Spurs Select Sidy Cissoko with the 44th Overall Pick in the 2023 NBA Draft

[Mr. Body]

If true, makes you wonder if they had a deal in place with Cissoko’s agent once the second round started and he helped guide his client to SA.

The second round is so weird with this stuff. Trayce Jackson-Davis supposedly wasn’t interested in Indiana so the Pacers so they passed on him. Their GM said as much.

The belief is that Portland had a deal with Rupert in such a manner. It would make the weirdness around the trade off the 33 pick make more sense.

[spurraider21]

Math-wise that works, obviously. But isn't that just wasting money? Better to overpay a useful player on a one-year deal than to just overpay the end of the bench, no?
AvOiD cOsTlY mIsTaKeS!

[CGD]

One way for Spurs to reach the salary floor could be to be very generous with their end of the roster players. They could enter training camp with 16 or 17 players with fully guaranteed contracts and/or give them contracts similar to the ones they gave to Bassey.

Why not? They were already very generous to those players when they failed to reach the floor last year and all those guys got like a 700K bonus.

[Bruno]

Math-wise that works, obviously. But isn't that just wasting money? Better to overpay a useful player on a one-year deal than to just overpay the end of the bench, no?

Well, it would allow Spurs to evaluate players likes Mamu, Champagnie, Cissoko and even Wesley during a whole training camp to have a better idea on who is NBA material.

It may not be the best use of money but I don't find it is fully wasted.

[RC_Drunkford]

I don’t mind it. One of the 4 guys had to get a guaranteed deal. It was either Sidy or Champagnie

[timvp]

1674830711965073431

Sidy getting a guaranteed contract. Little surprising, no?

This has to be a contract with a guarantee in it -- not a guaranteed contract. We'll see but I'm guessing something like a multi-year deal with part of the first season guaranteed.

[Ariel]

This has to be a contract with a guarantee in it -- not a guaranteed contract. We'll see but I'm guessing something like a multi-year deal with part of the first season guaranteed.
It's got to be more than that. I say at least 1 year guaranteed, likely 1st year guaranteed, 2nd year partially guaranteed, 3rd (and maybe 4th) year non guaranteed.

[timvp]

It's got to be more than that. I say at least 1 year guaranteed, likely 1st year guaranteed, 2nd year partially guaranteed, 3rd (and maybe 4th) year non guaranteed.

Perhaps. That's what Tre Jones got and he was pick 41 -- so 44 could be in that same ballpark.

There's that new second round contract exception in the CBA that probably would provide a hint ........... but I haven't gotten to that page of the CBA yet :lol

[Ariel]

My logic is the Spurs won't cut Wemby's pal in his rookie season even if for non basketball related seasons (great guy, cultured, FRENCH), so no point in being super aggressive. Plus it allows them the extra non guaranteed years that's where the value lies IMO.

[timvp]

My logic is the Spurs won't cut Wemby's pal in his rookie season even if for non basketball related seasons (great guy, cultured, FRENCH), so no point in being super aggressive. Plus it allows them the extra non guaranteed years that's where the value lies IMO.

From what I'm hearing, the plan going into today was to offer Cissoko a two-way contract. Maybe things have changed in the last few hours or will change but it sounds like "guaranteed contract" talk is premature. We'll see.

[CGD]

^ or lost in translation

[Mr. Body]

I'd be mildly irritated if he gets a guaranteed contract, don't know why.

[spurraider21]

From what I'm hearing, the plan going into today was to offer Cissoko a two-way contract. Maybe things have changed in the last few hours or will change but it sounds like "guaranteed contract" talk is premature. We'll see.
id be pretty disappointed if 2 of our big boy roster spots were held by cissoko and osman on opening night

[CGD]

id be pretty disappointed if 2 of our big boy roster spots were held by cissoko and osman on opening night

I would expect Spurs to be compensated for taking on Cedí.

[ismael-robert]

Being smart and respecting the professionals and waiting to see how they're used in spurs system

[Chinook]

This has to be a contract with a guarantee in it -- not a guaranteed contract. We'll see but I'm guessing something like a multi-year deal with part of the first season guaranteed.

Reminds me of, I think Forbes the first time around. He got a two-year min deal with the first year guaranteed. But the source that broke the news (I think it was some local paper up in MI) just said a guaranteed deal.



Perhaps. That's what Tre Jones got and he was pick 41 -- so 44 could be in that same ballpark.

There's that new second round contract exception in the CBA that probably would provide a hint ........... but I haven't gotten to that page of the CBA yet :lol

Don't forget that two-way deals can have guarantees in them as well.

The good news about that new exception is that it doesn't fit a cap until sometime during the summer league. So the Spurs don't have to worry about that when trying to use their cap space.

[kobyz]

I hope Sidy could justify a nickname Psycho Cissoko, we need someone like that...

[Bruno]

Baskonia's GM is confirming that Cissoko will get a guaranteed contract:

https://www.gasteizhoy.com/felix-fernandez-confirma-la-marcha-de-thompson-al-efes/


They have offered him a guaranteed 2-year contract. Everything indicates that he will stay in San Antonio. He will pay his buyout clause and everyone is happy. We are very happy for Sidy. He is a player who has fought a lot.

[Dejounte]

Nba’s new thicc boi after kyle lowry

[SpursFan86]

Been really impressive in almost every way aside from scoring…but holy shit has he been awful there :lol If he can even become a mediocre scorer then he’d be a serviceable bench guy IMO. He’s still super young and it’s early so we’ll see how he progresses.

[Mr. Body]

Baskonia's GM is confirming that Cissoko will get a guaranteed contract:

https://www.gasteizhoy.com/felix-fernandez-confirma-la-marcha-de-thompson-al-efes/

Really hope this is lost in translation/coach doesn't know the nuances. Cissoko on a big boy contract creates problems, not huge ones, but avoidable ones.

[Bruno]

Really hope this is lost in translation/coach doesn't know the nuances. Cissoko on a big boy contract creates problems, not huge ones, but avoidable ones.

NBA's CBA doesn't allow teams to pay an international buyout for a player signed with a two-way contract. So even if Cissoko is fine with a two-way contract, this buyout issue makes it nearly impossible to do.

I guess Spurs knew about it before the draft and a two way contract was never really an option for Cissoko.

[CGD]

NBA's CBA doesn't allow teams to pay an international buyout for a player signed with a two-way contract. So even if Cissoko is fine with a two-way contract, this buyout issue makes it nearly impossible to do.

I guess Spurs knew about it before the draft and a two way contract was never really an option for Cissoko.

But I thought he was on G League Ignite all last year? Does he still have a buyout issue?

[Bruno]

But I thought he was on G League Ignite all last year? Does he still have a buyout issue?

It looks like the agreement between Cissoko and Baskonia was that he played a year in G League and came back to Baskonia at the end of the season. It was a loan.

From Baskonia's official website:
https://www.baskonia.com/sidy-cissoko-jugara-en-la-nba-g-league-ignite-la-proxima-temporada/

[Mr. Body]

This makes the whole 'pass on players at pick 33 then take Sidy anyway at 44' thing even stranger.

[Cabrito]

If he keeps refining, he can be a Ron Artest type but with better handles and passing. Although Artest was a heck of a physical defender. Even as Meta World Peace, our guy has a ways to go.

[Ariel]

Really hope this is lost in translation/coach doesn't know the nuances. Cissoko on a big boy contract creates problems, not huge ones, but avoidable ones.
Not lost in translation, he's under contract in Baskonia and needs to pay a buyout to go to the NBA, and he's been offered a 2 year guaranteed deal ("Le han ofertado un contrato de 2 años garantizados" also wouldn't be inconsistent with a longer contract with only the first 2 years being guaranteed). This comes from roughly the equivalent of an NBA GM for Baskonia.

