Official 2024 Men's Olympic Basketball Tournament Thread

[MultiTroll]

Fornier what a lame lob for the turnover and US fast break.

[ace3g]

Goaltend count it for Nando!!!

[Dex]

Wemby catches in the post with Holiday on him, and passes back out back out to the three-point line?

Collett has broken this dude's confidence

[heyheymymy]

Man fuck these arrogant bums i hope france goes in that mouth

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUpgncTXkAAG_X8?format=png&name=medium

[SpurPadre]

Was De Culo ever this good for us?!

[Chomag]

I can't stand this USA team...

[Ice009]

What a finish from France. Geez, those free throw misses from Cordinier, though. He's gotta shake himself out of it.

Fucking US showboats after every play. If I were playing, I'd take someone out and get banned unfortunately.

[hater]

Damn Decolo with a vintage performance :wow

[heyheymymy]

Booker shoving a french plyer

Embiid trying to get tangled with gobert twice

Embiid tangled with wemby and knocked his shoe off

Ant going up and laughing in wembys face after that lob finish

Fuck kerr fuck lue fuck curry bron and joe

[Chomag]

Part of me want to see themlose just to see some of that humble pie served to this arrogant USA team

[Mal]

USA have all the talent you can ask for, but they are lack things that would make them a team

[hater]

At least stupid Kerr played Lebronze and Eliancito Gonzales all 3rd quarter :lmao

[BatManu20]

Wemby bricking the piss out of every jumper again

[heyheymymy]

KD acting like he cant be touched or its disrespect

[Ice009]

Darn, Vic missed that one, looked very rushed.

[BatManu20]

I can't stand this USA team...

They're extremely unlikable tbh. But they’re still gonna win.

[Barfunk]

Silver Medal. Not a bad start to Wemby's Olympic career.

[Chomag]

France not going away

[ace3g]

Leave Durant to double Holiday...

[Ice009]

Durant is a killer. Fuck. Big, big shot. Look at that twink Curry. Laughing it up. Must be great having all that talent and no humility to go with it.

[SpurPadre]

Damn, that’s game.

[Dex]

They're extremely unlikable tbh. But they’re still gonna win.

It's cool to watch such a great collection of talent, but yeah...I could do without the showboating AND the whining.

If they make a good play, they act like they are golden gods.

If something goes wrong, they act like someone shit in their cereal.

Shut the fuck up and play basketball.

[BatManu20]

Wemby having a rough second half unfortunately

[SpurPadre]

France doesn’t have the luxury to be missing all those free throws.

[hater]

French fry cuck of a coach sat Batum all 3rd quarter :lmao

[spurs1990]

He took a 30 foot three he's just too young for this

[ace3g]

How do you lose LeBron on defense...

[Ice009]

It's cool to watch such a great collection of talent, but yeah...I could do without the showboating AND the whining.

If they make a good play, they act like they are golden gods.

If something goes wrong, they act like someone shit in their cereal.

Shut the fuck up and play basketball.

Pretty spot on assessment man. Spot on. I really like some of the guys on the US team, but man, tough to watch the way they act.

Nice play Lessort.

[ace3g]

Unnecessary turnover...

[Ice009]

Look at this fucking whining.

[DAF86]

So many turnovers by France.

[ace3g]

Unneccessary turnover again and again...

[SpurPadre]

What a sloppy game.

[Ice009]

Silly turnovers. Darn.

[Ice009]

France's defense is solid when you consider the competition. Need to be better on offense.

[BatManu20]

He took a 30 foot three he's just too young for this

Yea his youth and inexperience has really shown in the Olympics, but it’s a good learning experience for him hopefully. Silver is still great for France, who aren’t a particularly good team and have really overachieved imo.

[ace3g]

Nando sneaky layup.

Yabusele with steal and almost dunk, draws the foul.

[Chinook]

Look at this fucking whining.

Both teams are doing it, a lot.

[Ice009]

You little showboating twink Curry.

[BatManu20]

France is fucking awful at FT’s :lol

[SpurPadre]

If they hadn’t missed all those free throws, who knows?

[ace3g]

Lets Go!!!

[BatManu20]

Wemby with some really awful decision-making this half tbh

[spurs1990]

step back three for a 7 footer smh

[Ice009]

Fucking bomb from Curry. Darn, Victor went for it. Tough miss. Darn.

[Mal]

Wemby with amazing game. I was afraid he may shit the bed, but he has "it"

[Ice009]

Wemby with amazing game. I was afraid he may shit the bed, but he has "it"

No way, I said it yesterday, I knew he was going to bring it. He's a big time player. Maybe not the best decision on some of his shots, but oh well, someone has to go for it.

[hater]

So many missed FTs for Africance


Ce la vi

[Seventyniner]

Wemby takes far too many tough threes. It was fine for a bad Spurs team but it isn't helping his team today.

[Chomag]

Wemby still needs to work on his patience for better shot

[ace3g]

Turnovers, leaving your man to double a non shooter, and missed FTs cost France today.

[hater]

Wemby takes far too many tough threes. It was fine for a bad Spurs team but it isn't helping his team today.

They are not tough 3s

He's just not a very good 3 pt shooter

[Ice009]

Got darn Curry. That is insane.

[Mal]

Steph Curry

[Robz4000]

:lol this team USA is unlikeable as fuck

[Ice009]

Wow, Curry saved them these last two games. Dude showed up and showed out.

Could do without the showboating, though.

[hater]

Eliancito Gonzales for the W tbqh


Ce la vi

[RD2191]

Wemby fucking sucks. Trade his ass.

[Chinook]

Glad to see Davis pushing dirty-ass Fournier's shit in multiple times in the same possession.

[RD2191]

:lol this team USA is unlikeable as fuck

Biggest combination of faggy players I've seen.

[Ice009]

Wemby fucking sucks. Trade his ass.

Are you serious?

[Mal]

omfg steph

[spurs1990]

Curry is top 2 in the GOAT convo and he ain't two

[Seventyniner]

They are not tough 3s

He's just not a very good 3 pt shooter

It's both. His shot can't really be challenged but too often he isn't going vertical or is well behind the line.

That last three he hit was the kind I like seeing. Catch and shoot in rhythm, even though he somehow shot better from 3 off the dribble than on catch and shoot as a rookie in the NBA.

[SpurPadre]

Curry showboats way too much. I wish he were classier. I know it’s a Gold Medal game but he’s always had this showboating to the extreme that people turn a blind eye to, IMO.

[LeBowen]

Younger Team USA members should be embarrassed of themselves, old guys having to carry against mediocre competition.
Hats off to Steph, won two games when it mattered the most.

Also, a few of posters in here who don't even watch Spurs games anymore, but just shit on everything because they have nothing better to do with their life should just end their misery for the sake of everyone.

[itzsoweezee]

Wemby was awesome, but the better team won

[Chomag]

I admire how clutch curry is but damn he makes it hard to be a fan of his with his dancing and flexing around on every single shot

[Chinook]

Nothing wrong with showboating so long as it's not taunting players. It's horrible to make fun of people who are worse than you. But playing to the crowd is just part of the entertainment. Why have Steph Curry if you aren't getting Steph Curry?

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUpmtWsWUAAGFpX?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ice009]

D Wade had a good point, when Victor sets his feet, he usually shoots well.

[TD 21]

:lmao I call these clowns unlikable, end of the world. Others do the same, crickets.

France did about what they could do, but even had Golden Boy (BSPN will have him in the GOAT discussion after this) not continued to progress to the mean, it never felt in doubt.

The good news is these pukes will be gone in 4 years, the bad news it the new Captain America (Edwards) hype will be in overdrive by then.

[ace3g]

Curry had 1 less made 3 (8) than France had total made as a team (9).

[Chomag]

Well congratulations USA! To bad yall are such an unlikable team or this gold medal win would feel so much better

[SpurPadre]

Welp, Manu and Oberto still the only Spur players with a Gold Medal.

[Chinook]

D Wade had a good point, when Victor sets his feet, he usually shoots well.

Wemby needs to clean up a his shot selection, but he goes from great offensively to unguardable when his off-dribble three is going.

[hater]

French coach :lmao :lmao

[Ice009]

82-79, then Curry nailed all those triples. That's tough.

Edit : I should still congratulate team USA. Big semi-finals and finals games against tough competition. It was no cakewalk. They earned it.

[hater]

Wemby needs to clean up a his shot selection, but he goes from great offensively to unguardable when his off-dribble three is going.

It's the Olympics in his home court

Take it easy. He won't be doing that in the spurs, Einstein

[djohn2oo8]

weeping is a bad look
:lol

[hater]

weeping is a bad look

Only for pussies

[Fireball]

Wemby is such a competitor ... he is the youngest there with such a bright career in front of him but he still takes this loss the hardest

[Mal]

Gotta give to Tatum, he took it all this very well, like a pro

[itzsoweezee]

I’m calling it now, the US isn’t winning the gold in 2028

[Chinook]

weeping is a bad look

No it's not. It's how passion turns to growth. He play well and just lost to players who're further along on their journeys that him. He needs to take these losses and learn from them. I don't think there's an emotional response that I'd prefer him have.

