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He's already got one foot in Atlanta tbh.
He's already got one foot in Atlanta tbh.
It most likely won't be Sarr, but I'm still hoping that someday the Spurs can feature 15'+ of defensive length in their front court, with Wemby's 8' wingspan + another defender's 7'+...
first pick
Serious question, if he somehow falls to 4, the Spurs have to take him right?
It'd probably mean ZR and Reed aren't available so yes. Just bc of the potential
imo Sarr is the least likely player to still be on the board at #4, followed by Risacher.
Fck it, trade 4 & 8 for 1 and get this guy! Lol jk would be bonkers if it happened.
Sochan wingspan is 7’
Why the low block numbers, Sochan plays small. Jumps like a white man
I have to credit you for one upping my third grade takes with second grade takes.
That said, I’ve said it before I only like Sochan as a small ball Pf. He’s more the size I prefer for a SF.
As far as his low 3 PT shooting, we want him to shoot 40% from three AFTER he reups on a team friendly deal or else someone will offer him 50 gazillion per.
If the Spurs had #1 and didn't have to give up a ton of assets, I'm sure this would be more of a conversation. His length, defensive instincts and fluidity are pretty intriguing.
It's actually 6'11'', which is small for a four.
He is a (half) white man.
Power forwards who block shots barely exist anymore. Its mostly centers.
https://www.basketball-reference.com...als_stats::blk
the PF spot is used for versatility these days.
Jalen Duren (someone who should be guarding the paint) only has 7 more blocks than Sochan this season.
rascal with his brain dead takes per usual
Davis-Lopez-Holmgren are all in the 178-190 range, with Chet having a fantastic year for a rookie... and Wembanyama still has 64 more blocks than him. It's astounding.
One of the Sochan knocks is he doesn't have the length to guard someone big like Lauri, or stop Doncic from getting his shots. I never liked Sochan as a PF, again except for SMALL BALL. When we are discussing this topic, I went back and looked at that last game Sochan v Doncic, where Doncic shot 6 for 25 or whatever, really bad. One of the clips I noticed the guy really playing nice D and with the length capable to bother the shot of Doncic or say a Keven Durant, was Dominic Barlow.
About Dominick Barlow
Dominick Barlow is a promising forward with an intriguing frame, good length, and an evolving skill set who thrived in the Overtime Elite program. Widely regarded as one of the top-100 prospects in the high school class of 2021 following his senior year at Dumont High School (NJ), Barlow opted to turn pro in lieu of a postgraduate year.
Measured standing 69.75 in shoes with a rapidly improving 221-pound frame and a 73 wingspan at the 2022 NBA Draft Combine, Barlow has a very promising frame and is a solid athlete who plays with a strong motor.
NBA 2022 Draft Prospects | Dominick Barlow | NBA.com
So I don't think we need to get a guy like Buzelis (same height) or a true PF this draft, we need to see how Barlow works for us with more consistent playing time.
Edit: also with Barlow I noticed for a short time we were trying to guard Antemkumpo (sp?) with Sochan which was nerve wracking, that is not a viable matchup. Barlow came in and did a nice job staying in front of Giannis and contesting at the rim.
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Barlow is intriguing, but he's nowhere near enough of a sure thing that you don't draft a PF because of him.
I kinda had that thought at the end of the season that it would be nice to see Sochan get some play time at SF and Barlow at the PF position to see how that played out. I think people are still using Sochan as a scapegoat for our season last year but how many times has a coach grabbed a starting PF and told him first day of practice your now going to be starting PG?
Also, Dejounte makes a good point about his blocks and when you add he was playing PG that is actually pretty good block percentage
As far as Barlow I like the kid but he is not stopping me from upgrading at any position I do think he is to small for Center and that his best position is PF. For me I still would like to see how Wemby can handle the 3 and Barlow the 4 and see how that plays out.
Until Barlow becomes a real threat from 3 (if ever) he needs to play between outside shooters at the 3 and 5. He can't really play alongside sochan until one of them becomes a real deep threat.
Thanks for the write-up! Yes he seems like he is in Wemby's territory and it's doubtful he falls to 4. Wonder who Wemby would like to see out of this draft?
I don't think anyone is seeing a realistic PF at the 4 and 8 draft spots. Buzelis maybe, but I don't know that he is even an upgrade from Barlow. That was my main point, Barlow may or may not be a long term solution for us at starting PF, but he could be a very useful piece to the roster and at a bargain price. Thus seeing how this promising 20-year old prospect continues to develop is not something to forget about. He is a versatile defender that can play the 3-5 positions.
I see Matas quite differently. He's #3 on my BB and #2 on my Spurs board. I think he has a real chance to be the best player in this draft. I see him as having a higher ceiling than Risacher but a lower floor.
Matas is polarizing, he is in contention for most polarizing, I'd rate him almost even with Topic in that regard and a little better than Holland. Matas is also the exact same height as Barlow, but with a shorter wingspan by 5 inches. I saw Barlow contesting Doncic, he was bothering him with that extra reach and does same to Durant.
Edit added: we need a roster of key role players that don't break the bank, and Barlow is showing that early potential so far.
I'm not suggesting we drop Barlow. I'm just saying you don't pass over a player you like because of him. You draft your guy and let them compete.
Matas, Dilly, Topic, Castle, and Holland are all pretty polarizing. They could all bust, but any of them can pan out if they develop certain aspects to their game. I've got Matas at the top of that bunch because I think he's got the best chance of adding to his game. I'd have Topic there, or higher, if it weren't for the injury aspect of things right now. Next would be Castle because even if he never learns to shoot he'll have a role as a defender and connector on Offense.
You're not crazy. I've been saying this very thing since May 12th. Love that this thread has so few posts.
I hope everyone continues to believe Sarr is a lousy offensive player, and not a good fit next to VW. Keep thinking like that.
Go get him, PATFO.
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