Alexandre Sarr - 2024 NBA Draft Prospect

[timvp]

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[BatManu20]

He's already got one foot in Atlanta tbh.

[R. DeMurre]

It most likely won't be Sarr, but I'm still hoping that someday the Spurs can feature 15'+ of defensive length in their front court, with Wemby's 8' wingspan + another defender's 7'+...

[r0drig0lac]

first pick

[CGD]

Serious question, if he somehow falls to 4, the Spurs have to take him right?

[Pauleta14]

Serious question, if he somehow falls to 4, the Spurs have to take him right?

It'd probably mean ZR and Reed aren't available so yes. Just bc of the potential

[Seventyniner]

imo Sarr is the least likely player to still be on the board at #4, followed by Risacher.

[Degoat]

Fck it, trade 4 & 8 for 1 and get this guy! Lol jk would be bonkers if it happened.

[Knoxxx]

It most likely won't be Sarr, but I'm still hoping that someday the Spurs can feature 15'+ of defensive length in their front court, with Wemby's 8' wingspan + another defender's 7'+...

Sochan wingspan is 7’

[rascal]

Sochan wingspan is 7’

Why the low block numbers, Sochan plays small. Jumps like a white man

[Knoxxx]

Why the low block numbers, Sochan plays small. Jumps like a white man

I have to credit you for one upping my third grade takes with second grade takes.

That said, I’ve said it before I only like Sochan as a small ball Pf. He’s more the size I prefer for a SF.

As far as his low 3 PT shooting, we want him to shoot 40% from three AFTER he reups on a team friendly deal or else someone will offer him 50 gazillion per.

[AFBlue]

If the Spurs had #1 and didn't have to give up a ton of assets, I'm sure this would be more of a conversation. His length, defensive instincts and fluidity are pretty intriguing.

[TD 21]

Why the low block numbers, Sochan plays small. Jumps like a white man

It's actually 6'11'', which is small for a four.

He is a (half) white man.

[Dejounte]

Power forwards who block shots barely exist anymore. It’s mostly centers.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2024_totals.html#totals_stats::blk

the PF spot is used for versatility these days.

Jalen Duren (someone who should be guarding the paint) only has 7 more blocks than Sochan this season.
rascal (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=914) with his brain dead takes per usual

[Mr. Body]

Power forwards who block shots barely exist anymore. It’s mostly centers.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2024_totals.html#totals_stats::blk

the PF spot is used for versatility these days.

Jalen Duren (someone who should be guarding the paint) only has 7 more blocks than Sochan this season.
rascal (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=914) with his brain dead takes per usual

Davis-Lopez-Holmgren are all in the 178-190 range, with Chet having a fantastic year for a rookie... and Wembanyama still has 64 more blocks than him. It's astounding.

[Knoxxx]

One of the Sochan knocks is he doesn't have the length to guard someone big like Lauri, or stop Doncic from getting his shots. I never liked Sochan as a PF, again except for SMALL BALL. When we are discussing this topic, I went back and looked at that last game Sochan v Doncic, where Doncic shot 6 for 25 or whatever, really bad. One of the clips I noticed the guy really playing nice D and with the length capable to bother the shot of Doncic or say a Keven Durant, was Dominic Barlow.

About Dominick Barlow
Dominick Barlow is a promising forward with an intriguing frame, good length, and an evolving skill set who thrived in the Overtime Elite program. Widely regarded as one of the top-100 prospects in the high school class of 2021 following his senior year at Dumont High School (NJ), Barlow opted to turn pro in lieu of a postgraduate year.
• Measured standing 6’9.75 in shoes with a rapidly improving 221-pound frame and a 7’3 wingspan at the 2022 NBA Draft Combine, Barlow has a very promising frame and is a solid athlete who plays with a strong motor.

NBA 2022 Draft Prospects | Dominick Barlow | NBA.com (https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects/dominick-barlow)

So I don't think we need to get a guy like Buzelis (same height) or a true PF this draft, we need to see how Barlow works for us with more consistent playing time.

Edit: also with Barlow I noticed for a short time we were trying to guard Antemkumpo (sp?) with Sochan which was nerve wracking, that is not a viable matchup. Barlow came in and did a nice job staying in front of Giannis and contesting at the rim.

[mo7888]

One of the Sochan knocks is he doesn't have the length to guard someone big like Lauri, or stop Doncic from getting his shots. I never liked Sochan as a PF, again except for SMALL BALL. When we are discussing this topic, I went back and looked at that last game Sochan v Doncic, where Doncic shot 6 for 25 or whatever, really bad. One of the clips I noticed the guy really playing nice D and with the length capable to bother the shot of Doncic or say a Keven Durant, was Dominic Barlow.

About Dominick Barlow
Dominick Barlow is a promising forward with an intriguing frame, good length, and an evolving skill set who thrived in the Overtime Elite program. Widely regarded as one of the top-100 prospects in the high school class of 2021 following his senior year at Dumont High School (NJ), Barlow opted to turn pro in lieu of a postgraduate year.
• Measured standing 6’9.75 in shoes with a rapidly improving 221-pound frame and a 7’3 wingspan at the 2022 NBA Draft Combine, Barlow has a very promising frame and is a solid athlete who plays with a strong motor.

NBA 2022 Draft Prospects | Dominick Barlow | NBA.com (https://www.nba.com/draft/2022/prospects/dominick-barlow)

So I don't think we need to get a guy like Buzelis (same height) or a true PF this draft, we need to see how Barlow works for us with more consistent playing time.

Edit: also with Barlow I noticed for a short time we were trying to guard Antemkumpo (sp?) with Sochan which was nerve wracking, that is not a viable matchup. Barlow came in and did a nice job staying in front of Giannis and contesting at the rim.

Barlow is intriguing, but he's nowhere near enough of a sure thing that you don't draft a PF because of him.

[BackHome]

I kinda had that thought at the end of the season that it would be nice to see Sochan get some play time at SF and Barlow at the PF position to see how that played out. I think people are still using Sochan as a scapegoat for our season last year but how many times has a coach grabbed a starting PF and told him first day of practice your now going to be starting PG?
Also, Dejounte makes a good point about his blocks and when you add he was playing PG that is actually pretty good block percentage

As far as Barlow I like the kid but he is not stopping me from upgrading at any position I do think he is to small for Center and that his best position is PF. For me I still would like to see how Wemby can handle the 3 and Barlow the 4 and see how that plays out.

[mo7888]

Until Barlow becomes a real threat from 3 (if ever) he needs to play between outside shooters at the 3 and 5. He can't really play alongside sochan until one of them becomes a real deep threat.

[spurs10]

Thanks for the write-up! Yes he seems like he is in Wemby's territory and it's doubtful he falls to 4. Wonder who Wemby would like to see out of this draft?

[Knoxxx]

Barlow is intriguing, but he's nowhere near enough of a sure thing that you don't draft a PF because of him.

I don't think anyone is seeing a realistic PF at the 4 and 8 draft spots. Buzelis maybe, but I don't know that he is even an upgrade from Barlow. That was my main point, Barlow may or may not be a long term solution for us at starting PF, but he could be a very useful piece to the roster and at a bargain price. Thus seeing how this promising 20-year old prospect continues to develop is not something to forget about. He is a versatile defender that can play the 3-5 positions.

[mo7888]

I don't think anyone is seeing a realistic PF at the 4 and 8 draft spots. Buzelis maybe, but I don't know that he is even an upgrade from Barlow. That was my main point, Barlow may or may not be a long term solution for us at starting PF, but he could be a very useful piece to the roster and at a bargain price. Thus seeing how this promising 20-year old prospect continues to develop is not something to forget about. He is a versatile defender that can play the 3-5 positions.

I see Matas quite differently. He's #3 on my BB and #2 on my Spurs board. I think he has a real chance to be the best player in this draft. I see him as having a higher ceiling than Risacher but a lower floor.

[Knoxxx]

I see Matas quite differently. He's #3 on my BB and #2 on my Spurs board. I think he has a real chance to be the best player in this draft. I see him as having a higher ceiling than Risacher but a lower floor.

Matas is polarizing, he is in contention for most polarizing, I'd rate him almost even with Topic in that regard and a little better than Holland. Matas is also the exact same height as Barlow, but with a shorter wingspan by 5 inches. I saw Barlow contesting Doncic, he was bothering him with that extra reach and does same to Durant.

Edit added: we need a roster of key role players that don't break the bank, and Barlow is showing that early potential so far.

[mo7888]

Matas is polarizing, he is in contention for most polarizing, I'd rate him almost even with Topic in that regard and a little better than Holland. Matas is also the exact same height as Barlow, but with a shorter wingspan by 5 inches. I saw Barlow contesting Doncic, he was bothering him with that extra reach and does same to Durant.

Edit added: we need a roster of key role players that don't break the bank, and Barlow is showing that early potential so far.

I'm not suggesting we drop Barlow. I'm just saying you don't pass over a player you like because of him. You draft your guy and let them compete.

Matas, Dilly, Topic, Castle, and Holland are all pretty polarizing. They could all bust, but any of them can pan out if they develop certain aspects to their game. I've got Matas at the top of that bunch because I think he's got the best chance of adding to his game. I'd have Topic there, or higher, if it weren't for the injury aspect of things right now. Next would be Castle because even if he never learns to shoot he'll have a role as a defender and connector on Offense.

[Silverheart80]

Fck it, trade 4 & 8 for 1 and get this guy! Lol jk would be bonkers if it happened.

You're not crazy. I've been saying this very thing since May 12th. Love that this thread has so few posts.

I hope everyone continues to believe Sarr is a lousy offensive player, and not a good fit next to VW. Keep thinking like that.

Go get him, PATFO.

[Thomas82]

You're not crazy. I've been saying this very thing since May 12th. Love that this thread has so few posts.

I hope everyone continues to believe Sarr is a lousy offensive player, and not a good fit next to VW. Keep thinking like that.

Go get him, PATFO.

I'm one of the very few people who wants to see him next to Wemby.

[Russ]

I'm one of the very few people who wants to see him next to Wemby.

There may be more than you think.

But the scenarios look difficult.

[Thomas82]

There may be more than you think.