[Chinook]

It's the Olympics in his home court

Take it easy. He won't be doing that in the spurs, Einstein

What? He does that with the Spurs all the time.

[Mal]

weeping is a bad look

gtfo

[Chomag]

Wemby is such a class act for someone his age

[Fireball]

I’m calling it now, the US isn’t winning the gold in 2028

if it wasnt on home turf I would jump on this train ... but give it another decade and these tornaments will all be wide open

[SpurPadre]

Feel bad for Wemby. Hope he has another shot or two to get the Gold Medal in 2028 and 2032.

[hater]

What? He does that with the Spurs all the time.

No shit genius

The spurs of today are bottom feeders


He would not do that in a decent team

:lol think bro

[Mal]

Feel bad for Wemby. Hope he has another shot or two to get the Gold Medal in 2028 and 2032.

Look at recent drafts, and how many french guys went top 10. It's gonna be USA - France going forward

[Killakobe81]

Victor had nothing to hang his head or cry about …
He didnt play well in the semifinals but for his FIRST gold medal game he showed up and showed out …
As for you Spur fans especially the Mags ones I know yall wasn’t rooting against team USA?!
lol

[DAF86]

weeping is a bad look

How is being passionate a bad look? :lol

[KDKSpurs24]

Nothing wrong with showboating so long as it's not taunting players. It's horrible to make fun of people who are worse than you. But playing to the crowd is just part of the entertainment. Why have Steph Curry if you aren't getting Steph Curry?

Exactly!! This is exciting stuff to me. Being a Spurs fan and seeing Duncan do things “the right way” has really ruined some of our fan’s enjoyment of entertaining competition. I love my Spurs but man I can really appreciate and enjoy what those guys must be feeling out there. I’m not a talkative person but when I get in the court in pickup a different side of me comes out. It’s not even disrespectful stuff that he’s doing he’s just enjoying competing and playing to the crown. People don’t seem understand that for some reason.

[DAF86]

I’m calling it now, the US isn’t winning the gold in 2028

Wemby is gonna win gold somewhere down the road, book it.

[spurs1990]

No it's not. It's how passion turns to growth. He play well and just lost to players who're further along on their journeys that him. He needs to take these losses and learn from them. I don't think there's an emotional response that I'd prefer him have.

You're right you know. And now that I recall Jordan sobbed uncontrollably on the lockerroom floor after the 1996 ring

[Ice009]

Some good words from curry there in this interview. Coming off pretty humble here. I'm paraphrasing as I don't remember it all (edit : rewound it to get some more of what he said). Get to your spot and be under control. You've taken those shots countless times in the gym. You have a rhythm, just be decisive. You live with the results, there's a lot of faith in it. You just let it go and live with the results, and thankfully the work took over. Some good advice for all players there. Great question from Mike Tirico. Nice honestly on that last one too. That's a heave when you're a little tired, so thankfully it went in.

Definitely something Victor can take away from this experience. He played great at his age and hasn't played in as big of games of some of these US players have. Pretty solid game from Victor.

[LeBowen]

Wemby is gonna win gold somewhere down the road, book it.

His age is ideal for the Olympics because he'll have three more tournaments in his prime.

All he'll need is one all-star teammate and a bunch of good role players. FIBA rules don't require as much star power.

[DAF86]

Exactly!! This is exciting stuff to me. Being a Spurs fan and seeing Duncan do things “the right way” has really ruined some of our fan’s enjoyment of entertaining competition. I love my Spurs but man I can really appreciate and enjoy what those guys must be feeling out there. I’m not a talkative person but when I get in the court in pickup a different side of me comes out. It’s not even disrespectful stuff that he’s doing he’s just enjoying competing and playing to the crown. People don’t seem understand that for some reason.

It's perfectly natural to dislike a guy that's being overly obnoxius, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Look at recent drafts, and how many french guys went top 10. It's gonna be USA - France going forward

Yeah, you’re right, he’ll definitely have a shot or two, health willing.

[mikec]

Love that moment between KD and Wemby.

[Mr. Body]

weeping is a bad look

Says some lardass sitting on his couch.

[Chomag]

AT least now Wemby can come back and start focusing on the Spurs again. It's going to be an exciting season

[SpurPadre]

It's perfectly natural to dislike a guy that's being overly obnoxius, tbh.

Exactly. To each their own but that’s just not my thing and I’m glad Spurs players have never been like that.

[Mr. Body]

The USA is about to crater hard. This is the end of a great US generation. They had to pull lots of guys in their late 30s to win this last Olympic gold. From now on it's the likes of Tatum and Edwards and they're a huuuuuuge drop in talent and overall ability.

When was the last MVP who was American? When was the last American even remotely in the conversation? Need to see a huge infusion of great American players or they're going to get waxed.

[SpurPadre]

Love that moment between KD and Wemby.

It reminded me of that moment when TD had a moment with LeBron when he was young, telling him the league will be his soon. I’m sure Durant said something similar to him.

[TD 21]

I’m calling it now, the US isn’t winning the gold in 2028

Yeah, as I alluded to a few weeks back, obviously far too early, but I'm leaning this way too.


Exactly!! This is exciting stuff to me. Being a Spurs fan and seeing Duncan do things “the right way” has really ruined some of our fan’s enjoyment of entertaining competition. I love my Spurs but man I can really appreciate and enjoy what those guys must be feeling out there. I’m not a talkative person but when I get in the court in pickup a different side of me comes out. It’s not even disrespectful stuff that he’s doing he’s just enjoying competing and playing to the crown. People don’t seem understand that for some reason.

I hate it period but it's even worse when facing competition that's virtually incapable of beating you.

It's why the rest of the world hates the U.S. when it comes to sports (and other things, but I'll stick to the former).

It doesn't have anything to do with winning. The Spurs won plenty and yet many were apathetic towards them.

And no, I'm not old, white, mad or anything else you might be thinking.

[Death In June]

Wemby kept it competitive with essentially an NBA champion level team in a championship level elimination game. That’s all you could have asked for.

[Chinook]

It's why the rest of the world hates the U.S. when it comes to sports (and other things, but I'll stick to the former).

Are you sure I can't interest you in a discussion about US imperialism?

[spurs1990]

i deleted that post. That was a bad look on my part.

I always immediately drift towards coarse/ discourteous comments after a San Antonio player doesn't perform exceedingly. Won't happen again.

[Mugen]

Trash ass Gobert. Shoulda just let old ass Porky get his spot tbh.

[Limguogolo]

Mathias Lessort: 10 minutes
Coulibaly: 21 minutes


WTF, what are these game times? Collet forgot to scout his own team's last two games, or what?


Team USA wanted to win a gold medal. Vincent Collet thought it was a jubilee to honor his old friends on the team who hadn't played for two games and two victories.


I'm not against losing against Team USA, but at least we play basketball instead of handing out invitation cards to our old friends. What were Coulibaly, De Colo and Gobert doing on the floor? Congratulations to a collectively mediocre USA team, saved by three exceptional players who will no longer be there in LA. It was the last dance. Collet should retire, we're reaching the end.

[siraulo23]

Wemby played well

France needed him to play out of this world, and a couple more perimeter players to hit a few more threes

They were right there but Curry just went nuclear at the end, ggs

[Chinook]

The USANT is in no danger to not being the most talented team in the world. Even France is going to have multiple non-NBA players on their roster in 2028 and 2032. The US has a giant population and focuses on basketball as one of their main sports. The talent pool is just much deeper than anything other countries can match. Of course, other teams like France may well have the best top players. But the new FIBA rules are going to prevent them from having the consecutive years of summer player Argentina and other national teams used to be able to use to build chemistry. The best players for all national teams are going to be in the NBA and thus locked out of most qualifier tournaments. Team USA more than most can pull guys from the same NBA team to add some instant chemistry. They've done this in 2021 and 2024 so far. As they move from being an All-Star roster to having to build a functional roster, they should be adding elite role-players like White, Holiday and Milddleton. They'll still have plenty of those to choose from.

If the USANT doesn't adapt its team-building and coaching to take advantage of the legs up it will still have, they will probably suffer a string of losses over the next six or eight years. If they do adapt, they'll continue to be a heavy favorite, albeit one with a much smaller margin for error.

[ace3g]

Trash ass Gobert. Shoulda just let old ass Porky get his spot tbh.

I would have replaced Gobert with Diaw.

[Pauleta14]

The penultimate 3 Wemby took (and missed) was the key moment to keep it 1 possession

And FUCK YOU COLETTE (this mf will still be in place and France's main handicap in 4 years)

[RD2191]

Wemby played well

France needed him to play out of this world, and a couple more perimeter players to hit a few more threes

They were right there but Curry just went nuclear at the end, ggs

Would've had a chance to steal at the end if they hadn't bricked so many free throws tbh

[Maddog]

Trash ass Gobert. Shoulda just let old ass Porky get his spot tbh.
yep
and he and KAT are getting older
Spurs can swap pics in 31

[spurraider21]

The USANT is in no danger to not being the most talented team in the world. Even France is going to have multiple non-NBA players on their roster in 2028 and 2032. The US has a giant population and focuses on basketball as one of their main sports. The talent pool is just much deeper than anything other countries can match. Of course, other teams like France may well have the best top players. But the new FIBA rules are going to prevent them from having the consecutive years of summer player Argentina and other national teams used to be able to use to build chemistry. The best players for all national teams are going to be in the NBA and thus locked out of most qualifier tournaments. Team USA more than most can pull guys from the same NBA team to add some instant chemistry. They've done this in 2021 and 2024 so far. As they move from being an All-Star roster to having to build a functional roster, they should be adding elite role-players like White, Holiday and Milddleton. They'll still have plenty of those to choose from.

