Game Thread: San Antonio Spurs at New York Knicks November 8th, 2023 | 6:30 PM CT

[rjv]

Wemby's MSG baptism. I hope he fares well on the biggest stage in all of basketball. Spurs lose by twenty and Knicks likely to hit at least 15 threes in this one.

[Manu20]

Win or loose I'm just hoping Wemby puts on a show. Here is for a big game from Wemby :bobo

[spurs10]

Wonder if Vassell is back? Go Spurs!

[rjv]

Wonder if Vassell is back? Go Spurs!

he's listed as doubtful for tonight.

[NASpurs]

Goal: Keep them under 120!

[Big Empty]

Need to see a better effort on defense

[RC_Drunkford]

Technically we match up great with the Knicks. Their bigs lack size and their wings ain‘t that dangerous. We just don’t have anybody who can guard Brunson, so I guess he‘ll drop 40 on us tonight

[exstatic]

Technically we match up great with the Knicks. Their bigs lack size and their wings ain‘t that dangerous. We just don’t have anybody who can guard Brunson, so I guess he‘ll drop 40 on us tonight

They suck on defense, so Brunson's 40 won't matter. Wemby should absolutely feast.

[RC_Drunkford]

They suck on defense, so Brunson's 40 won't matter. Wemby should absolutely feast.

if he gets the ball

[exstatic]

if he gets the ball

So far, only defensive minded teams have sold out to pack the lane and deny him. This is what exposed Phoenix as pretenders.

[spurs1990]

Didn’t follow the Spurs last year but per the internet recap of the @NY game in January, Spurs were down 2 with the ball and 5 seconds left. Sochan was called for a 5 second violation trying to inbound. Ended the night with zero pts in 30min PT.

[TD 21]

Technically we match up great with the Knicks. Their bigs lack size and their wings ain‘t that dangerous. We just don’t have anybody who can guard Brunson, so I guess he‘ll drop 40 on us tonight

Randle, Robinson (arguably the best offensive rebounder in the league) and Hartenstein are all brutes and there's no off ball wing/forward among the starters to put Wembanyama on to roam.

[Joseph Kony]

off topic but i havent really paid much attention to Scoot and the Blazers and just checked on his stats so far. holy shit did we really luck out getting the #1 pick :lol I know it's only been a few games and he will improve but his numbers are abysmal right now - 8.8ppg/4.5apg/2.2rpg on 34% shooting (9% from three :lmao) with 4 TOs and 4 fouls per game. going about as bad as it can for him so far

[Fireball]

So far, only defensive minded teams have sold out to pack the lane and deny him. This is what exposed Phoenix as pretenders.

well, the Knicks are a defensive minded team ...

[Leetonidas]

Mitchell Robinson is a pretty big, strong C so should be an interesting match up for Wemby (assuming the Knicks use him to guard Vic)

[John B]

Knicks are strong offensive rebounder. This one could end quick if Spurs are not there from start

[spurraider21]

:wow

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[Mugen]

Would be nice to get DV back, hopefully he's 100% tbh

[rjv]

off topic but i havent really paid much attention to Scoot and the Blazers and just checked on his stats so far. holy shit did we really luck out getting the #1 pick :lol I know it's only been a few games and he will improve but his numbers are abysmal right now - 8.8ppg/4.5apg/2.2rpg on 34% shooting (9% from three :lmao) with 4 TOs and 4 fouls per game. going about as bad as it can for him so far


he's also missed the last two games with a sprained ankle, and is listed as out for tonight as well.

[Arcadian]

off topic but i havent really paid much attention to Scoot and the Blazers and just checked on his stats so far. holy shit did we really luck out getting the #1 pick :lol I know it's only been a few games and he will improve but his numbers are abysmal right now - 8.8ppg/4.5apg/2.2rpg on 34% shooting (9% from three :lmao) with 4 TOs and 4 fouls per game. going about as bad as it can for him so far

Yeah, and Miller isn't looking great either. This was definitely a draft with one clear winner and a steep dropoff after that. That's why it felt so good to win the lottery. The difference between #1 and #2 was the difference between starting a new chapter of the franchise and just having some decent new player.

[spurraider21]

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still leaving room for the possibility, but still seems like he's on the doubtful side of things. nevertheless, its great that he's close to a return, considering many of us were concerned this would be a multi-week thing, if not more than a month

[Pauleta14]

Apparently nobody's really sure of the interest of winning games, so let's hope for a Wemby show!

[Spurs Homer]

I think the knicks have had every single game nationally televised so far…

and they are boring as fuck

[tim_duncan_fan]

Even if I am team tank, I don't feel like losing to the shitty Knicks, for some reason. Maybe the guys will actually hoop today.

