Game Thread: San Antonio Spurs vs. Charlotte Hornets @ 7:30 PM CT - Summer League Game #1

[timvp]

Should be interesting. For the sake of the servers, hopefully Castle dosen't go 0-fer from three-point range. :lol

[manufor3]

Bouyea - Castle - Cissoko - Ingram - Mensah starting per Twitter

[Degoat]

Bouyea - Castle - Cissoko - Ingram - Mensah starting per Twitter

surprising would have thought David Duke and gray would be starting too

[tesseractive]

surprising would have thought David Duke and gray would be starting too

We've got the 2-3-4 covered with draft picks, so I presume they'll come in as backups.

[siraulo23]

:hungry:

[cd98]

Only way to watch is EsPN plus?

[Obstructed_View]

surprising would have thought David Duke and gray would be starting too

You can only start five ;)

[Obstructed_View]

My favorite time of the year. Castle better play well; his whole career depends on how he plays in this game.

[Obstructed_View]

Only way to watch is EsPN plus?
Isn't it on nbatv?

[drpill]

Only way to watch is EsPN plus?

NBA TV as well.

[tesseractive]

Only way to watch is EsPN plus?
NBA TV

[Obstructed_View]

Nothing can go wrong for the dubs tonight.

[Proxy]

there are streams online, baffles me how many of yall still depend on cable and nbatv

[heyheymymy]

streameast has the free video stream super easy 2 pop ups and your watching

[Extra Stout]

If Castle shoots at least 33% from 3, the Spurs are going to have the greatest dynasty in the history of team sports.

If he doesn’t, Wembanyama will force his way to LA, the Spurs will move to Las Vegas, and San Antonio will be hit by a meteor.

[heyheymymy]

I'm on Salaun watch tonight too

Got to see what the CHA stole from us lol

[ace3g]

Spurs win.......the tip.

[Obstructed_View]

Ugh. Mark Jones.

[scott]

Bouyea’s hairline will never not amuse me.

[heyheymymy]

Can't believe McGowens is still with CHA

[jeebus]

"-yana". People still can't say his name.

[ace3g]

Mark Jones is team Wembanyana...

[Degoat]

No offense on the court, kinda why I was surprised Duke and gray weren’t starting

[scott]

It’s been an entire year and this twat still doesn’t know how to pronounce Wembanyama?

[cd98]

Whoa no touch on these jumpers so far.

[heyheymymy]

Lol mark Jones is such a dumb fuckin bum

[Obstructed_View]

Mark Jones still can't say Wembanyama.

[heyheymymy]

he even hesitates half way though to extra enunciate the YANA

[itzsoweezee]

This motherfucker still can’t pronounce Wembanyama

[scott]

If Sidy’s been working hard, it hasn’t been on his 3 point shot.

[heyheymymy]

Sidy not shy to rip threes up

just not falling

[Mugen]

Keep letting it fly tbh :lol

[CorrectCrusader]

The shooting in our starting lineup this season is gonna be all time bad

[LeBowen]

At least Castle's defense looks solid.

[Obstructed_View]

Nobody can defend. Nobody can shoot. Yay summer league first game. I've been doing this for 25 odd years and I still get my hopes up.

[objective]

Weird seeing Sidy with a clearly defined neck after the weight loss

[SPURt]

So far so bad… woof

[rankingtear]

Brick city.

[Obstructed_View]

he even hesitates half way though to extra enunciate the YANA
Yeah, show on the doll where the Spurs touched you, Mark. :bang:

[heyheymymy]

these announcers suck

[scott]

Slick pass by Castle. Very nice.

[Degoat]

There we go castle, settle in I like it

[CorrectCrusader]

Castles vision looks good as the lead guard

[Mugen]

Nice PG stretch from Castle there. Great find for the open 3 in the corner then nice little floater in the paint.

[manufor3]

I'm not sure if I've ever seen lazier drop coverage than Nathan Mensah out there right now

[Russ]

If Castle shoots at least 33% from 3, the Spurs are going to have the greatest dynasty in the history of team sports.

If he doesn’t, Wembanyama will force his way to LA, the Spurs will move to Las Vegas, and San Antonio will be hit by a meteor.

That's a lot to lay on a Summer League game. Just kidding.