If the USANT doesn't adapt its team-building and coaching to take advantage of the legs up it will still have, they will probably suffer a string of losses over the next six or eight years. If they do adapt, they'll continue to be a heavy favorite, albeit one with a much smaller margin for error.
What are these new rules?

[Ice009]

Wemby played well

France needed him to play out of this world, and a couple more perimeter players to hit a few more threes

They were right there but Curry just went nuclear at the end, ggs

Yeah. I would have loved to have seen an alternate reality version of the game at 82-79 if Steph didn't hit those threes. France were right there, but can't go back in time. Maybe Steph hits those shots again anyway.

Team USA is still the strongest. I thought I heard the next Olympics is in LA? If so, they gotta be favourites again. The world has caught up, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're close to being better.

[ace3g]

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/21/33/76/21348226/7/rawImage.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUpx4w7WEAA4pM6?format=jpg&name=medium

[ace3g]

https://x.com/FIBA/status/1822392716518646077

[Chinook]

What are these new rules?

Basically qualifying tourneys happen during the NBA season. That's was going on when d-leaguers were losing to random teams over the past few years. Back in the day, all those tournaments were during the summer, so players like Manu could play every off-season with their national teams. The thing that used to give teams a punchers' chance back when the USA had a wider lead in elite talent is that guys on other squads would play together almost every year where the USA stars treated it like a one-year commitment. Now, the WC and Olympics and the immediate qualifying tournaments that are hosted in the lead-up to those tournaments, are the only times NBA players from any country can participate. This used to be a huge boon the rest of the world had over the US, since overseas league often paused for those tournaments. But now that so much of the elite talent is the NBA regardless of talent, it's more of a shared burden.

The idea of Wemby, Traore, Sarr and Risacher playing constantly for the FNT like Tony and Boris used to is a little outdated. If USA Basketball builds its roster carefully, they should be able to use those rules to gain a chemistry advantage.

EDIT to add a link to the qualifiers schedule to show what I'm talking about: https://www.fiba.basketball/mens-calendar/qualifiers

[DAF86]

The USANT is in no danger to not being the most talented team in the world. Even France is going to have multiple non-NBA players on their roster in 2028 and 2032. The US has a giant population and focuses on basketball as one of their main sports. The talent pool is just much deeper than anything other countries can match. Of course, other teams like France may well have the best top players. But the new FIBA rules are going to prevent them from having the consecutive years of summer player Argentina and other national teams used to be able to use to build chemistry. The best players for all national teams are going to be in the NBA and thus locked out of most qualifier tournaments. Team USA more than most can pull guys from the same NBA team to add some instant chemistry. They've done this in 2021 and 2024 so far. As they move from being an All-Star roster to having to build a functional roster, they should be adding elite role-players like White, Holiday and Milddleton. They'll still have plenty of those to choose from.

If the USANT doesn't adapt its team-building and coaching to take advantage of the legs up it will still have, they will probably suffer a string of losses over the next six or eight years. If they do adapt, they'll continue to be a heavy favorite, albeit one with a much smaller margin for error.

The talent gap will keep getting smaller and smaller, though.

I don't think it is crazy to imagine a scenario where France could field a more talented 5 man unit than team US in 4 or 8 years, tbh.

[Chinook]

The talent gap will keep getting smaller and smaller, though.

I don't think it is crazy to imagine a scenario where France could field a more talented 5 man unit than team US in 4 or 8 years, tbh.

I think that's very possible. My point is that the NBA being an American league that hosts almost all of the best players in the world means the USANT might be the team that uses familiarity and strategy to overcome another team's elite talent. It's about them finding the right guys and getting them to buy in to a long-term commitment for represent the USA instead of doing what they've done historically but with non-superstars masquerading as their iconic counterparts. The USA isn't good enough to let guys stroll onto their roster whenever it's fashionable, but they'll be the only team in the world that fields 12 NBA player for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't be surprised to see even France have 8 or fewer in 2028.

[hater]

Great game for Wemby

I'd say his Olympic run was a great success


Just like his 1st season in NBA :tu


Things are looking promising

Sing up the dancing bear and let's go to Wembys season 2 :tu

[Ice009]

I would love to see Yabu on the Spurs.

[Arcadian]

That was the most exciting Olympics I've seen, with both the semifinal and final being tightly contested. France kept it within reach throughout.

Wemby showed up today. He was the leading scorer in a game full of NBA all-stars. This should help to elevate his reputation even further.

[Ice009]

I said he would. I believed he would, and he did. There is nothing I saw from him during the Spurs season that didn't make me think anything but him being a big game player. Even if his shot didn't fall, I thought he'd bring it tonight regardless of fatigue or any other physical ailments (he could have been banged up in previous games and not been at his best physically these past few games).

[SpurPadre]

Too bad Risacher and Sarr weren’t selected.

[SpurPadre]

I would love to see Yabu on the Spurs.

It looks like the Celtics still have the rights to him?

[Chinook]

It looks like the Celtics still have the rights to him?

No. He was waived. But he's also a fringe NBA player. He'd be at the end of the rotation if at all.

[KDKSpurs24]

In 4 years USA should still have a really good player pool to choose from obviously. I can see everyone wanting to play/tryout for this one considering it’s in their home country.

GUARDS - Morant, Ant, Booker, Brown, Maxey, Cunningham, Brunson, Haliburton, Fox, Mitchell, JGreen, Bane

FORWARDS - Tatum, Banchero, Zion, Flagg, Barnes, JWilliams, KMurray

CENTERS - Chet, Bam, AD, Mobley, JJJ, Turner, Claxton

Pick the RIGHT combination of these players and if they have the mindset and adapts the rules it should be another gold. This isn’t even including some potential players that make a crazy leap that we won’t see coming. Hell, I’m rooting for our Spurs boys Castle and Vassell to make that kind of leap!

[r0drig0lac]

https://x.com/FIBA/status/1822406332743340169

[mikec]

As they move from being an All-Star roster to having to build a functional roster, they should be adding elite role-players like White, Holiday and Milddleton. They'll still have plenty of those to choose from.

If the USANT doesn't adapt its team-building and coaching to take advantage of the legs up it will still have, they will probably suffer a string of losses over the next six or eight years. If they do adapt, they'll continue to be a heavy favorite, albeit one with a much smaller margin for error.

This. Can't bring a team of 12 all stars again. Say we start with a mix of Ja Morant, Jalen Brunson, Tyrese Maxey, Jalen Williams, Paolo Banchero, Haliburton, Jaylen Brown, Chet, ?Cooper Flag. Hope one of AD/Bam/Embiid return. Elite role players to plug in: Josh Hart, Aaron Gordon, Jaden Mcdaniels, Herb Jones, Trey Murphy, Keegan Murray, Jabari Smith, Desmond Bane, Jaren Jackson Jr. That's a team favored for gold.

[mikec]

That was the most exciting Olympics I've seen, with both the semifinal and final being tightly contested. France kept it within reach throughout.

Wemby showed up today. He was the leading scorer in a game full of NBA all-stars. This should help to elevate his reputation even further.

Agreed. Spectacular semi finals games and the gold medal game was outstanding.

[Uriel]

Hopefully Wemby takes a month off and is eased into training camp so he can be ready for the season. That tournament must’ve been physically, emotionally, and mentally exhausting for him.

[The Truth #6]

Concur about building a team. The flip side is with less stars then they at times back out and the chemistry is weak and you get worst of both worlds: less talent, less chemistry. But building an actual team should still be the goal.

[TD 21]

Off the top, this is the top youngish or young established talent: Young, Brown, Tatum, Ball, Miller, Mitchell, Mobley, Cunningham, Smith Jr., Haliburton, Bane, Jackson Jr., Morant, Adebayo, Edwards, Bridges, Brunson, Williamson, Holmgren, Williams, Banchero, Suggs, Maxey, Booker, Fox, Barnes.

Again, unparalleled depth, but no current MVP caliber or one on the horizon. Even if someone like Edwards wins one in the future, I mean more so by "catch-all" metrics.

With what France and Canada in particular have coming to potentially solve their biggest issues, it's not hard to envision a scenario where they're in a "nip and tuck" elimination game and Wembanyama's or Gilgeous-Alexander's MVP caliber impacts wins the day.

[Barfunk]

As for you Spur fans especially the Mags ones I know yall wasn’t rooting against team USA?!
lol

Lmao

[Pauleta14]

Guershon Yabusele should be in the tournament starting 5 (instead of Schröder)

He was the real French MVP

[Pauleta14]

Hopefully Wemby takes a month off and is eased into training camp so he can be ready for the season. That tournament must’ve been physically, emotionally, and mentally exhausting for him.

When is the Spurs's training camp starting?

