NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD

[daslicer]

This will make it 6 champions in 6 years for the first time since '75-'80.

The biggest mistake the Spurs can make is thinking they have to build their team to beat any specific team, especially one with an old (Conley) key player, an aging (Gobert) key player and likely to lose a key piece (Reid) due to finances.




Exactly. This team reminds me of the Bryant-Gasol era Lakers, who won mostly on the strength of their men against bigs (the Timberwolves are more about defense and depth in general, but still), but the league/media wanted to push their lazy Bryant agenda/narrative instead of telling the truth.




The first three moved to put a competitive team in place immediately. Granted, they had current or projected All-Stars in Booker, Ingram and Towns, but still.

The Timberwolves, in particular, had a 20 year old Edwards, who was nowhere near the player Wembanyama is and gave up an insane amount for Gobert in essentially a bet that the former would get close enough to his prime before the latter exited his and they could open up a window to contend.


Agreed it's a similar set up to the Kobe-Gasol lakers with their three bigs in Gobert, KAT, Reid but like you said defensively they are different than those Laker teams. I do find it annoying how the league is desperately trying to make Edwards the face of the league when I don't think he's truly the best in the league yet and is not even close to it. That alone is why I have to root for the wolves failure.

[lefty]

I hate both of these teams, and the Celtics too! Go Pacers! :lol

Good luck man

[mystargtr34]

I never really thought of the Lakers comparison with this Wolves team but I agree there are some similarities. Prime Gasol was much better than Towns but still Towns spaces the floor a bit better.

The 6-24 game 7 performance from Edward’s helps bring the similarities a bit closer 😂.

Bynum - Gobert
Gasol - KAT
McDaniels - Artest
Edwards - Kobe
Conley - Fisher
Naz Reid - Odom

Overwhelming teams with their size and rebounding. This Wolves team is better defensively but that Lakers team was better on offense with Bynum and Gasol.

[Robz4000]

I never really thought of the Lakers comparison with this Wolves team but I agree there are some similarities. Prime Gasol was much better than Towns but still Towns spaces the floor a bit better.

The 6-24 game 7 performance from Edward’s helps bring the similarities a bit closer 😂.

Bynum - Gobert
Gasol - KAT
McDaniels - Artest
Edwards - Kobe
Conley - Fisher
Naz Reid - Odom

Overwhelming teams with their size and rebounding. This Wolves team is better defensively but that Lakers team was better on offense with Bynum and Gasol.

:lol also helps Ant is more likeable than Kirbs

[Texas_Ranger]

good luck Dallas. Don't see how they will match Wolves size.

[CGD]

These have been some of the most enjoyable playoffs in a long time. I’m kinda expecting a let down after the darling Knicks and champs lost.

The best narrative left is the rise of Ant. Could you imagine if he wins the Championship and then a Gold medal? He’s gonna be crowned by the league and the next great one.

I love Derrick White, but truly loath everything else about the Celtics. Indiana is incredibly mid, and Dallas is Dallas.

[z0sa]

Cant believe Denver blew that lead at home. They had offensive consistency issues at key moments in this series when they should have been extending leads or at least maintaining their composure. A bit underwhelming in the end.

I hate the Mavs but now it is down to rooting for a Texas team.

[CGD]

Cant believe Denver blew that lead at home. They had offensive consistency issues at key moments in this series when they should have been extending leads or at least maintaining their composure. A bit underwhelming in the end.

I hate the Mavs but now it is down to rooting for a Texas team.

Not gonna be able to do it on the Mavs (and Rockets) support, lol.

As Jokic said yesterday, that team was built to beat them. Joker and Murray had great games, but they couldn’t get anything meaningful from the others. When their offense was featuring KCP, I knew they were cooked.

Nuggets are gonna have to have a serious discussion about MPJ, tbh.

[Ice009]

These have been some of the most enjoyable playoffs in a long time. I’m kinda expecting a let down after the darling Knicks and champs lost.

The best narrative left is the rise of Ant. Could you imagine if he wins the Championship and then a Gold medal? He’s gonna be crowned by the league and the next great one.

I love Derrick White, but truly loath everything else about the Celtics. Indiana is incredibly mid, and Dallas is Dallas.

Yeah, I don't like any of these things. Anthony Edwards is really great, but he's not the best player in the league yet. I won't be super mad if they win, though, as he seems like an alright guy. I just hate the thought of Towns winning a ring, though, as he the opposite of a real championship player.

I also agree about Derrick. I love the guy, but not really a fan of much else Boston basketball wise. Dallas, don't want winning as I still prefer to hold onto the slight chance Doncic might leave one day. That only leaves Indiana, who I don't think have any chance of winning, but they would be by far my preferred team to win it all. Rick Carlisle, I also think is still a really good coach. I'll definitely go going with Indiana as I like Rick Carlisle, Pascal Siakam and Tyrese Haliburton.



This will make it 6 champions in 6 years for the first time since '75-'80.

The biggest mistake the Spurs can make is thinking they have to build their team to beat any specific team, especially one with an old (Conley) key player, an aging (Gobert) key player and likely to lose a key piece (Reid) due to finances.




Exactly. This team reminds me of the Bryant-Gasol era Lakers, who won mostly on the strength of their men against bigs (the Timberwolves are more about defense and depth in general, but still), but the league/media wanted to push their lazy Bryant agenda/narrative instead of telling the truth.




The first three moved to put a competitive team in place immediately. Granted, they had current or projected All-Stars in Booker, Ingram and Towns, but still.

The Timberwolves, in particular, had a 20 year old Edwards, who was nowhere near the player Wembanyama is and gave up an insane amount for Gobert in essentially a bet that the former would get close enough to his prime before the latter exited his and they could open up a window to contend.

So it has already been done (6 different champions in 6 years)? So it won't be the first time?

I agree with what you said, I hope the Spurs don't make a mistake going in a certain direction based on who wins this year. I don't think they would put a lot of weight in how how they build the team based on who wins this year, would they?

The Lakers comparison is a pretty good one. I didn't really think back that far. The Timberwolves are definitely more defensive oriented, though, and that is something I like, but like you said, the media won't look at that aspect of it.

[z0sa]

Not gonna be able to do it on the Mavs (and Rockets) support, lol.

As Jokic said yesterday, that team was built to beat them. Joker and Murray had great games, but they couldn’t get anything meaningful from the others. When their offense was featuring KCP, I knew they were cooked.

Nuggets are gonna have to have a serious discussion about MPJ, tbh.

Yeah, it was an overserving of Murray early on. He just ran out of gas, imho. Long season, long series and a very very physical/tough one at that. Jokic was a monster and they'll come back strong -- I feel Spurs 03-07 vibes out of this club. They'll come back strong next season with a change or two to help counter the TWolves and I'd bet money on them at least making another Finals visit in the next two or three seasons.

Then, it's Wemby time :cooldevil

[Splits]

Go Celtics, purely for the fact that 18>12

[CorrectCrusader]

The two best guards in the game vs the best guard defenders in the game

[R. DeMurre]

The difference in depth between these teams is astonishing, and shows just how much Jokic carries his team. Outside of Nikola, there are three guys with a positive BPM, and one is Porter Jr, who's BPM is +0.1, so he's really more of a net neutral player. Minnesota has 8 players (!) with positive BPMs.

[Strategic]

It would be nice if these last 3 series are watchable but I’m not holding my breath.

[itzsoweezee]

Fuck the Mavs

[lefty]

The difference in depth between these teams is astonishing, and shows just how much Jokic carries his team. Outside of Nikola, there are three guys with a positive BPM, and one is Porter Jr, who's BPM is +0.1, so he's really more of a net neutral player. Minnesota has 8 players (!) with positive BPMs.

copy pasta?

[spurraider21]

good luck Dallas. Don't see how they will match Wolves size.
dallas had a size advantage over OKC and dominated them on the offensive glass. wont have that luxury against minnesota. they'll have to adjust, but Luka seems defense-proof, generally. we'll see

[MultiTroll]

Yeah, it was an overserving of Murray early on. He just ran out of gas, imho. Long season, long series and a very very physical/tough one at that. Jokic was a monster and they'll come back strong -- I feel Spurs 03-07 vibes out of this club. They'll come back strong next season with a change or two to help counter the TWolves and I'd bet money on them at least making another Finals visit in the next two or three seasons.

Then, it's Wemby time :cooldevil
So Denver has no backup for Joker, or rather didn't play him?

Ya Murray and Joker certainly seemed to do enough. Porter, KCP really shit the bed shooting.

