'23 College Football season thread

[MultiTroll]

Washington is undefeated.

DK how the selection phucks are going to keep them out.

[DMX7]

Washington is undefeated.

DK how the selection phucks are going to keep them out.

They are locked in.

[Blake]

If Michigan loses and Bama wins that'll make things really interesting. Horns have no shot at playoffs for sure now after tonight

[MultiTroll]

If Michigan loses and Bama wins that'll make things really interesting. Horns have no shot at playoffs for sure now after tonight
I think the Horns will just have to deal with being left out if that occurs.

Bama wins FL St loses is going to create a cluster.

GA will claim they should get in of course.

[Blake]

I think the Horns will just have to deal with being left out if that occurs.

Bama wins FL St loses is going to create a cluster.

GA will claim they should get in of course.

A lot of teams will claim that

[Blake]

It's way too much to hope that a one loss horns team will play Tulane. Please Santa make this happen

[FrostKing]

50/50 chance Seminoles might lose tomorrow. It's the only major CCG not played in a Dome and the weather looks kinda rough. With everything else considered.

Final game of the day. Smallest ACCCG spread since 2009.

[playblair]

Why was Oregon leapfrogged over Texas and Bama after beating shitty USC?
the committee said oregon is ahead of texas & bama because of bo nix completion percentage..........


Corrigan said. “The season Bo Nix (https://www.on3.com/db/bo-nix-11186/) is having, 78% completion percentage. They just continue to impress the committee with the offense and the defense.”
Texas hasn’t quite left that same impression on the committee clearly, despite having a quality quarterback of its own in Quinn Ewers (https://www.on3.com/db/quinn-ewers-97493/).

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/QR5Cdh32v48?si=3TtiNNGmp78XpxrO

Rewatching. Benson (Oregon transfer) is one of my favorite Nole RBs of the 2010s+ Era

[playblair]

https://youtu.be/QR5Cdh32v48?si=3TtiNNGmp78XpxrO

Rewatching. Benson (Oregon transfer) is one of my favorite Nole RBs of the 2010s+ Era
ur fsu season is fools gold similar to tcu........ur team will come back to reality next season when all seniors & nil transfers are gone........

[Blake]

This game has all the markings of Okie St hanging around for a while before the horns blow the doors off.

The only chance for the cowboys is to successfully run the ball a lot to keep the Texas offense off the field

[playblair]

This game has all the markings of Okie St hanging around for a while before the horns blow the doors off.

The only chance for the cowboys is to successfully run the ball a lot to keep the Texas offense off the field
have more predictions :wtf...............28 7:lol .............everything runs through lubbock tech turrible in football & basketball :lol

[spankadelphia]

I think it’s safe to say Texas is in the final four. Congrats on your final Big 12 game.

[benefactor]

I think it’s safe to say Texas is in the final four. Congrats on your final Big 12 game.
:toast

[GAustex]

Nicely done UT
About time
Stepping it up the way it should be

[MultiTroll]

I think it’s safe to say Texas is in the final four. Congrats on your final Big 12 game.
LullVull beating FL State is a foregone conclusion to you?

[DMX7]

I think it’s safe to say Texas is in the final four. Congrats on your final Big 12 game.

No way, not yet. I still think Florida State has to lose tonight for a complete lock.

I also think it's dangerous for Alabama to win today because the committee might do something really stupid like say that both SEC division champs should stay ahead of Texas.

[MultiTroll]

No way, not yet. I still think Florida State has to lose tonight for a complete lock.

I also think it's dangerous for Alabama to win today because the committee might do something really stupid like say that both SEC division champs should stay ahead of Texas.
You Horns will be singing like SideShow Bob when he sang to Selma "Something Stupid".

Instead of the chorus line being "Something stupid like I love you."
it was
"Now i had to spoil it all saying Something stupid like I'll Kill You." :rollin

10-7 Bama

[MultiTroll]

Milroe is f-ing fast.

Don't know if he'll make it as an NFL QB but he sure as hell should make the roster otherwise.

[MultiTroll]

Horns we need Iowa to blow away Mich and thus Texas and Bama make it in.

[pgardn]

No way, not yet. I still think Florida State has to lose tonight for a complete lock.

I also think it's dangerous for Alabama to win today because the committee might do something really stupid like say that both SEC division champs should stay ahead of Texas.

The committee clearly said head to head counts after record.
Team A beats Team B. Team B beats Team C. Team A and Team C do NOT play.

Result: Team B and Team C go? This directly defies their own rules. It’s obvious.
If it comes down to a decision between one of three teams, Team A gets in. No other way.

The fireworks would be amazing.
And they will say 12 teams will fix this when they can’t even make and stick to rules for 4 teams…
In a sick way I kinda want to call the bluff and lay it bare. Give me fireworks in entertainment.

[Robz4000]

Texas will be left out tbh, even if FSU loses. Need Iowa to win somehow otherwise:

Michigan
Washington
Georgia/Bama
Ohio State

[Blake]

If Bama beats Georgia....

[pgardn]

Texas will be left out tbh, even if FSU loses. Need Iowa to win somehow otherwise:

Michigan
Washington
Georgia/Bama
Ohio State

Lol…

Ohio st gets in again by not getting in to the conference championship.
So say you must play a conf championship and then don’t count it.
Honestly.

No way OSU gets in. That’s the least likely outcome in all of this.
If OSU does get in, give ‘em a bye into the championship game. Let the other 3 teams play a round robin. OSU sits and plays the winner. That would be fun.

[playblair]

No way, not yet. I still think Florida State has to lose tonight for a complete lock.

I also think it's dangerous for Alabama to win today because the committee might do something really stupid like say that both SEC division champs should stay ahead of Texas.
it the committee does that it signals out of conference matchups dont matter......... texas should immediately cancel the michigan & ohio st games & replace them with uab & fiu..............

[Blake]

have more predictions :wtf...............28 7:lol .............everything runs through lubbock tech turrible in football & basketball :lol

When I said it it was early in the first quarter. I was off by a few minutes? You got me

[benefactor]

Texas will be left out tbh, even if FSU loses. Need Iowa to win somehow otherwise:

Michigan
Washington
Georgia/Bama
Ohio State
Nah. OSU isn't getting in over Texas. Georgia would get in before OSU would

[Blake]

I think it’s safe to say Texas is in the final four. Congrats on your final Big 12 game.

:lol they're rooting for SMU to beat Tulane tbh

[Blake]

Nah. OSU isn't getting in over Texas. Georgia would get in before OSU would

Yeah, there's literally no way two big ten teams get in. Two SEC teams tho.... it's almost a tradition

[benefactor]

Yeah, there's literally no way two big ten teams get in. Two SEC teams tho.... it's almost a tradition
Exactly. They will freeze Texas out if Florida State and Georgia both lose

[pgardn]

Yeah, there's literally no way two big ten teams get in. Two SEC teams tho.... it's almost a tradition

Uhhhh….

Two big 10 teams got in last year. Not 2 SEC teams….
OSU by sitting out the conference championship.
But the rules have changed.

Best records power 5; then head to head.
If they don’t follow their own rules… chaos. But the college internets boards will blow up.
Cant wait.

[benefactor]

:lol reviewing this play

[Blake]

Seriously, if Bama wins wtf are they going to do? Keep Georgia out? Keep Bama out? I can totally see them squeezing both in

[benefactor]

Seriously, if Bama wins wtf are they going to do? Keep Georgia out? Keep Bama out? I can totally see them squeezing both in
It all comes down to Florida state. If they win there's nothing to discuss. If they lose it becomes a shit show

[Blake]

Uhhhh….

Two big 10 teams got in last year.
OSU by sitting out the conference championship.
But the rules have changed.

Best records power 5 then head to head.
If they don’t follow their own rules… chaos. But the college internets boards will blow up.
Cant wait.

Yeah two big ten schools got in because other than the top 4 everyone else had two losses. This year there's a bunch of one loss teams

[benefactor]

But then the question remains, how do you keep Texas out over Alabama when they won the head-to-head?

[Robz4000]

But then the question remains, how do you keep Texas out over Alabama when they won the head-to-head?

Because muh SEC

[pgardn]

Yeah two big ten schools got in because other than the top 4 everyone else had two losses. This year there's a bunch of one loss teams

So what? The committee also said you must play conf championships.
Are you saying records count?
The committee agrees with you.
And you then say head to head does not count?
The committee does NOT agree with you.

Cant wait…LETS see what they do.

[pgardn]

There are still a heck of a lot of W/L combinations I would love to see.
This would be one.

FL ST. Loses to L ville
Bama lucks into beating Georgia in a crazy game
Washington beats Oregon.
Mich beats Iowa.
UT beats Ok St.

It would be hilarious to see the Committee have to decide between Alabama, Georgia, UT, Michigan (in for sure) and Washington (in for sure.)

If the Committee followed their own rules UT must get in before Bama. But Bama would have just beaten last year’s champ, Georgia.
So it would be, by the Committee rules:

Michigan
Washington
UT
Alabama

But this is essentially replacing Georgia with UT? What???? A Georgia that got unlucky?