[John B]

In 4 years USA should still have a really good player pool to choose from obviously. I can see everyone wanting to play/tryout for this one considering it’s in their home country.

GUARDS - Morant, Ant, Booker, Brown, Maxey, Cunningham, Brunson, Haliburton, Fox, Mitchell, JGreen, Bane

FORWARDS - Tatum, Banchero, Zion, Flagg, Barnes, JWilliams, KMurray

CENTERS - Chet, Bam, AD, Mobley, JJJ, Turner, Claxton

Pick the RIGHT combination of these players and if they have the mindset and adapts the rules it should be another gold. This isn’t even including some potential players that make a crazy leap that we won’t see coming. Hell, I’m rooting for our Spurs boys Castle and Vassell to make that kind of leap!

In 4 years, LeBron, Durant and Curry will no longer. The last two Olympic golds were thanks to KD and, this year, Curry’s heroics. Plus more and more international players are getting much better. The last 3 MVP’s are international and not counting Doncic and Wemby. It’s going to be tough. But 2028 playing in front of a home crowd would help.

[scott]

Personally I think Team USA should just send the defending NBA Champs, with them filling in any international players with whomever they want. I wonder how the Celtics + one of Embiid/AD/Bam filling in for Dingas would fare.

[KDKSpurs24]

Personally I think Team USA should just send the defending NBA Champs, with them filling in any international players with whomever they want. I wonder how the Celtics + one of Embiid/AD/Bam filling in for Dingas would fare.

I personally prefer a mix of players BUT for your last sentence, Celtics with AD instead of Porzingis would definitely win gold. Im already a believer that the Celtics would have beaten any team in the Olympics. Why? Not only are they the champs and had a great record, they played over 100 games with each other as well. They’d be far ahead of the other teams when it comes to chemistry.

[Seventyniner]

Personally I think Team USA should just send the defending NBA Champs, with them filling in any international players with whomever they want. I wonder how the Celtics + one of Embiid/AD/Bam filling in for Dingas would fare.

That's fine for the 2024 Celtics, but imagine sending the 2023 Nuggets without Jokic. Even replacing him with the best replacement center (Embiid or Davis) would result in a much different, and likely much worse, team. Similarly with the 2021 Bucks.

[Mr. Body]

Those of you who think the US will be in great shape in four years... the eked things out four years ago at Tokyo. They placed fourth last year at the world cup.

They were getting killed by Serbia in the semi-final before LeBron and others started beasting. If Curry doesn't go HAM this game? It's within a possession or two.

The US needed all-time players to generate close wins. When they're out of Durant, Curry, LeBron, they're going to cough up a gold.

[BackHome]

Nah players will step up and will definitely get Gold in LA.

[MultiTroll]

Personally I think Team USA should just send the defending NBA Champs, with them filling in any international players with whomever they want. I wonder how the Celtics + one of Embiid/AD/Bam filling in for Dingas would fare.
Do one better and send the 1st 7 players on the NBA Champ team and then fill in the other 7 spots with All NBA ballas.

Take that World.

[JPB]

In 4 years USA should still have a really good player pool to choose from obviously. I can see everyone wanting to play/tryout for this one considering it’s in their home country.

GUARDS - Morant, Ant, Booker, Brown, Maxey, Cunningham, Brunson, Haliburton, Fox, Mitchell, JGreen, Bane

FORWARDS - Tatum, Banchero, Zion, Flagg, Barnes, JWilliams, KMurray

CENTERS - Chet, Bam, AD, Mobley, JJJ, Turner, Claxton

Pick the RIGHT combination of these players and if they have the mindset and adapts the rules it should be another gold. This isn’t even including some potential players that make a crazy leap that we won’t see coming. Hell, I’m rooting for our Spurs boys Castle and Vassell to make that kind of leap!

I do'nt beleive that roster win this year. They don't even get past Serbia.

I guess they could finsd other ways but remove Curry this year and they might not win. They needed all of Lebron (top 2 in history) /Durant/Curry (best shooter in history) to get it done.

[JPB]

Nothing wrong with showboating so long as it's not taunting players. It's horrible to make fun of people who are worse than you. But playing to the crowd is just part of the entertainment. Why have Steph Curry if you aren't getting Steph Curry?

This is the Olympics, not the NBA. That's just not the spirit and honestly doesn't make you look good.

[Limguogolo]

Too bad Risacher and Sarr weren’t selected.
They are prospects, not elite players. Even Coulibaly should not have been selected and only owes his presence to being a friend of Collet. The best player not selected is Hifi, by far, with Mouss Fall. Just a year ago, Risacher and Sarr were role players in the young French team, they are far from being useful in a collective.

[Brazil]

Tbh ima have to side with Brazil (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14466) on this one

the French are the recognized authority on the subject of capitulation

:lol

[Bruno]

Olympic basketball tournament was fun to follow with a lot of high level close games. USA were the better team and deserved that win, props to them.

French NT did way better than expected. Their future should be fine with a lot of talented players born between 2002 and 2006 to play alongside Wembanyama.

[Brazil]

Hopefully Wemby takes a month off and is eased into training camp so he can be ready for the season. That tournament must’ve been physically, emotionally, and mentally exhausting for him.

+100000

i was really worried by an eventual injury tbh… but the kid is awesome, he had his best game in final and get out healthy… we are blessed. Now time to sleep and enjoy a break

[spurs10]

Well the most highly paid millionaire basketball players in the world won the Gold. No surprises. Jim Thorpe lost all his Olympic medals when they found out he had earned about $50 playing baseball for a summer. New age.

[CGD]

Next Olympics should be interesting. Unclear who “the next man up” is for the US, though, they should still be able to field a greater number of great player than any other team. That’s their biggest asset.

Serbia is good but not sure what their younger crop is looking like. Are they another 2016 Spain or 2008 Argentina, or are they gonna keep it going?

Germany and Canada look good on paper, but the way they ended this tournament left a lot of questions.

France is the best positioned to beat the US by far. That young pipeline look promising.

[Chinook]

This is the Olympics, not the NBA. That's just not the spirit and honestly doesn't make you look good.

This is a sporting event, not a UN summit. Don't have a cheering (and booing) crowd there if you don't want guys to play to it. When Yabusele or Wemby starts beating their chests to the crowd, it's fine, but when Curry and James do it, it's unprofessional?

[widowmaker]

Turnovers, leaving your man to double a non shooter, and missed FTs cost France today.


It reminds me of the spurs defense too many double teams for no reason.

[heyheymymy]

The REAL Team USA Basketball is playing now 8:30 AM CST

[Pauleta14]

Personally I think Team USA should just send the defending NBA Champs, with them filling in any international players with whomever they want. I wonder how the Celtics + one of Embiid/AD/Bam filling in for Dingas would fare.

I think the Celtics would't have reach the final 4

Just bc of their lack of bigs and the adaptation of the FIBA rules

With just one decent PG France could've won it and Serbia (best team of the Olympics imo) beat themselves in the 4thQT (0/10 on 3s)

[heyheymymy]

Showboating is different than just showing emotion

People don't wanna see shoulder popping insufferable douches I guess

[Chinook]

Showboating is different than just showing emotion

People don't wanna see shoulder popping insufferable douches I guess

Some people have a problem with Curry. Given his massive popularity most don't.

[Dex]

USA Women tied 25-25 at halftime. Looking kinda sloppy out there

[Ice009]

Showboating is different than just showing emotion

People don't wanna see shoulder popping insufferable douches I guess

I don't understand why people can't see the difference. I have no problem with showing emotion like Manu used to, or some of the other players in these Olympics.
I also had no problem at all with Lebron showing emotion, but guys like Curry and Edwards are rubbing it in IMO (that's how it comes off to me - maybe it's not how they intend it, but that's how I perceive it). Edwards laughed at the French players after that lob dunk pass.

[Pauleta14]

The refs are helping the US team A LOT

[spurraider21]

The refs are helping the US team A LOT
:lmao

[heyheymymy]

Some people have a problem with Curry. Given his massive popularity most don't.

I should back pedal a bit here and say hats off to Curry and Team USA Men's basketball. Just a powerhouse dream team roster and honestly kinda badass how staggering the talent was. They won convincingly and you just gotta tip your cap. The better team won.

Curry is obnoxious and I will say that I personally do view the Olympics as more hallowed or whatever so I had a problem with the mix there of this kind of revered tradition and the brash American attitudes of Curry and a few others. It doesn't help that I'm a Spurs fan and so those teams are always full of players I hate anyways because of NBA drama that bleeds over lol. Always rooted for Argentina and now I guess it's France because somehow San Antonio Spurs > Team USA in my mind.

I do love DWhite glad to see him get gold! Holiday is one cool player got tons of respect for him. Bam is cool. Shit, Ant and Booker are punks but I absolutely love it. Huge difference between cheeky confidence and arrogant.

Fuck Curry, AD, Bron, KD, Kerr, Lue, and fuck Joel (strictly basketball, don't give a shit about the nationality debate). Spolstra actually seems pretty chill just sleazy.