[R. DeMurre]

copy pasta?

?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I hope mavs get swept, can't fathom a scenario where I'd want them to win this series over the Timberwolves.

EFF THE MAVS

[timtonymanu]

I don't mind Edwards cockiness, that's basically a given when you're a star player. Not everyone is modest like Duncan and Manu.

If Edwards pulls crap that the generation before him did (Durant, Harden, Kyrie before Dallas, etc.), which is bailing on his own team to go join with other stars, then I would lose all respect for him. I kinda like his emergence right now.

[Mugen]

Anybody but the Mavs and the Cs tbh. Fun playoffs so far tbh.

[R. DeMurre]

The T-Wolves played great and I love the way they've assembled a defense first team around a couple of good scoring options, but I still think if Jamal Murray had been 100% for those first two Denver home games, chances are the Nuggets would've won the series. Like Pop has said before, in order to win a championship you have to be very good and very lucky. Denver's depth is so thin that losing the #2 guy is even more devastating than it might be for other teams.

[lefty20]

Rooting for the Celts, because them winning would piss off the Laker fans cuz of 18>17

[TD 21]

The T-Wolves played great and I love the way they've assembled a defense first team around a couple of good scoring options, but I still think if Jamal Murray had been 100% for those first two Denver home games, chances are the Nuggets would've won the series. Like Pop has said before, in order to win a championship you have to be very good and very lucky. Denver's depth is so thin that losing the #2 guy is even more devastating than it might be for other teams.

Oh, so now injuries factor into the calculus, but when it's the Warriors and their unprecedented fortune, then it's out of bounds.

[spurraider21]

Been pulling for the Wolves all along. Would be hilarious to see Boston come short in the finals again, even tho i still have love for White

fathead vs fathead finals :lol

[Robz4000]

Been pulling for the Wolves all along. Would be hilarious to see Boston come short in the finals again, even tho i still have love for White

fathead vs fathead finals :lol

May the fattest head win.

[ismael-robert]

Watched some vlatko cancar highlights...he actually could be a nice x factor Bruce brown replacement

[R. DeMurre]

Oh, so now injuries factor into the calculus, but when it's the Warriors and their unprecedented fortune, then it's out of bounds.


I think the Warriors winning four titles plus having seasons of 67,73, & 67 wins is a much bigger body of evidence than the Timberwolves making the conference finals once, yes. I've never said injuries are out of bounds as a topic, but I think if you're applying it for wins, you also have to apply it for loses, i.e., the loss against Toronto. Either way, winning that many titles is impressive, as it would be even if they'd "only" won three.

[Spurs Homer]

Rooting for the Celts, because them winning would piss off the Laker fans cuz of 18>17


yeah

only laker fans count those minneapolis titles…

they exist in fantasy land

[TD 21]

I think the Warriors winning four titles plus having seasons of 67,73, & 67 wins is a much bigger body of evidence than the Timberwolves making the conference finals once, yes. I've never said injuries are out of bounds as a topic, but I think if you're applying it for wins, you also have to apply it for loses, i.e., the loss against Toronto. Either way, winning that many titles is impressive, as it would be even if they'd "only" won three.

It's about the principle and I've always applied it both ways for the Warriors, it's just that in their case it's unprecedented good luck and only one notable example of bad luck and even that was helpful in a sense because it allowed them to rest after 5 straight Finals and get a few high picks.

To me, it's about who you beat or what you had to overcome, not the end result. For example, had the Nuggets pulled off the comeback vs the Timberwolves, that would have meant more for their resume or "legacy" than their championship did.

[R. DeMurre]

To me, it's about who you beat or what you had to overcome, not the end result. For example, had the Nuggets pulled off the comeback vs the Timberwolves, that would have meant more for their resume or "legacy" than their championship did.


So if the Nuggets had won game 7 against the T-wolves and then lost to Dallas in the conference finals, you would've rated that higher than them going 16-4 in last year's playoffs and winning a ring? I find that hard to believe. I get the whole context & nuance angle, and that's lots of fun to talk about, but ultimately it's about winning championships, not consolation points.

[TD 21]

So if the Nuggets had won game 7 against the T-wolves and then lost to Dallas in the conference finals, you would've rated that higher than them going 16-4 in last year's playoffs and winning a ring? I find that hard to believe. I get the whole context & nuance angle, and that's lots of fun to talk about, but ultimately it's about winning championships, not consolation points.

I would have considered it their greatest achievement to date, just like I consider the Spurs greatest to be dethroning the Lakers in '03 and beating the Thunder in '14.

The thing with championships is, when you luck into an all time great player and have a decent enough team around them, sometimes (especially in this era) the path clears, like it did for the Nuggets. Granted, they left no doubt with their performance, but still.

[scott]

yeah

only laker fans count those minneapolis titles…

they exist in fantasy land

Celtics fans also count titles when the league was onl 6 teams and full of accountants and plumbers. Celtics are tied with the Spurs with 5 titles since the Merger, only the Bulls (6) and Lakers (11) have more. The Celtics only have 1 title since 1990 and are generally an overrated historical franchise.

As much as I hate the Lakers, they're one of a few franchises since the 1990 who've been able to win in distinct, unrelated eras (the Pistons being the other obvious one... the Heat and Spurs are more debatable, but I count them because I think Wade-Shaq Heat are very different from the Bron-Wade Heat, and the 1999 Spurs are distinctly different from the 03/05/07 Spurs which are distinctly different from the 14 Spurs).

[Spurs Homer]

Celtics fans also count titles when the league was onl 6 teams and full of accountants and plumbers. Celtics are tied with the Spurs with 5 titles since the Merger, only the Bulls (6) and Lakers (11) have more. The Celtics only have 1 title since 1990 and are generally an overrated historical franchise.

As much as I hate the Lakers, they're one of a few franchises since the 1990 who've been able to win in distinct, unrelated eras (the Pistons being the other obvious one... the Heat and Spurs are more debatable, but I count them because I think Wade-Shaq Heat are very different from the Bron-Wade Heat, and the 1999 Spurs are distinctly different from the 03/05/07 Spurs which are distinctly different from the 14 Spurs).

The City of Boston is the city of boston and whether it was wooden baskets or whatever - they won titles in the city of boston...

the city of los angeles is NOT the city of minneapolis...get it?

[LeBowen]

Celtics are the biggest pretenders in a long time.

If they make it to the finals, they have no chance.
There's just no extra gear a championship team needs.
How can you be a big favorite and then not send a message to a team that just played 7 games?
This had to be an early blowout.

[DAF86]

Haliburton just Manued White.

[scott]

I realize Mathurin has been hurt and Walker is a rookie, but what are their roles on the Pacers next year? Just more ammo for the team? I assume they resign Siakam but have a decision to make on Toppin (RFA). Mathurin seems like someone that maybe they could move off of for a better fit?

[NASpurs]

Celtics are the biggest pretenders in a long time.

If they make it to the finals, they have no chance.
There's just no extra gear a championship team needs.
How can you be a big favorite and then not send a message to a team that just played 7 games?
This had to be an early blowout.

Like half of their fg attempts are 3 pointers. They live and die by the 3. Nearly unbeatable when those 3s fall and incredibly beatable when those 3s aren't falling.

[LeBowen]

Like half of their fg attempts are 3 pointers. They live and die by the 3. Nearly unbeatable when those 3s fall and incredibly beatable when those 3s aren't falling.

Poor man's MDA Rockets.
Except that even with all his choking, Harden was a few tiers above Tatum.

Indiana chokes it awat, shame.
Brown is a way better leader than Tatum.

[lefty]

Amazing choke job

[scott]

Geez, Pacers. First Hali dribbles off his knee and then turnover on the inbounds. Self inflicted wounds that might cost them this game

[NASpurs]

Just fucking foul brah :lol

[chunticakes]

Why didn't they foul??

[GAustex]

Thank your Lucky Charms Cs

[lefty]

Just fucking foul brah :lol

:lol we sre gettingJim Carrey’s performance from dumb and dumber

[heyheymymy]

dude it's a tie game Hali you don't need at 3

There was enough time to take it to the rim and get a high percentage look or maybe draw on a defender for FTs

[benefactor]

Just fucking foul brah :lol
How many times are we going to have to see this fucking movie lol. I'm not sure what is in the head of these Old School coaches that leads them to not foul at a moment like that, but I guess they will just have to keep losing

[Fizziksman]

dude it's a tie game Hali you don't need at 3

There was enough time to take it to the rim and get a high percentage look or maybe draw on a defender for FTs

Warriors Dynasty brain rotted the NBA

[heyheymymy]

lol Pacers FTs 3-3

Celtics FTs 17-23

BOS is the most babyshit franchise

[scott]

How many times are we going to have to see this fucking movie lol. I'm not sure what is in the head of these Old School coaches that leads them to not foul at a moment like that, but I guess they will just have to keep losing

:pop: it's not who we are

[benefactor]

Rick Carlisle arguing about a foul. Hilarious

[scott]

Haliburton with some backbreaking unforced TOs in the clutch. Maybe it's a good thing we picked Vassell instead.