[rascal]

He's playing like what he is, a mid second round pick.

[Ariel]

He's playing like what he is, a mid second round pick.
A #44 pick who just turned 19.

[jhfenton]

This makes the whole 'pass on players at pick 33 then take Sidy anyway at 44' thing even stranger.

In one sense, yes. But the buyout->need for a guaranteed contract may have increased their confidence they could get him at #44. If that's the case, why not trade the more valuable 2nd rounder.

[duncan2150]

He's playing like what he is, a mid second round pick.

I saw a lot of Spurs secound round players in the SL and they rarely have his D or his passing abilities.

[spurraider21]

Baskonia's GM is confirming that Cissoko will get a guaranteed contract:

https://www.gasteizhoy.com/felix-fernandez-confirma-la-marcha-de-thompson-al-efes/


NBA's CBA doesn't allow teams to pay an international buyout for a player signed with a two-way contract. So even if Cissoko is fine with a two-way contract, this buyout issue makes it nearly impossible to do.

I guess Spurs knew about it before the draft and a two way contract was never really an option for Cissoko.
Well that’s disappointing. Unless they have buyers remorse and they trade his rights

[Uriel]

I think Cissoko’s talent compares favorably with many of our previous second round picks (Weiskamp, Weatherspoon, Blossomgame, etc). In fact, he was considered to be a first-round talent before he slid in many mocks towards the end of the pre-draft process.

In that sense, his closest comparison would be Tre Jones, who was also considered a first-round talent that slid to the second round.

[Darkwaters]

If he keeps refining, he can be a Ron Artest type but with better handles and passing. Although Artest was a heck of a physical defender. Even as Meta World Peace, our guy has a ways to go.

Cissoko might be a heck of a physical defender too. But is he willing to defend against fans throwing cups at him from the stands.

Ron Artest was.

[GAustex]

Search for that story of Ime and that UT forward Gabe Moeneke beating up Algerian fans in some African BB tourney.

[Degoat]

So does this pretty much confirm he’s on a guaranteed deal? Makes the moves for Cedi and Bullock stranger because our roster will be full

[Darkwaters]

Search for that story of Ime and that UT forward Gabe Moeneke beating up Algerian fans in some African BB tourney.

I go back and read that story every couple of years. It's a great read.

[rascal]

I saw a lot of Spurs secound round players in the SL and they rarely have his D or his passing abilities.

Should have taken Andre Jackson at 33 who has better D and better passing and better finishing at the rim.

[GAustex]

He looks good defending and ball handling/passing (small sample)
Shooting/finishing ugh
Rebounding is good too

[rascal]

He looks good defending and ball handling/passing (small sample)
Shooting/finishing ugh
Rebounding is good too

He looks too slow as compared to Andre Jackson.

That's who I'm comparing him to because the Spurs could have had Jackson at 33 if they wanted primarily a defensive player.

Neither Jackson or Sidy can shoot but I'll take Jackson who is better in other areas.

[Obstructed_View]

Cissoko might be a heck of a physical defender too. But is he willing to defend against fans throwing cups at him from the stands.

Ron Artest was.

Yeah, but is he willing to defend against fans NOT throwing cups at him from the stands?

Ron Artest was.

[Mitch Cumsteen]

Can somebody please explain to me what the big deal is on whether he's on a two way or a regular contract? Did the Bullock trade move the Spurs up against the second apron or something? They can move off his contract with near zero repercussions if they need to. I get that they have some interesting prospects at the end of the bench and there's an opportunity cost / roster crunch there, but I don't think the 12-15 spots on this roster are necessarily overflowing with future hall of famers.

With regard to Sidy's game, I feel like he's going to be (at least) a rotation level NBA player. He's only 19 with an NBA body who is a willing and rugged switchable defender with next level passing skills. The things that are broken with him are fixable. The things you can't teach, he has in spades. I look at him as a Draymond starter kit. Not saying he ever gets near that level, but he's potentially a more than useful piece and well worth a two year investment to see if it pays dividends.

[ChumpDumper]

Can somebody please explain to me what the big deal is on whether he's on a two way or a regular contract? Did the Bullock trade move the Spurs up against the second apron or something? They can move off his contract with near zero repercussions if they need to. I get that they have some interesting prospects at the end of the bench and there's an opportunity cost / roster crunch there, but I don't think the 12-15 spots on this roster are necessarily overflowing with future hall of famers. Yeah, I think people might still be in free agency mode even though the Spurs took their big swings early and nothing happened.

[spurraider21]

Ship him back and Europe and make him a draft and stash :lol

[Darkwaters]

Yeah, but is he willing to defend against fans NOT throwing cups at him from the stands?

Ron Artest was.

Ron Artest is a legend and one of my favorite players of all time. Not for anything the dude did on the court. The dude was straight up nuts.

[Obstructed_View]

Ron Artest is a legend and one of my favorite players of all time. Not for anything the dude did on the court. The dude was straight up nuts.

LMAO for sure. He attacked the wrong dude in Detroit to set that shit off. The look on the guy's face still makes me laugh way too hard.

[Atl Spur]

Sidy will end up being a decent to good shooter at minimum….book it! The kid is untapped.

[Darkwaters]

Sidy will end up being a decent to good shooter at minimum….book it! The kid is untapped.

I hope so. I remember a long time ago reading one of TimVP's game grades for a summer league game that Ian Mahinmi was playing in. He said that he "didn't look like he was so much shooting but just generally throwing the ball in the direction of the basket."

Based on two Summer League games so far I have essentially the same assessment of Cissoko. Here's hoping he puts it together!

[Obstructed_View]

Someday a coach is going to get the bright idea to teach a guy with such a broken jumper to shoot with his opposite hand. It would be quicker to start from scratch than to unlearn a half dozen bad habits.

[GAustex]

Poor kid damn near broke the rim on that last layup attempt

[BatManu20]

Damn. Was really hoping he’d get a two-way. This is the first poor decision by PATFO this off-season imo. Does this kid no good to rot at the end of the bench. Should be in austin improving his game tbh.

[Obstructed_View]

Poor kid damn near broke the rim on that last layup attempt
But the move to get there was genuinely impressive. :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Damn. Was really hoping he’d get a two-way. This is the first poor decision by PATFO this off-season imo. Does this kid no good to rot at the end of the bench. Should be in austin improving his game tbh.


Can't they assign him as often as they want?

[spurraider21]

Damn. Was really hoping he’d get a two-way. This is the first poor decision by PATFO this off-season imo. Does this kid no good to rot at the end of the bench. Should be in austin improving his game tbh.
pretty sure big league players can still be assigned to the gleague

but he's gonna hold a roster spot

[Darkwaters]

Damn. Was really hoping he’d get a two-way. This is the first poor decision by PATFO this off-season imo. Does this kid no good to rot at the end of the bench. Should be in austin improving his game tbh.

Players on regular contracts can still be assigned to Austin. For instance, if the Spurs really wanted to they technically could send Victor Wembanyama to Austin.

The two-way roster spots are in addition to the regular 15 spots. But they're only allowed to play so many games in the NBA (I believe it's 50 now) without being converted to a full regular contract. They also get paid less as a two-way player.

That in no way prevents the Spurs from sending rookies on full contracts to play in the G League.

[BatManu20]

Can't they assign him as often as they want?