[NASpurs]

Castle :cry

[heyheymymy]

nice work by castle

o board and then hits the man in the corner for three

next possession castle hits from mid range

[LeBowen]

Get that fan on the floor, would be our best shooter.

[Spurs9]

Castle is going to be so fun to watch with WembNayna

[Mugen]

I wonder if Mark Jones thought "Get Out" was based on him tbh.

[paperboy77]

Castle gonna be good.

[Spurs Brazil]

Castle had some nice passes

[cd98]

Castle looking solid in my mind. Still want to see him shoot a 3.

[sfernald]

Castle a good player but will he make a shot?

[Obstructed_View]

So glad they take out our number one pick and leave the 40 year old guy from the Toros in the game.

[ace3g]

Jameer Nelson Jr. definitely has his dad's body type.

[heyheymymy]

Im now seeing Salaun and KJ Simpson are not playing Summer League due to injuries

[sfernald]

I'm on Salaun watch tonight too

Got to see what the CHA stole from us lol

Salaun is two years away from two years away from dominating summer league.

[Mugen]

Sidy :lol

[SpursFan86]

Castle’s first stint pretty much summed up him as a player. Has some really nice court vision and feel for the game, but in the PnR guys just totally sag off him and dare him to shoot. Like in college, he seems very hesitant to pull up even if he’s wide open. Obviously becoming a respectable spot-up guy from 3 will be big but developing a decent mid-range pullup would work wonders too.

Had a really impressive defensive possession too.

[SPURt]

That looked like a quick end to Minix’s career. Asked to go to the locker room after closing out and looking like he popped a shoulder.

[cd98]

Spurs playing like they are coached by a former ball boy.

[Mal]

This team sucks

[Obstructed_View]

Cissoko looks like absolute shit.

[ace3g]

Sidy needs to add the 20 pounds back on.

[SpursFan86]

Cissoko looking like dog shit :lol

[manufor3]

Sidy uhhhh does not look ready at all

[Mugen]

Well Sidy's roster spot is gonna be open by training camp :lol

[Degoat]

Millner and sidy suck so hard

[Obstructed_View]

I thought, 'Well, the Spurs are only down three as bad as they've played.'

They haven't scored since. :lol

[SPURt]

Not a shred of shooting on this team :lol

[Mal]

Well Sissoko was failed dart throw, but still plenty of SRPs to shoot with

[jeebus]

Yeesh. That's all.

[Uriel]

:lol Spurs

[Obstructed_View]

Like, those aren't even shots. He has flipped the ball up in the air near the basket three or four times. He has tapped the ball out of bounds a couple of times. I know it's the first game of SL but he's a veteran now.

[onechance87]

our scouts are terrible,Who are these players they brought in.

[Rubberducky]

https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZHBucGZobjNpMnhyaHNzbHhvNGVlbjd iYm1oMHRrajFnY2ExaTRpOCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3o6ZsY2kEAUbQjDKNO/giphy.gif

[Obstructed_View]

Don't play defense. Just let him shoot.

[paperboy77]

Sidy :lol

Yea. Dudes lost the weight, looks leaner but still hasn't a clue about offence.

[ace3g]

Hornets 29-11

[Obstructed_View]

Looked like his dad.

[Mal]

Just keep Castle away from this team

[manufor3]

Jameer Nelson Jr picking up where he left off for my Horned Frogs, falling asleep on defense and giving up open threes <3

[ace3g]

Is Castle done for the night...

[Mugen]

A team that can't shoot or defend...is Pop coaching summer league too? :lol

[Obstructed_View]

That big white guy loves to not play defense.

[cd98]

I wonder if the Spurs coach has the urge to wipe up sweat spots on the floor during the flow of the game.

[NASpurs]

Man vs Boys game

[scott]

What’s the lowest point total in Summer League history? Might have a record breaking performance on our hands.

[NASpurs]

Is Castle on minutes restriction? :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Three Spurs under the basket and nobody grabs the rebound.

[Mal]

I start to doubt scouting and drafting in this organisation.

[scott]

I really hope this isn’t a reflection of our college scouting department. Because if it is, I hope we trade all our draft picks away :lol

[dbestpro]

Maybe Trevino can work concessions.

