'23 College Football season thread

[MultiTroll]

^^ Bama just ended GAs 29 game win streak.

FL ST barely getting past Louiseville with their QB......you wanna talk about paid off?

FOH.

[J.T.]

^^ Bama just ended GAs 29 game win streak.

FL ST barely getting past Louiseville with their QB......you wanna talk about paid off?

FOH.

FSU got robbed you candy ass faggot

[Mark Celibate]

Man, Big Sports Media is really doubling down on the gaslighting today. Every show is making sure to tell me it only matters how you're playing at the time the playoff picks are made and how Bama's QB is actually the best QB in the country.

Somebody got bribed and I hope this ends up being one of those sports scandals that brings a house of cards down on someone. Probably gets swept under the rug with 12 team playoff starting next year though.

these guys just need to come up with a hard, quantifiable algorithm that takes everything into account and let it be known to the public how it works. Kind of like my back of the envelope math I came up with yesterday in 5 minutes. That way there's no debate. This whole committee voting and "eye test" crap is just going to keep making them look like a$$es. It's 2023 and the US has shifted from a "high trust" to a "low trust" society post COVID. Everything is always going to be turned into a conspiracy, this subjective voting needs to stop

[MultiTroll]

FSU got robbed you candy ass faggot
Watch the FSU Louiseville game you Projecting Penis Chaser.

Buy a clue.

[Blake]

these guys just need to come up with a hard, quantifiable algorithm that takes everything into account and let it be known to the public how it works. Kind of like my back of the envelope math I came up with yesterday in 5 minutes. That way there's no debate. This whole committee voting and "eye test" crap is just going to keep making them look like a$$es. It's 2023 and the US has shifted from a "high trust" to a "low trust" society post COVID. Everything is always going to be turned into a conspiracy, this subjective voting needs to stop

Lol how is it that every other sports including high school and lower level college have the playoffs figured out but these university brainiacs just wing it

[Blake]

Watch the FSU Louiseville game you Projecting Penis Chaser.

Buy a clue.

They're undefeated. That's all there is to it

[MultiTroll]

They're undefeated. That's all there is to it
So they are.

Not one of the best 4 teams.

Deal with it.

[Biggems]

Whether we deserve it or not, I could care less. All I care about is 14 years of horseshit waiting for this moment to arise again. We are in and we get another crack at Washington after last year. If we win, we get another crack at the Natty.....

HOOK EM HORNS

[Blake]

So they are.

Not one of the best 4 teams.

Deal with it.

You think the best four teams are really in?

[Obstructed_View]

these guys just need to come up with a hard, quantifiable algorithm that takes everything into account and let it be known to the public how it works. Kind of like my back of the envelope math I came up with yesterday in 5 minutes. That way there's no debate. This whole committee voting and "eye test" crap is just going to keep making them look like a$$es. It's 2023 and the US has shifted from a "high trust" to a "low trust" society post COVID. Everything is always going to be turned into a conspiracy, this subjective voting needs to stop
Here is the algorithm: Alabama>SEC>Ohio State>Michigan>Texas>Oklahoma>everyone else. When there is a choice, that's how they roll. I'm certain they considered dropping Georgia to 4.

They have turned the word conspiracy into a joke so you won't notice the groups of people who conspire against you in every aspect of your life.

[MultiTroll]

You think the best four teams are really in?
GA is one of the best 4.

FSU then >>>>>>> FSU now.
FSU is no longer one of the best 4. Not even close.

[FrostKing]

GA is one of the best 4.

FSU then >>>>>>> FSU now.
FSU is no longer one of the best 4. Not even close.
Wrong

My proof: 13-0

[MultiTroll]

Wrong

My proof: 13-0
Miami Jr High School should be in.

Proof?
13-0.

The CFP committee prez said exactly why they chose Bama and not FSU.
Whether one agrees or not. Made perfect sense to me.

[GAustex]

Bad luck the kid broke his leg
GA is one of the top four
I think Mich is over rated
But I can see why some say UT is overhyped too

[MultiTroll]

At least in future years with 12 teams, while of course some team will continue to get F'd, any team that was legitimately close to the best 4 will be easily in.

[FrostKing]

There was going to be a SEC team in the Playoff no matter the results of games that day :lol

[lebomb]

I just saw the Heisman candidates...............

Michael Penix Jr. will win it.

[playblair]

fsu here is ur chance to leave acc & join superleague provided u r not poor..........

1732050518040515006

[benefactor]

I've been going over this in my head since everything was announced and I'm convinced there really was no good solution. Florida state is undefeated and they deserve to be in. Georgia is definitely a top four team in the nation. UT beat Alabama and they deserve to be in. The other undefeated teams deserve to be in. The good thing is we get 12 teams next year and we won't have to deal with this again hopefully.

[Blake]

I've been going over this in my head since everything was announced and I'm convinced there really was no good solution. Florida state is undefeated and they deserve to be in. Georgia is definitely a top four team in the nation. UT beat Alabama and they deserve to be in. The other undefeated teams deserve to be in. The good thing is we get 12 teams next year and we won't have to deal with this again hopefully.


I think the one team that has the least argument might be Georgia since they didn't win the conference, just like Ohio State.

Should have been

1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Florida State
4. Bama

IMO

[lebomb]

I think the one team that has the least argument might be Georgia since they didn't win the conference, just like Ohio State.

Should have been

1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Florida State
4. Bama

IMO


I don't see how you could keep Texas out since they beat Alabama at home and by a decent margin. Alabama never loses at home.

[pgardn]

Lol how is it that every other sports including high school and lower level college have the playoffs figured out but these university brainiacs just wing it

HS football playoffs in Texas can be a total joke. Valley View high, record 3-8, got into the playoffs with a runner up 2-3 record in district. Then got beat in a tournament 1st round like 43-0. The tournament (playoff) cant even fit on a reasonable sized computer screen. And the number of tournaments based on school size has progressively grown. The aforementioned team was a 5A division II team with 64 teams. 5A ALSO had a division I tournament with 64 teams. There are 12 different tournaments. This is the NCAA basketball tournament on steroids where teams with a horrible season get in. Then follow the complaints about all the Dallas and Houston teams getting put in their own quarter of the tournament while South and central West Texas get their own quarter and never win. There are gripes about all playoff systems.

Imo when the regular season becomes inconsequential and playoff teams can sit players after they have clinched it further cheapens the regular season. Teams sit players giving their opponents an easier path.

Its a mess. My personal opinion is that a regular season loss in college football should be devastating. When UT lost to OU I thought thats basically it. No conf championship, and definitely no dream of CFP this early with a clearly better football team. Im not gonna stop watching though. Personal taste I guess. I dont want CF to be like the other ridiculously large tournaments.

[Mark Celibate]

I think the one team that has the least argument might be Georgia since they didn't win the conference, just like Ohio State.

Should have been

1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Florida State
4. Bama

IMO

Ya, I don’t see the argument to have UGA in since they lacked any signature win. Their best win was a 9 pt home win against Missouri

#1 ranking is meaningless when you have a logjam at the top. They were just #1 by default since they were the defending champions but that should have no bearing on this season.

[Blake]

I don't see how you could keep Texas out since they beat Alabama at home and by a decent margin. Alabama never loses at home.

I'm not gonna keep 3 undefeated teams out so it's between Bama and Texas. Bama beat the #1 team in the country in their conference title game. Texas beat Bama early in the season.

[playblair]

I think the one team that has the least argument might be Georgia since they didn't win the conference, just like Ohio State.

Should have been

1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Florida State
4. Bama

IMO
little little brother i know ur soul is deteriorating minute by minute that texas has eternal scoreboard on ur poverty institution.........u cant have bama without texas........texas beat bama by double digits on the road

[FrostKing]

Ya, I don’t see the argument to have UGA in since they lacked any signature win. Their best win was a 9 pt home win against Missouri

#1 ranking is meaningless when you have a logjam at the top. They were just #1 by default since they were the defending champions but that should have no bearing on this season.
The current poll rankings are an extension from previous seasons/success. The foundation is: SEC is best and then everything based off that.

If Georgia was overrated then who did Bama even defeat this season? They lost their signature game of the season.

Committee is trying to fool us into believing Bama was the final team chosen for the Playoff. Wrong. There was absolutely no scenario that SEC would be left out. Texas went to bed that night hoping to sneak in and woke up #3.

Most people are accepting the results because A) expansion next season and B) we are promised superior 1st Round games on TV

IMO Bama better win or else the SEC was a shame and Ohio State got shafted.

[Blake]

little little brother i know ur soul is deteriorating minute by minute that texas has eternal scoreboard on ur poverty institution.........u cant have bama without texas........texas beat bama by double digits on the road

u CANt haVe TexAs wiTouT Ou

[pgardn]

Best solution this year was a two team playoff.

Michigan v. Washington

But it had to be four and it got more difficult.
So now 12 will solve it all....

This year I think an 8 slot system might have also been decent.
And get an earlier start instead of waiting a month.

Michigan
Washington
Fl St.
UT
Alabama
Georgia
Ohio St.

Michigan or UW gets a bye.

Or leave out ohio st. out and give Michigan and UW byes.

[Blake]

Honestly, if you want to put in UT ahead of Bama, I can see the logic enough to let it go.

But Florida St? Lolneh they got unforgivably screwed

[Blake]

Best solution this year was a two team playoff.

Michigan v. Washington

But it had to be four and it got more difficult.
So now 12 will solve it all....

This year I think an 8 team system might have also been decent.
And get an earlier start instead of waiting a month.

Michigan
Washington
Fl St.
UT
Alabama
Georgia
Ohio St.

Michigan or UW gets a bye.

Florida St would still rightfully complain about being screwed

[Mark Celibate]

The current poll rankings are an extension from previous seasons/success. The foundation is: SEC is best and then everything based off that.

If Georgia was overrated then who did Bama even defeat this season? They lost their signature game of the season.