Thought there was a limit? But I guess not? My b. If that’s the case, I hope he spends most of the season in Austin and is only called up when we’re resting guys or for injuries. Keldon, Champ, McDermott, Cedi, Bullock, etc. Just too many better players right now at his position who need burn.

[BatManu20]

Players on regular contracts can still be assigned to Austin. For instance, if the Spurs really wanted to they technically could send Victor Wembanyama to Austin.

The two-way roster spots are in addition to the regular 15 spots. But they're only allowed to play so many games in the NBA (I believe it's 50 now) without being converted to a full regular contract. They also get paid less as a two-way player.

That in no way prevents the Spurs from sending rookies on full contracts to play in the G League.

Gotcha. Thanks :tu

[Obstructed_View]

Thought there was a limit? But I guess not? My b. If that’s the case, I hope he spends most of the season in Austin and is only called up when we’re resting guys or for injuries. Keldon, Champ, McDermott, Cedi, Bullock, etc. Just too many better players right now at his position who need burn.
The reason you thought it was that way is because it was. They changed it a year or two ago.

Agree on the other guys needing the PT, but he spent last year playing at that level. Hope he gets at least a little time with the big team.

[The Truth #6]

He may be on the big club to serve as Victor’s friend and sit on the bench. Just speculating on a hypothesis.

[Obstructed_View]

He may be on the big club to serve as Victor’s friend and sit on the bench. Just speculating on a hypothesis.
As second round picks in summer league go, he looks pretty decent, IMO.

[GAustex]

^the same place Primo should have been picked

[Obstructed_View]

^the same place Primo should have been picked
If he had been picked in the second round, the Spurs would still be under the salary floor.

[spurraider21]

If he had been picked in the second round, the Spurs would still be under the salary floor.
for a team that apparently is still active in trying to absorb contracts, that seems like one of those good problems to have

[Obstructed_View]

for a team that apparently is still active in trying to absorb contracts, that seems like one of those good problems to have

I thought everybody was freaking out about it.

[rascal]

Andre Jackson > Cissoko

Jackson is far more athletic and quicker and is better at what Cissoko brings - defense. Jackson can't shoot but is a better overall offensive player than Cissoko, as he's a better passer and finisher around the basket.

Cissoko looks like he's playing with weights in his pockets that slows him down laterally and affects his vertical lift.

Trading that 33rd pick was the worst move this off season.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Andre Jackson > Cissoko

Jackson is far more athletic and quicker and is better at what Cissoko brings - defense. Jackson can't shoot but is a better overall offensive player than Cissoko, as he's a better passer and finisher around the basket.

Cissoko looks like he's playing with weights in his pockets that slows him down laterally and affects his vertical lift.

Trading that 33rd pick was the worst move this off season.
are you going to post this every day?

[Mr. Body]

Andre Jackson will never learn to shoot. Cissoko still might.

[slick'81]

Dude looks like a chubbier primo. And im just talking looks cuz clearly he cant put the ball in the basket

[rascal]

Dude looks like a chubbier primo. And im just talking looks cuz clearly he cant put the ball in the basket

Yeah, he looks chubby

There was a play where he was dribbling and dribbled the ball right to an opponent with no contact or anything.

I don't like his game at all and doesn't deserve a roster spot.

[rascal]

Andre Jackson will never learn to shoot. Cissoko still might.

Jackson is so much better in so many other areas.

And good luck hoping Cissoko will learn how to shoot. I never see him being much of an offensive player with the way he moves.

[Dverde]

He seems to have the intangibles. He chases the ball like it owes him money. I think he’ll be a solid bench guy.

[Mr. Body]

Jackson is so much better in so many other areas.

And good luck hoping Cissoko will learn how to shoot. I never see him being much of an offensive player with the way he moves.

Is Andre Jackson your new Shaeden Sharpe? You'll just talk about him endlessly for the next year?

[Obstructed_View]

Is Andre Jackson your new Shaeden Sharpe? You'll just talk about him endlessly for the next year?
You know, guys, the ignore list works if all of you use it, or at least stop using 'reply with quote'.

[rascal]

Is Andre Jackson your new Shaeden Sharpe? You'll just talk about him endlessly for the next year?

Cissoko kinda sucks. Can't even get to spots on the floor to get open looks for shots.

Sharpe is looking good. Admit you were wrong about him and Amen and Scoot. You are horrible at player analysis.

[Mr. Body]

Cissoko kinda sucks. Can't even get to spots on the floor to get open looks for shots.

Sharpe is looking good. Admit you were wrong about him and Amen and Scoot. You are horrible at player analysis.

Sharpe looks like he did last year. He can shoot from the corners and when he has a lane he can drive and dunk. That's mostly it. Those are good skills, but that makes him a 3 and D player and he doesn't play defense. It's okay, he's still very young.

[ace3g]

This gif came to mind when that player tried to get around the Sidy pick and instead hugged him and drew the phantom illegal screen call...

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ShockedIllinformedIchthyosaurs-max-1mb.gif

[buttsR4rebounding]

He may be on the big club to serve as Victor’s friend and sit on the bench. Just speculating on a hypothesis.

I don't think they ever played together. Just because they are both French doesn't mean they are friends. Is every American your friend?

[Darkwaters]

I don't think they ever played together. Just because they are both French doesn't mean they are friends. Is every American your friend?

Hell yea they are! Merica!

https://i.etsystatic.com/6230905/r/il/785ade/3426935848/il_794xN.3426935848_iv33.jpg

[tonight...you]

Hell yea they are! Merica!

https://i.etsystatic.com/6230905/r/il/785ade/3426935848/il_794xN.3426935848_iv33.jpg
Okay, the unzipped fly got me laughing out loud.

[TD 21]

He might have one of the worst strokes of all time. Without drastic improvement, he'd have to be an elite defender/positional rebounder/"connector" type to stick long term and be utilized as a roll man amid four out spacing.

Like a forward version of Brown (until last season) or Payton II.

[RC_Drunkford]

His defense is legit. His jump shot is non-existant. They should first tell him to try to hit the backboard. After that tell him to try to hit the rim. If he ever gets there they can work on him actually hitting shots

[Darkwaters]

He might have one of the worst strokes of all time. Without drastic improvement, he'd have to be an elite defender/positional rebounder/"connector" type to stick long term and be utilized as a roll man amid four out spacing.

Like a forward version of Brown (until last season) or Payton II.

For this reason I have to serious wonder if he's even playable in the NBA right now. His offense is so completely ineffective as to make him an absolute liability.

And if that's true, then I can't in good conscience think giving him anything but a 2-way deal is a good idea.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Hell yea they are! Merica!

https://i.etsystatic.com/6230905/r/il/785ade/3426935848/il_794xN.3426935848_iv33.jpg

Is that Monica holding on to Bill's, er, leg? I miss Bill Clinton. Only competent Democratic president of my lifetime. Did lots of good things.

[GAustex]

The blue dress

[Darkwaters]

I'm pretty sure that's Ronald McDonald in the background laying down cover fire for Slick Willy

[exstatic]

Sidy will end up being a decent to good shooter at minimum….book it! The kid is untapped.

I love your optimism, but the yips are sometimes fatal to a career, no matter the sport. That shot is fucking ugly.

[exstatic]

Someday a coach is going to get the bright idea to teach a guy with such a broken jumper to shoot with his opposite hand. It would be quicker to start from scratch than to unlearn a half dozen bad habits.

Supposedly, his shot was not always like this. He’s got the yips.

[GAustex]

They may end up giving him #54

[spurraider21]

Michael Kidd gilchrist?