[Mr. Body]

Why are the gameplans of these teams so completely shitty?

[lefty]

:lol Siakam

[LeBowen]

Why are the gameplans of these teams so completely shitty?

Was Carlisle a fraud all along?

[benefactor]

The Pacers lost this series with one call in game 1. Bookmark it.

[timtonymanu]

Haliburton with some backbreaking unforced TOs in the clutch. Maybe it's a good thing we picked Vassell instead.

You’re right. Vassell would have threw up bad shot after bad shot instead.

[lefty]

smart foul by White

WHICH IS WHAT JIM CARREY SHOULD HSVE DONE EAR’LIER

[NASpurs]

You’re right. Vassell would have threw up bad shot after bad shot instead.

Dollar General Kobe

[heyheymymy]

What is a wee bit of plus 23 points from the free throw line amongst ECF teams

[benefactor]

smart foul by White

WHICH IS WHAT JIM CARREY SHOULD HSVE DONE EAR’LIER
Loser ball tbh

[scott]

You’re right. Vassell would have threw up bad shot after bad shot instead.

At least a bad shot as a chance to go in... never seen a bucket made by dribbling it off your knee or losing the handle out of bounds!

[benefactor]

They still didn't foul. Going for the steal with 13 seconds left:lol

Carlisle should be embarrassed with his coaching at the end

[benefactor]

Celtics in 5

[Spurs Homer]

Pacers bout to find out what happens in the playoffs when you give one game away…

they will look back after game 6 or 7 elimination on giving away game 1….

[benefactor]

Pacers bout to find out what happens in the playoffs when you give one game away…

they will look back after game 6 or 7 elimination on giving away game 1….
It's just mind boggling. I do not understand this stubborn idea of not fouling when you are up by 3. Why in the hell are you so against it?

[Spurs Homer]

It's just mind boggling. I do not understand this stubborn idea of not fouling when you are up by 3. Why in the hell are you so against it?


school of pop?

[Mr. Body]

Pacers bout to find out what happens in the playoffs when you give one game away…

they will look back after game 6 or 7 elimination on giving away game 1….

I mean, they just won a series after being gotten 0-2, but yes, this was stupid.

The bad play in this postseason is getting on my nerves.

[TD 21]

It's not about "killer instinct" with the Celtics, as I've said ad nauseam it's about the lack of an MVP caliber player/lead play maker. Tatum is a better overall player than Mitchell, Haliburton, etc. but so often the other team has the best shot creator in the series.

As for not fouling up 3 late, some of it is it's not as easy as it seems sometimes considering how fast things go (namely the player being able to go into shooting motion), but some of it is just old school macho crap like the aversion to switching.

[timtonymanu]

At least a bad shot as a chance to go in... never seen a bucket made by dribbling it off your knee or losing the handle out of bounds!

Yeah but let’s not compare a guy who actually helped his team make the playoffs vs. a guy who we arguably played better without his presence and is an evident ball stopper.

[daslicer]

Haliburton with some backbreaking unforced TOs in the clutch. Maybe it's a good thing we picked Vassell instead.

Vassell did get the Spurs Victor which is something Haliburton would not have been able to do since the Spurs would have won more games with him lol.

[SouthernFryd]

I want to see BOSTON win it all. For one reason...

Al Horford.

No man in the NBA right now deserves it more. Doesn't mean shit, I know...but, I'd love to see him win a Championship before he's done. Guy has always been a workhorse, and he still is. At 37 he's hustling more and playing smarter than most of the kids around him.

[daslicer]

I want to see BOSTON win it all. For one reason...

Al Horford.

No man in the NBA right now deserves it more. Doesn't mean shit, I know...but, I'd love to see him win a Championship before he's done. Guy has always been a workhorse, and he still is. At 37 he's hustling more and playing smarter than most of the kids around him.

He's kind of like Kevin Willis in '03 except a little bit younger. He's always been a solid player for his whole entire career. It feels like he's been a 10-8 guy forever.

The reason I would love to see the Celtics win is for them to get 18 which would drive Laker fans and their media crazy. I would love to see how that pandemonium plays out from a comedic angle.

[lebomb]

I want to see BOSTON win it all. For one reason...

Al Horford.

No man in the NBA right now deserves it more. Doesn't mean shit, I know...but, I'd love to see him win a Championship before he's done. Guy has always been a workhorse, and he still is. At 37 he's hustling more and playing smarter than most of the kids around him.


Awwwww hellznaw!!! Boston has 17 rings. Thats MORE than enough. I can live with anyone else winning the Chip, but not Boston. :vomit:

[MultiTroll]

It's just mind boggling. I do not understand this stubborn idea of not fouling when you are up by 3. Why in the hell are you so against it?


school of pop?
Nope.
Turns out Jim Carrey and Haliburton say the plan was to foul.

Now, both Rick Carlisle and Tyrese Haliburton said the intent was to foul on the play. But with the way Brown caught the pass already faced up to the basket with the threat of pulling the trigger immediately, Pascal Siakam made the quick decision to not risk fouling on a 3-point attempt.

However, Carrey then doubles down on Siakims uber low IQ decision to do the loser thing and not foul:

"That's probably the right decision, you don't want to give up a four-point play. Look, a lot of things had to go wrong for us and right for them. They did. We have to own it."

Link
Pacers will regret not fouling Celtics' Jaylen Brown, but the mistake was made before he ever caught the ball (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/pacers-will-regret-not-fouling-celtics-jaylen-brown-but-the-mistake-was-made-before-he-ever-caught-the-ball/ar-BB1mPwCZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=cea5e3f641d649899cb3611c8ae82252&ei=11)

[Spurs Homer]

I want to see BOSTON win it all. For one reason...

Al Horford.

No man in the NBA right now deserves it more. Doesn't mean shit, I know...but, I'd love to see him win a Championship before he's done. Guy has always been a workhorse, and he still is. At 37 he's hustling more and playing smarter than most of the kids around him.

nah

fuck whore-ford

the celtics cannot win any more titles...

wemby ONLY needs 12 to tie the celtics - and this past season was a waste of his generational all time best talent

[daslicer]

Awwwww hellznaw!!! Boston has 17 rings. Thats MORE than enough. I can live with anyone else winning the Chip, but not Boston. :vomit:

I get it they have the most rings already, but I have never found Celtics fans to be insufferable like Laker fans are with their rings.

[R. DeMurre]

It's Boston's depth with Holiday and White (and Porzingis, if he can come back) that makes them dangerous. Tatum and Brown are an underwhelming one-two punch, but the Celts can at least look at a team like the '04 Pistons that beat the Shaq/Kobe Lakers for inspiration. Brown is such an interesting study in the modern NBA player: massive max contract, good raw numbers, extremely average shooting percentages (TS%, eFG%, 3pt%, FT%), extremely mediocre advanced/impact numbers. He's a great illustration of that now old maxim that coaches and scouts believe there are about 10 Players truly worthy of a Max contract, while agents & players believe there are 50 guys deserving of one.

[Obstructed_View]

Halliburton was the opposite of clutch.

[Tyronn Lue]

Nope.
Turns out Jim Carrey and Haliburton say the plan was to foul.

Now, both Rick Carlisle and Tyrese Haliburton said the intent was to foul on the play. But with the way Brown caught the pass already faced up to the basket with the threat of pulling the trigger immediately, Pascal Siakam made the quick decision to not risk fouling on a 3-point attempt.

However, Carrey then doubles down on Siakims uber low IQ decision to do the loser thing and not foul:

"That's probably the right decision, you don't want to give up a four-point play. Look, a lot of things had to go wrong for us and right for them. They did. We have to own it."

Link
Pacers will regret not fouling Celtics' Jaylen Brown, but the mistake was made before he ever caught the ball (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/pacers-will-regret-not-fouling-celtics-jaylen-brown-but-the-mistake-was-made-before-he-ever-caught-the-ball/ar-BB1mPwCZ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=cea5e3f641d649899cb3611c8ae82252&ei=11)

Shai fouled PJW on that same basic shot situation and lost because of it, people said he should have risked the shot vs the foul. It's a tossup. What they should be talking about is not calling a timeout instead of turning the ball over up 3 with 10 seconds to play on the inbounds.