Committee is trying to fool us into believing Bama was the final team chosen for the Playoff. Wrong. There was absolutely no scenario that SEC would be left out. Texas went to bed that night hoping to sneak in and woke up #3.

Most people are accepting the results because A) expansion next season and B) we are promised superior 1st Round games on TV

IMO Bama better win or else the SEC was a shame and Ohio State got shafted.

Georgia still was undefeated to that point in a P5 conference defeating a handful of ranked teams so they’re a Top 5 team. Still a signature win by Bama. I’m just making that point to counter those who say “you can’t drop Georgia all the way from 1 to outside the top four after a three point loss!”. When you have multiple undefeated teams with similar schedules they’re all just 1a , 1b, 1c, and 1d IMO.

for the record, I still think FSU should have gotten in by being a P5 undefeated alone. And then you have a three way tie between UT, Bama, and UGA and you pick UT for reasons I mentioned a few pages back.

[pgardn]

Florida St would still rightfully complain about being screwed

Maybe.
But they could prove it wrong on the field.
They cant even do that this year.

If you think Fl St. would get screwed by being ranked lower than UM and UW and miss a bye just wait till the 12 team system begins.
Outrage every year.

[pgardn]

Georgia still was undefeated to that point in a P5 conference defeating a handful of ranked teams so they’re a Top 5 team. Still a signature win by Bama. I’m just making that point to counter those who say “you can’t drop Georgia all the way from 1 to outside the top four after a three point loss!”. When you have multiple undefeated teams with similar schedules they’re all just 1a , 1b, 1c, and 1d IMO.

for the record, I still think FSU should have gotten in by being a P5 undefeated alone. And then you have a three way tie between UT, Bama, and UGA and you pick UT for reasons I mentioned a few pages back.

Deciding between UT, Bama, and Georgia is easy.
Unless you decide head to head means nothing.

UT is the most objective outcome Unless head to head means zero.

[benefactor]

Georgia still was undefeated to that point in a P5 conference defeating a handful of ranked teams so they’re a Top 5 team. Still a signature win by Bama. I’m just making that point to counter those who say “you can’t drop Georgia all the way from 1 to outside the top four after a three point loss!”. When you have multiple undefeated teams with similar schedules they’re all just 1a , 1b, 1c, and 1d IMO.

for the record, I still think FSU should have gotten in by being a P5 undefeated alone. And then you have a three way tie between UT, Bama, and UGA and you pick UT for reasons I mentioned a few pages back.
:tu

[benefactor]

Georgia lost their championship game. Winning streak and number one ranking and of that doesn't matter when it comes to that. Are they better than a couple of the teams that are in there? Probably. But they didn't win when it counts and so they are out. Florida State won all of their games so they should be in. Yes, they will likely get their ass kicked. But they are still undefeated. Similar to Georgia losing their conference championship game, you cannot get in if you lose by double digits to an opponent at home going head to head with you in the decision-making process. In a way, Florida State and Texas are similar. You can't discount the undefeated schedule and you can't discount the head-to-head win. Both matter and both should be in

[Blake]

Maybe.
But they could prove it wrong on the field.
They cant even do that this year.

If you think Fl St. would get screwed by being ranked lower than UM and UW and miss a bye just wait till the 12 team system begins.
Outrage every year.

How would they prove it wrong on the field any more with a two team playoff vs four? The players will sit out for draft just the same

[Mark Celibate]

Georgia lost their championship game. Winning streak and number one ranking and of that doesn't matter when it comes to that. Are they better than a couple of the teams that are in there? Probably. But they didn't win when it counts and so they are out. Florida State won all of their games so they should be in. Yes, they will likely get their ass kicked. But they are still undefeated. Similar to Georgia losing their conference championship game, you cannot get in if you lose by double digits to an opponent at home going head to head with you in the decision-making process. In a way, Florida State and Texas are similar. You can't discount the undefeated schedule and you can't discount the head-to-head win. Both matter and both should be in

Agreed… I think P5 Undefeated should be an automatic assuming you don’t have undefeateds from all five conference. You have to reward teams for winning at the end of the day. They should never have a team with more losses leapfrog because they “look better”. Taking the “hotter team” just sets a bad precedent and opens up a huge can of worms

[playblair]

u CANt haVe TexAs wiTouT Ou
stop being obtuse.......ou is not a conference champion.......

[Blake]

stop being obtuse.......ou is not a conference champion.......

That's not a rule

[pgardn]

How would they prove it wrong on the field any more with a two team playoff vs four? The players will sit out for draft just the same

Look at my quote again.
I said 8 could have worked for them and 12 certainly would.

[pgardn]

Best solution this year was a two team playoff.

Michigan v. Washington

But it had to be four and it got more difficult.
So now 12 will solve it all....

This year I think an 8 slot system might have also been decent.
And get an earlier start instead of waiting a month.

Michigan
Washington
Fl St.
UT
Alabama
Georgia
Ohio St.

Michigan or UW gets a bye.

Or leave out ohio st. out and give Michigan and UW byes.

[JamStone]

I've been going over this in my head since everything was announced and I'm convinced there really was no good solution. Florida state is undefeated and they deserve to be in. Georgia is definitely a top four team in the nation. UT beat Alabama and they deserve to be in. The other undefeated teams deserve to be in. The good thing is we get 12 teams next year and we won't have to deal with this again hopefully.

When they announced it Sunday, I was good with the decisions. After reading and listening to a lot of the arguments for each team, I now lean towards the idea that Florida State should have been in, probably over Alabama.

The whole idea that the Travis injury was the biggest deciding factor potentially opens up a big can of worms. So, for instance, if Milroe gets injured in practice next week and won’t be ready for the playoffs, wouldn’t that make Bama not worthy of its playoff spot? So should the committee reconvene and replace Bama with Georgia? Football is a physical sport. Injuries happen. The actual resume of the actual games played should have carried the most weight.

The subjective “eye test” making the final call really does make the whole thing feel biased and shitty.


I’m still against the 12 team playoff. For a log time, the whole point of not having a playoff was bc of the number of games it added on to the players’ bodies. The 12 team playoff means a team could play up to 17 games in the season. A full NFL regular season. Even a 6 or 8 team playoff means up to 16 games. Feels like getting a more universally accepted national champion is more important than the health and safety of the student athletes.

[benefactor]

When they announced it Sunday, I was good with the decisions. After reading and listening to a lot of the arguments for each team, I now lean towards the idea that Florida State should have been in, probably over Alabama.

The whole idea that the Travis injury was the biggest deciding factor potentially opens up a big can of worms. So, for instance, if Milroe gets injured in practice next week and won’t be ready for the playoffs, wouldn’t that make Bama not worthy of its playoff spot? So should the committee reconvene and replace Bama with Georgia? Football is a physical sport. Injuries happen. The actual resume of the actual games played should have carried the most weight.

The subjective “eye test” making the final call really does make the whole thing feel biased and shitty.


I’m still against the 12 team playoff. For a log time, the whole point of not having a playoff was bc of the number of games it added on to the players’ bodies. The 12 team playoff means a team could play up to 17 games in the season. A full NFL regular season. Even a 6 or 8 team playoff means up to 16 games. Feels like getting a more universally accepted national champion is more important than the health and safety of the student athletes.
But the students want the issue settled just as much as anyone else. And it's been proven the 4 team playoff does not work. So what's the answer? We can't go back to deciding it via the associated press. I think at the very least it needs to be an 8 team playoff. This year has shown that four teams will never really work because you can easily get in the situations we are in right now. The kids want to play the games and want a champion decided as much as the public does. Let them play them

[JamStone]

I don’t disagree that the players want to play, and pretty much all college football fans would rather have a more universally accepted and decisive national champ. But is it that important if you think about it? Is it that necessary for the sport?

Even before the college football playoffs, even before the BCS, what made college football so unique unto itself, apart from any other college sport, and maybe just as relevant, even separate from the professional team sports, was that in order to win a “title,” every game mattered. Not just every prime time, top 25 match-up, not just rivalry games. If you messed up just once along the way, you’re pretty much f’d. Now with conference championships and the playoffs and subjective criteria, and especially now with a 12 team playoff, there could potentially be multiple teams with 2 losses with a chance at a title.

It de-emphasizes the regular season. It takes away what was so unique about college football for the better part of century plus.

Hey, it’s just a counter argument to the whole evolution and expansion of the college football playoff. Just an opinion.

[Blake]

I don’t disagree that the players want to play, and pretty much all college football fans would rather have a more universally accepted and decisive national champ. But is it that important if you think about it? Is it that necessary for the sport?

Even before the college football playoffs, even before the BCS, what made college football so unique unto itself, apart from any other college sport, and maybe just as relevant, even separate from the professional team sports, was that in order to win a “title,” every game mattered. Not just every prime time, top 25 match-up, not just rivalry games. If you messed up just once along the way, you’re pretty much f’d. Now with conference championships and the playoffs and subjective criteria, and especially now with a 12 team playoff, there could potentially be multiple teams with 2 losses with a chance at a title.

It de-emphasizes the regular season. It takes away what was so unique about college football for the better part of century plus.

Hey, it’s just a counter argument to the whole evolution and expansion of the college football playoff. Just an opinion.

The old way of 30+ years ago was bullshit because you could have multiple teams undefeated and still be left out. Look at Auburn in 2004(?)

So no, for them every game didn't matter.

[Obstructed_View]

Not selecting a team because someone got injured is indefensible. This is 2001 Nebraska, but there was no mathematical formula to blame it on.

A 12-team playoff will be great. Most of the conference champs and 8 SEC teams. Then when Michigan, Ohio State and Notre Dame join the SEC, the rest of the country can have one or two at large bids.

[Obstructed_View]

The old way of 30+ years ago was bullshit because you could have multiple teams undefeated and still be left out. Look at Auburn in 2004(?)

So no, for them every game didn't matter.
Isn't it ironic that the 2004 season was a rallying cry for four teams so that undefeated teams wouldn't be left out?