[Thomas82]

Wonder if Vassell is back? Go Spurs!

I saw a tweet saying that he would warm up tonight and be a gametime decision.

[Thomas82]

off topic but i havent really paid much attention to Scoot and the Blazers and just checked on his stats so far. holy shit did we really luck out getting the #1 pick :lol I know it's only been a few games and he will improve but his numbers are abysmal right now - 8.8ppg/4.5apg/2.2rpg on 34% shooting (9% from three :lmao) with 4 TOs and 4 fouls per game. going about as bad as it can for him so far

And he missed some time with a bad ankle.

[spurraider21]

:wow

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[SpursFan86]

Vassell officially active :hungry:

[weeks]

:wow

1722403999792464162
:lmao local spurs media clowned again

[Splits]

Spurs by 3

[spurraider21]

cia pop fuckin around?

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[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOGg1xSUk2c&ab_channel=SanAntonioSpurs

[spurraider21]

now it seems branham is starting but vassell is available off the bench

[wildbill2u]

off topic but i havent really paid much attention to Scoot and the Blazers and just checked on his stats so far. holy shit did we really luck out getting the #1 pick :lol I know it's only been a few games and he will improve but his numbers are abysmal right now - 8.8ppg/4.5apg/2.2rpg on 34% shooting (9% from three :lmao) with 4 TOs and 4 fouls per game. going about as bad as it can for him so far

Been wondering about him since he was pretty hyped by lots of analysts. Now I see why he has disappeared from popular BB conversations.

[Chinook]

now it seems branham is starting but vassell is available off the bench

Isn't hamstring one of those things where you want to get it warm and not really come back in after it cools down? If so, it would make sense for Vassell to play to start each half rather than having him play spot minutes off the bench.

[spurraider21]

Isn't hamstring one of those things where you want to get it warm and not really come back in after it cools down? If so, it would make sense for Vassell to play to start each half rather than having him play spot minutes off the bench.
its a groin, not a hammy, but wouldnt be surprised if that same principle applied.

[Mugen]

Why is Pop doing color commentary with Mike Breen tbh? :lol

[objective]

Hubie game on ESPN

One of the bigger announcing tragedies in Spurs history is when Hubie signed up to do the Spurs broadcasts part time but that tool Jerry West had to hire him as head coach 8 games into the year. I think Hubie only did 1 or 2 games that year.

[Obstructed_View]

Breen just called him Wembanyana. My faith in everything is shattered.

[Obstructed_View]

Hubie game on ESPN

One of the bigger announcing tragedies in Spurs history is when Hubie signed up to do the Spurs broadcasts part time but that tool Jerry West had to hire him as head coach 8 games into the year. I think Hubie only did 1 or 2 games that year.

Hubie is utter shit as a color guy. He was a pretty good coach.

[objective]

Hubie is utter shit as a color guy. He was a pretty good coach.

Now he is. 20 years ago, he was just slipping out of his prime.

He is still well ahead of Sean or Colby or Blanks or Bonner.

[spurraider21]

Hubie is utter shit as a color guy. He was a pretty good coach.
now you gotta give him credit

[Joseph Kony]

he's also missed the last two games with a sprained ankle, and is listed as out for tonight as well.

ST would be losing their fuckin minds if we drafted Scoot and he was putting up those numbers and then got hurt and had to miss multiple games right out of the gate :lmao

[Obstructed_View]

Now he is. 20 years ago, he was just slipping out of his prime.

He is still well ahead of Sean or Colby or Blanks or Bonner.
I disagree. He's better than homers like Drexler or Scott Hastings. But not by much, tbh

[Mugen]

Let's just try to keep it under 30 tbh

[Raven]

welp

[objective]

Spurs picking up where they left off and Vic still on tilt

[jeebus]

Fantastic start. I think Pop not having an offense is brilliant.

[Frenchfred]

Wemby jacking up threes ��

[spurs1990]

Brickbanyama

[spurraider21]

wemby playing like ass on both ends

black hole on offense, giving up a 3, and then not even bothering contesting a layup 3 feet from him

[freetiago]

At least he’s getting up shots tonight. Just need to run people off the 3 and stop over helping on every single person on the floor

[heyheymymy]

Knicks have a deep guards corps and got shooters for days

[emanueldavidginobili]

Catch the ball and drive to the hoop, has to realize he can be unstoppable in the paint.