[GAustex]

Jack Haley

[Atl Spur]

I love your optimism, but the yips are sometimes fatal to a career, no matter the sport. That shot is fucking ugly.

Sidy has tape out where he has displayed a quality shooting stroke; it may take a season or two but worth the investment in my opinion.

[BackHome]

Hell yea they are! Merica!

https://i.etsystatic.com/6230905/r/il/785ade/3426935848/il_794xN.3426935848_iv33.jpg

OMG...

[GAustex]

What is below Ronald’s leg
The blue glow

Also the alligator with the nuclear button

[tonight...you]

What is below Ronald’s leg
The blue glow

Also the alligator with the nuclear button
Ronald?
It's Bill.
That blue thing? Can't say, but I do love the nukacroc just chilling.

[Darkwaters]

What is below Ronald’s leg
The blue glow

Also the alligator with the nuclear button

Ronald? No no no. That's this picture....

https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2019/03/ronald_reagan_riding_a_velociraptor_1920-1024x683.jpg

[GAustex]

Ronald? No no no. That's this picture....

https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2019/03/ronald_reagan_riding_a_velociraptor_1920-1024x683.jpg

Look below Ronnie McDonnies leg there is something with a blue glow in it
Also there is a flying UFO in the upper left

[heyheymymy]

The blue glow looks like some robot head

[heyheymymy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xQkoKdPfPw

[kobyz]

He's getting a contract to be for Wemby what is Tanasis to Giannis

[BackHome]

He is Wemby low key body guard

[Ariel]

Andre Jackson will never learn to shoot. Cissoko still might.
It's not Jackson I'm looking over, it's Walsh. He provides much of the same defense and intangibles, and is a more credible offensive prospect. Plus, he started strong. If he pans out it's going to sting.

[The Truth #6]

It's not Jackson I'm looking over, it's Walsh. He provides much of the same defense and intangibles, and is a more credible offensive prospect. Plus, he started strong. If he pans out it's going to sting.

Yeah, Walsh was my SRP. We’ll see.

[John B]

Sidy is a bruiser and plays with a lot of motor. He will be in Pop’s good side. He’s a freight train coming down on a transition offense. But he needs to develop his outside shots to get minutes. I’m sure he’ll dominate in Austin next season, or I don’t know if he’s Wemby’s Jack Haley :lol:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Sucks that we can't put him on a two-way but he does enough grown man stuff out of the box to see if he can, you know, score a basket at some point in Cedar Park.

[scott]

Could today be the day that Sidy makes a FG?!?!?!

[RC_Drunkford]

Could today be the day that Sidy makes a FG?!?!?!

I doubt it. That‘s a long shot

[Atl Spur]

I doubt it. That‘s a long shot

I’ll take that bet:) I believe….. 50.00 shall we?

[Atl Spur]

Donated to spurs talk of course…….

[scott]

Sidy with TWO FGs at the half, including a THREE POINT FIELD GOAL?!?!?! WHAT IS THIS?

[Atl Spur]

Sidy does not need to be standing in a corner……put the ball in his hands.

[BatManu20]

This kid has shown us something these past couple games. He can play. Has an advanced feel for the game for his age. Passing, bring the ball up, defensively, hustle plays, etc. And went 2/2 from 3 tonight. Just keep working on that jumper young man.

[SpursFan86]

Legitimately just need him to be like a 35% corner 3 guy and he'll carve out a role. A little foul-happy but honestly some of the calls going against him have been bullshit. So far I like what we've seen though.

[Atl Spur]

He needs refinement but you cannot teach desire….. he would be a madman at the pg position. If nothing else, let him start facilitating more.

[Kurik]

His potential on defense really does seem exceptional if he can control the fouls. Loved the 3s! His passing also seems to surprise all of his teammates still, just need time for the chemistry to kick in.

[rascal]

He needs refinement but you cannot teach desire….. he would be a madman at the pg position. If nothing else, let him start facilitating more.

People going over board because he hit two shots.

Sidy is not a PG.

He still sucks

[Gibbz]

People going over board because he hit two shots.

Sidy is not a PG.

He still sucks

The fuck is wrong with you? He turned 19 three months ago. He at the least is an interesting prospect.

[Ariel]

People going over board because he hit two shots.

Sidy is not a PG.

He still sucks
I don't know why you're so aggravated... he's a 44th pick, he's expected to suck. I think he's got a long way to go and and yes, 2 shots in don't mean much, but let's give him some time to make a proper evaluation. Even if I'd rather have Walsh, there are some interesting things about him: he's long and built like a ox, plays with a lot of intensity, and seems like a willing and apt passer. At least that should buy him a year to evaluate him and see where he stands. He's shown 10x the IQ Sharpe has... ok, that doesn't mean much, but the rest stands. :lol

[GAustex]

Strong like bull

[Pauleta14]

He checks all the boxes of the prototype Spurs project imo

His weaknesses are workable

[scott]

What's his upside? Bruce Bowen? Just needs to develop that corner 3.

[Degoat]

What's his upside? Bruce Bowen? Just needs to develop that corner 3.

I see a more creative PJ Tucker

[Mugen]

I'll happily eat a shit pie for being pissed they traded away #33 if Sidy can become a non-liability on offense :lol

Kid has the makings of a really good defender tbh

[spursparker9]

What's his upside? Bruce Bowen? Just needs to develop that corner 3.

PJ Tucker with the passing vision.

[ace3g]

I know his foul totals have been high but he has been called for a lot of iffy fouls so far in SL.

[Atl Spur]

People going over board because he hit two shots.

Sidy is not a PG.

He still sucks

Comprehension on this board is not as high as I once thought. I again ask, were you a finished product in your profession at 19? He may end up being nothing in this league but I don’t value your assessment.

[cutewizard]

He needs refinement but you cannot teach desire….. he would be a madman at the pg position. If nothing else, let him start facilitating more.

Agree

[cutewizard]

Point Forward

Power Wing

[playblair]

spurstalk poster plz post a gif of his behind the back pass that made the crowd :spless:

[RC_Drunkford]

Sidy with TWO FGs at the half, including a THREE POINT FIELD GOAL?!?!?! WHAT IS THIS?

I was shocked :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Comprehension on this board is not as high as I once thought. I again ask, were you a finished product in your profession at 19? He may end up being nothing in this league but I don’t value your assessment.

you literally hype up EVERY player that we have/had on our roster. How dumb can you be? :lol

[Mitch Cumsteen]

He’s certainly a foul machine at this point, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy cause as many non- ball turnovers in such limited action. He really gets into people, making them travel or get called for moving picks or whatever. I’m not sure if that’s any sort of translatable skill but Sidy is for sure an irritant. Bowen isn’t the comp. Draymond is the comp, all the way down to the hothead plays, the ugly j, the doughy body (at his age) and the court vision. Sidy is very, very young. He needs a lot of time to incubate.

[Atl Spur]

you literally hype up EVERY player that we have/had on our roster. How dumb can you be? :lol

Not every player, some like Blake, others like malaki, etc…… I just point out some things that are obvious to me. I’m a spurs fan born and raised in the city:) I have no regrets or excuses while cheering for these dudes to get and be better. Now, if you would like to get personal I welcome that also….

[Atl Spur]

I was shocked :lol

Don’t be shocked put your bread up next time; how I have it figured is, you will stop spewing foolishness if there’s a price attached. I welcome any reasonable gentleman’s bet. We’ll create a Spurstalk kitty with your money ( maybe a spurstalk donkey of the day ) showcasing how dumb you are. No emoji

[Atl Spur]

RC focus and don’t burn my fries.