[Biggems]

We are losing our coDC/ LB coach to be HC at Nevada.

[benefactor]

Not selecting a team because someone got injured is indefensible. This is 2001 Nebraska, but there was no mathematical formula to blame it on.

A 12-team playoff will be great. Most of the conference champs and 8 SEC teams. Then when Michigan, Ohio State and Notre Dame join the SEC, the rest of the country can have one or two at large bids.
So what's your solution? You can sit here and play skeptic as much as you want but the fact is nothing has worked yet.

[Blake]

They should have made precise requirements to get into the playoffs instead of just some honks sitting in a room guessing who they think is best.

[benefactor]

They should have made precise requirements to get into the playoffs instead of just some honks sitting in a room guessing who they think is best.
I think they should cap it at three teams per conference. That way you do give the smaller schools a chance to come there and shake things up. Look at the NCAA tournament. Everybody loves the Cinderella.

[Obstructed_View]

So what's your solution? You can sit here and play skeptic as much as you want but the fact is nothing has worked yet.
Like I said, the four team model was put in place specifically so the undefeated conference champs could play each other. The easy solution is to just follow the rules as they were originally made. As far as I know, nobody ever punished a team for losing a player to injury. That was never a factor before. Now suddenly it's bigger than being undefeated.

Ron Desantis is a fucking moron, but maybe lawsuits from the schools will make a difference. ESPN and the committee have cost FSU millions of dollars. If I were head of the university I'd be considering sending just freshmen to play in the bowl game or something.

[FrostKing]

Don't be fooled into thinking the Playoff is expanding to make it more fair

It's expanding so that the SEC/Big10 can get more of their teams in :lol

Saban raising the trophy as his inspirational 3-loss Bama defied all odds

[Obstructed_View]

They should have made precise requirements to get into the playoffs instead of just some honks sitting in a room guessing who they think is best.
But didn't they? Head to head was supposed to be a precise requirement, but they dinged Baylor despite beating TCU because they had a weak non conference schedule. They have these rules but then violate them to put their team in.

It's not guessing who's best, it's making as much money as they can.

[playblair]

Don't be fooled into thinking the Playoff is expanding to make it more fair

It's expanding so that the SEC/Big10 can get more of their teams in :lol

Saban raising the trophy as his inspirational 3-loss Bama defied all odds
fsu fans r :cry:cry:cry:cry u had ur chance to be in the sec.........let us remember what ur administration said


"I felt that it was too difficult to win through the SEC to win a national championship," Bowden told Finebaum (http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=12875141). "I felt like our best route would be to go through the ACC

[Blake]

Don't be fooled into thinking the Playoff is expanding to make it more fair

It's expanding so that the SEC/Big10 can get more of their teams in :lol

Saban raising the trophy as his inspirational 3-loss Bama defied all odds

It'll be more fair if they make specific rules to get in like all power 5 plus group of 5 groups champions, two at large and then rank them in order based on BCS computer rankings

What they need to do though is to ditch about 64 teams from the FBS level and go power five only.

[playblair]

I think they should cap it at three teams per conference. That way you do give the smaller schools a chance to come there and shake things up. Look at the NCAA tournament. Everybody loves the Cinderella.
.the ncaa tournament works because basketball schools can only have 13 scholarships which spreads out the player base leading to parity.........football has 85 if ncaa used ur method there would be more tcu vs uga blowouts which would drive away viewers..............

[Biggems]

One idea I had a while back was have 16 eight team conferences made by teams in similar geographic regions.....like all the Florida schools in the same conference. 7 Conference games and 5 non.

16 Conference Champions make the playoffs. Have a live lottery to decide the seedings 1-16. 1 plays 16, 2 plays 15, and so on. Week 1 has 8 games. Week 2 has 4 games. Week 3 has 2 games. Week 4 is the National Championship Game.

[Blake]

One idea I had a while back was have 16 eight team conferences made by teams in similar geographic regions.....like all the Florida schools in the same conference. 7 Conference games and 5 non.

16 Conference Champions make the playoffs. Have a live lottery to decide the seedings 1-16. 1 plays 16, 2 plays 15, and so on. Week 1 has 8 games. Week 2 has 4 games. Week 3 has 2 games. Week 4 is the National Championship Game.

Sounds good but TV doesn't care. That's why USC and UCLA joined the big 10 and Stanford joined the ACC LOL

[Blake]

And lol at adding SMU.

[J.T.]

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[Neo.]

Don't be fooled into thinking the Playoff is expanding to make it more fair

It's expanding so that the SEC/Big10 can get more of their teams in :lol

Saban raising the trophy as his inspirational 3-loss Bama defied all odds

let's just be real now

Michigan Bama Georgia and Ohio State (and probably a few others who missed the playoffs) would all steamroll the noles without Travis.

it lets the clearly superior teams get their shot, along with the clearly inferior teams with misleading records

win win

[FrostKing]

let's just be real now

Michigan Bama Georgia and Ohio State (and probably a few others who missed the playoffs) would all steamroll the noles without Travis.

it lets the clearly superior teams get their shot, along with the clearly inferior teams with misleading records

win win
SEC Champion was going to be forced fed into the Playoff no matter what occurred elsewhere

We saw the narrative change on ESPN halfway thru the season, before Travis' injury. Why not? It's all hypothetical once you ignore W-L and plunge down the rabbit hole

[Blake]

let's just be real now

Michigan Bama Georgia and Ohio State (and probably a few others who missed the playoffs) would all steamroll the noles without Travis.

it lets the clearly superior teams get their shot, along with the clearly inferior teams with misleading records

win win

You mean like how Michigan was supposed to steamroll TCU last year?

[Neo.]

You mean like how Michigan was supposed to steamroll TCU last year?

wut

without max duggan yes they probably do rofl

[Neo.]

SEC Champion was going to be forced fed into the Playoff no matter what occurred elsewhere

We saw the narrative change on ESPN halfway thru the season, before Travis' injury. Why not? It's all hypothetical once you ignore W-L and plunge down the rabbit hole

I have always despised sec favoritism but tbh they (and bama in particular) have earned the benefit of the doubt

an undefeated team with a weak schedule and a number of struggles against lousy teams, and then lost their star QB and looked like total crap the last few games isn't going to get benefit of the doubt over a nick saban team that won the SEC by beating the undefeated defending champ.

an expanded playoff will prevent these kinds of conversations from even coming up. the arguments will in instead be among some 11-2 teams that didn't win their conference, which will be far less egregious than leaving out undefeated conference champs.

[Spurs Homer]

let it go already -

Texas is in - fuck the rest of those kunts!

So predictions for the final 4?

[Blake]

wut

without max duggan yes they probably do rofl

They were supposed to beat them by more than a TD with him.

I guess we can just let Vegas pick the playoff teams then

[DMX7]

They were supposed to beat them by more than a TD with him.

I guess we can just let Vegas pick the playoff teams then

There were some really suspicious things going on in that game TBH.


TCU apparently knew about Michigan’s sign-stealing habit ahead of their College Football Playoff matchup last New Year’s Eve, according to a report from Yahoo! Sports’ Ross Dellenger.

In order to mess with the Wolverines, the Horned Frogs changed their signs before kickoff. The coaches also used “dummy signals,” which were old plays that no longer ran with that signal. TCU players had to ignore these signals.

“Sometimes we froze a play before the snap,” a TCU coach told Dellenger. “We’d call a play and then we’d signal in another play with an old signal but we told players to run the original play.”

https://www.si.com/college/2023/10/26/tcu-michigan-sign-stealing-habits-college-football-playoff-report

I think the point is that Florida State is playing its worst football of the season now without its superstar QB. How can was gloss over that? I don't see any realistic chance of them beating any of the playoff teams (much less two of them).

[Blake]

There were some really suspicious things going on in that game TBH.



https://www.si.com/college/2023/10/26/tcu-michigan-sign-stealing-habits-college-football-playoff-report

I think the point is that Florida State is playing its worst football of the season now without its superstar QB. How can was gloss over that? I don't see any realistic chance of them beating any of the playoff teams (much less two of them).

:lol it'd be hilarious if the NFL or any other sport's playoff hopes were based on the eye test

[playblair]

fsu ur team couldnt score vs an fcs school with ur starting qb u wouldnt score vs michigan/alabama/texas/washington/uga............louisville held u to 3 points...........

[DMX7]

:lol it'd be hilarious if the NFL or any other sport's playoff hopes were based on the eye test

Even before the College Football Playoff, the polls have played an important part in crowning the National Champion and the polls are largely based on the eye test. So it's nothing new.

[FrostKing]

fsu ur team couldnt score vs an fcs school with ur starting qb u wouldnt score vs michigan/alabama/texas/washington/uga............louisville held u to 3 points...........
For 1 quarter?

FSU beat LSU (on a neutral site) by more than Bama did at home

Our backup won at the Swamp. Bama hasn't even stepped foot there in 3 seasons

ACC had winning record vs SEC this season. FSU is on 4-game winning streak vs the SEC.

Our 3rd string true freshman beat the #16 team in the nation :king

[Blake]

Even before the College Football Playoff, the polls have played an important part in crowning the National Champion and the polls are largely based on the eye test. So it's nothing new.

Yeah it's been retarded for that long

[Neo.]

They were supposed to beat them by more than a TD with him.

I guess we can just let Vegas pick the playoff teams then

or we can just expand the playoffs. which is exactly what is happening.

[Neo.]

the next step is to get rid of rankings, or at least wait until 6-7 games have been played before ranking teams. that way when you have the inevitable top 10 preseason ranking for a team like Aggie who ends up being 6-6, a team doesn't get some big undeserved jump in the rankings for beating said crappy team early in the season.

[Blake]

or we can just expand the playoffs. which is exactly what is happening.

And also make more specific criteria to get in or else there will still be controversy. There's never controversy in any other sport over who's in the playoffs.