But the scenarios look difficult.

Extremely difficult.

[rascal]

I'm one of the very few people who wants to see him next to Wemby.

I want

1. Sarr
2. Castle

Then I don't care who after those two.

[Thomas82]

I want

1. Sarr
2. Castle

Then I don't care who after those two.

I want one of them and Saluan, and then it doesn't matter to me either.

[$pursDynasty]

I'm one of the very few people who wants to see him next to Wemby.
me too I think it would rock especially if the team can convince Sarr to do the dirty work become Gobert/Draymond, primary focus is defense, rebounds and enforcing the toughness of the team.

[AFBlue]

If the Spurs move up to #1 as has been rumored, would Sarr actually be the guy instead of Risacher? Obviously you'd have to buy his offensive upside to pass on a clear need at Wing (3&D), but maybe the Spurs have him in a tier of his own.

Depending on what they'd have to give up, not sure how I'd feel about it.

[SpursDynasty85]

Would be great to get Sarr but at what price is always the question. Popovich loves 2 bigman line ups if it makes sense.

[$pursDynasty]

How in a draft without elite prospects can the price to move up 2-3 spots be that expensive? When there isn't a clear cut #1 prospect I would think teams would leap at the chance to trade down.

[Mr. Body]

How in a draft without elite prospects can the price to move up 2-3 spots be that expensive? When there isn't a clear cut #1 prospect I would think teams would leap at the chance to trade down.

It shouldn't be too expensive, other than the PR hit to that team's fanbase. Except effin Givony set the market by claiming the Spurs would trade 4 and 8 to go up to 2.

[Silverheart80]

I want

1. Sarr
2. Castle

Then I don't care who after those two.

Word.
This is the way.

[Silverheart80]

Would be great to get Sarr but at what price is always the question. Popovich loves 2 bigman line ups if it makes sense.

Agree. But when I look at Sarr and see the 56% on pull-up midrange shots, gazelle speed in transition, solid turnaround midrange jumper, good IQ as a cutter, and most of all, lockdown perimeter D when he's focused -- I don't see a bigman. I see a long, versatile wing in development. Everyone is knocking this guy's lack of three-point shot, but his midrange stroke looks smooth. I don't see Wemby and him as Twin Towers 2.0. I see a pterodactyl that would immediately improve the Spurs' perimeter D, and become a league-wide matchup nightmare with VW facilitating him.

Love that we're hearing zero media buzz regarding the Spurs and Sarr, and that so many are saying he's a wrong fit. Keep it going.

[couchman]

I agree that Sarr’s game looks more like wing than big at this point.
His ability to defend 2-4 looks really good.
He needs more strength to defend the 5.
On offense the midrange shot looks pure.
If he can move it out to the 3pt line he’ll be a really good pro.
I have Risacher, Sheppard, and Clingan ahead of Sarr right now because I think they contribute immediately but Sarr has more upside than almost anyone in this draft.

[rascal]

Package Atlanta 27, Keldon and 8 for 1 and draft Sarr.

Keep 4 and draft Castle. Come away from the draft with both Sarr and Castle.

[Russ]

Package Atlanta 27, Keldon and 8 for 1 and draft Sarr.

Keep 4 and draft Castle. Come away from the draft with both Sarr and Castle.

That might be nice. But if Atl won't do it, here's a slight variation.


Package Atlanta 27, Keldon and 4 for 1 and draft Sarr.

Keep 8 and draft Topic. Come away from the draft with both Sarr and Topic.

[rascal]

I want Castle instead of Topic.

[baseline bum]

Package Atlanta 27, Keldon and 8 for 1 and draft Sarr.

Keep 4 and draft Castle. Come away from the draft with both Sarr and Castle.

Keldon is replacement level, the Hawks would have no reason to do that trade.

[rascal]

Keldon is replacement level, the Hawks would have no reason to do that trade.

If Clingan fell to 8 then Atlanta may have interest in that deal and make the trade after the spurs draft Clingan. Word is Atlanta is showing interest in Clingan even at 1 but doubt they take him at 1.

[baseline bum]

If Clingan fell to 8 then Atlanta may have interest in that deal and make the trade after the spurs draft Clingan.

Would love it but the Hawks would have to throw in someone to match Keldon's salary, so it would have to be Capela or Okongwu, both of whom are more valuable players than Johnson. Scrap Keldon from the deal because it's negative value for Atlanta. Where I could see trading Keldon would be to Detroit to move up from 8 to 5 if Risacher and Castle are still on the board so they can take both. Detroit could pick up their option on Fournier for the matching salary for Keldon.

[BatManu20]

Washington is desperately hoping the Hawks take Risacher #1 tbh. They'd be all over Sarr at #2.

[exstatic]

Sarr’s not dropping to #4.

[Silverheart80]

Package Atlanta 27, Keldon and 8 for 1 and draft Sarr.

Keep 4 and draft Castle. Come away from the draft with both Sarr and Castle.

Sign me up for this.

I'll add one more thought. Although I think the Spurs' team defense would immediately improve with Keldon moving on, I'm inclined to agree with Baseline Bum above. And as I've said elsewhere, I think a true rebuild doesn't begin until Vassell is traded. Addition by subtraction because of his overall lack of chemistry with VW.

Package Atlanta 27, Vassell, and the 8 for the 1 and draft Sarr.

Keep the 4 and draft Castle.

Vassell graduated from Peachtree Ridge in Suwanee, GA -- suburb of Atlanta. Vassell returns home to play for his hometown team.

[rascal]

Sign me up for this.

I'll add one more thought. Although I think the Spurs' team defense would immediately improve with Keldon moving on, I'm inclined to agree with Baseline Bum above. And as I've said elsewhere, I think a true rebuild doesn't begin until Vassell is traded. Addition by subtraction because of his overall lack of chemistry with VW.

Package Atlanta 27, Vassell, and the 8 for the 1 and draft Sarr.

Keep the 4 and draft Castle.

Vassell graduated from Peachtree Ridge in Suwanee, GA -- suburb of Atlanta. Vassell returns home to play for his hometown team.

Yes, I like that trade.

[Mr. Body]

Sign me up for this.

I'll add one more thought. Although I think the Spurs' team defense would immediately improve with Keldon moving on, I'm inclined to agree with Baseline Bum above. And as I've said elsewhere, I think a true rebuild doesn't begin until Vassell is traded. Addition by subtraction because of his overall lack of chemistry with VW.

Package Atlanta 27, Vassell, and the 8 for the 1 and draft Sarr.

Keep the 4 and draft Castle.

Vassell graduated from Peachtree Ridge in Suwanee, GA -- suburb of Atlanta. Vassell returns home to play for his hometown team.

A truly shitty take in every way.. Congrats on that one.

[SpursFan86]

Are you guys high? Vassell, an unprotected ATL 2027 first, and #8 for Sarr? :lmao

[rascal]

Are you guys high? Vassell, an unprotected ATL 2027 first, and #8 for Sarr? :lmao

Yep

I'd do it. I'm willing to move off everyone on the Spurs except Wemby. A complete over haul of the team is needed. Will find a better SG in the 25 draft than Vassell.

[Silverheart80]

Yep

I'd do it. I'm willing to move off everyone on the Spurs except Wemby. A complete over haul of the team is needed. Will find a better SG in the 25 draft than Vassell.

Agree on all of this.

The more Dilly, Sheppard, Risacher, Cody Williams, Salaun, Clingan smoke there is 'til next Wednesday -- the better. Love fans and media dismissing Sarr. Keep it going.

[Pauleta14]

Sign me up for this.

I'll add one more thought. Although I think the Spurs' team defense would immediately improve with Keldon moving on, I'm inclined to agree with Baseline Bum above. And as I've said elsewhere, I think a true rebuild doesn't begin until Vassell is traded. Addition by subtraction because of his overall lack of chemistry with VW.

Package Atlanta 27, Vassell, and the 8 for the 1 and draft Sarr.

Keep the 4 and draft Castle.

Vassell graduated from Peachtree Ridge in Suwanee, GA -- suburb of Atlanta. Vassell returns home to play for his hometown team.

I've been one of the main Vassell critic but this is an insane disrespect/under valuation...

Vassell is a bit overpaid bc Spurs had to but he's an elite shooter that had a decent season and has gotten a lot better after ASG at finding Wemby. So much so that he became his main assist partner, passing Tre.

He's also said his focus this summer will be working on his playmaking.

He's worth more than the 1st itself and you want to add ATL 27 and 8??? :lol

Draft day can't come fast enough lmao some are loosing their mind

[Ariel]

Sign me up for this.

I'll add one more thought. Although I think the Spurs' team defense would immediately improve with Keldon moving on, I'm inclined to agree with Baseline Bum above. And as I've said elsewhere, I think a true rebuild doesn't begin until Vassell is traded. Addition by subtraction because of his overall lack of chemistry with VW.

Package Atlanta 27, Vassell, and the 8 for the 1 and draft Sarr.

Keep the 4 and draft Castle.

Vassell graduated from Peachtree Ridge in Suwanee, GA -- suburb of Atlanta. Vassell returns home to play for his hometown team.
Yeah, surround Wemby with Sarr, Sochan and Castle. That sounds like a sure fire recipe for success.
Wemby every second of every game:
https://i.postimg.cc/RZVb6J3K/jordan.jpg

[mo7888]

The draft can't come quick enough to end this insanity...or at least direct it in a different direction..

[Mr. Body]

The draft can't come quick enough to end this insanity...or at least direct it in a different direction..

Seriously. It's just crazy. But then the summer is going to be people insisting we use capital to sign Tyus Jones who is almost the exact same player we have in Tre Jones. Make it make sense.

[rascal]

Yeah, surround Wemby with Sarr, Sochan and Castle. That sounds like a sure fire recipe for success.
Wemby every second of every game:
https://i.postimg.cc/RZVb6J3K/jordan.jpg

No, get rid of Sochan

[Ignazzz]

Sign me up for this.

I'll add one more thought. Although I think the Spurs' team defense would immediately improve with Keldon moving on, I'm inclined to agree with Baseline Bum above. And as I've said elsewhere, I think a true rebuild doesn't begin until Vassell is traded. Addition by subtraction because of his overall lack of chemistry with VW.

