Wemby ROTY watch

[LkrFan]

You’re hurting. I get it.

:lol

[LkrFan]

Damn shame the generational player is nothing but a garbage man statpadding https://scontent-hou1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/422951477_25243583198573689_7038019378971304030_n. jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd5e9f&_nc_ohc=SO28nAFeIn0AX_9BfSU&_nc_ht=scontent-hou1-1.xx&oh=00_AfDy0UcuTcPkaPWGCqjW8mhuR3fp2rLvs6LQDMNaNCmG kw&oe=65B7C010

Reminds me of det MS Paint thread :rollin :lmao :rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Reminds me of det MS Paint thread :rollin :lmao :rollin
:lmao

[JeffDuncan]

Chet is a new Daddy. Victor Holmgren and his Daddy Chet are doing just fine. :lol


Victor Holmgren?? That’s not a basketball name. It sounds like, oh, more of a golf name. Here at the Masters, Victor Holmgren finishes in third place on the leaderboard at five under par. But then, Chet Holmgren sounds like a NASCAR driver.

How’s your Fakers doing? A winning record I’m sure, right? Gotta be, with LeBron.

And how the heck are you keeping Anthony Davis going? Why isn’t he hurt? It’s illegal drugs, isn’t it? It’s okay, you’re among friends, you can tell us.

[cjw]

When Victor has the supporting cast around him that Chet does, he’s going to be in MVP conversations.

Heck, even the three man combo of Wemby + Jones + Vassell is +17.0 in 305 minutes (6.3 full 48 minute NBA game equivalent, so not a small sample size). Jones is purely a serviceable point guard. Think about what happens when they build things out around him.

[JeffDuncan]

Damn shame the generational player is nothing but a garbage man statpadding https://scontent-hou1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/422951477_25243583198573689_7038019378971304030_n. jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd5e9f&_nc_ohc=SO28nAFeIn0AX_9BfSU&_nc_ht=scontent-hou1-1.xx&oh=00_AfDy0UcuTcPkaPWGCqjW8mhuR3fp2rLvs6LQDMNaNCmG kw&oe=65B7C010


No man, look, pay attention. You screwed up there. All a person would have to do with that image is put Chet’s face on the garbage bag, and you’re out of luck. You’ve foolishly set it up to very easily give the opposite result from what you intended.

If you want to be a good troll, don’t give the opposition such an easy setup. Be more careful.

[MultiTroll]

Was Victors final jam attempt overkill?
He missed it badly. Looked like he was trying wayy too hard to posterise Chet.

Networks phucked up and had the Spurs game on like 3 differing feeds as the game went on.
So my recording didn't include the late 4th.

[baseline bum]

Reminds me of det MS Paint thread :rollin :lmao :rollin

https://image.ibb.co/dOhuV5/lkrfan.png

[Rocalcio]

Damn shame the generational player is nothing but a garbage man statpadding https://scontent-hou1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/422951477_25243583198573689_7038019378971304030_n. jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd5e9f&_nc_ohc=SO28nAFeIn0AX_9BfSU&_nc_ht=scontent-hou1-1.xx&oh=00_AfDy0UcuTcPkaPWGCqjW8mhuR3fp2rLvs6LQDMNaNCmG kw&oe=65B7C010

Damn, you’re pretty good at this, well done !

The funny thing is that if you were given the opportunity to get Wembanyama, you’d do it in a heartbeat. Stop embarrassing yourself

[djohn2oo8]

Damn, you’re pretty good at this, well done !

The funny thing is that if you were given the opportunity to get Wembanyama, you’d do it in a heartbeat. Stop embarrassing yourself
Hindsight, obviously not. Struggling to even win 9 games. He’s just an average rookie.

[spurraider21]

Hindsight, obviously not. Struggling to even win 9 games. He’s just an average rookie.
you must have had a rough couple of days since you've been pushing this shtick pretty aggressively

the reason the shtick doesnt work is because there isnt a single fan on this board who has anything resembling second thoughts with wemby

compare on the other hand to the legendary summer of your Michael Jordan alt shitting on the lakers and dwight howard and whatnot after a disaster season where everything came apart, kirby tore his achilles, #stayD12, etc etc

you need some actual sting behind the shtick

[objective]

I'm still shocked about how many haters Wemby has in the ROTY contest who are STILL insisting that Holmgren has it locked up

Simmons, Reddik, Vecenie, ...

But the biggest hater of all is Tim Bontemps. During every podcast with Windhorst he goes above and beyond to trash Wemby even when there's no reason to or conversation, he'll just interrupt Windhorst even mentioning Wemby to trash talk him.

Among all the NBA media, he might be the biggest Holmgren groupie. There might be an unhealthy, off the court obsession going on.

[Pauleta14]

It's 2024 guys... you still feed the trolls??

[Mugen]

Is this still a convo? Why is Wemby still being compared to this fucking role player? :lol

[TD 21]

I'm still shocked about how many haters Wemby has in the ROTY contest who are STILL insisting that Holmgren has it locked up

Simmons, Reddik, Vecenie, ...

But the biggest hater of all is Tim Bontemps. During every podcast with Windhorst he goes above and beyond to trash Wemby even when there's no reason to or conversation, he'll just interrupt Windhorst even mentioning Wemby to trash talk him.

Among all the NBA media, he might be the biggest Holmgren groupie. There might be an unhealthy, off the court obsession going on.

Bontemps is about as unlikeable as they come period. Arrogant, know it all, who's constantly pushing his agenda (Nurse/Craptors fanboy and Lakers hater). To be fair, that's a common occurrence in today's media. MacMahon, for example, slurps every white player and hates the Spurs.

Those two, Simmons, Lowe, Wilbon, Smith, etc. decided a few weeks in that they were giving it to Holmgren, despite utilizing criteria that as recently as last season didn't apply.

The media is sick of foreigners running the league and desperately wants a (specifically white) American (hence the Edwards push) to be in that mix. They also hate the Spurs, because they've refused to play the game within' the game behind the scenes.

[RedAzSa]

Wemby just overtook Chet as the favorite in the betting odds. The money is shifting.

[baseline bum]

I'm still shocked about how many haters Wemby has in the ROTY contest who are STILL insisting that Holmgren has it locked up

Simmons, Reddik, Vecenie, ...

But the biggest hater of all is Tim Bontemps. During every podcast with Windhorst he goes above and beyond to trash Wemby even when there's no reason to or conversation, he'll just interrupt Windhorst even mentioning Wemby to trash talk him.

Among all the NBA media, he might be the biggest Holmgren groupie. There might be an unhealthy, off the court obsession going on.

I think it's funny people act like Chet should win it for his efficiency while Wemby has a PER higher than Chet's (21.7 vs 20.5).

[Barfunk]

Struggling to even win 9 games.

:pop:

[GB20]

Damn shame the generational player is nothing but a garbage man statpadding https://scontent-hou1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/422951477_25243583198573689_7038019378971304030_n. jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dd5e9f&_nc_ohc=SO28nAFeIn0AX_9BfSU&_nc_ht=scontent-hou1-1.xx&oh=00_AfDy0UcuTcPkaPWGCqjW8mhuR3fp2rLvs6LQDMNaNCmG kw&oe=65B7C010
Victor has been in the NBA two months and he is already in your head. He is going to make your life miserable for the next 15 years.

[LkrFan]

https://image.ibb.co/dOhuV5/lkrfan.png

Dude :rollin :cry :rollin

[LkrFan]

Victor Holmgren?? That’s not a basketball name. It sounds like, oh, more of a golf name. Here at the Masters, Victor Holmgren finishes in third place on the leaderboard at five under par. But then, Chet Holmgren sounds like a NASCAR driver.

How’s your Fakers doing? A winning record I’m sure, right? Gotta be, with LeBron.

And how the heck are you keeping Anthony Davis going? Why isn’t he hurt? It’s illegal drugs, isn’t it? It’s okay, you’re among friends, you can tell us.

:lol

We cannot judge these Lakers until after we trade for Dejounte. :downspin:

[Jordan Jackson]

I'm still shocked about how many haters Wemby has in the ROTY contest who are STILL insisting that Holmgren has it locked up

Simmons, Reddik, Vecenie, ...

But the biggest hater of all is Tim Bontemps. During every podcast with Windhorst he goes above and beyond to trash Wemby even when there's no reason to or conversation, he'll just interrupt Windhorst even mentioning Wemby to trash talk him.

Among all the NBA media, he might be the biggest Holmgren groupie. There might be an unhealthy, off the court obsession going on.

They’re trying to give him an award for a hot streak he had in November into early December. Those numbers were not realistic or sustainable. Come on 56% from 3? His numbers are normalizing - some of them have flat out fallen. That’s why you’re seeing a swing in the betting market. Everyone knows.