[MultiTroll]

Shai fouled PJW on that same basic shot situation and lost because of it, people said he should have risked the shot vs the foul. It's a tossup. What they should be talking about is not calling a timeout instead of turning the ball over up 3 with 10 seconds to play on the inbounds.
Not even close to the same.
Indy was up by 3
OKC was up by 1.

Yes the failure to call time out and have the whole court to work with was below 4th grade level BBIQ stoopid.
Carlise admitted he blew that.

[Tyronn Lue]

Not even close to the same.
Indy was up by 3
OKC was up by 1.

Yes the failure to call time out and have the whole court to work with was below 4th grade level BBIQ stoopid.
Carlise admitted he blew that.
These teams have horrible decision making under pressure. It eats at me that they play downhill all game and then intentionally start playing uphill when they get a small lead late in the game. They stop attacking, start throttling back. It's annoying.

Otherwise, you say "not close to the same" but you show both teams had the lead and the difference is 2 points. If Siakam fouls and the 3 goes in, it's game over if the FT is made. They at least had OT to win it. Hell, Haliburton passed on a look he made several times to get a contested heave. That play did not decide that game.

[MultiTroll]

These teams have horrible decision making under pressure. It eats at me that they play downhill all game and then intentionally start playing uphill when they get a small lead late in the game. They stop attacking, start throttling back. It's annoying.

Otherwise, you say "not close to the same" but you show both teams had the lead and the difference is 2 points. If Siakam fouls and the 3 goes in, it's game over if the FT is made. They at least had OT to win it. Hell, Haliburton passed on a look he made several times to get a contested heave. That play did not decide that game.
The difference was +3 for Indy.
Quite easy to foul when Brown was not in the act of shooting. Brown gave him 100% opportunity when he brought the ball DOWN on an attempted positioning for shot /rip thru. All Siakim had to do was hack down.
As it was, Siakim did almost foul him 1 second later during the shot.
Just brainless super low IQ basketball.
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Agree it is maddening when teams go into the Playing Not To Lose offense vs continuing on with open O.

[Tyronn Lue]

The difference was +3 for Indy.
Quite easy to foul when Brown was not in the act of shooting. Brown gave him 100% opportunity when he brought the ball DOWN on an attempted positioning for shot /rip thru. All Siakim had to do was hack down.
As it was, Siakim did almost foul him 1 second later during the shot.
Just brainless super low IQ basketball.
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Agree it is maddening when teams go into the Playing Not To Lose offense vs continuing on with open O.
If OKC was up by 1 and Indy was up by 3, the difference is +2. Brown still had to make a tough shot.

[heyheymymy]

Mavs +29 in the paint

Timbys +34 3pm

[heyheymymy]

Kat then ant both hitting crucial 3s

[heyheymymy]

Nice ant vs luka 4q duel

[NASpurs]

Ok Reggie we get it, Edwards is tired. So is everyone else.

[scott]

After a year of watching some questionable lobs, I feel well qualified to say... you gotta do better than that, Conley.

[heyheymymy]

Lol since were losing TNT does that mean Reggie is gone

[baseline bum]

Damn this is a fun series. My most anticipated non-Spurs WCF since Warriors-Thunder in 2016.

[Spurs Homer]

Gotta give jason kidd props…

mavs game plan is working…and had the mavs even had a semi-decent 3pt fg %

they would be way ahead

also

kyrie mentioned that the mavs were well aware the wolves were coming off a game 7

j kidd doing decent coaching

[Spurs Homer]

I like this mavs team…and

starting to hate Gobert and that little arrogant prick- anthony edwards

[lefty]

Kyrie and Fatty Acid are fun to watch

[NASpurs]

I found myself rooting for the Mavs instead of the Wolves. My feelings have betrayed me I guess.

[CGD]

Kyrie and Fatty Acid are fun to watch

Luka is much more enjoyable to watch when he’s not a whiny bitch. Something clicked for him last series and it’s been great to see.

[lefty]

Luka is much more enjoyable to watch when he’s not a whiny bitch. Something clicked for him last series and it’s been great to see.

eh he was looking at the refs after every possession tonight

[MultiTroll]

Lively is fitting in great with the Mavs.

[MultiTroll]

Lol since were losing TNT does that mean Reggie is gone
Replaced by Apemond.
Hard to believe it's a downgrade from Regina.

[Tyronn Lue]

Ok Reggie we get it, Edwards is tired. So is everyone else.
Reggie annoying as fuck, keep saying shit that is obviously wrong. SVG sounds like a ghoul.

[heyheymymy]

lol Tyronn Lue

the changing avatars are hilarious

[BatManu20]

Mavs are gonna ring tbh. Pretty annoying but cant hate too much. They're playing great ball right now. Luka's by far the best player left in the Playoffs, Kyrie's arguably the best #2, and they're winning by playing great defense. They shot less than 25% from 3 tonight and still won on the road. That's the sign of a great defensive team. That's championship basketball tbh.

[ismael-robert]

If kleber can come back n drop some 3s....

[taps]

Reggie’s commentary is like Clyde Drexler-bad.

[Robz4000]

Damn this is a fun series. My most anticipated non-Spurs WCF since Warriors-Thunder in 2016.

Starting to get the feeling this might be a short series based off Ant and KAT's post game interviews tbh.

:lmao using the tired excuse

[RC_Drunkford]

There‘s so much parity in the league right now that you can really win a championship with only 2 star players. Another reason why the Spurs should accelerate the rebuild.

[Robz4000]

There‘s so much parity in the league right now that you can really win a championship with only 2 star players. Another reason why the Spurs should accelerate the rebuild.

Depth also plays a huge roll tbh, which the Spurs lack. They need to hit in these next two drafts tbh.

[timtonymanu]

I honestly don't even hate the Mavs at all. I get it for the Texas rivalry, but at least they don't have faggots like Jason Terry on this Mavs team.

[spurraider21]

Mavs crushed OKC on the boards en route to that win. didnt think they'd have that same success against minnesota, but they won on the boards in game 1. lively's physicality was getting to them

[Ef-man]

OKC was taking and missing too many 3pt shots (made 18 out of 49) vs Mavs shooting 6 out of 25 3PTers.

OKC making only 11 out of 18 FTs (61%) vs Mavs 16 out of 17 FTs (94%) did not help either.

[heyheymymy]

what would be awesome is if DAL makes it to the Finals and lost to BOS

Lakers and Mavs fans in disarray and Celtics fans no more chirpy than they always are anyway really. Plus MIN fails so the league doesn't react with going big which would affect Wemby negatively.

[Fizziksman]

what would be awesome is if DAL makes it to the Finals and lost to BOS

Lakers and Mavs fans in disarray and Celtics fans no more chirpy than they always are anyway really. Plus MIN fails so the league doesn't react with going big which would affect Wemby negatively.

would rather Minny goes to the finals and lose so the Jordan comparisons pretty much collapse since losing in the Finals is the worst thing that can happen

[lefty]

Replaced by Apemond.
Hard to believe it's a downgrade from Regina.
nah Green is an upgrade over sensitive Reggie

[MultiTroll]

nah Green is an upgrade over sensitive Reggie
I had just finished seeing an article whereupon Apemond was complaining to Shaq that if it were he (Apemond) who threw on the court what Jomal Murray did, then he (Apemond) would have recieved much heftier fine including suspension.

Apemond playing the NBA victim card.

Yep.

[MultiTroll]

Salute to MN fans.

Draymond Green heckled by fans on Inside the NBA as Shaquille O'Neal intervenes (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/draymond-green-heckled-by-fans-on-inside-the-nba-as-shaquille-o-neal-intervenes/ar-BB1mTe27?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=9b36975be6aa4e95838a8cdb1e2744ec&ei=15)

:lol Apemond

[Pauleta14]

nah Green is an upgrade over sensitive Reggie

Reggie sucks there's no debating that ^^

But Dramond is horrible, maybe bc he's still a player but he's unable to stay neutral/objective, he has the ego of an all time great that he isn't.

[Tyronn Lue]

Reggie sucks there's no debating that ^^

But Dramond is horrible, maybe bc he's still a player but he's unable to stay neutral/objective, he has the ego of an all time great that he isn't.
He's ok, but he does have some sense of entitlement. He has 4 rings but they are recent compared to the others and his personality doesn't go well with the playfulness of the rest. Shaq has that issue to a lesser degree. Draymond is always trying to bring his brand of truth but it conveniently favors Draymond.

