs]

That Camby blocks shots and grabs rebounds doesn't make him the best defensive player in the NBA. But, of course, the media who vote on that award don't bother with actually looking at the unmeasurables -- blocks and rebounds always carry the day.

Bowen has been the best man-to-man defender in the NBA for several years, but there aren't many stats for that and without stats, the media is lost.


Exactly. Bowen is obviously a monster as a defender, but without those stats, it will be very difficult for him to ever receive the accolades he deserves. It's not fair at all........but people better get used to it.

[LilMissSPURfect]

That Camby blocks shots and grabs rebounds doesn't make him the best defensive player in the NBA. But, of course, the media who vote on that award don't bother with actually looking at the unmeasurables -- blocks and rebounds always carry the day.

Bowen has been the best man-to-man defender in the NBA for several years, but there aren't many stats for that and without stats, the media is lost.


the best is sometimes not good enough for them folks out yonder (east coast)

[SequSpur]

that picture of bowen looks weird for some reason.

[ShoogarBear]

Bump.

I hope everyone caught that clutch play by Bowen in the OT where, with the shot clock winding down, he cut across the lane, took the feed from TD and hit a gigantic teardrop. Would anyone have ever thought they'd see that play from Bruce three years ago?

Some more food for thought:
2005-2006 stats (*=career best, +=second-career best)
MPG 34.4*, PPG 8.1+, RPG 3.4+, APG 1.7*, TO/G 0.6*, FGP 46.4+, FTP 50.0, 3PP 50.8*

34 years old and still improving every year.

And his defense hasn't gone down a notch, despite the occasional wrong-headed rambling that goes on in here. Remember, all last year we heard the same complaints about Bruce's defense waning down. Wonder what Chauncey and Rip would have to say about that.

There's never gonna be a Church of Bruce, nor should there ever be one (he wouldn't want it, and the people who appreciate his game know it's not about the individual). But at least a little props for the one Spur who's worked harder to prepare himself than maybe anyone who's ever worn the silver and black.

[DesiSpur_21]

Bump.

I hope everyone caught that clutch play by Bowen in the OT where, with the shot clock winding down, he cut across the lane, took the feed from TD and hit a gigantic teardrop. Would anyone have ever thought they see that play from Bruce three years ago?

Some more food for thought:
2005-2006 stats (*=career best, +=second-career best)
MPG 34.4*, PPG 8.1+, RPG 3.4+, APG 1.7*, TO/G 0.6*, FGP 46.4*, FTP 50.0, 3PP 50.8*

34 years old and still improving every year.

And his defense hasn't gone down a notch, despite the occasional wrong-headed rambling that goes on in here. Remember, all last year we heard the same complaints about Bruce's defense waning down. Wonder what Chauncey and Rip would have to say about that.

There's never gonna be a Church of Bruce, nor should there ever be one (he wouldn't want it, and the people who appreciate his game know it's not about the individual). But at least a little props for the one Spur who's worked harder to prepare himself than maybe anyone who's ever worn the silver and black.

:tu

Bruce for SA Mayor!!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

If Bowen did not get it that year that Artest won it, he never will. That was by far the best season he will ever have.

Maybe if Pop had undermined the voting norm by giving the media "bogus unsubstantiated" stats (Pop's words) they would have looked more favorable towards Bowen. But if he gets it this year it will be for the wrong reasons (reputation) instead of the right reasons (results).

Bruce Bowen will always be the shit in my eyes, and he doesn't need that lame ass award to prove it either.

[Spurminator]

Pretty amazing that he is averaging a career high in minutes considering the Finley addition. I wonder if that will continue.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I've always kind of wondered what kind of impact the pissing and moaning of such big names as Wince Carter and Ray Allen have on his status. Would the voters be more inclined to say, "Well these guys are great scorers so he must be getting away with murder if he's shutting them down like no else can." Or would they think, "If this guy is this far in their heads he must be something special."