People like Bontemps and his dude bros podcast buddies melting down because they refuse to admit they were wrong.

Only argument they have left is team record because they know he cannot catch him there.

[thiste]

Refusing to admit they were wrong, absolutely. I also think there's a trend among « pundits » to go against the grain to justify their position, like they're seeing something the lowly masses aren't seeing.

Chet landed in a perfect situation for him, OKC was already pretty good and in an upward trajectory and he's exactly the player they were missing. As a rookie, you can't hope for better luck honestly. Sure, props to Presti as well for drafting the right players. So of course he's gonna over-perform.

He's not the only "perfect fit" rookie btw, and oh surprise, they're over-performing as well. I'm talking about Derek Lively in Dallas or Jaime Jaquez in Miami.

[Frenchfred]

Hindsight, obviously not. Struggling to even win 9 games. He’s just an average rookie.

so you still have not improved your personal life and continue this pathetic waste of time? What a low life, but thanks it’s entertaining :lol. I knew that Houston was a sh!thole city but you are confirming that its people are also losers.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqj_Mj2194

[kace]

Refusing to admit they were wrong, absolutely. I also think there's a trend among « pundits » to go against the grain to justify their position, like they're seeing something the lowly masses aren't seeing.

Without any doubt. It works the same way here in France. The main goal of most of these analysts is to justify their presence. And being measured and consistent is not the best way to create a buzz


Chet landed in a perfect situation for him, OKC was already pretty good and in an upward trajectory and he's exactly the player they were missing. As a rookie, you can't hope for better luck honestly. Sure, props to Presti as well for drafting the right players. So of course he's gonna over-perform.

To be honest, Chet is clearly the kind of palyer who'd fit everywhere. Smart, disciplined, gifted, good shooter, can play inside, outside, rebounder, well rounded defender.... he's a great rookie, nothing less.

But of course, if you'd put him on a bad team where he would be the main focus, it would be a different story. To have to anchor the defense AND be the main offensive threat at the same time for your rookie year is quite unusual i guess.
We kind of expected Victor to be our best defensive player right away, but not by such a margin.
but we also definitely expected him to have more help offensively, even If Vassel (18 ppg) and KJ (16.7) fill out the stat sheet somehow......

[exstatic]

Chet is a new Daddy. Victor Holmgren and his Daddy Chet are doing just fine. :lol


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Chet’s lot in life is going to be becoming Dominique to Victor’s MJ, a really nice All Star versus the One.

[rjv]

pretty decent breakdown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ShgXpSUldw

[daslicer]

Chet’s lot in life is going to be becoming Dominique to Victor’s MJ, a really nice All Star versus the One.

I view this rookie race between Victor and Chet similar to '93 when it was Shaq and Alonzo. Alonzo was very good as a rookie, but it was clear Shaq was on another level. Victor is Shaq and Chet is Alonzo.

[TheBallsbreakers]

I view this rookie race between Victor and Chet similar to '93 when it was Shaq and Alonzo. Alonzo was very good as a rookie, but it was clear Shaq was on another level. Chet is Shaq and Victor is Alonzo.
WTF?

[daslicer]

WTF?

I had a typo I meant to say Victor is Shaq and Chet is Alonzo.

[baseline bum]

I had a typo I meant to say Victor is Shaq and Chet is Alonzo.

Though I'm expecting Chet to be quite a bit better than Zo. He's already on a Kevin Garnett level trajectory.

[Mugen]

Though I'm expecting Chet to be quite a bit better than Zo. He's already on a Kevin Garnett level trajectory.

Nah - you're not giving it to Chet to get you a bucket. He's being spoon fed by an MVP candidate and a 2nd year star on offense. He's a great defender but I'm not seeing a KG like offensive ceiling tbh.

[Frenchfred]

Nah - you're not giving it to Chet to get you a bucket. He's being spoon fed by an MVP candidate and a 2nd year star on offense. He's a great defender but I'm not seeing a KG like offensive ceiling tbh.

at the same time, Victor’s better numbers in January are the results of his teammates finding him for easy dunks.

chet is a better three point shooter than KG already. KG was not an instant star when he came into the league.

[baseline bum]

Nah - you're not giving it to Chet to get you a bucket. He's being spoon fed by an MVP candidate and a 2nd year star on offense. He's a great defender but I'm not seeing a KG like offensive ceiling tbh.

Chet is an elite shooter and was at Gonzaga too. Just because he's not as good as Wemby doesn't mean he can't have a hell of a high ceiling. He's not a role player and I think he will win an MVP at some point, health permitting.

[DAF86]

Chet is an elite shooter and was at Gonzaga too. Just because he's not as good as Wemby doesn't mean he can't have a hell of a high ceiling. He's not a role player and I think he will win an MVP at some point, health permitting.

Nah, I don't see Holmgren ever developing his game to the point of becoming a true #1 option, which is what he would need to ever be the MVP.

[baseline bum]

Nah, I don't see Holmgren ever developing his game to the point of becoming a true #1 option, which is what he would need to ever be the MVP.

Why not? He's an elite shooter with good athleticism who is agile as hell, can put the ball on floor, and is a good clean up man at the rim. Where would you put Holmgren's trade value then? If I'm Presti there's only three guys in the league I'd trade Chet for: Victor, Giannis, or Jokic. Would be really tempted on Embiid too but his injury history would probably scare me off.

[DAF86]

Why not? He's an elite shooter with good athleticism who is agile as hell, can put the ball on floor, and is a good clean up man at the rim. Where would you put Holmgren's trade value then? If I'm Presti there's only three guys in the league I'd trade Chet for: Victor, Giannis, or Jokic. Would be really tempted on Embiid too but his injury history would probably scare me off.

Trade value is different to becoming the MVP. Chet might have more trade value than SGA, because it is harder to find a player with Chet's skillset, but Chet would never be the #1 option over SGA on a team.

[baseline bum]

Trade value is different to becoming the MVP. Chet might have more trade value than SGA, because it is harder to find a player with Chet's skillset, but Chet would never be the #1 option over SGA on a team.

I think he'll be the #1 option over SGA in 2-3 years.

[DAF86]

I think he'll be the #1 option over SGA in 2-3 years.

Nah, I don't see it. I didn't follow Chet on college. Was he a number one option? Has he ever displayed flashes of self-creation? So far all I see from him comes from what other create for him, or broken plays. I never seen him get the ball in the post, or the elbow and create something.

[LeBowen]

I think he'll be the #1 option over SGA in 2-3 years.

I don't think a player that's not capable of consistantly scoring from any situation can be the first option in modern game.
AD being the best example. Top5 player in the league at his peak, but neither his post nor face up game was good enough for him to be the traditional first option. Always needed an elite playmaker next to him.
Chet seems similar.

Even though Victor's handles are way too loose and erratic right now, he's got all the moves needed and looks like a wing scorer when facing up.
Chet looks like your average big that can make a few dribbles. And he'll obviously never be good as a post scorer due to his build.
Victor needs to put on some more muscle, but he looks like the Admiral next to Chet.

Anyhow, it seems that OKC has their 1A/1B option if they can stay injury free.

[baseline bum]

Nah, I don't see it. I didn't follow Chet on college. Was he a number one option? Has he ever displayed flashes of self-creation? So far all I see from him comes from what other create for him, or broken plays. I never seen him get the ball in the post, or the elbow and create something.

You don't think Chet can create for himself with how good he is attacking the rim? He has a tremendous advantage playing on a team that runs a real offense but no way the season he's having is just reflected glory off SGA.

[DAF86]

You don't think Chet can create for himself with how good he is attacking the rim? He has a tremendous advantage playing on a team that runs a real offense but no way the season he's having is just reflected glory off SGA.

One thing is attacking the rim after somebody else already collapsed the defense and another entirely different is getting the ball at the beggining of a posession to create something from scratch. So far, I've never seen OKC give the ball to Chet to create something. Even rookie Manu was given the ball on the wings to run some pick and rolls, because Pop could see that Manu had that in him.

[LeBowen]

You don't think Chet can create for himself with how good he is attacking the rim? He has a tremendous advantage playing on a team that runs a real offense but no way the season he's having is just reflected glory off SGA.

It's not just SGA and real offense, their spacing is amazing.
Everyone is at least a solid shooter, they're #2 in 3pt% at 39% on 33 attempts per game.

Meanwhile, Spurs are 29th. :rolleyes

[Mugen]

at the same time, Victor’s better numbers in January are the results of his teammates finding him for easy dunks.

chet is a better three point shooter than KG already. KG was not an instant star when he came into the league.


Chet is an elite shooter and was at Gonzaga too. Just because he's not as good as Wemby doesn't mean he can't have a hell of a high ceiling. He's not a role player and I think he will win an MVP at some point, health permitting.