[Leetonidas]

That's game

[heyheymymy]

SA looks like they NEED Dev to compete

[NASpurs]

Pretty gutsy of ESPN showing this game instead of Boston/Philly. :lol

[onechance87]

wemby getting his shots,Just not knocking them down

[heyheymymy]

Spurs can't get a basket stop or rebound

[Frenchfred]

Again, not defending the threes and not rebounding, this is going to be a long year

[jeebus]

Pretty gutsy of ESPN showing this game instead of Boston/Philly. :lol

Can they switch off after the first quarter if it's a blowout? Like how the NFL does? Cuz this game is going to be ugly.

[NASpurs]

Collins :lol

[Kurgan]

Pop's leave-every-three-point-shooter-open strategy is sure to to pay off any day now...

[r0drig0lac]

all teams turn into warriors17 shooting level against spurs lol

[BackHome]

Someone needs to tell Wemby to stop shooting the three....

[Mugen]

They might be worse than last year tbh :lol

[baseline bum]

Ugh yeah let's get Wemby as few minutes as possible with a real PG.

[Fizziksman]

Someone needs to tell Wemby to stop shooting the three....

Someone needs to tell the whole team besides Vassell to stop shooting threes

[NASpurs]

Let's trade KJ while he still has value tbh

[Obstructed_View]

Now he is. 20 years ago, he was just slipping out of his prime.

He is still well ahead of Sean or Colby or Blanks or Bonner.
Hubie: that's an easy call.
Replay: shows Brunson guilty of blatant blocking foul
Hubie: yeah that's an obvious charge

[Dex]

Getting tired of Johnson's shit, tbh

[spursparker9]

Look like we have a real chance to get the number 1 pick again in 2024 draft.

[Raven]

man this is hard to watch

[Leetonidas]

Hard to watch

[Dex]

More offensive rebounds going against the Spurs

[Leetonidas]

Look like we have a real chance to get the number 1 pick again in 2024 draft.

Silver lining :lol Wemby and Sarr frontline:wow

[Robz4000]

They might be worse than last year tbh :lol

Was about to post this tbh :lol

[LakerHater]

Perimeter defense is Shit, again!

[NASpurs]

What is this team good at anyway? Pretty lousy at all things basketball.

[Mugen]

It's a team with very little talent but frankly pretty poorly coached. Rough combination tbh.

[onechance87]

wow we are bad...No talent or iq on this team

[r0drig0lac]

This team's last few games have been so ridiculous defensively that it's almost as if they did it on purpose.

[Dex]

If Spurs can get Randle to meltdown, that will help.

He will go full Rodman and tank their chances

[heyheymymy]

Lotta game left

Knicks have a tendency to dump big leads

[onechance87]

tre jones is no better then sochan

[Mugen]

It's embarrassing that this is a nationally televised game, they're going to lose by 30+ again :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Funny how much better the offense was before everybody decided Jones should be running it.

[Raven]

Funny how much better the offense was before everybody decided Jones should be running it.
indeed

[jeebus]

Any decent PGs hitting the free agent market next offseason? Need to sell semi high on Keldon too.

[onechance87]

tre jones defence has become worst the last few games.....Dude cant shoot or play decent d....Hes a big reason
why we suking along with not rebounding

[timtonymanu]

:lol the old man can’t coach in 2024

[Dex]

Why does it feel like every team we play shoots like Ray Allen, and all the Spurs shoot like me?

[Leetonidas]

Why does it feel like every team we play shoots like Ray Allen, and all the Spurs shoot like me?

Easy to shoot like Ray Allen when no one is guarding you tbh

[SpursFan86]

What an ugly first quarter. Team has just been so hard to watch since the 4th quarter of the Toronto game.

[Raven]

tre jones defence has become worst the last few games.....Dude cant shoot or play decent d....Hes a big reason
why we suking along with not rebounding
i really don't understand when did people see him defend even decently...

[BackHome]

Pop taking the L for the team we going to get a high draft pick and set up our new coach with a good foundation of talent

[Raven]

Why does it feel like every team we play shoots like Ray Allen, and all the Spurs shoot like me?
guards can't go around screens fast enough

[MannyIsGod]

Lol why do we never set screens for Wemby. Does the coaching staff know we can do that? I swear it's like we don't want to have this kid shoot a 15 footer off a screen.

[Blizzardwizard]

Vassell came off the bench barely six minutes into the game and it was already over... Poor guy! :lol

[Frenchfred]

Pretty much the entire team needs to be changed

[ralph nyc]

pop the goat.

[Raven]

sochan showing some pride

[Barfunk]

God dammit lol

[emanueldavidginobili]

What the fuck was that Collins lmao, lazy fuck

[freetiago]

Can’t even get a shot up turnovers. That jump all they won and just stare at it

[Leetonidas]

Jesus man, wtf is this shit

[Dex]

I know it's easy to bitch when we are down 20, but...