[John B]

Sidy reminds of Ewwbanks, high motor, likes to get dirty and dive for the ball, and likes to throw it down hard. Ewwbanks worked hard on his offensive game and bow carved a career in the NBA. I think Sidy has that same attitude. I doubt he gets discouraged easily. He left his family early at 13, to pursue his dream. He will work hard for Pop, and Pop is going to like this kid. I already like his athleticism going straight to the basket. He needs to do more of that, rimrun. Last night he showed he’s capable of shooting 3’s. He needs more of that to earn minutes. Already he is throwing his body out there, getting in the mixed of things. Just control the fouls. And I’m sure the coaching staff will drill him how to defend without getting fouls. Looking forward to see this kid develop.

[rascal]

I was shocked :lol

I wasn't.

I knew he could hit an occasional shot, everyone in the NBA can.

[rascal]

Don’t be shocked put your bread up next time; how I have it figured is, you will stop spewing foolishness if there’s a price attached. I welcome any reasonable gentleman’s bet. We’ll create a Spurstalk kitty with your money ( maybe a spurstalk donkey of the day ) showcasing how dumb you are. No emoji

That's a good idea.

Spurstalk should have a running account with fake money and everyone here can make bets with one another and those who win bets will increase their account total.

[Obstructed_View]

you literally hype up EVERY player that we have/had on our roster. How dumb can you be? :lol
Every nba-level player -every single one- has a path to being a good or great player in the league. It doesn't take much to be able to evaluate a player's strengths and weaknesses and suggest the things he can develop to take that path in the hopes that he will. We spend a lot of hours watching meaningless games full of guys who will be lucky to play a handful of games in the real NBA. If people don't invest all those hours because they hope for the best for their team then I have no idea why they bother.

I know some fans like to just make a guess and stick to it in the hopes that they can someday say, "hey look at how smart I am for guessing right" to people who don't care. Those same people like to write off the people who make evaluations as blind homers.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NBAFRANCE/status/1678282910225317915

[toki9]

https://twitter.com/NBAFRANCE/status/1678282910225317915

His shot doesn’t look totally bad. It is pretty measured and slow, though.

[RC_Drunkford]

Not every player, some like Blake, others like malaki, etc…… I just point out some things that are obvious to me. I’m a spurs fan born and raised in the city:) I have no regrets or excuses while cheering for these dudes to get and be better. Now, if you would like to get personal I welcome that also….

don't forget your guys Langford and Primo Ms. Cleo :lmao


Don’t be shocked put your bread up next time; how I have it figured is, you will stop spewing foolishness if there’s a price attached. I welcome any reasonable gentleman’s bet. We’ll create a Spurstalk kitty with your money ( maybe a spurstalk donkey of the day ) showcasing how dumb you are. No emoji

you fuckin idiot I live in another timezone that's 7 hours ahead of yours. I saw your post this morning :lol I'm not obsessed with you like you are with me. Get off my dick

[Atl Spur]

His shot doesn’t look totally bad. It is pretty measured and slow, though.

I agree; he has something to work from ( foundation is there ).

[Atl Spur]

don't forget your guys Langford and Primo Ms. Cleo :lmao



you fuckin idiot I live in another timezone that's 7 hours ahead of yours. I saw your post this morning :lol I'm not obsessed with you like you are with me. Get off my dick

Now that you’ve read the post, moving forward let’s do it:) Don’t deflect, just agree.

[RC_Drunkford]

Now that you’ve read the post, moving forward let’s do it:) Don’t deflect, just agree.

I don't let a bitch dictate what I do

[GAustex]

Miss Cleo getting bitch slapped

[Atl Spur]

I don't let a bitch dictate what I do

We both know I already dictate what you do……..you posted in a thread when I told you to. So, stop with all the lame name calling and agree or not:) Don’t let us see your whole camel toe… it’s only a few dollars you bum ass clown

[Atl Spur]

Miss Cleo getting bitch slapped

I worry about you…… your lifestyle can’t be healthy.

[RC_Drunkford]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA3LzOpoMlY

[Atl Spur]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA3LzOpoMlY

I’m done with you……. Not as fun as I thought it would be. Get yourself together

[playblair]

cissoko is a pg.......u can not not utilize the passing he is showing in summer league.......

[playblair]

pgpgpgpgpgpgpg......those passes:wow ......

[Obstructed_View]

So I'm at the point where I would rather have Sochan/Tre/Cissoko as the rotation running point than trying to make either Branham or Wesley do it.

Thoughts?

[Mr. Body]

So I'm at the point where I would rather have Sochan/Tre/Cissoko as the rotation running point than trying to make either Branham or Wesley do it.

Thoughts?

Branham isn't a point and I'm not sure why people keep saying he is. He's strictly looking for his shot at this point, and that's good. Wesley needs work but I don't mind keeping him in the rotation. I think we're getting overly excited about Cissoko, although I like him a good deal.

[BatManu20]

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[Atl Spur]

He’ll get his shot but his decision making will need to get better:) overall though, he’s a keeper.

[Mr. Body]

This is why people need to stop pissing their drawers about not picking some other guy. Cissoko has a unique skillset plus his size slots him at a great defensive range the team could use.

[John B]

I can see why Spurs drafted him. Not to sound repeatitious, he’s another big defensive body who can pass, rim run, secondary passer. I’m rooting that he can knockdown those 3’s and he’s in.

[Atl Spur]

Agree 1000%. We need a six foot eight point guard for our seven foot five inch big man or it will look weird. Plus he played point guard in euro league. Give him a shot, Pop, if you’re reading this!

I see you….

[Atl Spur]

I can see why Spurs drafted him. Not to sound repeatitious, he’s another big defensive body who can pass, rim run, secondary passer. I’m rooting that he can knockdown those 3’s and he’s in.

He seems Uber competitive and coachable ( per his g league coach Jason hart / former Spur ). If he can take pops ass chewings we may just have something. Bully ball with him as the lead ball handler is intriguing…..

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Forget the Green comparison. He reminds me of Manu with them slick passes, nose for the ball, knocking out ball and hard nosed defense.

[Dejounte]

If Barlow has been making us smile, Cissoko has been raising our eyebrows. The rookie has had some electrifying plays. Not saying he’s going to become a star or anything, but he is fun to watch. More fun to watch than guys who have improved tbh

[Kevin]

As already said this dude is a lot like Stanley Johnson in terms of build and skillset. Much like Johnson his career will depend on developing some semblance of scoring.

[CorrectCrusader]

Cissoko is a future 6 man of the year you heard it here first

[Atl Spur]

As already said this dude is a lot like Stanley Johnson in terms of build and skillset. Much like Johnson his career will depend on developing some semblance of scoring.


I don’t know …….. I kinda think they are different in skill set but time will tell.

[John B]

I don’t know …….. I kinda think they are different in skill set but time will tell.

I also comp Sidy with Stanley. Both burly who can defend, rim run and pass. The only big difference is the outside shot, but I hope Sidy will prove me wrong.

I liked Stanley’s game. At times he backed Sochan as defender and a Point Forward pushing the ball. Too bad he asked to be waived, but Spurs cleared a spot and got Champagnie (if I’m not mistaken) so that was that :lol

[DAF86]

I like his game, but untill he finds out how to put the ball in the basket he's unplayable, unfortunately. That new shooting coach has some serious work to do.

[GAustex]

As big as he is and his good handle finishing at the rim seems like he could do

[Atl Spur]

I like his game, but untill he finds out how to put the ball in the basket he's unplayable, unfortunately. That new shooting coach has some serious work to do.