I would love to see this actually occur. I could see a sudden rule change; Georgia in with Alabama.

So many more possibilities.
Ohio St. getting in AGAIN despite not playing in a conference championship would also be so telling.
(So whytf do we play these conf championship games again when they mean what?) ohhhhh $
It’s so cool when it comes down to who is most popular via Viewers and not rules of athletics. (Which are already unfair anyway. Because $).

Already gave this scenario a week ago.

[benefactor]

:lol Bama ref

[pgardn]

I love college football.

Wild West on acid.

[J.T.]

I love college football.

Wild West on acid.

I once predicted Colt McCoy would throw a 91 yard touchdown on 1st down while watching a Longhorns game on acid

[Blake]

It all comes down to Florida state. If they win there's nothing to discuss. If they lose it becomes a shit show

I think if Bama goes ahead and wins this and Michigan loses it's also a cluster fuck

[Blake]

But then the question remains, how do you keep Texas out over Alabama when they won the head-to-head?

how do you keep Bama out if they win tonight.

It's like asking if God can make a wall he can't break through.

[Blake]

Like watching a heavyweight fight

[benefactor]

Game over.

[Blake]

Speaking of heavy weight, if Georgia allows all girls of shapes and sizes on their pom pom squad, by all means their prerogative..... but you're a 250lb chick wearing a one piece bathing suit on national TV? Ok...

[Blake]

Game over.

I thought so too

[Robz4000]

Michigan
Washington
Florida State
Alabama

Calling it now.

[FrostKing]

ur fsu season is fools gold similar to tcu........ur team will come back to reality next season when all seniors & nil transfers are gone........
Maybe but hopefully we close the deal for Conference Title tonight

[Thread]

Speaking of heavy weight, if Georgia allows all girls of shapes and sizes on their pom pom squad, by all means their prerogative..... but you're a 250lb chick wearing a one piece bathing suit on national TV? Ok...

I know, but yet I still thought about it, Blake.

[Thread]

Michigan
Washington
Florida State
Alabama

Calling it now.

I thought Danielson and his buddy in the booth had died or lost money toward the last. They were livid! Played it pretty straight thru the first half, but panic stuck mid way thru the 3rd, and they started in on the injuries and what not. The after it was over they started in on the Selection Committee. First half, Alabama was in if they won today. 2nd half? "They don't deserve be in. In fact Georgia deserves to be in even if they lose."

Media, sports, or otherwise are nothing more than evil rat bastards.

[playblair]

Maybe but hopefully we close the deal for Conference Title tonight
if fsu is undefeated & gets left out of playoffs how soon would they leave the acc............

[playblair]

texas fans u r in...........u can not take alabama without taking texas.......either both get in or texas gets in over alabama.......

[MultiTroll]

If Tex and Bama both are out.....

There is your Bowl game matchup.

[pgardn]

Michigan
Washington
Florida State
Alabama

Calling it now.

Could be.

Let me try this out:

UT won the Big 12 AND beat the SEC champ.
Has any other team done the same this year?
You must replace Bama with UT.

And then I will give one for Florida St. and Michigan after the games. Just the way we order our words within sentences and ordering the sentences makes a difference.

For Georgia: They must be given a chance for 3 in a row. (I think this sux but I heard it)

[DMX7]

it the committee does that it signals out of conference matchups dont matter......... texas should immediately cancel the michigan & ohio st games & replace them with uab & fiu..............

That's the SEC way. Look at Georgia's non-conference schedule.

But now that I thought about it more, I think Georgia is out and behind us in the rankings now. The question is "where is Alabama?".

[Blake]

texas fans u r in...........u can not take alabama without taking texas.......either both get in or texas gets in over alabama.......

The "you can't take Bama without taking Texas" argument they just made on TV is retarded. Since winning the conference isn't a requirement, you absolutely can take Georgia over Texas.

[FrostKing]

if fsu is undefeated & gets left out of playoffs how soon would they leave the acc............
The buyout decreases every year but I don't think in the next 3 years atleast

[FrostKing]

It is the 3rd String True Freshman starting

:bobo

[DMX7]

The "you can't take Bama without taking Texas" argument they just made on TV is retarded. Since winning the conference isn't a requirement, you absolutely can take Georgia over Texas.

It's all subjective so the committee can do whatever it wants but it would be B.S. to take the team that lost to the team Texas beat in their building by double digits.

[FrostKing]

Louisville 6th Year Senior QB ��

[pgardn]

It's all subjective so the committee can do whatever it wants but it would be B.S. to take the team that lost to the team Texas beat in their building by double digits.

Actually they claim they are using algorithms with rules.
Record, conf winner, head to head…

Should be interesting to see if they actually write up the reasoning.

[Blake]

It's all subjective so the committee can do whatever it wants but it would be B.S. to take the team that lost to the team Texas beat in their building by double digits.

A lot of teams are gonna cry B.S. when this plays out

[DMX7]

Should be interesting to see if they actually write up the reasoning.

Is this a common practice? I mean they're going to have to explain themselves if they're going to take questions about it.

[pgardn]

Is this a common practice? I mean they're going to have to explain themselves if they're going to take questions about it.

If you saw the interview with committee chair Boo from South Carolina they can mumble a lot of nothing.
So I’m gonna say they will hide out and claim next year will be better because 12 are in. One thing I know they have diff opinions on within the committee is how SOS is determined. If SOS was very important Fl st. and Michigan might be in trouble.

[Robz4000]

God damn this FSU/Louisville game is a shitshow.

[FrostKing]

God damn this FSU/Louisville game is a shitshow.
Seminoles D is on fire :ihit

Gutsy drive here. Going wildcat and Glenn getting hammered on scrambles.

[benefactor]

God damn this FSU/Louisville game is a shitshow.
Uglier than Joey's mom with no makeup on

[pgardn]

Seminoles D is on fire :ihit

Gutsy drive here. Going wildcat and Glenn getting hammered on scrambles.

Intriguing game of field position.
Maybe a blizzard could make this watchable.

[benefactor]

:lol....this is tragic

[FrostKing]

Fk too nervous of a watch. 1 mistake from deciding the game for either team.

[benefactor]

Fk too nervous of a watch. 1 mistake from deciding the game for either team.
Even you have to admit that Florida State doesn't belong anywhere near the playoffs. They are going to get mauled by any one of the three teams that go there

[FrostKing]

Even you have to admit that Florida State doesn't belong anywhere near the playoffs. They are going to get mauled by any one of the three teams that go there
Right now we are probably #8 ahead of Missouri/Penn State

I'm not frightened of Michigan in 5 weeks if Tate returns.

[benefactor]

What exactly is pass interference these days?

[FrostKing]

What exactly is pass interference these days?
Penalty with the most back & forth makeup calls during the game

[FrostKing]

Big Play 'Noles

Championship response yet again

[FrostKing]

tOSU
Texas
Bama
Georgia

All fair cases

Texas would be the most neutral choice

[MultiTroll]

Well Texas and Bama,

Lullvull and Iowa offenses taking a huge steamer on us.

[MultiTroll]

What an idiotic play call by LullVull on 2nd and goal.
Some tricky mini reverse.

[Robz4000]

:lmao

[pgardn]

tOSU
Texas
Bama
Georgia

All fair cases

Texas would be the most neutral choice

OSU did not make their conference championship
They sat while the others played. Everyone of the other listed has 1 more game played and one more win.
Sitting should not be rewarded otherwise just stop with the conference championship games.

Which I think will be done next year.

[GAustex]

Big play can FSU hold them out

[GAustex]

FSU defense is stout

[MultiTroll]

Is LullVill offense throwing the game?
FFS the atrocious play calling.
Do they have something against the strong side of the field with 1st and 10 at the 13? Tried forcing 3 straight plays to the short side of the field.

[Robz4000]

Louisville has some of the worst playcalling I've ever seen. Just shows the state of the ACC that they can be in their championship game.

[benefactor]

This is some of the worst football I've ever watched in my entire life

[Obstructed_View]

I wondered why the committee dropped Florida State for losing their quarterback. Now we know. ESECPN is ready to strike. :lol

[MultiTroll]

Does do intentiional grounding when he had zero need to.

Next holds onto the ball in the endzone when the sitch screamed for a throwaway.

LullVull playcalling and the QB paid off? Serious Q.

[FrostKing]

I wondered why the committee dropped Florida State for losing their quarterback. Now we know. ESECPN is ready to strike. :lol
Haha we still defeated SEC team with backup

This True Freshman is overwhelmed by the moment. Backup would play in hypothetical playoff

[Obstructed_View]

Haha we still defeated SEC team with backup

This True Freshman is overwhelmed by the moment. Backup would play in hypothetical playoff
I'm with you. But the 'noles are getting fucked over for the SEC.

[Obstructed_View]

You can hear the ESPN announcers getting everybody ready for it.

