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spurraider21
05-15-2024, 10:25 PM
OKC’s vaunted loaded roster doesn’t seem all that loaded tbh

benefactor
05-15-2024, 10:33 PM
We aren't going to see this movie again are we?:lol

Tyronn Lue
05-15-2024, 10:34 PM
Hero ball here we come

Robz4000
05-15-2024, 10:35 PM
We aren't going to see this movie again are we?:lol

PJ Washington saving them it looks like.

Knoxxx
05-15-2024, 10:36 PM
SGA lost one pant leg and Williams missing a shoe.

Tyronn Lue
05-15-2024, 10:38 PM
I like how Shaq said if SGA didn't get it this year he'd have to start over next year. Isn't that how it always works? (MVP)

If SGA is at that level, it shouldn't be an issue. He's certainly in that realm.

Strategic
05-15-2024, 10:41 PM
OKC looking hard for a guy if they’re using rookie Wallace

Robz4000
05-15-2024, 10:42 PM
:lmao Holgrem

Tyronn Lue
05-15-2024, 10:42 PM
:lol Chet getting turnt down.

Silentbob
05-15-2024, 10:42 PM
oof.. chet three got blocked by jones.

Tyronn Lue
05-15-2024, 10:44 PM
D-fence (both ends)

benefactor
05-15-2024, 10:44 PM
:lolKC...all that work in the previous game just to come home and shit the bed

Robz4000
05-15-2024, 10:46 PM
OKC kinda reminds me of D'Antoni teams tbh; they're mostly finesse.

benefactor
05-15-2024, 10:49 PM
OKC kinda reminds me of D'Antoni teams tbh; they're mostly finesse.
Except those teams had really good role players. This OKC team has a bunch of guys that are supposed to be good that have not shown up at all.

benefactor
05-15-2024, 10:50 PM
Now Luka gets to rest until Saturday. Dallas closes them out at home.

Mr. Body
05-15-2024, 10:50 PM
OKC’s vaunted loaded roster doesn’t seem all that loaded tbh

I've been saying this. If Doncic was healthy, this series might already be over.

SGA is superior, but depends on the midrange and getting calls. Jalen Williams was a steal but has a ceiling. Holmgren is perfect for them, but is too slight to dominate the boards like they need. Dort can be a very good defender. What else do they have for all those high draft picks?

benefactor
05-15-2024, 10:52 PM
I've been saying this. If Doncic was healthy, this series might already be over.

SGA is superior, but depends on the midrange and getting calls. Jalen Williams was a steal but has a ceiling. Holmgren is perfect for them, but is too slight to dominate the boards like they need. Dort can be a very good defender. What else do they have for all those high draft picks?
All Dallas had to do was make a few more free throws and it would have been over already. Dallas choking is the only reason this series is still happening.

Mr. Body
05-15-2024, 10:52 PM
OKC kinda reminds me of D'Antoni teams tbh; they're mostly finesse.

It is a finesse team that has to learn to crank up to another level in the POs but the roster seems weirdly scant for how good they are in the regular season. They crank out the 3s but if they're not falling, they don't have anything else. Really is a Pringles team.

spurraider21
05-15-2024, 10:54 PM
I've been saying this. If Doncic was healthy, this series might already be over.

SGA is superior, but depends on the midrange and getting calls. Jalen Williams was a steal but has a ceiling. Holmgren is perfect for them, but is too slight to dominate the boards like they need. Dort can be a very good defender. What else do they have for all those high draft picks?
I like Wallace but he’s a rookie. Chet is getting his first postseason action as a rookie*. I’ll cut them some slack. But Giddey, yeesh. Joe has been a non factor which is disappointing. Wiggins looked good in game 1 but vanished since.

Mr. Body
05-15-2024, 11:01 PM
I like Wallace but he’s a rookie. Chet is getting his first postseason action as a rookie*. I’ll cut them some slack. But Giddey, yeesh. Joe has been a non factor which is disappointing. Wiggins looked good in game 1 but vanished since.

I'm fine cutting Wallace slack. Holmgren looks fantastic, but again they get crushed on the boards. Maybe in the future Chet gets more than 4 rebounds, but he's so slight and may not get the needed strength. Really feels like they need to change their super-small philosophy and add some size somehow.

Their vaunted defense doesn't really work as well facing superior players like Doncic. That's a truism, of course, but if they faced the Lakers in the first round, I don't think they would have made it through.

In the end, it's a little baffling why they seem bereft of depth. Where is everybody? They need to upgrade Isaiah Joe badly.

Their pick situation is going to be interesting. They have a ridiculous number of picks in the next few years, but they're heavily protected and/or come from teams like the Clippers, Houston, and Denver. They can, and should, trade for talent, but those picks aren't super sweet individually.

benefactor
05-15-2024, 11:08 PM
As much as free throws we're a story the previous game, the story this game was OKC getting absolutely mauled at the rim. It felt like every other possession a lob was getting flushed.

Mr. Body
05-15-2024, 11:09 PM
No one helped Dallas become a vastly better defensive team from last off-season through the trade deadline more than Oklahoma City.

DAF86
05-15-2024, 11:22 PM
OKC’s vaunted loaded roster doesn’t seem all that loaded tbh

Non shooters reverting back on the playoffs, when teams scheme specially to leave those guys open, despite those guys shooting 40% from 3 during the regular season.

Role players need to be good shooters, tbh.

Spurs Homer
05-15-2024, 11:42 PM
Shai appears to get lots of calls…almost at will…

tonight he didnt get every call and they had little chance of winning…

MultiTroll
05-16-2024, 12:14 AM
D-fence (both ends)
Yep.

OKC role guards failing to contain Doncic and shitting the bed themselves shooting was a key.
7-27 / 5-21 treys Joe Dort Wallace combined.

I don't think Chet and SGA shit the bed, rather the above.
More shots for Chet too if i am coach.

John B
05-16-2024, 12:18 AM
OKC’s vaunted loaded roster doesn’t seem all that loaded tbh

OKC’s youth and inexperience will catch up with them at the playoffs. They needed a Jrue Holiday just to steady the boat. But they’ll be fine next year… dammit

poopbox
05-16-2024, 12:18 AM
One thing these playoffs has shown is that defense is more about how the refs call the game than what the players do on the court. Now that refs are "letting them play" all these teams who routinely scored around 120 are struggling to crack a 100

John B
05-16-2024, 12:52 AM
The more I watch Derrick in the playoffs, the more I want him back

GAustex
05-16-2024, 12:57 AM
Like he’d want to come back

Obstructed_View
05-16-2024, 01:11 AM
One thing these playoffs has shown is that defense is more about how the refs call the game than what the players do on the court. Now that refs are "letting them play" all these teams who routinely scored around 120 are struggling to crack a 100

And how they call the game is a) hugely important to the outcome and b) utterly mystifying. I watched the league MVP take an obvious elbow to the chin and they let it go, then teed up his coach for noticing.

timtonymanu
05-16-2024, 03:09 AM
Like he’d want to come back

I mean if the Celtics don't win again this year, he would have to consider coming back to play with Wemby. I rather have him than Trae young or Murray.

Mr. Body
05-16-2024, 06:48 AM
And how they call the game is a) hugely important to the outcome and b) utterly mystifying. I watched the league MVP take an obvious elbow to the chin and they let it go, then teed up his coach for noticing.

Jokic famously gets no calls.

MultiTroll
05-16-2024, 07:51 AM
Bernie Bickerstaff without Mitchell and Jaret Allen.
WTH is he supposed to do?

Yet purportedly under heat from ownership because they claim the minutes he played Mitchell may have caused the injury.

R. DeMurre
05-16-2024, 10:11 AM
Looking at Denver, OKC, Minnesota, and Dallas, you see the combo of draft picks that hit and then at least one major trade move that hits-- Shai, Aaron Gordon, Gobert & Conley, Irving, Gafford, PJ.... this is the area where Brian Wright still has to prove himself. He's been good at nibbling around the edges to get draft picks and unloading role players for assets, but he has yet to make that significant move that brings in an actual high impact guy.

Strategic
05-16-2024, 10:32 AM
I've been saying this. If Doncic was healthy, this series might already be over

SGA is superior, but depends on the midrange and getting calls. Jalen Williams was a steal but has a ceiling. Holmgren is perfect for them, but is too slight to dominate the boards like they need. Dort can be a very good defender. What else do they have for all those high draft picks? If mavs don’t miss a dozen free throws in game 4 series should be over. The thunder need at least one of their wings to perform big in these games and nobody home. When Spurs get back to the playoffs they might be in the same dilemma. Hell, all teams are. I look for okc to be better for it next year. On the other end of it, mavs made some mid season support pickups that are carrying them.