....lol except for college basketball but there's 64 teams so not much complaining and conference champs get auto in

[DMX7]

And also make more specific criteria to get in or else there will still be controversy. There's never controversy in any other sport over who's in the playoffs.

....lol except for college basketball but there's 64 teams so not much complaining and conference champs get auto in

You can make specific criteria and there will still be controversy one way or another.

[Neo.]

And also make more specific criteria to get in or else there will still be controversy. There's never controversy in any other sport over who's in the playoffs.

....lol except for college basketball but there's 64 teams so not much complaining and conference champs get auto in

tbh allowing over 120 teams to be a part of this level of competition (when it's clear only about 30 of them are actually quality teams) is another issue. get rid of the abundance of cupcake competition. having undefeated or one-loss teams shouldn't happen as easily and frequently as it does. that will make W-L records much easier to accept at face value.

[Blake]

You can make specific criteria and there will still be controversy one way or another.

What other sport has controversy about who's in?

[HemisfairArena]

So YOU now interject common opponent and how much a team beats them by? While griping about the committee which I agree did the wrong thing.
Thats every bit as bad as the committee. One team might have a common opponent they slaughter but put in the 3rd team so the score does not get horribly disfigured.
Figures for you. Go away.
And if you seriously think FSUs third team QB is the same caliber as a 3rd string NFL qb... stop. Journey men NFL ers can be great for a game. Problem is teams eventually figure them out after multiple games. But they are still critical to get you by a game or two in the NFL. Maybe more if they can run a very different offense.

lmao,,,what a moron,,,you longhorns fans are saying since we beat Bama and Bama beat Georgia then by proxy we are better than Georgia,,,,hahahaha. Go away, simpleton. Georgia would be favored against Texas and Alabama on a neutral field right now even after bama beat them,,,,

[pgardn]

lmao,,,what a moron,,,you longhorns fans are saying since we beat Bama and Bama beat Georgia then by proxy we are better than Georgia,,,,hahahaha. Go away, simpleton. Georgia would be favored against Texas and Alabama on a neutral field right now even after bama beat them,,,,

So what do you say?
Alabama is better than UT without beating them?
AFTER they got lucky to beat Auburn?

You Damn Trumpsters just can’t handle what reasonable is.

Texas beat Alabama at night in Bama up by 10 pts and rammed the ball down their throat for the last 7 minutes of the game ball in hand.
They could have scored again FG maybe TD. This is what actually happened. Both teams have improved. But UT MUST be worse than Bama because YOU say so?

gf yourself old deep southern inbred. Those liberal UT guys? Fkn idiot…

The committee values head to head competition. So just forget that Bama beat Georgia and put Georgia as better. Make it easy for yourself by throwing out what has already been established because it did not go your way. Pure Trump. Bama did not really beat Georgia. Get a group together to storm the Committee offices. The team that got screwed was FSU. Going by the committee rules. Undefeated power 5 conf winners get the nod. Decide amongst them first. Under that scenario UT STILL gets in. Unless you want to completely crack up all guidelines. Just put in ole Piss old boi.

[pgardn]

Just make sure UT never plays SEC teams again, ever.

Oh snap?…. wtf has happened….

[FrostKing]

"Just expand"

Enjoy 2-loss "champions"

[playblair]

"Just expand"

Enjoy 2-loss "champions"
fsu playing the woe is me victims.......fsu with 1 loss got into the national championship in 93 over 2 undefeated power 5 teams.........hypocrites..........ur ad voted to postpone the 12 team playoff until 2024 because he was whiny that texas/ou left for the sec..........fsu deserves the karma..........

[pgardn]

"Just expand"

Enjoy 2-loss "champions"

Not a fan of this possibility either.

[DMX7]

"Just expand"

Enjoy 2-loss "champions"

Good point. I'm not a fan of that either.

[Neo.]

"Just expand"

Enjoy 2-loss "champions"

kinda like 7 loss champs in the NFL

but who has a problem with that?

[pgardn]

kinda like 7 loss champs in the NFL

but who has a problem with that?

I think it totally sux.
For college football.
Its one of the differences imo that makes college football interesting Imo.
College football is patently unfair. No draft and the richest schools with the largest fanbases and a bit of history are at a huge advantage.
So imo you gotta be close to perfect in play. That only seems fair. Unless you make a super conference maybe WITH a hs draft. Then you become even more semi NFL. Also Hold the schools to max NIL money and max roster expenditures.

And getting into the actual school part of college football is also a mess.

I guess if you want to become basically pre NFL in all aspects you can. Lower the roster numbers, cut players, move the hash marks…

Note: NFL is a bore for me personally. Still satisfies a huge betting public though. So I’m very biased in this discussion. And part of my interest in college football now is just the fact it is changing so rapidly. That could wane.

[pgardn]

OU has now lost its ENTIRE starting offensive line to the NFL draft and portal. (This includes a true freshman starting OG)
damn… That’s not ideal entering the SEC with a valuable RS freshman QB.
(Dillion Gabriel is off to Oregon)

Im not complaining.

edit: I completely forgot OU has a bowl game. Good luck. Get the backup QB ready.

[DMX7]

Texas backup QB Maalik Murphy to enter transfer portal

Huge respect for him and wish him the best.

[GAustex]

Texas backup QB Maalik Murphy to enter transfer portal

Huge respect for him and wish him the best.

Was not impressed but small sample.
Later

[spankadelphia]

OU has now lost its ENTIRE starting offensive line to the NFL draft and portal. (This includes a true freshman starting OG)
damn… That’s not ideal entering the SEC with a valuable RS freshman QB.
(Dillion Gabriel is off to Oregon)

Im not complaining.

edit: I completely forgot OU has a bowl game. Good luck. Get the backup QB ready.

Saturday, Nov 23: OU vs. Alabama
Saturday, Nov 30: OU at LSU

We’ll see what they’re made of.

[pgardn]

Saturday, Nov 23: OU vs. Alabama
Saturday, Nov 30: OU at LSU

We’ll see what they’re made of.

We also will see what the LSU defense is made of next season.
It was absolutely abysmal this season. Horrifyingly bad.
A waste for such a dynamic offense.

[pgardn]

Was not impressed but small sample.
Later

Sark is not easy on QBs. He expects a hell of a lot. The playbook grew this year with such potent WRs and TE. And also specialized RBs that can catch and run. (Kielan Robinson & Jayldon Blue) Also Sark did a complete overhaul of Malik’s throwing motion. The QB experts think Malik reverted back to his older long throwing motion specifically while under pressure during games. I hope he does well because Malik spent a lot of time learning and UT spent a lot of time teaching. Malik needs the right landing spot. I hope Sark helped with that.

Arch Manning is a much much better athlete than Ewers or Murphy. With a super quick motion. Arch is, imo, a much better backup. It would really be weird if Quinn got injured yet again and Manning knocked it out of the park in multiple big games. Sark might feel duty bound to get Quinn into the high rounds of the draft and play him upon recovering. QB is a very sensitive position because it’s so important in the NFL. You better have a good backup in the NFL. So much $ for that position now. Ability and brains required.

[DMX7]

kinda like 7 loss champs in the NFL

but who has a problem with that?

I kind of had a problem with it.

[pgardn]

As a reminder, Texas women’s volleyball plays for the national championship against Nebraska after disposing of the Wisconsin Badgers.


https://x.com/TexasVolleyball/status/1735526017664491882?s=20


^ turn the sound up.

[playblair]

As a reminder, Texas women’s volleyball plays for the national championship against Nebraska after disposing of the Wisconsin Badgers.


https://x.com/TexasVolleyball/status/1735526017664491882?s=20


^ turn the sound up.

turrible turnout for texas fans for a team that is playing for repeat championship.......nebraska fans outnumber texas fans 20 to 1........

[GAustex]

Texas stomped em
Natty champs in Vball

[pgardn]

turrible turnout for texas fans for a team that is playing for repeat championship.......nebraska fans outnumber texas fans 20 to 1........

Nebraska only lost 1 game all year ranked top among the 1 seeds.
They Bought the tickets early as the #1 ranked team cruising to the semifinals AT HOME.
Texas went in as a mid 2 seed and even lost a set to the Aggies first round.
Lost 2 sets to Tenn.
Not considered a semifinal team, especially having to beat Stanford AT Stanford to even get into the semifinals .

Play Blair had UT in the finals of course; PB knows him some volleyball and anus licking. Bought all his tickets early to sell to Nebraska fans at an elevated price. Not…

They got hot and crushed the best 3 teams in the nation one after the other. Nebraska did not get close in ANY SET
3-0. They beat Nebraska worse than any other team they played in the tournament! PB so jealous of dem woohman sports…

[DMX7]

Nebraska only lost 1 game all year ranked top among the 1 seeds.
They Bought the tickets early as the #1 ranked team cruising to the semifinals AT HOME.
Texas went in as a mid 2 seed and even lost a set to the Aggies first round.
Lost 2 sets to Tenn.
Not considered a semifinal team, especially having to beat Stanford AT Stanford to even get into the semifinals .

Play Blair had UT in the finals of course; PB knows him some volleyball and anus licking. Bought all his tickets early to sell to Nebraska fans at an elevated price. Not…

They got hot and crushed the best 3 teams in the nation one after the other. Nebraska did not get close in ANY SET
3-0. They beat Nebraska worse than any other team they played in the tournament! PB so jealous of dem woohman sports…

I think Texas was the top #2 seed. Regardless, it didn't look good on TV how outnumbered Texas fans were but the result is all that matters. What a demolition.

[pgardn]

I think Texas was the top #2 seed. Regardless, it didn't look good on TV how outnumbered Texas fans were but the result is all that matters. What a demolition.

We were not expected to be in the semifinals much less the finals.
We were the only 2 seed to make it to the semis. Makes sense to me for the way this tournament is set up.
Especially losing our best player from last years team.