[pgardn]

The punting, the play run most often in this game, is also horrendous.
So many mistakes and drops. QBs throwing passes directly into the “turf” to avoid interceptions.

[FrostKing]

You can hear the ESPN announcers getting everybody ready for it.
Ya I agree. The SECCG was a very good game but not instant classic like recent past. Down year for the Conference as a whole. The Auburn game was unreal luck.

I get it. It's almost package deal. Take 2 SEC or none. A smaller program with less historical success would almost certainly get shafted. TCU bittered the sport.

[Obstructed_View]

Woulda been nice to have that other field goal. Come on, D.

[Obstructed_View]

Ya I agree. The SECCG was a very good game but not instant classic like recent past. Down year for the Conference as a whole. The Auburn game was unreal luck.

I get it. It's almost package deal. Take 2 SEC or none. A smaller program with less historical success would almost certainly get shafted. TCU bittered the sport.
Oh yeah. Remember when they clutched their pearls about non-conference schedules. Now they'll fuck over UT for a team that lost to them if they have a chance.

[pgardn]

Tw of the following 4 teams are gonna feel really bad.

Fl st.
UT
Bama
Georgia

[Obstructed_View]

Tw of the following 4 teams are gonna feel really bad.

Fl st.
UT
Bama
Georgia
Bama and Georgia don't belong in the argument at all. If it were any other conference they wouldn't be.

[DMX7]

Louisville offense is just embarrassing.

[Obstructed_View]

Louisville offense is just embarrassing.
FSUs D is no slouch.

[pgardn]

Louisville offense is just embarrassing.

Their QB wants out of the game.

[playblair]

fsu does not deserve a playoff spot.........their wins came against teams with 4 + losses..........lsu/clemson/duke/miami/louisville/florida

[DMX7]

FSUs D is no slouch.

Agree but still...

Jack Plummer is 13/34, 98 YRDS, 2.9 AVG, 0 TD, 1 INT.

[benefactor]

Tw of the following 4 teams are gonna feel really bad.

Fl st.
UT
Bama
Georgia
Florida state is in. So is Washington and Michigan. So it's up to them to decide how much head-to-head matters between Alabama and Texas

[Obstructed_View]

Now is the time for the qb to keep it on that handoff play.

[DMX7]

Florida state is in. So is Washington and Michigan. So it's up to them to decide how much head-to-head matters between Alabama and Texas

Yeah, it's really hard to imagine that two 1-loss teams jump an undefeated Florida State even though they look unimpressive.

[benefactor]

Haha we still defeated SEC team with backup

This True Freshman is overwhelmed by the moment. Backup would play in hypothetical playoff
And Florida State would get their ass kicked with that backup playing

[Obstructed_View]

Florida state is in. So is Washington and Michigan. So it's up to them to decide how much head-to-head matters between Alabama and Texas
Disagree. Right now they're deciding whether to fuck an undefeated team or a team that beat Alabama. Since Tessatore has literally not shut up about it, my guess is they've already decided to fuck FSU.

I hope I'm wrong, but the tea leaves over the last several days look like a SEC team getting somebody's spot.

[pgardn]

Bama and Georgia don't belong in the argument at all. If it were any other conference they wouldn't be.

Paul Finebaum says if Alabama wins they must be in the playoffs.
That pretty much says UT must be put in imo.


So Paul has said you leave out an undefeated power 5 team who wins their conference?
And it’s not Washington or Michigan.

[Obstructed_View]

And Florida State would get their ass kicked with that backup playing
Which backup, the one who played tonight or the one who will play in the playoff?

[MultiTroll]

Yeah, it's really hard to imagine that two 1-loss teams jump an undefeated Florida State even though they look unimpressive.
There will be a 1 loss team in.
Don't have to jump FL State.

Only 3 unbeatens left.

Let the shit storm begin.

[benefactor]

Which backup, the one who played tonight or the one who will play in the playoff?
The one who will play in the playoff. He should be ready to go by the time the game happens.

[griffith]

How this years committee has been FSU is in eventhough its obvious they're not a top 4 team. At this point I say fuck it, let FSU in and have them be throttled by 50 in semis to show how bad 4 team format really was.

[Obstructed_View]

Paul Finebaum says if Alabama wins they must be in the playoffs.
That pretty much says UT must be put in imo.


So Paul has said you leave out an undefeated power 5 team who wins their conference?
And it’s not Washington or Michigan.

Well, if Finebaum says it...:lol

Finebaum is literally the mouthpiece for ESPNs SEC bias.

[Obstructed_View]

The one who will play in the playoff. He should be ready to go by the time the game happens.
I agree that he would play. I think the Noles are way better with him.

[benefactor]

Florida state has to be full strength to beat any of the other three teams. They won't be. Rodemaker is not Travis. Not even close.

[pgardn]

Also I think UT would consider it absolutely vital playing a top team out of conference and Alabama would say to hell with that stuff anymore. Even though Alabama got a gift from Auburn and UT maybe from KState and Houston. But FSU had a squeaker with Boston College and Georgia had some very close games as well but not as close as the aforementioned.

Very messy. But fun.

[DMX7]

1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Florida State
4. ?

[Obstructed_View]

How this years committee has been FSU is in eventhough its obvious they're not a top 4 team. At this point I say fuck it, let FSU in and have them be throttled by 50 in semis to show how bad 4 team format really was.
Doesn't matter. They did what they were supposed to do. Why don't the rules apply to SEC teams? Alabama lost. Alabama fucked over Georgia. Any other conference, everyone would say shit happens and move on. Not precious SEC because ESPN has a stake in propping the conference up.

[benefactor]

I agree that he would play. I think the Noles are way better with him.
But they aren't as good as Texas, Alabama, Washington and Michigan. Without Travis they can't beat any of those teams

[pgardn]

Well, if Finebaum says it...:lol

Finebaum is literally the mouthpiece for ESPNs SEC bias.

Thats why I love it. He is such an SEC lapdog. Even though they are the best conference imo.

[Obstructed_View]

1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Florida State
4. ?

Alabama is a lock. I don't think it's right. I hope I'm wrong, but it wouldn't be the most fucked up thing the committee has done.

[Obstructed_View]

But they aren't as good as Texas, Alabama, Washington and Michigan. Without Travis they can't beat any of those teams
Then Georgia should be there too. They just barely lost, and they would beat all the other teams.

[playblair]

the alliance voted to postpone the 12 team playoff until 2024.......whichever team misses out on the 4th spot should hold a grudge against big10/acc..........

[Obstructed_View]

Thats why I love it. He is such an SEC lapdog. Even though they are the best conference imo.
They are the best conference, which makes it so maddening that ESPN and the committee always has their finger on the scale in their favor.

[DMX7]

Also I think UT would consider it absolutely vital playing a top team out of conference and Alabama would say to hell with that stuff anymore. Even though Alabama got a gift from Auburn and UT maybe from KState and Houston. But FSU had a squeaker with Boston College and Georgia had some very close games as well but not as close as the aforementioned.

Very messy. But fun.

Yeah, keep in mind Auburn got crushed the week before... by New Mexico State... at home.

[griffith]

Doesn't matter. They did what they were supposed to do. Why don't the rules apply to SEC teams? Alabama lost. Alabama fucked over Georgia. Any other conference, everyone would say shit happens and move on. Not precious SEC because ESPN has a stake in propping the conference up.

I just don't think FSU from these recent past two games is not a top 4 team, you can't tell me this team right now without Travis can hang with Michigan, Washington, UT, and Bama. Game would not even be close. But like I said, with how this years committee has been, FSU is in due to them using "deserving" mindset and not "best".

[Obstructed_View]

Agree but still...

Jack Plummer is 13/34, 98 YRDS, 2.9 AVG, 0 TD, 1 INT.
With all due respect, FSUs D contributed to that line.

[Obstructed_View]

I just don't think FSU from these recent past two games is not a top 4 team, you can't tell me this team right now without Travis can hang with Michigan, Washington, UT, and Bama. Game would not even be close. But like I said, with how this years committee has been, FSU is in due to them using "deserving" mindset and not "best".
Then Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama and Georgia should be the teams. You'd fit right in with the committee.

[pgardn]

How this years committee has been FSU is in eventhough its obvious they're not a top 4 team. At this point I say fuck it, let FSU in and have them be throttled by 50 in semis to show how bad 4 team format really was.

You are more likely to have beatdowns the more teams you put in.
Even with byes.

[griffith]

Then Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama and Georgia should be the teams. You'd fit right in with the committee.

Not really, because I wouldn't have had Oregon and Ohio State in front of UT and Bama. Plus Georgia just lost my man.

[FrostKing]

Bobby Bowden
Jimbo Fisher

And now Mike Norvell

:lobt:


Norvell started 8-13. Missed bowl game first 2 seasons

Crazy thing is Taggart convinced Travis to transfer from Louisville...then didn't play him 😂 . Norvell turned him into the greatest statistical QB in program history

Seminoles football is back. Dabo's dominance is over.