Tyronn Lue
05-16-2024, 10:39 AM
Shai appears to get lots of calls…almost at will…

tonight he didnt get every call and they had little chance of winning…
3rd quarter and Mavs had 2 FTA, OKC had 4. It was uncanny, if I saw that right.

Spurs Homer
05-16-2024, 10:46 AM
3rd quarter and Mavs had 2 FTA, OKC had 4. It was uncanny, if I saw that right.

wasnt getting all the calls- okc loses- check

heyheymymy
05-16-2024, 10:47 AM
Looking at Denver, OKC, Minnesota, and Dallas, you see the combo of draft picks that hit and then at least one major trade move that hits-- Shai, Aaron Gordon, Gobert & Conley, Irving, Gafford, PJ.... this is the area where Brian Wright still has to prove himself. He's been good at nibbling around the edges to get draft picks and unloading role players for assets, but he has yet to make that significant move that brings in an actual high impact guy.

I'm a built not bought SA fan but starting to notice this template. I guess Giannis' last ring and then the GSW one were pretty original cast without going back and looking

Trying to find that one guy in Spurs rebuild isn't easy. It would be great if it was a player good but not name brand. Even better would be a former Spur coming back but only eligible player to the criteria would be imho White and not sure if that's realistic.

Just don't want ppl to say Wemby needed xyz established player to get there but if that's what it takes then so be it.

The Truth #6
05-16-2024, 11:03 AM
SGA seems pleasant but his low key flopping is annoying to me, but I'm glad the league is trying to move away from reinforcing such an annoying style of play for the league.

R. DeMurre
05-16-2024, 11:42 AM
I'm a built not bought SA fan but starting to notice this template. I guess Giannis' last ring and then the GSW one were pretty original cast without going back and looking

Trying to find that one guy in Spurs rebuild isn't easy. It would be great if it was a player good but not name brand. Even better would be a former Spur coming back but only eligible player to the criteria would be imho White and not sure if that's realistic.

Just don't want ppl to say Wemby needed xyz established player to get there but if that's what it takes then so be it.

Milwaukee had the Jrue Holiday trade and Golden State had the Iguodala trade early on and then the KD addition later. It's really hard to build a championship team without at least a few daring moves outside of the draft.

heyheymymy
05-16-2024, 12:03 PM
Milwaukee had the Jrue Holiday trade and Golden State had the Iguodala trade early on and then the KD addition later. It's really hard to build a championship team without at least a few daring moves outside of the draft.

Good call those were crucial roles I mean Iggy was a Finals MVP, granted debatable. An addition like Gordon for DEN is more my ideal. Somewhat relatively low key name recognition but serious enough talent to put them over the top. Just want to avoid the league shattering add-then-ring KG, Bron/Bosh, Pau, KD, Kawhi level stuff for Wemby. D White would be awesome because not only is he a position/role of need for SA, Spurs could just be technically like we planted this tree. Not going to happen though.

But yeah looks like you've always had to go out for the cherry on top player even the big 3 at least had their Finley and Horry was a ring mercenary, however this board rates those moves. But Fin was older and Idk Horry just felt like a natural move.

lefty
05-16-2024, 01:30 PM
Bernie Bickerstaff without Mitchell and Jaret Allen.
WTH is he supposed to do?

Yet purportedly under heat from ownership because they claim the minutes he played Mitchell may have caused the injury.
According to Cavs fans, his coaching since the All Star break has been terrible

exstatic
05-16-2024, 01:48 PM
What does this mean?

Everyone was comping him to MJ after they went up 2-0.

MultiTroll
05-16-2024, 01:58 PM
According to Cavs fans, his coaching since the All Star break has been terrible
The same bitches who whined when Lebron left the 2nd time?
After delivering a Chip, vs the Golden Phaggots no less.

exstatic
05-16-2024, 02:01 PM
Jabbar, Hakeem, Shaq, Russell, Wilt. Has Jokic cracked top 5 all-time centers yet?

The other question is are we seeing what peak Sabonis would have been like?

exstatic
05-16-2024, 02:03 PM
Either that or he just put a fire on Gobert’s behind to get him going. I’d take it as a challenge. Hey he’s the DPOY right?

Jokic proving media 100% right on MVP, and 100% wrong on DPOY.

R. DeMurre
05-16-2024, 02:05 PM
OKC and Minnesota still look pretty good in terms of team development to me. They're both really young, and have tradable assets-- Giddy in OKC's case, with Cason Wallace a guy who will play D and hit 3s ready to step in, and KAT for the T-Wolves, who some team will give up assets for. I'd bet against either winning a title this year, but to both be in the conference semis with such young squads has to labelled a success at this point.

exstatic
05-16-2024, 02:12 PM
OKC looking hard for a guy if they’re using rookie Wallace

Wallace had a nice year, and closed some games when it was determined that no one would ever guard Josh Giddey in the 4th quarter. Cason can handle, shoot, distribute, and play D.

exstatic
05-16-2024, 02:20 PM
If mavs don’t miss a dozen free throws in game 4 series should be over. The thunder need at least one of their wings to perform big in these games and nobody home. When Spurs get back to the playoffs they might be in the same dilemma. Hell, all teams are. I look for okc to be better for it next year. On the other end of it, mavs made some mid season support pickups that are carrying them.

Tbh, would anyone be surprised if Irving professed his undying love of Dallas in July, and demanded a trade in September?

LeBowen
05-16-2024, 02:27 PM
Tbh, would anyone be surprised if Irving professed his undying love of Dallas in July, and demanded a trade in September?

Tbh, it seems that Nico Harrison managed to settle him down.
Still, this is as good as the Mavs will be, they got no assets left.
DJJ is gone in the summer, they can't get anything positive for THJ and even if they just get rid of him, they're still over the cap.
Lively and maybe Josh Green can improve, but Kyrie is 32 and by the time they reach their peak, Kyrie will decline.

I'd say that this and maybe the next season is their best chance to win a ring.

exstatic
05-16-2024, 02:28 PM
OKC and Minnesota still look pretty good in terms of team development to me. They're both really young, and have tradable assets-- Giddy in OKC's case, with Cason Wallace a guy who will play D and hit 3s ready to step in, and KAT for the T-Wolves, who some team will give up assets for. I'd bet against either winning a title this year, but to both be in the conference semis with such young squads has to labelled a success at this point.

I think Giddey’s on court struggles, combined with trafficking minors and making Gloria Allred richer has dropped his value below a FRP. They’ve had him on the bench at the end of games for most of the season. KAT is just the big man version of Tobias Harris, a regular season guy who vanishes in the playoffs, but makes a shit ton off money.

skin27
05-16-2024, 02:41 PM
Media blaming gobert for joker erruption in game 5:lmao

MultiTroll
05-16-2024, 02:47 PM
Your prediction.

Will MN rise to the occasion and outright win or make Game 6 very competetive, close?
Or just lose in a not good way?

lefty
05-16-2024, 02:58 PM
The same bitches who whined when Lebron left the 2nd time?
After delivering a Chip, vs the Golden Phaggots no less.
I would be pissed if a GOAT level player left my team even after delivering the chip :lol

lefty
05-16-2024, 02:59 PM
Media blaming gobert for joker erruption in game 5:lmao
Fucking clowns

Nobody was going to stop Joker

Has Draymond ever put the clamps on Jokic?
I don't think so

Mr. Body
05-16-2024, 03:03 PM
Your prediction.

Will MN rise to the occasion and outright win or make Game 6 very competetive, close?
Or just lose in a not good way?

I don't think Minny has enough horses on offense. They can't stop Jokic, so have to outscore and can't do it.

Mr. Body
05-16-2024, 03:03 PM
Fucking clowns

Nobody was going to stop Joker

Has Draymond ever put the clamps on Jokic?
I don't think so

Considering every time I've seen the Warriors face Denver, Draymond has managed to jab his fingers into Jokic's eye sockets, he's certainly tried.

LeBowen
05-16-2024, 03:04 PM
Fucking clowns

Nobody was going to stop Joker

Has Draymond ever put the clamps on Jokic?
I don't think so

Biggest piece of shit in the league.
Talking about how he would've done better.

In 2022 when they won a ring, Jokic averaged 31/13/6 on 58% against them.
His rotation in that series was Will Barton, Monte Morris, Jeff Green, Aaron Gordon, Bones Hyland, JaMychal Green, Austin Rivers, Bryn Forbes and Demarcus Cousins. :lmao
Other than Gordon, just two years later not a single one of those players has a relevant role on an NBA team.