Package Atlanta 27, Vassell, and the 8 for the 1 and draft Sarr.

Keep the 4 and draft Castle.

Vassell graduated from Peachtree Ridge in Suwanee, GA -- suburb of Atlanta. Vassell returns home to play for his hometown team.

sick people

[mo7888]

Seriously. It's just crazy. But then the summer is going to be people insisting we use capital to sign Tyus Jones who is almost the exact same player we have in Tre Jones. Make it make sense.

It won't make sense, but at least the crazy will be focused at something new for a while...

[djohn2oo8]

Lmao if Sarr falls to 3

[scottspurs]

Lmao if Sarr falls to 3
It’s becoming a real possibility

[SpursDynasty85]

Lmao if Sarr falls to 3

Houston would gulp him up. Sengun and Him sound like a great pairing.

[Mr. Body]

Houston would gulp him up. Sengun and Him sound like a great pairing.

I'm not sure. Jabari does the same things probably better. I don't see the development path for Sarr on Houston.

[SpursDynasty85]

I'm not sure. Jabari does the same things probably better. I don't see the development path for Sarr on Houston.

Houston could theoretically play Green, Thompson, Jabari, Sengun, and Sarr. They need a defensive center. They do need shooting so Reed and Kinect make sense too but Sarr is a much better prospect than both of them. Would be a very controversial pick to pass up Sarr, but I do see your point if they really like someone like Reed or Castle too.

[poopbox]

Houston could theoretically play Green, Thompson, Jabari, Sengun, and Sarr. They need a defensive center. They do need shooting so Reed and Kinect make sense too but Sarr is a much better prospect than both of them. Would be a very controversial pick to pass up Sarr, but I do see your point if they really like someone like Reed or Castle too.

No way Jabari or Sarr could play the 3.

They also have to somehow find minutes for or get rid of some combination Amen, Tari, Cam, and Tate

[BatManu20]

ATL might just take Sarr regardless of the fact that he won't work out for them. If they think he's the best player in the draft with the highest upside, there's a good chance they just take him anyways imo.

[DPG21920]

Please let Sarr fall to 3 and guarantee spurs have a shot at Reed, Sarr or Castle. Then trade up with DET and get a 2nd one from that group

[LakerHater]

I hope Sarr dont fall to Hou!

[T Park]

Yep

I'd do it. I'm willing to move off everyone on the Spurs except Wemby. A complete over haul of the team is needed. Will find a better SG in the 25 draft than Vassell.


That’s absolutely insane

[SpursDynasty85]

No way Jabari or Sarr could play the 3.

They also have to somehow find minutes for or get rid of some combination Amen, Tari, Cam, and Tate

Jabari Smith is a SF/PF. It’s even in his draft profile from only two years ago. Also Amen Thompson, unless they get a new PG, is rumored to play that role for the team to free up Jalen Green. Finding
minutes or trading away assets because of it, is usually a good problem to have.

[Dejounte]

Jabari Smith is a SF/PF. It’s even in his draft profile from only two years ago. Also Amen Thompson, unless they get a new PG, is rumored to play that role for the team to free up Jalen Green. Finding
minutes or trading away assets because of it, is usually a good problem to have.

Draft profiles aren’t reliable. Plenty of times players play a different position in the NBA once their limitations are discovered. Case in point, Zach Collins.

[JuneJive]

If by any chance he"s still there @4; do the Spurs take him?

[BatManu20]

Yep

I'd do it. I'm willing to move off everyone on the Spurs except Wemby. A complete over haul of the team is needed. Will find a better SG in the 25 draft than Vassell.

Spurs aren't trading their potential future All-Star SG and Wemby's best friend on the team PLUS multiple FRP's for a largely unproven commodity in Sarr :lol

[SpursDynasty85]

If by any chance he"s still there @4; do the Spurs take him?

Without Question! Spurs want two mobile centers on the floor so Wemby can play the defense on the perimeter and be the stop gap for transition D. You also have to consider Spurs will have to go through Jokic and the Timberwolves Towers. Sarr to me is the best prospect in this draft with the highest upside. I'm thinking Atlanta takes him and then searches for trade partners for Clingan. Houston might gobble up Clingan because of this.

[Mr. Body]

If by any chance he"s still there @4; do the Spurs take him?

Either take him or use him in trade, although I don't know who that team would be. And if a team wants him, the Rockets would take advantage first.

[exstatic]

Houston could theoretically play Green, Thompson, Jabari, Sengun, and Sarr. They need a defensive center. They do need shooting so Reed and Kinect make sense too but Sarr is a much better prospect than both of them. Would be a very controversial pick to pass up Sarr, but I do see your point if they really like someone like Reed or Castle too.

Jabari failed utterly in handle and passing in his Orlando workouts, leading to them selecting Banchero. You’d have two big guys in that lineup who can’t handle or pass.

[exstatic]

Jabari Smith is a SF/PF. It’s even in his draft profile from only two years ago. Also Amen Thompson, unless they get a new PG, is rumored to play that role for the team to free up Jalen Green. Finding
minutes or trading away assets because of it, is usually a good problem to have.

As I already directly responded to you, his Orlando workout was a handle/passing disaster, leading them to select Banchero. He’s not a wing, but he is nearly a perfect modern PF.

[SpursDynasty85]

As I already directly responded to you, his Orlando workout was a handle/passing disaster, leading them to select Banchero. He’s not a wing, but he is nearly a perfect modern PF.

I didn't say he was an ideal SF. But he can play and guard at that position, just like Sarr can play and guard at the PF. Today's PF is yesteryear's traditional SF. He can do dribble drive and kickouts, can shoot the 3 well, and is long and athletic enough to defend decently in the perimeter. You have Green and Thompson as good handlers and playmakers, not to mention Sengun is a decent ball handler and playmaker. I understand your point but the upside of that lineup is something you just dismiss out right.

[spurraider21]

Yep

I'd do it. I'm willing to move off everyone on the Spurs except Wemby. A complete over haul of the team is needed. Will find a better SG in the 25 draft than Vassell.
:lmao

[spurraider21]

Sarr's best landing spot is Washington since he has the freedom there to fuck around and figure things out through trial and error, and will have a long leash because that team has no bigs and no direction anyway.

Apparently the reason he's made himself unavailable to the Hawks is that he sees himself as a 4, not a 5, and the Hawks already have Jalen Johnson in place there. He doesnt see himself as a Capela replacement. Sounds a lot like Castle with the whole "hes not working out for teams with point guards in place" stuff.

While Sarr's outside shot isn't there yet, its not a stretch that he'll become at least the shooter Sochan is, if thats a level of shooting we are content with at the 4. While the short term fit isnt clear just yet, he's still very much worth taking a bet on at #4 if other targets like Sheppard are already gone

[z0sa]

Sarr vs Risacher, I take Risacher. Sarr versus anyone else, I'd take Sarr.

Sochan moves to the bench (or the 3) in that case, which would probably be good for his development.

[Mr. Body]

Word is that no other team scouted Sarr more than Washington. The mockers suggesting interest elsewhere (read: Castle) are probably just trying things out.

I see it right now as:

Clingan
Sarr
??
??

With Houston presumably going for Sheppard. If Charlotte trades up, I think they still want Sheppard. This leaves the big question of the day whether the Spurs actually like Risacher or if they'd go Castle.

[poopbox]

Without Question! Spurs want two mobile centers on the floor so Wemby can play the defense on the perimeter and be the stop gap for transition D. You also have to consider Spurs will have to go through Jokic and the Timberwolves Towers. Sarr to me is the best prospect in this draft with the highest upside. I'm thinking Atlanta takes him and then searches for trade partners for Clingan. Houston might gobble up Clingan because of this.

His agent has spent all week trying to burn the bridge to Atlanta down before they can build it so I'd be surprised if they draft him.

He has the same agent Luka did when he was drafted, who also steered him away from Atlanta for whatever reason

[Mr. Body]

His agent has spent all week trying to burn the bridge to Atlanta down before they can build it so I'd be surprised if they draft him.

He has the same agent Luka did when he was drafted, who also steered him away from Atlanta for whatever reason

Atlanta is an awful place to live and has an even shittier fanbase.

[scott]

Hey guys how about Wemby + 4 + 8 + ATL 25 + ATL27 + all of our Larry OBrien trophies to WAS so that we can take Sarr?

Who besides rascal says yes?

[baseline bum]

Sarr's best landing spot is Washington since he has the freedom there to fuck around and figure things out through trial and error, and will have a long leash because that team has no bigs and no direction anyway.

Apparently the reason he's made himself unavailable to the Hawks is that he sees himself as a 4, not a 5, and the Hawks already have Jalen Johnson in place there. He doesnt see himself as a Capela replacement. Sounds a lot like Castle with the whole "hes not working out for teams with point guards in place" stuff.

While Sarr's outside shot isn't there yet, its not a stretch that he'll become at least the shooter Sochan is, if thats a level of shooting we are content with at the 4. While the short term fit isnt clear just yet, he's still very much worth taking a bet on at #4 if other targets like Sheppard are already gone

Become at least the shooter Sochan is is a pretty lowly goal for a guy you might draft #1 :lol

[baseline bum]

Hey guys how about Wemby + 4 + 8 + ATL 25 + ATL27 + all of our Larry OBrien trophies to WAS so that we can take Sarr?

Who besides rascal says yes?

Should probably include Vassell too

[scott]

Should probably include Vassell too

Need to hold on to Vassell so I can trade him for pick #49 and take Cam Spencer (after I’ve sold #35 and #48 for Cash Considerations)

[spurraider21]

Become at least the shooter Sochan is is a pretty lowly goal for a guy you might draft #1 :lol
for the record i think he almost certainly winds up a better shooter than sochan, but it takes some projection

[SpursDynasty85]

His agent has spent all week trying to burn the bridge to Atlanta down before they can build it so I'd be surprised if they draft him.

He has the same agent Luka did when he was drafted, who also steered him away from Atlanta for whatever reason

interesting. I always wondered why Atlanta wanted Trae over Luka. Thanks for the insight. Looks like Atlanta can do the same thing or could trying to be publicly stating they are looking at Clingan and obviously Sarr is for sale now. Would love if they drafted Sarr and Spurs picked up Clingan so they could trade with each other. I can see a lot of teams wanting to trade up for Sarr.