[Spurs Homer]

I honestly don't even hate the Mavs at all. I get it for the Texas rivalry, but at least they don't have faggots like Jason Terry on this Mavs team.

same here...

i had genuine hate for a few of those kunts on that team - unlike others here - I also hated dirk at the time (now not so much) but there were some little kunts that were really hateable lol

this mavs team for some reason makes me pull for them so far in these playoffs...
maybe because of ant edwards , KAT, mcdaniels, are all fuckin douchey as fuck

Would love to see a mavs /pacers final - just for diversity....
but a mavs/celtics final with tatum premium choke on display would be cool also...

[Pauleta14]

He's ok, but he does have some sense of entitlement. He has 4 rings but they are recent compared to the others and his personality doesn't go well with the playfulness of the rest. Shaq has that issue to a lesser degree. Draymond is always trying to bring his brand of truth but it conveniently favors Draymond.

Yep. At best it's way too early for him to get that position

I still find it surreal that a current player is so comfortable criticizing his peers publically. It's never been seen before in any sports...

[daslicer]

Yep. At best it's way too early for him to get that position

I still find it surreal that a current player is so comfortable criticizing his peers publically. It's never been seen before in any sports...

Especially knowing that Draymond is giving these guys bulletin board material when they face him during the regular season considering the Warriors are no longer a contender. He definitely will have to eat whatever he says. I also guess he probably feels invincible or is thinking he can always assault that opposing player he is criticizing in case his team is losing in the future against that opposing player.

[Tyronn Lue]

Especially knowing that Draymond is giving these guys bulletin board material when they face him during the regular season considering the Warriors are no longer a contender. He definitely will have to eat whatever he says. I also guess he probably feels invincible or is thinking he can always assault that opposing player he is criticizing in case his team is losing in the future against that opposing player.
When anyone else on that set (or any other set) speaks, it's opinion from pundits and experts. Draymond seems to be walking a fine line between guest appearance and tampering. I have a feeling that the NBA is going to have to sit down with the NBAPA and hash out what is and isn't NBA brand friendly. I couldn't imagine being on a talk show and trashing someone from the company I work for, for a separate paycheck, then going back to work like it didn't just happen. All the while openly telling the audience who you would like to work for if the situation arises. Imagine if Dennis Rodman had a podcast back then, that's about where Draymond is now except he's not as controversial.

[rascal]

Starting to get the feeling this might be a short series based off Ant and KAT's post game interviews tbh.

:lmao using the tired excuse

They will easily win the next game.

[daslicer]

what would be awesome is if DAL makes it to the Finals and lost to BOS

Lakers and Mavs fans in disarray and Celtics fans no more chirpy than they always are anyway really. Plus MIN fails so the league doesn't react with going big which would affect Wemby negatively.

Spurs doing future planning for Victor based off of these series is inane. There is no point of it.

[lefty]

Reggie sucks there's no debating that ^^

But Dramond is horrible, maybe bc he's still a player but he's unable to stay neutral/objective, he has the ego of an all time great that he isn't.
I mean, when I said upgrade, I didn't mean major upgrade :lol

[lefty]

They will easily win the next game.
Silverberg is already on the case

[Pauleta14]

I mean, when I said upgrade, I didn't mean major upgrade :lol

fair enough :lol

(at least he's able to pronounce Wemby's name properly ^^)

[benefactor]

Celtics in 5

[ace3g]

Can Derrick White grow his hair out again? Finals could be battle of the doppelgangers!!!


Derrick White vs Dereck Lively.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fv-4Cm2XgAA2oa2.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GN6NZpMWYAAXD_A?format=jpg&name=900x900

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOYw1COXsAEI5pk?format=jpg&name=medium

[CorrectCrusader]

It's pretty crazy that Atlanta could've had a better play for far less if they weren't in such a rush to acquire Dejounte, lol

[lefty]

Luka :wow

[Spurs Homer]

Anthony Jordan Edwards not barking and talking shit lately….

[Knoxxx]

Doncic looks like an ass wipe, running his mouth all the time like that. Wemby would have blocked that low arc 3 PT shot.

[NASpurs]

Doncic looks like an ass wipe, running his mouth all the time like that. Wemby would have blocked that low arc 3 PT shot.

I love it :lol

[Spurs Homer]

Doncic looks like an ass wipe, running his mouth all the time like that. Wemby would have blocked that low arc 3 PT shot.

karma

ant edwards and mcdaniel showing no class when they eliminated the nuggets…
comes back to bite them…

[lefty]

LMAO Chuck silenced those Wolves fans

[Mr. Body]

Minny have been immature dickwads since they kept feeding Edwards trying to get him 50 with the game out of hand against us at the end of last season. You don't do that shit.

[MultiTroll]

Hmmmn will it take Wemby another season to be better then Doncic?

And how the hell do the TPups let Goober end up one on one at the top of the arc with 7 seconds left for the game decider.

[Spurs Homer]

DPOY my ass

[MultiTroll]

https://youtu.be/WCeAQZYKjwc
I don't know, have Goobert guard Doncic at the top of the key with the game on the line?

[tknapp777]

So disrespectful to Towns sitting him 4th qtr. He’s your 1b stud. No other star player would get that treatment.

[NASpurs]

Couldn't happen to a better group

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTlsZGY0NGo2ZmI3MHF2N3N1N3ZjaG0 4M3NlaWZ1Y3NlMHh2dGlmYSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/tUiJODT4ozZ73FOeLy/giphy.gif
https://giphy.com/gifs/hamlet-minnesota-timberwolves-anthony-edwards-dx-chop-tUiJODT4ozZ73FOeLy

[Bynumite]

No spurfan should be happy about any of this :lol

Mavs ring, and it's almost certain that Wemby joins Luka in Dallas at some point, if the spurs don't get their shit together soon.

[lefty20]

No spurfan should be happy about any of this :lol

Mavs ring, and it's almost certain that Wemby joins Luka in Dallas at some point, if the spurs don't get their shit together soon.

Celts should beat the Mavs. Assuming they are done with their choking ways.

18>17 soon, tbh.

[NASpurs]

Seeing dudes like Gafford and Lively getting lob after lob... only if Wemby had a dude who could suck in the defense and knows how to lob...

[timtonymanu]

Gobert showing why wemby was robbed of DPOY

[spurs1990]

Dallas Mavericks 2024 national champsions lets gooooo!

[BatManu20]

Celts should beat the Mavs. Assuming they are done with their choking ways.

18>17 soon, tbh.

Never trust a Jayson Tatum-led team to beat anyone in the NBA Finals tbh. Celtics are perennial playoff chokers and they haven't been tested at all these Playoffs. I'm definitely taking Mavs over Boston.

[Notorious H.O.P.]

Looked like Luca said "Go home bitch!" Wonder if he was talking to a fan or someone in the Wolves organization.

[Obstructed_View]

Looked like Luca said "Go home bitch!" Wonder if he was talking to a fan or someone in the Wolves organization.
He was yelling right at Rudy after he hit that three. That was fun.

[Texas_Ranger]

Looked like Luca said "Go home bitch!" Wonder if he was talking to a fan or someone in the Wolves organization.

that was to a fan that was talking to him all game.

[ismael-robert]

If Dallas wins we have to hear monostrodomos constant bloviating…only reason I want them to lose

[daslicer]

If Dallas wins we have to hear monostrodomos constant locating…only reason I want them to lose

If Porzingis actually comes back, then I got the Celtics as a lock to win it all.

[heyheymymy]

that was to a fan that was talking to him all game.

gotta admit it was a badass dagger from Luka and I don't condone the chirping but you earned yourself the right to bark I suppose and it is entertaining swagger to a degree

still, makes me miss Manu Ginobili who used to hit those big shots and walk to the bench with a straight face and trying to struggle out of celebrating teammates grasp lol maybe every now and then just throwing one simple fist pump with that grimace on his face but none of this squawking other guys do

[heyheymymy]

yeah what is the status on KP

[Spurminator]

DPOY Gobert is the 3rd best defensive big in this series.

[heyheymymy]

Gobert really should give Wemby back his DPOY

[TD 21]

Anthony Jordan Edwards not barking and talking shit lately….

Yet you don't have a problem with Doncic doing it?

I can't stand Edwards and Jokic was my favorite player until Wembanyama, but this is one of the many problems with basketball discourse today.

