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Winehole23
10-31-2024, 10:35 PM
^ that's literally well under half the plausible scenariosyeah well, I never said there wasn't more than three, I just picked three likely ones

Winehole23
10-31-2024, 10:37 PM
Trump can edge Harris and Harris will concede.

Trump will never concede.

UNT Eagles 2016
10-31-2024, 10:45 PM
Scenario 4: Harris wins the popular vote but Trump wins the ostensible electoral college majority

-Harris won't concede as quickly as Hillary did, but eventually she will especially if Trump isn't given a jail sentence on November 26th or it's dismissed before then


Scenario 5: Harris wins the popular vote narrowly and wins a narrower than Biden, but still stable, electoral college majority

-Trump will not concede and claim fraud just as he did in 2020, and even though it'll have more teeth than in 2020 with a narrower Democrat win, people are tired of election denialism and ultimately he'll be told to concede in exchange for no jail time in his trial cases and he'll be forced to accept

Scenario 6: Harris wins the popular vote narrowly and wins a radioactive, 270-268 electoral college majority

-That scenario is possible if Harris carries the rust belt three but loses all the other swing states including Nevada. Trump will not concede, claim cheating will he and Musk and the rest will do their best to try to convince or even pay electors to go faithless. These are common, middle class proles that aren't rich and don't have political power. This may be enough to try to get SCOTUS to flip.

Scenario 7: Trump wins popular vote and loses the electoral college by more than 270-268

Trump will be kicking and screaming at this and it'll be hilarious, but there's not much you can do if you can't overturn multiple states in the SCOTUS

Scenario 8: Trump wins popular vote and loses the electoral college by exactly 270-268

Trump writhes and declares civil war if he doesn't get his way

Scenario 9: Harris wins popular vote and electoral college ends in a 269-269 tie

Less likely since you're likely seeing NE-02 surprise flip back red in that instance, but if Harris wins the popular vote in that scenario potentially you can convince some of the softer old guard GOP type congresspeople in the Plains states with a tiny population to vote Harris over Trump, especially if the GOP wins/holds both chambers of congress

Scenario 10: Trump wins popular vote and electoral college ends in a 269-269 tie

Again less likely, but Trump winning the popular vote would pretty much convince the critical GOP congress people that Trump deserves the vaunted second term.

UNT Eagles 2016
10-31-2024, 10:47 PM
Trump can edge Harris and Harris will concede.

Trump will never concede.
Scenario 11: Harris wins by Obama 2008 type margins in the popular vote and electoral college, every news outlet calls election for Harris before midnight

-Trump concedes on election night, no mention of fraud or cheating

Scenario 12: Trump wins by Obama 2008 type margins in the popular vote and electoral college, every news outlet calls election for Trump before midnight

-Harris concedes on election night, no mention of "we have to wait until every vote is counted..."

Winehole23
10-31-2024, 10:50 PM
lotta wishcasting, but some of those things could happen

Winehole23
10-31-2024, 10:50 PM
Trump will never concede

UNT Eagles 2016
10-31-2024, 10:51 PM
lotta wishcasting, but some of those things could happen

Which are you calling wishcasting? I'm not wishcasting, I'm brainstorming, offering very possible scenarios

Winehole23
10-31-2024, 10:52 PM
That norm is broken.

All Democratic Party wins are illegitmate a priori.

Winehole23
10-31-2024, 10:55 PM
Trump will not concede under any circumstances.

This should disqualify him, but it is also a selling point.

Americans want an all-American dictator.

UNT Eagles 2016
10-31-2024, 11:33 PM
That norm is broken.

All Democratic Party wins are illegitmate a priori.
That's not true.

Other than Trump and Kari Lake, who has cried about their election being stolen?

Name names

UNT Eagles 2016
11-01-2024, 03:45 PM
MAMALA - MENTUM CONTINUES!

:

https://kalshi.com/events

UNT Eagles 2016
11-02-2024, 08:38 PM
MAMALA MENTUM TRACKER:

https://www.predictit.org/markets Kamala back to a near 60% lead

Polymarket only down to 53% Trump now and falling :wow :wow :wow https://polymarket.com/event/presidential-election-winner-2024?tid=1730440917765

Will Hunting
11-03-2024, 08:35 AM
Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) Dems are TANKING in the purple-state (rust belt) Senate polls. :lol What an epic choke job if not just Sherrod but also Baldwin/Slotkin/Casey all lose, or at least 2 of 3 would probably guarantee a GOP Senate majority for a generation or so even if both Lake and Scarface both lose.

(not Jon Tester; he's getting Heitkamp'd)
:lol Slotkin and Bob Casey aren't losing and Sherrod was always a long shot to win again. Baldwin is the only one who's choking.

Will Hunting
11-03-2024, 08:48 AM
MAMALA MENTUM TRACKER:

https://www.predictit.org/markets Kamala back to a near 60% lead

Polymarket only down to 53% Trump now and falling :wow :wow :wow https://polymarket.com/event/presidential-election-winner-2024?tid=1730440917765
This is genuinely one of the dumbest ways to predict who's going to win dude.

The betting markets swung because of a Kamala +3 Iowa poll that's clearly fucked up. Even though the poll was conducted by the "holy grail" of Iowa pollsters it was clearly very flawed (it was a Biden-won sample in a state that Trump won by 8% in 2020 FFS). It's very unclear to me why Selzer is risking her reputation on such a shoddy poll, because she's losing her A+ pollster rating unless Trump wins Iowa by like 3% or less (which would mean Kamala landslide across the country).

The presidential election is as close to a toss-up as it gets. The polls don't consistently favor either candidate, and all the grifters who do "early vote analysis" are making shit up for clicks. Florida is the only state where the early vote stats indicate a clear issue for one candidate, but we already knew Florida was gonna sprint right this year. Beyond that the election day vote is too much of a mystery to draw conclusions.

Trainwreck2100
11-03-2024, 08:54 AM
This is genuinely one of the dumbest ways to predict who's going to win dude.

The betting markets swung because of a Kamala +3 Iowa poll that's clearly fucked up. Even though the poll was conducted by the "holy grail" of Iowa pollsters it was clearly very flawed (it was a Biden-won sample in a state that Trump won by 8% in 2020 FFS). It's very unclear to me why Selzer is risking her reputation on such a shoddy poll, because she's losing her A+ pollster rating unless Trump wins Iowa by like 3% or less (which would mean Kamala landslide across the country).

The presidential election is as close to a toss-up as it gets. The polls don't consistently favor either candidate, and all the grifters who do "early vote analysis" are making shit up for clicks. Florida is the only state where the early vote stats indicate a clear issue for one candidate, but we already knew Florida was gonna sprint right this year. Beyond that the election day vote is too much of a mystery to draw conclusions.

Disagree, it wasn't a risk to her reputation when she went against all the other pollsters in 2016 and 2020.

Will Hunting
11-03-2024, 08:58 AM
While I think the presidential race is pretty much a coin flip, I do think the Democrats flip the house with a slim majority.

There are five Republicans (Bacon, Garcia, Duarte, Williams, D'Esposito) who IMO are pretty much cooked. Mike Johnson hasn't been the fundraiser that McCarthy was and the Dems have a spending advantage in basically all of the competitive house races. Mike Johnson has also said some really dumb shit the last few weeks, like how he plans to repeal the ACA and the CHIPS Act with a majority.