So it turned out this years team was better and a huge surprise how they got better. That was the most tuned in team we have ever had. We just crushed the favorites in the last 3 rounds. Nobody would have thought we would beat the best team in the country losing zero sets. This was an amazing team that was totally unexpected. I bet some of the parents and relatives of kids on our team had to scramble to get tickets or made other plans. Back to back? Our previous championship before the b to b was 10 years. We got demolished in a number of tournaments as favorites under this same coach. I get it and the announcers basically stated Nebraska had the most tickets when they won their semifinal.

Just not a surprise and expected from my end. I don’t take it as UT fans don’t care like Play with anuses. We also come in first or second in the directors cup every year (usually 2nd to Stanford) We have won much more at a bunch of other sports. I like the fact it’s not totally football. Thank god it’s not in fact, there are other sports we have been much better in. That says much much more than crowd size at tournament semis we did not expect to be in. Del Conte has done a fantastic job keeping up the entire sports program.

[pgardn]

Well it’s still 2023 and I personally would still rather play Michigan.
But I never would have thought we would have 1 loss on basically the last play of a game.

CFP ?

Never ever would have put $ on it. Never ever…

[playblair]

We were not expected to be in the semifinals much less the finals.
We were the only 2 seed to make it to the semis. Makes sense to me for the way this tournament is set up.
Especially losing our best player from last years team.



Just not a surprise and expected from my end. I don’t take it as UT fans don’t care like Play with anuses. We also come in first or second in the directors cup every year (usually 2nd to Stanford) We have won much more at a bunch of other sports. I like the fact it’s not totally football. Thank god it’s not in fact, there are other sports we have been much better in. That says much much more than crowd size at tournament semis we did not expect to be in. Del Conte has done a fantastic job keeping up the entire sports program.

less than 20 people showed up to the volleyball celebration ut tower........nebraska had more fans for their arrival home later time in the airport...........texas fans do no support womens sports........hundreds showed up to the tower when texas beat alabama.......

[pgardn]

less than 20 people showed up to the volleyball celebration ut tower........nebraska had more fans for their arrival home later time in the airport...........texas fans do no support womens sports........hundreds showed up to the tower when texas beat alabama.......

Is there any football to show up for in Nebraska? Hows that going? Big meetings at the airport?
Nebraska has extraordinary fans no doubt.
When you have almost nothing to cheer about in football and you already have fantastic fans, I get it.
Especially considering in a city like Austin and any city Nebraska. I have always maintained UT fans on the whole are more reserved because they have "better" things to do. Football is still king however. UT fans that have the bucks will travel for any football. Thats the bragging rights for UT alumni. And there are alot of alumni with heaps of money. And yes they are spoiled and want to stick it into their business associates faces.
Overall UT sports are A+ Compare the success to ATM. Its not even close. Another big school with money.

[Blake]

Nebraska fans are insane when it comes to supporting their teams. I remember in Lubbock when the huskers came, I couldn't believe the amount of red shirted corn heads in the stands.

Of all the home games I've been to, I think they were easily the most visitor fans that ever dared to visit.

[FrostKing]

Ya have Husker buddy and he uploaded cool photos from their classic stadium, new renovations with big fan scoreboard. It seats 85K

I started following CFB in the early 90s. Seminoles 1st NC on a FG over Tommie Frazier in the Orange Bowl. He won the next 2-titles

https://i.ibb.co/S3Vz4XX/s-l1600.jpg. I remember they won again in '97 with Scott Frost. The end zone kicked ball @ Missouri. The Huskers had the mojo.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/qRc2rxx/Screenshot-20231219-080316-Chrome.png

The early signing period for the 2024 football recruiting class begins Wednesday.


While their two-year run as national champions will conclude next month, the Georgia Bulldogs are looking to reclaim the top class in ESPN's team rankings for the first time since 2018.

What to know about the 2024 class

Sixteen prospects within the 2024 ESPN 300 remain uncommitted.

All 20 five-star prospects in the cycle have committed.

With the decision of WR Ryan Williams (No. 9 overall), who was third overall in 2025, to reclassify into the 2024 class and sign with Alabama in February, Alabama (CB Jaylen Mbakwe, No. 2 overall; QB Julian Sayin, No. 3 overall and Williams) leads the way with a trio of five-stars. Georgia (CB Ellis Robinson IV, No. 1 overall; LB Justin Williams; No. 14 overall) and Auburn (WR Cameron Coleman, No. 6 overall; DE Jamonta Waller, No. 19 overall) are the only other school with multiple five-stars. The Tigers flipped Coleman (Dec. 1) and Waller (Nov. 11) from Texas A&M and Florida, respectively.


DE Williams Nwaneri (No. 5 overall) would be the highest-ranked defensive lineman to sign with Missouri since Terry Beckner Jr. in 2015; WR Micah Hudson (No. 13 overall) would be the highest-ranked player ever to sign with Texas Tech; LB Dylan Stewart (No. 15 overall) would be South Carolina's first five-star recruit since defensive end Jordan Burch in 2020 and OT Jordan Seaton (No. 20 overall) would be the highest-ranked offensive lineman ever to sign with Colorado.


Robinson, from IMG Academy (Florida), is the first cornerback ever to be No. 1 overall in the ESPN 300. He committed to Kirby Smart and the Bulldogs on Feb. 1.


Sayin, Dylan Raiola and D.J. Lagway (No. 17 overall; Florida) -- all five-star prospects -- are the top three quarterbacks in the cycle.


Sayin was the lowest ranked of the three to begin the 2024 rankings (No. 24 overall) then climbed into the top 10 by April. His final prep season at Carlsbad (California) High School saw 2,369 passing yards with 24 touchdowns and one interception in 10 games in 2023.


Meanwhile, Raiola, the son of former Nebraska Cornhuskers and Detroit Lions center Dominic Raiola, was the top-ranked player in the class when ESPN debuted its 2024 player rankings. He initially committed to Ryan Day and the Ohio State Buckeyes in May 2022 before reopening things last December. Following a move from Arizona to Georgia, he pledged to Kirby Smart and Georgia on May 15. He took an official visit to Nebraska, where his uncle, Donovan, is currently the offensive line coach on Matt Rhule's staff, last weekend and followed that with a commitment to Nebraska on Monday. Dylan Raiola finished his high school career at Buford (Georgia) High School with 2,666 passing yards, 34 TDs and one interception in 13 games this fall.


Lagway has been in the top 20 for the entire cycle and was the first of the trio to come off the board when he committed to Billy Napier and the Florida Gators on Dec. 7, 2022. He is currently the linchpin of the sixth-ranked class and might have had the best senior campaign of the three. In 13 games for Willis (Texas) High School, Lagway threw for 4,604 yards and 58 touchdowns while rushing for 957 yards and 16 scores. -- Blake Baumgartner

[MultiTroll]

Tulia Tag QB not playing for Maryland in the Bowl.

You guys like that or think it's a cop out?

[Blake]

Tulia Tag QB not playing for Maryland in the Bowl.

You guys like that or think it's a cop out?

As a fan hate it but I get the kids need to look out for themselves. They don't owe the school anything

[DMX7]

The number of 6-6 teams in bowl games is absolutely ridiculous. It's gotten out of control. We need less bowl games.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/t4M23Rn/Screenshot-20231225-164934-Chrome.png

No QB for the bowl game. Maybe should just decline the invite. 70% of the offense was already skipping the meaningless game.

[pgardn]

https://i.ibb.co/t4M23Rn/Screenshot-20231225-164934-Chrome.png

No QB for the bowl game. Maybe should just decline the invite. 70% of the offense was already skipping the meaningless game.

The portal has been very good to FSU until it has not been good for FSU.

[FrostKing]

The portal has been very good to FSU until it has not been good for FSU.
Can't suit up transfers yet.

FSU players are checked out. Not allowed to compete in the Playoff, they are finished with CFB and focusing on the future.

[benefactor]

Kansas putting on a show. They have some solid receivers

[benefactor]

Thuggin and buggin Kansas with 5 personal foul penalties

[benefactor]

Entertaining game tbh

[pgardn]

Can't suit up transfers yet.

FSU players are checked out. Not allowed to compete in the Playoff, they are finished with CFB and focusing on the future.

My point still stands.
FSU would not have been in the cfp (they should have been in) without portal guys. So now they get to play a bowl game without players. Bowl games and practices against good opponents can be very worthwhile for actual hs recruits on the team. But not if the punter has to play QB. Portal guys can be in extremely important positions of need. But complete overhauls every year are probably very difficult (see Colorado). Imo you still have to raise the puppies. But you can’t just throw them to the wolves without the most important pack members.

QB depth is going to be a continual concern in college football Imo. Your worthy backup can leave to be a starter on another team. And injuries become magnified.

Also the timing of the portal does not coincide well with teams in the cfp. Players who wish to leave are at a disadvantage.
This will be one of the first fixes Imo.

[pgardn]

Kansas putting on a show. They have some solid receivers

Bean is also gonna be a problem for the Big 12 in the regular season.

[Blake]

Bean is also gonna be a problem for the Big 12 in the regular season.

Tech wouldn't have beat them if he had stayed healthy the whole game

[GAustex]

lol aggie

[Blake]

lol aggie

Eh, half the team sat out the game for the aggies

[DMX7]

Eh, half the team sat out the game for the aggies

A lot of their top players didn't just sit out but are gone for good. This is going to be a major rebuilding project but it's probably doable with their resources.

[Blake]

A lot of their top players didn't just sit out but are gone for good. This is going to be a major rebuilding project but it's probably doable with their resources.