If they loosen the reigns a bit we will see a better scoring Sidy; maybe no efficient in the beginning but more output.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Please learn to shoot Sidy because you'll be awesome! :prayingdog

[The Truth #6]

It looks like he is known for hot/cold shooting streaks, and very possible he started SL in a shooting downside. I read he shot 35% on spot up 3s for the season, which is promising, though his mechanics leave a lot to be desired.

But honestly, I didn’t watch much of him at all in SL, and hard to tell how he did overall judging from the emotional lability on the board here.

To me the dream is he is a serviceable starter and comes close to Keldon’s offensive bulldozing drives but with great defense and passing. But that’s a long way to get there, obviously. But with a shot of bourbon and some intense squinting, I can see a version of that path for him ahead.

[SpursFan86]

Feels a bit like a lazy comparison but I really do see some Diaw in him. The build is the most obvious aspect :lol But additionally he’s a very solid ball-handler for someone his size + has some really impressive vision/passing abilities particularly for a 19 year-old wing. Lastly, he seems to have some sneaky athleticism based on his Ignite highlights.

[BackHome]

I think he has potential I would really like them though to put him in the G League but make him run the point and also make him the number 1 or 2 on offense as far as taking shots or drives. I think his last year showed that he deferred to much to Scoot and to Leonard Miller which is a good thing with a seasoned team but bad if your trying to reach your potential.

[Obstructed_View]

Branham isn't a point and I'm not sure why people keep saying he is. He's strictly looking for his shot at this point, and that's good. Wesley needs work but I don't mind keeping him in the rotation. I think we're getting overly excited about Cissoko, although I like him a good deal.
Your first sentence could equally apply to Wesley. Branham ran some point last year. Probably more than Wesley did with the big team.

I like all three guys a good deal, but Sochan was the best at initiating the offense last season. That is why I wouldn't be opposed to having two point forwards just for consistency.

[GAustex]

Big body with them thick calves
That body type tends to gain weight.
Hopefully the kid can not Zion out on the Spurs

[Mr. Body]

Your first sentence could equally apply to Wesley. Branham ran some point last year. Probably more than Wesley did with the big team.

I like all three guys a good deal, but Sochan was the best at initiating the offense last season. That is why I wouldn't be opposed to having two point forwards just for consistency.

I consistently mean defense as well as offense. I'm not sure why so many of us ignore the other side of the ball. Branham cannot guard points at all, Wesley can.

I like Sochan but he's become overrated as a point.

[Obstructed_View]

I consistently mean defense as well as offense. I'm not sure why so many of us ignore the other side of the ball. Branham cannot guard points at all, Wesley can.

I like Sochan but he's become overrated as a point.
Wesley can play defense, but will he? He came into summer league showing a massive tendency toward reaching fouls and his closeouts are horrid. Let's be honest, neither of them are going to be called on for their defense.

Time will tell if Sochan is overrated. I stand by my evaluation of him. I watched virtually every minute he played.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1679557898807173120

[playblair]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1679557898807173120
look at those thighs :donkey he is a football lb playing basketball......

[tim_duncan_fan]

Sidy has AT LEAST Slomo energy. He is going to be at least a serviceable player for 10-12 years. Too much feel for the game not to.

[Chinook]

Can we start calling this dude Buttershot? Dude would've been a legit lotto option had he even a passable stroke. But as it is, I don't think he's an NBA player. He'd be completely unplayable in the modern game. Hell, even 10 years ago, he would've needed a stretch-five to function.

[Obstructed_View]

Right now he has only one speed, but he has a NBA body and his court vision is elite.

[cutewizard]

he is really a passing Power Wing

hope he develops his game,

[ace3g]

Spurs can work with this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F1C2T1JX0AAloqL?format=jpg&name=small

[cutewizard]

Can we start calling this dude Buttershot? Dude would've been a legit lotto option had he even a passable stroke. But as it is, I don't think he's an NBA player. He'd be completely unplayable in the modern game. Hell, even 10 years ago, he would've needed a stretch-five to function.


Cidy >>>> BUTTERSHOT

Champagne >>>> SILKWORM

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ClutchPointsApp/status/1680045799986667521

[TekXX]

IDK is there any hope for his offense?

[Uriel]

Cissoko is our most exciting 2nd round pick since Ryan Richards tbh :lol

[onechance87]

IDK is there any hope for his offense?

gonna have to work on it in the g league....He is to talented

[itzsoweezee]

This guy’s good. He’s like a young Boris Diaw

[slick'81]

This guy’s good. He’s like a young Boris Diaw


Sean Elliott made that comparison. We can only dream

[BackHome]

My issue with him is he has no wiggle to his game by that it’s North and South he has no change of direction on offense that won’t make it in the NBA. I like him but I am not going to fall in love with him for me its all about talent and I think that will have a decent pick and will get a very good pick from Raptors next year. But he does have potential and as Barlow has showed if you work hard you can make improvements just got to put in the work both mentally and physically

[rogcl1]

This guy’s good. He’s like a young Boris Diaw

Diaw when he was young was taking quarters off the top of backboards.

[Atl Spur]

He just need coaching; his handle and iq needs to be challenged.

[Mr. Body]

My issue with him is he has no wiggle to his game by that it’s North and South he has no change of direction on offense that won’t make it in the NBA. I like him but I am not going to fall in love with him for me its all about talent and I think that will have a decent pick and will get a very good pick from Raptors next year. But he does have potential and as Barlow has showed if you work hard you can make improvements just got to put in the work both mentally and physically

A lot of people here claiming they know what will or won't work in the NBA.

[spurraider21]

A lot of people here claiming they know what will or won't work in the NBA.
Austin Reaves will work

[itzsoweezee]

Diaw when he was young was taking quarters off the top of backboards.

I don’t know about that. But both are versatile, athletic, passing big men, without much of a shot.

[spurraider21]

I don’t know about that. But both are versatile, athletic, passing big men, without much of a shot.
Diaw was a much better athlete tbh. And taller, longer wingspan, etc. and he could score

The comparison is that they are chunky and can pass

[Spurs Homer]

Id take sissoko over wesley without hesitation right now- let alone after he improves in a year or two…

[offset formation]

Cidy needs to run point. Put the kid through Austin and intense dribbling camp and shooting camp.

He's like our 6'9" version of Magic. And his defense as a 6'9" PG to go along with the length behind him immediately makes our team light-years better on defense

[offset formation]

Austin Reaves will work

We almost made an offer to the kid. Almost

[BackHome]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1679557898807173120


Diaw when he was young was taking quarters off the top of backboards.

Yeah its kinda of funny but there are like 2 Diaws both very different the first one was him being drafted a young very skinny PG/SG the dude would fly all over the court extremely athletic had some monster dunks though sometimes played out of control and he probably weighed 190pds. The second Diaw 2.0 had bulked up/ate up his way to Point Forward the game had slowed down he would pick his spots as far as scoring but it’s his ball IQ and passing that really came to the front and he was weighing around 250 pds.

[couchman]

Cissoko is such a boom/bust prospect and exactly the kind of swing the Spurs should take on 2nd round picks.
He has elite vision and some other great physical attributes, but his shot is trash.
If he can’t fix it he’s out of the league quickly.
If the shot can be rebuilt he’ll play for a long time.

[Dejounte]

Lebron couldnt shoot during his first three years either tbh

he nice

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1680757928566083584

[Ariel]

Cidy needs to run point. Put the kid through Austin and intense dribbling camp and shooting camp.