[Mugen]

So is Castle not playing anymore? Load Management during a SL game? :lol

[SpursFan86]

Did Castle get hurt? I see him out there on the bench but why is he not coming back in?

[cd98]

Last year's summer league team was way better.

[Obstructed_View]

Last year's summer league team was way better.
But Victor was a bust who got dunked on.

[Rubberducky]

Can the ball boy get Castle back in the game please?

[SpursFan86]

Well, assuming he has to be hurt. No way they’d just sit him for this long right?

[Obstructed_View]

Can we go get an actual ball boy to coach?

[baseline bum]

WTF is this? Was excited to watch Castle and instead we're getting a team of Toros rejects on the floor.

[Mugen]

Who tf is coaching SL? This moron might be worse than the old man :lol

[Robz4000]

:lol glad I wasn't able to see this apparent abortion tbh

[jeebus]

Castle being benched so he can get over himself

[NASpurs]

Our guys trip on their own feet. Great scouting tbh :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Poke the ball away, run away from it.

[SpursFan86]

Looks like he’s coming back in. I legit thought he was injured, wtf is this coaching job :lmao

[Degoat]

Spurs play again tomorrow, y’all should how they operate by now.

[Kurik]

Ball boy coaching

[blizz]

W. T. F. ? Why is Castle not playing? This is bullshit

[Mugen]

Please trade all the picks for Markkanen. This coaching staff and FO can't draft or develop for shit tbh. :lol

[NASpurs]

Gueye is dark as night. :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Long jumper, four guys stand flat-footed and watch the guy get the offensive board.

[baseline bum]

Why is our 20131 pick from Minnesota getting so many minutes over Castle tonight?

[SpursGuy91]

Harrison Ingram is shockingly bad, he shouldn’t have been drafted

[scott]

Our guys trip on their own feet. Great scouting tbh :lol

Psyched to build through the draft

[Mal]

Please trade all the picks for Markkanen. This coaching staff and FO can't draft or develop for shit tbh. :lol

I could have draft Wemby with 1 OA, but rest of picks are abysmal. Sochan may stick in the NBA, but noone more

[Obstructed_View]

:lol glad I wasn't able to see this apparent abortion tbh
Overreacting to this is so much fun.

[manufor3]

Holy hell Sidy grasp the ball homie

[NASpurs]

Why is the sideline reporter's voice cracking? She sounds scared.

[baseline bum]

Please trade all the picks for Markkanen. This coaching staff and FO can't draft or develop for shit tbh. :lol

It's honestly a reason I'm not too worried about giving up two of the three Atlanta picks/swap, the 2030 unprotected pick w/ double swap, and the 20131 unprotected Minnesota pick + Kelon for Markannen.

[Obstructed_View]

Harrison Ingram is shockingly bad, he shouldn’t have been drafted
As he boots a pass off his foot.: lol

[cd98]

Castle needs to shoot that. He got a travel because she passed up an open shot.

[SpursFan86]

I’m not being dramatic when I say this is maybe the worst professional basketball I’ve ever watched :lmao

[cd98]

So Minix is done?

[NASpurs]

I like when our young PG in summer league (not Castle) is showing male pattern baldness already.

[manufor3]

Listening to Mark Jones wax poetic about the level of talent across the globe and the brilliance of the scouting departments to find these guys, while I watch some of the worst professional basketball I've ever seen is hilarious.

[ace3g]

Poke the ball away, run away from it.

Yeah that was terrible, we don't have a lot of 50/50 ball type players on this roster.

[jeebus]

Overreacting to this is so much fun.

These game threads are where most of the fun is at during summer league/preseason. "omg! This draft pick from the worst draft ever is dog shit!"

[Mal]

nr 31 cannot play basketball

[Mugen]

Looks like Ingram sucks too :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Mensah is so awful.

[scott]

Castle too hesitant to let it rip. C’mon man, shoot those

[cd98]

Whoa that free throw shot.

[Obstructed_View]

I’m not being dramatic when I say this is maybe the worst professional basketball I’ve ever watched :lmao
You must have missed the game before this one. The Heat were awful.

[ace3g]

Nice pass from Castle.

[baseline bum]

So this time Mensah finishes the damn possession after getting an amazing pass from Castle.