Yeah the portal rules suck when it comes to these bowls

[DMX7]

Yeah the portal rules suck when it comes to these bowls

The lesser bowl games have almost always been more about next season than this season. Now this reality is just more explicit.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/vxPVFBG/Screenshot-20231228-123632-Chrome.png

Da Hurricanes and their Top10 Recruiting classes always losing bowl games

[Blake]

https://i.ibb.co/vxPVFBG/Screenshot-20231228-123632-Chrome.png

Da Hurricanes and their Top10 Recruiting classes always losing bowl games

Yeah all the schools with NFL level talent like that are short during the bowl game. Miami having to start a redshirt freshman for his first start ever

[FrostKing]

Yeah all the schools with NFL level talent like that are short during the bowl game. Miami having to start a redshirt freshman for his first start ever
True but Miami FL has historically brushed off non-NYE bowl games. Since the 2000s they have to be the biggest achievers as players completely checked out especially if the bowl was played in cold weather

[Blake]

True but Miami FL has historically brushed off non-NYE bowl games. Since the 2000s they have to be the biggest achievers as players completely checked out especially if the bowl was played in cold weather

Eh who gives a shit if they win or lose the Bad Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl

[DMX7]

The Pop Tarts Bowl? It's literally become a joke. We don't need this many bowls. The least they could do is eliminate the bowl games that come before the Alamo Bowl.

[playblair]

https://i.ibb.co/vxPVFBG/Screenshot-20231228-123632-Chrome.png

Da Hurricanes and their Top10 Recruiting classes always losing bowl games
committee got it right.........acc turrible bowl season..........

[FrostKing]

committee got it right.........acc turrible bowl season..........
4-5 record

As for the committee, I didn't expect you to be an ESPN spokesman

[benefactor]

OU collapsing

[playblair]

4-5 record

As for the committee, I didn't expect you to be an ESPN spokesman
after watching every acc team play in bowl games if u still think they are anything more than the worst power 5 conference u r delusional ........

[FrostKing]

after watching every acc team play in bowl games if u still think they are anything more than the worst power 5 conference u r delusional ........
The regular season is a more accurate representation of quality than the exhibition bowls of today

[FrostKing]

JawJaw favored by 20. FSU backup that won @ the Swamp declaring transfer. Seminoles down to 1 QB ��. These Bowls becoming a bit of a joke.

Kirby Smart able to get most his boys to suit up. As a FSU fan i think we cover but on paper we look really bare to even line up. I think 1 RB because of declare, transfer & injury.

I was always preaching let's play & see but after the backup QB transfered. Geez do we even have enough bodies. So many years since ACC Champs & NYE bowl. We have a duty to play.

[playblair]

fsu :lol:lol:lol:lol FrostKing :rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin acc conference :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[playblair]

JawJaw favored by 20. FSU backup that won @ the Swamp declaring transfer. Seminoles down to 1 QB ��. These Bowls becoming a bit of a joke.

Kirby Smart able to get most his boys to suit up. As a FSU fan i think we cover but on paper we look really bare to even line up. I think 1 RB because of declare, transfer & injury.

I was always preaching let's play & see but after the backup QB transfered. Geez do we even have enough bodies. So many years since ACC Champs & NYE bowl. We have a duty to play.
ur saying if certain players r not their its a different team.........but u & fsu fans spent an entire month whining about the committees decision with that reason given.......committee got it right

[monosylab1k]

Well this game is proving it -


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4pRe8ul7KQ

[DMX7]

S-E-CCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FrostKing]

ur saying if certain players r not their its a different team.........but u & fsu fans spent an entire month whining about the committees decision with that reason given.......committee got it right
We weren't going to play 3rd Stringers in the Playoff :lol

Not sure what your point is

[Blake]

after watching every acc team play in bowl games if u still think they are anything more than the worst power 5 conference u r delusional ........

Lol putting value on exhibition games without their best players

[Neo.]

LMAO anyone who thought FSU belonged
LMAO players and fans proclaiming themselves national champs prematurely

it was so obvious they had no business being in the conversation. they were overranked to begin, beat an overranked LSU team early, and had a crap schedule the rest of the way.

this is why pre-season rankings are stupid. they so often snowball into teams being ranked in spots they dont belong (both overranked and underranked)

[Biggems]

We weren't going to play 3rd Stringers in the Playoff :lol

Not sure what your point is

maybe not, but 63-3? Where is the backbone? Where is the pride?

I ask this as a Texas Longhorns homer who has seen so many games where we thought we were big and bad, only to be left on the road as road kill, with guts, blood, and brains scattered for miles.....66-3 UCLA, several RRR games vs OU, the Cotton Bowl vs Miami in the early 90s, just to name a few of our gutless moments.

FSU didn't belong. When they didn't get their way, instead of coming out and giving a middle finger to the world and beating down Georgia, they threw tantrums and curled up in the fetal position, covered in their own shit and piss, and quit.

[DMX7]

I don't think the FSU offense would look any better without opt-outs. They didn't belong in the CFP if we go by how they were playing at the end of the season with the QB injury.

[playblair]

Lol putting value on exhibition games without their best players
tech fan thinks acc best players would make a difference :lol:lol:lol

[Neo.]

FSU didn't belong. When they didn't get their way, instead of coming out and giving a middle finger to the world and beating down Georgia, they threw tantrums and curled up in the fetal position, covered in their own shit and piss, and quit.

this

[FrostKing]

maybe not, but 63-3? Where is the backbone? Where is the pride?

I ask this as a Texas Longhorns homer who has seen so many games where we thought we were big and bad, only to be left on the road as road kill, with guts, blood, and brains scattered for miles.....66-3 UCLA, several RRR games vs OU, the Cotton Bowl vs Miami in the early 90s, just to name a few of our gutless moments.

FSU didn't belong. When they didn't get their way, instead of coming out and giving a middle finger to the world and beating down Georgia, they threw tantrums and curled up in the fetal position, covered in their own shit and piss, and quit.
With a fully healthy team FSU would beat Georgia. Post injuries they would lose by 7-10 points

Pride doesn't make 3rd Stringers miraculously better

[Neo.]

With a fully healthy team FSU would beat Georgia.

they had their chance to prove that was an actual possibility by giving them a good game with the players they had.

they didnt. all they proved is that they are not a serious program. playing their third stringers did absolutely no favors for anyone, and simply made them look weak and may have completely killed any chance of them getting into a superconference anytime soon.

[GAustex]

I’ll say it again
Being for FSU is a character flaw
Tough luck Frosty

[GAustex]

Oh
Almost forgot
lol fsu

[FrostKing]

they had their chance to prove that was an actual possibility by giving them a good game with the players they had.

they didnt. all they proved is that they are not a serious program. playing their third stringers did absolutely no favors for anyone, and simply made them look weak and may have completely killed any chance of them getting into a superconference anytime soon.
How do you hold players hostage?

Don't you think the self-righteous argument about a sport where a small committee decides who does & doesn't compete for a championship is rather rich?

Yah I'm sure some of the players said fk off and I'll skip the exhibition.

[FrostKing]

I’ll say it again
Being for FSU is a character flaw
Tough luck Frosty
Haha. Get mad at the broken system not young athletes that feel disenfranchised.

[Neo.]

How do you hold players hostage?

hostage:wtf what are you talking about :rollin


Don't you think the self-righteous argument about a sport where a small committee decides who does & doesn't compete for a championship is rather rich?

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[Winehole23]

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[FrostKing]

hostage:wtf what are you talking about :rollin



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You think FSU/Norvell instructed the players to sit?

They laid their hearts out in the ACCCG and were rewarded by dropping in the rankings. The season was over. I'm not surprised they chose to skip the glorified spring game. Hopefully the TV ratings bombed.

CFB has chosen to become like College Basketball. Where only the final 3 weeks of the season matters. Wonder how many hungover football fans will ultimately be engaged tomorrow.... to watch 4 teams that haven't suited up in over a month.

[Neo.]

You think FSU/Norvell instructed the players to sit?

They laid their hearts out in the ACCCG and were rewarded by dropping in the rankings. The season was over. I'm not surprised they chose to skip the glorified spring game. Hopefully the TV ratings bombed.

CFB has chosen to become like College Basketball. Where only the final 3 weeks of the season matters. Wonder how many hungover football fans will ultimately be engaged tomorrow.... to watch 4 teams that haven't suited up in over a month.

I'll take this system over split champions and teams claiming national championships that they didn't win.

[FrostKing]

I'll take this system over split champions and teams claiming national championships that they didn't win.
I wanted the young men to all suit up and play for the school, their teammates and the fans that drove/flew out for the game. Unfortunately it seems increasingly our society has different priorities & motivations.

[Biggems]

The bigger Florida schools seem to have toxic football programs. They definitely have a frontrunner mentality. When things are going great, they are all in. The minute they hit the slightest speed bump, they start jumping off the wagon. FSU, Miami, and UCF all came not to play in their bowls. Props to Florida A&M and even South Florida. They came, competed, and dominated.

I do not expect you to always win your bowl game, but I do expect you to come in, give a damn, and compete. Hell, your school is making a nice chunk of change just to show up. Plus, the players get a few days to do some fun off the field stuff, and even get gifts.

NCAA also needs to fix its schedule. They need to keep the transfer portal closed until after the National Championship game. I know that is difficult, with spring semesters starting up again right after, but maybe do not take a month off before the playoffs. if you start the playoffs immediately after the Conference Championships, the season can be over before January or on News Years Day.

Then, they could open the portal immediately. This would give all of those players 2 weeks before the semester starts to find a new school. Most of them would already have their new school ready to go.

[FrostKing]

Players have been skipping bowl games for a couple decades.

I disagree blaming it on Florida schools. Toxic programs? FSU just laid it all on the line in the ACCCG with a 3rd string true freshman. It was a historic defensive performance to secure the Conference Title for first time in 9 years.

[FrostKing]

FSU lost their team leader to horrific ankle injury.

Regrouped to Win at the Swamp and Conference Title. That's the opposite of toxic. Poor evaluation.

[FrostKing]

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[GAustex]

^trash

[pgardn]

After watching just the first half of MI v AL, I think we can win the whole thing if…

We can somehow beat Washington. Our best safety will not be allowed to play the first half.
I am skeptical of our secondary against the Wash. receivers and Penix.
Better get some pressure.