I'm not denying that Chet has a high ceiling but it isn't anywhere near KG peak tbh. I'm pretty damn sure he'll never even finish top 5 in MVP.

He's not even the 2nd best player on this team tbh, Jalen Williams has a higher ceiling IMO.

[baseline bum]

I'm not denying that Chet has a high ceiling but it isn't anywhere near KG peak tbh. I'm pretty damn sure he'll never even finish top 5 in MVP.

He's not even the 2nd best player on this team tbh, Jalen Williams has a higher ceiling IMO.

Think I'd put Chet's offensive ceiling above KG's, maybe more like on Dirk's level. I just don't see this see role player talk with him given his skillset, length, and athleticism.

[kace]

Chet is definitely able to score alone, he does it here and then. Not his fault if his team is good enough that he doesn't need to do that on a constant basis.

We can't say either than Wemby is ultra efficient when he has to attack one on one.

Victor is amazing and he is having a better season than Holmgren on an individual aspect, which should be the point of the ROTY title.

But Holmgen is a great player in the making. Hard to know for sure, but he totally seems on track to be a franchise player or 1a/1b with SGA.

But hey, after all, people were saying that Lebron was a beta, that he should stay in a Pippen role with Wade as MJ or stuff like that till he was able to win as the clear best player of his team

[kace]

Think I'd put Chet's offensive ceiling above KG's, maybe more like on Dirk's level. I just don't see this see role player talk with him given his skillset, length, and athleticism.

Victor has an usage rate above 30, right there with the other franchise players in that category.

Holmgren is at 21, which is very honorable for a rookie, but which corresponds more to a second or third option.

I guess that's why it's easier for some people to envision Victor as a first option than Holmgren.

But it has more to do with the fact that OKC is a way better team and has way better players than us than with the limitations of Holmgren. He has the usage rate that he has to have this season and it will probably increase the next years.

[DAF86]

Think I'd put Chet's offensive ceiling above KG's, maybe more like on Dirk's level. I just don't see this see role player talk with him given his skillset, length, and athleticism.


Chet is definitely able to score alone, he does it here and then. Not his fault if his team is good enough that he doesn't need to do that on a constant basis.

We can't say either than Wemby is ultra efficient when he has to attack one on one.

Victor is amazing and he is having a better season than Holmgren on an individual aspect, which should be the point of the ROTY title.

But Holmgen is a great player in the making. Hard to know for sure, but he totally seems on track to be a franchise player or 1a/1b with SGA.

But hey, after all, people were saying that Lebron was a beta, that he should stay in a Pippen role with Wade as MJ or stuff like that till he was able to win as the clear best player of his team

At the 10:51 mark they talk about Chet's self creation as a weakness/question mark.

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We just haven't seen him prove he can be a #1 option at any level yet. Not saying he can't do it, but I will have to see it to believe it, tbh. At least flashes here and there were OKC says "here, get the ball and get me a bucket". Predicting a Dirk type scorer is too wild of a prediction, imho.

[SpursBills]

Chet is going to be awesome. The fact that he is going to be looking up at Wemby for the rest of his career is going to push him to be better than he otherwise would. I think the modern KG comp is actually pretty good - KG was less skinny and shot pretty well on long 2s which stylistically fits with mid 2000s ball while Chet is skinnier and shoots 3s better which stylistically fits with the modern NBA. While KG was technically a first option, his option role was as a #2 on offense and defensive anchor which is probably what Chet's role is going forward. I've got no hate for the guy - hope both he and Wemby stay healthy for their entire careers. If so, that NBA's in good hands moving forward.

[kace]

At the 10:51 mark they talk about Chet's self creation as a weakness/question mark.

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We just haven't seen him prove he can be a #1 option at any level yet. Not saying he can't do it, but I will have to see it to believe it, tbh. At least flashes here and there were OKC says "here, get the ball and get me a bucket". Predicting a Dirk type scorer is too wild of a prediction, imho.

i think people are too harsh with rookies this year, especially Victor and Chet. Did they forget at which level the current best players were their first season ?

anyway, 25 % of Holmgren made shots are unassisted.

Victor is at 26%.

Embiid is at 44%, Giannis at 49, Curry at 52, Tatum at 50, Doncic at 80.

Don't see too much difference here. Would be interesting to see the shooting percentage according to the category of the shots (from a pass or created). don't know if i'm clear or if this stats exists.

[Seventyniner]

We just haven't seen him prove he can be a #1 option at any level yet. Not saying he can't do it, but I will have to see it to believe it, tbh. At least flashes here and there were OKC says "here, get the ball and get me a bucket". Predicting a Dirk type scorer is too wild of a prediction, imho.

Right. Can Wemby be a high end #1 option? Yes. Can Chet be one? Inconclusive.

[DAF86]

i think people are too harsh with rookies this year, especially Victor and Chet. Did they forget at which level the current best players were their first season ?

anyway, 25 % of Holmgren made shots are unassisted.

Victor is at 26%.

Embiid is at 44%, Giannis at 49, Curry at 52, Tatum at 50, Doncic at 80.

Don't see too much difference here. Would be interesting to see the shooting percentage according to the category of the shots (from a pass or created). don't know if i'm clear or if this stats exists.

I don't think saying is a bit wild to expect Dirk type scoring from Chet is being harsh on him, tbh. :lol

I love Chet's game, but I just don't see him as a primary offensive option. All the great rookies throught history have come to the league and were given playmaking obligations from day 1, of course most (if not all) of them suffered with efficiency, but at least all of them got to prove they had playmaking abilities. Chet hasn't had the chance to prove that yet, and I don't know if he has it, because he didn't show it in college either.

[spursparker9]

Chet with 20 pts 13 rebs 2 blks win against Pelicans

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RjyeVg523vg

[onechance87]

Chet with 20 pts 13 rebs 2 blks win against Pelicans

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RjyeVg523vg

wemby on pace to have a big game today....Hopefully pop wont fuck it up for him sitting him on the bench

[MannyIsGod]

That was one of Wemby's worst halves of basketball and his game stats are still good.

[exstatic]

You don't think Chet can create for himself with how good he is attacking the rim? He has a tremendous advantage playing on a team that runs a real offense but no way the season he's having is just reflected glory off SGA.

If they do, they’re surrendering team supremacy to the Spurs. He’ll never be able to effectively score on Wemby, which will limit the team.

[Splits]

https://i.ibb.co/0jZqjz4/image.png

[CorrectCrusader]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy6q5widk5c

[Thomas82]

Well, OKC got spanked by Detroit today, and Chet had 9 points and 12 rebounds. And let's see if anybody gives Chet hell for Jalen Duren seeing 20-20 today (22 points, 21 rebounds).

[Das Texan]

Well, OKC got spanked by Detroit today, and Chet had 9 points and 12 rebounds. And let's see if anybody gives Chet hell for Jalen Duren seeing 20-20 today (22 points, 21 rebounds).

Chet comes off as a nice little beta. Not much Alpha dog in him.

As long as he isnt relied upon to be the Alpha Dog on his team long term, they can succeed, but holy hell if he needs to be the Alpha....things could get ugly fast.

[Fizziksman]

Well, OKC got spanked by Detroit today, and Chet had 9 points and 12 rebounds. And let's see if anybody gives Chet hell for Jalen Duren seeing 20-20 today (22 points, 21 rebounds).

glorified Raef LeFrentz

[scott]

https://i.ibb.co/0jZqjz4/image.png

Basically, everyone but basketball talking heads have taken note that Wemby is running away with it

[thiste]

Victor:
Season — 20.5 PPG | 10.1 RPG | 3.1 APG | 1.1 SPG | 3.1 BPG | 46.5/30.5/80 FG% — 28.5 MIN
January — 24.4 PPG | 9.7 RPG | 3.3 APG | 0.8 SPG | 3.2 BPG | 51.2/33.9/81.1 FG% — 26.1 MIN

Chet:
Season — 17 PPG | 7.5 RPG | 2.7 APG | 0.6 SPG | 2.5 BPG | 53.8/37.8/77.3 FG% — 30 MIN
January — 15.5 PPG | 6.9 RPG | 3.2 APG | 0.5 SPG | 2.3 BPG | 52.8/33.3/59 FG% — 30.2 MIN

Victor is progressing, Chet is regressing.

Repost from other thread. Victor is now producing 9 more points in 4 minutes less this month. Not even taking all the other stats into account (percentages are closing FAST!), this « race » isn't even close anymore.
Sure, they'll tell you it's not about one month, it's about the entire season. But there's an argument for one guy separating himself from the other, I'm sorry.

[DAF86]

25 pts in 26 minutes is crazy.