IMO the seats that decide control will be the two competitive Arizona seats and NY-19. Arizona is the biggest CHIPS Act state in the country so Johnson saying he wants to repeal it was really dumb.

https://i.ibb.co/xLMcbYF/House.png

Will Hunting
11-03-2024, 10:01 AM
Disagree, it wasn't a risk to her reputation when she went against all the other pollsters in 2016 and 2020.
It wasn't a risk to her reputation because the final results vindicated her polling.

I'd love to be wrong but I don't see any scenario where Kamala wins Iowa (or even comes within 4% for that matter).

Trainwreck2100
11-03-2024, 11:05 AM
It wasn't a risk to her reputation because the final results vindicated her polling.

I'd love to be wrong but I don't see any scenario where Kamala wins Iowa (or even comes within 4% for that matter).

4 points in Iowa means trump lost three points in Iowa which is bad news for him anyway. Harris minus 4 in this poll would have been good news for her campaign.

Will Hunting
11-03-2024, 11:33 AM
4 points in Iowa means trump lost three points in Iowa which is bad news for him anyway. Harris minus 4 in this poll would have been good news for her campaign.
I agree, my point is that if the final result is Harris -4 that's still a 7% miss by Selzer.

Trill Clinton
11-03-2024, 03:00 PM
Looking back at it, one of the early warning signs for Trump was his performance in the Iowa primary, which, coincidentally, Selzer nailed

Her poll

Trump: 48%
Haley: 20%
DeSantis: 16%
Vivek: 8%

Final results

Trump: 51%
Haley: 19%
DeSantis: 21%
Vivek: 8%

Trump just barely getting over 50% of the vote in an R primary as a former President who won by 8% there is pretty catastrophic but just kind of got swept under the rug.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-03-2024, 03:18 PM
While I think the presidential race is pretty much a coin flip, I do think the Democrats flip the house with a slim majority.

There are five Republicans (Bacon, Garcia, Duarte, Williams, D'Esposito) who IMO are pretty much cooked. Mike Johnson hasn't been the fundraiser that McCarthy was and the Dems have a spending advantage in basically all of the competitive house races. Mike Johnson has also said some really dumb shit the last few weeks, like how he plans to repeal the ACA and the CHIPS Act with a majority.

IMO the seats that decide control will be the two competitive Arizona seats and NY-19. Arizona is the biggest CHIPS Act state in the country so Johnson saying he wants to repeal it was really dumb.

https://i.ibb.co/xLMcbYF/House.png
disagree.... Schweikert, Molinaro, Nunn, and Garcia aren't losing. And I don't see both of Valadao and Duarte losing. AZ has been surprisingly red with the early vote so I now think Ciscomani holds as well. MI-08 and Davis in NC are 50/50 at best

In a Trump victory scenario there are not only those but also a handful of other potential pick up opportunities. I don't see a scenario where Trump wins at all but the GOP loses the House.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-03-2024, 03:22 PM
The presidential election is as close to a toss-up as it gets. The polls don't consistently favor either candidate, and all the grifters who do "early vote analysis" are making shit up for clicks. Florida is the only state where the early vote stats indicate a clear issue for one candidate, but we already knew Florida was gonna sprint right this year. Beyond that the election day vote is too much of a mystery to draw conclusions.

I agree the Iowa poll was an outlier and both Dems and GOP smart analysts agree Selzer is washed up.

As far as early vote states indicating a clear issue for one candidates, it's not just Florida but it's similar in Arizona.

However Wisconsin early vote is looking surprisingly bad for Trump.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-03-2024, 04:14 PM
I'm convinced in general the GOP is going to win very well down ballot but Trump is going to narrowly lose, which goes slightly against what the polls have been saying all year but goes in favor of the current polling trend, and also what happened in 2016/2020 to a large degree. That's going to be this year's "polling miss", the GOP Senate and House candidates are underrepresented while Trump is slightly overrepresented. While post-Obama polarization has largely killed most split ticketing, college-educated whites are by far the demographic that is most likely to split ticket at all and that group has become very Democratic (at least anti-Trump) since the mid 2010s while Trump voters and rural peeps don't really split ticket the other way, that's why I've been saying all along that almost all of the split ticketing will favor Harris and favor the GOP down ballot candidates.

you'll see a Trump overperformance in Montana of about 6% and Arizona of surprisingly a lot less than people thought before (maybe around 2% -- if Gallego is lucky) but not much else. I don't even see Sherrod Brown overperforming by all that much... Trump voters will come home to Moreno, even in Youngstown, remember both Moreno (2024) and McCormick (2022) were huge poll over-performers in the must-win places and statewide in their primaries.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-03-2024, 04:21 PM
the only thing Don Bacon has going for him is that it's a college educated white heavy district in NE-02, which means a lot of Trump-derangement syndrome and the best case scenario for split ticketing, but the top of the ticket is absolutely cooked so I would say Bacon is a slight underdog and I'd have him losing narrowly at this point. Though his opponent is a b3aner so he might still win, actually with redistricting most of the Latinos in the southern part of Omaha metro were drawn into NE-01.

Trainwreck2100
11-03-2024, 05:13 PM
I agree, my point is that if the final result is Harris -4 that's still a 7% miss by Selzer.
She did her method she wrote it up and those were her results. It would have been a bigger risk to her reputation if she didn't post what she got.

Blake
11-03-2024, 05:38 PM
I agree the Iowa poll was an outlier and both Dems and GOP smart analysts agree Selzer is washed up.

As far as early vote states indicating a clear issue for one candidates, it's not just Florida but it's similar in Arizona.

However Wisconsin early vote is looking surprisingly bad for Trump.

Link to a smart dem agreeing that Selzer is washed up

UNT Eagles 2016
11-03-2024, 07:07 PM
Link to a smart dem agreeing that Selzer is washed up
Will Hunting basically agreed

Blake
11-03-2024, 07:24 PM
Will Hunting basically agreed

That's great that you both think Selzer is washed up. Anyone else?

Winehole23
11-04-2024, 12:10 AM
granular early voting totals can be found here: Early Voting and Mail-In Ballots by State 2024 Results (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote)

seems women outvote men at the 55-57% level somewhat consistently across the country, but the split is more even in some western states.

Will Hunting
11-04-2024, 06:53 AM
I agree the Iowa poll was an outlier and both Dems and GOP smart analysts agree Selzer is washed up.

As far as early vote states indicating a clear issue for one candidates, it's not just Florida but it's similar in Arizona.

However Wisconsin early vote is looking surprisingly bad for Trump.
You’re using voter registration in Arizona which is dumb. Voter registration means absolutely nothing in a state where you have so many ancestral Republicans who vote Dem and haven’t updated their voter registration yet. It’s the same reason Louisiana has more registered Dems than Rs. It’s a lagging indicator.

Arizona’s 4th congressional district for example has slightly more registered Rs than Ds and it votes for Biden by double digits in 2020. The precinct I grew up in has more registered Rs than registered Dems and it voted for Biden by 20% in 2020 and it'll likely be even bluer this year.

I think Trump is slightly favored in AZ but it's going to be very close and all the people on Twitter talking about muh voter registration advantage in AZ are clueless morons.

You're also wrong about Wisconsin tho, the early voting data there isn’t bad for Trump :lol. I think the election boils down to Wisconsin and it's going to be a razor thing margin for whoever wins.

Will Hunting
11-04-2024, 07:04 AM
granular early voting totals can be found here: Early Voting and Mail-In Ballots by State 2024 Results (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/early-vote)

seems women outvote men at the 55-57% level somewhat consistently across the country, but the split is more even in some western states.
It's worth mentioning that in 2023, the early vote turnout looked bad for Dems in Virginia but the election day turnout was unexpectedly good (especially re: black voters) and it led to them winning both chambers there.