[poopbox]

Sarr's best landing spot is Washington since he has the freedom there to fuck around and figure things out through trial and error, and will have a long leash because that team has no bigs and no direction anyway.

Apparently the reason he's made himself unavailable to the Hawks is that he sees himself as a 4, not a 5, and the Hawks already have Jalen Johnson in place there. He doesnt see himself as a Capela replacement. Sounds a lot like Castle with the whole "hes not working out for teams with point guards in place" stuff.

While Sarr's outside shot isn't there yet, its not a stretch that he'll become at least the shooter Sochan is, if thats a level of shooting we are content with at the 4. While the short term fit isnt clear just yet, he's still very much worth taking a bet on at #4 if other targets like Sheppard are already gone

I actually think his best landing spot is with the Spurs and he and/or his agent is trying to angle him here. He would walk in the starting 4 over Jeremy and be playing next to a another French player spoon feeding him shots. Sarr and Wemby are a no brainer pairing on both sides of the ball.

I think the primary problem he sees in Atlanta is they are in "win now" mode which for rookies means set screens crash the boards catch lobs and get yelled at by veterans. Similar to what the Warriors did to Wiseman and what the Suns semi did to Ayton.

[spurraider21]

I actually think his best landing spot is with the Spurs and he and/or his agent is trying to angle him here. He would walk in the starting 4 over Jeremy and be playing next to a another French player spoon feeding him shots. Sarr and Wemby are a no brainer pairing on both sides of the ball.

I think the primary problem he sees in Atlanta is they are in "win now" mode which for rookies means set screens crash the boards catch lobs and get yelled at by veterans. Similar to what the Warriors did to Wiseman and what the Suns semi did to Ayton.
i dont think sarr would start over sochan right away. right now he'd be an even worse floor spacer than sochan because he's not as comfortable a ballhandler or passer, nor is he any better as a shooter.

but a good rim protector with defensive range off the bench who could eventually develop enough of a perimeter game to play alongside wemby would be something

[poopbox]

i dont think sarr would start over sochan right away. right now he'd be an even worse floor spacer than sochan because he's not as comfortable a ballhandler or passer, nor is he any better as a shooter.

but a good rim protector with defensive range off the bench who could eventually develop enough of a perimeter game to play alongside wemby would be something

I'd be disappointed if he didn't start over Jeremy right away, but if you've seen any of my post, I'm not really a fan of Jeremy, which is why I would want Sarr as the pick. I don't think Jeremy has any upside to his game as a tweener forward who doesn't really do anything that impacts winning, where I think Sarr has enough of an offensive game that I think he could develop into a decent offensive player. And playing next to Victor we just need him to be decent. I also like some 4 and 5 pick and roll action because most teams defend it horribly, it would be something unique to the Spurs that over time would give them an advantage over most teams.

[SpursDynasty85]

I'd be disappointed if he didn't start over Jeremy right away, but if you've seen any of my post, I'm not really a fan of Jeremy, which is why I would want Sarr as the pick. I don't think Jeremy has any upside to his game as a tweener forward who doesn't really do anything that impacts winning, where I think Sarr has enough of an offensive game that I think he could develop into a decent offensive player. And playing next to Victor we just need him to be decent. I also like some 4 and 5 pick and roll action because most teams defend it horribly, it would be something unique to the Spurs that over time would give them an advantage over most teams.

Yup. Sarr was pretty much a lock for number one across most draft boards until they started snubbing Atlanta and pushing into Washington. Rarely does a no.1 pick get benched his first year.

[Wilt Chamberlain]

Sarr's best landing spot is Washington since he has the freedom there to fuck around and figure things out through trial and error, and will have a long leash because that team has no bigs and no direction anyway.

Apparently the reason he's made himself unavailable to the Hawks is that he sees himself as a 4, not a 5, and the Hawks already have Jalen Johnson in place there. He doesnt see himself as a Capela replacement. Sounds a lot like Castle with the whole "hes not working out for teams with point guards in place" stuff.

While Sarr's outside shot isn't there yet, its not a stretch that he'll become at least the shooter Sochan is, if thats a level of shooting we are content with at the 4. While the short term fit isnt clear just yet, he's still very much worth taking a bet on at #4 if other targets like Sheppard are already gone

It's not like the Spurs are an established squad that are not going to be going through a lot of trial and error trying to figure out how to compete and win games.

At least in SA, he would not have the expectations because of Wemby as opposed to a squad that had no one worth a shit.

[CGD]

Word is that no other team scouted Sarr more than Washington. The mockers suggesting interest elsewhere (read: Castle) are probably just trying things out.

I see it right now as:

Clingan
Sarr
??
??

With Houston presumably going for Sheppard. If Charlotte trades up, I think they still want Sheppard. This leaves the big question of the day whether the Spurs actually like Risacher or if they'd go Castle.

DET has been hot for ZR, but him dropping to 5 was the challenge there. At a minimum, if Zar is there at 4, I hope the Spurs extract an asset from DET to swap picks.

[Raven]

I'd be disappointed if he didn't start over Jeremy right away, but if you've seen any of my post, I'm not really a fan of Jeremy, which is why I would want Sarr as the pick. I don't think Jeremy has any upside to his game as a tweener forward who doesn't really do anything that impacts winning, where I think Sarr has enough of an offensive game that I think he could develop into a decent offensive player. And playing next to Victor we just need him to be decent. I also like some 4 and 5 pick and roll action because most teams defend it horribly, it would be something unique to the Spurs that over time would give them an advantage over most teams.

i actually think it is preposterous to think any rookie would start over sochan. I mean the guy is at the start of a breakout and has clearly grown to be our primary on ball defender.

[Mr. Body]

i actually think it is preposterous to think any rookie would start over sochan. I mean the guy is at the start of a breakout and has clearly grown to be our primary on ball defender.

Sarr didn't even start for his NBL team, a league way behind the NBA. He has a long way to go before he can become a full time starter even at the level of Sochan. People just wayside clips packages and make assumptions about players only from those videos.

[rascal]

Sarr didn't even start for his NBL team, a league way behind the NBA. He has a long way to go before he can become a full time starter even at the level of Sochan. People just wayside clips packages and make assumptions about players only from those videos.

Sarr has more physical tools to work with than Sochan so more upside. You think Sochan would be considered for the top pick in this draft?

[z0sa]

Sarr didn't even start for his NBL team, a league way behind the NBA. He has a long way to go before he can become a full time starter even at the level of Sochan. People just wayside clips packages and make assumptions about players only from those videos.

Sochan averaged all of 12/3ast/6reb on a whopping 43.8% FG percentage, 30% on 3s. Opponents actually shot higher on 2pters when he was on the floor (source (https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos/nba?TeamId=1610612759&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&PlayerIds=1631110&OnlyCommonGames=true)). Their 3PT percentage did drop from 40 to 37 with him on, but it's not like that's all his doing considering he plays the 4.

His assist rate is also definitely inflated by his time at PG, which was a massive failure as we all know, so one can assume he won't top that mark again next season.

Nice try acting like last season didn't happen, but it did, and Sochan wasn't good. He's replaceable, including by one of our draft picks. Perhaps Sarr doesn't get the gig at the very beginning, only because it's Pop, not because Sochan is this irreplaceable starter.

[Mr. Body]

Sarr has more physical tools to work with than Sochan so more upside. You think Sochan would be considered for the top pick in this draft?

What does that have to do with what I said?

[Raven]

Sochan averaged all of 12/3ast/6reb on a whopping 43.8% FG percentage, 30% on 3s. Opponents actually shot higher on 2pters when he was on the floor (source (https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos/nba?TeamId=1610612759&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&PlayerIds=1631110&OnlyCommonGames=true)). Their 3PT percentage did drop from 40 to 37 with him on, but it's not like that's all his doing considering he plays the 4.

His assist rate is also definitely inflated by his time at PG, which was a massive failure as we all know, so one can assume he won't top that mark again next season.

Nice try acting like last season didn't happen, but it did, and Sochan wasn't good. He's replaceable, including by one of our draft picks. Perhaps Sarr doesn't get the gig at the very beginning, only because it's Pop, not because Sochan is this irreplaceable starter.

you should re-check your theories on a post all star basis.

[Mr. Body]

Sochan averaged all of 12/3ast/6reb on a whopping 43.8% FG percentage, 30% on 3s. Opponents actually shot higher on 2pters when he was on the floor (source (https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos/nba?TeamId=1610612759&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&PlayerIds=1631110&OnlyCommonGames=true)). Their 3PT percentage did drop from 40 to 37 with him on, but it's not like that's all his doing considering he plays the 4.

His assist rate is also definitely inflated by his time at PG, which was a massive failure as we all know, so one can assume he won't top that mark again next season.

Nice try acting like last season didn't happen, but it did, and Sochan wasn't good. He's replaceable, including by one of our draft picks. Perhaps Sarr doesn't get the gig at the very beginning, only because it's Pop, not because Sochan is this irreplaceable starter.

I don't know why reading comprehension here is so fucking miserable:

SARR DID NOT START ON A TEAM IN A POOR LEAGUE. HE PLAYED 18 MINUTES A GAME.

YOU ARE COMPARING HIM TO A STARTER IN THE FUCKING NBA.

Sarr is not ready to start consistently on an NBA team right now. A major reason why he wants to go to Washington. Comparing players who have never played in the NBA to players who are establishing themselves is senseless, a complete and utter fallacy of logic. You are not comparing like to like.

[z0sa]

Sarr has more physical tools to work with than Sochan so more upside. You think Sochan would be considered for the top pick in this draft?

More or less spot on. Why gimp Sarr's development for fucking Sochan? He's had his shot now, he's entering his 3rd year. He's young but he's also not projecting to be much better than he currently is. Sarr has the capability of being a 20 point scorer, and his release while far from flawless is waaaaay smoother than Sochan's. He's also much more naturally talented in terms of his height, shot blocking, and offensive game in general. He'll have more rough edges from inexperience and age than Sochan, sure. But acting like Sochan should just hold on to his spot when the potential for Sarr is at least at the moment, much higher would be more foolishness.