TD 21
05-16-2024, 03:29 PM
Media blaming gobert for joker erruption in game 5:lmao

I know, as if there's any more he could have done on a bunch of those shots. He's "held" him to 19/37 (51.3%) as the primary defender in the series, well below his regular season mark of 58.3%, but they conveniently leave that out.

Gobert and Towns are two of their favorite punching bags, so if/when they go on to lose they'll receive the blame. It won't be the pseudo "next Jordan/Bryant" that they're desperately trying to market as the face of the league despite his barely playing at an All-NBA level four seasons in nor the white coach (Finch), of course.

John B
05-16-2024, 04:48 PM
Joker is a perfect storm. He can bully score inside, he has shooting outside, he can pass when double-team, he can sink his FT when fouled. The only thing MIN can do is tire him, force him to play both side of the court, get him in foul-trouble. I’d be going at him everytime. And pray he gets tired and start missing.

Strategic
05-16-2024, 06:10 PM
Joker is a perfect storm. He can bully score inside, he has shooting outside, he can pass when double-team, he can sink his FT when fouled. The only thing MIN can do is tire him, force him to play both side of the court, get him in foul-trouble. I’d be going at him everytime. And pray he gets tired and start missing. Jokic has the wherewithal that I hope Wemby develops with time. Actually the teams future success rests with that.

Tyronn Lue
05-16-2024, 06:22 PM
Everyone was comping him to MJ after they went up 2-0.
I got that already. Did your comment mean Michael never lost in the post season or never had a good game, or you think they were comparing him to 72 wins season Jordan? I think people are comparing him for aesthetic reasons, for the eyeball test reasons. He's not done anything yet but neither did Mike in his early days. He's not going to have MJ's career level. He does move like Mike, jumps like Mike, looks like Mike, has the armband up high like Mike, has the swag Mike had, and plays well enough to not be laughed out of the room at the comparison. He didn't make the comparison and it's not a bandwagon comment.

lefty20
05-16-2024, 06:24 PM
Joker is a perfect storm. He can bully score inside, he has shooting outside, he can pass when double-team, he can sink his FT when fouled. The only thing MIN can do is tire him, force him to play both side of the court, get him in foul-trouble. I’d be going at him everytime. And pray he gets tired and start missing.

For a chonker, he has a surprising amount of stamina & endurance. Bro never looks gassed.

tonight...you
05-16-2024, 06:32 PM
I got that already. Did your comment mean Michael never lost in the post season or never had a good game, or you think they were comparing him to 72 wins season Jordan? I think people are comparing him for aesthetic reasons, for the eyeball test reasons. He's not done anything yet but neither did Mike in his early days. He's not going to have MJ's career level. He does move like Mike, jumps like Mike, looks like Mike, has the armband up high like Mike, has the swag Mike had, and plays well enough to not be laughed out of the room at the comparison. He didn't make the comparison and it's not a bandwagon comment.
This post brought about a total nostalgia moment bringing up the Like Mike commercials from the 90's.

Raven
05-16-2024, 07:08 PM
Everyone was comping him to MJ after they went up 2-0.

Think it's a fair comparison tbf, games look somewhat similar compared to other current stars

spurs10
05-16-2024, 07:13 PM
Maybe Anthony Edwards will get pissed and move his talents to SA!! Dreaming is free!

GAustex
05-16-2024, 07:39 PM
I mean if the Celtics don't win again this year, he would have to consider coming back to play with Wemby. I rather have him than Trae young or Murray.

Agree that if it were me I would want White the winner over Trae or DJM especially for the price.

I just do not think Spurs/VM have proven that they can rise up to contender level ( not popular here I am sure and I could be wrong) so if I am White I am looking to stay with Celts or going to a proven situation.
Popabitch’s shitshow ain’t changing anytime soon.

Raven
05-16-2024, 07:42 PM
think denver - pups is still very much open, would be a bummer if it doesn't go to game 7

Raven
05-16-2024, 07:48 PM
kat just shitting the bed yet again tbh

skin27
05-16-2024, 07:51 PM
Wolves vs Nuugets is a best example of good offense always beat good defense.

MultiTroll
05-16-2024, 07:57 PM
Lazy passes by Denver leading to Turns early.

heyheymymy
05-16-2024, 08:03 PM
damn 18-0 timby run over 5:27

MultiTroll
05-16-2024, 08:03 PM
20-0 run in the 1st qtr are you kidding me.

MN looks good and Denver looks sluggish.

lefty
05-16-2024, 08:04 PM
20-0 :lol

Knoxxx
05-16-2024, 08:07 PM
Wemby can handle Joker 1 v 1.

NASpurs
05-16-2024, 08:08 PM
Seems like it'll be one of those games where the home team blows their load in the first half and then chokes it away.

Mr. Body
05-16-2024, 08:09 PM
Feel like the SAS used to do this. Let a team on the ropes expend their energy. Either get them in the second half or wipe them out in the clincher. Team energy/psychology is a big thing.

lefty
05-16-2024, 08:13 PM
Seems like it'll be one of those games where the home team blows their load in the first half and then chokes it away.

more like blow their load tonight and get jizzed on in G7

lefty
05-16-2024, 08:13 PM
omg I hate Fivehead’s shooting form

Strategic
05-16-2024, 08:17 PM
Damn Jokic

MultiTroll
05-16-2024, 08:17 PM
Joker must feel like Wemby with all these nice feeds he gives the trey chuckers.

NASpurs
05-16-2024, 08:18 PM
more like blow their load tonight and get jizzed on in G7

Minny hasn't proven shit though. I think they'll choke this game away.

MultiTroll
05-16-2024, 08:18 PM
This game feel like all parties have agreed it's going 7?

I'm not a MN hater, rather seems like Denver and for that matter a few on MN are sleepwalking thru a script.

Strategic
05-16-2024, 08:32 PM
Nuggets lookin like a bunch of chuckers in the first half. They got Reggie Jackson playin. Lol

benefactor
05-16-2024, 08:33 PM
Been busy tonight and haven't been watching. Wtf:lol

Strategic
05-16-2024, 08:35 PM
They might get 40 by half

Strategic
05-16-2024, 08:36 PM
Nuggets need KJ coming off their bench. Too bad they don’t have anything to deal

Tyronn Lue
05-16-2024, 08:36 PM
MVP celebration hangover. If Joker isn't beasting, we know Murray is often a later bloomer in games.

lefty
05-16-2024, 08:37 PM
Nuggets lookin like a bunch of chuckers in the first half. They got Reggie Jackson playin. Lol

the irony of chucker MPJ going to the rim and making good passes while his teammates are shooting dumb 3s lol

benefactor
05-16-2024, 09:03 PM
Edwards :wow

MultiTroll
05-16-2024, 09:03 PM
Are we supposed to be impressed when Ant makes a wide open dunk off of blown coverage and then stares into the sideline crowd?

Ef-man
05-16-2024, 09:06 PM
Edwards :wow

Thanks to Jovic assist

benefactor
05-16-2024, 09:22 PM
Jesus Denver

exstatic
05-16-2024, 09:25 PM
I got that already. Did your comment mean Michael never lost in the post season or never had a good game, or you think they were comparing him to 72 wins season Jordan? I think people are comparing him for aesthetic reasons, for the eyeball test reasons. He's not done anything yet but neither did Mike in his early days. He's not going to have MJ's career level. He does move like Mike, jumps like Mike, looks like Mike, has the armband up high like Mike, has the swag Mike had, and plays well enough to not be laughed out of the room at the comparison. He didn't make the comparison and it's not a bandwagon comment.

The guy had zero playoff series wins, and they’re comping him to Jordan. Ridiculous.

heyheymymy
05-16-2024, 09:31 PM
where the fuck was this D from Minny in the middle of the series they are stifling tonight

it's playoffs you can't take a night off

crazy dual wingspan on NAW and McDaniels

benefactor
05-16-2024, 09:36 PM
30. Time to wave the white flag

exstatic
05-16-2024, 09:39 PM
I got that already. Did your comment mean Michael never lost in the post season or never had a good game, or you think they were comparing him to 72 wins season Jordan? I think people are comparing him for aesthetic reasons, for the eyeball test reasons. He's not done anything yet but neither did Mike in his early days. He's not going to have MJ's career level. He does move like Mike, jumps like Mike, looks like Mike, has the armband up high like Mike, has the swag Mike had, and plays well enough to not be laughed out of the room at the comparison. He didn't make the comparison and it's not a bandwagon comment.