Norvell beat LSU (x2), Clemson, Miami (x2) and Florida (x2) the past 2 seasons. Southern power.

https://i.postimg.cc/fy115cmT/Screenshot-20231202-205303-Chrome.png

[pgardn]

The two team system would have worked this year Imo.

Michigan v Washington

done, hand me the washcloth…

[pgardn]

Bobby Bowden
Jimbo Fisher

And now Mike Norvell

:lobt:


Norvell started 8-13. Missed bowl game first 2 seasons

Crazy thing is Taggart convinced Travis to transfer from Louisville...then didn't play him  . Norvell turned him into the greatest statistical QB in program history

Seminoles football is back. Dabo's dominance is over.

Norvell beat LSU (x2), Clemson, Miami (x2) and Florida (x2) the past 2 seasons. Southern power.

https://i.postimg.cc/fy115cmT/Screenshot-20231202-205303-Chrome.png

Florida Clemson and Miami?
The last two years? Just stick with LSU.
Please.

[Obstructed_View]

Not really, because I wouldn't have had Oregon and Ohio State in front of UT and Bama. Plus Georgia just lost my man.
But by your rationale, it's about who's the best, not who deserves it. So a one-loss Georgia team is better than everyone on the list. Hell, Georgia with two losses is better than undefeated FSU with an injured QB

Either FSU deserves it based on what happened, or Georgia deserves it because they're better and everyone knows it.

[MultiTroll]

But they aren't as good as Texas, Alabama, Washington and Michigan. Without Travis they can't beat any of those teams
One of the main Selection Committee members claims that they will be looking for the "best 4 teams in order, nothing else."


Then Georgia should be there too. They just barely lost, and they would beat all the other teams.
Kirby Smart, altho politicking take the message and not the messenger:
He said tell me which other 4 teams 4 are better then GA.
Well he sure as hell can't say Alabama.

[playblair]

Bobby Bowden
Jimbo Fisher

And now Mike Norvell

:lobt:


Norvell started 8-13. Missed bowl game first 2 seasons

Crazy thing is Taggart convinced Travis to transfer from Louisville...then didn't play him  . Norvell turned him into the greatest statistical QB in program history

Seminoles football is back. Dabo's dominance is over.

Norvell beat LSU (x2), Clemson, Miami (x2) and Florida (x2) the past 2 seasons. Southern power.

https://i.postimg.cc/fy115cmT/Screenshot-20231202-205303-Chrome.png

u & ur kind wanted mike fired after jackson state........

[Obstructed_View]

Bobby Bowden
Jimbo Fisher

And now Mike Norvell

:lobt:


Norvell started 8-13. Missed bowl game first 2 seasons

Crazy thing is Taggart convinced Travis to transfer from Louisville...then didn't play him �� . Norvell turned him into the greatest statistical QB in program history

Seminoles football is back. Dabo's dominance is over.

Norvell beat LSU (x2), Clemson, Miami (x2) and Florida (x2) the past 2 seasons. Southern power.

https://i.postimg.cc/fy115cmT/Screenshot-20231202-205303-Chrome.png


So glad Jimbo and his filthy program are gone. It'll be nice to root for the Noles again.

[DMX7]

There will be a 1 loss team in.
Don't have to jump FL State.

Only 3 unbeatens left.

Let the shit storm begin.

So my thinking may be way off here but if being undefeated outweighs (current) quality of play then Florida State has to be #3, ahead of Texas and Alabama. However, if we're saying the being undefeated doesn't outweigh quality of play, then how could only Texas or Alabama jump Florida State and not both teams jump Florida State. Because Texas and Alabama look way better and more balanced than Florida State right now, so either both teams jump Florida State or neither team does. This is obviously only my opinion. :lol


The two team system would have worked this year Imo.

Michigan v Washington

done, hand me the washcloth…

Totally Agree. It would be less heartache to be honest.

[FrostKing]

Florida Clemson and Miami?
The last two years? Just stick with LSU.
Please.
Rivalries games always difficult. Those Miami guys check out til they face us. 2 Gators were ejected last game they were willing to do anything to spoil our season.

I think we were only the 2nd team to win @ Clemson since 2016 season

[FrostKing]

So glad Jimbo and his filthy program are gone. It'll be nice to root for the Noles again.
:huddle:

[DMX7]

Rivalries games always difficult. Those Miami guys check out til they face us. 2 Gators were ejected last game they were willing to do anything to spoil our season.

I think we were only the 2nd team to win @ Clemson since 2016 season

If FSU QB is healthy they might be #1 TBH. Regardless, I have them in my top 4 like I said they should be if they won tonight (no matter how they looked).

[benefactor]

If we take all metrics into consideration, it will be Texas, FSU, Washington and Michigan...but I have a feeling it won't work out that way

[playblair]

If we take all metrics into consideration, it will be Texas, FSU, Washington and Michigan...but I have a feeling it won't work out that way
if it works out the way u think it will would u be ok with texas canceling the um/osu series...........

[griffith]

But by your rationale, it's about who's the best, not who deserves it. So a one-loss Georgia team is better than everyone on the list. Hell, Georgia with two losses is better than undefeated FSU with an injured QB

Either FSU deserves it based on what happened, or Georgia deserves it because they're better and everyone knows it.

I get why you're using Georgia for your argument to prove your point. But I've said numerous times, I think FSU is in I just don't think this current FSU team is better than Michigan, Washington, UT, and Bama. But I get what you're getting at and I appreciate the convo. This is why college football imo will always be better than NFL

[Obstructed_View]

So my thinking may be way off here but if being undefeated outweighs quality of play then Florida State has to be #3, ahead of Texas and Alabama. However, if we're saying the being undefeated doesn't outweigh quality of play, then how could only Texas or Alabama jump Florida State and not both teams jump Florida State. Because Texas and Alabama look way better and more balanced than Florida State right now, so either both teams jump Florida State or neither team does. This is obviously only my opinion. :lol



Totally Agree. It would be less heartache to be honest.
And by that rationale, Ohio State and Georgia jump FSU. Because late losses have to matter less than an injured quarterback.

[Obstructed_View]

I get why you're using Georgia for your argument to prove your point. But I've said numerous times, I think FSU is in I just don't think this current FSU team is better than Michigan, Washington, UT, and Bama. But I get what you're getting at and I appreciate the convo. This is why college football imo will always be better than NFL
And I don't think FSU getting blown out means the committee shouldn't have put them in. I appreciate the conversation as well, but I hate that they make it subjective, because that always gives them a chance to push, in order, the SEC, Ohio State/Michigan, Notre Dame, Texas/OU, the PAC 12 over everyone else. As with everything else, it's a huge scam and a money grab.

[GAustex]

IMHO
The two SEC teams are the 1 and 1A
Bama
U of G
Washington
UT
Michigan
And the rest
If FSU QB did not break leg they move above UT and Washington

[benefactor]

if it works out the way u think it will would u be ok with texas canceling the um/osu series...........
Texas won their conference and beat the SEC champion on their own field by double digits. All the other teams are undefeated. This is the kind of criteria the BCS claims to go by. I'm not saying they are the 4 best teams, but if we are sticking with the formula those are the teams that should get in

[Obstructed_View]

Yeah, keep in mind Auburn got crushed the week before... by New Mexico State... at home.
You said this and I had to go look it up. I thought you were joking. :lol

[FrostKing]

Pre BCS system


Orange: FSU vs Georgia/Bama
Rose: Michigan vs Texas
Sugar: tOSU vs Bama/Georgia
Fiesta: Oregon vs Notre Dame :lol

[DMX7]

Imagine how much more compelling it would be if Texas had beat OU today instead of OSU. Then you could argue the one loss was avenged.

Oh well, no point in dreaming or speculating anymore. We'll find out tomorrow. I think it's a 50-50 coin toss for who gets the final spot.

[Obstructed_View]

Texas won their conference and beat the SEC champion on their own field by double digits. All the other teams are undefeated. This is the kind of criteria the BCS claims to go by. I'm not saying they are the 4 best teams, but if we are sticking with the formula those are the teams that should get in
100 percent agree. That's why you can smell the smoke coming from their brains as they try to rationalize shoehorning Alabama in there. Then when the Tide win one or both games, they can act like it was a good decision.

[FrostKing]

Imagine how much more compelling it would be if Texas had beat OU today instead of OSU. Then you could argue the one loss was avenged.

Oh well, no point in dreaming or speculating anymore. We'll find out tomorrow. I think it's a 50-50 coin toss for who gets the final spot.
Ya I think Big10 is ditching divisions so moving forward more Michigan vs tOSU rematchea

Kinda ruins the Championship Week though

[pgardn]

SEC is dumping divisions 2024

[pgardn]

Imagine how much more compelling it would be if Texas had beat OU today instead of OSU. Then you could argue the one loss was avenged.

Oh well, no point in dreaming or speculating anymore. We'll find out tomorrow. I think it's a 50-50 coin toss for who gets the final spot.