You've got many white and white adjacent people pushing their agenda on the one hand and on the other hand you've got many black people from the inner city pushing theirs.



If Porzingis actually comes back, then I got the Celtics as a lock to win it all.

It's all about Doncic's health (and to a far lesser extent, Kleber), since he's the lone superstar remaining and he has enough talent/fit around him.

The only reason I didn't pick them to win the championship was/is because of that.

[z0sa]

Seeing dudes like Gafford and Lively getting lob after lob... only if Wemby had a dude who could suck in the defense and knows how to lob...

This forum (and Reddit even moreso) is full of so-called basketball fans who say such plays for Wemby are simply impossible, too. :lol It's been indirectly great watching Lively and co. get lob after lob that all these 'tards said not even Wemby could handle.

[Fizziksman]

Gobert really should give Wemby back his DPOY

Agree

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1d0i6xy/yes_wemby_can_block_that_magical_luka_shot/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1d0i6xy/yes_wemby_can_block_that_magical_luka_shot/)

[MultiTroll]

Moar corrupt NBA bullshyte at critical time, less then one minute left in Game 2:
1794393544456634825

[Spurs Homer]

Yet you don't have a problem with Doncic doing it?

I can't stand Edwards and Jokic was my favorite player until Wembanyama, but this is one of the many problems with basketball discourse today.

You've got many white and white adjacent people pushing their agenda on the one hand and on the other hand you've got many black people from the inner city pushing theirs.




It's all about Doncic's health (and to a far lesser extent, Kleber), since he's the lone superstar remaining and he has enough talent/fit around him.

The only reason I didn't pick them to win the championship was/is because of that.

Nope. No problem at all.

[TD 21]

Nope. No problem at all.

Way to be consistent.

[tonight...you]

Couldn't happen to a better group

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTlsZGY0NGo2ZmI3MHF2N3N1N3ZjaG0 4M3NlaWZ1Y3NlMHh2dGlmYSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/tUiJODT4ozZ73FOeLy/giphy.gif
https://giphy.com/gifs/hamlet-minnesota-timberwolves-anthony-edwards-dx-chop-tUiJODT4ozZ73FOeLy
Old boy dropping the DX chop.
Respect.

[MultiTroll]

Old boy dropping the DX chop.
Respect.
Is that supposed to be popping the neighbors cat or what?

[MultiTroll]

Props to Boston for keeping the pressure on but....

Pathetic choke by Indy.

[MultiTroll]

Clearly a blocking foul on Jrue Holiday vs Nemblard. Feet moving AND got him with the body.

What a shitty way to gift the turnover to the Celtics.

[Slippy]

Agree

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1d0i6xy/yes_wemby_can_block_that_magical_luka_shot/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/1d0i6xy/yes_wemby_can_block_that_magical_luka_shot/)

Gorbetr shouldn't of been out there. Falls on coach. He can't guard out on the perimeter. From what iv read they wanted to force luca into a 2..As soon they switched Luca toyed with an off balance Gobert who started backpedalling giving Luca all the room in t he worl to shoot that 3. There's vids out there showing McDaniel who got switched looking upset before Luca shot that 3. I was like that's game before he shot it

Dumb D by the 4x DPOY.

[Spurs Homer]

Way to be consistent.

Edwards has not done shit- ever
and he was talking shit to the defending champs who had played with class and accepted the loss

Among other douchey behavior before he has proven anything…

and i just dont like him

not crazy about luka over celebrating- but at least he has done shit before and gobert and mcdaniels and other t wolves have shown some pretty aggressive fouling and borderline dirty play

so im giving luka a pass after imposing his will

[TD 21]

Edwards has not done shit- ever
and he was talking shit to the defending champs who had played with class and accepted the loss

Among other douchey behavior before he has proven anything…

and i just dont like him

not crazy about luka over celebrating- but at least he has done shit before and gobert and mcdaniels and other t wolves have shown some pretty aggressive fouling and borderline dirty play

so im giving luka a pass after imposing his will

So now how you conduct or comport yourself has to do with what you've accomplished? Sounds like an excuse to give the white guy a free pass for similar behavior to the black guy . . . but I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with race.

[MultiTroll]

So now how you conduct or comport yourself has to do with what you've accomplished? Sounds like an excuse to give the white guy a free pass for similar behavior to the black guy . . . but I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with race.
He just gave you the reasons why.

I'm sure yours doesn't have anything to do with race.

[TD 21]

He just gave you the reasons why.

I'm sure yours doesn't have anything to do with race.

Not if you can read, you'd know it doesn't. I said I can't stand Edwards, Jokic was my favorite player pre Wembanyama and the discourse in this league has turned toxic on this subject on both sides.

[MultiTroll]

I said I can't stand Edwards,
So it's okay for you to "can't stand" Edwards, but heaven forbid if Spurs Homer or anyone else finds Edwards acting the ass these playoffs off putting.

[objective]

Listening to a Timberwolves-centric podcast and the cope accidentally accidentally had an opposite effect for me

A quick excuse early in the show was about how Luca was 25 and Edwards 22, that the Mavs had been working on this for years and that's how their defense was so connected on a string and why Luca was so dominant: the experience of Dallas basically, guys who had been together with tons of experience unlike the innocent puppies

But it was basically B.S. because the Mavs have some of the least time playing together you'll ever find, if anything it means Kidd with his staff has become the best coach in the league. Maybe it's all Sweeney as the defensive coordinator, but Kidd is in charge so he gets the credit.

The main players other than Luca:

Irving only played 20 games last year and 58 regular season games this year, not a lot of chemistry time
Gafford traded for this year, only 29 regular season games. (age 25)
Washington traded for this year, only 29 games (age 25)
Jones Jr, first season with the team (age 27)
Lively II, rookie who had an injury the second half of the year (age 20)
Josh Green only 23

These aren't grizzled veterans who could step into any defense beyond Kyrie This isn't a core of players who grew up together over years and years and just had seasons of chemistry

These guys barely know each other and have barely played together. But have been coached up to deliver.

That leaves no excuses for other teams to have a bad defense. Sure, maybe other teams don't have Luka to close for them, but the defense should be working for every team that is properly coached with decent personnel.

If the Spurs aren't playing legit defense next year with everyone on a string, it's all coaching

[Rocalcio]

DPOY my ass

He was one of the best Wolves on the court, and no one can defend Doncic, so Gobert isn’t the one to blame.

[Spurs Homer]

So now how you conduct or comport yourself has to do with what you've accomplished? Sounds like an excuse to give the white guy a free pass for similar behavior to the black guy . . . but I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with race.

hahaha!

i hate trump - is that racist?
i love me some wemby - is that racist?
i just found out luka is not a usa whiteboy - but from some other country - caucasianish...im confused if i should now hate him...is that racist?



hahhahahahaha!

Certain players you hate for their douchey antics like draymond....yes there are also white players that are douchey that i hate - but man = not as much as i hate draymond....is that racist?

[TD 21]

So it's okay for you to "can't stand" Edwards, but heaven forbid if Spurs Homer or anyone else finds Edwards acting the ass these playoffs off putting.

Again, poor reading comprehension. There isn't anything wrong with him (her?) not being able to stand Edwards, but deriding him for certain behavior while giving Puka a free pass for it because he's more accomplished (he's also older) is ludicrous at best and racist at worst.



i just found out luka is not a usa whiteboy - but from some other country - caucasianish

Puka is Slovenian.

[Spurs Homer]

Again, poor reading comprehension. There isn't anything wrong with him (her?) not being able to stand Edwards, but deriding him for certain behavior while giving Puka a free pass for it because he's more accomplished (he's also older) is ludicrous at best and racist at worst.




Puka is Slovenian.

so does this make me racist?


hahahahahahahahaha!

[heyheymymy]

Just now seeing exclusive preview of the Boston Celtics 2024 NBA Finals MVP favorite:

https://media.gettyimages.com/id/1241289101/photo/2022-nba-playoffs-miami-heat-v-boston-celtics.jpg?s=2048x2048&w=gi&k=20&c=w0rf3GsZK01NYox6LrWyv9dqpxyxhlyDbMUYR_wYmH0=

[taps]

When’s Towns gonna post up again? Just one post-up.

[heyheymymy]

Haha Kyle Anderson has the uncontested lay in on the break but checks back to see Ant incoming and selflessly dishes to him lol what a company guy fathead is

[heyheymymy]

Yeah KAT has been jacking threes

[heyheymymy]

Jeez kinda dirty as fuck move from KAT

Basically a running knee to the back of Lively II’s head

[heyheymymy]

Wow KAT is 0-7 0-4 3PM

[taps]

KAT 1 pt 0/7. 0/4 from 3.