[thiste]

Tonight:
Victor — 22 PTS | 11 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 3 BLK | 47.4/0/100 FG% — 30:46 MIN
Chet — 4 PTS | 7 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 3 BLK | 22.2/0/0 FG% — 32:00 MIN

[djohn2oo8]

you must have had a rough couple of days since you've been pushing this shtick pretty aggressively

the reason the shtick doesnt work is because there isnt a single fan on this board who has anything resembling second thoughts with wemby

compare on the other hand to the legendary summer of your Michael Jordan alt shitting on the lakers and dwight howard and whatnot after a disaster season where everything came apart, kirby tore his achilles, #stayD12, etc etc

you need some actual sting behind the shtick
Another loss from Victor Porzingis. 7 foot 4 and big pussy ass chucking shots.

[FkLA]

Another loss from Victor Porzingis. 7 foot 4 and big pussy ass chucking shots.

shut up faggot

[Mr. Body]

Tonight:
Victor — 22 PTS | 11 REB | 4 AST | 1 STL | 3 BLK | 47.4/0/100 FG% — 30:46 MIN
Chet — 4 PTS | 7 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 3 BLK | 22.2/0/0 FG% — 32:00 MIN

Chet is helpless against big guys like Duren and Gobert. In fact got obliterated by them two games in a row. OkC's scheme of playing him as the lone big doesn't do them any favors.

[Mr. Body]

shut up faggot

Stop with the slurs you fucking child.

[baseline bum]

Chet is helpless against big guys like Duren and Gobert. In fact got obliterated by them two games in a row. OkC's scheme of playing him as the lone big doesn't do them any favors.

I wouldn't overreact, dude's still a HOF talent having a monster rookie season. He just ain't Victor.

[djohn2oo8]

He’s got statpadder of the year on lock.

[Mr. Body]

I wouldn't overreact, dude's still a HOF talent having a monster rookie season. He just ain't Victor.

Nothing I said is untrue. He struggles with strong bigs and OKC's scheme does him no favors. How is that an overreaction?

[z0sa]

Chet's fading, Wemby's star is rising (in the ROTY matchup). The fake ankle injury minute restrictions from Wemby has really been a ploy to improve his conditioning while assuaging the big man's ego/desire to win, I bet.

[DAF86]

Interesting video, aside from the incorrect/out of context Vic translation.

M07juODV4ro?si=S6cbi3WO8ZXX9BJX

[DAF86]

Chet is helpless against big guys like Duren and Gobert. In fact got obliterated by them two games in a row. OkC's scheme of playing him as the lone big doesn't do them any favors.

If they change the scheme to put another big alongside him, the team gets worst. And Chet's numbers probably do too. So I don't think they are doing him any disservice.

[tbdog]

I do think the thunder will get exposed in the playoffs, even a first round exit. Especially if they face a big team. A potential Lakers meet would crush them. Maybe even Pelicans or Jazz would cause an upset. They don't scream like a team that can adapt. Usually a higher seed doesn't need to in the first round. But their weakness is pretty telling.

[Rocalcio]

shut up faggot

You need to ignore him, he’ll get bored if nobody plays his childish game.

[Rocalcio]

Chet just crashed hard against the rookie wall, if Wemby faces any rookie wall, he’ll just step over it.

[spurraider21]

Wemby can play like dogshit and wind up with 20/10/3/3

[SpursFan86]

Think the narrative has firmly flipped at this point…Chet has come back down to earth after his unsustainable efficiency to start the year, meanwhile Wemby has started to hit his stride after moving to C and having Tre put into the starting lineup.

I’m guessing it won’t even be a race by March as long as Victor remains healthy. Not a slight to Chet…just think we’re seeing one of the best rookie seasons of the past 20 years. Really is wild to think that this is likely the worst we’ll ever see from Victor :lol

[onechance87]

Think the narrative has firmly flipped at this point…Chet has come back down to earth after his unsustainable efficiency to start the year, meanwhile Wemby has started to hit his stride after moving to C and having Tre put into the starting lineup.

I’m guessing it won’t even be a race by March as long as Victor remains healthy. Not a slight to Chet…just think we’re seeing one of the best rookie seasons of the past 20 years. Really is wild to think that this is likely the worst we’ll ever see from Victor :lol

cant wait till victor has real talent around him.Hopefully the front office dont fuck this up.

[Mugen]

Wemby can play like dogshit and wind up with 20/10/3/3

Wemby looks tired too. His help D hasn't been crisp the last 5 or so games and he's turning the ball over a lot more, signs of fatigue. But yeah still putting up crazy #s while going through it, that's the difference.

[rjv]

Wemby can play like dogshit and wind up with 20/10/3/3

that's exactly what I was thinking last night; if he can put up these kind of numbers when he's 'meh', what kind of numbers will he start putting up once he gets stronger and more versatile.

[rjv]

Wemby looks tired too. His help D hasn't been crisp the last 5 or so games and he's turning the ball over a lot more, signs of fatigue. But yeah still putting up crazy #s while going through it, that's the difference.

he's been starting off these games strong and then fading down the stretch. one has to wonder if he's starting to hit that "rookie wall".

[baseline bum]

Wemby looks tired too. His help D hasn't been crisp the last 5 or so games and he's turning the ball over a lot more, signs of fatigue. But yeah still putting up crazy #s while going through it, that's the difference.


he's been starting off these games strong and then fading down the stretch. one has to wonder if he's starting to hit that "rookie wall".

LOL the people calling him to play 40 minutes a night. I'm sure it'll take Victor a while to get used to 30 minutes a night on an NBA schedule where you're playing 3-4 times a week. Never really believed the hype about the minutes restriction being because of his ankle, just seemed like some bullshit to get Silver off the team's back for resting Vic in B2B.

[thiste]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M07juODV4ro

[baseline bum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M07juODV4ro

LOL It's Over with 2.5 months left in the season

[Spurminator]

Clickbait videos are the worst.

If your intelligence isn't already insulted by the thumbnail on videos like that, you're probably contributing to the decline of civilization.

[thiste]

Clickbait videos are the worst.

If your intelligence isn't already insulted by the thumbnail on videos like that, you're probably contributing to the decline of civilization.

I absolutely am.

[Spurminator]

I absolutely am.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BOTU0ZGVmY2MtMTM1OS00YmNlLWE1NGUtMGYyMjI1MjY1NW UzXkEyXkFqcGdeQWFybm8@._V1_.jpg

[spurraider21]

worst basketball youtube channel tbh

[baseline bum]

worst basketball youtube channel tbh

What about the guy who gets pissed every time he says "Best prospect since LeBron James"? FlightMike or something.

[spurraider21]

What about the guy who gets pissed every time he says "Best prospect since LeBron James"? FlightMike or something.
not familiar with that one

[baseline bum]

not familiar with that one

He's got even worse clickbait thumbnails :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGudjG6QjBU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai7vUGgRevc

[spurraider21]

:lol reminds me of every video DarrinS posts in the political forum tbh

[LkrFan]

Chet’s lot in life is going to be becoming Dominique to Victor’s MJ, a really nice All Star versus the One.

We'll see. Chet has a really good supporting cast already led by SGA. OKC has a treasure trove of picks to ensure Chet is in the playoffs year after year.

I'm gonna enjoy the Chet vs Wemby rivalry. My hope: Victor gets so tired of losing to Chet that he demands a trade to Tinsletown. :downspin:

[baseline bum]

We'll see. Chet has a really good supporting cast already led by SGA. OKC has a treasure trove of picks to ensure Chet is in the playoffs year after year.

I'm gonna enjoy the Chet vs Wemby rivalry. My hope: Victor gets so tired of losing to Chet that he demands a trade to Tinsletown. :downspin:

Why would he do that? Miami's the one who consistently develops amazing supporting casts and who would be the best franchise for him to go to if he wants to win.

[Jordan Jackson]

Why would he do that? Miami's the one who consistently develops amazing supporting casts and who would be the best franchise for him to go to if he wants to win.

Don’t pay attention to LkrFan. He’s just here trauma dumping. He saw those Vegas odds that have the Spurs as LeBron’s next team when he flees that dumpster fire they got going on over there. Sad times.

[RC_Drunkford]

We'll see. Chet has a really good supporting cast already led by SGA. OKC has a treasure trove of picks to ensure Chet is in the playoffs year after year.

I'm gonna enjoy the Chet vs Wemby rivalry. My hope: Victor gets so tired of losing to Chet that he demands a trade to Tinsletown. :downspin:

Lakers :lol stuck in NBA purgatory for the next decade. Good luck in the play-in :lol

[Robz4000]

Don’t pay attention to LkrFan. He’s just here trauma dumping. He saw those Vegas odds that have the Spurs as LeBron’s next team when he flees that dumpster fire they got going on over there. Sad times.