Point being that election day turnout is a giant question mark and makes it so there's little value in early voting numbers. It's the first post-COVID presidential election and there's no way of knowing what the Tuesday electorate looks like. It's likely going to have more men than liberals anticipate but it's also going to have more blacks and other minorities than Republicans anticipate.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 12:25 PM
You're also wrong about Wisconsin tho, the early voting data there isn’t bad for Trump :lol. I think the election boils down to Wisconsin and it's going to be a razor thing margin for whoever wins.
I think Hovde narrowly outruns Trump by virtue of WOW, white suburbanites that aren't big on Trump are the most likely demographic to split ticket (though still less likely in a post-Obama polarized environment) while non-college educated Trumpers -- especially exurban and rural, are the least likely to split ticket.

So if you think POTUS boils down to WI, that pretty much means you're confident Harris is taking PA then?

TSA
11-04-2024, 01:20 PM
The betting markets swung because of a Kamala +3 Iowa poll that's clearly fucked up. Even though the poll was conducted by the "holy grail" of Iowa pollsters it was clearly very flawed (it was a Biden-won sample in a state that Trump won by 8% in 2020 FFS). It's very unclear to me why Selzer is risking her reputation on such a shoddy poll, because she's losing her A+ pollster rating unless Trump wins Iowa by like 3% or less (which would mean Kamala landslide across the country).
No clue what she was thinking releasing such a shit poll :lol I'm not surprised you're the only board D not huffing the Selzer hopium poll.

https://x.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1852933009789325419

https://x.com/SuperHario64/status/1853171294876877250

Emerson released a poll after Selzer that actually reflected the current electorate with a much larger pool and had Trump +10.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 01:21 PM
UPDATE: BERNIE MORENO TAKES THE RCP LEAD!!!

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/senate/general/2024/ohio/brown-vs-moreno

(though, I don't see it being nearly that close, remember... non-college grad Trumpers are least likely demographic to split ticket, Moreno massively overperformed in the primary polls and won that primary in NE Ohio around Youngstown by dictator margins over Dolan and LaRose, which is the absolute must-win area for Sherrod Brown as that's where he was able to hold on in 2018 and reverse some trends there.

The massive problem for Sherrod Brown is that these new-GOP voters, which are heavy concentrated in North and Northeast Ohio, are hardcore straight ticket voters and just don't split-ticket for Senator the way the historically GOP college educated whites around Cincinnati and Columbus did in the past (most of these voters now vote blue for president these days).

Trump wins Ohio by 8%, Moreno by 5-6% imo similar to Vance.


https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/senate/general/2024/montana/sheehy-vs-tester

TIM SHEEHY MAINTAINS SOLID LEAD OVER JON TESTER, FINALLY ENDING THE 2006 IRAQ-KATRINA BLUE WAVE

ChumpDumper
11-04-2024, 02:29 PM
No clue what she was thinking releasing such a shit poll :lol I'm not surprised you're the only board D not huffing the Selzer hopium poll.

https://x.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1852933009789325419

https://x.com/SuperHario64/status/1853171294876877250

Emerson released a poll after Selzer that actually reflected the current electorate with a much larger pool and had Trump +10.

Why are you guys caring so hard?

I'm just here to laugh at the overreaction including two instapolls coming out of nowhere to refute the original poll.

Alex Jones' lawyer?

lol

MultiTroll
11-04-2024, 02:37 PM
Polls

Has anyone gone back and looked at previous polls before and after for accuracy?

If already posted, i missed it.

Thank you.

MultiTroll
11-04-2024, 02:42 PM
https://x.com/SuperHario64/status/1853171294876877250

Emerson released a poll after Selzer that actually reflected the current electorate with a much larger pool and had Trump +10.
Very select "Gotchya" moment?
Selzer perhaps meant at what point in time were the D and Rs polled or from among how many people is this D and R taken from.
She seems to be having legit difficulty seeing the screen.

Blake
11-04-2024, 02:49 PM
No clue what she was thinking releasing such a shit poll :lol I'm not surprised you're the only board D not huffing the Selzer hopium poll.

https://x.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1852933009789325419

https://x.com/SuperHario64/status/1853171294876877250

Emerson released a poll after Selzer that actually reflected the current electorate with a much larger pool and had Trump +10.

Lol "shit poll"

Trump speak

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 03:13 PM
It's worth mentioning that in 2023, the early vote turnout looked bad for Dems in Virginia but the election day turnout was unexpectedly good (especially re: black voters) and it led to them winning both chambers there.

Point being that election day turnout is a giant question mark and makes it so there's little value in early voting numbers. It's the first post-COVID presidential election and there's no way of knowing what the Tuesday electorate looks like. It's likely going to have more men than liberals anticipate but it's also going to have more blacks and other minorities than Republicans anticipate.
one thing about VA though is the popular vote in 2023 despite not being the 2021 red wave effect, it was definitely purple and the state legislative maps there make it very hard for the GOP to win either chamber in any given year especially the state senate. I wouldn't say it's the most ugly partisan gerrymander compared to states like Illinois and Nevada (or the old GOP Wisconsin maps) but Nova is definitely overrepresented and eat a lot of the red exurbs.

I can see Harris/Kaine winning by like 3-4%, comfy enough to not worry but alarmingly close, it won't be callable for awhile because Trump will hold a pretty large lead until the Nova dumps come in.

Donald Sterling.
11-04-2024, 04:13 PM
Fraudsters caught doing the fraud thing



https://i.imgur.com/5V4dqgS.jpeg

ChumpDumper
11-04-2024, 04:37 PM
Fraudsters caught doing the fraud thing



https://i.imgur.com/5V4dqgS.jpeg

Why are you accusing our servicemen and women of fraud?

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 04:43 PM
Quite a few? I've met zero and I don't know anyone else that has met any.

I know some that stupidly feed the deer in their area but that's it

I've met more deer pet owners than::::

Trump+Sherrod Brown voters
Trump+Bob Casey voters
Trump+Elissa Slotkin voters
Trump+Tammy Tits Baldwin voters
Trump+Ruben Gallego voters
Trump+Jacky Rosen voters
Trump+C:lollin Allred voters

.......combined.

:lmao split ticketing in 2024
:lmao garbage polls

ChumpDumper
11-04-2024, 04:47 PM
"Kamala murdered our gay porn rodent mascot" was not on my election issue bingo card.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 04:52 PM
BTC tanking:

https://robinhood.com/crypto/BTC

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 04:53 PM
for some reason Dogecoin is up today, and substantially, by >5%. I'm guessing they're banking on major election memes dominating the internet, which kind of makes sense.

you'll never get a May 2021 bull run on doge and alt coins again though

BTC down nearly 4%, Etherium down over 2%. Dogecoin UP over 7.5%. Wild.

https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/24/11/41726217/bitcoin-ethereum-wobble-as-election-results-loom-but-dogecoin-surges-expect-brutal-price-a

Leetonidas
11-04-2024, 04:59 PM
I'd hardly call BTC being within 9% of its ATH "tanking." You new to crypto Andy?

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 05:05 PM
I'd hardly call BTC being within 9% of its ATH "tanking." You new to crypto Andy?

I mean, it's not 2022 levels of tank, but we didn't expect it to fall back under 70k after re-reaching its ATH a week ago and rate cuts on the way this Thursday.