Frustrating to see Ant get to the hoop and pass it out to Towns for a brick. Just shoot it man, he’s scared.

[timtonymanu]

If im minny, im looking to trade towns immediately. Guy has always been a disappointment when it matters.

[heyheymymy]

Some drama brewing between Luka and Gobert with Rudy tangling up on Luka a few times with frustration fouls

Luka shooting eye daggers at Gobert and will stare him down after made shots

[taps]

Very upset about Mavs going to the Finals tbh. Fuck the mavs.

[lefty20]

Very upset about Mavs going to the Finals tbh. Fuck the mavs.

It's cool. We got a guy on the job. The Great Forehead will stop them.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRDm_wTz72eNfNWSkYdokRRgAEia4ccl 6Etfg&s

[heyheymymy]

Ant Edwards leads them back in it tied game 77-77

[Spurs Homer]

Edwards on a roll…will be interesting to see who is the real closer in this game….

[Spurs Homer]

These t wolves kunts remind me of the gs phaggots…

their body language says they are pussies…
yet

when they go on a roll and edwards shows flashes

immediately their douchey phaggot antics begin…

[Mr. Body]

Very upset about Mavs going to the Finals tbh. Fuck the mavs.

Eh. The NBA hasn't had a great team in six years or so. Might as well be someone else's turn.

[CGD]

I see the whiney bitch is back. Thought Luka kicked that.

[Spurs Homer]

KATS wife in the morning:



https://youtu.be/wn5yyGOZSww?si=ATRn9cAhxYG6NK7F

[CGD]

Players of all stripes seem to really hate Rudy. Like it’s personal and they want to humiliate him out there. Wonder what the back story there is.

[cutewizard]

So its Dallas versus Boston for the NBA title

hmmmmmmm

[timtonymanu]

Tatum and brown :lol. Dallas in 6, tbh. Only cause Derrick white, horford can go off a game or two

[Robz4000]

Tatum and brown :lol. Dallas in 6, tbh. Only cause Derrick white, horford can go off a game or two

Mavs in 6 only because it isn't 2-3-2 anymore tbh.

[Mr. Body]

Amazing how well Dallas rebuilt the team from two summers ago. Truly one for the ages. I don't doubt ESPN is ignoring all that.

Minnesota has work to do. They need something other than Edwards as a scorer. I'd look into moving KAT for that reason and to get sanity back to their financial structure. See if somehow they can get Mitchell in a three-team, something along those lines. They've also done well constructing the team, but they're clearly short. Flexibility will also help as Edwards gets older.

[taps]

KATS wife in the morning:



https://youtu.be/wn5yyGOZSww?si=ATRn9cAhxYG6NK7F

:lmao

[Robz4000]

Amazing how well Dallas rebuilt the team from two summers ago. Truly one for the ages. I don't doubt ESPN is ignoring all that.

Minnesota has work to do. They need something other than Edwards as a scorer. I'd look into moving KAT for that reason and to get sanity back to their financial structure. See if somehow they can get Mitchell in a three-team, something along those lines. They've also done well constructing the team, but they're clearly short. Flexibility will also help as Edwards gets older.

Really feels like a Young/KAT swap could help both teams tbh.

[Jordan Jackson]

KAT is an oversized Keldon Johnson. Low IQ basketball player with zero feel for the game. He commits the dumbest fouls and his shot selection is ridiculous.

That interview he gave outside the locker room annoyed the shit out of me and I’m not even a wolves fan. WTF is he giggling about? Shit ain’t funny.

[Tyronn Lue]

KAT isn't low IQ. KAT is at the leading edge of the 3pt shooting bigs in the NBA who think they are Steph Curry level reliable from out there, and ignore the fact that Steph didn't have the option to post up and be dominant instead. KAT should be the leader on that team since he's been there what, 9 years? But like Durant prefers to remain in the shadows and collect a paycheck even though he's insanely talented.

[Splits]

Celts should beat the Mavs. Assuming they are done with their choking ways.

18>12 soon, tbh.

Boston>LA

[RC_Drunkford]

all y'all were rooting for the Mavs and now they gon fuck around and win a title. I hope Boston can beat them, although Tatum and Brown always wet the bed when it matters. There's so much parity in the league now that you can get to the finals with a decent team. One more reason why the Spurs should accelerate the rebuild.

[objective]

all y'all were rooting for the Mavs and now they gon fuck around and win a title. I hope Boston can beat them, although Tatum and Brown always wet the bed when it matters. There's so much parity in the league now that you can get to the finals with a decent team. One more reason why the Spurs should accelerate the rebuild.

100%

Gafford and Washington were easily available guys under cost control, Jones Jr is on a minimum. Lively is a rookie.

Coaching matters even when you have the alpha.

Pop and the accidental assistants who hold seats no one in the league even wanted have no excuse anymore. Wright also. Spend less time trying to lose value on second round picks you trade away and more time scouting players who have NBA athleticism.

[John B]

Amazing how well Dallas rebuilt the team from two summers ago. Truly one for the ages. I don't doubt ESPN is ignoring all that.

Minnesota has work to do. They need something other than Edwards as a scorer. I'd look into moving KAT for that reason and to get sanity back to their financial structure. See if somehow they can get Mitchell in a three-team, something along those lines. They've also done well constructing the team, but they're clearly short. Flexibility will also help as Edwards gets older.

Brunson texted. He’s 10 years younger and could’ve signed with Mavs at much cheaper.

[MultiTroll]

Karl-Anthony Towns is shooting 4-of-32 from deep over his last five games, which marks the worst percentage (12.5) from deep (https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/karl_anthony_towns_shooting_woes_sink_to_historic_ lows/s1_13132_40406870) over a five-game span in NBA playoffs history (minimum 30 attempts).

[Mr. Body]

The WCF has been complete shit for like four years running.

[Spurs Homer]

all y'all were rooting for the Mavs and now they gon fuck around and win a title. I hope Boston can beat them, although Tatum and Brown always wet the bed when it matters. There's so much parity in the league now that you can get to the finals with a decent team. One more reason why the Spurs should accelerate the rebuild.

I look at it as a good thing that the mavs get a title now...

soon

luka will break down and kyrie will return to zombie land and their hunger for a title will be satiated and this is all good for wemby and the spurs to start winning titles...

same thing as the nuggets...people were thinking dynasty...they win one - trade their bench away due to finances and they dont look like a dynasty right now...

let these pretenders get their - 1 and done - chips and then step aside for the wemby era

[RC_Drunkford]

there is no dynasty in the league. There are about 8 contenders which are all teams with only 2 star players and major flaws in some areas. The Spurs absolutely have to build a dominant roster with no holes and they can go and string some 3-peats together.

[Mr. Body]

there is no dynasty in the league. There are about 8 contenders which are all teams with only 2 star players and major flaws in some areas. The Spurs absolutely have to build a dominant roster with no holes and they can go and string some 3-peats together.

The top end of the league hasn't existed for about six years. Not even the last GSW title was a great team, they just beat a bunch of Celtics chucklefucks due to experience. Things may get even more dodgy given the CBA restrictions. Definitely the time to be growing a championship hopeful.

[RC_Drunkford]

The top end of the league hasn't existed for about six years. Not even the last GSW title was a great team, they just beat a bunch of Celtics chucklefucks due to experience. Things may get even more dodgy given the CBA restrictions. Definitely the time to be growing a championship hopeful.

our main problem will be OKC since they are doing the same thing we are doing, but are a couple of years ahead

[LeBowen]

our main problem will be OKC since they are doing the same thing we are doing, but are a couple of years ahead

Their situation isn't that ideal.
Chet and Williams extensions start in 26-27 season, SGA's gigantic max extension will start in 27-28.
I don't think having three max players is the way to go with new CBA, they will have no depth whatsoever. Won't have any good role-players.

[lefty]

The WCF has been complete shit for like four years running.
Mavs are up 3-0 but games 2 and 3 were close tbh

[ismael-robert]

Pacers playing better without Hali, he must be trash...at least this is yalls logic with Devin

[lefty20]

The indomitable forehead comes through in the clutch.

[GAustex]

Good for Derrick
I’m going for the Celts cause of him

[Fizziksman]

lol Pacers crying about not getting enough coverage by the media and they lay this massive egg. Just happy the Spurs were able to back it up all those years.