He's like our 6'9" version of Magic. And his defense as a 6'9" PG to go along with the length behind him immediately makes our team light-years better on defense
He's not fast enough to play PG, I think he's more of a point forward. Very interesting player, he needs to learn to shoot, if he does he's an absolute steal. Indeed some of his drives are LeBronesque. I keep bringing up Walsh, but regardless of my griping, he was a very smart gamble.

[Spurs Homer]

He's not fast enough to play PG, I think he's more of a point forward. Very interesting player, he needs to learn to shoot, if he does he's an absolute steal. Indeed some of his drives are LeBronesque. I keep bringing up Walsh, but regardless of my griping, he was a very smart gamble.

is he as fast as luka?

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAPXtOw2NR8

[Dejounte]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAPXtOw2NR8

this highlight isnt gonna do him justice. He had some nifty passes where his teammates missed the shot

[CGD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAPXtOw2NR8

We need to keep this kid in the fold. Lots to like. Tremendous instincts.

[slick'81]

We need to keep this kid in the fold. Lots to like. Tremendous instincts.


his passing and ball handling are really good

[exstatic]

his passing and ball handling are really good

Kinda rudimentary, though, and predictable. He threw the same bounce pocket pass like 5 times in a row, and the last two got picked,and taken other way. He needs to mix it up a bit more.

[Mr. Body]

He has a lot of promise. We may see him back and forth throughout the season. G-League with some actual instruction will help expand his game.

[Chinook]

I wonder if we might see a scenario where Cissoko has to go back to his overseas team for part of the season and the Spurs bring in him later in the year. If the team still keeps some cap space, they could sign him to a Hinkie special at that time. Sidy gets even more money, since his former team would have to pay him; his overseas team gets a buyout while still getting Cissoko for what could be most of their season; the Spurs get to keep leverage over other teams who might want one of their expiring vets. I think it's unlikely that the Spurs keeps all those guys past camp, but if they're playing well it could happen. Like Sidy showed some things, I don't know if he showed enough for the Spurs to bypass a draft pick or two they could get from trading a vet later on. That's not even taking into account one of those guys might end up helping on the court.

[spursparker9]

Some of his passes are Jokicesque

[Ariel]

I wonder if we might see a scenario where Cissoko has to go back to his overseas team for part of the season and the Spurs bring in him later in the year. If the team still keeps some cap space, they could sign him to a Hinkie special at that time. Sidy gets even more money, since his former team would have to pay him; his overseas team gets a buyout while still getting Cissoko for what could be most of their season; the Spurs get to keep leverage over other teams who might want one of their expiring vets. I think it's unlikely that the Spurs keeps all those guys past camp, but if they're playing well it could happen. Like Sidy showed some things, I don't know if he showed enough for the Spurs to bypass a draft pick or two they could get from trading a vet later on. That's not even taking into account one of those guys might end up helping on the court.
Baskonia's GM already said he was getting a deal with 2 guaranteed years and paying the buyout.

[RC_Drunkford]

talk about high IQ player. Literally the only thing he's missing is a consistent jumper. Steal

[Chinook]

Baskonia's GM already said he was getting a deal with 2 guaranteed years and paying the buyout.

The fact that it's a two-year deal sort of lends credence to the idea it may not happen until well into the season. The reason being is that the Spurs can and honestly should ask for a three- or four-year deal with little guaranteed money if they are paying a buyout and everything. A two-year deal is way more player friendly than Cissoko has warranted -- unless the Spurs have no intention of signing him with cap space. Both the min exception and room exceptions only allow for two-year deals, but they can both be used after the start of the season. I do think it's more likely than not he'll be on the Spurs for camp. But looking at their roster crunch, it may be something they're working out.

[spursparker9]

talk about high IQ player. Literally the only thing he's missing is a consistent jumper. Steal

Let's hire back Chip England and we will have the real Diaw 2.0. (Slow mo was never Diaw 2.0)

[Ariel]

The fact that it's a two-year deal sort of lends credence to the idea it may not happen until well into the season. The reason being is that the Spurs can and honestly should ask for a three- or four-year deal with little guaranteed money if they are paying a buyout and everything. A two-year deal is way more player friendly than Cissoko has warranted -- unless the Spurs have no intention of signing him with cap space. Both the min exception and room exceptions only allow for two-year deals, but they can both be used after the start of the season. I do think it's more likely than not he'll be on the Spurs for camp. But looking at their roster crunch, it may be something they're working out.
To be honest the wording he used is also compatible with a longer contract with only the first 2 years being guaranteed.

[Atl Spur]

Fuck it! Play him at point guard and leave him there the whole year. His handle and passing is better than any recent point guard prospect we’ve had. His defense will be “A” ok.

I love this board…..

[Atl Spur]

You never learn Miss Cleo

And this guy is the gift who keeps giving…….. page 10! You make me smile on a busy Monday:)

[Atl Spur]

Sidy will end up being a decent to good shooter at minimum….book it! The kid is untapped.

Good thing his coach just basically said the same thing……..

[GAustex]

And this guy is the gift who keeps giving…….. page 10! You make me smile on a busy Monday:)

I like the kid but he ain’t no PG. great pick. Spurs should have picked ur boy Primo in the third round

[Atl Spur]

People going over board because he hit two shots.

Sidy is not a PG.

He still sucks

Rascal being rascal

[Atl Spur]

I like the kid but he ain’t no PG. great pick. Spurs should have picked ur boy Primo in the third round

If he pulls his dick out we’re in that Primo boat whether you like him or not………. You jump from meat to meat so I never know where you sit on the matter ( dudes stand btw ). Back to not fooling with you, I don’t like cornballs.

[GAustex]

If he pulls his dick out we’re in that Primo boat whether you like him or not………. You jump from meat to meat so I never know where you sit on the matter ( dudes stand btw ). Back to not fooling with you, I don’t like cornballs.

You are too stupid to even realize I just busted a nut on your bitch ass face

[BacktoBasics]

You are too stupid to even realize I just busted a nut on your bitch ass face

I thought intolerant racist bigots like you hated the gays but here you are musing over the thought of jizzing on a dudes face.

[Atl Spur]

You are too stupid to even realize I just busted a nut on your bitch ass face

Don’t be mad…….go back and read your post:) All the words and point of views are yours:) Just trying to help you moving forward sport. Son, I can peel you like an orange….now go to your room and NO tablet for you today! Lol

[BacktoBasics]

Don’t be mad…….go back and read your post:) All the words and point of views are yours:) Just trying to help you moving forward sport. Son, I can peel you like an orange….now go to your room and NO tablet for you today! Lol

If you really want to punish him cancel his Andrew Tate subscription.

[Atl Spur]

If you really want to punish him cancel his Andrew Tate subscription.

Lol! He’s miserable enough…. I’ll leave him to his own devices.

[Ariel]

is he as fast as luka?
Did you really make that comparison? Is he the shooter Luka is? Or scorer overall? Or talent Luka is? Would he open up the same opportunities for his teammates? Good luck making Sidy your full time lead guard in 2023.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

You could see Cissoko's positive evolution throughout the SL. I like the pick at 44. Good job by the FO. :tu

[Spurs Homer]

Did you really make that comparison? Is he the shooter Luka is? Or scorer overall? Or talent Luka is? Would he open up the same opportunities for his teammates? Good luck making Sidy your full time lead guard in 2023.

you disqualified him due to a lack of speed

so is he slower than luka?

[Ocotillo]

Let's hire back Chip England and we will have the real Diaw 2.0. (Slow mo was never Diaw 2.0)

I was going to post that if the new shooting coach can fix his shot, we will be saying Chip Who?