The guy had zero playoff series wins, and they’re comping him to Jordan. Ridiculous. Jordan was about results, not optics. Plenty of guys looked like Mike, but didn’t win.

Strategic
05-16-2024, 09:40 PM
If mavs win tomorrow they’ll have couple extra days for doncic to lick his wounds.

spurraider21
05-16-2024, 09:54 PM
The guy had zero playoff series wins, and they’re comping him to Jordan. Ridiculous.
did they say edwards is the greatest player of all time? or that he's as good as jordan? or just that there are a lot of similarities in their game and athletic profile?

michael didnt win a playoff series until his 4th season in the league when he was 26 years old :lol

skin27
05-16-2024, 10:05 PM
Its going to ba a close game 7

skin27
05-16-2024, 10:10 PM
did they say edwards is the greatest player of all time? or that he's as good as jordan? or just that there are a lot of similarities in their game and athletic profile?

michael didnt win a playoff series until his 4th season in the league when he was 26 years old :lol

Actually he was 24 in his 4th season

Tyronn Lue
05-16-2024, 10:13 PM
Actually he was 24 in his 4th season
Mike was just shy of 22 when he entered the NBA. No way he was 2 years older 4 years later. He was good but not that good.

Robz4000
05-16-2024, 10:16 PM
Its going to ba a close game 7

I could literally see anything happening tbh. This series has been hard to predict quarter to quarter, much less game to game.

heyheymymy
05-16-2024, 10:20 PM
Since Spurs fans are in offseason mode, on this day in 2007:



Game 5 was played May 16 at the US Airways Center. After leading by as many as 16 points in the second quarter and ahead 79–71 with 5:18 to play, Bruce Bowen hit a three-pointer with 36.4 seconds to go ahead and the Suns lost the game 88–85. The Suns, without Stoudemire and Diaw because of the aforementioned one-game suspension, were led by Shawn Marion who scored 24 points and collected 17 rebounds; all but four of those points were scored in the second half. Kurt Thomas, playing in place of Stoudemire, had 15 points and 12 rebounds. Steve Nash finished with 19 points and 12 assists. Manu Ginobili scored 15 of his 26 points in the final quarter to lead the Spurs to the late rally as the Suns ran out of energy down the stretch.

heyheymymy
05-16-2024, 10:39 PM
That was such an electrifying series. Spurs Suns 2007 semis was a battle with Nash getting the busted nose G1 and Horry hip check G4. That G5 was nuts SA trailed by 16 and pretty much the whole game. Mounted a huge comeback on the road with Bowen nailing the go ahead 3 inside a min left in the game.

Amare and Boris suspended of course so the Suns ran out of steam. I remember liking the path if we could just get past PHX. UTH was a breeze in the WCF and Parker went nuclear which led to the FMVP. WCF and Finals was elite Parker where he feasted on weak matchups. I remember being so afraid of that DET CLE series cause I wanted CLE but then kinda worrying that "king James" would be a handful. I was at a huge house party near UTSA for G4 2007 Finals where SA swept CLE and there were people out in the streets celebrating with waving broomsticks in their hands. Only drawback was winning in CLE was kinda tame.

Spurs owe it all to Baron Davis lol. The GSW knocking out DAL in round 1 was absurd and still one of the best shock upsets I've seen. What a team. Nelly led, shooters lined up all along the arc. You'd have Davis, Barnes, Captian Jack and Peitrus all out there like a shooting gallery.

The Golden State Warriors became the third eighth seed to beat a top seed and the first team to do so since the first round was extended to a best of seven in 2003. The Warriors were also the first team to eliminate a top seed since the 1999 New York Knicks’ Cinderella run to the Finals.

With the loss, the Dallas Mavericks earned the dubious distinction of becoming the first (and currently only) .800 regular season team to lose in the first round. With the win, the Golden State Warriors also won their first playoff series since 1991.

Lol Mavs fans

Raven
05-16-2024, 10:41 PM
well that was fun

spurraider21
05-16-2024, 11:00 PM
Actually he was 24 in his 4th season
he turned 25 before the playoffs. but ye i was off by a year

John B
05-16-2024, 11:47 PM
I have to say I’m enjoying the dramas of this year playoffs, especially the early exit of LeBron, KD and Curry didn’t even make it to the playoffs. Instead watching ANT take it to the defending Champions with young confidence, The Jokić manhandled the “DPOY”, Brunson and the Nova brothers playing great together, Derrick overachieving. I hate Doncic, but he’s silenced OKC’s thunder. I like it.

lefty
05-17-2024, 08:18 AM
did they say edwards is the greatest player of all time? or that he's as good as jordan? or just that there are a lot of similarities in their game and athletic profile?

michael didnt win a playoff series until his 4th season in the league when he was 26 years old :lol

This
His PR machine wants people to believe his career started in 1991

daslicer
05-17-2024, 08:23 AM
I have to say I’m enjoying the dramas of this year playoffs, especially the early exit of LeBron, KD and Curry didn’t even make it to the playoffs. Instead watching ANT take it to the defending Champions with young confidence, The Jokić manhandled the “DPOY”, Brunson and the Nova brothers playing great together, Derrick overachieving. I hate Doncic, but he’s silenced OKC’s thunder. I like it.

I would say the Warriors-Lebron era which was from the fall of 2014 to the summer of 2022 was my least favorite era of the NBA. No real rivalries during that time period. The playoffs for the most part was just Lebron and Warriors owning the league. With those 2 old and not having super teams we are now getting to see competition again in the playoffs which is fun to see.

spurraider21
05-17-2024, 12:24 PM
This
His PR machine wants people to believe his career started in 1991
can you imagine exstatic back then?

i wouldnt trade alvin for him. media keeps anointing MJ but he's just a loser. he's 28 years old, league gave him a fake mvp to hype up the "new face" and despite all this and an aging celtics team he hasnt even made the finals once. why is this year going to be any different?

heyheymymy
05-17-2024, 08:39 PM
wow brunson started 2-2 and 0-10 since

Ef-man
05-17-2024, 10:44 PM
Damn Thibodeau, always plays his starters hard to the end. Bastard even combs the few hairs on the front of his head!

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fas01.epimg.net%2Fen%2Fimagenes%2F 2021%2F06%2F08%2Fother_sports%2F1623129071_518105_ noticia_normal.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=1f666d8fa7601ec2c34ee795b4dcbb894b02a06bfbb562 c6baaac01b707edb52&ipo=images

Pauleta14
05-18-2024, 09:45 AM
This
His PR machine wants people to believe his career started in 1991

Come on akhi... ^^

MJ averaged 37 and 35ppg in his 3rd and 4th seasons!
All NBA in his rookie season

1988/his 4th season is the year MJ wins EVERTHING individually

I love ANT, he's my fav player by far but he's no MJ, he's actually pretty far from him in terms of character

We'll see but as of now Ant isn't in the same world imo.

MultiTroll
05-18-2024, 09:03 PM
Dort with the pathetic over the back and potential bad injury causing attack on Gafford.
No call.

WTF.
Im pulling for Okie but that was some b.s.

lefty
05-18-2024, 09:06 PM
Come on akhi... ^^

MJ averaged 37 and 35ppg in his 3rd and 4th seasons!
All NBA in his rookie season

1988/his 4th season is the year MJ wins EVERTHING individually

I love ANT, he's my fav player by far but he's no MJ, he's actually pretty far from him in terms of character

We'll see but as of now Ant isn't in the same world imo.

in the no zone era against supbar unathletic coked up shooting guards tbh
Not taking anything away from baldie though

lefty
05-18-2024, 09:07 PM
Dort with the pathetic over the back and potential bad injury causing attack on Gafford.
No call.

WTF.
Im pulling for Okie but that was some b.s.

Tony Brothers is as evil as Dick Bavetta

MultiTroll
05-18-2024, 09:15 PM
Tony Brothers is as evil as Dick Bavetta
I hope Brothers doesn't decide the game.

Next that blocking foul called on Donutcic seemed like more total b.s.

Robz4000
05-18-2024, 09:22 PM
Lively absolutely destroying Holgrem.

skin27
05-18-2024, 09:28 PM
Doncic

MultiTroll
05-18-2024, 09:31 PM
Media talking about Ant Edwards being like MJ but phuck....SGAs midrange fallways look like Jordan.

skin27
05-18-2024, 09:32 PM
Player like pj washington is what the spurs need

skin27
05-18-2024, 09:36 PM
Clutch basket after clutch basket

Degoat
05-18-2024, 09:36 PM
Man some of the teams in these playoffs make some bone headed plays lol

mo7888
05-18-2024, 09:37 PM
Media talking about Ant Edwards being like MJ but phuck....SGAs midrange fallways look like Jordan.