Endzone call that went against OU v OSU was brutal.

Pass interference all day long against Stoops and they were looking at if Stoops caught the ball with some body part in.
While they kept going over the replay they just forgot about the fact that Stoops was tackled well before the ball got to him!
They can’t change that part of the play to a penalty but it was so clear when they had to run the replay over and over to determine Stoops caught the ball out of the end zone (which was super close; unlike the penalty never called which was in no doubt)

The OU people went nuts, thought they handed Gundy the last game against OU because Gundy had complained so bitterly about stopping the rivalry. Compare that to ATM who wanted nothing to do with us. Interesting. I’m glad we play them again. ATM takes losses so hard. They go into hiding. My favorite game.

[pgardn]

No way I want to skip the Michigan series coming up that playblair thinks we should do if not selected.
I look forward to playing these out of conference teams. It’s fun. Could ruin hopes of a National championship but it’s still too much fun, looking forward to it. Then Ohio State for two years. Good stuff. Bunch of good games next year. ATM. Georgia in Austin. Awesome!

[FrostKing]

No way I want to skip the Michigan series coming up that playblair thinks we should do if not selected.
I look forward to playing these out of conference teams. It’s fun. Could ruin hopes of a National championship but it’s still too much fun, looking forward to it. Then Ohio State for two years. Good stuff. Bunch of good games next year. ATM. Georgia in Austin. Awesome!
More Playoff teams encourages OOC games IMO because you get penalized for soft schedule.

[MultiTroll]

But they aren't as good as Texas, Alabama, Washington and Michigan. Without Travis they can't beat any of those teams


Then Georgia should be there too. They just barely lost, and they would beat all the other teams.


So my thinking may be way off here but if being undefeated outweighs (current) quality of play then Florida State has to be #3, ahead of Texas and Alabama. However, if we're saying the being undefeated doesn't outweigh quality of play, then how could only Texas or Alabama jump Florida State and not both teams jump Florida State. Because Texas and Alabama look way better and more balanced than Florida State right now, so either both teams jump Florida State or neither team does. This is obviously only my opinion. :lol.
I'm now on the Quality of Play outweighing record.
Prior to tonight i thought undefeated should be in, period.

After seeing how pathetic Louiseville was, i honestly think it might have been thrown. BTW can a dollar amount be put on how much a team will make as a Final Four vs playing in the Doritos and Lowes Hardware Bowl? Of course it depends on the other bowl etc. But basically how much more dough is it for schools making the CFP vs 5th on down?

Thrown or Louiseville just sucked, as others posted that was some of the most shit football they have seen.
For FSU to barely win, i deduct massive points.

[FrostKing]

I'm now on the Quality of Play outweighing record.
Prior to tonight i thought undefeated should be in, period.

After seeing how pathetic Louiseville was, i honestly think it might have been thrown. BTW can a dollar amount be put on how much a team will make as a Final Four vs playing in the Doritos and Lowes Hardware Bowl? Of course it depends on the other bowl etc. But basically how much more dough is it for schools making the CFP vs 5th on down?

Thrown or Louiseville just sucked, as others posted that was some of the most shit football they have seen.
For FSU to barely win, i deduct massive points.
Rankings play a big part in the process and there is Conference bias in rankings. Networks will pimp teams they air.

W-L has no bias

[Thread]

texas fans u r in...........u can not take alabama without taking texas.......either both get in or texas gets in over alabama.......

Sad, but plainly true. Cannot & will not dispute it.

I still believe they'll leave Alabama out after so many times including Alabama when there was a shadow upon that appointment. They've never hesitated once since they went to the (4) to include us. There is no need to cause an uproar now with a large expansion within sight. And that's what we get for that loss at home.

You'll get nary beef from me.

[Mark Celibate]

Texas should in IMO, and I just made up some simple math in my head to break the 3 way tie between UGA, Bama, and UT since I think their overall schedule is pretty similar.

In a case like this, OSU is out because the Big Ten was meh outside of Michigan. UT playing Alabama is huge obviously, because UT's resume would be worse than OSU by nature of not really beating anybody remarkable in the Big XII.

I think UT, Bama, and UGA all have similar strength of schedule's without autistically digging into the details. Since it's a three way tie, I think you compare each team's loss and their best win amongst each other. And compare the overall point differential between the W and L but I've added some extra scoring depending on if it was a home, away, or neutral game and depending on where the opponent finished in the ranking system. Best win meaning the best ranked team they played.

As for the scoring, you add or subtract points depending on where the game was played and who they played.

I) For venue, add or subtract 10 points depending on if it was a home or away game. So if your best win was on the road, take that point differential of the W and add 10...similarly subtract 10 if your loss was at home. No score added or subtracted if it was neutral

II) For opponent, if your best win was against a team in the Top 5...add 15 points
If your best win was against a team in the 5-10 range...add 10 points
If your worst loss was against a team in the Top 5...subtract 5 points
If your worst loss was against a team in the 5-10 range...subtract 10 points
If your worst loss was against a team ranked in the 10-25 range...subtract 15 points


Texas's score would be 25-19 = 11

Best win = 10 points for beating Bama by 10...add 10 more since it was on the road...add 10 more since Bama was ranked #8 at end of year = 30
Loss = -4 for loosing by 4 to OU...neutral game so nothing added/subtracted for venue....subtract 15 since OU finished #12 at the end of the year = -19

Alabama's score would be -12

Best win = 3 points for beating UGA by 3 ... neutral game so nothing added/subtracted for venue...add 15 more since UGA was ranked #1 at end of the year = 18
Loss = -10 for losing to Texas at home...subtract 10 more since it was a loss at home....subtract 10 more since Texas was ranked #7 at the end of the year = -30

Georgia's score would be -4

Best win = 9 points for beating Missouri by 9...subtract 10 because of home field advantage...add 10 because Missouri was ranked #9 at end of the year = 9
Loss = -3 for losing to Bama by 3...neutral game so nothing added/subtracted for venue...subtract 10 more since Bama was ranked #8 at end of the year = -13

By my scoring system, Texas is in by a pretty decent margin. Even if you made the argument that Bama/UGA/UT are all really Top 5 ranked teams after yesterday, which is fair, UT still comes out ahead by the same margin. The "Alabama was not the same team by end of the year" is just subjective with no real way to quantify so I consider it invalid. We don't select the "hottest" teams, just overall body of work

debate me, fagg0ts

[Mark Celibate]

f*ck, didn't realize that post was gonna be so long...now it looks extremely autistic. Still, think it's a good system though tbh imho

[playblair]

FrostKing (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=51741) & his fsu fanbase need to leave the little league acc immediately.........

1731365552931938541

[griffith]

I'm surprised, didn't think they would do it. Also great to see Texas vs Washington, another opportunity to avenge a loss from last year.

[GAustex]

Is Michigan really that good?

[Obstructed_View]

f*ck, didn't realize that post was gonna be so long...now it looks extremely autistic. Still, think it's a good system though tbh imho
Also, none of it matters because they planned on fucking over FSU when they had Washington jump them a couple of weeks ago.

In this whole thing, I really feel for Georgia and their fan base. They must be devastated.

[Obstructed_View]

Is Michigan really that good?
Are they ever? OSU and Michigan are the UT/OU of the north. They get the benefit of the doubt.

[FrostKing]

I'm not surprised but I also think today ruined the sport in many people's eyes

Committee basically went super Bama. Put them in and let's Reward Texas for dominating them

[FrostKing]

RIP

"Just win and get in"

[GAustex]

Are they ever? OSU and Michigan are the UT/OU of the north. They get the benefit of the doubt.
Far enough but this year getting Bama put them in

I have Georgia better than Michigan
Big 10 is not all that like ACC

[GAustex]

Tough break the FSU QB getting hurt

[pgardn]

Is Michigan really that good?

Imo UT matches up better against Michigan than against Washington.
UT secondary is vulnerable, especially safeties. UT run D is awesome. Pennix can pick UT apart.

Next season playoff decisions could possibly even wilder as the committee clearly favors the SEC this year.
One power 5 conference is destroyed and another weakened as well.

[GAustex]

Favoring the SEC is deserved IMO

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/SxYnC4R/Screenshot-20231203-101120-Chrome.png

[Obstructed_View]

Far enough but this year getting Bama put them in

I have Georgia better than Michigan
Big 10 is not all that like ACC
Georgia is better then UT and Alabama too. But they tell you it's about what they do on the field. If it was any other non-OU big 12 team instead of Texas they would definitely not have gotten in.

[FrostKing]

Favoring the SEC is deserved IMO
It's good for the viewers and TV ratings but bad for the legitimacy of the sport

A 1-loss Bama team will never be left out. They have 1 Undefeated season since 2010

[Obstructed_View]

Tough break the FSU QB getting hurt
Yeah. Alabama was undefeated and didn't make the playoff when Tua got hurt. ;)

[Obstructed_View]

Favoring the SEC is deserved IMO
They should just go ahead and announce that you need two fewer losses than a SEC team if you aren't Michigan or Ohio State.