[ace3g]

Castle with deep 3 from top of the key.

[Mal]

I saw Nunez today, he was awful as well for Spain

[Obstructed_View]

Cissoko literally gave him the lane for that layup. Jesus.

[cd98]

Whoa Castle...smooth shot.

[SpursFan86]

Castle deep 3! Nice

[heyheymymy]

bam Castle triple!!

[scott]

STEPHON CASTLE IS THE GREAT SHOOTER IN NBA HISTORY!!! POETIC BEAUTY ON THAT TRIPLE!!! WE STACKED

[Mugen]

Castle <3

[Degoat]

Being down 14 not bad considering lol

[baseline bum]

Nice shot Stephon :tu

[Obstructed_View]

Castle with deep 3 from top of the key.
I'm a minute behind you, but that shot was gorgeous.

[NASpurs]

We literally have the ball boy coaching our team.

[jeebus]

Castle can play, the rest can be crucified.

[Obstructed_View]

Ingram is going to be a star, because he looks like he can't play basketball right now.

[fafo]

I like when our young PG in summer league (not Castle) is showing male pattern baldness already.
Dude looks at Trae Young's hair with envy like he has prime Dirk's style.

[NASpurs]

Listen to her voice, wtf :lol

[Mal]

How long you have keep you 2nd round selection around, before launching him into the sun ? Ingram, Sissoko already looking like busts.

[Obstructed_View]

What the fuck is wrong with that woman? She's like Hooks from Police Academy.

[fafo]

Steph Curry Castle??

[scott]

The sideline reporter sounds like she’s being forced to do this at gunpoint

[NASpurs]

The sideline reporter sounds like she’s being forced to do this at gunpoint

Blink twice if they're holding you hostage :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Well you know what? If Castle can shoot, I don't care about any of this other shit.

[blizz]

Castle looks like the best player on the floor. I’m not saying that he’s done anything spectacular but you can tell when a player is just better than the rest. He’s fluid. He looks confident. He looks smooth. NBA body. He looks the part so far. Almost like he’s just taking it easy, like he knows he’s better and just messing around. Maybe it’s just me but that’s what I see.

[ace3g]

Still sucked that Castle played for 6 minutes in 1st Q and didn't check back in till around 3:15 in the 2nd...

[SpursGuy91]

Seems like they’re holding back the actual hoopers until Vegas. Horne, Gray, Duke and Green all haven’t seen any minutes… I don’t get why they bother even rostering some of these bums and then feel the need to give them some minutes because they feel sorry for them

[scott]

Castle is +1 in a game we’re down by 14

[Mugen]

I don't understand this FO's obsession with drafting guys that do nothing at an NBA level when they've been dog shit at developing for a while now :lol

Like when's the last time they drafted a guy that could shoot? Fn Joe Wieskamp :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Still sucked that Castle played for 6 minutes in 1st Q and didn't check back in till around 3:15 in the 2nd...
For some reason he isn't allowed to be on the floor without that point guard who looks like Speedy Claxton's dad.

[objective]

Will Castle's gripping his shorts become the new Bryn Shoe Wipe?

[Mugen]

The Salt Lake / California Classic has always been a shitshow for as long as I can remember watching SL. But that 1st half when guys were literally dribbling off their foot at half court might have been the funniest half in recent memory tbh.

[onechance87]

Still sucked that Castle played for 6 minutes in 1st Q and didn't check back in till around 3:15 in the 2nd...

think the coach forgot anout him.lol

[Raven]

thik it is safe to say this was dogshit

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR2QUapWEAATQQE?format=png&name=medium

[daslicer]

Castle is great at pushing the ball up the court and he looks like he's a natural playmaker judging by some the passes he has already made. He also has good ball handling and can attack the basket despite not converting on his drives in this game.

[Obstructed_View]

I don't understand this FO's obsession with drafting guys that do nothing at an NBA level when they've been dog shit at developing for a while now :lol

Like when's the last time they drafted a guy that could shoot? Fn Joe Wieskamp :lol
Well they tried shooters like Jack McClinton. Then they fell in love with a body type because of Kawhi. They should have been looking at the guys who work out and practice relentlessly.

[Mr. Body]

Pack Castle up. Legit don't think he gets anything out of Summer League other than learning more of game speed.