Bernstein has been consistent about a Harris victory crashing BTC down to 30-40k or worse (though still recovering reasonably quickly and eventually reaching $100k and up by late summer 2025), mostly driven by profit takers from the 2022/2023 bear market and likely increased crypto regulations under a Harris regime, but that's not in line with previous election cycle times regardless of if the Dems or GOP won the White House. However, this is the first election year that crypto has really been a politically divisive issue. Bernstein is also saying a surge to 80-90k if Trump is called the winner is likely, mostly driven by FOMO buying.

Blake
11-04-2024, 05:05 PM
I've met more deer pet owners than::::

Trump+Sherrod Brown voters
Trump+Bob Casey voters
Trump+Elissa Slotkin voters
Trump+Tammy Tits Baldwin voters
Trump+Ruben Gallego voters
Trump+Jacky Rosen voters
Trump+C:lollin Allred voters

.......combined.

:lmao split ticketing in 2024
:lmao garbage polls

I've met the same amount of dogecoin users.

z0sa
11-04-2024, 05:09 PM
It's almost time, fellas. Gonna be one for the ages. It's sad that if Trump wins (legitimately), I have no fear of violence but if he does lose, anything is possible. Especially if he's sentenced to jail time shortly thereafter.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 05:21 PM
It's almost time, fellas. Gonna be one for the ages. It's sad that if Trump wins (legitimately), I have no fear of violence but if he does lose, anything is possible. Especially if he's sentenced to jail time shortly thereafter.

If Trump wins like he did in 2016 or similar, there will be property crime, signs, hipsters, bad words, graffiti, broken windows and maybe some tear gas, but that's the extent

If Trump wins comfortably, the popular vote and the election, probably crickets

If Harris wins comfortably, like Obama 2008 or similar, probably mostly crickets

If Harris wins similar to Biden in 2020, yes there will be riots and possibly some violence or at least threats of such, maybe a shooting or two

If Trump wins the popular vote but narrowly loses the electoral college to Harris.... something like 270-268 or even 276-262... there will be a civil war. Imagine Trump's ego seeing people like Moreno, McCormick, Rogers, Hovde, hell even Kari Lake get sworn in but not himself.

Leetonidas
11-04-2024, 05:29 PM
I mean, it's not 2022 levels of tank, but we didn't expect it to fall back under 70k after re-reaching its ATH a week ago and rate cuts on the way this Thursday.

Bernstein has been consistent about a Harris victory crashing BTC down to 30-40k or worse (though still recovering reasonably quickly and eventually reaching $100k and up by late summer 2025), mostly driven by profit takers from the 2022/2023 bear market and likely increased crypto regulations under a Harris regime, but that's not in line with previous election cycle times regardless of if the Dems or GOP won the White House. However, this is the first election year that crypto has really been a politically divisive issue. Bernstein is also saying a surge to 80-90k if Trump is called the winner is likely, mostly driven by FOMO buying.

"We?" :lol Crypto is volatile and unpredictable by nature so predictions mean jack shit honestly. anyone telling you otherwise is selling hopium. Bitcoin's history speaks for itself though, regardless of how it is performing at any given point it will continue to increase in value over time. so whoever wins the presidency is irrelevant to that in the long run

FrostKing
11-04-2024, 05:29 PM
Canada elected Trudeau, so there is hope for Kamala

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 05:38 PM
"We?" :lol Crypto is volatile and unpredictable by nature so predictions mean jack shit honestly. anyone telling you otherwise is selling hopium. Bitcoin's history speaks for itself though, regardless of how it is performing at any given point it will continue to increase in value over time. so whoever wins the presidency is irrelevant to that in the long run
Correct, but I already knew that.

My point is that Kamala winning would be likely to present a buy-the-dip opportunity in the short run.

because if you bought BTC at many points of 2021 and you're holding/hodling it, you're 3+ years in and sitting on zero profit right now to date. But, continue hodling, because historically the year after election year is the big bull year.

if you whaled BTC in 2020 or even spring 2022 through fall 2023, congrats you're rich

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 05:51 PM
I've met the same amount of dogecoin users.

nobody hodles it silly, they take the short term gain and go.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 07:13 PM
TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032)
https://i.imgur.com/W44Hdfy.jpg



Popular Vote:

Trump/Vance: 77,414,976 (49.1%)
Harris/Walz: 77,013,854 (48.6%)
Stein/Others: 1,592,797 (2.3%)





https://i.imgur.com/yrdONz0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/q93F2Lv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3LlVEMP.jpg



Congressional National Popular Vote: R + 1.9 %

florige
11-04-2024, 07:18 PM
TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032)
https://i.imgur.com/W44Hdfy.jpg



Popular Vote:

Trump/Vance: 77,414,976 (49.1%)
Harris/Walz: 77,013,854 (48.6%)
Stein/Others: 1,592,797 (2.3%)





https://i.imgur.com/yrdONz0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/q93F2Lv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3LlVEMP.jpg



Congressional National Popular Vote: R + 1.9 %



MAGA’s would march in Washington on Nov 6th if this is the outcome . Trump probably calls for civil war honestly

Blake
11-04-2024, 07:20 PM
nobody hodles it silly, they take the short term gain and go.

Crypto in a nutshell

Leetonidas
11-04-2024, 07:24 PM
Trump winning the popular vote is pure uncut hopium

UNT Eagles 2016
11-04-2024, 07:32 PM
MAGA’s would march in Washington on Nov 6th if this is the outcome . Trump probably calls for civil war honestly

Yup!!!!!!! :D :toast

I picked the funniest but still reasonably realistic scenario. Couldn't go as far as to having Kari Lake win, despite polling looking better for her and split ticketing being overrated, if anything because she's pretty much tied to Trump at the hip, so it would be funny to watch her and Trump both revolt and claim fraud while the more even-keeled conservative candidates actually win their elections because they're not running on the "news is fake and the elections are rigged".


Trump winning the popular vote is pure uncut hopium
RCP has the popular vote tied, fwiw. CA, NY, IL, TX, FL are all voting to the right of 2020. It's very possible.

ElNono
11-05-2024, 01:24 AM
RCP has the popular vote tied, fwiw. CA, NY, IL, TX, FL are all voting to the right of 2020. It's very possible.

It really isn't. If he didn't win it in 2016, when he was a relative unknown, then it's just not happening.

I actually wouldn't be surprised at all if the popular vote has a larger margin for (D) this time around. That doesn't mean he can't win the presidency.

ElNono
11-05-2024, 01:25 AM
Good luck tomorrow to both red and blue cheerleaders, tbh... we probably won't know the result until wednesday/thursday anyways, after all the vote dumps and Soros cheating...

hater
11-05-2024, 08:25 AM
John and I will sleep great at night :tu

Most here... Not so much...


Cheers :tu


https://x.com/peterdaou/status/1853775838111559702

LkrFan
11-05-2024, 09:39 AM
Abbot bent the knee to Kamala (who can withold FEMA and Federal funding from Texas - the same way Rump did with Puerto Rico - and has threatened to do the same thing with California)
1853807972087914909

Good job farmers :tu

z0sa
11-05-2024, 09:49 AM
^ Yeah, Texas acts big and tough but we get massive payouts from the feds every single year and have no leverage with which to deny basically anything the feds want to do with our state within federal regulation.

ElNono
11-05-2024, 09:54 AM
^ Yeah, Texas acts big and tough but we get massive payouts from the feds every single year and have no leverage with which to deny basically anything the feds want to do with our state within federal regulation.

Hilarious, since Texas is the epitome of big, bad government...