SGA and Ant are the strongest case for Castle ..

skin27
05-18-2024, 09:38 PM
SGA:lol

baseline bum
05-18-2024, 09:39 PM
That foul is getting overturned

skin27
05-18-2024, 09:41 PM
:lmaoolOKC

Degoat
05-18-2024, 09:43 PM
Man that last challenge! Idk it looked like all ball initially lol

MultiTroll
05-18-2024, 09:43 PM
Why wasn't it a jump ball when SGA initially got all ball vs PJ Washington?

Had his hand on the ball long enough looked to me.

CorrectCrusader
05-18-2024, 09:43 PM
Worst challenge ever. Lost them the game.

SpursWoman
05-18-2024, 09:43 PM
Go Mavs! :lol

couchman
05-18-2024, 09:43 PM
Nephew and now Chet are out! So I’m happy

skin27
05-18-2024, 09:43 PM
Man that last challenge! Idk it looked like all ball initially lol

Sga hit the arm after the ball

lefty
05-18-2024, 09:44 PM
Chet is SOFT

timtonymanu
05-18-2024, 09:44 PM
Tough way for okc to lose

couchman
05-18-2024, 09:44 PM
PJ never lost possession and then SGA raked him in the arm while PJ was shooting so it’s a foul

timtonymanu
05-18-2024, 09:44 PM
Chet is SOFT

“Buh buh he’s rookie of the year cause his team has the best record :cry”

benefactor
05-18-2024, 09:45 PM
:lolKC

MultiTroll
05-18-2024, 09:46 PM
Man that last challenge! Idk it looked like all ball initially lol
Javie was just about to comment then Brothers stepped to the mic and said since he never lost possession.

In that case i say Jump Ball.

CorrectCrusader
05-18-2024, 09:46 PM
Javie was just about to comment then Brothers stepped to the mic and said since he never lost possession.

In that case i say Jump Ball.

Wasn't nearly long enough in real time. It was practically a jab

benefactor
05-18-2024, 09:48 PM
Who cares about the foul? Should have never come to that. OKC was in control and broke down and folded up like a cardboard box

Degoat
05-18-2024, 09:49 PM
Sga hit the arm after the ball

absolutely but they said if it’s ball first it’s not a foul.

CorrectCrusader
05-18-2024, 09:50 PM
absolutely but they said if it’s ball first it’s not a foul.

Announcer is retarded that's not how that works

Mr. Body
05-18-2024, 09:51 PM
Why wasn't it a jump ball when SGA initially got all ball vs PJ Washington?

Had his hand on the ball long enough looked to me.

Because it wasn't tied up? Why would that be a jump ball?

Mr. Body
05-18-2024, 09:52 PM
Wasn't nearly long enough in real time. It was practically a jab

A tie ball is when nothing else can be done with it. The possession is unclear and the ball is in both possession. In this one Washington literally still had the ball in the air and could shoot, which he did. The possession was over. If he landed and they both still had the ball, then that's a jump ball.

MultiTroll
05-18-2024, 09:52 PM
Wasn't nearly long enough in real time. It was practically a jab
NBA does not have that "Camera guys in the TV booth can make a replay request in the last two minutes" like the NFl do they?

Ya i ran it back. Agree it seems fast in real time.
Nonetheless he clearly ties up the ball. Gets his entire hand on it flat and SGA has big mitts.

Mr. Body
05-18-2024, 09:53 PM
Happy reminder that Presti brilliantly got Dallas both Lively and Gafford last summer and at the deadline. Brilliant.

Spurs Homer
05-18-2024, 10:05 PM
What did dallas give up - at mid season to get Jones and Washington..

just that dumbshit- Grant williams? Oh and the shitty curry?

brilliant fucking deal that the spurs NEVER ever make…

good for the mavs tbh

Mr. Body
05-18-2024, 10:10 PM
What did dallas give up - at mid season to get Jones and Washington..

just that dumbshit- Grant williams? Oh and the shitty curry?

brilliant fucking deal that the spurs NEVER ever make…

good for the mavs tbh

Why would the Spurs be using up their assets for pieces right now? Why does everyone always shit their pants?

Mugen
05-18-2024, 10:12 PM
:lmao RefKC getting eliminated on a foul call

Spurs Homer
05-18-2024, 10:15 PM
Why would the Spurs be using up their assets for pieces right now? Why does everyone always shit their pants?

uh

to start winning?

wemby is ready now - not in 3-5 years like most people here seem to believe

he showed you if you watched the games

barakz21
05-18-2024, 10:18 PM
Since Spurs fans are in offseason mode, on this day in 2007:



Game 5 was played May 16 at the US Airways Center. After leading by as many as 16 points in the second quarter and ahead 79–71 with 5:18 to play, Bruce Bowen hit a three-pointer with 36.4 seconds to go ahead and the Suns lost the game 88–85. The Suns, without Stoudemire and Diaw because of the aforementioned one-game suspension, were led by Shawn Marion who scored 24 points and collected 17 rebounds; all but four of those points were scored in the second half. Kurt Thomas, playing in place of Stoudemire, had 15 points and 12 rebounds. Steve Nash finished with 19 points and 12 assists. Manu Ginobili scored 15 of his 26 points in the final quarter to lead the Spurs to the late rally as the Suns ran out of energy down the stretch.



Awwwww man I remember exactly where I was for this game. Was on lunch break from summer class (curriculum reqs), and was running errands. On my way back, I saw the game was being shown at a random house which was open and basically allowed people to watch the game. So there I was, watching it too. Man, good times.

John B
05-18-2024, 10:20 PM
OKC played composed and experienced. It was just a matter who had the last possession. Too bad they got eliminated on a foul questionable, questionable at that.

BackHome
05-18-2024, 10:26 PM
OKC played composed and experienced. It was just a matter who had the last possession. Too bad they got eliminated on a foul questionable, questionable at that.

Chet didn't have a good shooting game I think he was 1 for 7 on 3 Ball - Also, Giddey playing only 11 minutes with 2 points....eek

Mr. Body
05-18-2024, 10:26 PM
uh

to start winning?

wemby is ready now - not in 3-5 years like most people here seem to believe

he showed you if you watched the games

What trades did you want to make? Don't say Trae Young or I'll punch you in the nuts. Be exact. Say exactly what the team needed and what you would have traded.

Mr. Body
05-18-2024, 10:27 PM
OKC played composed and experienced. It was just a matter who had the last possession. Too bad they got eliminated on a foul questionable, questionable at that.

It was 100% a foul. As Wash shot the ball, FTA's hand was on his arm. The contact with the ball previously was immaterial because that wasn't the shot.

Fizziksman
05-18-2024, 10:28 PM
Meth business about to have their highest gross of the year tonight in Oklahoma.

Mr. Body
05-18-2024, 10:28 PM
Also... OKC is getting praise for the playoffs. They did well for their first time with this bunch. They gave Dallas a run as a 1 seed. However... they beat up a bad Pels team without Zion and only won two against the 5 seed. They only won two games of consequence.

John B
05-18-2024, 10:29 PM
Chet didn't have a good shooting game I think he was 1 for 7 on 3 Ball - Also, Giddey playing only 11 minutes with 2 points....eek

It will be a long rivalry with this team.

Uriel
05-18-2024, 10:36 PM
This Mavs team is the closest I’ve seen to that 2011 championship winning team. Which part? The man in the middle, the new Tyson Chandler, Derrick Lively.

spursparker9
05-18-2024, 10:39 PM
Man, Mavs have a deep team tbh.

PJ Wsh can really defend and Jones Jr is really stepping up.

Kyrie is finally maturing. The whole team have a great team chemistry vibes.

Would be fun to see Luka vs Joker in the WCF

heyheymymy
05-18-2024, 10:55 PM
This Mavs team is the closest I’ve seen to that 2011 championship winning team. Which part? The man in the middle, the new Tyson Chandler, Derrick Lively.

they showed Dirk in the crowd at the game tonight

The Stars just advanced last night too. Wild game. Double OT. Live hockey at 1am lol pretty cool shit.