We need a real center. Collins ain't it.

He can score, he can shoot, but he still isn't a center.

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

:pctoss

[Mikeanaro]

What a shit game.

[Barfunk]

Well, they're feeding Wemby, but he's missing everything.

[Leetonidas]

Wembustyama smh

[emanueldavidginobili]

Wemby in his head right now, thinking way to much.

[Robz4000]

Wemby :vomit:

[spurraider21]

wemby unironically needs to get over himself

[SpursFan86]

Victor doing some serious damage to his ROTY case tonight on ESPN :lol

[J_Paco]

The team still needs a lot. A wing defender (Keldon is better as a 6th man), a shot creator (Branham could eventually be that guy), and obviously a high - end distributor.

I think a lot people thought getting Wemby would magically propel the team beyond lottery bound. These last three games are proving that thought very, very wrong.

[Robz4000]

Wembustanyana smh

Ftfy

[NASpurs]

I know it's easy to bitch when we are down 20, but...

We need a real center. Collins ain't it.

He can score, he can shoot, but he still isn't a center.

It's easier to name the things we don't need. :lol

[spurs1990]

Two air balls. Can only go up from here

[onechance87]

jesus wemby lol

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Feel bad for Wemby poor kid is embarrassing himself on national tv

[J_Paco]

I know it's easy to bitch when we are down 20, but...

We need a real center. Collins ain't it.

He can score, he can shoot, but he still isn't a center.

Too weak to bang or hold his own. He gets uprooted and moved around way too easily.

[tbdog]

Boy. We are like wizards bad.

[weebo]

Wembanyama just going through the motions.

[TE]

There will be plenty of nights like this. I am not worried in the longterm.

[Guru of Nothing]

While we're experimenting with lineups, I want to see Wemby at center, and bring in Barlow at PF. It has to be better than this shit.

[Joseph Kony]

Free Devonte Graham

[baseline bum]

The Sochan PG experiment has to end. This team starts its games completely unable to score and there is no way this team is going to come back against veteran teams from 16 point first quarters.

[J_Paco]

Hartenstein is feasting against Zach. SMDH

[KDKSpurs24]

Wemby has a lot of work to do. His handles are ineffective against this level of competition and he has no real plan or moves that he goes to. He’s doing exactly what he said when they asked him about that layup around Chet. He’s just “freestyling”. He’s young but I would have thought he would have developed at least one simple move by now. He doesn’t even use an easy jump hook. Oh and he refuses to box out! He just lets everyone box him out.

[Robz4000]

God damn, there is nothing this team does well tbh.

[Frenchfred]

There will be plenty of nights like this. I am not worried in the longterm.

I'm in the sense that getting obliterated all the time has a huge impact on the morale and the will to stay with a team. Right now, outside of Vassel, everybody is bad. So the team needs a lot to surround Wemby with a good team.

[Dex]

That's basket interference but OK, whatever

[Bill_Brasky]

This Hartenstein scrub looks like Kareem against us :lol

[spursparker9]

Hartenstein is feasting against Zach. SMDH

:lol Is there any big that is not feasting on poor Zach?

[boutons_deux]

I suppose a lot of seats were purchased tonight by people who wanted to see VW

He's showing them nothing

Spurs got no offense

Spurs got no defense

Spurs suck!

[baseline bum]

I know it's easy to bitch when we are down 20, but...

We need a real center. Collins ain't it.

He can score, he can shoot, but he still isn't a center.

And a PG. And a SF. And a coach.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Might need to try to throw Barlow in there, need someone with a high motor. Shit call up Sidy. Every single player just watched the ball instead of going and get the rebound.

[Frenchfred]

Wemby has a lot of work to do. His handles are ineffective against this level of competition and he has no real plan or moves that he goes to. He’s doing exactly what he said when they asked him about that layup around Chet. He’s just “freestyling”. He’s young but I would have thought he would have developed at least one simple move by now. He doesn’t even use an easy jump hook. Oh and he refuses to box out! He just lets everyone box him out.

Yes. He had a good game and people are expecting him to play like that all the time, he won't. I'll be happy if he is averaging 15 points and 8 rebounds this year on a 45% shooting. He has a lot to learn. I don't think that he'll win ROY

[Mikeanaro]

I'm in the sense that getting obliterated all the time has a huge impact on the morale and the will to stay with a team. Right now, outside of Vassel, everybody is bad. So the team needs a lot to surrender Wemby with a good team.
I prefer not to think Wemby is a diva and has the will to improve his game instead of thinking he is Jabbar or something.