Lakers :lol stuck in NBA purgatory for the next decade. Good luck in the play-in :lol

It's the Lakers tbh. They'll land Doncic once he tires of Cuban then get another franchise's cornerstone for pennis on the dollar.

[CGD]

It's the Lakers tbh. They'll land Doncic once he tires of Cuban then get another franchise's cornerstone for pennis on the dollar.

Penis on the dollar huh?

NBA always gifts the Lakers another star. Theyll be fine.

[Ocotillo]

Penis on the dollar huh?


I heard the Clippers got Primo the same way.

[baseline bum]

It's the Lakers tbh. They'll land Doncic once he tires of Cuban then get another franchise's cornerstone for pennis on the dollar.

IDK, LeBron is burning that franchise's future to the ground the same way Kobe did on his farewell tour. They should really trade him to Miami for Jaquez and a first and then see if anyone wants to make a PG13 kind of deal for Davis.

[exstatic]

Yeah, the LAL were lost in the wilderness for half a decade with no NBA gift in sight. LeBron only went there to transition into his next career, Hollywood. In the last 30 years, they’ve only signed two franchise guys: Shaq in 96 and LeBron in 2017. Call me in 2038, and we can discuss the next one.

[RC_Drunkford]

there are no free agents anymore. These players sign extensions and then force their way out. The Lakers have one draft pick to trade. They ain't getting shit.

[LkrFan]

Lakers :lol stuck in NBA purgatory for the next decade. Good luck in the play-in :lol

:cry

[LkrFan]

It's the Lakers tbh. They'll land Doncic once he tires of Cuban then get another franchise's cornerstone for pennis on the dollar.

Pause? :lol

[LkrFan]

there are no free agents anymore. These players sign extensions and then force their way out. The Lakers have one draft pick to trade. They ain't getting shit.

RC sound scurred and you should be :lol

Wilt
Kareem
Shaq
Kwame
MVPau
Bron

Which franchise player will be next? :lol

[MannyIsGod]

worst basketball youtube channel tbh

Are there actually any good basketball YouTube channels? They're all pretty shit from what I've seen.

[spurraider21]

Are there actually any good basketball YouTube channels? They're all pretty shit from what I've seen.
Thinking Basketball is currently my favorite

bballbreakdown is still solid

JmxyHighroller is decent too but my least favorite of those 3

there arent really others that i follow. otherwise i just watch game/player highights. ballhog gloves ad forever engrained in my brain

[mudyez]

Thinking Basketball is currently my favorite


+1

[baseline bum]

Thinking Basketball is currently my favorite

bballbreakdown is still solid

JmxyHighroller is decent too but my least favorite of those 3

there arent really others that i follow. otherwise i just watch game/player highights. ballhog gloves ad forever engrained in my brain

Used to love bballbreakdown in The Beautiful Game era when he'd break down a bunch of the Spurs plays. Still a great channel but no reason for him to do Spurs content right now unless he wants to make videos of Keldon or Devin missing Wemby continually tbh.

[DAF86]

Thinking Basketball is currently my favorite

bballbreakdown is still solid

JmxyHighroller is decent too but my least favorite of those 3

there arent really others that i follow. otherwise i just watch game/player highights. ballhog gloves ad forever engrained in my brain

o9XbDCXLE94?si=cRp_9U653p6gA5Iw

[RC_Drunkford]

RC sound scurred and you should be :lol

Wilt
Kareem
Shaq
Kwame
MVPau
Bron

Which franchise player will be next? :lol

Mr. Glass Anthony Davis is the guy you gonna build around :lol

[MannyIsGod]

Thinking Basketball is currently my favorite

bballbreakdown is still solid

JmxyHighroller is decent too but my least favorite of those 3

there arent really others that i follow. otherwise i just watch game/player highights. ballhog gloves ad forever engrained in my brain

I watched a few of Jmxy in the past and I didn't like them but Ill give the other two a shot.

[Brazil]

For a good sum up of the week I like GOAT that's pretty good tbh

[buttsR4rebounding]

I heard the Clippers got Primo the same way.

:lmao

[spursparker9]

Brandon Miller is going crazy for the past 10 games.

[ambchang]

Brandon Miller is going crazy for the past 10 games.

More or less since Ball was off. Lamelo Ball is such a low IQ street baller, I have no idea why people are so high on him. He's like a rich man's Jason Williams.

[baseline bum]

ESPN Bet now has Wemby -800 for ROY
https://espnbet.com/sport/basketball/organization/united-states/competition/nba/section/player_futures

Bovada -500
https://www.bovada.lv/sports/basketball/nba-awards/nba-awards-2023-24-202405241930

[scott]

This race is OVAH

[thiste]

LAST 10 GAMESMINPTSREBASTSTLBLKSHOOTING


Victor Wembanyama28.320.510.14.01.53.248.1/41.7/84.1


Chet Holmgren29.615.58.92.21.02.751.3/43.8/63.6

[scott]

Chet's statline nothing to sneeze at. Nuts that both of these guys are shooting >40% from 3 the last 10 games.

[spurraider21]

Chet's statline nothing to sneeze at. Nuts that both of these guys are shooting >40% from 3 the last 10 games.
chet would be runaway rookie of the year most years tbh

kinda feel bad that his whole career he'll just be compared to wemby. its like being Drexler during Jordan's time (albeit without the whole 'portland passed on jordan because they already had drexler' angle to it)

[thiste]

chet would be runaway rookie of the year most years tbh

kinda feel bad that his whole career he'll just be compared to wemby. its like being Drexler during Jordan's time (albeit without the whole 'portland passed on jordan because they already had drexler' angle to it)

If for some reason OKC had the #1 pick last season, they would never have passed on Wemby because they already had Chet.

[spurraider21]

If for some reason OKC had the #1 pick last season, they would never have passed on Wemby because they already had Chet.
of course. wemby and chet would easily be able to coexist, and you could also stagger them so while they share some time together, you ensure one on the floor at all times

[thiste]

The announcers (with Shaq) saying during the OKC game that Victor has separated himself from Chet for ROTY :lol

[spurraider21]

The announcers (with Shaq) saying during the OKC game that Victor has separated himself from Chet for ROTY :lol
bra shaq still doesnt think wemby has separated from bol bol

[Mr. Body]

I don't think there's a race anymore.

[spursparker9]

Chet with 13 pts 9 rebs 5 blks tonight

[SupremeGuy]

I don't think there's a race anymore.Manufactured shit tbh. Anyone with a fucking pair of eyes and a brain can see that Wemby has been ROY and should be DPOY.

[MI21]

Chet with 13 pts 9 rebs 5 blks tonight

Otherwise known as about 15 minutes work for Wemby.

[thiste]

Manufactured shit tbh. Anyone with a fucking pair of eyes and a brain can see that Wemby has been ROY and should be DPOY.

I think there still are a number of pundits who are of the opinion that it's a close race. And they're the ones voting for this shit.

However one thing to note is that Chet's scoring numbers have plummeted and it's now a very close race between him & Brandon Miller.
Chet 16.7 points per game vs Miller 16.4 points per game.
On his current form Miller will probably pass Chet as the second best rookie scorer, which would indirectly be a very positive thing for Victor because optics are everything. Somehow Miller might just have become Victor's best ally on his road to get ROTY.

[TheBallsbreakers]

I think there still are a number of pundits who are of the opinion that it's a close race. And they're the ones voting for this shit.

However one thing to note is that Chet's scoring numbers have plummeted and it's now a very close race between him & Brandon Miller.
Chet 16.7 points per game vs Miller 16.4 points per game.
On his current form Miller will probably pass Chet as the second best rookie scorer, which would indirectly be a very positive thing for Victor because optics are everything. Somehow Miller might just have become Victor's best ally on his road to get ROTY.
I haven't heard the same dull chorus for Chet being ROTY for a while now.
Wemby's quite the betting favorite to win it, at -500.

It's a foregone conclusion provided Wemby stays healthy.

I'm more intrigued by his chances at DPOY, though not getting my hopes up considering how terrible the rest of the team has been.

[Pauleta14]

Pundits who actually have votes like Richard Jefferson or JJ Reddick still think Chet is ahead or it's a tight race...

[SupremeGuy]

I think there still are a number of pundits who are of the opinion that it's a close race. And they're the ones voting for this shit.

However one thing to note is that Chet's scoring numbers have plummeted and it's now a very close race between him & Brandon Miller.
Chet 16.7 points per game vs Miller 16.4 points per game.
On his current form Miller will probably pass Chet as the second best rookie scorer, which would indirectly be a very positive thing for Victor because optics are everything. Somehow Miller might just have become Victor's best ally on his road to get ROTY.I think what's most damaging is that PATFO don't seem to give a shit.