So hats off for Dallas area sports fans. Having a good run recently. Mavs look good. Damn that Lively II was a steal. Great moves solid group going right now. Mavs did themselves a favor ending it tonight with DEN MIN G7 tomorrow that buys a little time for Luka to heal up some. If I'm Kidd I'm parking Luka's ass in a wheelchair where he doesn't take a single fucking step until Tues. Hotel bed and Spa treatments lol shit put Luka in the cryo chamber lol

BacktoBasics
05-18-2024, 10:56 PM
Chet didn't have a good shooting game I think he was 1 for 7 on 3 Ball - Also, Giddey playing only 11 minutes with 2 points....eek

Unfortunately Giddey has minimal trade value after this postseason. He’ll be shopped this offseason but difficult to move.

Wallace is clearly the combo guard that’s fits best alongside SGA. Between Joe, Dort and Wallace there is no reason to keep Giddey. Not to mention all the draft picks. OKC has the best future of any team.

R. DeMurre
05-19-2024, 10:09 AM
In Doncic's rookie season (2019), these were the teammates around him with the most minutes: Harrison Barnes, DeAndre Jordan, Wesley Matthews, Tim Hardaway Jr, Dennis Smith Jr, Dorian Finney-Smith, Jalen Brunson. His team has had almost an entire make over in just 6 seasons.

MultiTroll
05-19-2024, 10:25 AM
Chet didn't have a good shooting game I think he was 1 for 7 on 3 Ball - Also, Giddey playing only 11 minutes with 2 points....eek
Giddey should not have been on the floor, esp in the 4th and double esp in the stretch run.

Coaching error.

JPB
05-19-2024, 10:28 AM
It will be a long rivalry with this team.

You mean between OKC and Dallas?

OKC is a low key contender who have their core, an MVP caliber PG some promising youngsters and picks.

Spurs are a bottom team with Wemby and picks (which they still will be next year if they stay put). Let's try to actually build a competitive team before pretending rivalizing with OKC or anyone.

LeBowen
05-19-2024, 10:33 AM
You mean between OKC and Dallas?

OKC is a low key contender who have their core, an MVP caliber PG some promising youngsters and picks.

Spurs are a bottom team with Wemby and picks (which they still will be next year if they stay put). Let's try to actually build a competitive team before pretending rivalizing with OKC or anyone.

OKC won 24 games two years ago.
SGA, Dort, Giddey and Wiggins are the only remaining players in the rotation from that season.
Two key pieces, Giddey became a negative asset and Wiggins is just a decent bench player.

It's all about front office competency. Spurs have plenty of assets.
If we're not in the playoffs two years from now, Brian Wright and his people need to go.

MultiTroll
05-19-2024, 10:36 AM
Choking off the mid 3rd qtr 17 point lead exposes OKC as 2024 playoff frauds.

John B
05-19-2024, 11:09 AM
Choking off the mid 3rd qtr 17 point lead exposes OKC as 2024 playoff frauds.

More like inexperienced than anything else. They’re only going to get better, likewise Mavs, Rockets. FATFO has a lot of work ahead.

CorrectCrusader
05-19-2024, 11:18 AM
A tie ball is when nothing else can be done with it. The possession is unclear and the ball is in both possession. In this one Washington literally still had the ball in the air and could shoot, which he did. The possession was over. If he landed and they both still had the ball, then that's a jump ball.

Correct, the announcer was absolutely braindead which is why everyone is confused.

MultiTroll
05-19-2024, 11:49 AM
More like inexperienced than anything else.
Meh
20 Lively
25 PJ Washington
Doncic same years as SGA.

Twas still a phuck up to lose the 17 point lead. Stupid turnovers galore.

Then they built up the lead again to 13 early 4th. That's just dumb IQ basketball to choke that off. Most of the Turns were unforced errors.

Dallas got super lucky on the 105-102 FTA. Lively missed and the ball takes a lucky bounce and out for the tying 3 pointer.
Thought one of Jones buzzer beater shots was pure luck. The one where he fell on his ass and slid 25 feet.
But hey Jones was nails otherwise. Game of his career?

Mr. Body
05-19-2024, 12:55 PM
I may be alone, but I don't think the Thunder have their core yet. They still have work to do. This series really exposed some significant problems.

BackHome
05-19-2024, 01:07 PM
Dallas would not even be in the show right now if they had not TANKED to get the 10th pick where they got there starting center. Hopefully in 2025 either our pick or Atlanta's pick will end up in the top 5 and if the basketball gods still hate Detroit, and decide on gifting us another 1st who am I to complain...:spin

rascal
05-19-2024, 01:35 PM
they showed Dirk in the crowd at the game tonight

The Stars just advanced last night too. Wild game. Double OT. Live hockey at 1am lol pretty cool shit.

So hats off for Dallas area sports fans. Having a good run recently. Mavs look good. Damn that Lively II was a steal. Great moves solid group going right now. Mavs did themselves a favor ending it tonight with DEN MIN G7 tomorrow that buys a little time for Luka to heal up some. If I'm Kidd I'm parking Luka's ass in a wheelchair where he doesn't take a single fucking step until Tues. Hotel bed and Spa treatments lol shit put Luka in the cryo chamber lol

Lively > Sochan

JPB
05-19-2024, 01:47 PM
OKC won 24 games two years ago.
SGA, Dort, Giddey and Wiggins are the only remaining players in the rotation from that season.
Two key pieces, Giddey became a negative asset and Wiggins is just a decent bench player.

It's all about front office competency. Spurs have plenty of assets.
If we're not in the playoffs two years from now, Brian Wright and his people need to go.

And two years later, they're contending.

Let's see if the spurs contend in two years before talking rrivalry (which doesn't seem the most popular path spurs should take on here). My point precisely was they won't if they take "the patient" road, just adding rookies this year , then tank/suck again, only to add some more roolies in 2025 'because this is supposedly a great draft) so all these young people develop the next 4 years-5 years.

And no, spurs don't have plenty of assets. mainly picks, lots of them, but mainly picks, and not that many at the end if they use them to draft meh players, which makes trading all the more difficult with time passing.

Spurs should be proactive and reactive, this isn't your granpa NBA.

Raven
05-19-2024, 01:50 PM
Lively > Sochan
lively without doncic, doesn't get on the floor anywhere in the league.

Texas_Ranger
05-19-2024, 02:50 PM
In Doncic's rookie season (2019), these were the teammates around him with the most minutes: Harrison Barnes, DeAndre Jordan, Wesley Matthews, Tim Hardaway Jr, Dennis Smith Jr, Dorian Finney-Smith, Jalen Brunson. His team has had almost an entire make over in just 6 seasons.

Other than Luka, there was zero starters in the lineup these playoffs for Dallas, that were in WCF just 2 years ago... Tim Hardaway is pretty much the only guy left on the team and he was out of the 2022 playoffs... So everyone playing for Dallas, other than Luka is new... Changed the whole team and got to the same place.

scott
05-19-2024, 02:52 PM
OKC won 24 games two years ago.
SGA, Dort, Giddey and Wiggins are the only remaining players in the rotation from that season.
Two key pieces, Giddey became a negative asset and Wiggins is just a decent bench player.

It's all about front office competency. Spurs have plenty of assets.
If we're not in the playoffs two years from now, Brian Wright and his people need to go.

:pop: We're making sure not to skip any steps

scott
05-19-2024, 02:58 PM
And two years later, they're contending.

Let's see if the spurs contend in two years before talking rrivalry (which doesn't seem the most popular path spurs should take on here). My point precisely was they won't if they take "the patient" road, just adding rookies this year , then tank/suck again, only to add some more roolies in 2025 'because this is supposedly a great draft) so all these young people develop the next 4 years-5 years.

And no, spurs don't have plenty of assets. mainly picks, lots of them, but mainly picks, and not that many at the end if they use them to draft meh players, which makes trading all the more difficult with time passing.

Spurs should be proactive and reactive, this isn't your granpa NBA.

Well said.

This is our 5th straight year in the lottery. Hopefully after this draft we have more to show for it than just Wemby (home run, slam dunk, yatzee, GOAT, yada yada) and Vassell (okay pick, at least we didn't fuck it up)

Obstructed_View
05-19-2024, 03:51 PM
Well said.

This is our 5th straight year in the lottery. Hopefully after this draft we have more to show for it than just Wemby (home run, slam dunk, yatzee, GOAT, yada yada) and Vassell (okay pick, at least we didn't fuck it up)
I don't understand why you guys are so happy with Vassell. He's a slightly less streaky Lonnie Walker. He doesn't defend, he doesn't step up when it matters, he has terrible chemistry with Victor. Not sure what else to expect from a guy who learned from Dejounte Murray and Demar Derozen.