[z0sa]

I don't know why reading comprehension here is so fucking miserable:

SARR DID NOT START ON A TEAM IN A POOR LEAGUE. HE PLAYED 18 MINUTES A GAME.

YOU ARE COMPARING HIM TO A STARTER IN THE FUCKING NBA.

Sarr is not ready to start consistently on an NBA team right now. A major reason why he wants to go to Washington. Comparing players who have never played in the NBA to players who are establishing themselves is senseless, a complete and utter fallacy of logic. You are not comparing like to like.

:lol acting like comparing potential #1 draft picks to NBA starters is lunacy
:lol more strawmen because I didn't even compare Sarr and Sochan directly in this post. I simply pointed out how mid (or worse) Sochan was.

[z0sa]

you should re-check your theories on a post all star basis.

So you don't have any comment about Sochan's last season, either. He was mid, bro. If that, on one of the worst teams in the league. Of course, I'd love Sochan to get better. Perhaps someone like Sarr competing with him for minutes would raise his game?

[Raven]

So you don't have any comment about Sochan's last season, either. He was mid, bro. If that, on one of the worst teams in the league. Of course, I'd love Sochan to get better. Perhaps someone like Sarr competing with him for minutes would raise his game?

why would i comment on his season when we were hardly a team trying to win... it was development first, second and third.

[Mr. Body]

People still slagging Sochan like he asked to play out of position.

I look forward to this lunatic fanbase relentlessly slagging on whoever we draft this year. "Oh, fucking Sarr, worst player ever why the fuck akjkjhaglkdjagkjgejegjhopihgohp"

Most of this fanbase is completely useless.

[Mr. Body]

Sarr not on the Spurs: hits every three he's ever taken, makes immaculate rotations, a golden God who makes women weep

Sarr on the Spurs: what the fuck this guy sucks so much

[NASpurs]

People still slagging Sochan like he asked to play out of position.

I look forward to this lunatic fanbase relentlessly slagging on whoever we draft this year. "Oh, fucking Sarr, worst player ever why the fuck akjkjhaglkdjagkjgejegjhopihgohp"

Most of this fanbase is completely useless.

What a crying faggot :lol

[z0sa]

why would i comment on his season when we were hardly a team trying to win... it was development first, second and third.

Not according to Pop or the players.

Sochan "developed" into a 12pt scorer in his 2nd season whose team's opponents scored 3% better when he was on the court. You have no comment on this and how it affects drafting a possible 4 with defensive upside in Sarr? Okay.

[rascal]

People still slagging Sochan like he asked to play out of position.

I look forward to this lunatic fanbase relentlessly slagging on whoever we draft this year. "Oh, fucking Sarr, worst player ever why the fuck akjkjhaglkdjagkjgejegjhopihgohp"

Most of this fanbase is completely useless.

Lame excuse

He played out of position a grand total of 18 games and had some of his worst play in the months after he moved back to PF.

[TD 21]

Jabari Smith is a SF/PF. It’s even in his draft profile from only two years ago. Also Amen Thompson, unless they get a new PG, is rumored to play that role for the team to free up Jalen Green. Finding
minutes or trading away assets because of it, is usually a good problem to have.

No, Smith is a PF/small ball C. Forget the foolish listing (I don't know why this continues to happen in this sport).



Not according to Pop or the players.

Sochan "developed" into a 12pt scorer in his 2nd season whose team's opponents scored 3% better when he was on the court. You have no comment on this and how it affects drafting a possible 4 with defensive upside in Sarr? Okay.

I'm with you on the Sochan criticism, but despite some typically incorrect listings, Sarr is not a 4.

It doesn't matter how physically weak or poor a defensive rebounder he is, his shot is theoretical and his handle is good for a big (not a big wing, which is what the 4 now is).

[rascal]

Not according to Pop or the players.

Sochan "developed" into a 12pt scorer in his 2nd season whose team's opponents scored 3% better when he was on the court. You have no comment on this and how it affects drafting a possible 4 with defensive upside in Sarr? Okay.

Sochan's stas are almost identical from year 1 to year 2 so little to no improvement

His scoring increased by .6 from 11.0 to 11.6 with an increase of 3.6 minutes per game so really his scoring decreased in year two.

[SpursDynasty85]

If we can somehow land Sarr then picking up Dillingham would be a no brainer. Dillingham, Vassel, Keldon, Sarr, Wemby.

[z0sa]

No, Smith is a PF/small ball C. Forget the foolish listing (I don't know why this continues to happen in this sport).




I'm with you on the Sochan criticism, but despite some typically incorrect listings, Sarr is not a 4.

It doesn't matter how physically weak or poor a defensive rebounder he is, his shot is theoretical and his handle is good for a big (not a big wing, which is what the 4 now is).

Yeah, his natural position appears to be a 5. Just theorycrafting if we did draft him, he'd have to slide to the 4 or lose a lot of minutes. Wemby should average 32+ next season, I don't see him being a purely back up to Wemby (or at least, agreeing to it whole-heartedly if the Spurs discuss it with him). Unlike Sochan, there's plenty of teams looking to pick Sarr up and make him a large part of the rotation. He's not who I'd want, just to be clear -- I'll go with Risacher who fits this team like a glove on paper.

[TD 21]

Sochan's stas are almost identical from year 1 to year 2 so little to no improvement

His scoring increased by .6 from 11.0 to 11.6 with an increase of 3.6 minutes per game so really his scoring decreased in year two.

To be fair, his usage rate went from 19.8% to 18.8%.


Yeah, his natural position appears to be a 5. Just theorycrafting if we did draft him, he'd have to slide to the 4 or lose a lot of minutes. Wemby should average 32+ next season, I don't see him being a purely back up to Wemby (or at least, agreeing to it whole-heartedly if the Spurs discuss it with him). Unlike Sochan, there's plenty of teams looking to pick Sarr up and make him a large part of the rotation. He's not who I'd want, just to be clear -- I'll go with Risacher who fits this team like a glove on paper.

I'd still consider him more so the 5 because he'd probably be utilized mostly as a rim runner/in the dunker spot and as the primary defender on overpowering 5's.

[z0sa]

Sochan's stas are almost identical from year 1 to year 2 so little to no improvement

His scoring increased by .6 from 11.0 to 11.6 with an increase of 3.6 minutes per game so really his scoring decreased in year two.

Damn, so he basically didn't develop at all. IMHO, he's just not a good fit with Wemby. Unfortunately, Sarr would likely have similar troubles - I just think Sarr has enough upside both defensively to outweigh some of his shooting woes and on his shot mechanics to actually become passable as a shooter.

He shot 50% in the mid-range (admittedly on limited attempts, 1/2 per), but it's worth at least noting. Sochan has essentially no mid-range game at all as of last season.

There's every reason to believe he can improve his shooting. Sochan did, and they're approximately the same though obviously the leagues are different.

I dunno why this is even that controversial, though. If we draft Sarr, we're not getting Risacher. Sochan can move to the 3 and still start and get big minutes, guard the opposing best player, et cetera. I really don't get how people think this is somehow shitting on Sochan.

[TD 21]

Sochan at the 3 with Sarr are the 4 would be absurd and completely out of touch with the modern NBA.

This team needs significantly more shooting and play making, not less.

[spurraider21]

Sochan at the 3 with Sarr are the 4 would be absurd and completely out of touch with the modern NBA.

This team needs significantly more shooting and play making, not less.
if we take Sarr and he becomes a good enough shooter to stick at the 4, sochan becomes a versatile bench player

[rascal]

if we take Sarr and he becomes a good enough shooter to stick at the 4, sochan becomes a versatile bench player

This

Sochan goes to the bench with a Sarr addition

Spurs are still not finished yet with the team build and will need to find a high volume scoring SF. In next year's draft they add this player.

[mo7888]

if we take Sarr and he becomes a good enough shooter to stick at the 4, sochan becomes a versatile bench player

If we take Sarr then Sochan gets moved in a trade. I gotta say though, I've never been high on Sochan. I've advocated moving him to indy for Jarace Walker last draft, but some of the takes about the guy are ridiculous. He's not so good that you avoid drafting someone who plays his position, but he's not trash you try and dump either.

[LeBowen]

I'd pick Sarr if he's there at #4, but I would most definitely not start him right away.
Wemby will probably play 30-32mpg, Sarr as his backup would guarantee 48mpg of elite rim protection and they could share the floor for 8-10 minutes.
Two of Wemby-Sochan-Sarr always on the floor, but never all three together.

Move Sarr to the starting lineup when he develops his shot.
If he doesn't, but is too good to be a backup big, trade him and get a better fit.
Kind of Fox-Haliburton situation.

[TD 21]

if we take Sarr and he becomes a good enough shooter to stick at the 4, sochan becomes a versatile bench player

This is all moot because I don't see it for a second, but: Sochan gets traded and whoever the third big in his stead is, it has to be a "laser" like stretch four.

Play the Eiffel Towers together for approximately the first 6 minutes of each half, then alternate them as the sole big, with Wembanyama the only one guaranteed to close.

[Raven]

Not according to Pop or the players.

Sochan "developed" into a 12pt scorer in his 2nd season whose team's opponents scored 3% better when he was on the court. You have no comment on this and how it affects drafting a possible 4 with defensive upside in Sarr? Okay.

i am for drafting sarr, but i don't have to comment on sochan's season to do that. Sochan is number 3 in the franchise, and he's the most versatile defensively. He'll find a spot in the starting lineup no matter who we draft.

[AFBlue]

IMO, the case for Sarr is very similar to the case for Castle. Both need a jump shot to reach their full potential, but they also have a high defensive floor with positional versatility. Not that Sarr will slip to #4, but that would be an interesting choice if it happened. In that case I'd probably go Sarr for the size.

[TD 21]

IMO, the case for Sarr is very similar to the case for Castle. Both need a jump shot to reach their full potential, but they also have a high defensive floor with positional versatility. Not that Sarr will slip to #4, but that would be an interesting choice if it happened. In that case I'd probably go Sarr for the size.