[monosylab1k]

RIP

"Just win and get in"

:lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ0Sxr2gvV8

[playblair]

texas fans u r in...........u can not take alabama without taking texas.......either both get in or texas gets in over alabama.......


The "you can't take Bama without taking Texas" argument they just made on TV is retarded. Since winning the conference isn't a requirement, you absolutely can take Georgia over Texas.

:reading:wakeup

[FrostKing]

:lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ0Sxr2gvV8
Neither of us are winning the title this season

And we beat you last time we played. FSU will always be better than Michigan in football.

[pgardn]

Georgia is better than UT and Alabama too. But they tell you it's about what they do on the field. If it was any other non-OU big 12 team instead of Texas they would definitely not have gotten in.

I don’t agree with this. UGs all world TE being injured was a big problem for them.
And the UG defense is definitely not as good as prior years. Alabama beat them, it’s not like it was luck.

[pgardn]

Neither of us are winning the title this season

And we beat you last time we played. FSU will always be better than Michigan in football.

Always be?

Michigan has been around forever. Michigan has more wins and a higher win percentage than FL St will ever have.
It’s not even close.

[pgardn]

:lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ0Sxr2gvV8

Hey you were an Arkansas fan? What happened?

[FrostKing]

Always be?

Michigan has been around forever. Michigan has more wins and a higher win percentage than FL St will ever have.
It’s not even close.
I know. Wolverines are arguably the greatest waster of talent in CFB History

[DMX7]

So my thinking may be way off here but if being undefeated outweighs (current) quality of play then Florida State has to be #3, ahead of Texas and Alabama. However, if we're saying the being undefeated doesn't outweigh quality of play, then how could only Texas or Alabama jump Florida State and not both teams jump Florida State. Because Texas and Alabama look way better and more balanced than Florida State right now, so either both teams jump Florida State or neither team does. This is obviously only my opinion. :lol

I knew this logic was a possibility but am still surprised the committee went with it.

Honestly, I would have had Florida State at #3 and Texas at #4. (you can't deny the win against Alabama on their turf, Period.)

[FrostKing]

^ Committee is talking from both sides of their mouth. FSU should be #3 or #6

They went in the room, locked the door and said we have to get a SEC team in the Playoff. Now how do we move every other piece around to minimize the outrage.

Hardcore CFB fans noted how ESPN started pushing the "this is a different Bama team" after the LSU game. The writing was on the wall, they had to create a backup plan for IF Georgia lost the SECCG

I'm not surprised or mad. Most long time fans of the sport figured this is how it would play out. "Atleast next year it's expanding" is how programs like Clemson justify it.

[FrostKing]

Spoiler alert: bunch of FSU players will skip the bowl game resulting in a loss

Bama will beat Michigan

And everyone will return to being satisfied

[Biggems]

Common opponent was Texas Tech which is suppose to count.
I think destroying Colorado (and the myth getting crushed) also counted (not supposed to)
Really I think it comes down to Oregon absolutely destroying opponents with UT just getting by. This is not supposed to be a factor under the committee criteria but it seems most reasonable to me. Lots of stuff could still happen that makes all this hand wringing moot. But its still fun.

Oregon barely beat TT. UT absolutely curbstomped the Lubbock trash.

[pgardn]

Next item of interest:

All that has been written about the playoffs will be used as justification AFTER the games are played.

Example if the playoffs are close and exciting very competitive games:

See! I told you FSU did not belong. Look how great the games were!
This is an argument that makes me ill. This site excels at this bs.
Or even if FSU gets beat in a bowl game. See they did not deserve!

That’s not the point, the process is being questioned. The above does NOT make the process valid.
And I am saying this knowing we are more likely to see good games with Fl st. left out.

[MultiTroll]

Damn shame FSUs QB got injured.

Just as big ashamed was Louisville throwing the game and making FSU look not as good.

[Thread]

This should be a cake walk for Alabama now.

Hail Mary was full of grace once & again.

[Biggems]

Do not forget, that the starting S for Texas will miss the 1st half against Washington because of the targeting call in the Big 12 Championship game.

I am absolutely stoked right now. We beat Baylor, KSU, Houston, TT, TCU, and finished off OSU. We also beat Bama in Bama....the only two negatives was losing to OU after being ahead with 90 seconds left in the game and losing Brooks for the year.
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Now we get Washington. We can not only advance to the Championship game for the first time since 2009, but we can also get revenge for the Alamo Bowl loss to the Huskies.

[Biggems]

Damn shame FSUs QB got injured.

Just as big ashamed was Louisville throwing the game and making FSU look not as good.

6th year starting QB and he played worse than a freshman. He was absolutely horrible. Yes, the FSU defense was outstanding, but his decision making was as if that night was the first time he picked up a football. At least the FSU QB had a legitimate excuse for his poor play.

Where was Lamar Jackson or Teddy Bridgewater when they needed them?

[Obstructed_View]

I knew this logic was a possibility but am still surprised the committee went with it.

Honestly, I would have had Florida State at #3 and Texas at #4. (you can't deny the win against Alabama on their turf, Period.)
Baylor fans will tell you that the committee will overlook head to head wins if it puts a favorite team in the playoff. The point is that the committee will deny whatever helps them meet their ends.

[Mark Celibate]

Also, none of it matters because they planned on fucking over FSU when they had Washington jump them a couple of weeks ago.

In this whole thing, I really feel for Georgia and their fan base. They must be devastated.

I don’t think it was “planned” to f*ck them over. UGA loses by 3 and fell completely out of the top four so I don’t think they really take into account how far one falls whenever there’s a logjam at the top.

I kind of assumed they’d get it in by being an undefeated P5 team but given the circumstances I understand the decision

[pgardn]

Do not forget, that the starting S for Texas will miss the 1st half against Washington because of the targeting call in the Big 12 Championship game.

I am absolutely stoked right now. We beat Baylor, KSU, Houston, TT, TCU, and finished off OSU. We also beat Bama in Bama....the only two negatives was losing to OU after being ahead with 90 seconds left in the game and losing Brooks for the year.
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Now we get Washington. We can not only advance to the Championship game for the first time since 2009, but we can also get revenge for the Alamo Bowl loss to the Huskies.

UT has the opportunity to request Derrick Williams (the true FR safety) sit out the first half in the first game of the 2024 schedule.
We need that guy to play immediately against Washington. He is by far the most athletic, fastest safety we have. That position is THE biggest weakness on our entire team Imo. By far. Only thing Williams lacks is experience. Dude can make plays the others can’t touch.
Huge recruiting get away from LSU. Sarkattack!

[Obstructed_View]

^ Committee is talking from both sides of their mouth. FSU should be #3 or #6

They went in the room, locked the door and said we have to get a SEC team in the Playoff. Now how do we move every other piece around to minimize the outrage.

Hardcore CFB fans noted how ESPN started pushing the "this is a different Bama team" after the LSU game. The writing was on the wall, they had to create a backup plan for IF Georgia lost the SECCG

I'm not surprised or mad. Most long time fans of the sport figured this is how it would play out. "Atleast next year it's expanding" is how programs like Clemson justify it.
They moved FSU down for seemingly no reason a couple of weeks ago. ESPN then ran several headline articles of prominent people saying that it would be an injustice not to have an SEC team in the playoff. Someone in this thread did a "Well Finebaum says Alabama is the best", when that's literally what that little twat is paid to say.

I'm sure there were a lot of prominent people saying that it would be an injustice not to have an undefeated P5 conference champ in the playoff, but nobody from ESPN submitted the story.

Someone was getting fucked.

[pgardn]

I don’t think it was “planned” to f*ck them over. UGA loses by 3 and fell completely out of the top four so I don’t think they really take into account how far one falls whenever there’s a logjam at the top.

I kind of assumed they’d get it in by being an undefeated P5 team but given the circumstances I understand the decision

There absolutely was a logjam at the top. Very good point. So yes you expect a big fall. It happens more frequently in the first part of the season but little attention is paid to it.

Plus Georgia got to a point in the 2nd half where Alabama stopped the run and Alabama receivers started defeating Georgia 2ndary. Sabin 4 for 4 against Georgia in conf championship. That hurts.

[Obstructed_View]

I don’t think it was “planned” to f*ck them over. UGA loses by 3 and fell completely out of the top four so I don’t think they really take into account how far one falls whenever there’s a logjam at the top.

I kind of assumed they’d get it in by being an undefeated P5 team but given the circumstances I understand the decision
And I apologize for posting basically the same thought twice. ADD and old age combine and it's a bitch.

If Georgia won, it wouldn't have been an issue. This was a contingency plan in case Alabama won. I think I said this too, but if it were anyone other than UT, who beat Alabama H2H, you'd see Alabama at 3 and Georgia fall to 4 today.