TSA
11-05-2024, 10:39 AM
It really isn't. If he didn't win it in 2016, when he was a relative unknown, then it's just not happening.

I actually wouldn't be surprised at all if the popular vote has a larger margin for (D) this time around. That doesn't mean he can't win the presidency.

Add this to your other terrible takes in this thread :lol


Sorry, but as things stand, Trump isn't winning PA, IMVHO, that's pure wishcasting. He won in '16 when he was a complete unknown, but 2020 is a far better indicator. I actually suspect he'll lose by a wider margin this time around.


I give Dennison a 3% chance of winning PA. NV is not in play either, IMHO. He's just a bad candidate.

TSA
11-05-2024, 10:48 AM
Sorry, but as things stand, Trump isn't winning PA, IMVHO, that's pure wishcasting. He won in '16 when he was a complete unknown, but 2020 is a far better indicator. I actually suspect he'll lose by a wider margin this time around.


https://x.com/2waytvapp/status/1853816041865891854

oof

Leetonidas
11-05-2024, 11:01 AM
https://x.com/2waytvapp/status/1853816041865891854

oof

Isn't this just mail in ballots? Gee, I wonder why mail in ballots were cast in higher frequency in 2020 vs 2024...

Ef-man
11-05-2024, 11:03 AM
A good omen: Bernard Marcus (95), cofounder of The Home Depot and billionaire Republican megadonor, has died

florige
11-05-2024, 11:06 AM
Isn't this just mail in ballots? Gee, I wonder why mail in ballots were cast in higher frequency in 2020 vs 2024...


2020 was a once in a lifetime event. Basing numbers off of the 2020 election this early is fools gold.

TSA
11-05-2024, 11:09 AM
2020 was a once in a lifetime event. Basing numbers off of the 2020 election this early is fools gold.

Pretending that Democrats didn't dominate early voting/mail in ballots before 2020 is pure copium.

ElNono
11-05-2024, 11:11 AM
Add this to your other terrible takes in this thread :lol

:lol I didn't have to catch a flight to golf in South Korea after 2020... I stand by my takes, always have, right or wrong.


https://x.com/2waytvapp/status/1853816041865891854

oof

Trump won that state in 2016 by less than 50000 votes... not sure how twice that is somehow minor now. :lol

Also, 2020 saw the pandemic and much larger vote by mail. I guess you need to get your copium anywhere you can.

Good luck tonight, tbh

Leetonidas
11-05-2024, 11:13 AM
Pretending that Democrats didn't dominate early voting/mail in ballots before 2020 is pure copium.

No one said that though? The tweet you shared is about mail in ballots only. You acting like the smaller lead of mail in ballots in 2024 vs 2020 and trying to draw conclusions from it is pure copium. There isn't a pandemic this time around so not as many people are voting by mail. Not hard to figure out the discrepancy

ElNono
11-05-2024, 11:14 AM
Pretending that Democrats didn't dominate early voting/mail in ballots before 2020 is pure copium.

Why don't you mention you can thank Trump for that? :lol

Leetonidas
11-05-2024, 11:15 AM
We also don't know how many of those Republicans voted for Kamala. I guarantee its a higher number that Dems voting for Trump

Trill Clinton
11-05-2024, 11:18 AM
1853665960303145364

TSA
11-05-2024, 11:23 AM
We also don't know how many of those Republicans voted for Kamala. I guarantee its a higher number that Dems voting for Trump

:rollin

TSA
11-05-2024, 11:26 AM
:lol I didn't have to catch a flight to golf in South Korea after 2020... I stand by my takes, always have, right or wrong.



Trump won that state in 2016 by less than 50000 votes... not sure how twice that is somehow minor now. :lol

Also, 2020 saw the pandemic and much larger vote by mail. I guess you need to get your copium anywhere you can.

Good luck tonight, tbh

:lol falling for Ef-Man's debunked Korea schtick

I stand by my takes too, right or wrong. I don't go into hiding after shit takes or lost bets like certain posters do here time after time.

Good luck to you tonight as well...life will go on like it always have regardless of who wins.

:bobo

Leetonidas
11-05-2024, 11:27 AM
Lol posts a gotcha thinking it's about all early voting when it's just mail in ballots and can't respond so resorts to emojis

ElNono
11-05-2024, 11:28 AM
:lol falling for Ef-Man's debunked Korea schtick

I stand by my takes too, right or wrong. I don't go into hiding after shit takes or lost bets like certain posters do here time after time.

Good luck to you tonight as well...life will go on like it always have regardless of who wins.

:bobo

Been here after 2016 as well, tbh... calling it as I see it, like I always have...

TSA
11-05-2024, 11:49 AM
Lol posts a gotcha thinking it's about all early voting when it's just mail in ballots and can't respond so resorts to emojis

My response to florige applies to your question as well. I'm not ducking questions.

Democrats always vote early in bigger numbers and did so before 2020. You're hoping Democrats suddenly abandon their historical trend and show up in mass on election day like Republicans historically do...it's pure hopium.

ChumpDumper
11-05-2024, 11:51 AM
My response to florige applies to your question as well. I'm not ducking questions.

Democrats always vote early in bigger numbers and did so before 2020. You're hoping Democrats suddenly abandon their historical trend and show up in mass on election day like Republicans historically do...it's pure hopium.How big were the numbers in 2016 then?

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 11:53 AM
Good luck tomorrow to both red and blue cheerleaders, tbh... we probably won't know the result until wednesday/thursday anyways, after all the vote dumps and Soros cheating...
Where in Cali do you live though? In one of those ultra rich counties on the coast north of LA and south of Silicon Valley? You seem pretty insulated and elitist, blackrock-y... just saying tbh.

Blake
11-05-2024, 11:59 AM
John and I will sleep great at night :tu

Most here... Not so much...


Cheers :tu


https://x.com/peterdaou/status/1853775838111559702

Because a third party vote matters!

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 12:01 PM
Will Hunting

Are you confident in PA for Harris??

Leetonidas
11-05-2024, 12:01 PM
My response to florige applies to your question as well. I'm not ducking questions.

Democrats always vote early in bigger numbers and did so before 2020. You're hoping Democrats suddenly abandon their historical trend and show up in mass on election day like Republicans historically do...it's pure hopium.

Not at all. Just pointed out your gotcha post was misleading since it was about mail in ballots. Dems have a 400k+ edge there already. Being so sure that GOP will turn out to make up that difference on election day is the only hopium I see rn tbh

Edit: also not claiming that there's going to be a huge break of republicans that vote for Kamala just saying there will be a higher % of them voting for Kamala then dems voting for Trump. Not a substantial amount imo but still a better percentage

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 12:05 PM
Not at all. Just pointed out your gotcha post was misleading since it was about mail in ballots. Dems have a 400k+ edge there already. Being so sure that GOP will turn out to make up that difference on election day is the only hopium I see rn tbh

is that Pennsylvania ?

Leetonidas
11-05-2024, 12:07 PM
is that Pennsylvania ?

Yes

ChumpDumper
11-05-2024, 12:07 PM
Doesn't this mean Elon Musk predicts a landslide victory for Kamala Harris?

1853620960223453676

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1853620960223453676

TSA
11-05-2024, 12:09 PM
Not at all. Just pointed out your gotcha post was misleading since it was about mail in ballots. Dems have a 400k+ edge there already. Being so sure that GOP will turn out to make up that difference on election day is the only hopium I see rn tbh

If you think it was intentionally misleading you are reading to much into it...it was just some friendly shit talking on ElNono's earlier posts when he thought PA and NV were in the bag for Harris.

hater
11-05-2024, 12:09 PM
Because a third party vote matters!