[playblair]

fsu would get negative yards vs these 2 defenses :lol:lol:lol

[playblair]

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has only thrown for over 300 yards 1 time in career :lol:lol:lol

[monosylab1k]

Seen this script way too many times. Bama will find some inexplicable way to win this game at the end.

[monosylab1k]

No surprises here. Michigan just beating an inferior team.

[FrostKing]

Michigan scared to run the ball

[monosylab1k]

Michigan scared to run the ball

Alabama is stacking the box because they know McCarthy can’t beat them.

[playblair]

sec is going to a title game again.........sec should take every at large spot in the 12 team playoff........big10 football :lol:lol

[FrostKing]

fsu would get negative yards vs these 2 defenses :lol:lol:lol
Seminoles would smash these pretenders

[monosylab1k]

Seminoles would smash these pretenders

lol, 63-3

[MultiTroll]

Milroe :monkey

WTH was that final diving into the line 4 yards short.
Looked like play was designed to be roll right read option.

[FrostKing]

Shotgun QB sneak against a run defense team

[MultiTroll]

I take back my WTH was Millroe doing.

Saban:

Play was a quarterback run that wasn't blocked. "The fact that it didn't work made it a really bad call."

[GAustex]

Washington has some fattie cheerleaders

[GAustex]

^not that there is anything wrong with that

[DMX7]

Washington has outplayed Texas big time up to this point.

[GAustex]

Mid third quarter and it’s clear ut is getting out coached.
Can’t block em and can’t defend em.

[playblair]

Washington has outplayed Texas big time up to this point.


Mid third quarter and it’s clear ut is getting out coached.
Can’t block em and can’t defend em.
washington the most penalized team in cfb has 0 penalties the game is using a big10 crew.......washington has nearly double digit 6th year seniors on the team.........

[FkLA]

God damn how did Penix not win the Heisman? This is my first time watching them but he looks lethal. Rocket launcher of an arm. And they're undefeated + he put up monster stats so I don't get what prevented him from winning it.

They've clearly looked like the better team today, tbh.

[FkLA]

washington the most penalized team in cfb has 0 penalties the game is using a big10 crew.......washington has nearly double digit 6th year seniors on the team.........

Games not even over yet and you already have the pre-made excuses ready to go. Smh.

[playblair]

God damn how did Penix not win the Heisman? This is my first time watching them but he looks lethal. Rocket launcher of an arm. And they're undefeated + he put up monster stats so I don't get what prevented him from winning it.

They've clearly looked like the better team today, tbh.
hes a 6th year player........hes 3 years older than most he plays against.......

[griffith]

One team showed up and the other didn't. Plain and simple

[FkLA]

hes a 6th year player........hes 3 years older than most he plays against.......

RS, COVID year not counting

There's going to be a lot of 6th yr seniors on all teams in the coming years. What's the big deal?

[Robz4000]

:cry but we back :cry

:lmao

[GAustex]

Not sure about #4 commitment

[playblair]

Games not even over yet and you already have the pre-made excuses ready to go. Smh.
ur biased.......even the announcers r upset with the lack of missed calls.......block in the back in front of ref no call.........

[GAustex]

Good year ut.
Way improvement over past shitshows.

[GAustex]

Gotta say the defensive effort was disappointing

[jehawk81]

Ewers sucks

[DMX7]

Penalties and turnovers. End of story.

[HemisfairArena]

Georgia belonged in over Texas or Alabama but whatever,,,,Michigan vs Washington is the right game for the National,,,,Bama and Texas didnt belong.

[MultiTroll]

Final play WA db way before ball arrived places his right and by hand on Tex shoulder pad and used it like a diving board to sling shot his jump.
That is how WA db got high / Texas wr was unable to elevate higher.

Pathertic time management by WA with the lead.

Would have been a trip to have seen Arch Manning come on in relief and lead the win.

[DMX7]

Georgia belonged in over Texas or Alabama but whatever,,,,Michigan vs Washington is the right game for the National,,,,Bama and Texas didnt belong.

Alabama beat Georgia.

[FkLA]

Just came across this. Man, wtf kind of program is Kirby running? 41% is crazy. Surprised it's not talked about more.


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[DMX7]

Just came across this. Man, wtf kind of program is Kirby running? 41% is crazy. Surprised it's not talked about more.


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Hmm... How does that happen?

[DMX7]

Final play WA db way before ball arrived places his right and by hand on Tex shoulder pad and used it like a diving board to sling shot his jump.
That is how WA db got high / Texas wr was unable to elevate higher.

Pathertic time management by WA with the lead.

Washington has lived life on the edge all season with these close games. It's really incredible.


Would have been a trip to have seen Arch Manning come on in relief and lead the win.

Texas redzone offense was poor almost all season. Doesn't surprise me at all that they couldn't come up with a TD on those last two drives. I don't fully understand the cause of it. Is it Ewers? Play calling? or some combination of things?

[HemisfairArena]

Alabama beat Georgia.

Doesnt make them the better team,,,,just the better team that day. Arizona Cardinals beat the Cowboys and the Eagles,,,,you gonna tell me they are the better team? Georgia just beat Florida State by 60 and could have won by a 100 if they wanted. Now i get it, FSU was deflated and short players. Georgia would be favored against any of the final 4 teams on a neutral site,,,,you gonna tell me Texas would be favored over Georgia right now?,,,,,lmao. Georgia would be a 14 point favorite over Washington if they played today.

[Blake]

tech fan thinks acc best players would make a difference :lol:lol:lol

We'll never know because they got shafted

[Blake]

No surprises here. Michigan just beating an inferior team.

Clearly Alabama didn't belong.

[Blake]

Just came across this. Man, wtf kind of program is Kirby running? 41% is crazy. Surprised it's not talked about more.


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Honestly, wgaf? It's all business.

[HemisfairArena]

Notre Dame and Stanford have student athlete graduation rates in the 90's and when was the last time they won a national? They are #1 and #2 in the nation for student football athlete graduation rate,,,, Clemson is at 75%,,,, Texas is at 71%,,,,Its all about the money,,,,Georgia doesnt care if you cant spell the word cat,,,,just so long as you can play football.

[HemisfairArena]

Now here's some food for thought,,,,,you remember the college football committee kept FSU out the playoff because their starting QB went down and the committee said FSU didnt pass the eye test now. Well lets look at the Alabama QB against Michigan,,,,his stats were 116 yards, no TD's, 6 sacks and a QB rating of 45,,,,,now come holla at your boy, committee,,,,,

[FrostKing]

Now here's some food for thought,,,,,you remember the college football committee kept FSU out the playoff because their starting QB went down and the committee said FSU didnt pass the eye test now. Well lets look at the Alabama QB against Michigan,,,,his stats were 116 yards, no TD's, 6 sacks and a QB rating of 45,,,,,now come holla at your boy, committee,,,,,

:wakeup

[FrostKing]

God damn how did Penix not win the Heisman? This is my first time watching them but he looks lethal. Rocket launcher of an arm. And they're undefeated + he put up monster stats so I don't get what prevented him from winning it.

They've clearly looked like the better team today, tbh.
Because SEC Daniels racked up 13 TDs against Grambling State & Georgia State

[rjv]

Penix was robbed, imho.

[MultiTroll]

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[playblair]

Penix was robbed, imho.
not robbed hes 24 & a 6th year player playing against kids 3/4 years younger........if he won the heisman it would be disgrace.........

[pgardn]

After watching just the first half of MI v AL, I think we can win the whole thing if…

We can somehow beat Washington. Our best safety will not be allowed to play the first half.
I am skeptical of our secondary against the Wash. receivers and Penix.
Better get some pressure.

Before the game summary.
End of story.

They had a better QB and receivers against a weak secondary. We now have some talent in the secondary but they are just now out of hs. All year long I said secondary and especially safeties. Also thought we would lose more than one conf game which could have easily happened.

UT had a great year. Wash deserved to win.
Still had a chance to win a game against the worst possible mismatch out of the 3.
And Sark gotta do the work on play calling. Getting too fancy with a team we could clearly run against.
Losing Brooks at RB really hurt imo. No complaints on the level of talent. It’s getting close to Mack’s best teams.
The depth is there now. Just gotta get elevated QB play and another d lineman. We are losing at least two good ones to the draft. This will be UTs most drafted team since probably 2007. Maybe even better.

[DMX7]

Doesnt make them the better team,,,,just the better team that day.

So what? Then maybe on another day Alabama beats Michigan and Texas beats Washington. They were basically toss up games that went down to the wire.

[pgardn]

So what? Then maybe on another day Alabama beats Michigan and Texas beats Washington. They were basically toss up games that went down to the wire.

The games were evenly matched which was nice for the viewer.
I do expect Michigan to try and ram the ball down Washington’s throat.
We were getting huge holes opened up.

[HemisfairArena]

So what? Then maybe on another day Alabama beats Michigan and Texas beats Washington. They were basically toss up games that went down to the wire.

I thought the goal was to get the best 4 teams in the playoffs,,,,Georgia was one of the best 4 teams easily,,,,silly me for thinking that,,,,

[FrostKing]

14-0 vs 14-0 makes me feel better bout the snub

Did anyone really want to see Bama backdoor into the Title game? Alot of conflicting feelings. Ultimately it feels like things fell fairly.

[playblair]

14-0 vs 14-0 makes me feel better bout the snub

Did anyone really want to see Bama backdoor into the Title game? Alot of conflicting feelings. Ultimately it feels like things fell fairly.
no it didnt.......one team has 10 6th year players the other has a cheating scandal.........this seasons winner has an asterisk

[FrostKing]

no it didnt.......one team has 10 6th year players the other has a cheating scandal.........this seasons winner has an asterisk
Late 90s-mid 2010s was the glory days


2 best NC games of my lifetime
2002 Miami FL vs tOSU
2005 Southern Cal vs Texas

FSU vs Vick
Rise of Saban, LSU, SEC
Oklahoma won but usual whipping boy
Urban Meyer

[JamStone]

no it didnt.......one team has 10 6th year players the other has a cheating scandal.........this seasons winner has an asterisk

I think that’s both fair and unfair.