Sarr doesn't have positional versatility and the difference between them is, if Sarr's theoretical offensive skills never become a reality, he can still be a good, versatile defensive anchor and play a low usage/high efficiency style, where he rim runs, plays out of the dunker spot and vertical spaces for lobs (opening up weakside corner 3's).

If, as expected, Castle is neither a primary creator or spacer, then he'll need to play alongside 4 shooters, so he can function as a small ball big offensively . . . and if his team doesn't have that, then he better be damn good at virtually everything else for them to go through the trouble to make him more than a bit player.

[$pursDynasty]

If we can somehow land Sarr then picking up Dillingham would be a no brainer. Dillingham, Vassel, Keldon, Sarr, Wemby.
on this my fellow Dynasty I completly agree

[Raven]

If we can somehow land Sarr then picking up Dillingham would be a no brainer. Dillingham, Vassel, Keldon, Sarr, Wemby.

so you combine awful perimeter D with amazing rim protection... damn, that's a hard nut to crack..

[SpursDynasty85]

so you combine awful perimeter D with amazing rim protection... damn, that's a hard nut to crack..

Wemby and Sarr actually have great perimeter D in a vacuum. When you got both covering you, the perimeter players job will be to suck them into the 3 point line where the long arms of Sarr and Wemby will cause havoc. It would be a more devastating defense than Tim Duncan and Drob because DRob was old and Td was slower than both these guys. Eiffel Towers would beat the Twin Towers because they are entering the league together.

[The Truth #6]

Some picks will need more time than others to develop. I sense that Sarr will need a lot of work being young. Bigs seem to need more development time as well (just my opinion). I don't see Sarr contributing much next year. If taking a long road, then that's probably okay. But I think I would prefer a player who can contribute a little bit earlier.

[rascal]

Sarr would be great on the Spurs but unfortunately he won't be available at 4.

[scott]

If we take Sarr then Sochan gets moved in a trade. I gotta say though, I've never been high on Sochan. I've advocated moving him to indy for Jarace Walker last draft, but some of the takes about the guy are ridiculous. He's not so good that you avoid drafting someone who plays his position, but he's not trash you try and dump either.

Spot on. People here are so triggered or defensive about Sochan. He's mid, but that's okay. Yeah, you hope lottery picks show out a little more - but Sochan isn't a complete bust. He's also not some budding superstar either.

For that reason, Sochan shouldn't enter one's mind at all when thinking about this draft. If the clear cut best player at 4 is a PF, then you take him. And if a PF is worth taking at 4, then yeah - you should expect that he can beat out Jeremy Sochan for a starting role. If he can't... then you shouldn't have taken him at 4.

The only players on this team who should have any impact or consideration on this draft are Wemby and Vassell.

[Kevin]

If Sarr can just hit his three's he would be a 3 & D PF from hell. Usually you would want far more in a first overall pick but in such a bad class Sarr should go first. If the Spurs somehow land him I wouldn't be mad. It would be a risky pick but so is every pick this year.

[spurraider21]

If Sarr can just hit his three's he would be a 3 & D PF from hell. Usually you would want far more in a first overall pick but in such a bad class Sarr should go first. If the Spurs somehow land him I wouldn't be mad. It would be a risky pick but so is every pick this year.
3&D implies 3 point shooting being his main value on offense. i dont think he's going to get to that level. rather i think he just needs to get it to be good enough to force closeouts. his stroke isn't as smooth as wemby's was coming in, but its definitely more workable than sochan's.

i kind of see Sarr's potential as an upgraded version of sochan. he's more of a threat when attacking the basket due to his superior length and athleticism, which will collapse defenses more than it ever does for sochan. i think sarr's passing is similar to risacher. i think they're both solid passers who right now arent able to move the defense to create those openings. while risacher would have to vastly improve his ballhandling to get to that point, sarr just having a size advantage over just about every 4 is going to being creating openings when he improves his finishing, or when he sets better screens to handle short roll situations.

and defensively... his upside is pretty insane. i think he's better suited as a 4 than a 5 anyway. he's way more comfortable defending on the perimeter than wemby looked. wemby got by due to his absurd length, but did always seem to give a lot of space, had to do those wild sprints and leaping closeouts. sarr is much more natural out there, with the ability to still fly into the lane and block shots, or recover if beaten. he's not strong at all, so i think him playing the 4 and not the 5 is definitely better right now. i think he has the potential to be a Bam type defender when it comes to switchability and rim protection, though not as sturdy down low.

if he somehow made it to 4 and we took him, he probably starts the year as a backup and plays alongside Zollins in the second unit, and its just a matter of him working on his perimeter skills to be able to supplant sochan as the starting 4

[DPG21920]

Stein reporting spurs are trying to get to 1 for Sarr. As I said I wouldn’t give up 4+8 or 4+ATL 25 but ATL 25 for 1 makes sense

[Mr. Body]

Stein reporting spurs are trying to get to 1 for Sarr. As I said I wouldn’t give up 4+8 or 4+ATL 25 but ATL 25 for 1 makes sense

Do you mean ATL 25 straight up for 1? I think they have to get something out of this draft. They'd get murdered by their fanbase.

[DPG21920]

Do you mean ATL 25 straight up for 1? I think they have to get something out of this draft. They'd get murdered by their fanbase.

Maybe. That’s just my personal take on a deal not part of steins reporting. Agree it may be a tough pill to swallow optically for ATL but if you view it as Sarr for ATl 25 it sounds very reasonable Imo outside of optics of “number 1 for ATL 25”

I wouldn’t do 4+8 for 1 and I definitely wouldn’t do 4+ATL 25 for 1 but ATL 25 for 1? Seems right in that sweet spot (maybe Sa adds in CHA pick + 35)

[Mr. Body]

Maybe. That’s just my personal take on a deal not part of steins reporting. Agree it may be a tough pill to swallow optically for ATL but if you view it as Sarr for ATl 25 it sounds very reasonable Imo outside of optics of “number 1 for ATL 25”

I wouldn’t do 4+8 for 1 and I definitely wouldn’t do 4+ATL 25 for 1 but ATL 25 for 1? Seems right in that sweet spot (maybe Sa adds in CHA pick + 35)

A franchise just can't draw the number 1 pick and then trade it away for nothing in that draft. They'd get killed in local media, they'd lose ticket sales and season holders.

[DPG21920]

A franchise just can't draw the number 1 pick and then trade it away for nothing in that draft. They'd get killed in local media, they'd lose ticket sales and season holders.

Maybe - I don’t disagree but I’m not doing even 8 + ATL 25

That means it comes down to 4 + CHA pick + 35 or something like that. If they are more worried about fans than getting a better deal and their 25 back then fair enough. Great for me as I would much rather SA trade 4 + CHA + 35 for example than ATL 25

[scott]

ATL fans are delusional with their 4+8 or 4+ATL25 or the even more comical 4+ATL25+ATL27 takes. I even think the 2+26 option they threw out would be an overpay from WAS point of view. Call their bluff and let ATL sit there and take a guy who refused to workout for them. In this game of poker, Atlanta is holding seven-deuce. Fuck 'em.

[CGD]

ATL fans are delusional with their 4+8 or 4+ATL25 or the even more comical 4+ATL25+ATL27 takes. I even think the 2+26 option they threw out would be an overpay from WAS point of view. Call their bluff and let ATL sit there and take a guy who refused to workout for them. In this game of poker, Atlanta is holding seven-deuce. Fuck 'em.

They really are delusional with that noise.

[CGD]

Stein reporting spurs are trying to get to 1 for Sarr. As I said I wouldn’t give up 4+8 or 4+ATL 25 but ATL 25 for 1 makes sense

Dumb

[DPG21920]

Dumb

Im sorry but I really disagree it’s dumb (from SA perspective) even if I also *prefer* SA just held tight at 4 in this case (I would do 4 + CHA pick + 35 to move up for sure though)

Yes, this draft is flatter and weaker, but there is a such thing as bird in the hand. Turning that ATL 25 into the number one pick while keeping picks 4 and 8 would just be a massive win for SA with regards to kicking of the return for Murray.

Getting a number one pick (even if it’s just Sarr) is a great result overall, especially if doing this trade also kicks off ATL blowing it up which makes 26 and 27 more valuable too.

Yes, I would still rather keep ATL 25 and just draft 4 even after saying that, but it’s hard to argue against it being a pretty big win for SA for Dejounte deal value wise.

[CGD]

Im sorry but I really disagree it’s dumb (from SA perspective) even if I also *prefer* SA just held tight at 4 in this case (I would do 4 + CHA pick + 35 to move up for sure though)

Yes, this draft is flatter and weaker, but there is a such thing as bird in the hand. Turning that ATL 25 into the number one pick while keeping picks 4 and 8 would just be a massive win for SA with regards to kicking of the return for Murray.

Getting a number one pick (even if it’s just Sarr) is a great result overall, especially if doing this trade also kicks off ATL blowing it up which makes 26 and 27 more valuable too.

Yes, I would still rather keep ATL 25 and just draft 4 even after saying that, but it’s hard to argue against it being a pretty big win for SA for Dejounte deal value wise.

Should have qualified. I don’t think you are dumb. I think Stein has been irrelevant for some time and grasping a stuff.

[DPG21920]

Should have qualified. I don’t think you are dumb. I think Stein has been irrelevant for some time and grasping a stuff.

Gotcha - I didnt take it as you thinking I was dumb :Lol more that you thought trading ATL 25 for pick 1 was dumb. But Stein didnt say anything about what was offered; he just reported SA would like to move up and take Sarr

[Knoxxx]

We explored this out the ying yang. Spurs get #1 and Murray and send the 4 and 8 OR the 25 along with Keldon Johnson in either case. Or we can get creative if course with the 26 or 27, through in the CHI or CHA etc.

Most here don’t want to give up the ATL 25 for any price. Or anything ATL has at least. If the parties were motivated, they’d figure something out though, seems like.

[AFBlue]

FWIW, I buy the upside to play alongside Victor and the floor to be an impact defender at the next level. If we can put a protection on the '25 pick (top-8 or top-10) along with one of the two picks this year, that feels reasonable.