Extra Stout
05-19-2024, 04:01 PM
I don't understand why you guys are so happy with Vassell. He's a slightly less streaky Lonnie Walker. He doesn't defend, he doesn't step up when it matters, he has terrible chemistry with Victor. Not sure what else to expect from a guy who learned from Dejounte Murray and Demar Derozen.
He is a functional NBA player on a roster where that is rare.

scott
05-19-2024, 04:05 PM
I don't understand why you guys are so happy with Vassell. He's a slightly less streaky Lonnie Walker. He doesn't defend, he doesn't step up when it matters, he has terrible chemistry with Victor. Not sure what else to expect from a guy who learned from Dejounte Murray and Demar Derozen.

I mean, I described the Vassell pick as "okay" and "at least we didn't fuck it up"... I wouldn't call that as "Happy". The DEEP model (here: https://braydengerrard.shinyapps.io/Draft_Scores/) rates the Vassell pick as "Average", which I agree with (Walker, Samanic, Primo all rated "Bad", Keldon rated "Excellent").

Extra Stout
05-19-2024, 04:08 PM
I don’t think it should take 4-5 years before knowing whether a young player is going to be any good. You should have a sense by the end of Year 2 what they’re going to develop into.

Like, I think it’s clear by now that Jeremy Sochan is going to be a glue-guy role player. He’s not going to be Draymond Green.

And I don’t think Malaki Branham or Blake Wesley are NBA players. If they were, they would have shown something by now.

So if the Spurs go the draft route to build the team, and the picks pan out, the team should be on a pretty clear upward trajectory pretty quickly. If they’re not, and the team is still preaching patience, it means they failed.

TD 21
05-19-2024, 04:45 PM
I don’t think it should take 4-5 years before knowing whether a young player is going to be any good. You should have a sense by the end of Year 2 what they’re going to develop into.

Like, I think it’s clear by now that Jeremy Sochan is going to be a glue-guy role player. He’s not going to be Draymond Green.

And I don’t think Malaki Branham or Blake Wesley are NBA players. If they were, they would have shown something by now.

So if the Spurs go the draft route to build the team, and the picks pan out, the team should be on a pretty clear upward trajectory pretty quickly. If they’re not, and the team is still preaching patience, it means they failed.

Yeah, contrary to popular belief, usually you see glimpses immediately or whether they're going to be a legit NBA player or not.

Look no further than the Spurs of the past decade. Not counting Wembanyama for obvious reasons, Anderson, Murray, White, Johnson, Vassell and Jones were the ones who showed immediate glimpses of at least being above replacement players and sure enough were and vice versa.

Raven
05-19-2024, 04:48 PM
I don't understand why you guys are so happy with Vassell. He's a slightly less streaky Lonnie Walker. He doesn't defend, he doesn't step up when it matters, he has terrible chemistry with Victor. Not sure what else to expect from a guy who learned from Dejounte Murray and Demar Derozen.
he has shown huge improvements on D this year. From godawful to actually decent.

Raven
05-19-2024, 04:49 PM
I don’t think it should take 4-5 years before knowing whether a young player is going to be any good. You should have a sense by the end of Year 2 what they’re going to develop into.

Like, I think it’s clear by now that Jeremy Sochan is going to be a glue-guy role player. He’s not going to be Draymond Green.

And I don’t think Malaki Branham or Blake Wesley are NBA players. If they were, they would have shown something by now.

So if the Spurs go the draft route to build the team, and the picks pan out, the team should be on a pretty clear upward trajectory pretty quickly. If they’re not, and the team is still preaching patience, it means they failed.

I'm puzzled on if you have watched much spurs this year..

scott
05-19-2024, 05:03 PM
NBA things I love:

1) Indiana (the polar opposite of New York City) being the foil of the Knicks
2) The Knicks being a "big market" team that gets lots of media attention but hasn't won shit in forever. Basically the Cowboys of the NBA

timtonymanu
05-19-2024, 05:06 PM
Won’t be surprised if Boston struggles just to beat this team when Indiana doesn’t look that good to begin with.

spurs1990
05-19-2024, 05:19 PM
Denver Indiana dream NBA finals matchup very much on the table. Two grit and grind teams that don't bluff

skin27
05-19-2024, 05:31 PM
What a choke job by the knicks

skin27
05-19-2024, 05:46 PM
Man, Mavs have a deep team tbh.

PJ Wsh can really defend and Jones Jr is really stepping up.

Kyrie is finally maturing. The whole team have a great team chemistry vibes.

Would be fun to see Luka vs Joker in the WCF

The media and the NbA wants edwards vs luka tbh

Obstructed_View
05-19-2024, 05:46 PM
I mean, I described the Vassell pick as "okay" and "at least we didn't fuck it up"... I wouldn't call that as "Happy". The DEEP model (here: https://braydengerrard.shinyapps.io/Draft_Scores/) rates the Vassell pick as "Average", which I agree with (Walker, Samanic, Primo all rated "Bad", Keldon rated "Excellent").
Yeah, to be fair, it wasn't directed at you, it was just your post that reminded me.

He has been mostly shit with Victor. He scores meaningless points, doesn't pass, and should be more of a veteran presence right now. The other guys are young enough that they could develop. The same guys who are dying to give up on Sochan and Branham, and who are positively dying to trade KJ seem to be fine with Demar Junior.

skin27
05-19-2024, 05:57 PM
NBA things I love:

1) Indiana (the polar opposite of New York City) being the foil of the Knicks
2) The Knicks being a "big market" team that gets lots of media attention but hasn't won shit in forever. Basically the Cowboys of the NBA

Wemby on the knick will be good for the NBA and media tbh

Mr. Body
05-19-2024, 05:59 PM
Cs with probably the easiest run to the Finals in history. The East is incredibly bad.

lefty
05-19-2024, 06:34 PM
Cs with probably the easiest run to the Finals in history. The East is incredibly bad.

80s Lakers : hold my beer

lefty
05-19-2024, 06:34 PM
https://twitter.com/knicksmuse/status/1792334574371950986

SpursBills
05-19-2024, 06:50 PM
Figured that NBA would have wanted OKC-Minnesota (SGA vs Ant, SGA vs NAW) or Dallas-Denver (Luka vs Jokic). Guess we'll see after tonight.

skin27
05-19-2024, 08:12 PM
Pseudo face of the NBA layed an egg in the first half

Gagnrath
05-19-2024, 08:23 PM
Are you willing to trade all your picks and go into the repeater tax to do it? Cause that's how The Wolves did it.

OKC has one more year and then their bill is going to come do as well.



Jokic isn't a great man to man defender though he is adequate to good against traditional centers and power-forwards, He is a good help defender and surprisingly agile given his bulk. If he wasn't expending so much energy and breath on offense I think his defense would be better as well.

LeBowen
05-19-2024, 08:29 PM
Gobert hate is (deservedly) back on the menu.

Getting killed on the boards like this is embarrassing.

Gagnrath
05-19-2024, 08:31 PM
I don’t think it should take 4-5 years before knowing whether a young player is going to be any good. You should have a sense by the end of Year 2 what they’re going to develop into.

Like, I think it’s clear by now that Jeremy Sochan is going to be a glue-guy role player. He’s not going to be Draymond Green.

And I don’t think Malaki Branham or Blake Wesley are NBA players. If they were, they would have shown something by now.

So if the Spurs go the draft route to build the team, and the picks pan out, the team should be on a pretty clear upward trajectory pretty quickly. If they’re not, and the team is still preaching patience, it means they failed.

Thing is that was Draymond a glue guy with attitude, who got the points and attention he did because Steph and Clay have the gravity of Jupiter and Saturn to pull defenders. A NBA starting quality forward will drain jumpers at a very good rate if he has consistent 3 steps between him and a defender if they are doubling his teammates who are scary good shooters.

Draymond is and was a budget Rodmon you got the defense, and bad attitude, and a decent portion of the rebounding who had a bit more offense because Steph and Clay pulled defenders out more than Pippin and Jordan with less showmanship.

skin27
05-19-2024, 08:41 PM
Gobert hate is (deservedly) back on the menu.

Getting killed on the boards like this is embarrassing.

How about the pseudo face of the NBA?

LeBowen
05-19-2024, 08:45 PM
How about the pseudo face of the NBA?

He's 22 and didn't cost 5 FRPs.
Gobert always cries about being underrated and disappears when it matters the most.

Wolves back in this.

skin27
05-19-2024, 08:47 PM
He's 22 and didn't cost 5 FRPs.
Gobert always cries about being underrated and disappears when it matters the most.

Wolves back in this.