It does to me. :tu

I dont vote for a genocide as you do.

I am not part of The United Slaves of Aipac :tu


I will sleep well tonight :tu

ChumpDumper
11-05-2024, 12:14 PM
It does to me. :tu

I dont vote for a genocide as you do.

I am not part of The United Slaves of Aipac :tu


I will sleep well tonight :tu

In which state did you vote?

Splits
11-05-2024, 12:32 PM
https://www.270towin.com/maps/JQ4wW.png

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 12:38 PM
https://www.270towin.com/maps/JQ4wW.png
baseline bum (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=131) and you called MY prediction ridiculous? :lmao

Trump's winning the election, but Kamala's winning Georgia and Wisconsin by double digits? :lol oh, and .....IOWA!?!?!?? :lmao

hater
11-05-2024, 12:52 PM
In which state did you vote?

Florida.

What state did you vote in?

FrostKing
11-05-2024, 12:59 PM
Who is winning the game

:meeting:

Splits
11-05-2024, 01:04 PM
baseline bum (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=131) and you called MY prediction ridiculous? :lmao

Trump's winning the election, but Kamala's winning Georgia and Wisconsin by double digits? :lol oh, and .....IOWA!?!?!?? :lmao

you don't have a prediction. you have 12. pick a lane

hater
11-05-2024, 01:09 PM
LMAO I just told a Palestinian family of 10 about Jill

They all just voted for Jill :tu

I will sleep so good tonight :tu

TSA
11-05-2024, 01:14 PM
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1853848203042427025

Can't use the burst pipes to suppress voting two elections in a row so obviously just go with Russia, Russia, Russia. :lol

djohn2oo8
11-05-2024, 01:17 PM
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1853848203042427025

Can't use the burst pipes to suppress voting two elections in a row so obviously just go with Russia, Russia, Russia. :lol
Shut the fuck up bitch and shake that ass fa me.

FrostKing
11-05-2024, 01:20 PM
I bet Joe still voted for himself

Ef-man
11-05-2024, 01:26 PM
CNN: Fake video claiming fraud in Arizona propagated by Russian disinformation network with ties to "troll factory

A video falsely claiming election fraud in Arizona that the US intelligence community said Monday night was manufactured by Russian influence actors was first propagated by an organization linked to the notorious “troll factory” that targeted the 2016 US presidential election.

Russian influence actors “manufactured and amplified a recent video that falsely depicted an interview with an individual claiming election fraud in Arizona, which involved creating fake overseas ballots and changing voter rolls to favor Vice President Kamala Harris,” the FBI, Office of the Director of National Intelligence and Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency said in a joint statement hours before Election Day.

The video was created and propagated by the Foundation to Battle Injustice, known as R-FBI. The group, which casts itself as a “human rights” organization, was the focus of a CNN investigation published last week into Russian efforts to sow disinformation about the US election process.

The staged video was shared on X by the head of the R-FBI, Mira Terada, and appears to have been viewed at least 236,000 times before being removed. It shows Terada conducting a fake interview with a so-called whistleblower who is described as “a former aide” to Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes. The individual — whose face is blurred and whose voice appears to be AI-generated, according to deepfake detection tool TrueMedia — claims election fraud in Arizona.

Fontes has said the claims are false.

CNN has reached out to the R-FBI and Terada for comment.

CNN’s investigation with Clemson University’s Media Forensics Hub researchers found that the R-FBI has links to a Russian disinformation network known as Storm-1516, which has increasingly taken aim at the 2024 US presidential election.

Terada’s X account was shown as suspended late Monday. CNN has reached out to X for comment.

TSA
11-05-2024, 01:27 PM
Shut the fuck up bitch and shake that ass fa me.

Shut the fuck up bitch and pay me the 2 grand you owe me you broke ass welsher.

TSA
11-05-2024, 01:35 PM
https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1853862054400000103

https://x.com/sfalmy/status/1853861357126594944

Wonder how indies will break

ChumpDumper
11-05-2024, 02:04 PM
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1853848203042427025

Can't use the burst pipes to suppress voting two elections in a row so obviously just go with Russia, Russia, Russia. :lol

Wait, you think the pipe burst was intentional?

AND you think GA's SoS is in on your latest conspiracy theory?

Leetonidas
11-05-2024, 02:04 PM
Lol Charlie Kirk panicking

1853854715450212688

ElNono
11-05-2024, 02:12 PM
Where in Cali do you live though? In one of those ultra rich counties on the coast north of LA and south of Silicon Valley? You seem pretty insulated and elitist, blackrock-y... just saying tbh.

West LA these days, tbh

ElNono
11-05-2024, 02:13 PM
Will be waiting on the Armenian Decision Desk calls tonight, tbh... spurraider21

LkrFan
11-05-2024, 02:15 PM
500 pesos says this is NOT Melania
1853873880500150426

:lol

ElNono
11-05-2024, 02:16 PM
500 pesos says this is NOT Melania
1853873880500150426

:lol

sup Fernando :lol

Make sure to take all your primos to vote...

TSA
11-05-2024, 02:20 PM
Been here after 2016 as well, tbh... calling it as I see it, like I always have...I might not be here after 2024.

If you don't see me after the election it means Trump lost and I've retired from the site due to a lost ELE bet.

If you do see me after the election that means Trump won and you won't be seeing Ef-man and pgardn posting here anymore due to a lost ELE bet.

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 02:25 PM
Will be waiting on the Armenian Decision Desk calls tonight, tbh... spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905)
definitely feel less confident going in this time than 2020

in 2020 people seemed to be over trump and exhausted by him. seems 4 years later a lot of people forgot how insufferable he was and are for some reason ignoring all the huge red flags of everybody working with him saying he's a trainwreck and a legitimate threat to the country

no kamala isnt an ideal candidate but trump, the third time around, is about as bad as it could get. and yet here we are.

hater
11-05-2024, 02:34 PM
Regardless who win the meltdown will be fucking EPIC :lmao

What u nigas drinkin tonight???

I wanna see tears from either side. Dont care which one

And Im gonna sleep like a baby as I voted for Jill and got an entire family of 10 to vote for Jill :tu

Leetonidas
11-05-2024, 02:34 PM
LMAO I just told a Palestinian family of 10 about Jill

They all just voted for Jill :tu

I will sleep so good tonight :tu

I'll take Things That Never Happened for $500

LkrFan
11-05-2024, 02:38 PM
sup Fernando :lol

Make sure to take all your primos to vote...

:lol

¡Vota Azul sin importar quién! :lol

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 02:42 PM
clark county confirmed that it received both of our ballots. hopefully we win the state by 1 vote so everybody will know that my wife and i are directly responsible

TSA
11-05-2024, 02:44 PM
Regardless who win the meltdown will be fucking EPIC :lmao

What u nigas drinkin tonight???

I wanna see tears from either side. Dont care which one

And Im gonna sleep like a baby as I voted for Jill and got an entire family of 10 to vote for Jill :tu

Pliny for President by Russian River Brewing Company :bobo

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 02:50 PM
you don't have a prediction. you have 12. pick a lane

I've stuck to one prediction.


TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032)
https://i.imgur.com/W44Hdfy.jpg



Popular Vote:

Trump/Vance: 77,414,976 (49.1%)
Harris/Walz: 77,013,854 (48.6%)
Stein/Others: 1,592,797 (2.3%)

TSA
11-05-2024, 02:57 PM
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1853848203042427025

Can't use the burst pipes to suppress voting two elections in a row so obviously just go with Russia, Russia, Russia. :lol

https://x.com/_johnnymaga/status/1853880863525601446

:lol muh Russia Russia Russia

TSA
11-05-2024, 02:59 PM
clark county confirmed that it received both of our ballots. hopefully we win the state by 1 vote so everybody will know that my wife and i are directly responsible

https://x.com/OpenSourceZone/status/1853883993420136699

https://x.com/VictorJoecks/status/1853882292881760272

Add two more to D total for accuracy.

ChumpDumper
11-05-2024, 02:59 PM
https://x.com/_johnnymaga/status/1853880863525601446

:lol muh Russia Russia Russia

How did a burst pipe suppress voting?

Blake
11-05-2024, 02:59 PM
I might not be here after 2024.

If you don't see me after the election it means Trump lost and I've retired from the site due to a lost ELE bet.

If you do see me after the election that means Trump won and you won't be seeing Ef-man and pgardn posting here anymore due to a lost ELE bet.

Lol stupid bets

ChumpDumper
11-05-2024, 03:01 PM
ELE bets are dumb. It's not like you don't want to be here.

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 03:02 PM
:lmao charlie kirk show for election analysis

TSA
11-05-2024, 03:03 PM
ELE bets are dumb. It's not like you don't want to be here.

You think ELE bets are dumb because you would never want the ability to post here taken away from you...this place is your life.

Ef-man
11-05-2024, 03:03 PM
I'll take Things That Never Happened for $500

Me: Alex, Clutching Pearls for $200

Alex: It is the Daily Double!!!!

Me: Alex, I bet $1,000

Alex: Here is your clue


Regardless who win the meltdown will be fucking EPIC :lmao

What u nigas drinkin tonight???

I wanna see tears from either side. Dont care which one

And Im gonna sleep like a baby as I voted for Jill and got an entire family of 10 to vote for Jill :tu

Me: : Alex, what is gullible tater melting down for batting 0.000 ITT too

ChumpDumper
11-05-2024, 03:06 PM
You think ELE bets are dumb because you would never want the ability to post here taken away from you...this place is your life.Getting it all out of your system, honey?

You're ducking a lot of questions today.

TSA
11-05-2024, 03:06 PM
Me: Alex, Clutching Pearls for $200

Alex: It is the Daily Double!!!!

Me: Alex, I bet $1,000

Alex: Here is your clue



Me: : Alex, what is gullible tater melting down for batting 0.000 ITT too

If Trump wins you can all thank me for getting rid of this worthless shit poster.

ChumpDumper
11-05-2024, 03:07 PM
If Trump wins you can all thank me for getting rid of this worthless shit poster.

What makes you think he'll leave?

TSA
11-05-2024, 03:08 PM
Getting it all out of your system, honey?


I know you're flustered and flailing around when you go back into your posts and do quick edits :rollin

Blake
11-05-2024, 03:08 PM
You think ELE bets are dumb because you would never want the ability to post here taken away from you...this place is your life.

It's cheap entertainment. You did an ELE bet because you take this place so serious

LkrFan
11-05-2024, 03:10 PM
1853887635691131063
:wow

LkrFan
11-05-2024, 03:12 PM
You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em :lol

TSA
11-05-2024, 03:12 PM
It's cheap entertainment. You did an ELE bet because you take this place so serious

Incorrect. I did an ELE bet because I wanted to rid the board of Ef-man as he brings zero value to this place.

Leetonidas
11-05-2024, 03:12 PM
1853887635691131063
:wow

Lol Hemisfails entire savings going up in smoke

TSA
11-05-2024, 03:17 PM
ELE bets are dumb. It's not like you don't want to be here.

ELE bets have been the go to bet on this site for the 20 some odd years I've been posting here as very few people have ever paid up on actual money bets they lost. When someone welshes on an ELE bet they are forever labeled and ridiculed. ELE bets are entertaining. Explain to me why you think ELE bets are dumb?

florige
11-05-2024, 03:32 PM
Incorrect. I did an ELE bet because I wanted to rid the board of Ef-man as he brings zero value to this place.


Just bet to be gone for two or three months or something. Everyone here contributes kinda lol

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 03:43 PM
ELE bets should be like six months to a year tops and I also think permabans should be 1 year tops unless it's something that's illegal or involves litigation. Bring back Spurtacular (NOT his alts), Avante, Thread, etc.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 03:44 PM
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if Harris wins PA by 4-5%.

Numbers looking drastically terrible for Trump in PA. And remember the Fetterman/Oz surprise margin

hater
11-05-2024, 03:47 PM
:lmao

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1853901335969878261

baseline bum
11-05-2024, 03:49 PM
baseline bum (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=131) and you called MY prediction ridiculous? :lmao

Trump's winning the election, but Kamala's winning Georgia and Wisconsin by double digits? :lol oh, and .....IOWA!?!?!?? :lmao

Trump winning the popular vote and losing the electoral college is the most moronic projection I have ever seen.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 03:51 PM
Trump winning the popular vote and losing the electoral college is the most moronic projection I have ever seen.
bookmarked. Page 16 11.05.2024

midterms will be midterms, but in 2022 the GOP won the popular vote by around 2-3% yet still lost almost all of the most competitive swing state governor and senate races.

baseline bum
11-05-2024, 03:51 PM
ELE bets have been the go to bet on this site for the 20 some odd years I've been posting here as very few people have ever paid up on actual money bets they lost. When someone welshes on an ELE bet they are forever labeled and ridiculed. ELE bets are entertaining. Explain to me why you think ELE bets are dumb?

ELE bets are dumb. What's the point of winning a bet if you can't rag on the loser? Sigbets are way better.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 03:52 PM
ELE bets are dumb. What's the point of winning a bet if you can't rag on the loser? Sigbets are way better.

sig bets, title bets, icon bets, shitpost bets etc

Joseph Kony
11-05-2024, 03:56 PM
What u nigas drinkin tonight???


MAGA tears

baseline bum
11-05-2024, 03:56 PM
bookmarked. Page 16 11.05.2024

midterms will be midterms, but in 2022 the GOP won the popular vote by around 2-3% yet still lost almost all of the most competitive swing state governor and senate races.

Democrats have to win popular vote by 3-4 points to barely carry the electoral vote. Biden won a modest 306-232 electoral win with a 4.5 point lead in the popular vote. Meanwhile Trump won nearly the same electoral count (304-227) with Clinton up 2.1 points in the popular vote.

hater
11-05-2024, 03:57 PM
MAGA tears

:tu

As long as its got some gin on it:tu

hater
11-05-2024, 03:59 PM
ELE bets are dumb. What's the point of winning a bet if you can't rag on the loser? Sigbets are way better.

Disagree. My greatest victory here was when I sent Thread to the Tree of Woe for a month. And he begged me to let him back in via PM.

He did honor the bet. Thread is a class A dude :tu

Where is he btw????

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 04:02 PM
Democrats have to win popular vote by 3-4 points to barely carry the electoral vote. Biden won a modest 306-232 electoral win with a 4.5 point lead in the popular vote. Meanwhile Trump won nearly the same electoral count (304-227) with Clinton up 2.1 points in the popular vote.

the difference is, CA, NY, IL, FL, and to some extent TX are all significantly redder now. Big population states that won't change the electoral college vote.

The presidential popular vote is tied in the polling aggregate, yet Harris still has a coin flip chance. The swing states are all medium size not large.