But I will say god damn Curry, Bron and KD were lethal out there. Pretty cool to see them get that swan song tbh. And I do like Curry's career barring the KD era which I refuse to recognize. Built not bought, elite home grown talent, dynasty franchise. You have to respect what Curry did and he's going down as a total GOAT. The 2022 prove it ring was the cherry on top. Curry took over in one of those 22 Finals games to put the nail in the coffin on BOS not unlike the Serbia and France game performances of his this week. Curry should've been the MVP imho. Sure there were some easy path debates but you can't shake Curry's legacy.

You could kinda tell this Olympics meant a lot to Bron and Curry somewhat for KD too. Bron's still elite but nearly 40 and time is undefeated. Curry just broke up his band and wants to prove he can fill seats solo. Just a lot to prove for these guys and they showed up.

Also was thinking it's gotta be an incredible summer for White, Holiday and Tatum lol. Jeez these dudes touched so much gold in one summer, LOB and Olympic Gold in the span of two months. And didn't Holiday do just that in 2021 too with the Bucks ring plus Tokyo?

[Pauleta14]

:lmao

I was expecting a home cooking tbh, hence my surprise :lol

[Pauleta14]

Some people have a problem with Curry. Given his massive popularity most don't.

You can have massive respect and admiration for his game, but find his constant disrespect of his opponents pathetic and lacking class.

You'd neve see MJ, Kobe or any of the greatest behave that way

[Dex]

That was a damn good game

France one half-step away from sending it into overtime on a miracle heave

[Pauleta14]

What a crushing ending

Congats to those ladies, the made us proud

[Chinook]

You can have massive respect and admiration for his game, but find his constant disrespect of his opponents pathetic and lacking class.

You'd neve see MJ, Kobe or any of the greatest behave that way

Curry is one of the greatest. Lebron is one of the greatest. So yeah, we definitely see some behave that way. MJ and Kobe disrespected the game far more with their off-court shit than anyone on Team USA this year.

[TD 21]

This is what I mean by the inherent advantages Golden Boy enjoys. You say anything negative about him or attempt to contextualize him and you're a "hater" or "not appreciating greatness". Where's this crap when it comes to Bryant, James, Durant, etc.?

He can simultaneously be one of the all time talents and a little puke who has had a silver spoon the majority of his career.


The REAL Team USA Basketball is playing now 8:30 AM CST

I admit I'm late to this party, so maybe I've missed something that proves otherwise, but from what I've seen, this is how you conduct yourself (especially when your performance doesn't measure up to the talent differential).

[heyheymymy]

Breanna with that deflection was huge

[heyheymymy]

Crucial win for Team USA Women's basketball since I think we're down like 2 golds on China

[Pauleta14]

Curry is one of the greatest. Lebron is one of the greatest. So yeah, we definitely see some behave that way. MJ and Kobe disrespected the game far more with their off-court shit than anyone on Team USA this year.

1- I never argued their greatness, I acknowledged it. Not the point

2- MJ or Kobe NEVER behaved that way unless they had to answer a provocation/agression. It's called class and respect, it's part of the education that clearly a huge part of the new generation in the US lacks

3- Quite surprising that a Spurs fan, who I assume admires the Admiral and TD or the Spurs's way in general, would defend those type of behavior...

[Chinook]

1- I never argued their greatness, I acknowledged it. Not the point

2- MJ or Kobe NEVER behaved that way unless they had to answer a provocation/agression. It's called class and respect, it's part of the education that clearly a huge part of the new generation in the US lacks

3- Quite surprising that a Spurs fan, who I assume admires the Admiral and TD or the Spurs's way in general, would defend those type of behavior...

1 - the point is they are part of the sample of greats. They don't have to try to emulate Kobe or Jordan. They are themselves worthy of emulation.

2 - No, they just gambled and assaulted women. So classy of them.

3 - It's not surprising that despite being a Spurs fan, I'm not so puritan in my ways that I can't accept and appreciate greats who do things differently. I'm quite secure in my fandom. The Spurs gave as good as they got from Kobe, James and Curry. I see no reason to hold hard feelings about any of them.

[Ice009]

What a crushing ending

Congats to those ladies, the made us proud

Wow, I wasn't able to watch it. Just looked at the score. Is the French women's team that good, or did they just play their best today and almost pulled the upset?

[JPB]

This is a sporting event, not a UN summit. Don't have a cheering (and booing) crowd there if you don't want guys to play to it. When Yabusele or Wemby starts beating their chests to the crowd, it's fine, but when Curry and James do it, it's unprofessional?

It's not the chest bumping bit how they touted the french players and the crowd (and you got to understand you're on a foreign country in the Olympics).

But tbh, people already say Curry is very obnoxious and full of himself in the NBA, and I never liked his attitude/demeanor (not to mention the tooth stuff chewing which is kind of gross if you ask me), so just saying.

A bit of class never hurts, specially when you're the best.

[TD 21]

These are the same old, irrelevant defenses for this type of putrid behavior.

It doesn't matter how great one is or that they're allowed to do so, it doesn't make it any less deplorable and I don't see what off court behavior has to do with on court decorum.


A bit of class never hurts, specially when you're the best.

It's even worse when you're playing teams with one player who could make yours, barely holding them off and then acting as if you overcame something.

[KDKSpurs24]

It's even worse when you're playing teams with one player who could make yours, barely holding them off and then acting as if you overcame something.

Now let’s not act like it’s not a huge accomplishment to sacrifice and fill in role player roles when you’re not used to being one. Seems like everyone doesn’t understand how handicapped these guys are having to go from being THE GUY on their teams to trying to do stuff they are uncomfortable doing. Team USA can’t “out role player” these TEAMS full of role players after just a few weeks of trying to learn to play with each other. And those teams were playing out of their minds against USA with supreme focus because they wanted to win so badly. They didn’t have any pressure because they were expected to lose. It’s crazy that people don’t realize this. This is not gonna be easy anymore like in 1992 when other countries were in awe of NBA players and barely even wanted to touch them because of how much they feared and respected them. That ship has sailed now. So hell yes they can start celebrating and being proud of winning because it’s going to be tough from here on out.

[R. DeMurre]

I'm not a fan of the "night night" move or the "too short" taunt that's so popular now, or Bogdanovic's three to the dome thing that he got from Melo, but I feel like I can separate that from the players themselves. These are uber competitive athletes in the heat of the moment. I was trying to think of an analogy for this type of thing in another area, and the one that came to mind was Bill Burr's and Dave Chappelle's comedy. I think they're both funny as hell, but there are definitely times when they each cross the line-- and it's ok to say there are individual jokes that you don't especially love while still saying they're great comedians. Just like basketball has that ultra competitive element that pushes players to behave a certain way, comedy has that provocateur angle that encourages pushing the envelope and harping on taboo subjects, and it'd be impossible to always dance around that line of what's considered appropriate in most settings without ever crossing it. It's possible to dislike some things that Curry, Lebron, Bogdan, and others do but still admire them as great basketball players.

[Pauleta14]

1 - the point is they are part of the sample of greats. They don't have to try to emulate Kobe or Jordan. They are themselves worthy of emulation.

2 - No, they just gambled and assaulted women. So classy of them.

3 - It's not surprising that despite being a Spurs fan, I'm not so puritan in my ways that I can't accept and appreciate greats who do things differently. I'm quite secure in my fandom. The Spurs gave as good as they got from Kobe, James and Curry. I see no reason to hold hard feelings about any of them.

1- Who talked about "emulating MJ or Kobe"?? The point from the start is that 2 truths can coexist, their greatness on the floor and some critics on their behaviours.

2- How is that relevant in any way with what's happening on a basketball court or behaviour vs opponents? (the topic of the convo iirc)

I could've used dozens of fomer greats, none are known to lack class when they... won! It's a new behaviour, let's not act as if it's always been that way.

that's the worst part, u can excuse/understand sore losing, but telling the team u just beat, you were heavily favorite against, full of euro players, some without contracts and a kid/best player not allowed to drink alchool yet in the US, to go to sleep... is at best cringe but 100% unnecessary and unclassy

3- Why go to that extreme? Puritan?? :lol U don't have to have extremists views to dislike unnecessary trash talking in national teams competitions (it's not the NBA/club's competitions)

+ It had nothing to do with Spurs competing vs Lakers or Wariors but Spurs historically acting and teaching the right way. I'm not talking about Pop's political/woke views, I'm talking about behaving the right way on and off the court, getting over your ego and globally acting in a classy way.

That's litterally what Spurs are known for and attracted me as a non Texan/US kid

[Pauleta14]

Wow, I wasn't able to watch it. Just looked at the score. Is the French women's team that good, or did they just play their best today and almost pulled the upset?

I don't follow them much, but watching their semi vs Belgium, I expected grit but not that kind of beautiful play tbh

Waaaayy better than the men's basketball wise, (point) guards play, rotations, passing, shooting... wow

I was really impressed

Maybe it was just the US being bad, I don't know enough to say

[ace3g]

OT but I forgot about this from 2023 // Yabusele vs Exum

https://x.com/kendallbaker/status/1651772839899308032

[R. DeMurre]

It's kinda crazy to think that Phoenix has two guys on Team USA who both performed really well, but they're still rarely mentioned as challengers for a title next year. I think adding Tyus Jones was a great move for them, and if Ryan Dunn's great D/absence of shooting is going to work anywhere, Phoenix is probably one of the best candidates.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/yabusele28/status/1822671574975033375

[Dex]

https://x.com/yabusele28/status/1822671574975033375

Sorry, we can't part ways with David Duke Jr.