Fucking dude is putting up historic numbers on a team that fucking sucked dick at getting him the ball in opportune moments for the first few months, and with pointless minute restrictions. Wemby is starting to hit his 3s at a decent clip lately too.

[SupremeGuy]

Pundits who actually have votes like Richard Jefferson or JJ Reddick still think Chet is ahead or it's a tight race...No offense to faggots, but are there two bigger ones than them? Fuck them.

[JPB]

I think there still are a number of pundits who are of the opinion that it's a close race. And they're the ones voting for this shit.

However one thing to note is that Chet's scoring numbers have plummeted and it's now a very close race between him & Brandon Miller.
Chet 16.7 points per game vs Miller 16.4 points per game.
On his current form Miller will probably pass Chet as the second best rookie scorer, which would indirectly be a very positive thing for Victor because optics are everything. Somehow Miller might just have become Victor's best ally on his road to get ROTY.

SGA's run for MVP too, as he's starting to take all the spotlights and people recognize it's easier for Chet playing with a superstar, and that SGA is the main main reason OKC is on top.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

SGA's run for MVP too, as he's starting to take all the spotlights and people recognize it's easier for Chet playing with a superstar, and that SGA is the main main reason OKC is on top.


not to also mention how well Santa Clara Jalen Williams has balled all season as well. Dude is probably OKC second best player overall and folks try and sleep on him. The game last night versus Orlando definitely helped a lot of fair weather voters see just how good he is in prime time

[spurraider21]

Pundits who actually have votes like Richard Jefferson or JJ Reddick still think Chet is ahead or it's a tight race...
thats because they dug their heels in by mid-december and now dont want to say they were wrong to

[rjv]

I think there still are a number of pundits who are of the opinion that it's a close race. And they're the ones voting for this shit.

However one thing to note is that Chet's scoring numbers have plummeted and it's now a very close race between him & Brandon Miller.
Chet 16.7 points per game vs Miller 16.4 points per game.
On his current form Miller will probably pass Chet as the second best rookie scorer, which would indirectly be a very positive thing for Victor because optics are everything. Somehow Miller might just have become Victor's best ally on his road to get ROTY.


last time the question was posed to them (in mid January), the likes of Stephen A and Michael Wilbon were leaning Chet. Brian Windhorst, as of this morning, had Wemby as his ROTY but said it was still to be determined. i mention these because they all actully have votes. this is still a close race, not because it should be, but because there are too many voters out there who are obsessed with OKC's record vs. the Spurs record.

[Arcadian]

All-star break update

https://images4.imagebam.com/5e/0b/33/MES1UI0_o.png
https://images4.imagebam.com/5a/55/ab/MES1UHY_o.png

[SpursFan86]

Victor now at -600 odds to win it. Can’t believe I was able to get in when it was like +120 or something in December :lol

[spurraider21]

:lmao

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[Fizziksman]

Victor now at -600 odds to win it. Can’t believe I was able to get in when it was like +120 or something in December :lol

we are gonna learn that all these people that prop up Chet made bets on Wemby during that stretch.

[tonight...you]

:lmao

1758517781082079404
It's just to keep the drama high.
Who likes to watch the end of a blowout?
They need eyeballs and clicks and this is how it gets done.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

just nice the spurs are being talked about lol

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u5GJlymvFw

[Thomas82]

The 5x5 last night definitely helped his case.

[John B]

The 5x5 last night definitely helped his case.

You know Pop will help him get it. He subbed out immediately after. Pop will let him get his numbers from here on, for Wemby’s legacy and likewise as a Spur

[Thomas82]

You know Pop will help him get it. He subbed out immediately after. Pop will let him get his numbers from here on, for Wemby’s legacy and likewise as a Spur

Cosign!!

[thiste]

Say what you will about LeBron but he's definitely not going to do this with Chet :lmao

https://twitter.com/_Andrew_Lopez/status/1761316073654145057

[LkrFan]

1761299712408535282

The Kang said some thangs about that young MFer :wow

[LkrFan]

Okay farmers, first off Wemby is the ROTY. Chet is a Ben Simmons type rookie (shouldn't even be considered tbh).

Wemby effortlessly dropped 16pts on AD last night in the 1st quarter (who I think is the best defensive player in the game; AD won't win it because of how he forced his way to LA; but that's another story).

I'm not sure if Chet is on the best team either. Everybody and they Mamma know the Spurs are actively tanking. The question is: who do you MFers have y'all eye on? Is there another Luka overseas somewhere? A Manu? Y'all ain't slick and that's what's pissing me off to the highest degree of pisstivity. :lol

Wemby is a prospect like we've never seen before. And I hate that he's a Spur. Now CIA Pop gonna add a another high lotto pick to pair with him and torture my Lakers for the next decade. Ole hot bref bastards. :lol

[John B]

Okay farmers, first off Wemby is the ROTY. Chet is a Ben Simmons type rookie (shouldn't even be considered tbh).

Wemby effortlessly dropped 16pts on AD last night in the 1st quarter (who I think is the best defensive player in the game; AD won't win it because of how he forced his way to LA; but that's another story).

I'm not sure if Chet is on the best team either. Everybody and they Mamma know the Spurs are actively tanking. The question is: who do you MFers have y'all eye on? Is there another Luka overseas somewhere? A Manu? Y'all ain't slick and that's what's pissing me off to the highest degree of pisstivity. :lol

Wemby is a prospect like we've never seen before. And I hate that he's a Spur. Now CIA Pop gonna add a another high lotto pick to pair with him and torture my Lakers for the next decade. Ole hot bref bastards. :lol

Maybe Chet will become a Laker and we’ll have another rivalry :lol

[exstatic]

Say what you will about LeBron but he's definitely not going to do this with Chet :lmao

https://twitter.com/_Andrew_Lopez/status/1761316073654145057

He’ll just break Chet’s foot.

[manufan10]

You know Pop will help him get it. He subbed out immediately after. Pop will let him get his numbers from here on, for Wemby’s legacy and likewise as a Spur

Pop did the same thing with Wemby against the Raptors to give him a chance to get his triple double. Immediately pulled him after he got it.

[LkrFan]

Maybe Chet will become a Laker and we’ll have another rivalry :lol

If only :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Okay farmers, first off Wemby is the ROTY. Chet is a Ben Simmons type rookie (shouldn't even be considered tbh).

Wemby effortlessly dropped 16pts on AD last night in the 1st quarter (who I think is the best defensive player in the game; AD won't win it because of how he forced his way to LA; but that's another story).

I'm not sure if Chet is on the best team either. Everybody and they Mamma know the Spurs are actively tanking. The question is: who do you MFers have y'all eye on? Is there another Luka overseas somewhere? A Manu? Y'all ain't slick and that's what's pissing me off to the highest degree of pisstivity. :lol

Wemby is a prospect like we've never seen before. And I hate that he's a Spur. Now CIA Pop gonna add a another high lotto pick to pair with him and torture my Lakers for the next decade. Ole hot bref bastards. :lol

Laker fans shaking in their boots while being the 9th seed :lol Get ready for the Dynasty 2.0

[LkrFan]

Laker fans shaking in their boots while being the 9th seed :lol Get ready for the Dynasty 2.0

:lol

[baseline bum]

Bovada has Wemby at -700 now for ROY. Chet +500 and Brandon Miller next at +20000

[slick'81]

Its ova!! give wemby the trophy :lobt2:

[Dejounte]

Future career wise

Banchero >>>> Chet’s black culture appropriating ass

https://x.com/clutchpoints/status/1761600154812183018?s=46

[KobesAchilles]

I think Chet’s ceiling all time wise is like a Pau Gasol. A HOF player but a number 2 guy on a championship team and a number 1 guy on a fringe playoff team.

I think Wemby needs to work on 2 things. The first is being meaner. He’s too nice but I think he can fix that issue later on as he ages. That and assuming Wemby works on conditioning, I really can’t see a ceiling for him. Not much to compare him to. A Ralph Sampson with handles? Dude just is amazing

[exstatic]

I think Chet’s ceiling all time wise is like a Pau Gasol. A HOF player but a number 2 guy on a championship team and a number 1 guy on a fringe playoff team.

I think Wemby needs to work on 2 things. The first is being meaner. He’s too nice but I think he can fix that issue later on as he ages. That and assuming Wemby works on conditioning, I really can’t see a ceiling for him. Not much to compare him to. A Ralph Sampson with handles? Dude just is amazing

Did you not see the last OKC/SA game? He was fucking HUNTING Chet. There was no nice in the building.

[Pauleta14]

He might be too nice with his teammates tho

[thiste]

He might be too nice with his teammates tho

Do you want him to turn into Jordan? Right now he's the youngest in the team, these things come with time.