[DMX7]

UT has the opportunity to request Derrick Williams (the true FR safety) sit out the first half in the first game of the 2024 schedule.
We need that guy to play immediately against Washington. He is by far the most athletic, fastest safety we have. That position is THE biggest weakness on our entire team Imo. By far. Only thing Williams lacks is experience. Dude can make plays the others can’t touch.
Huge recruiting get away from LSU. Sarkattack!

That 2023 class was freaking loaded.

[pgardn]

They moved FSU down for seemingly no reason a couple of weeks ago. ESPN then ran several headline articles of prominent people saying that it would be an injustice not to have an SEC team in the playoff. Someone in this thread did a "Well Finebaum says Alabama is the best", when that's literally what that little twat is paid to say.

I'm sure there were a lot of prominent people saying that it would be an injustice not to have an undefeated P5 conference champ in the playoff, but nobody from ESPN submitted the story.

Someone was getting fucked.

Finebaum pull is amazing.

He counsels southern lunatics on that call in show and then pontificates. He is extremely well spoken, which is deadly.
I just don’t get how Finebaum can counsel these lunatic calls he accepts when the “patients” don’t understand half of what he is saying. He actually ends up having a bit of fun.
I guess because he remains as calm and soothing as Nurse Ratchet.

The first time I heard this he was counseling some drunk guy over the phone line not to beat his wife because she is an Auburn fan.

[pgardn]

That 2023 class was freaking loaded.

The Oline on the 2022 class was a best ever haul. Sark and the Dline coach are working with Herman recruits on the D line.
Bo (Dline coach) got Coburn AND Ojomo drafted. Now Sweat and Murphy assessed at 1st round, 2nd to 3rd round respectively(Herman guys) It’s been a very long time.

This 2024 class is very good with 3 top decisions awaiting. We might start losing some top assistants. Our Oline and Dline coaches got to get paid. Bigly. The depth of talent and number of guys coached up to NFL level is Earlier Mack Brown level. And going beyond. The SEC schedule along with Michigan should hurt our chances next year. But year 2 in the SEC could be really good. It’s been a long wait and not done. Sark staying on… NFL jobs are easier, he knows this. Lots to consider. Sark gonna get his extension but even so… Sark is barely top 25 coaching salary right now.

[Obstructed_View]

I know. Wolverines are arguably the greatest waster of talent in CFB History
University of Texas has entered the chat.

[DMX7]

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[pgardn]

University of Texas has entered the chat.

Yes.

All the great players from UT at the most important position on the field, QB.
It escapes me now…

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Finebaum pull is amazing.

He counsels southern lunatics on that call in show and then pontificates. He is extremely well spoken, which is deadly.
I just don’t get how Finebaum can counsel these lunatic calls he accepts when the “patients” don’t understand half of what he is saying. He actually ends up having a bit of fun.
I guess because he remains as calm and soothing as Nurse Ratchet.

The first time I heard this he was counseling some drunk guy over the phone line not to beat his wife because she is an Auburn fan.

He's like that cocksucker Hussein, who comes out during election cycles with that other ass-hat Oprah and keeps the 95% Black Block from nary fraying. The cocksuckers.

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Yes.

All the great players from UT at the most important position on the field, QB.
It escapes me now…
Great players are made. Great talent is wasted. UT has signed seventeen top-10 quarterbacks since 2000. Texas has a top recruiting class seemingly every year and almost never has results to match.

[Obstructed_View]

He's like that cocksucker Hussein, who comes out during election cycles with that other ass-hat Oprah and keeps the 95% Black Block from nary fraying. The cocksuckers.
Uhhh...time for your pill?

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Uhhh...time for your pill?

peeg granted me an opening and I ain't passin' something like that up, ever. It's my religion.

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Great players are made. Great talent is wasted. UT has signed seventeen top-10 quarterbacks since 2000. Texas has a top recruiting class seemingly every year and almost never has results to match.

Royal did okay way back there.

[GAustex]

Great players are made. Great talent is wasted. UT has signed seventeen top-10 quarterbacks since 2000. Texas has a top recruiting class seemingly every year and almost never has results to match.

[GAustex]

Vince Young was a pretty good college QB. His best play was to drop back to pretend to pass and then Run Vince Run

[Blake]

Lol leaving an undefeated P5 team out and putting in Texas is retarded. There's no way around it.

[playblair]

Lol leaving an undefeated P5 team out and putting in Texas is retarded. There's no way around it.
ur hatred for texas has ur ire aimed at the wrong school little little brother..........fsu was left out for alabama...........

[playblair]

Great players are made. Great talent is wasted. UT has signed seventeen top-10 quarterbacks since 2000. Texas has a top recruiting class seemingly every year and almost never has results to match.

those rankings are done by camp performances not game performances............every coach pre sarkisian post mack recruited based on star rankings.........sarkisian recruited based on evaluation..........

[JamStone]

Michigan isn’t that great this year. I think college football in general is down this season. No truly dominant teams, lots of good teams, some really good teams. Maybe the transfer portal has allowed for more parity among the P5 programs. But despite the record and another win against Ohio State, I haven’t felt like Michigan has been that great. Felt better about them last year.

Michigan’s problem for a long time stemmed from the pre BCS / CFP era lingering attitude that winning the Big Ten and beating Ohio State was all that mattered. Schembechler was notoriously bad in bowl games. That attitude along with a nearly two decade run of losing to the Buckeyes kept them from looking big picture or adjusting their approach to include competing with national powerhouses like Bama and Georgia and Clemson. So it felt like just making the college football playoffs was the actual goal, not actually competing and winning it. With how college football is evolving and that they finally feel comfortable with the Ohio State rivalry, they need to actually compete in the playoffs to put themselves back in the national conversation. They’ve been national pretenders for some 25 years.

[monosylab1k]

Neither of us are winning the title this season

And we beat you last time we played. FSU will always be better than Michigan in football.

:lmao cry more

[Blake]

ur hatred for texas has ur ire aimed at the wrong school little little brother..........fsu was left out for alabama...........

Even Georgia has a better argument to be in than Texas. But that's fine, Bama getting in over Fla St is retarded too.This reeks of TV execs and ratings.

[Obstructed_View]

Vince Young was a pretty good college QB. His best play was to drop back to pretend to pass and then Run Vince Run
He was the number 1 player, not just QB in the nation. If he'd been called for his knee being down we would be talking about what a disappointment he was too.

[Obstructed_View]

Even Georgia has a better argument to be in than Texas. But that's fine, Bama getting in over Fla St is retarded too.This reeks of TV execs and ratings.
If UT and OU weren't going to the SEC next year, I think it would have been Michigan, UDub, Alabama and Georgia. Texas would probably be surprised at how close they actually came to getting snubbed. Did I mention how much ESPN loves the SEC? :lol

[MultiTroll]

FL State is gonna get a chance to show Georgia.

[benefactor]

FL State is gonna get a chance to show Georgia.
27-6 Georgia

[Blake]

FL State is gonna get a chance to show Georgia.

Then what? They have a shiny exhibition game trophy to show for it

[MultiTroll]

Then what? They have a shiny exhibition game trophy to show for it
Meh GA might not be that motivated for the game, who knows.

[Blake]

Meh GA might not be that motivated for the game, who knows.

Neither is Florida St. Both teams will have a number of players sitting to get ready for the draft

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Vince Young was a pretty good college QB. His best play was to drop back to pretend to pass and then Run Vince Run

Good remembrance. Made my evening, GA.

[MultiTroll]

Neither is Florida St. Both teams will have a number of players sitting to get ready for the draft
Agree 100.

And if, repeat if GA racks up points on FLA St in no way should that be spun as seeeeee FL ST sucks.

That original starting QB changes everything for the FL ST defense. As in keeps them off the field wayy more then this freshman dude can be expected to. Or is it going to be the 2nd stringer?

[pgardn]

Great players are made. Great talent is wasted. UT has signed seventeen top-10 quarterbacks since 2000. Texas has a top recruiting class seemingly every year and almost never has results to match.

This is only partially true.

UT has not had top recruiting classes on a NATIONAL level .
And when they did it was a couple of 5 stars surrounded by mediocre line players. They had good recruiting classes compared to the big 12, but not the same level of depth throughout. Since Sark this has changed, ESPECIALLY with the Oline and Dline.

Answers for QBs they could win with because of surrounding top players around the top QB

Vince Young and Colt McCoy (not near the star due to 3A hs)
Results: in the National Title games twice. And the last NC

Also way back the surrounding talent was so good they could win the NC with James Street, a baseball player, at QB.
UT underwhelming OL and DL for at least 13 years.very mediocre to bad on a national level. Things have now shifted.

So the real reason Imo is thinking they could win with skill players without OL and DL commitments (which people don’t bother looking at.) Mack started this crap thinking all he needed was skill and then Colt McCoys little brother Case (noodle arm) for nepotisms sake. Herman just loaded up on WR, crap like that happened. You can get away with it in the big 12 syndrome. Same thing got Oklahoma beat in numerous CFP playoff games with HEISMAN QBs. 3 of them!

Sorry for the disingenuous nature of my purposely labeling QB.
Takes more than a QB.