I think this could be Bruce's best shot this year. With Flip running the show in Detroit they're becoming known more their O than their D, so that hurts Big Ben's chances. I don't see how anyone can vote to give Artest any award this year with the douchebaggery he's pulling. Camby might be the frontrunner, but if he gets hurt, as he seems to often enough, then Bruce has got to be a clear cut favorite. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time the media's let me down.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Artest still pulled the award with a fair amount of douchebaggery a couple years ago

[pache100]

Artest still pulled the award with a fair amount of douchebaggery a couple years ago

Artest didn't "win" the title that year. His coach's pathetic campaigning for him is what got it for him.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

pathetic yes, but it worked

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I think what really gets my goat is that looking at video of what Artest and Bowen do while guarding a guy is very similar in terms of the physicality and contact. But Bowen gets labeled "dirty" while Artest is known as "physical."

[Cant_Be_Faded]

It's cuz he's more marketable, or at least he was.

"Tru Warrier" hahahahha

[T Park]

Because Artest is what the NBA likes.

Hip hop. Boastfull, full of himself.


Bowen is David Robinsonesque. Not full of himself, quiet, does his work, and does it wonderfully.


Bowen has turned easily into one of my favorite players.


Anyone notice him getting yanked in the beginning of the third quarter for not rotating out to Mobley quick enough?

That was interesting.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Because Artest is what the NBA likes.

Hip hop. Boastfull, full of himself.


Bowen is David Robinsonesque. Not full of himself, quiet, does his work, and does it wonderfully.


Bowen has turned easily into one of my favorite players.


Anyone notice him getting yanked in the beginning of the third quarter for not rotating out to Mobley quick enough?

That was interesting.
do you have an authentic and replica bowen jersey

[ShoogarBear]

Pretty amazing that he is averaging a career high in minutes considering the Finley addition. I wonder if that will continue.

Yeah, I'm not really sure what to make of that. Most people would have bet at the start of the year that he would have the biggest drop in minutes of anyone.

Maybe that's Pop's way of thumbing his nose at the experts.

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, I'm not really sure what to make of that. Most people would have bet at the start of the year that he would have the biggest drop in minutes of anyone.

Maybe that's Pop's way of thumbing his nose at the experts.

I'm sure Pop's original plan was to scale Bowen back (or keep him around 30) but with the injuries to Manu, Barry and Fin, I guess it's been impossible.

Bowen is probably in better physical shape than anyone on the team. I know his body will eventually need more rest, but at this point (thankfully) he's still good to go.

[T Park]

When Ginobili gets back, and they go against teams with not so athletic guards and or forwards, then Pop will be able to play Ginobili Finley, or Finley Barry or Ginobili Barry or....

You get the picture.


Finley's D has improved, although its probobly Clipper level D, and not Maverick D anymore.


Damn it takes awile to beat the Maverick D out of these guys lol.

[SA Gunslinger]

Bowen has been incredible this season. He is the one guy that has improved significantly from last season which is kinda of hard to believe. You would think he would have lost half a step over the summer but he's just as quick and stronger than ever. Offensively, he's as efficient as they come except for the free throws.

BOWEN FOR DPOY!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

There is nothing I have seen out of Bowen this season to overshadow his past accomplishments. Are you people saying the competition is shittier this season?

[LilMissSPURfect]

im saying bruce is da man ........

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I think Bruce owns, but I can be honest and say he's done nothing this year that makes him a better defender than in previous years.

[SouthernFried]

Bowen is just consistent. He plays the same D, year in...year out. Whether you think he's better than previous years...I dunno. But, he sure ain't worse.

And if reputation gets him the DPOY award...thats fine with me. His earned that damn reputation. If he can last 4 more years, playing with the same consistency...then there should be another award, just for him.

Defensive Player of the Decade.

[ShoogarBear]

Nobody said his defense is better. But it sure isn't worse. And the rest of his game is more complete than its ever been.

Overall, he's a much better player at 34 than he was at 30. How many other players could say that.

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Bowen will win it this year.

Theres no way in hell that Artest will win, considering all this trade business. And as much as I hate to admit it, Big Ben seems to be on the decline. He is not the Ben Wallace of 3 years ago. I'm a bit worried that the Pistons will give him a huge contract and end up hugely overpaying for a player on a steady decline.

To his defense (no pun intended :lol ), he's working with two bum ankles. But still, theres no denying that his play isn't at the level that it has been in the past.