[ginobilized]

Let's do one of these trades and grab Sarr, Castle and Dillingham and call it a day. Sarr and Castle make our D infinitely better. Dillingham gonna Thrillingham.
Wemby is such a good passer that he'd turn Sarr into prime Capella. Can we just sign off this and be done with it?

[Mr. Body]

How does a protection on ATL's 2025 pick work? Their next year's pick is already swapped and they don't have their own SRPs in 2026 or 2027.

[SpursDynasty85]

Maybe. That’s just my personal take on a deal not part of steins reporting. Agree it may be a tough pill to swallow optically for ATL but if you view it as Sarr for ATl 25 it sounds very reasonable Imo outside of optics of “number 1 for ATL 25”

I wouldn’t do 4+8 for 1 and I definitely wouldn’t do 4+ATL 25 for 1 but ATL 25 for 1? Seems right in that sweet spot (maybe Sa adds in CHA pick + 35)

Sorry I just have to make sure you are saying it right. The number 1 pick in the whole draft for their number one pick next year that is likely to be in the 12-18 range? Man, that makes zero sense.

I feel like a more realistic take is this year 4 plus the 2026 pick swap and maybe 2 2nd rounders or #8 and the 2025 pick.

[scott]

How does a protection on ATL's 2025 pick work? Their next year's pick is already swapped and they don't have their own SRPs in 2026 or 2027.

In this theoretical, the pick is going back to ATL, so I think it could be something like:

2025: ATL pick (protected 1-8)
2026: SA pick (protected 1-6)
2027: Best of SA/ATL (Protected 1-6)
Converts to SA SRP 2028 and 2029 if has not conveyed.

You might even be able to do something for 2027 that is Best of SA/ATL (Protected 1-6)/Worst of SA/ATL if protection hits the best of.

[DPG21920]

Sorry I just have to make sure you are saying it right. The number 1 pick in the whole draft for their number one pick next year that is likely to be in the 12-18 range? Man, that makes zero sense.

I feel like a more realistic take is this year 4 plus the 2026 pick swap and maybe 2 2nd rounders or #8 and the 2025 pick.

I does not make zero sense. Just look at the player they would be giving up. Let’s say it’s one of Sarr, Risacher or Reed. All of those players would be pick 11-20 next season. So giving up a player that would be 11-20 for a pick that will likely fall 12-18 makes perfect sense.

Then once you just go beyond raw value like that, what it does is allow ATL to fully control their destiny. If they want to tank? Now they can since they own their 25 pick outright and can tank and go for a top 4 pick. If they dont want to tank? They can use it to trade for a player and that pick, which we just established as 12-18 is no different in value than how Sarr is viewed.

[SpursDynasty85]

I does not make zero sense. Just look at the player they would be giving up. Let’s say it’s one of Sarr, Risacher or Reed. All of those players would be pick 11-20 next season. So giving up a player that would be 11-20 for a pick that will likely fall 12-18 makes perfect sense.

Then once you just go beyond raw value like that, what it does is allow ATL to fully control their destiny. If they want to tank? Now they can since they own their 25 pick outright and can tank and go for a top 4 pick. If they dont want to tank? They can use it to trade for a player and that pick, which we just established as 12-18 is no different in value than how Sarr is viewed.

Weird that you consider all these prospects so low or you think next years prospects are all amazing. From the consensus you’re only missing the 2-3 can’t miss prospects but you have a boatload of intriguing ones this year. Atlanta is not looking to tank. They are actually in decent position because of Jalen Johnson and they still have youth AND the number 1 pick.

[DPG21920]

Weird that you consider all these prospects so low or you think next years prospects are all amazing. From the consensus you’re only missing the 2-3 can’t miss prospects but you have a boatload of intriguing ones this year. Atlanta is not looking to tank. They are actually in decent position because of Jalen Johnson and they still have youth AND the number 1 pick.

How would not drafting a rookie like Risacher equate to ATL tanking? The pick they would be getting, that they dont have now, is equally as valuable is the point either for a prospect next year of similar quality or as a trade asset to improve every bit as much this year than Risacher or Sarr would do.

[SpursDynasty85]

How would not drafting a rookie like Risacher equate to ATL tanking? The pick they would be getting, that they dont have now, is equally as valuable is the point either for a prospect next year of similar quality or as a trade asset to improve every bit as much this year than Risacher or Sarr would do.

ATL is a play-in team currently maybe even sneak in to #6 spot next year. Unless they plan on sitting all there good players for injuries, they can’t tank. Like I said, Murray, Trae, Bogey, Jalen Johnson, Deandre Hunter, Capela, and Okongwu is decent. Ideally you trade Trae for a nice piece and a draft pick or two and they keep their one. Your idea is not even a consideration for them.

[Knoxxx]

Let's do one of these trades and grab Sarr, Castle and Dillingham and call it a day. Sarr and Castle make our D infinitely better. Dillingham gonna Thrillingham.
Wemby is such a good passer that he'd turn Sarr into prime Capella. Can we just sign off this and be done with it?

No, you will be lambasted for leaning into this weak draft. actually.

I also proposed giving ATL their future picks back for the 2024 #1 and Murray. In that scenario, we have the #1, #4, #8 picks AND Murray. We might not even have to throw in Keldon Johnson in that scenario.

[DPG21920]

ATL is a play-in team currently maybe even sneak in to #6 spot next year. Unless they plan on sitting all there good players for injuries, they can’t tank. Like I said, Murray, Trae, Bogey, Jalen Johnson, Deandre Hunter, Capela, and Okongwu is decent. Ideally you trade Trae for a nice piece and a draft pick or two and they keep their one. Your idea is not even a consideration for them.

K

[rascal]

No, you will be lambasted for leaning into this weak draft. actually.

I also proposed giving ATL their future picks back for the 2024 #1 and Murray. In that scenario, we have the #1, #4, #8 picks AND Murray. We might not even have to throw in Keldon Johnson in that scenario.

That would be bad Public Relations if the Hawks send back Murray and their top pick for the exact package that got them Murray.

Basically giving up the number 1 that the franchise has never had before and the fans are excited they got for a two year rental of Murray.

Spurs aren't trading those picks anyways. They want to build through the draft.

[Knoxxx]

That would be bad Public Relations if the Hawks send back Murray and their top pick for the exact package that got them Murray.

Basically giving up the number 1 that the franchise has never had before and the fans are excited they got for a two year rental of Murray.

Spurs aren't trading those picks anyways. They want to build through the draft.

How about SAS gets:

#1 + Murray

ATL gets:

#4, #8, Keldon Johnson

Now I get the "exact same package" and bad PR argument, but the future ATL picks are not guaranteed at all as to the draft placement, they may only be in the 15-20 range. And I am not convinced the average fan knows or cares about that anyway. The average ATL fan would probably like to have the two new players coming in and enjoy Keldon's aggressive, attacking style.

As far as the issue of whether ATL can/should tank or not, this just maintains status quo. Thus we sidestep the issue of ATL's 2025-2027 picks.

[$pursDynasty]

Some picks will need more time than others to develop. I sense that Sarr will need a lot of work being young. Bigs seem to need more development time as well (just my opinion). I don't see Sarr contributing much next year. If taking a long road, then that's probably okay. But I think I would prefer a player who can contribute a little bit earlier.

See for me Sarr has the least bust potential. What the Spurs need from him is locking in on defense and rebounding. He can do that immediately and that would immediately improve the Spurs.

[Russ]

Here's a crazy one.

https://www.si.com/nba/kings/sacramento-kings-news/nba-2024-mock-draft-3-spurs-trade-up-new-number-one

Has the Spurs trading with Washington to get Sarr at #2 and still keeping #8. Spurs trade Was #4 and a future unspecified 1st and take Topic at #8.

[$pursDynasty]

How about SAS gets:

#1 + Murray

ATL gets:

#4, #8, Keldon Johnson

Now I get the "exact same package" and bad PR argument, but the future ATL picks are not guaranteed at all as to the draft placement, they may only be in the 15-20 range. And I am not convinced the average fan knows or cares about that anyway. The average ATL fan would probably like to have the two new players coming in and enjoy Keldon's aggressive, attacking style.

As far as the issue of whether ATL can/should tank or not, this just maintains status quo. Thus we sidestep the issue of ATL's 2025-2027 picks.

Atl wouldn't go for that, but replace Keldon with one of those Atl first would get it done. In fact if I were the Spurs I would top 3 protect the pick Giving the Spurs starting 5 of Murray, Vassell, Keldon, Sarr and Wemby. Could be elite defensively and also has scorers on the floor. Just for 4,8, and one Atl picks. Let's Atl tank win, win.

[Joseph Kony]

How about SAS gets:

#1 + Murray

ATL gets:

#4, #8, Keldon Johnson

Now I get the "exact same package" and bad PR argument, but the future ATL picks are not guaranteed at all as to the draft placement, they may only be in the 15-20 range. And I am not convinced the average fan knows or cares about that anyway. The average ATL fan would probably like to have the two new players coming in and enjoy Keldon's aggressive, attacking style.

As far as the issue of whether ATL can/should tank or not, this just maintains status quo. Thus we sidestep the issue of ATL's 2025-2027 picks.

I'd do it. Keldon won't be missed and we still get whoever we want in the draft plus upgrade the 8th pick to Dejounte. That's a win for us but doesn't look good from ATL's perspective.

[baseline bum]

How about SAS gets:

#1 + Murray

ATL gets:

#4, #8, Keldon Johnson

Now I get the "exact same package" and bad PR argument, but the future ATL picks are not guaranteed at all as to the draft placement, they may only be in the 15-20 range. And I am not convinced the average fan knows or cares about that anyway. The average ATL fan would probably like to have the two new players coming in and enjoy Keldon's aggressive, attacking style.

As far as the issue of whether ATL can/should tank or not, this just maintains status quo. Thus we sidestep the issue of ATL's 2025-2027 picks.

Keldon is just a throw in basically so the trade would essentially boil down to the Spurs trading #8 for Murray while also getting to jump #4 to #1. Wildly unbalanced and ATL wouldn't do the deal without at least getting their 25 pick back.