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/paulgarcianba/status/1681144156930842630?s=46&t=SruoshPxBN1Th5Jk_Axizg

it is possible for him to sign a two way after all

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/paulgarcianba/status/1681144156930842630?s=46&t=SruoshPxBN1Th5Jk_Axizg

it is possible for him to sign a two way after all
:wow

Cissoko and Barlow on 2-ways would be amazing. Can always convert them to real deals later. But alleviates the need to make subpar moves just to get within roster limit

[Ariel]

https://twitter.com/paulgarcianba/status/1681144156930842630?s=46&t=SruoshPxBN1Th5Jk_Axizg

it is possible for him to sign a two way after all
This is inconsistent with the statements from Baskonia's GM about his buyout and the guaranteed years, but who knows. We'll see.

[Ariel]

:wow

Cissoko and Barlow on 2-ways would be amazing. Can always convert them to real deals later. But alleviates the need to make subpar moves just to get within roster limit
Barlow deserves a long term contract. Worse prospects with no NBA experience have been getting 4 year deals, he should get a deal like Champagnie.

[Ariel]

https://baskonia.elcorreo.com/thompson-cissoko-bendicion-millon-medio-euros-baskonia-20230708004354-nt.html

Una vez acabe la competición estival el próximo lunes 17, se espera que Cissoko firme un contrato de dos años garantizados con la franquicia texana y entre los Spurs y el jugador abonen el casi un millón de dólares que estipula su compromiso con el Baskonia. Ese es el precio a pagar, según ha podido saber este periódico, por romper su vinculación con el club vitoriano y formar parte del equipo de Gregg Popovich tras ser escogido en el puesto 44 del Draft. De haber salido en primera ronda, la cifra habría aumentado. El Baskonia y el base galo rubricaron el verano pasado un acuerdo para salir cedido al Ignite y un "buyout" (cláusula de salida) acorde al habitual en los casos en los que la NBA atrae a jóvenes formados en Europa.
Sidy's buyout from Baskonia is almost 1M, which would have been higher had he been drafted in the first round.
https://www.noticiasdealava.eus/baskonia/2023/07/06/baskonia-confirma-interes-diop-salida-7014075.html

Félix Fernández, director deportivo del Baskonia, ha ofrecido las pinceladas del Baskonia 23-24 dejando grandes titulares[...]

Del francés Sidy Cissoko ha dicho que San Antonio le ha ofrecido un contrato de dos años garantizados, pagará su cláusula y dejará de pertenecer a la disciplina alavesa.
Felix Fernandez, Baskonia's GM said the Spurs offered Sidy a 2 year guaranteed deal (could also be consistent with more years only 2 being guaranteed) and a buyout will be paid.

[taps]

No stats to back this up but I was constantly nervous he was going to get stripped every time he dribbled toward the basket. The 1 youtube highlight I watched the night he was drafted said he was a decent ball handler but that didn’t seem to be the case in SL. Haven’t heard much focus on the dribbling just wondering if ppl noticed

[RC_Drunkford]

https://twitter.com/paulgarcianba/status/1681144156930842630?s=46&t=SruoshPxBN1Th5Jk_Axizg

it is possible for him to sign a two way after all

that‘s good and they should tbh. Need to flip some of these expirings at the deadline. That means only 1 player needs to get cut if Barlow and Cissoko sign 2-ways

[exstatic]

Barlow deserves a long term contract. Worse prospects with no NBA experience have been getting 4 year deals, he should get a deal like Champagnie.

Bassey was on a 2way last year until February, after the trade deadline. He deserved a regular contract, too, and in fact was on one when Philly waived him.

[CGD]

https://baskonia.elcorreo.com/thompson-cissoko-bendicion-millon-medio-euros-baskonia-20230708004354-nt.html

Sidy's buyout from Baskonia is almost 1M, which would have been higher had he been drafted in the first round.
https://www.noticiasdealava.eus/baskonia/2023/07/06/baskonia-confirma-interes-diop-salida-7014075.html


Felix Fernandez, Baskonia's GM said the Spurs offered Sidy a 2 year guaranteed deal (could also be consistent with more years only 2 being guaranteed) and a buyout will be paid.

Things change, I’m not reading too much into this. This reads like one of those soccer transfer window rumors that ends up being wrong.

The game changer is whether, in fact, he can be bought out and signed on two way.

[spurraider21]

Barlow deserves a long term contract. Worse prospects with no NBA experience have been getting 4 year deals, he should get a deal like Champagnie.
Crazy that nobody else offered him one

[Mr. Body]

Crazy that nobody else offered him one

They probably did, we don't know. He might have turned them down the way he turned teams down during the draft: he has a deal in place to stay, wants to stay, and is waiting to sign after the Spurs finish the summer's business.

[spurraider21]

They probably did, we don't know. He might have turned them down the way he turned teams down during the draft: he has a deal in place to stay, wants to stay, and is waiting to sign after the Spurs finish the summer's business.
Maybe

[Chinook]

https://twitter.com/paulgarcianba/status/1681144156930842630?s=46&t=SruoshPxBN1Th5Jk_Axizg

it is possible for him to sign a two way after all

I don't think this means what we would want it to. There's no issue signing Cissoko to a two-way ... provided he gets bought out. The issue is that the Spurs can't pay the buyout if he's signed to a two-way deal. If Sidy finds other means to get his buyout taken care of, then he can sign whatever deal in SA.

We know the d-league can accept players loaned out by other teams. Can the NBA? I didn't see anything forbidding it, but someone like Bruno would know more about that. It seems possible that he could get loaned out to the Toros. Maybe a player can get loaned out on a two-way? It's a weird situation.

[Bruno]

We know the d-league can accept players loaned out by other teams. Can the NBA? I didn't see anything forbidding it, but someone like Bruno would know more about that. It seems possible that he could get loaned out to the Toros. Maybe a player can get loaned out on a two-way? It's a weird situation.

In fact, Cissoko was never really loaned to the d-league. D-league and NBA don't accept loans. Cissoko signed the same kind of contract as other d-league ignite players.

NBA like all leagues respect FIBA rules for international trades.
Basketball players are linked to a country. When they want to play in another country, they must get a letter of clearance from the federation of their initial country. The federation checked with their previous team if they are free to go and then they become linked to their new country.

Last year, Cissoko's agents and Baskonia negotiated the he could leave them for a year to play in D-League and then come back with them at the end of the season. Before signing with the ignite team, Cissoko got a letter of clearance from the Spanish federation to become an US player. At the end of the D-league season he got a letter of clearance from the US basketball federation to be linked back with Spain. That's how it works.

One can imagine Cissoko's agents negotiating again with Baskonia to postpone the buyout by another year but that's highly unlikely.

And it wasn't possible for Cissoko to decide not to come back with Baskonia. FIBA has a tribunal in case players or teams don't respect their contracts.

[Bruno]

BTW, to me the situation is very simple:

- Spurs knew before drafting Cissoko his contractual situation and that a two way contract wasn't an option.

- Spurs have already offered Cissoko a true NBA contract and the money to pay his buyout.

- The only reason why he hasn't signed it yet is the same why Tre Jones hasn't signed his contract. It would have taken some cap space.

[Atl Spur]

BTW, to me the situation is very simple:

- Spurs knew before drafting Cissoko his contractual situation and that a two way contract wasn't an option.

- Spurs have already offered Cissoko a true NBA contract and the money to pay his buyout.

- The only reason why he hasn't signed it yet is the same why Tre Jones hasn't signed his contract. It would have taken some cap space.

Thanks for explaining! I appreciate the breakdown