[lefty]

Cool to see former Spurs teammates White and McDermott catching up after the game

[lefty]

I want White to ring obviously, and also Boston to win another title to piss Lakers fans off

But I've always liked Kyrie, and him vs the Boston crowd will be fun

Oh well

[daslicer]

there is no dynasty in the league. There are about 8 contenders which are all teams with only 2 star players and major flaws in some areas. The Spurs absolutely have to build a dominant roster with no holes and they can go and string some 3-peats together.

I think it will be very hard for any team to build a dynasty from this point forward even including teams like the Lakers due to the way the cap is now structured. You will see a lot of teams have issues like the Nuggets did this year which is they can keep their core, but their bench will be garbage due to not having enough money to get quality players on the bench.

[lefty]

Karl-Anthony Towns is shooting 4-of-32 from deep over his last five games, which marks the worst percentage (12.5) from deep (https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/karl_anthony_towns_shooting_woes_sink_to_historic_ lows/s1_13132_40406870) over a five-game span in NBA playoffs history (minimum 30 attempts).
" I am the best shooting big"

[Brazil]

I want White to ring obviously, and also Boston to win another title to piss Lakers fans off

But I've always liked Kyrie, and him vs the Boston crowd will be fun

Oh well

mavs in 5 tbh.. unfortunately

[Brazil]

My POs predictions for the West have been utter shit tbh... I got wrong almost everything :lol

[lefty]

mavs in 5 tbh.. unfortunately
Mavs winning doesn't bother me tbh


5 still superior to 2.... so.... yeah

And we will eventually win a couple more with Wemby (if the FO doesn't fuck up and I have deactivated my jinx powers)

[lefty]

My POs predictions for the West have been utter shit tbh... I got wrong almost everything :lol
I didn't have Dallas in the WCF up until they caught fire to close the regular season
Never bet against a team with good momentum going into the playoffs
But yeah before tht I had Nuggs, Pups and Clips (lol)

[z0sa]

Do Mavs complete the sweep without Lively? I think he's more important than Gafford, by a hair, but it's the combination of the two and the constant threat of fresh-er legs for yet another lob when the other one sits that really hurts teams thus far.

[RC_Drunkford]

I think it will be very hard for any team to build a dynasty from this point forward even including teams like the Lakers due to the way the cap is now structured. You will see a lot of teams have issues like the Nuggets did this year which is they can keep their core, but their bench will be garbage due to not having enough money to get quality players on the bench.

true but the Spurs can since Wemby is on a rookie deal while we can frontload extensions and have ATL picks up to 27 alowing us to have even more players on rookie contracts. We just gotta nail our draft picks.

[heyheymymy]

Lots to consider. Would love for BOS to win and see DAL and LAL fanbases in shambles. BOS winning really doesn't change the title race landscape at all for non Lakers fans league wide and Spurs fans specifically. Do not want DAL to have 2 Mavs are the Spurs rivals and 1 was bad enough.

More I think about it gotta feel like the league actually wouldn't want to disrupt the LA BOS 17/17 tie whereas I also think the league would not want BOS to lose two recent trips to the Finals either. So it's difficult to reconcile.

But with the Kyrie back in BOS narrative I could see the league wanting DAL to be the champ.

-Luka is a better FMVP than anyone on BOS Tatum would be a weak FMVP imho

-preserves the LA BOS title count tie storyline at 17/17

-Kyrie returns to BOS and punks them storyline is rich

-encourages Euro product expansion

[Knoxxx]

Go T Wolves back door sweep!

[NASpurs]

Go T Wolves back door sweep!

Bend over, I'll show you a back door sweep.

(I think I did it correctly)

[Knoxxx]

Serious question why is the donkey allowed to openly and aggressively taunt his opponents?

[Knoxxx]

My POs predictions for the West have been utter shit tbh... I got wrong almost everything :lol

What’d ya have Spurs in the play in?

[scott]

Lots to consider. Would love for BOS to win and see DAL and LAL fanbases in shambles. BOS winning really doesn't change the title race landscape at all for non Lakers fans league wide and Spurs fans specifically. Do not want DAL to have 2 Mavs are the Spurs rivals and 1 was bad enough.

More I think about it gotta feel like the league actually wouldn't want to disrupt the LA BOS 17/17 tie whereas I also think the league would not want BOS to lose two recent trips to the Finals either. So it's difficult to reconcile.

But with the Kyrie back in BOS narrative I could see the league wanting DAL to be the champ.

-Luka is a better FMVP than anyone on BOS Tatum would be a weak FMVP imho

-preserves the LA BOS title count tie storyline at 17/17

-Kyrie returns to BOS and punks them storyline is rich

-encourages Euro product expansion

Just wanted to interject that I don't view DAL as our rivals. As a franchise, we are a clear class above them. The Spurs, Celtics and Lakers are the elite franchises in the NBA everyone else falls in the tiers below. The Lakers are, and will continue to be, our main rival. Dallas is a cute team that from time to time gives us a little bit of headache. I put them in the same category as OKC and Memphis in that regard. I'd put Houston in a higher rivalry class than Dallas. We don't have too much of a direct history with GSW (though 1991 and 2017 playoffs specifically come to mind), but I'd even put them ahead of Dallas.

How I view franchises:

1. All time W/L record (Spurs, Celtics, Lakers - in that order - hold the highest win % and are pretty significantly ahead of the #4 team, Utah). This metrics keeps teams like GSW (below .500) and Chicago (.509) from being in a higher tier.
2. Number of titles. Lakers and Celtics have a leg up on us here, but largely based on the pre-history of a league that had 6 or 8 teams and was full of dentists and plumbers. Since 1980, only the Lakers and Bulls have more. This metric prevents teams like the Jazz, Suns or Thunder (the 4, 5 and 6 teams in all time Win %) from being more highly regarded.
3. Sustained history of success. The Spurs, Lakers and Celtics have a history of success across multiple generations, not just one. A team like Chicago, for example, has never really done anything without #23.
4. Historically significant players. The Spurs have a multitude of HOF players across multiple generations. The Mavericks only really have 1 who built his career and reputation with the team (Dirk). Kidd and Nash spent most of his career (including their best years) on other teams. Every other Mavs HOF player just had some end of career years there.
5. Head to head rivalry. Spurs-Mavs might be fun regular season matchups... but we've played more significant games (in the regular season and post season) against other teams. Manu did gift the Mavs their first finals appearance in 2006 though.

We may be the Mavs rival, but they are not ours.

Edit: corrected typo in #3 to say "without" instead of "with"

[Knoxxx]

3. Sustained history of success. The Spurs, Lakers and Celtics have a history of success across multiple generations, not just one. A team like Chicago, for example, has never really done anything with #23.


WTF!?!

(snark snark GOTCHA!!!)

[scott]

*Without #23, my apologies

[RC_Drunkford]

With Wemby we can actually close in on the Lakers and Celtics when it comes to NBA titles. We might be able to get to 12...

[NASpurs]

Towns is so low IQ. Would make a great member for our current team.

[Knoxxx]

Towns is so low IQ. Would make a great member for our current team.

Or your household!

[MultiTroll]

Total moving screen and additional arm hook by Keebler.

Foul instead called on Goober.

Bogus

[Knoxxx]

Thank God we had Duncan and Robinson not Towns and Gobert.

[DAF86]

Do Mavs complete the sweep without Lively? I think he's more important than Gafford, by a hair, but it's the combination of the two and the constant threat of fresh-er legs for yet another lob when the other one sits that really hurts teams thus far.

Lively has the 2nd best +/- for a rookie in the playoffs, behind the most underrated GOAT of all-time, tbh.

[Knoxxx]

Total moving screen and additional arm hook by Keebler.

Foul instead called on Goober.

Bogus

Im at the six minute mark Q3. Was not even sure about the foul on Towns he was shooting but is a definite klutz.

[MultiTroll]

Gafford swat of Goober called goaltending because it any part of the ball over the cylinder in American ball is a no no?

Stupid rule. Should adopt the Euro rule on 'tending.

[Knoxxx]

Any team playing Kyle Anderson in the playoffs deserves to lose.

Doncic defense is so terrible not sure why teams don’t pick on him all night.

[Knoxxx]

Gafford swat of Goober called goaltending because it any part of the ball over the cylinder in American ball is a no no?

Stupid rule. Should adopt the Euro rule on 'tending.

In the good old days they would let you hit it if it was close and looked like it was coming out.

[NASpurs]

Lucky ugly bastard is finally making his threes. You throw enough shit on the wall, something is bound to stick. Still low IQ.