[onechance87]

kj is so inconsitent on offence and d

[J_Paco]

Free Devonte Graham


The Sochan PG experiment has to end. This team starts its games completely unable to score and there is no way this team is going to come back against veteran teams from 16 point first quarters.

Yeah, I wanted to give the 'Point Guard/Forward' experiment sometime but not at the cost of these slow starts which lead to demoralizing losses.

I'd rather see Jones starting with either (or both) Keldon or Sochan off the bench, while finally giving Wesley or Graham some run. The team just looks discombobulated and become clearly discouraged.

[onechance87]

Might need to try to throw Barlow in there, need someone with a high motor. Shit call up Sidy. Every single player just watched the ball instead of going and get the rebound.

yup might need sum major change

[weebo]

Last year was bad but at least that team made the game tolerable to watch. WTF is this shit?

[hoopdreams11]

Watched Sochan mess up that fast break, does pop realize boris got to learn from steve nash who does Sochan have

[Frenchfred]

I prefer not to think Wemby is a diva and has the will to improve his game instead of thinking he is Jabbar or something.

I think that he is but there is a difference between losing by a couple of points and losing by 20. Hopefully, having Vassel back will help him

[J_Paco]

:lol Is there any big that is not feasting on poor Zach?


So true.......

He tries and plays hard, but clearly still is more suited for the PF spot than center.

[Devi8or]

Poeltl would be a godsend at center for us right about now

[Dverde]

I miss Doug Collins. Where did he go? Hubie is terrible

[Dex]

Spurs look like the Washington Generals whenever Wemby isn't on the floor.

We got a long way to go, boys and girls

[Blizzardwizard]

I'm old enough to remember a few weeks ago when Pop said the emphasis over the off-season was playing with pride on the defensive end.

[onechance87]

rebounds killing us

[KDKSpurs24]

Spurs look like the Washington Generals whenever Wemby isn't on the floor.

We got a long way to go, boys and girls
It’s the same WITH him on the floor. I’m not defending him just because of who he’s supposed to be. He’s a reason for struggles as well. It’s up and down

[J_Paco]

Spurs been ass, but the game isn't out of reach. Gotta play some fucking defense and get some stops.

[NASpurs]

After tonight's loss, we're headed to Memphis Grizzlies territory. At least their point differential is respectable.

[timtonymanu]

This might be a 30 win team at best. I mean yeah it’s a full season to turn it around but we literally have no vets with experience, and all just young players that only know how to hero ball.

[onechance87]

get this under 10

[spurraider21]

keldon had wemby wide open for a lob...

[r0drig0lac]

even the contested shots against Spurs look like easy shots, it's really unbelievable.

[Chinook]

It's funny how Pop seems to only experiment with bringing Vassell off the bench. Never Keldon or Sochan. Pop decided Sochan, Keldon and Collins would start no matter what.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Down by 14 i'll take it all things considered lmao

[MultiTroll]

Vassells blown layup....
If he would have had court awareness to see Wemby could have trailed for the monster slam, all Vassell would have had to do was turn around with the ball. Highlight reel in the making. Instead Wemby just pulls up at the 3 point line. He can sense no way in hell is Vassell going to pass it and so he just stops at the arc.

[onechance87]

how did kj miss that alley op to wemby

[KDKSpurs24]

Down by 14 i'll take it all things considered lmao
You can thank the Knicks for that.

[spurraider21]

tre has single handedly gifted the knicks about 3 wide open three point shots by gambling for steals then finding himself out of the play

[timtonymanu]

:lol Keldon
:lol thinking you’re the star cause you had some playing time in the Olympics

[Chinook]

Honestly not that bad. They need to get Sochan in the screen game more and get Wemby some shots in the mid-post. If they're going to put him on the perimeter, they need to have someone screen for him to help him drive. The Spurs actually can win this game.

[Joseph Kony]

Feels like spurs should be down by 30. they're lucky to only be down 14. Knicks are prone to choking so if Wemby pulls his head out of his ass in the second half spurs can get back in it

[J_Paco]

This might be a 30 win team at best. I mean yeah it’s a full season to turn it around but we literally have no vets with experience, and all just young players that only know how to hero ball.

McDermott and Graham are the vets, but McDermott is ass on defense and Graham doesn't play.

This recent run of games is exactly why I want Keldon to be spark plug off the bench or to trade for an OG Anunoby type.

[MannyIsGod]

Just mind blowing to me how the Spurs coaches refuse to try to put Wemby in offensive positions to be successful. I don't even think he needs much, but god damn its either take a 3, get the ball in the post where he can't really shine yet, or go stand in the corner while we have isolation ball.

I understood this shit last year, but now I don't get it at all.