The Michigan cheating scandal broke in the middle of the season, the team lost their head coach for 2 three game stretches. The wins against Penn State at Happy Valley, against Ohio State and Alabama were all after the sign stealing report came out. So Michigan would be obnoxiously ignorant to continue to try to steal signs AND Penn State, Ohio State, and Alabama would have to be immensely ignorant not to change their signs, plus do all they could to prevent any sign stealing. So if you want to accuse Michigan’s success the previous two years of being asterisked because of cheating, I wouldn’t fight you on it. But if you say this season’s success was a product of cheating, I’d fight you on it to the extent that you can’t really argue they gained any sort of advantage from cheating against Penn State, Ohio State, or Alabama.

Regardless, if that’s how you feel, that’s your prerogative.

Huskies offense is pretty scary. Michigan will have to put up points tonight imo. And they can’t just rely on the running game. I think 30+ points is necessary to win. Of course, I’m rooting for Michigan.

Huskies 30
Wolverines 34

[FrostKing]

I think that’s both fair and unfair.

The Michigan cheating scandal broke in the middle of the season, the team lost their head coach for 2 three game stretches. The wins against Penn State at Happy Valley, against Ohio State and Alabama were all after the sign stealing report came out. So Michigan would be obnoxiously ignorant to continue to try to steal signs AND Penn State, Ohio State, and Alabama would have to be immensely ignorant not to change their signs, plus do all they could to prevent any sign stealing. So if you want to accuse Michigan’s success the previous two years of being asterisked because of cheating, I wouldn’t fight you on it. But if you say this season’s success was a product of cheating, I’d fight you on it to the extent that you can’t really argue they gained any sort of advantage from cheating against Penn State, Ohio State, or Alabama.

Regardless, if that’s how you feel, that’s your prerogative.

Huskies offense is pretty scary. Michigan will have to put up points tonight imo. And they can’t just rely on the running game. I think 30+ points is necessary to win. Of course, I’m rooting for Michigan.

Huskies 30
Wolverines 34
Haha. He's fallen off the rocker.


I'm 49er Harbaugh and had Michigan sweatshirt in middle school

The cheating is over blown but NCAA had to step in as Michigan is headline program. And it was rightfully dealt with.

Washington was run over by Texas and struggled to run against Longhorns. Unfortunately that will repeat itself

Michigan won't crap the bed on special teams again

Viewer wants: Washington goes up early and Michigan is forced to go out their comfort zone towards a Championship

[pgardn]

I thought the goal was to get the best 4 teams in the playoffs,,,,Georgia was one of the best 4 teams easily,,,,silly me for thinking that,,,,

The team that was the last seed to get in was Alabama.
Who beat Georgia by just playing better.

Its not silly you, its just stupid YOU.
This is a horrible argument for FSU getting ripped off.
So you have failed in your attempt. Please dont try again.
There are much clearer arguments.

If you want to go by Vegas odds between a certain number of teams to decide who belongs just say it. Georgia lost THE WEEK before the playoffs to the number 4 seed in the playoffs. So tell us Vegas knows how to determine the best 4 teams, dont tell us YOU know how to do it.

[FrostKing]

Peter
Pdub
Warrick

Was on the same staff as Lavernous Coles & Randy Moss.

[benefactor]

Welp, it was a good run Washington

[FkLA]

McCarthy is the corniest mf I've ever seen. Those pre game rituals are so cringe :lol

[Mark Celibate]

If the criteria is being able to go from place to place (including college to/from the NFL) and consistently win, I think you could seriously make a case that Jim Harbaugh is the best coach of all-time. All he needed was that championship.

1) Went to San Diego and immediately made them elite. Back to back 11-1 seasons his 2nd and 3rd year
2) Went to Stanford, who were Pac-10 doormats and got them to 11-1 with their first ever BCS bowl victory. If they played Oregon at home vs on the road that year, maybe they beat them and end up in the Championship game
3) Went to the NFL and turned the 49ers (also a dumpster fire at the time) into an immediate championship contender. They had three straight seasons where they were extremely close to getting atleast one Superbowl victory. Honestly, any of those three seasons a bounce here or there could've given them the title
4) Goes to Michigan, who had been OSU's b!tch and mediocre for what seemed like forever. Completely turned the table after a few years and finally got his first title

Can't think of any other coach that has been able to do it so quickly at both levels consistently, and coming into situations to where every team was ranging between terrible and mediocre at best. Only knock I guess you could say is that he's been a short timer before coming to UM and some would say he wears out his welcome quickly. Other guys like Saban and Bellichick that are unanimously in the GOAT talks, have clearly struggled when they aren't in ideal conditions tbh

[FrostKing]

Washington played poorly

Michigan tightened up after last week. Played mistake free.

Wolverines deserved it. Washington crapped the bed

[HemisfairArena]

Now play the real national championship,,,,Michigan vs Georgia. And I'll tell you right now, the odds makers would have a very hard time making Michigan the favorite in that game. Georgia would have curb stomped Washington just like Michigan did.

[lebomb]

Now play the real national championship,,,,Michigan vs Georgia. And I'll tell you right now, the odds makers would have a very hard time making Michigan the favorite in that game. Georgia would have curb stomped Washington just like Michigan did.

We will never know, but Michigan seemed like a team of destiny. Also, Georgia as good as they were looked suspect at times. I think if Michigan and Georgia would have played, Michigan still would have won. They had more to play for IMHO.

[monosylab1k]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9iYm9PEAHg

[Neo.]

If the criteria is being able to go from place to place (including college to/from the NFL) and consistently win, I think you could seriously make a case that Jim Harbaugh is the best coach of all-time. All he needed was that championship.

1) Went to San Diego and immediately made them elite. Back to back 11-1 seasons his 2nd and 3rd year
2) Went to Stanford, who were Pac-10 doormats and got them to 11-1 with their first ever BCS bowl victory. If they played Oregon at home vs on the road that year, maybe they beat them and end up in the Championship game
3) Went to the NFL and turned the 49ers (also a dumpster fire at the time) into an immediate championship contender. They had three straight seasons where they were extremely close to getting atleast one Superbowl victory. Honestly, any of those three seasons a bounce here or there could've given them the title
4) Goes to Michigan, who had been OSU's b!tch and mediocre for what seemed like forever. Completely turned the table after a few years and finally got his first title

Can't think of any other coach that has been able to do it so quickly at both levels consistently, and coming into situations to where every team was ranging between terrible and mediocre at best. Only knock I guess you could say is that he's been a short timer before coming to UM and some would say he wears out his welcome quickly. Other guys like Saban and Bellichick that are unanimously in the GOAT talks, have clearly struggled when they aren't in ideal conditions tbh

jimmy

[Mark Celibate]

jimmy

oh yeah that’s a good one, forget about him tbh

[Blake]

Jimmy Johnson? He didn't exactly kill it at Oklahoma St and he had Barry.

He also had Marino at Miami. I think college level you have to be able to be a bad ass recruiter and have to almost micromanage your staff.

[monosylab1k]

Jimmy was definitely pre-Barry at Okie State, but yeah his stint there isn’t all that memorable. Although it was still overall a step up for the program. Seems like he set the table pretty well before heading to Miami.

His Dolphins run is really the one true negative on his resume, as you could tell he wasn’t fully committed like he was in Dallas. He just put in the requisite amount of time, and then spent the rest of his day chilling on his boat with a Heineken.

[Blake]

Ah yeah Jimmy was already gone when Barry was there.

[GAustex]

The King is dead
Long live the King

[FrostKing]

Saban rather quit than coach that QB another season :lol

[JamStone]

Respect for retiring while still seemingly in his coaching prime and after one of his better coaching seasons with a younger, less experienced team. As opposed to waiting for the game to really pass him by and the fanbase calling for his head.

Still, F Bama. I hope they go into a shithole for a decade.

[GAustex]

Sark to the Tide?
Could be a thing

[benefactor]

Sark to the Tide?
Could be a thing
Why would he do that? Texas is headed to the SEC next year with the number three recruiting class in the nation. And Arch Manning. He isn't going anywhere

[DMX7]

Sark to the Tide?
Could be a thing

I doubt it. I think he prefers Austin. Besides, what is there that he really doesn't have at Texas?

[GAustex]

Well I stirred the pot after reading an article that listed him as one of few being considered.
Why would he? Bama has a better more successful program and he used to be there?

[GAustex]

Florida State Hit With Costly Sanctions Due To NIL Violations By NCAA

[Blake]

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[Thread]

Sark to the Tide?
Could be a thing

Sanders as well has emerged today.

Though, I wouldn't hit a dog in the ass with him.

I can't imagine Sark moving after 10-3.

I would take Urban Myer...faster than a rabbit gets fucked.

[Thread]

Fuck me. Up in Washington State, that Debore fellow.

The days of wine & roses has come to an end. A barren wast land is before us.

[FrostKing]

Bama's new coach Kalen DeBoer - closest he's coached to the South is... Indiana :lol

This might be a disaster.

[pgardn]

Well I stirred the pot after reading an article that listed him as one of few being considered.
Why would he? Bama has a better more successful program and he used to be there?

Read about his family and his wife now.
No way his wife is going to Tuscaloosa.
California, bigger cities yes. Austin yes.

Sark is basically West Coast. The closest thing to the West Coast in the SEC is Austin.

Well its done. Sark used the list he was on for bargaining the biggest contract for any UT coach.

[pgardn]

Bama's new coach Kalen DeBoer - closest he's coached to the South is... Indiana :lol


This might be a disaster.

In YOUR mind, who would definitely NOT be a disaster after Saban.
This guy is a damn good coach. If the South cant handle him, thats their fault.
Will he have Sabin success, especially after UT and Oklahoma enter, no way. No one is gonna win NC at the rate Saban has.

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