[Dex]

It's kinda crazy to think that Phoenix has two guys on Team USA who both performed really well, but they're still rarely mentioned as challengers for a title next year. I think adding Tyus Jones was a great move for them, and if Ryan Dunn's great D/absence of shooting is going to work anywhere, Phoenix is probably one of the best candidates.

The problem with Phoenix is they are literally a three-man crew. They put ALL of their money into Booker, Durant, and Beal...which seems like a decent big three on paper, but they have no depth.

Durant and Beal are getting older and have been injury-prone, so all it will take is one strained hamstring or sprained ankle to derail their playoff hopes

[Ice009]

OT but I forgot about this from 2023 // Yabusele vs Exum

https://x.com/kendallbaker/status/1651772839899308032

Darn, no idea why I can't see these tweet. I have to do what Exstatic said and click reply and then I see the link.

Man Guerschon picked up Dante and slammed him to the ground. Looks like he's not afraid of a bit of a scuffle ;).



https://x.com/yabusele28/status/1822671574975033375

Wow. So I am guessing he definitely wants to come to the NBA? I wonder what his contract status in Spain is (when does their season start?), and does he have an opt out if an NBA team wants to sign him, or is he locked in and can't leave? Not sure how EU contracts work.

[TD 21]

Now let’s not act like it’s not a huge accomplishment to sacrifice and fill in role player roles when you’re not used to being one. Seems like everyone doesn’t understand how handicapped these guys are having to go from being THE GUY on their teams to trying to do stuff they are uncomfortable doing. Team USA can’t “out role player” these TEAMS full of role players after just a few weeks of trying to learn to play with each other. And those teams were playing out of their minds against USA with supreme focus because they wanted to win so badly. They didn’t have any pressure because they were expected to lose. It’s crazy that people don’t realize this. This is not gonna be easy anymore like in 1992 when other countries were in awe of NBA players and barely even wanted to touch them because of how much they feared and respected them. That ship has sailed now. So hell yes they can start celebrating and being proud of winning because it’s going to be tough from here on out.

:lmao Are you serious? This is the definition of first world problems. Instead of choosing from a menu of All-NBA and All-Star caliber players, try having to rely on washed Fournier or De Colo as your primary ball handler in "crunch time" of the gold medal game.

If you can space the floor or vertically space and be neutral or greater defensively, then it really just comes down to being willing to subjugate your ego. That's made easier by the fact that they know it going in due to the talent and that they're virtually guaranteed gold. Also, many of them either will never win another NBA championship or won't win one period.

Sure, it's not as easy as '92, but let's not act like it took a herculean effort either. If anything, they should be embarrassed at the relative struggle in some of the games.


It's kinda crazy to think that Phoenix has two guys on Team USA who both performed really well, but they're still rarely mentioned as challengers for a title next year. I think adding Tyus Jones was a great move for them, and if Ryan Dunn's great D/absence of shooting is going to work anywhere, Phoenix is probably one of the best candidates.

In secondary roles over a relatively small sample size. Durant's MVP caliber days are over, Booker's never began, Beal's All-Star caliber days are a thing of the past and they're a small, defensively challenged team that lacks athleticism and volume 3-point shooting.

[Bruno]

Wow. So I am guessing he definitely wants to come to the NBA? I wonder what his contract status in Spain is (when does their season start?), and does he have an opt out if an NBA team wants to sign him, or is he locked in and can't leave? Not sure how EU contracts work.

https://x.com/TheSteinLine/status/1822711196077752388

If Spurs want him, which I'm doubting, they still have the room exception to sign him.

[Ice009]

https://x.com/TheSteinLine/status/1822711196077752388

If Spurs want him, which I'm doubting, they still have the room exception to sign him.

Do you think he's a player worth adding to the team, or not really?

[Uriel]

Who would win in a 7-game series: Team USA or the Celtics?

I say Team USA probably still, but in 6 games.

[Pauleta14]

Who would win in a 7-game series: Team USA or the Celtics?

I say Team USA probably still, but in 6 games.

Celtics have to inside game, key in FIBA bb, they'd get eaten alive in the Olympics

[mudyez]

As much as I believe Yabusele can be an NBA player, he just doesn't fit our roster (he is no real upgrade over Barnes, Keldon, Julian, Sochan, Mamu). It only could be used as a favour to Wemby or in order to build a French Spurs lineup (eg if we get Traore and others).

[MannyIsGod]

You can have massive respect and admiration for his game, but find his constant disrespect of his opponents pathetic and lacking class.

You'd neve see MJ, Kobe or any of the greatest behave that way

Is this a joke?

[MannyIsGod]

1- I never argued their greatness, I acknowledged it. Not the point

2- MJ or Kobe NEVER behaved that way unless they had to answer a provocation/agression. It's called class and respect, it's part of the education that clearly a huge part of the new generation in the US lacks

3- Quite surprising that a Spurs fan, who I assume admires the Admiral and TD or the Spurs's way in general, would defend those type of behavior...

Oh you were being serious I see. MJ and Kobe both belitted far more opponents than Curry and I'm a bit shocked this is even an argument that you're making because it's so.detatched from reality. MJ literally kept Isiah Thomas off the dream team because he was so petty.

[Pauleta14]

Is this a joke?

Be my guest, find me one example of them trash talking after a win vs a team that has no beef nor history with them

[Pauleta14]

Oh you were being serious I see. MJ and Kobe both belitted far more opponents than Curry and I'm a bit shocked this is even an argument that you're making because it's so.detatched from reality. MJ literally kept Isiah Thomas off the dream team because he was so petty.

MJ had a personal pb wit Isiah who btw was the one that started it by asking his allsatr teammates not to pass the ball to MJ during his 1st ASG

Find me just 1 ex of a trash talk from MJ or Kobe unprovoked... Especially as veterans that Curry or Lebron are

[Bruno]

Do you think he's a player worth adding to the team, or not really?

I think he is worth adding to a NBA team but not Spurs.

Yabusele is a true good player. He isn't just a player who was good for a week during the Olympic tournament. He has been a very good player in Europe for years.

However, the fit with Spurs is so-so. His pairing with either Sochan or Barnes at the forward spots isn't that great to me. Yabusele would also work better on a playoff team that is looking to add some depth. At 28 years old, he doesn't have the upside or the vet leadership that a rebuilding team like Spurs is looking for.

[Ice009]

Alright, thank you for the evaluation, Bruno. I thought you were going to say he might not be worthy of an NBA contract, but glad I saw what you've said (I saw a player that is very good and can play in the NBA for sure), so I guess it's just a matter of fit for him.
I don't know too much about him (what type of person he is, his character), but for whatever reason, I like him. Seems like a good guy that you want to have on your team.

[exstatic]

Alright, thank you for the evaluation, Bruno. I thought you were going to say he might not be worthy of an NBA contract, but glad I saw what you've said (I saw a player that is very good and can play in the NBA for sure), so I guess it's just a matter of fit for him.
I don't know too much about him (what type of person he is, his character), but for whatever reason, I like him. Seems like a good guy that you want to have on your team.
Boston didn’t think so. He didn’t have his year 3 option picked up after his rookie year, and left after his guaranteed two years.

[spurraider21]

Boston didn’t think so. He didn’t have his year 3 option picked up after his rookie year, and left after his guaranteed two years.
they didnt think so in 2019. its been 5 years

[exstatic]

they didnt think so in 2019. its been 5 years

He’s 5 years older, without any further NBA experience or development.

Not picking up the first option of a #16 overall pick speaks pretty loudly. I can only think of one other comparable situation, Jalen Smith, and another team picked him up and he’s still in the league.

[MannyIsGod]

Be my guest, find me one example of them trash talking after a win vs a team that has no beef nor history with them

Why all these qualifiers? Jordan shit talked his entire career to everyone. So did Kobe. That's the exact way they were built and there are more greats that do this than don't. Also the assumption here is that no one on the French team dared say shit all game or in previous games which is nonsense. Wemby himself has talked plenty of shit in games that I've seen so it would not surprise me one bit if he talked trash during that game.

Making out Curry to be some kind of asshole based on his sleep celebration when French Jesus Killian Mbappe does shit like that all the time is just laughable. There's one thing that's consistent between sports greats its this kind of behavior.

[MannyIsGod]

MJ had a personal pb wit Isiah who btw was the one that started it by asking his allsatr teammates not to pass the ball to MJ during his 1st ASG

Find me just 1 ex of a trash talk from MJ or Kobe unprovoked... Especially as veterans that Curry or Lebron are

Why are you so sure it was unprovoked? Wemby talks shit my dude. Other french players talk shit. Most players talk shit! And the idea that MJ or Kobe only responded to others talking shit is LOL.

[MannyIsGod]

Not to mention I don't even think Steph was trash talking the French team. He was doing it at the crowd.

[MannyIsGod]

LOL JORDAN WOULD NEVER

https://www.complex.com/sports/a/jose-martinez/michael-jordan-epic-trash-talking-moments

[MannyIsGod]

THE MAN TRASH TALKED HIS OWN TEAM AND INFAMOUSLY PUNCHED STEVE FUCKING KERR!!