[spurraider21]

It's funny how Pop seems to only experiment with bringing Vassell off the bench. Never Keldon or Sochan. Pop decided Sochan, Keldon and Collins would start no matter what.
my thought was he was going to come off the bench and play very limited minutes, but he's got nearly as much as branham, so yeah.... i have no clue

[Chinook]

tre has single handedly gifted the knicks about 3 wide open three point shots by gambling for steals then finding himself out of the play

Tre? The threes hit on him that I've seen came from him going under on the screen and the other Spur not hedging up to stop the shot. Keldon did give up a three but diving for a steal and sliding into the back court.

[BackHome]

After tonight's loss, we're headed to Memphis Grizzlies territory. At least their point differential is respectable.

I think our next games are - Wolves, Heat, OK, Kings, then Grizz. We at least should win one right?

[MultiTroll]

keldon had wemby wide open for a lob...
This bullshit is beyond old.
Needed to be corrected 6 games ago.

[emanueldavidginobili]

15 min and 5 shots and he hasn't had a single shot attempt in the paint the entire game....I think. They need to find a way to call some plays and get him in the paint. I love Keldon but I thought he would be much better at this point in his career.

[Raven]

keldon had wemby wide open for a lob...
yeah didn't get that one

[MultiTroll]

Just mind blowing to me how the Spurs coaches refuse to try to put Wemby in offensive positions to be successful. I don't even think he needs much, but god damn its either take a 3, get the ball in the post where he can't really shine yet, or go stand in the corner while we have isolation ball.

I understood this shit last year, but now I don't get it at all.
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.sxK9hagUfxvsmcc3TiL61gHaDt?pid=ImgDet&rs=1

[onechance87]

We are giving this game to the knicks...lazy defence,Not rebounding,And taking to many jump shots...attack that rim

[MannyIsGod]

Keldon isn't going to find people at all. He's just not a very good passer and really gets tunnel vision. I'm not surprised he didn't find Wemby. I can't think of many times when on a drive Keldon created a shot for another person.

[emanueldavidginobili]

keldon had wemby wide open for a lob...
Yeah I couldn't believe he didn't even consider throwing it. Everyone that is watching saw that but the player on the court had no idea, or just didn't want to pass it to him.

[spurraider21]

Keldon isn't going to find people at all. He's just not a very good passer and really gets tunnel vision. I'm not surprised he didn't find Wemby. I can't think of many times when on a drive Keldon created a shot for another person.
im astonished that its not made enough of a point of emphasis though. when running the break, option A should be to look for victor for a pass up ahead. option b should be a lob to victor. and then option c should also be a lob for victor.

[Raven]

Honestly not that bad. They need to get Sochan in the screen game more and get Wemby some shots in the mid-post. If they're going to put him on the perimeter, they need to have someone screen for him to help him drive. The Spurs actually can win this game.

i mean.. they are getting devoured in the paint... knicks are playing autopilot and getting everything they want in the process..

[dbestpro]

Spurs players are stubborn when it comes to Wemby. They keep repeating the same mistakes over and over. I wish mad Pop would appear and stop playing nice to these guys and give all of them the Parker treatment.

[Chinook]

my thought was he was going to come off the bench and play very limited minutes, but he's got nearly as much as branham, so yeah.... i have no clue

He's done it the past two years. To put it into perspective, Devin has only started 43 percent of the games he's played. Keldon has started 91 percent. Sochan has started 95 percent. Jones has 43 percent of his games despite having multiple other guards ahead of him for half of his time in the NBA. Collins has started 38 percent of his Spurs games despite Poeltl being traded less than a season ago.

[wildbill2u]

I notice that Wemby doesn't have much strength in his hands. Opposing players regularly rip the ball away from him, especially on rebounds and in scrambles under the basket.

[freetiago]

Victor hasn’t gotten the ball thrown to him in the paint since the Suns game. Got to much attention can’t do it again

[Chinook]

i mean.. they are getting devoured in the paint... knicks are playing autopilot and getting everything they want in the process..

But to put it into perspective, the Spurs actually won the second quarter. They need to get Wemby's head in the game but this is a winnable situation.

[Marcus Bryant]

Alright, let’s play some better ball in the 2nd half.

[J_Paco]

im astonished that its not made enough of a point of emphasis though. when running the break, option A should be to look for victor for a pass up ahead. option b should be a lob to victor. and then option c should also be a lob for victor.

I don't think the issue is a lack of emphasis and more so that Keldon isn't a good passer. He lacks vision and throws a lot of errant passes.