Lmao making gobert scapegot. If the wolves lose this game it should be on edwards:lol he's the spuperstar of the team..

NASpurs
05-19-2024, 08:52 PM
Some thing I thought I would never say: there's a lot of Wolves fans in Denver. :lol

NASpurs
05-19-2024, 08:56 PM
Win or lose, this Wolves team has made me eat crow.

spurs1990
05-19-2024, 08:57 PM
Feeling trepidation for Denver here. SA Det Game 7 nervousness. Need some championship mettle badly

skin27
05-19-2024, 09:00 PM
Denver choking:lol

spurs1990
05-19-2024, 09:07 PM
I mean if gobert is gonna hit contested fadeaways…

lefty20
05-19-2024, 09:08 PM
Jokic bailing out the T'Pups D by taking so many 3s in the 2nd half.

lefty20
05-19-2024, 09:11 PM
Refs really trynna get Denver back in it lol

NASpurs
05-19-2024, 09:19 PM
Holy shit :lol

Game

spurs1990
05-19-2024, 09:19 PM
Gonna need a miracle from Nikola to bring us home

NASpurs
05-19-2024, 09:20 PM
Maybe we should draft Edey with the 8th pick :lol Big teams are coming back.

Strategic
05-19-2024, 09:20 PM
Reid making Towns dispensable

Ef-man
05-19-2024, 09:20 PM
NBA's MVP needs to return that trophy!

Degoat
05-19-2024, 09:20 PM
Denver absolutely collapsing!! Joker getting dominated by Reid and Gobert

lefty20
05-19-2024, 09:21 PM
Shit, need OT to him my Over bet.

timtonymanu
05-19-2024, 09:21 PM
What a wild series!

mo7888
05-19-2024, 09:22 PM
Well, I'd Minnesota is the team we need to beat, our construction may need to change. Someone is going to have to defend Ant (castle?) And someone's gonna have to help Wemby with their bigs (Sarr, Clingan?)

ace3g
05-19-2024, 09:22 PM
3:05 - 4th





1
2
3
4
T


MIN
19
19
28
26
92


DEN
24
29
14
15
82

Ef-man
05-19-2024, 09:23 PM
Charles Barkley was right

NASpurs
05-19-2024, 09:23 PM
Well, I'd Minnesota is the team we need to beat, our construction may need to change. Someone is going to have to defend Ant (castle?) And someone's gonna have to help Wemby with their bigs (Sarr, Clingan?)

It's not going to be Collins, that's for sure.

mo7888
05-19-2024, 09:24 PM
It's not going to be Collins, that's for sure.

True dat

lefty20
05-19-2024, 09:27 PM
That's GG!

skin27
05-19-2024, 09:27 PM
Nuggets:lol

spurs1990
05-19-2024, 09:28 PM
Teams we should root to ring
1) Indiana
2) Dallas
3) Boston
4) Wolves

NASpurs
05-19-2024, 09:29 PM
KAT is so low BBIQ :lol

lefty20
05-19-2024, 09:33 PM
6-24 in Game 7. Bro went full Kobe, tbh.

spurs1990
05-19-2024, 09:33 PM
Edwards gotta be brought down a peg by Dallas . Most arrogant player in the game

skin27
05-19-2024, 09:40 PM
6-24 in Game 7. Bro went full Kobe, tbh.

An yet he's the one got inteviewed by tnt media

Uriel
05-19-2024, 09:44 PM
Boston-Minnesota is going to be a great NBA Final.

ace3g
05-19-2024, 09:45 PM
https://x.com/ClutchPoints/status/1792385846923903421

Strategic
05-19-2024, 09:50 PM
Edwards and Reid are a pretty nice young couple guys and already have a team around them. Wonder how long it will take Minny to screw it up

GAustex
05-19-2024, 09:51 PM
Naz would look good in a Spurs uni

daslicer
05-19-2024, 09:52 PM
6-24 in Game 7. Bro went full Kobe, tbh.

Just like Kobe he got bailed out by a bunch of 7fters lol.

scott
05-19-2024, 09:52 PM
Lmao making gobert scapegot. If the wolves lose this game it should be on edwards:lol he's the spuperstar of the team..

crofl

skin27
05-19-2024, 09:54 PM
crofledwqrds got bailed out by towns tbh

scott
05-19-2024, 09:57 PM
Last 5 #1 overall picks before Wemby:

2018: Ayton - first playoff appearance in year 3. Made Finals.
2019: Zion - first playoff appearance in year 3. Zion has yet to play in a playoff game though :lol
2020: Ant - first playoff appearance in year 2.
2021: Cade - team stuck in tank mode
2022: Paolo - first playoff appearance in year 2.

Strategic
05-19-2024, 10:19 PM
Nuggets really looked spent. Short on bench help never helps. 5 years in a row now that the defending champs didn’t get close to a repeat. Sure be a good time to start dominating, problem is the west is looking top heavy. Nuggets were exposed playing scrubs.

heyheymymy
05-19-2024, 10:43 PM
Lively > Sochan

best $750,000 tank fine ever

Pretty crazy what if: Mavs somehow defy near mathematical elimination to miracle into the play in, Knicks get the pick, Mavs don't land Lively II. Are DAL still sitting at G1 of the WCF rn?

Honestly if Kidd just didn't say what he said at the press conference basically admitting they wouldn't have even been fined prob b/c they played genuine most of that season imo whereas teams were blatantly bombing for Wemby for example

heyheymymy
05-19-2024, 10:52 PM
Figured that NBA would have wanted OKC-Minnesota (SGA vs Ant, SGA vs NAW) or Dallas-Denver (Luka vs Jokic). Guess we'll see after tonight.

maybe NBA wants to make DAL MIN = euro face of the league (Luka) vs usa face of the league (Edwards)

Robz4000
05-19-2024, 10:55 PM
Teams we should root to ring
1) Indiana
2) Wolves
3) Boston
4) Dallas

Ftfy

heyheymymy
05-19-2024, 10:55 PM
I was kinda hoping for the Luka vs Jokic matchup battle of the Balkans but I gotta say, I don't hate any combo that could advance to the Finals this year. Pretty exciting teams left and not many unlikeable players left imho.

BOS DAL would be cool

Robz4000
05-19-2024, 10:59 PM
If you have hopes of the Spurs one day acquiring Doncic you don't want the Mavs winning the title tbh.

heyheymymy
05-19-2024, 11:05 PM
Not sure yet who I'd prefer to ring based on league balance most beneficial from Spurs perspective lol

BOS initially cause they already have a bunch anyway and always wondered if the league wants a deus ex machina to tie in the storyline of the 2022 Finals loss with a follow up win as a resolution device.

Not against MIN getting the ring what a season. Guess I just don't want DAL lol don't want to have to hear it from Mavs fans lol. But I could see it being Luka's time and the league coveting the optics.

TD 21
05-19-2024, 11:18 PM
Well, I'd Minnesota is the team we need to beat, our construction may need to change. Someone is going to have to defend Ant (castle?) And someone's gonna have to help Wemby with their bigs (Sarr, Clingan?)

This will make it 6 champions in 6 years for the first time since '75-'80.

The biggest mistake the Spurs can make is thinking they have to build their team to beat any specific team, especially one with an old (Conley) key player, an aging (Gobert) key player and likely to lose a key piece (Reid) due to finances.



Just like Kobe he got bailed out by a bunch of 7fters lol.

Exactly. This team reminds me of the Bryant-Gasol era Lakers, who won mostly on the strength of their men against bigs (the Timberwolves are more about defense and depth in general, but still), but the league/media wanted to push their lazy Bryant agenda/narrative instead of telling the truth.



Last 5 #1 overall picks before Wemby:

2018: Ayton - first playoff appearance in year 3. Made Finals.
2019: Zion - first playoff appearance in year 3. Zion has yet to play in a playoff game though :lol
2020: Ant - first playoff appearance in year 2.
2021: Cade - team stuck in tank mode
2022: Paolo - first playoff appearance in year 2.

The first three moved to put a competitive team in place immediately. Granted, they had current or projected All-Stars in Booker, Ingram and Towns, but still.

The Timberwolves, in particular, had a 20 year old Edwards, who was nowhere near the player Wembanyama is and gave up an insane amount for Gobert in essentially a bet that the former would get close enough to his prime before the latter exited his and they could open up a window to contend.

John B
05-19-2024, 11:19 PM
I don’t like the Mavs, so go TWolves!

scott
05-19-2024, 11:43 PM
I don’t like the Mavs, so go TWolves!

I hate both of these teams, and the Celtics too! Go Pacers! :lol