[JamStone]

As mentioned, Marcus Camby will contend for DPOY. If Kirilenko stays healthy, he'll contend. And, if Pat Riley decides that Alonzo Mourning can play some power forward with Shaq, and Zo plays 25-30 minutes a game, he'll be in contention.

[Pistons < Spurs]

He is not the Ben Wallace of 3 years ago. I'm a bit worried that the Pistons will give him a huge contract and end up hugely overpaying for a player on a steady decline.




I soooooo agree. I'm sure he'll get a near max deal, but it would be a terrible mistake.

[leemajors]

I soooooo agree. I'm sure he'll get a near max deal, but it would be a terrible mistake.

if he is on the decline and gets a near max deal, it still wouldn't be hard to fleece the knicks in a few years in a trade.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Overall, he's a much better player at 34 than he was at 30. How many other players could say that.


truuuu truuuuu

but theres always some defensive show boat that dunks ferocoiusly that will garner more votes than quiet 'ole bruce

If we really want Bruce to win, we need Pop to compile some bogus, unsubstantiated stats in Bruce's favor and/or Bruce to release a sub-sub-par rap album. That'll show 'em :fro

[sprrs]

I think Bruce owns, but I can be honest and say he's done nothing this year that makes him a better defender than in previous years.

Better name recognition, especially after last year's playoffs

[ShoogarBear]

Bump.

Chris friggin Bosh?

[SequSpur]

Bowen has no steals, now one block and doesn't rebound... I seriously doubt he is the DPOY.

[exstatic]

He shut down Bosh in OT. We were down two bigs, Bowen moved to the 4 spot, and he fucking SHUT HIM DOWN.

DPOY


P.S. It was weird seeing Bowen inbound the ball as the four in the lineup.

[SequSpur]

He shut down Bosh in OT. We were down two bigs, Bowen moved to the 4 spot, and he fucking SHUT HIM DOWN.
DPOY
P.S. It was weird seeing Bowen inbound the ball as the four in the lineup.

Dude is one of the top 3 ball shooters in the league but he doesn't get the nod for the a-star game?

Dude plays starter minutes with no stats.... I seriously doubt it...

Ben Wallace... again.

[Kori Ellis]

Bowen has proven this season that he can actually guard the bigs in short stretches with his fronting. He's so friggin' skinny that I don't know how he holds his ground, but he manages to do it. This isn't the first game that he's been moved over to guard a power forward late in a game and done well. It's amazing to me. Tonight was incredible that Bosh didn't even touch the ball in OT.

I'm sure the NBA will find another glory player to give the DPOY trophy, but I hope not.

[Spurminator]

It remains to be seen if anyone except Spurs fans will notice Bowen guarded Bosh in crunch time...

[1Parker1]

As great as Bruce is, I don't think he'll get it. I thought the same thing last year. I don't think he really gets appreciated for what he does because it's overshadowed by Duncan's excellent defense in the paint.

[T Park]

Marcus Camby will win it Im sure.


Bowen deserves it more than ever.

Shutting down an uber atheltic 7 footer in clutch moments of a game is fan fucking tastic.

[SequSpur]

Marcus Camby will win it Im sure.

Bowen deserves it more than ever.

Shutting down an uber atheltic 7 footer in clutch moments of a game is fan fucking tastic.

Toronto.................. :rolleyes

[Kori Ellis]

If Camby can stay healthy, then maybe. But he's already missed quite a bit of time.

[Spurminator]

Camby's missed too many games. Artest too. I agree with Sequ... The voters will be lazy and give it to Wallace again.

Of course, I remember thinking Wallace got overlooked one year they gave the lazy vote to Mutumbo so maybe he's due.

[Kori Ellis]

Toronto.................. :rolleyes

It's Chris Bosh, dumbass. It doesn't matter who he plays for.

I know you are a Bowen hate train lately, but get off. You are becoming too annoying.

[yeahone]

well its a pity he will be snubbed again this year

[T Park]

Toronto..................

Bosh is almost 5 inches taller than him.

Hes also a freakin all star.


Grow a brain shrimpdork.

[T Park]

You are becoming too annoying.

becoming?

That would mean, he wasn't before.

[SequSpur]

It's Chris Bosh, dumbass. It doesn't matter who he plays for.