I would much rather have a wing with size, defense, and some playmaking (Sidy, maybe?) playing off of Wemby and Vassell. If the team is willing to part ways with better prospects/players like Derrick White and DeJounte Murray, then there is no way Keldon is our long - term solution at starting SF.

[Tyronn Lue]

Spurs players are stubborn when it comes to Wemby. They keep repeating the same mistakes over and over. I wish mad Pop would appear and stop playing nice to these guys and give all of them the Parker treatment.
Maybe Pop is waiting for Victor to demand the ball, to come to Pop saying what the actual fuck Pop.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Pop has been bad for about 9 years now, but what’s even worse is he’s gotten soft. if Danny green would make the mistakes these players do he would borderline abuse him.

[Joseph Kony]

spurs should go after Quickley in the offseason

[MannyIsGod]

Jesus fucking christ

[Joseph Kony]

keldon is a fucking scrub. low IQ player all the way around. trade this bum

[baseline bum]

JFC Keldon get your head in the game

[Refocus]

cannot believe hubie brown's old ass is still commentating

[John B]

They can’t start slow like this and play catch up everytime. They need to establish the offense quick, and it doesn’t help that’s it’s Sochan playing the main facilitator. Defensively though Tre gets beat a lot

[spurraider21]

he missed, but the fact that barrett had a wide open 3 because multiple people went to double the ball handler is damning enough

[DAF86]

Just tuned in. Vassell not starting because of minutes restriction I want to believe.

[Raven]

the open threes we allow are just mindblowing

[dbestpro]

: Give up nine 3-pointers, commit nine turnovers, allow 12 second-chance points.

[spurraider21]

oh look, sochan posting up against a "mismatched defender" and clanking a ball off the front rim

[FkLA]

Poor Wemby, man. Calls for the ball every single time down the court (excessively tbf :lol) and literally gets ignored every single time. Seems odd.

[Dex]

This team, somehow...looks worse than last year.

[sananspursfan21]

No fire, no effort to start the 3rd. Pretty flat all game, but this start is pathetic.

[onechance87]

I don't think the issue is a lack of emphasis and more so that Keldon isn't a good passer. He lacks vision and throws a lot of errant passes.

I would much rather have a wing with size, defense, and some playmaking (Sidy, maybe?) playing off of Wemby and Vassell. If the team is willing to part ways with better prospects/players like Derrick White and DeJounte Murray, then there is no way Keldon is our long - term solution at starting SF.

sidy would have have found wemby easy for sure....Was such a obvious play...Just shows kj has no iq...
That play could of got wemby going and change ghe momentom of the game...but not on kj time i guess

[J_Paco]

spurs should go after Quickley in the offseason

A younger, little bit bigger version of DeVonte Graham. He'd probably be great as a starter or a 6th man off the bench (depending on who we draft).

[Dex]

Poor Wemby, man. Calls for the ball every single time down the court (excessively tbf :lol) and literally gets ignored every single time. Seems odd.

It's like in NBA2K when you smash the "call for ball" button and somehow get a negative grade despite being the only one who can score.

[YoungbuckMurray]

The defense is atrocious

[Marcus Bryant]

Hey, the really tall guy on your team is good, maybe get him the rock?

[Chinook]

Yeah I couldn't believe he didn't even consider throwing it. Everyone that is watching saw that but the player on the court had no idea, or just didn't want to pass it to him.

I may have missed the play folks are talking about, but I did notice in some of those videos where people show the Spurs missing Wemby that he's not open at all. Like in one video, Victor is standing directly under the basket surrounded by three guards. Where do you throw the ball? The rim is blocking anything high. He let guards push him out of position. That sort of thing happens a lot, especially in situations where he sprints down the floor looking for his.

Like he was just calling for a lob when the rest of the team was running actions that got Keldon a free drive to the rim. What is he doing? Is he not paying any attention to what's going on around him?

I honestly think the Spurs' plan to put Wemby on a shooter and have him hopefully get weakside contests is off-base. He's not scoring enough and not doing enough else on offense to not play active defense. Put him in these actions. Maybe if he's involved more on defense, he'll be more engaged on offense and not just float around looking for chances for him to score.

[Big Empty]

White flag. We suck. Collins is useless. We have no defense. Noone can shoot. Noone can defend. Good news is we’ll atleast have a top 10 draft pick. Everyone but Wemby/Vassel/Osmen needs to be traded

[boutons_deux]

While we're experimenting with lineups, I want to see Wemby at center, and bring in Barlow at PF. It has to be better than this shit.

Experimental lineups isn't the problem

Spurs can't score

Spurs can't defend

Very little team play

Just crappy basketball no matter who's on the court

[heyheymymy]

Welp fuck

[Refocus]

Shit, i'd ignore him this game too. He looked horrible the first half.