[John B]

Wemby is far from nice. He was hunting Chet, he wouldn’t back down from Giannis dunk. He mixed it with LeBron and AD the other night. Earlier the season he went against KD. I don’t where the idea of Wemby being “nice.” The kid is respectful and humble, but he’s no pushover, very Duncan-isque plus the bravado and charm, he doesn’t shy away from the camera, would like to mix it up in the All-Star, which is good in recruiting great players to join him. It’s up to the Holts if they can loosen the purse in case.

[Pauleta14]

Do you want him to turn into Jordan? Right now he's the youngest in the team, these things come with time.

There’s a happy middle between being too nice/lenient and being a sociopath no?

sometimes being too nice/lenient with ur teammates delay their progression. Stress/conflict is good sometimes to bring the best

[KobesAchilles]

Did you not see the last OKC/SA game? He was fucking HUNTING Chet. There was no nice in the building.
I mean to his teammates when they freeze him out :lol
Even Timmy gave Tony “the look.”

[mudyez]

Chet with a strong game, but he should have to deliver some more of those to make it a close race again.

[Pauleta14]

Chet played 6 more minutes. That's a lot to fill up stats sheets

Pop said Wemby was going to play +30' from now on, but again a big lie (with the "this season is about winning...."). Barely 27'

[Tyronn Lue]

Chet played 6 more minutes. That's a lot to fill up stats sheets

Pop said Wemby was going to play +30' from now on, but again a big lie (with the "this season is about winning...."). Barely 27'
I knew when the 3rd ended and Victor had 21 minutes he was going to get shorted again.

[skin27]

I knew when the 3rd ended and Victor had 21 minutes he was going to get shorted again.

Yeah fck pop for treating victor like a baby

[Robz4000]

Not sure how much Tim works with Wemby, but I'd like to see him locked in the gym with him as soon as the season ends until the Olympics tbh. Just work on his fundamentals. He has the instincts and the physical gifts, just get that IQ on the same level.

[Rocalcio]

Chet played 6 more minutes. That's a lot to fill up stats sheets

Pop said Wemby was going to play +30' from now on, but again a big lie (with the "this season is about winning...."). Barely 27'

The game was over and Victor was exhausted, there was no need to bring him back.

[exstatic]

Chet played 6 more minutes. That's a lot to fill up stats sheets

Pop said Wemby was going to play +30' from now on, but again a big lie (with the "this season is about winning...."). Barely 27'

Because they were being blown out. No reason to risk injury in an unwinnable game. The good news is that Pop saved minutes early so that if the game had come back into focus, Wemby pretty much could have played the whole 4th Q.

[DAF86]

The game was over and Victor was exhausted, there was no need to bring him back.


Because they were being blown out. No reason to risk injury in an unwinnable game. The good news is that Pop saved minutes early so that if the game had come back into focus, Wemby pretty much could have played the whole 4th Q.

Victor was exhausted or he could have played the entire 4th Q, which one is it?

[Rocalcio]

Victor was exhausted or he could have played the entire 4th Q, which one is it?

In case you didn’t notice, you’re quoting 2 different persons, so 2 different points of view. I believe it can’t be denied Wembanyama has always been facing stamina issues, so pick what opinion you want.

[manufan10]

1762138366932594936

[Shaolinstyle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdVxWGLQRlE Stephen A says chet has a good chance

[rjv]

i still think there are some sports writers out there who are leaning towards Chet so Thursday's game could determine if Wemby locks it up or this drags on a bit longer.

[Jordan Jackson]

i still think there are some sports writers out there who are leaning towards Chet so Thursday's game could determine if Wemby locks it up or this drags on a bit longer.

This wouldn’t be much of a race if this roster wasn’t in nightmare mode. Having a roster with no shooting or vet presence is insane.

[spurraider21]

if the first quarter of the season wasnt being actively sabotaged there wouldnt be a conversation to begin with. chet was getting a lot of the talk in december not just because of the W/L thing but also the wide gap in efficiency which has been shrinking.

once people started saying chet was ROY, it became a matter of not wanting to change minds. guys like Reddick, et al that refuse to budge from earlier positions because they dont want to admit they were wrong (which is silly, because they could just say that the play since then has led them to change their mind)

[scott]

Our man is averaging 3.3 APG surrounded by guys who can't shoot. Wonder how much of a boost that would make to that stat, though his 2.2 ORPG might go down a little :lol

[thiste]

They're openly telling you, for some of them the race still isn't over.

[ambchang]

At this point the only people who would vote for Chet are either OKC fans or people who have confederate flag bumper stickers on their pick up trucks.

[Splits]

it's over

https://i.ibb.co/48Kthcr/image.png

[thiste]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAC4VGTRsuU

Victor might end up #2 on DPOY voting.

[mudyez]

Here is the ROTY odds race...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Monday_night_wars_ratings.gif

[Tyronn Lue]

There's a possibility voters send a message to the Spurs that you cannot get the 1st overall pick then tank again, and the punishment could be the RotY award.

[mudyez]

Not saying it's over, but this game nearly wraps it up.

[DAF86]

Lock this thread, tbh. No need for it no more.

[TheChillFactor]

vincecarteritsover.gif

[thiste]

VICTOR MAMBANYAMA

[slick'81]

Not saying it's over, but this game nearly wraps it up.

its been ova

[z0sa]

https://i.ibb.co/Kjy69qt/roydecided.jpg

[thiste]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHjm9EoaoAEIjXn.jpg

[TrainOfThought5]

https://i.ibb.co/Kjy69qt/roydecided.jpg

Hang it in the Louvre!

[scott]

Wemby has now moved to -1400 and Chet +900 following the game. It’s OOOOOOVAAAAAH

[Splits]

https://i.ibb.co/YR7TkFm/image.png

https://c.tenor.com/8zUyU3lh7csAAAAC/tenor.gif

[Seventyniner]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHjm9EoaoAEIjXn.jpg

DRob would never say it this way, but that's a "my nigga" face if I ever saw one.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

ROY was never in question regardless of what some media idiots would have you believe. Chet is a damn good player but in a redraft, where both are in, 30 GMs, Chet himself and Chet’s own mother would take Wemby over him.

[spursparker9]

https://i.ibb.co/Kjy69qt/roydecided.jpg

Where is Pop ?

[Ignazzz]

Where is Pop ?

poszedł siku

[manufan10]

1763411232567267449

[The Truth #6]

A great part of the clip of THE Wemby block is Pop in the background yelling his head off, basically showing more energy than he has all season. Team needs aggro Pop to come back.

[Splits]

A great part of the clip of THE Wemby block is Pop in the background yelling his head off, basically showing more energy than he has all season. Team needs aggro Pop to come back.

I think he was yelling at Tre to push the ball up the court, he doesn't initially react at all

1763467628322914541

[MultiTroll]

Where is Pop ?
Where he should be.

Out of the picture. :lol

[Mugen]

Where he should be.

Out of the picture. :lol

:lol

[thiste]

Locked On Thunder conceding:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq-Hw8LyKpo

[Arcadian]

DRob would never say it this way, but that's a "my nigga" face if I ever saw one.

:lol

Dave was always a big advocate for fellow Spurs. He was always the first to remind everyone that Tim was the best player in the world when they played together. I imagine he'll be as big of an advocate for Victor as well.

[kace]

well, saw the game, and Chet was definitely having a lot of success on offense going one on one against Victor. Rather impressive. Victor didn't have the same opportunity since Chet didn't defend him regularly, but he had the highlight with the last three on the face and the outstanding block.

I remember discussing here about Chet's game. I find Holmgren amazing. He's very good, very well rounded. People were saying that he didn't have to create his shot, i believe that was DAF. I didn't agree and i disagree even more after this game. He sure created his own shot a lot of times, and against a defensive monster like Victor. To be honest, Victor has to impove in some area of his one on one defense but still, that was impressive from Holmgren.

Victor is probably the ROY. that's even clearer and clearer as the season progresses.

But i believe Holmgren will be a superstar in this league, not just the super role player some are depicting him.

[Splits]

https://i.ibb.co/zZCBKKc/image.png

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/89rQXQwDdfk0xDbV98EAkw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTY0MDtoPTQyNw--/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2023-11/9eab05b0-8373-11ee-b7ab-80f24ec2f258

[spurraider21]

Chet is a monster. We just happen to have godzilla

[Robz4000]

Chet is a monster. We just happen to have godzilla

OKC has an army. Spurs have a Hulk.