This is the dude you want to hold up as the one who would never?

[tonight...you]

Larry Bird was the biggest, most disrespectful trash talker on the planet next to KG.

[Limguogolo]

Alright, thank you for the evaluation, Bruno. I thought you were going to say he might not be worthy of an NBA contract, but glad I saw what you've said (I saw a player that is very good and can play in the NBA for sure), so I guess it's just a matter of fit for him.
I don't know too much about him (what type of person he is, his character), but for whatever reason, I like him. Seems like a good guy that you want to have on your team.

He explained in an interview last month what happened.

To begin, he didn't play much so he gained a bit weight (like Boris, like Seraphin). Despite everything, he persevered and managed to increase the number of training sessions. The coaches saw that he was working, they were happy with him, but they never gave him a chance. His agent asked for explanations, other franchises were interested in a trade, but Boston was against it. They always had an excuse for why he wasn't more in the rotation.

Then, Kyrie Irving and Al Horford asked the coaches why he wasn't playing because seeing that he “kicked them all out in training” they didn't understand. No response.

Same thing with Danny Ainge who also liked him according to Gerschon and who advised him to go talk to the coach, Brad Stevens. Typical “American” politically correct response: “I love what you do”, never materializing in playing time.

After the second year, he was cut just before the season resumed. He could have had offers of non-guaranteed contracts, but he did not insist, disgusted by the experience, and returned to Europe.

Since his performances in Europe and with the French team, there have often been contacts to find out the conditions of his contract in Madrid, but never any follow-ups. The most serious proposal was with Utah two years ago, just before the big Gobert trade. Danny Ainge, always, wanted him, he was ready to sign, but at the last moment the trade with Rudy was done and there was no longer any question of signing him in Utah.


https://youtu.be/poJBf5luJxM?si=I1APn3kOQc2GNojq&t=2134

[Thomas82]

Welp, Manu and Oberto still the only Spur players with a Gold Medal.

David Robinson has 2 gold medals.

[Thomas82]

You're right you know. And now that I recall Jordan sobbed uncontrollably on the lockerroom floor after the 1996 ring

I remember that too. It was the first championship he won without his dad being there.

[cool cat]

David Robinson has 2 gold medals.

Keldon got one too.

[MannyIsGod]

Welp, Manu and Oberto still the only Spur players with a Gold Medal.

LOL, we literally have 4 gold medals on the team RIGHT NOW! Keldon, Chris Paul has two, and Harrison Barnes. David Robinson won two. Antonio McDyess won one. Steve Smith won one. Alvin Robertson. And there might be more.

Sorry man, your Argies aren't THAT special.

[Ef-man]

You can thank me later.

I present to you, the lamentations of the women!!! (Turn on the sound)

https://x.com/30sLegacy_/status/1822984729492390005

[Limguogolo]

Americans are never more satisfied with themselves than when they mistreat those smaller than themselves. The Avengers weren't supposed to beat every team by 40 pts? Almost got beaten by the team from the poorest country in the world, and obviously France. I would like the same video with the big victory of the USA women's Team generously helped in its quest for gold by the referees.^^

[Pauleta14]

Boston didn’t think so. He didn’t have his year 3 option picked up after his rookie year, and left after his guaranteed two years.

Apprently the main reason was that he couldn't shoot the damn ball, they liked everything else about him.

He's gotten a lot better playing at the highest level in europe in a club with a high level of pressure. Everybody wants to beat the Real Madrid

[Pauleta14]

Why all these qualifiers? Jordan shit talked his entire career to everyone. So did Kobe. That's the exact way they were built and there are more greats that do this than don't. Also the assumption here is that no one on the French team dared say shit all game or in previous games which is nonsense. Wemby himself has talked plenty of shit in games that I've seen so it would not surprise me one bit if he talked trash during that game.

Making out Curry to be some kind of asshole based on his sleep celebration when French Jesus Killian Mbappe does shit like that all the time is just laughable. There's one thing that's consistent between sports greats its this kind of behavior.

1- Still waiting on just ONE example of MJ acting like a douche at the end of a game he won, ESPACIALLY vs a team he's supposed to beat BY A LARGE MARGIN. Just one...

2- I despises almost everything about Mbappe, his game, his personality... everything! :lol I'm relieved like many PSG fans that he's finally gone. Bad example ;)

3- Context matters, I'm not against trash talk at all, but it had to be justified. Telling your opp to go to sleep when 99% of other nations would show mutual respect after a game of such intensity, doesn't make any sense and makes you look stupid.

4- I don't reacall a french player disrespecting the US but maybe I missed it...

[MannyIsGod]

1- Still waiting on just ONE example of MJ acting like a douche at the end of a game he won, ESPACIALLY vs a team he's supposed to beat BY A LARGE MARGIN. Just one...

2- I despises almost everything about Mbappe, his game, his personality... everything! :lol I'm relieved like many PSG fans that he's finally gone. Bad example ;)

3- Context matters, I'm not against trash talk at all, but it had to be justified. Telling your opp to go to sleep when 99% of other nations would show mutual respect after a game of such intensity, doesn't make any sense and makes you look stupid.

4- I don't reacall a french player disrespecting the US but maybe I missed it...

My god you are dragging those goal posts time and time again. First it was they never did it. Then it was they never did it unless someone else did it. Now its they never did it unless someone else did it at the end of the game?

Are the goalposts not heavy or are you just really strong when it comes to changing your argument?

As for 3 you are just making things up man. There is no logical consistency and you simply want to be angry at the US team because they had the audacity to beat the team you wanted to win. The point is you have NO IDEA what a French player may or may not have said to the US because you weren't in the game. Wemby is a shit talker, but when he does it you justify it because you like Wemby. The only thing consistent about your arguments is that they hinge on how you feel about players and not actually what the players are doing.

[Pauleta14]

Why are you so sure it was unprovoked? Wemby talks shit my dude. Other french players talk shit. Most players talk shit! And the idea that MJ or Kobe only responded to others talking shit is LOL.

Because multiple ppl from BOTH camps told the root of the story.

Isiah is from Chicago, despite playing for DET, was still a legend in CHI.

One day one of his nephew came and asked him a MJ jersey (or was wearing one I'm not sure) and he realised he wasn't THE GUY any more, that MJ took over his own city.

THAT was the origin, then Isiah shun MJ during his first ASG, then the EST finals, then CHI beat DET and Isiah leaves the floor without shaking CHI's players hands etc

MJ despite loosing to DET went and shook every players hands. Joe Dumars even talked multiple time on how classy MJ was and that he told him "go get it now" etc

[MannyIsGod]

Because multiple ppl from BOTH camps told the root of the story.

Isiah is from Chicago, despite playing for DET, was still a legend in CHI.

One day one of his nephew came and asked him a MJ jersey (or was wearing one I'm not sure) and he realised he wasn't THE GUY any more, that MJ took over his own city.

THAT was the origin, then Isiah shun MJ during his first ASG, then the EST finals, then CHI beat DET and Isiah leaves the floor without shaking CHI's players hands etc

MJ despite loosing to DET went and shook every players hands. Joe Dumars even talked multiple time on how classy MJ was and that he told him "go get it now" etc

I wasn't talking about MJ's actions being unprovoked, I was talking about Currys. And I'll give you a simple motivation for Curry's actions: The French fans booed Embiid the entire Olympics. It was clear the US didn't like that, so that could easily have provoked Curry's action since it wasnt' at the team but the fans. We'll never know, but the point is acting like it's a fact that his actions were unprovoked is obviously wrong. You don't know. You weren't on that court.

[Pauleta14]

LOL JORDAN WOULD NEVER

https://www.complex.com/sports/a/jose-martinez/michael-jordan-epic-trash-talking-moments

Not one of those example are related to our convo or comparable :lol

A man to man trash talk on the floor is very diff than taunting from the side lines or doing a whole spectacle and dance after scoring a bucket

[Pauleta14]

I wasn't talking about MJ's actions being unprovoked, I was talking about Currys. And I'll give you a simple motivation for Curry's actions: The French fans booed Embiid the entire Olympics. It was clear the US didn't like that, so that could easily have provoked Curry's action since it wasnt' at the team but the fans. We'll never know, but the point is acting like it's a fact that his actions were unprovoked is obviously wrong. You don't know. You weren't on that court.

Nah, that's BS, US players don't even seem to like Emiid :lol

Curry like Lebron or KD have fans all over the place and the US team was well received

The truth imo is that they just acted the same way they do all season but forgot Internationall BB and club's are very different.

I give them that tbh, I don't think their intentions were malicious, they just don't know better/lack education

[MannyIsGod]

Not one of those example are related to our convo or comparable :lol

A man to man trash talk on the floor is very diff than taunting from the side lines or doing a whole spectacle and dance after scoring a bucket

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0TKEofio7w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03GT8q3BCZY

Just stop man. Just take the L. Its fine if you don't know, but this is just nonsense at this point.

Dude

[Pauleta14]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0TKEofio7w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03GT8q3BCZY

Just stop man. Just take the L. Its fine if you don't know, but this is just nonsense at this point.