[Knoxxx]

Keldon is just a throw in basically so the trade would essentially boil down to the Spurs trading #8 for Murray while also getting to jump #4 to #1. Wildly unbalanced and ATL wouldn't do the deal without at least getting their 25 pick back.

Yes of course the goal is to rip off ATL twice, if possible. We just have to shell game it a little to give them cover with their fan base. Also the previous trade is now a sunk cost. Plus Keldon Johnson is more valued outside Spurs fans. We can always throw in other players, 2RPs, fake 1RPs.

[BatManu20]

New meme just dropped :lol

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[TD 21]

Supposedly, the Spurs board was: 1) Sarr, 2) Sheppard, 3) Castle.

[Uriel]

Supposedly, the Spurs board was: 1) Sarr, 2) Sheppard, 3) Castle.
Source?

[SPURt]

New meme just dropped :lol

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https://media.tenor.com/Bu5QAZfdv7sAAAAM/yikes-oops.gif

[DAF86]

Summer league hasn't started well for rascal, tbh. :lol

[rjv]

Source?

ST source = throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

He’ll be a great tank commander. I wanted Hawks to draft him because he wouldn’t help for a couple of years at least.

Summer league being meaningless and all that, but he should really be a rim running center right now and he refuses to do that. Not sure how his development would go if he ignores his strengths and focuses on his weaknesses. Wizards aren’t helping by signing Valanciunas. Someone should be an adult and speak sense there.

[Ice009]

Supposedly, the Spurs board was: 1) Sarr, 2) Sheppard, 3) Castle.

Darn, I didn't want to comment or post about it as I didn't really watch any of the games, but he played for the NBL team in my state and wasn't all that good. He only averaged about 19 minutes I think it was, but wasn't that great looking at his stats.
Bryce Cotton is pretty much the MVP of the team if that tells you anything. I was a bit worried about drafting him if he was still on the board when the Spurs picked. Anyway, that has passed now, so I wish the kid well and hope he can improve and become a good player.

[Spurs9]

Trying to match those Bronny numbers.

[spurraider21]

Sarr's perimeter game coming in is so much less refined than Wemby's was, which makes his insistence on playing the 4 right away more baffling

[rascal]

Now is the time to offer Sochan for Sarr.

Buy low

[TD 21]

Source?

I'm not at liberty to discuss.



ST source = throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks.

:lmao If I was the type to do that, I wouldn't wait almost 15 years to start . . . and you wouldn't be questioning it if it came from one of the snobs on this board.

[Uriel]

I'm not at liberty to discuss.
Not that I don’t believe you, but how then can we ascertain that your claim is legitimate?

[spurraider21]

Not that I don’t believe you, but how then can we ascertain that your claim is legitimate?
why, his impeccable track record, of course

[TD 21]

Not that I don’t believe you, but how then can we ascertain that your claim is legitimate?

You can't, you'll just have to trust the almost 15 years of not making things up . . . or not. I don't care.

[Dejounte]

Whaddaya know. Looking correct with yet another prospect.

[scott]

I thought Sarr was just another Jalen Duren, but I was wrong. Jalen Duren doesn't go 0/15.

[Russ]

I thought Sarr was just another Jalen Duren, but I was wrong. Jalen Duren doesn't go 0/15.

Duren was a different type of player.

Duren was way more physical and way less quick.

In the end, it may not matter. Sarr has not used his plentiful attributes up to now.

Still hold out hope.

[DAF86]

Gonna play devil's advocate here and say that it is somewhat promising that despite not hitting a single shot, he still put it up 15 times and 7 from 3. The worst thing a prospect can do is lose confidence and stop shooting.

[south side spur]

Source?

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spurs-insider/id1344226066

[Uriel]

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spurs-insider/id1344226066
Thanks. :tu

[exstatic]

I thought Sarr was just another Jalen Duren, but I was wrong. Jalen Duren doesn't go 0/15.

Jalen Duren blocks shots, dunks, and likes both. Sarr thinks he’s Kawhi.

[scott]

Jalen Duren blocks shots, dunks, and likes both. Sarr thinks he’s Kawhi.

Jalen Duren doesn't block that many shots, tbh

[CorrectCrusader]

A lot of stupidly short sighted takes here. Sarr has shown insane dominance at the rim so far. The scoring will come, that was always his weakness.

[ambchang]

Sarr is fine. One bad game doesn’t a carry make. Especially in summer league. He will be a good player.

[TD 21]

Duren doesn't make sense as a comp for Sarr. He's a far stronger, more explosive, dominant rebounder, who struggles protecting the rim (his comp is Drummond).

Claxton is the comp for Sarr. String bean rim protectors, who can play various p-n-r coverages, but be overpowered in the post/on the glass and have mostly theoretical offensive skillsets.


Whaddaya know. Looking correct with yet another prospect.

:lmao Declaring victory based on a few Summer League games.



https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spurs-insider/id1344226066

:lmao I didn't know these fools have a podcast (I guess virtually everyone does now). I don't keep up with these apologists, but whichever of them apparently said it was not where I heard it from.

[Uriel]

Here is the full quote from the podcast:


This is an information that helps anybody now, but I just found it interesting the way the Spurs viewed the top of that draft. And it goes like this, if they had had the first pick, and this surprised me because we spend so much time talking about the draft and we kind of didn't really talk about this name, but if they'd had the top pick, they would have absolutely taken Alex Sarr with the top pick.

Alex Sarr, went to the Washington Wizards with the number two pick.

We wondered about his fit and blah, blah, blah. They thought if they ended up with Alex Sarr, all the others, like just they pictured him as like a bigger, better Jeremy Sochan that maybe they could teach to do the offensive stuff. Like the defense and the mobility would be just worth it, especially in a draft like this where everyone has flaws.

If they'd had the second pick or if the choice had been Castle or Reed Sheppard at four, they would have gone Reed Sheppard probably. Probably just because of the shooting. And then Castle was the guy that I guess probably would have been third on their board.

So they got the third guy on their board at pick number four.

Not a lot of interest in Risacher that went first overall. Like it'd be interesting, I don't know what they'd have done if those first three guys had been gone one through two, three, and Risacher was there at number four, but weren't quite sold on him, I don't think. So all that was interesting, but I was a little surprised that they were, it was like a no-brainer that you take Sarr number one if they had had the pick.

Risacher was a guy who really rose, like two months before the draft, you look at the mocks, and he was like eight, nine, 10, then that range, and maybe it wasn't two months. It was not long before the draft. During the last season, I don't think anybody thought he was number one.

He had kind of this surge because of the way he finished his season overseas, and I tend to be kind of skeptical of those overnight risers, and sounds like the Spurs might have been too.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-new-look-lineup-around-wemby/id1344226066?i=1000662457778

[ChumpDumper]

I am not worried about this basketball player rn.

[Uriel]

You can't, you'll just have to trust the almost 15 years of not making things up . . . or not. I don't care.
Well, since you’re so plugged in, won’t you mind sharing with us all who the Spurs would’ve selected at #8 had they chosen to keep the pick?

[TD 21]

Well, since you’re so plugged in, won’t you mind sharing with us all who the Spurs would’ve selected at #8 had they chosen to keep the pick?

I never said I was "so plugged in" (I'm unequivocally not) . . . but like most, I believe it would have been Salaun.

[K...]

the real mission accomplished is getting atlanta to take rischy at one which has no up side and is only a decent floor.

the spurs view is probably correct that the top three will probably be sheppard, castle then sarr, but sarr will hopefully have a long career and be a good foundation piece. and doesn't hurt Washingtons tank. harrison barnes will be better than rischy over the same period and we can find that archetype in other drafts.

[spurraider21]

Supposedly, the Spurs board was: 1) Sarr, 2) Sheppard, 3) Castle.


Source?


I'm not at liberty to discuss.

:lmao confidential source is jeff mcdonald and co

and if you didnt get it from that podcast that came a day before your post, your "source" certainly did :lol

[TD 21]

:lmao confidential source is jeff mcdonald and co

and if you didnt get it from that podcast that came a day before your post, your "source" certainly did :lol

I don't really know or care where they got it from and wasn't all the way sold myself (hence "supposedly"), but if another source with presumably some level of knowledge said something similar around the same time, that only adds credence.

[spurraider21]

I don't really know or care where they got it from and wasn't all the way sold myself (hence "supposedly"), but if another source with presumably some level of knowledge said something similar around the same time, that only adds credence.
you told us a day after the podcast was release :lol

[TD 21]

you told us a day after the podcast was release :lol

Apparently it was the same day.

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but if you're insinuating that after almost 15 years I up and decided to play insider with information that was unbeknownst to me available for public consumption around the same time, that's absurd.

[spurraider21]

Apparently it was the same day.

I'm not sure what you're getting at, but if you're insinuating that after almost 15 years I up and decided to play insider with information that was unbeknownst to me available for public consumption around the same time, that's absurd.
nah the insinuation is that your source listened to a podcast and passed along what he heard.

you posted it 2 days ago, on july 17. the podcast is dated july 16

[scott]

I'd posit that nothing the 3 stooges of the E-N says has any credibility anyway. Definitely not interested in listening to their slurper podcast

[TD 21]

nah the insinuation is that your source listened to a podcast and passed along what he heard.

you posted it 2 days ago, on july 17. the podcast is dated july 16

Either that or the timing is a coincidence. This person is more acquaintance than friend, so it was more so a right time, right place type thing. For all I know, they could have been telling others for days/weeks.

I don't know why it says that, but I posted it on the 16th.

[exstatic]

I'd posit that nothing the 3 stooges of the E-N says has any credibility anyway. Definitely not interested in listening to their slurper podcast

Watched part of one, and it was gawdawful.

[Slippy]

A lot of stupidly short sighted takes here. Sarr has shown insane dominance at the rim so far. The scoring will come, that was always his weakness.

Too true. Using summer league as your evidence is very short sighted.:blah

Sarr looking good as advertised on that 2 way potential so far.

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Too true. Using summer league as your evidence is very short sighted.:blah

Sarr looking good as advertised on that 2 way potential so far.

Is he playing well? I haven't really checked up him, but I should have. How's he looking compared to Zach Edey and Donovan Clingan? I haven't had time to watch a little bit of these big men as I liked all of them.