[Dhbsr555]

The Roy race is 1000 percent over just give it to wemby

[thiste]

Tonight:




PTSREBASTSTLBLKFG%3P%FT%+/-MIN



Victor311261664.775.085.7+1931:24



Chet14921050.00.080.0-1931:35

[Tyronn Lue]

DRob would never say it this way, but that's a "my nigga" face if I ever saw one.
"My brother in Christ"

[Dhbsr555]

"My brother in Christ"
��������

[kxs783kms]

well, saw the game, and Chet was definitely having a lot of success on offense going one on one against Victor. Rather impressive. Victor didn't have the same opportunity since Chet didn't defend him regularly, but he had the highlight with the last three on the face and the outstanding block.

I remember discussing here about Chet's game. I find Holmgren amazing. He's very good, very well rounded. People were saying that he didn't have to create his shot, i believe that was DAF. I didn't agree and i disagree even more after this game. He sure created his own shot a lot of times, and against a defensive monster like Victor. To be honest, Victor has to impove in some area of his one on one defense but still, that was impressive from Holmgren.

Victor is probably the ROY. that's even clearer and clearer as the season progresses.

But i believe Holmgren will be a superstar in this league, not just the super role player some are depicting him.

The one thing that's going to hurt Chet is that he'll always be tied to Shai. No matter what stats he puts up, most are going to say he's getting those numbers because of playing next to Shai, who takes a lot of pressure and eyes off of him. No matter what superstar the Spurs eventually put next to Wemby, the league will it's Wemby's team. I don't think Chet will every be viewed that way, even if he becomes a superstar.

[TDMVPDPOY]

chet = reminds me of ak47 with an offensive game...sure ak47 wasnt told to do more offensively, but he can still fill up the stat sheet doing other stuff required of him...

[manufan10]

1764485057656279459

[TiMMeH*faN*frOmNY]

Chet is a beast but Wemby not from this planet

[mudyez]

All the media people seem to be in the "it's over" camp now.

And without wanting to jinx anything...at this point Wemby may even win it, if he couldn't play any more games this season.

[Splits]

it's over

https://i.ibb.co/48Kthcr/image.png
that escalated quickly

https://i.ibb.co/Ph4bG86/image.png

what's more interesting is the DPOY odds, VW was like +5000 at the end of 2023, and something like +1500 at the ASG iirc

https://i.ibb.co/YRYgGnk/image.png

if he keeps averaging fuckin 5+ blocks per 36 the rest of the season, this could get real interesting

[tapiefan]

Top 2 defensive players are french. My national team will be
so nasty at the Olympics.

[DAF86]

All the media people seem to be in the "it's over" camp now.

And without wanting to jinx anything...at this point Wemby may even win it, if he couldn't play any more games this season.

He needs to play 65 games.

[baseline bum]

if he keeps averaging fuckin 5+ blocks per 36 the rest of the season, this could get real interesting

If he keeps that up he's winning DPOY

[baseline bum]

He needs to play 65 games.

Not for ROY. All the other awards and I believe All NBA teams he would need 65 games though.

[Tyronn Lue]

🤣🤣🤣🤣
nm, showed up as question marks originally. :tu

[Tyronn Lue]

So Victor probably gets 1st team all defense as well as ROY?

[NASpurs]

So Victor probably gets 1st team all defense as well as ROY?

If Gobert is 1st team all defense at the 5, can Wemby be slotted in at the 4?

He should also get All NBA while we're at it... at least 3rd team.

[spurraider21]

JJ Redick has seen the light. not only saying he's the ROY and one of the best rookies ever, but also saying he was unnecessarily flippant earlier about Wemby in the ROY conversation when he basically brushed off the idea of him winning over chet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAFgoHMC3V0

[Mugen]

If he keeps that up he's winning DPOY

No way they'd give it to a guy from a team that's terrible defensively like the Spurs. It's Gobert this year but starting next year Wemby should be the favorite when healthy.

Side note - but this is your yearly reminder that it's absolutely fucking criminal that Timmy doesn't have a 5 DPOY awards, let alone a single one.

In regards to ROY, the only thing in doubt now is whether Vic will win it unanimously. He should but there'll be some "efficiency" nerds out that there will vote for Chet out of spite.

[slick'81]

No way they'd give it to a guy from a team that's terrible defensively like the Spurs. It's Gobert this year but starting next year Wemby should be the favorite when healthy.

Side note - but this is your yearly reminder that it's absolutely fucking criminal that Timmy doesn't have a 5 DPOY awards, let alone a single one.

In regards to ROY, the only thing in doubt now is whether Vic will win it unanimously. He should but there'll be some "efficiency" nerds out that there will vote for Chet out of spite.


Rasheed wallace said it but we all new it. "Tim Duncan is the most disrespected superstar of all time"

[buttsR4rebounding]

He needs to play 65 games.

Not for ROY. It isn’t included in the 65 game minimum.

[thiste]

If Gobert is 1st team all defense at the 5, can Wemby be slotted in at the 4?

He should also get All NBA while we're at it... at least 3rd team.

So ROTY doesn't require 65 games played, DPOY does. Also I heard they're not doing positions anymore for awards, they'll just have the best players on the best all-teams.

So right now we're looking at ROTY, 1st team all-rookie, possibly 1st team all-defense and a tiny chance at DPOY (real chance at runner-up).
He also might get a few votes for MVP and All-NBA.

[Tyronn Lue]

If Gobert is 1st team all defense at the 5, can Wemby be slotted in at the 4?

He should also get All NBA while we're at it... at least 3rd team.
Maybe. I am not sure what his "official" position is.

[Thomas82]

Chet is a beast but Wemby not from this planet

Chet followed his 14 and 9 game from yesterday up with 15 and 7 tonight, and got 1 block.

[cutewizard]

Roooooooooooooooooooooookie of the Yearrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Thomas82]

it's over

https://i.ibb.co/48Kthcr/image.png

Fan Duel is taking bets on him getting a quadruple-double before the season is over. They started the odds at +10,000.

[objective]

The Dunc'd On podcast had their March Awards show a few days ago and ...

Both hosts picked Chet Holmgren as the Rookie of the Year.

There was a slight window open for VW that maaaaaaybe after the season was over and the rest of the games played that they could change their minds, but they made it sound highly unlikely.

Danny LeRoux: "Chet Holmgren has not only been a superior offensive player to Wembanyama … If you're calling them a wash on defense or close to it … then this is Chet Holmgren's award. I think he has been a materially better offensive player."

Nate Duncan: "Chet Holmgren is shooting 40% on threes. I don't think Victor Wembanyama could shoot 40% on threes no matter what his shot diet was. … He also has basically the highest turnover usage in the league. … There was a time this year when Victor Wembanyama had 52% true shooting, and that time counts"

Soooo

Bring one of the idiots who pays for this podcast, it does have me reconsidering my paid subscriptions.

[SpursFan86]

The Dunc'd On podcast had their March Awards show a few days ago and ...

Both hosts picked Chet Holmgren as the Rookie of the Year.

There was a slight window open for VW that maaaaaaybe after the season was over and the rest of the games played that they could change their minds, but they made it sound highly unlikely.

Danny LeRoux: "Chet Holmgren has not only been a superior offensive player to Wembanyama … If you're calling them a wash on defense or close to it … then this is Chet Holmgren's award. I think he has been a materially better offensive player."

Nate Duncan: "Chet Holmgren is shooting 40% on threes. I don't think Victor Wembanyama could shoot 40% on threes no matter what his shot diet was. … He also has basically the highest turnover usage in the league. … There was a time this year when Victor Wembanyama had 52% true shooting, and that time counts"

Soooo

Bring one of the idiots who pays for this podcast, it does have me reconsidering my paid subscriptions.

Terrible arguments. Really struggling to see how anyone could think it’s not VW’s award at this point. At absolute worst, it’s maybe a toss-up? Even that is just hard for me to wrap my head around at this point. Even more bizarre of a stance when you realize we still have a quarter of the season left…why are they still focusing so much on November/December?

[TheBallsbreakers]

Are these foos relevant? Do they have a vote in the award somehow?
I live under a rock and I haven't heard of them

[sfernald]

After making Sengun look like a Hall of Famer and then the injury that Pop will probably use as an excuse to keep him out the rest of the season or at least play as little as possible, the ROY award is definitely in doubt. Chet is heading for a deep playoff run and that playoff experience will really help him.

[DesignatedT]

Chet is also not a rookie but whatever.

[baseline bum]

After making Sengun look like a Hall of Famer and then the injury that Pop will probably use as an excuse to keep him out the rest of the season or at least play as little as possible, the ROY award is definitely in doubt. Chet is heading for a deep playoff run and that playoff experience will really help him.

Fuck off Thunder fan, Chet's nowhere close to Wemby

[DAF86]

Fuck off Thunder fan, Chet's nowhere close to Wemby

Is he really a Thunder fan? All the comments I've read from him are either proposing awful trades or moves (like trading a top 3 pick for Giddey :lmao) or just being downright negative. Clearly doesn't seem like a Spurs fan.