Ingram and Cissoko look lost and ineffective. Team has usual Spurs-level lack of talent at this level.

But I hope people see that Castle is very effective with the ball in his hands. He can run the point.

[Obstructed_View]

The Salt Lake / California Classic has always been a shitshow for as long as I can remember watching SL. But that 1st half when guys were literally dribbling off their foot at half court might have been the funniest half in recent memory tbh.
Ingram literally just fell down, and Mensah is like 1-6 inside 1 foot.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/NoCeilingsNBA/status/1809759582346178663

[Mugen]

Will Castle's gripping his shorts become the new Bryn Shoe Wipe?

His flex celebration might be the new LMA's "Ayyyyyyy" tbh


https://d26erm6jy2o8yz.cloudfront.net/images/2024/3/12/JAM08792.JPEG

[onechance87]

Let castle run the point ffs.Why is he sharing that responsibility with these other trash pgs.

[Obstructed_View]

Cissoko throws it nowhere near the rim again.

[Mugen]

Is this sideline reporter an SNL skit tbh :lol

[Obstructed_View]

And Castle's hurt.

[Mugen]

Castle's handle looks legit. But it might just be bc nobody else on the SL team can dribble.

The fact that he's getting into the paint is good to see but not sure how long that will last when NBA teams inevitably sag off.

[baseline bum]

Dillingham looking pretty invisible for the Spurs tonight para ser honesto

[scott]

Sidy doesn’t look worth wasting anymore time on, tbh. Would have to have to lose Bassey or Mamu to save a roster spot for this trash can

[ace3g]

Another 3 ball for Castle.

[baseline bum]

Let castle run the point ffs.Why is he sharing that responsibility with these other trash pgs.

Getting him ready for Point Sochan: The Sequel

[Obstructed_View]

And Cissoko throws the ball up near the rim. Again.

[ace3g]

Spurs 40-49

Castle draws the foul, going to the line.

[CorrectCrusader]

Castle is the greatest point guard of all time I've seen enough

[Mugen]

Yooo I'll take it all back if Castle hits, that 3 looked smoooth :lol

[scott]

Castle sandbagged his 3PT shot at UCONN just so he could last long enough for the Spurs to take him. CIA Pop

[Obstructed_View]

Fucking Castle.

[cd98]

Castle probably getting that if he doesn't dominate, the Spurs will lose by 50.

[LeBowen]

I've seen enough, trade Tre, Castle is a point guard.
Going to be a two-way star when CP3 is done with him.

[Obstructed_View]

Guess his finger is okay.

[SpursFan86]

Castle kinda reminds me of a taller Steph Curry with elite defense tbh

[Uriel]

Man, if Castle can learn how to hit those 3’s on a consistent basis, he is going to be a star.

[objective]

Castle hits the three .... Shorts Gripping Intensifies

[Obstructed_View]

NOW TAKE GODDAMN BOUIYE OUT OF THE GAME, BALL BOY!

[Dejounte]

Yeah, Castle is going to be a star

[Obstructed_View]

Castle kinda reminds me of a taller Steph Curry with elite defense tbh

Gary Payton Curry

[NASpurs]

Castle does remind me of Fathead Celtic though.

[Uriel]

Castle sandbagged his 3PT shot at UCONN just so he could last long enough for the Spurs to take him. CIA Pop
If he had been a decent to good 3-point shooter in college, he might have been the #1 overall pick.

[Mal]

Nr 19 maybe even worse than nr 31, which is big achievement for scouting department

[Degoat]

#19 is literally just out there to burn calories, nothing else

[cd98]

Basketball Gods have mercy on us. Outside of Castle this is horrendous.

[Mugen]

It's early but I'd say Castle reminds me of prime Tracy McGrady tbh

[NASpurs]

Jake Stephens... interesting looking fella.

[cd98]

Charlotte going on a 20 point run now that Castle is out.

[baseline bum]

Castle kinda reminds me of a taller Steph Curry with elite defense tbh

Like if you took Magic, deleted the AIDS, and added Dennis Johnson's defense.

[baseline bum]

If he had been a decent to good 3-point shooter in college, he might have been the #1 overall pick.