For UT fans incoming 2024 Collin Simmons DE#1 Brandon Baker LT #2. Daniel Cruz IOL 4* but will be the best center by far

And a bunch of good lineman developing from top 5 classes in 2022 and 2023. This IS the difference Imo. Oh and throw Manning in for the future. Best we have looked since 2009. Maybe with some lack of injury luck it will pay off.

[pgardn]

Neither is Florida St. Both teams will have a number of players sitting to get ready for the draft

Another + argument for the 12 team playoff. These guys won’t be sitting if there is a chance for the NC.

[pgardn]

Uhhh...time for your pill?

Best block worn tread.
He follows me around waving pictures of Donald Trump’s naughty bits painted red, white and blue so I ignore everything he posts.

[Obstructed_View]

This is only partially true.

UT has not had top recruiting classes on a NATIONAL level.

Only been in the top ten nationally about fifteen times since 2000. Probably more top fives than the rest of the big 12 combined. Notice there are no multi page threads in here about Baylor or OU recruiting every year.

[FrostKing]

Agree 100.

And if, repeat if GA racks up points on FLA St in no way should that be spun as seeeeee FL ST sucks.

That original starting QB changes everything for the FL ST defense. As in keeps them off the field wayy more then this freshman dude can be expected to. Or is it going to be the 2nd stringer?
Rodermaker will start. He's a Junior so likely starting next season.

Although he won at the Swamp and led FSU back @ Louisville last season; at this moment Norvell must be on the phone with a possible transfer for 2024. Ya he has a cannon of an Arm but his progression in the pocket was disappointing.

Glenn the true freshman looked way overmatched for the moment :lol

[FrostKing]

6th year starting QB and he played worse than a freshman. He was absolutely horrible. Yes, the FSU defense was outstanding, but his decision making was as if that night was the first time he picked up a football. At least the FSU QB had a legitimate excuse for his poor play.

Where was Lamar Jackson or Teddy Bridgewater when they needed them?
He just walked straight into the locker room after the final whistle. Brutal.

He probably woke up that morning full of hope it would be a crowning moment for the program and his last shot at ball after school. Hurt to see reflecting back on the game.

[HemisfairArena]

#1. Georgia should be in the final 4,,,,they are 29-1 in their last 30 games and won 2 nationals and the only game they lost was saturday night by only 3 points. If you put them on a neutral field right now against any of the 4 teams that made the playoff including Alabama,,,,Georgia would be favored,,,so how do you leave them out if youre looking for the best 4 teams in the nation?

#2. So with that in mind,,,,the committee put FSU above Georgia in the final rankings,,,,are you fuckin' kiddin' me? If you have FSU above Georgia and they just went 13-0 and won their conference,,,how the fuck do you leave them out of the final 4? FSU got the biggest hose job in college football history.

[GAustex]

Michigan is way over rated

[FrostKing]

#1. Georgia should be in the final 4,,,,they are 29-1 in their last 30 games and won 2 nationals and the only game they lost was saturday night by only 3 points. If you put them on a neutral field right now against any of the 4 teams that made the playoff including Alabama,,,,Georgia would be favored,,,so how do you leave them out if youre looking for the best 4 teams in the nation?

#2. So with that in mind,,,,the committee put FSU above Georgia in the final rankings,,,,are you fuckin' kiddin' me? If you have FSU above Georgia and they just went 13-0 and won their conference,,,how the fuck do you leave them out of the final 4? FSU got the biggest hose job in college football history.
Haha ya doesn't make sense. Committee talking thru both sides of their mouth

FSU is #3 or #6. Depending which criteria you use


The joke is FSU got hosed and now plays the best team in the country for nothing

[FrostKing]

Michigan is way over rated
Michigan #1
tOSU #7

Doesn't add up. 1 possession game at their field


Washington looks most forgotten

[HemisfairArena]

Haha ya doesn't make sense. Committee talking thru both sides of their mouth

FSU is #3 or #6. Depending which criteria you use


The joke is FSU got hosed and now plays the best team in the country for nothing


this committee is just beyond fucked with this decision,,,,,I can keep going to prove they are wrong,,,,just like FSU beat LSU by a larger margin than Alabama beat LSU,,,,but yet they still take the 1 loss Alabama over the undefeated FSU,,,,crazy shit,,,,I dont care about players getting hurt. Hell,,,,the Eagles starting QB got hurt and they had to use Nick Foles, a journeyman, and they went to the Super Bowl and beat Tom fuckin' Brady(the GOAT) and the Patriots,,,,

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Best block worn tread.
He follows me around waving pictures of Donald Trump’s naughty bits painted red, white and blue so I ignore everything he posts.

Oh, please. When the fellows are sleepin' late of a night, early of a mornin' you seek out old Dale & kibbutz with me. In the downtime twixt kibbutz'in' you look up fine points of grammar to impress me & yourself. tee, hee.

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Michigan is way over rated

I pray you're right.

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Another + argument for the 12 team playoff. These guys won’t be sitting if there is a chance for the NC.

The old participation trophy fiend has finally won out. The (4) was permitted to exist longer than I ever expected.

But it is over. Over-over. media "wins" again. The fucks.

[pgardn]

Only been in the top ten nationally about fifteen times since 2000. Probably more top fives than the rest of the big 12 combined. Notice there are no multi page threads in here about Baylor or OU recruiting every year.

OU recruiting matches UT every year.
And they have had stable coaching every year until recently. Unlike UT
You will also notice OU did not get anywhere on a National level with 3 Heisman QBs. Only Alabama can match that. So what has Bama done in the playoffs compared to OU? Its not comparable.
OU has also been recruiting FOR the Big 12. They have also turned this around by shifting recruiting to OL and DL now.

And now Kudos for the Big 12. The Big 12 is a very difficult conference to prepare for gamewise because of extraordinarily creative offensive coaching. Guys like Gundy realized they did not had the number of athletes UT and OU get so he did some of the most impressive scheming on offense. Guys like Campbell and ISU did some of the most impressive defensive scheming because of all the difficult passing schemes you face every week. Almost all of the most innovative passing schemes had their trials in the Big 12 and succeeded. The basic idea was get your athletes as good as the other team in space. there is a whole book written about this. The big 12 has had by far the most innovative schemes many of which filtered into the NFl. If you want a list of the coaches, its enormous. Most people remember Leach. He is not the only one. This is one reason for me it is sad to leave. The absolutely wild unpredictable games. That UT would often lose.

The reason UT has multiple pages is TFloss and because UT is one of the most popular teams in college football. Very much like the Dallas Cowboys. Great history, done nothing recently. Also when the big name recruiting teams all go after the same 2-3 star player his rating magically changes by the recruiting ranking sites. Some of these guys are clearly developmental choices, not what they have done on a HS football field. Especially in places like the DL. A DT kid rarely comes in from HS and kills it when he has not trained in a college weight room at 17 or 18 years old. UT has a strategy now of looking for big guys, not highly rated in football, who are multiple sports athletes. Especially basketball because they often have superior footwork. UT is not alone in this.

I know this is disjointed but thanks for the discussion opportunity. Working break.

[pgardn]

this committee is just beyond fucked with this decision,,,,,I can keep going to prove they are wrong,,,,just like FSU beat LSU by a larger margin than Alabama beat LSU,,,,but yet they still take the 1 loss Alabama over the undefeated FSU,,,,crazy shit,,,,I dont care about players getting hurt. Hell,,,,the Eagles starting QB got hurt and they had to use Nick Foles, a journeyman, and they went to the Super Bowl and beat Tom fuckin' Brady(the GOAT) and the Patriots,,,,

So YOU now interject common opponent and how much a team beats them by? While griping about the committee which I agree did the wrong thing.
Thats every bit as bad as the committee. One team might have a common opponent they slaughter but put in the 3rd team so the score does not get horribly disfigured.
Figures for you. Go away.
And if you seriously think FSUs third team QB is the same caliber as a 3rd string NFL qb... stop. Journey men NFL ers can be great for a game. Problem is teams eventually figure them out after multiple games. But they are still critical to get you by a game or two in the NFL. Maybe more if they can run a very different offense.

[pgardn]

OSU kyle mcCord enters transfer portal (holy shit one year for a young QB, he loses to Michigan and gone)
Dillion Gabriel OU enters portal. Making room for their backup who is supposedly really good. (Thank god for UT, Gabriel killed us this year)

[FrostKing]

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[Spurs Homer]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/12/04/florida-state-college-football-playoff-selection-rigged/71802654007/


lol

[GAustex]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/12/04/florida-state-college-football-playoff-selection-rigged/71802654007/


lol
Lol

[J.T.]

Man, Big Sports Media is really doubling down on the gaslighting today. Every show is making sure to tell me it only matters how you're playing at the time the playoff picks are made and how Bama's QB is actually the best QB in the country.

Somebody got bribed and I hope this ends up being one of those sports scandals that brings a house of cards down on someone. Probably gets swept under the rug with 12 team playoff starting next year though.