[Fizziksman]

Teams are going to play the Spurs like they are playing against the Lakers, Warriors etc because of Wemby. Gonna be rough.

[boutons_deux]

Compared to all the hype which continues

VW is turning out to be a bust

[spurraider21]

He's done it the past two years. To put it into perspective, Devin has only started 43 percent of the games he's played. Keldon has started 91 percent. Sochan has started 95 percent. Jones has 43 percent of his games despite having multiple other guards ahead of him for half of his time in the NBA. Collins has started 38 percent of his Spurs games despite Poeltl being traded less than a season ago.
he started 84% of his games last year (and even then, his bench games were usually when getting back into the swing of things coming off injuries), and 5/6 this year

[MannyIsGod]

I just don't get using him like this at all. Its downright infuriating.

[weebo]

Ya this team is young but gotdam they're also so very dumb

[Raven]

ready to throw the white flag on the game tbh

[Frenchfred]

Wemby cannot score today, this is awful

[jeebus]

Remember when it took Pop all of 4 games to switch things up, benching Antonio Daniels for a rookie Tony Parker? Good ol days of coaching, instead of trying the same thing over and over again.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Dunk the damn ball collins

[Chinook]

he started 84% of his games last year, and 5/6 this year

Because he was the clear-cut option for two-guard. Johnson hasn't been the clear-cut option for anything and still kept starting. Both Keldon and Sochan were injured too, but Pop didn't think long stints off the bench made sense for them. It's only Vassell whom Pop seems to want to try in that position.

[baseline bum]

Wasn't even this frustrated with Pop back when he'd run Bonner and Blair out together

[YoungbuckMurray]

Give some of the deep bench guys some minutes can’t be as bad as who is playing right now

[freetiago]

Collins 4 fouls stays in. Victor gets subbed out immediately after 1 shot

[Dex]

Yep, tank it again and let's add to Wemby.

We just got rolled by the fucking Pacers and Knicks. These are NOT good teams.

This group ain't it

[TimDunkem]

"Aww, man...that's just bad basketball" - Hubie Brown :lmao

[KobesAchilles]

Remember when it took Pop all of 4 games to switch things up, benching Antonio Daniels for a rookie Tony Parker? Good ol days of coaching, instead of trying the same thing over and over again.
Back when he was an actual coach. And we didn’t have to wait 4 years to know the obvious. Shit if people on Spurstalk now were on it back then Tony never would’ve played. Just give Antonio Daniels more time…

[weebo]

send wembanyama down the the gleauge

[baseline bum]

The defense is atrocious

At least they're making up for it with their offense

[rascal]

Spurs can't even finish on the fast break. They need to add some athleticism on this team.

[spursparker9]

Collins 4 fouls stays in. Victor gets subbed out immediately after 1 shot

:pop need to manage his minutes for his 10+ years career with Spurs

[sananspursfan21]

I think for the first time, I’m pro trading everyone that doesn’t rhyme with Jembanyama

[Dex]

Hubie Brown: "That's bad basketball"

[boutons_deux]

Third quarter

Spurs score two points in 5 minutes

Nicks score 17

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[Dverde]

I want some nasty. Nice drive by Osman.

[J_Paco]

Yeah, Keldon is dogshit on defense and is too small to slow down Randle. Just let Victor play him and get used to the physicality of a guy like Randle.

Instead, you defend him with Keldon's small ass, Randle is going on offense and finding his teammates. SMDH

[Chomag]

How the hell is this team worse then they were last year?

Need a new coach?

[baseline bum]

Ugh wish Like a Dragon Gaiden came out today instead of tomorrow on XBox Game Pass so I could play that shit instead of watching this abortion of a game

[onechance87]

Yep, tank it again and let's add to Wemby.

We just got rolled by the fucking Pacers and Knicks. These are NOT good teams.

This group ain't it

Man....Im not even hopefull another lottery pick can improve this team....We gotta gut this whole roster..
Role players are terrible,No talent,no iq,And no heart...

[Arcadian]

This season was supposed to be fun to watch at least.

Why is it not being fun to watch?

[Dex]

This team's idea of rebounding is....watch the ball and see where it lands.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Would be nice if they could make a wide open 3, and if teams didn’t make every single shot they looked at

[Jay.From.NbTx]

Wtf happened they looked so good against the suns and then just forgot how to play basketball since then I guess.
What a shit show

[Chomag]

This season was supposed to be fun to watch at least.

Why is it not being fun to watch?
:Pop:

[skin27]

Wemby looking like a bust.smh

[weebo]

can't even hit open jumpers :lol