I don't think there is any might about it, Castle with a three point shot would have gone #3 in last year's draft much less #1 in this one.

[Raven]

the castle 3s looked ok, but very blockable

[CorrectCrusader]

Castle just knows how to hoop. Good pick

[Obstructed_View]

Nelson comes in, turns the ball over twice.

[NASpurs]

:lol our big dudes are ass (and guards and forwards, ball boy coach, scouting department...)

[CorrectCrusader]

19 is like a much worse brian scalabrine

[manufor3]

Ingram is not at all suited for the unstructured ball of SL. I think he'll do better in actual game action. But maybe I'm just coping.

[baseline bum]

It's impressive that Castle has a positive +/- with how trash the rest of the team is playing.

[objective]

Sidy unfortunately looks like he hasn't improved at all. More evidence for my "Foreign French Fraud" theory, that posits that French players who don't play in the French league get overrated as they stand out undeservedly compared to if they had just played in France. The FFF was bad news and a red flag for Killian Hayes TLC, Ousmane Didn't among others. Doesn't look good for Sarr either.

Meanwhile if a French player is legit they'll stand out in the French league just fine, like Wemby, Risacher, Salaun, De Cool, Mahinmi etc

Hope Cissoko defies my silly pet theory

[Mr. Body]

They picked these players just so Castle can learn what losing is like.

[Obstructed_View]

Ingram is not at all suited for the unstructured ball of SL. I think he'll do better in actual game action. But maybe I'm just coping.

So glad he's out here instead of whoever they could have picked at 8.

[Dejounte]

https://x.com/spurs/status/1809764536813252800?s=46

[jeebus]

Like if you took Magic, deleted the AIDS, and added Dennis Johnson's defense.
Magic's T-Cells in shambles

[NASpurs]

Castle is probably done for the night :lol

[cd98]

Whoa bad swat. Not good for Nelson.

[Mal]

Nelson Jr is another special find

[Obstructed_View]

Jameer Nelson Jr...is not good.

[Mr. Body]

Gueye is dominating and he'll barely play in the league.

[Degoat]

These refs have been ass

[cd98]

Nelson getting cut for that foul.

[Degoat]

I don’t think Nelson’s that bad, look who he’s playing with lol

[Mr. Body]

Jameer Nelson Jr is like Bronny James if your dad is Jameer Nelson instead of LeBron James.

[NASpurs]

Great foul Jameer Nelson's nutsack juice.

[Mal]

Wasn't this summer league about looking for guys on edge of g-league or even NBA ? Well, outside Castle, noone is giving any indication of talent.

[Dejounte]

https://x.com/n_magaro/status/1809763019431231810?s=46

Traore who? Tbh

[Obstructed_View]

What the fuck are they looking at?

[Obstructed_View]

And Dom Barlow is gone because of these guys?

[jeebus]

Wasn't this summer league about looking for guys on edge of g-league or even NBA ? Well, outside Castle, noone is giving any indication of talent.

It's two fold. Getting your draft picks some reps, and hoping to find something that resembles an NBA player from the bums.

[onechance87]

Our roster have no iq or talent other then castle.Whoever put this team together for the summer should be demoted

[Mal]

It's two fold. Getting your draft picks some reps, and hoping to find something that resembles an NBA player from the bums.

There has to be some indication to even look closer at those guys, and Nelson jr, nr 19, nr 31 are just awful

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR2XU0LWcAAOByU?format=png&name=medium

[Mal]

Some dude who fell off pontoon in the middle of middelterrainan sea is torching them

[cd98]

Seriously not going to play Castle to start the 4th?

[jeebus]

And Dom Barlow is gone because of these guys?

Dom is gone because he fit next to Wemby worse than Collins, and we only need one of those on the team (preferably none).

[Mal]

Nelson Jr may look for other job than basketball.

[Spurs Brazil]

Nelson Jr is bad.

[Dejounte]

Number 17 is what Dillingham would have looked like on defense tbh

[LeBowen]

Good thing team China is there.
Better tell this entire roster to ask to go with them if they're to make a living off basketball.

[Obstructed_View]

So the Spurs put the Toros PG on the team to run the offense, and the offense is massively disjointed. The Spurs don't want to play Castle at PG, even though he is the best passer and the best shooter.

Good plan.