I know you are a Bowen hate train lately, but get off. You are becoming too annoying.

Bowen is not a DPOY candidate.

No stats....

Defend that.

[Kori Ellis]

Bowen is not a DPOY candidate.

No stats....

Defend that.

How is he not a candidate? He was second in the DPOY voting last year. So he's a candidate.

[T Park]

No stats?

How about Vince clitbrain Carter going o fer with a couple turnovers in the Spurs last meeting.


Hows that for stats shit for brains.

[bdubya]

I think what really gets my goat is that looking at video of what Artest and Bowen do while guarding a guy is very similar in terms of the physicality and contact. But Bowen gets labeled "dirty" while Artest is known as "physical."

Use a spell-checker; that's P-S-Y-C-H-O.

HTH,
bw
PS- It's not even the AS break, but Bowen seems to making a strong case so far.

[SequSpur]

No stats?
How about Vince clitbrain Carter going o fer with a couple turnovers in the Spurs last meeting.
Hows that for stats shit for brains.

Vince Carter averages 35 a game against SA. What were you saying?

[T Park]

Look at his stats in the 4th quarter when the Spurs won.


Come again short fuck.

[Spurologist]

Steve Kerr says

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AovA4QT.6rXHlOcf1rIYEey8vLYF?slug=sk-midseason020806&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Defensive Player of the First Half
Bruce Bowen – It's time Bowen won this award, isn't it? His tenacious perimeter defense has frustrated opposing players for years, and it is a key to the Spurs' defensive system. His job is to funnel his man to the baseline and into the waiting arms of Tim Duncan and company. Bowen does much more than that. He is like a shutdown cornerback in football who takes one side of the field away. If you are trying to slow down a hot perimeter player, there is no better choice for a defender than Bowen.

And that's the bottom line cause Steve Kerr said so

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Bowen has always been the best spur this season.

[Wallace ²]

ive heard a lot of people saying that AK - 47 will get it if he stays healthy.

[newbiefan]

''And that's the bottom line cause Steve Kerr said so''. He's not the only one saying it, have heard some announcers in other games (ESPN,TNT,NBATV- not just the local channels) calling Bowen a 'premier defensive specialist and contender for defensive player of the year"". Or did I dream it??

[101A]

I, frankly, thought last night's game made a very strong case for Timmy being DPOY...114 pts. by the Raptors in regulation??? 25 points MORE than the Spurs typically give up!

Bowen "D" is strong on the Perimeter; but Duncan affects the WHOLE game of the opposing squad.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

I, frankly, thought last night's game made a very strong case for Timmy being DPOY...114 pts. by the Raptors in regulation??? 25 points MORE than the Spurs typically give up!

Bowen "D" is strong on the Perimeter; but Duncan affects the WHOLE game of the opposing squad.

Agreed. Bowen might be the BEST defender (in terms of overall skills, versatility, etc.) in the league but I think for the Spurs, Duncan is the more important defender. The Raptors shot something like 55% in regulation and seemed to be able to get to the rim at will in the 4th. They also outrebounded the Spurs by a significant margin, and going into that game they were the 3rd worst rebounding team in the league.

[ShoogarBear]

I, frankly, thought last night's game made a very strong case for Timmy being DPOY...114 pts. by the Raptors in regulation??? 25 points MORE than the Spurs typically give up!

Bowen "D" is strong on the Perimeter; but Duncan affects the WHOLE game of the opposing squad.
This is a good point, however, the Spurs have a very system-based defense predicated on having the perimeter guys funnel shooters to the baseline. Without a big guy waiting to meet them, the system falls apart, so it's not surprising they have trouble dealing with the loss of that cog.

On the other hand, you remember what happened to the Spurs the last time Bruce went out with an injury a few years ago? I think they went something like 8-8.

[himat]

top 5 candidates
ben wallace
bruce bowen
andrei kirilenko
marcus camby
ron artest

I think bowen will finally win it. i think ben and kirilenko could take it as well though.

[FreshPrince22]

engrave it...

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/4/4b/250px-Ben_Wallace.jpg

The guy defends 5 players at once.

[T Park]

Didn't know the dude from the little rascals was playin basketball in the nba!!!