Dude

I you're genuinely missing the point i'm making, I know MJ was no angel, I'm talking about antics that just didn't exist in his era, there are no simmilar example.

MJ went and shook guys he despises's hands after loosing when Lebron went straight to the lockeroom. See the difference?

MJ kept it man to man when Curry dances on the floor and taunts even when UNPROVOKED. See the difference?

[Pauleta14]

I just thought of another MASSIVE difference between MJ and Lebron...

When asked who's the GOAT MJ always asnwered that comparing eras is stupid, that they didn't play against one another etc

Lebron on the other hand, has a "choosen one" tatoo, has a team dedicated to his promotion, calls himself the King and the GOAT...

See the difference?

[Pauleta14]

You can thank me later.

I present to you, the lamentations of the women!!! (Turn on the sound)

https://x.com/30sLegacy_/status/1822984729492390005

Good for ur patriotic ego if it makes u happy, but you're missing a lot of context here.

French commentators overplay the drama ALL THE TIME one way or another.

I usually avoid french sport streams specifically bc they often make the game unwatchable (same in football)

[exstatic]

Apprently the main reason was that he couldn't shoot the damn ball, they liked everything else about him.

He's gotten a lot better playing at the highest level in europe in a club with a high level of pressure. Everybody wants to beat the Real Madrid

Better shooting, small volume, shorter distance. Still not sure he would translate to the NBA game as anything more Han a roster player.

[Thomas82]

Keldon got one too.

That's right, I forgot about him.

[Brazil]

I just thought of another MASSIVE difference between MJ and Lebron...

When asked who's the GOAT MJ always asnwered that comparing eras is stupid, that they didn't play against one another etc

Lebron on the other hand, has a "choosen one" tatoo, has a team dedicated to his promotion, calls himself the King and the GOAT...

See the difference?

:lol bro let it go...

I personally don't like the shoulder shaking, the balls showing, the tea cups and all dat shit but it is part of the show in particular in the US..

[TekXX]

Olympics are over, peacock canceled

[rjv]

I just thought of another MASSIVE difference between MJ and Lebron...

When asked who's the GOAT MJ always asnwered that comparing eras is stupid, that they didn't play against one another etc

Lebron on the other hand, has a "choosen one" tatoo, has a team dedicated to his promotion, calls himself the King and the GOAT...

See the difference?

true, but let's not sell MJ short; he has a massive ego as well. it comes with the territory i guess. the difference is that MJ comes off as less insecure about it than Lebron, who seems to be obsessed with proving that he's worthy of being in the GOAT discussion, so he reminds us whenever he gets the chance. jordan seems more secure about it, in that regard.

[CorrectCrusader]

https://x.com/FIBA/status/1822406332743340169

Man the coaches in the olympics must've been AWFUL if this dude won

[Dex]

Olympics are over, peacock canceled

Thanks for the reminder

[Pauleta14]

:lol bro let it go...

I personally don't like the shoulder shaking, the balls showing, the tea cups and all dat shit but it is part of the show in particular in the US..

:lol

Honestly I don't care, just got lots of time to wait this morning, I got hooked :lol

[Ice009]

Man the coaches in the olympics must've been AWFUL if this dude won

Wow, I somehow missed this. Not going to make the French fans happy as it probably means his job is locked down. Gotta say, though, he did turn the team around. After that terrible loss against Germany, he made some adjustments and they came out a completely different team playing way harder, more emotional, tougher.

[CorrectCrusader]

Wow, I somehow missed this. Not going to make the French fans happy as it probably means his job is locked down. Gotta say, though, he did turn the team around. After that terrible loss against Germany, he made some adjustments and they came out a completely different team playing way harder, more emotional, tougher.

The biggest thing he did was sat Rudy Goberts ass down on the bench

[tonight...you]

The biggest thing he did was sat Rudy Goberts ass down on the bench
And that was a bold move considering Rudy's NBA credentials.

I read how the team maneuvering is very political and whatnot on it's moves so sitting Rudy seems pretty brave for the betterment of their success.

[Pauleta14]

Wow, I somehow missed this. Not going to make the French fans happy as it probably means his job is locked down. Gotta say, though, he did turn the team around. After that terrible loss against Germany, he made some adjustments and they came out a completely different team playing way harder, more emotional, tougher.

Nah I'm RELIEVED since yesterday, he announced that it's the end for him.

At a journalist's question about working in the NBA, he answered "I'd love to but nobody offered me anything..." :lol

[Pauleta14]

And that was a bold move considering Rudy's NBA credentials.

I read how the team maneuvering is very political and whatnot on it's moves so sitting Rudy seems pretty brave for the betterment of their success.

That was mostly provoked by the players.

A few of them are at the end of their career and dgaf, one of them (the journalist didn't say who) even told the president of the french basketball federation to "fuck off" basically, when this one came to tell the team that their loss vs Germany (group stage) was "shameful".

This player (a leader) told him that "he was a shamefull president" and left the room. The totality of the team then followed him and left the coaches and president alone :lol

Everybody's guess is that the player was Fournier, who also had the balls in interview after that loss to defy the coach saying "we need to have a reliable offense, not only base it all on defense etc"

Anyone with a set of eyes could see Gobert was wasting too many offensive plays and became a weak link that opp exploited.

Collet just did what everybody was begging him to do

[Ef-man]

Good for ur patriotic ego if it makes u happy, but you're missing a lot of context here.

French commentators overplay the drama ALL THE TIME one way or another.

I usually avoid french sport streams specifically bc they often make the game unwatchable (same in football)

It is nothing about patriotism.

It is a reference about what is best in life and it went over your head.

[Ice009]

That was mostly provoked by the players.

A few of them are at the end of their career and dgaf, one of them (the journalist didn't say who) even told the president of the french basketball federation to "fuck off" basically, when this one came to tell the team that their loss vs Germany (group stage) was "shameful".

This player (a leader) told him that "he was a shamefull president" and left the room. The totality of the team then followed him and left the coaches and president alone :lol

Everybody's guess is that the player was Fournier, who also had the balls in interview after that loss to defy the coach saying "we need to have a reliable offense, not only base it all on defense etc"

Anyone with a set of eyes could see Gobert was wasting too many offensive plays and became a weak link that opp exploited.

Collet just did what everybody was begging him to do

Wow, I didn't know the coach is stepping down. I thought some of the French fans said he had a job for life.

As for the player, I wonder who it was. Who is the president of the French basketball federation? What job does Boris Diaw hold? Doesn't he have one of those positions?

[Limguogolo]

Wow, I didn't know the coach is stepping down. I thought some of the French fans said he had a job for life.

As for the player, I wonder who it was. Who is the president of the French basketball federation? What job does Boris Diaw hold? Doesn't he have one of those positions?
He had, but fortunately, we have finally reached the end of the cycle and despite the relative success of this last competition.

If we consider that coaching is about making adjustments when they are necessary, we can estimate that his award for best coach in the competition is deserved.

The press revealed some elements (those mentioned by Pauleta) of why this turnaround caused these improbable adjustments, but we will probably never know the real reasons which pushed Collet not only to change his rotations, but also to modify his management. The difference in behavior was not only on the floor, where the defensive involvement was much better and where players raised their level in attack. We also saw behaviors change on the bench.

It remains to be seen how and why Rudy got injured. This is not a trivial injury. A cut finger isn't the kind of injury you get in training. My paranoid side tells me that there would not only have been bad words exchanged with the president, but potentially between the players. Rudy is impulsive, we see it clearly in his games; during the competition he even held an opponent's ankle while he was on the ground and should have been expelled. So a cut on the finger, we can imagine that it is the result of this impulsiveness and an argument between players and management. Paradoxically, perhaps this would have allowed them to put things into perspective and calm down by forcing them to make compromises. For Collet, this would have convinced him to let go of his ineffective defensive policy and his sterile offensive.

Boris is the general manager. It seems that it was he who had the idea to bring in Kenny Atkinson. And precisely, we saw Kenny Atkinson much more active on the bench after the defeat against Germany.

(Arguing in a group, making a revolution, insulting the president, it's so French. We can at least recognize that in this strange and ultimately happy event.)

[tonight...you]

That was mostly provoked by the players.

A few of them are at the end of their career and dgaf, one of them (the journalist didn't say who) even told the president of the french basketball federation to "fuck off" basically, when this one came to tell the team that their loss vs Germany (group stage) was "shameful".

This player (a leader) told him that "he was a shamefull president" and left the room. The totality of the team then followed him and left the coaches and president alone :lol

Everybody's guess is that the player was Fournier, who also had the balls in interview after that loss to defy the coach saying "we need to have a reliable offense, not only base it all on defense etc"

Anyone with a set of eyes could see Gobert was wasting too many offensive plays and became a weak link that opp exploited.

Collet just did what everybody was begging him to do
Wow. That's some drama for your mama.

[Brazil]

FNT has always been the theatre of a lot of drama tbh... between the NBA players and Euro players, with the coach, the president... and even the fact that they had to play in Lille for the Olympics. At one point things were a bit more calm with Tony who basically was running the show and established himself as the alpha, that did not happen yet with Victor but he will have to. It is a next step for Victor and for the Spurs too, he needs to make it clear that it is his team and people needs to play for him and not around