In 2004, for instance, John Kerry was a 3% better turnout in Ohio away from winning the election despite losing the national popular vote by around 2.5%.

koriwhat
11-05-2024, 04:14 PM
Where is he btw????

The regressives cried to the Mods to get rid of him because they don't believe in free speech just like they don't believe in an actual democracy nor our Republic.

Bunch of crybaby pussies they all are!

Joseph Kony
11-05-2024, 04:16 PM
Thread isn't banned dumbass

This is also a privately owned website, not the US government. There is no free speech here

hater
11-05-2024, 04:17 PM
Hopefully Thread is still alive :tu

Joseph Kony
11-05-2024, 04:18 PM
Hopefully Thread is still alive :tu
He was just online yesterday tbh

Ef-man
11-05-2024, 04:20 PM
It's cheap entertainment. You did an ELE bet because you take this place so serious

He is still really hurt for being called out after last time Yam Tits lost.

You can hear his pain after his use of the "Ef-man's Korea schtick debunked." :lol

TSA
11-05-2024, 04:20 PM
https://x.com/PatrickRuffini/status/1853892990332498154

oof

hater
11-05-2024, 04:26 PM
He was just online yesterday tbh

:tu

TSA
11-05-2024, 04:27 PM
NV is not in play either, IMHO. He's just a bad candidate.

https://x.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/1853890226680115311

Joseph Kony
11-05-2024, 04:31 PM
TSA is either going to be gloating hard or getting roasted big time in a few hours :lol

TSA
11-05-2024, 04:46 PM
TSA is either going to be gloating hard or getting roasted big time in a few hours :lol

I'm just posting updates from states that have real time updates it's not my fault none of it is favorable to Dems :lol

benefactor
11-05-2024, 04:51 PM
He was just online yesterday tbh
Yeah he never stops lurking. He just hides for long periods of time and then peeks his head back in the door. I'll never make the mistake of taking him off ignore again. He's an annoying old coward.

Joseph Kony
11-05-2024, 04:57 PM
I'm just posting updates from states that have real time updates it's not my fault none of it is favorable to Dems :lol
idk, Trump already crying about cheating and fraud in PA looks like bad news for the magas :lol

koriwhat
11-05-2024, 04:57 PM
He's an annoying old coward.

What makes him a coward?

florige
11-05-2024, 05:00 PM
idk, Trump already crying about cheating and fraud in PA looks like bad news for the magas :lol

He’s been crying about PA for a few days now . Makee me wonder what did his internals say

FrostKing
11-05-2024, 05:02 PM
Are they still registering voters at the border?

Blake
11-05-2024, 05:22 PM
Incorrect. I did an ELE bet because I wanted to rid the board of Ef-man as he brings zero value to this place.

Just because he brings stuff you don't like doesn't mean that equals zero value. He posts quotes and links all the time. Zero value is koriwhat that literally does nothing but angry post about other posters. Literally nothing else.

TSA
11-05-2024, 05:23 PM
https://x.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/1853890226680115311

https://x.com/VictorJoecks/status/1853924260479394083

TSA
11-05-2024, 05:31 PM
Just because he brings stuff you don't like doesn't mean that equals zero value. He posts quotes and links all the time. Zero value is koriwhat that literally does nothing but angry post about other posters. Literally nothing else.So then you’re basically koriwhat minus the anger? Because 90% of your posts here are you just talking about other posters comments and rarely contributing to the actual topic.

koriwhat neutered FuzzyLumpkins and ran him off the board that was high value peak ST right there. He also neutered your boy Ef-man in that same thread. I’m sorry to hear you might be missing Ef-man’s contributions in the near future :cry

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 05:32 PM
https://x.com/VictorJoecks/status/1853924260479394083

Independent registered voters out west skew heavily Dem though? that's what Will Hunting even agrees with.


On a related note, Ethereum (ETH) is definitely a big time buy at this time. When crypto inevitably goes up ETH is currently around $2400/pop and will skyrocket in line with BTC but you'll have a chance to make higher percentage gains, perhaps quadruple with ETH instead of less than double compared to BTC.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 05:35 PM
Thread isn't banned dumbass

This is also a privately owned website, not the US government. There is no free speech here

Semen shielding behind muh private sector crapitalism. That's exactly what the Left did in 2020/2021 to silence Covid skeptics and free thinkers. I'll never forget that as long as I live. Using the oligarchy, crony crapitalism as a shield and weapon of the government, when reality big oligarchs including big tech, blackrock etc should be broken up like Standard Oil in the 1910s via antitrust/monopoly law. Woke crapitalism is worse than communism.

TSA
11-05-2024, 05:36 PM
Independent registered voters out west skew heavily Dem though? that's what Will Hunting even agrees with.


On a related note, Ethereum (ETH) is definitely a big time buy at this time. When crypto inevitably goes up ETH is currently around $2400/pop and will skyrocket in line with BTC but you'll have a chance to make higher percentage gains, perhaps quadruple with ETH instead of less than double compared to BTC.

https://x.com/VictorJoecks/status/1853926097710432690

FrostKing
11-05-2024, 05:39 PM
https://i.ibb.co/3vdFdJ7/IMG-20241105-WA0077.jpg

baseline bum
11-05-2024, 05:42 PM
https://i.ibb.co/3vdFdJ7/IMG-20241105-WA0077.jpg

Yes he should have voted for white supremacism instead.

baseline bum
11-05-2024, 05:43 PM
Semen shielding behind muh private sector crapitalism. That's exactly what the Left did in 2020/2021 to silence Covid skeptics and free thinkers. I'll never forget that as long as I live. Using the oligarchy, crony crapitalism as a shield and weapon of the government, when reality big oligarchs including big tech, blackrock etc should be broken up like Standard Oil in the 1910s via antitrust/monopoly law. Woke crapitalism is worse than communism.

LOL two phrases that have no business being next to each other

GAustex
11-05-2024, 05:45 PM
MAGA tears
The Maganificent Orange Bastard is gonna take a big west runny shit on ur head

Winehole23
11-05-2024, 05:51 PM
PFA, I think there's maybe a 10% chance it becomes clear Harris won PA and the ostensible electoral majority today, no matter how long it takes to count Wisconsin.

I think the polls missed a vibe shift and the rapid deterioration of Trump's support right at the end.

hater
11-05-2024, 05:53 PM
PFA, I think there's maybe a 10% chance it becomes clear Harris won PA and the ostensible electoral majority today, no matter how long it takes to count Wisconsin.

I think the polls missed a vibe shift and the rapid deterioration of Trump's support right at the end.

Lot of hope here folks

hater
11-05-2024, 05:58 PM
We already have the pic that sums up the night nigs :lmao

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1853905337562054844

ElNono
11-05-2024, 05:59 PM
https://x.com/Peoples_Pundit/status/1853890226680115311

Nevada has not yet started to post official results as of this post... AFAIK

Plus we all know to wait for the Armenian Decision Desk results, tbh

ElNono
11-05-2024, 06:01 PM
https://x.com/VictorJoecks/status/1853924260479394083

Those are registered/independent voter counts, not results...

TSA
11-05-2024, 06:02 PM
PFA, I think there's maybe a 10% chance it becomes clear Harris won PA and the ostensible electoral majority today, no matter how long it takes to count Wisconsin.

I think the polls missed a vibe shift and the rapid deterioration of Trump's support right at the end.

Have you been browsing hopiumchronicles.com again? :rollin

All EV/ED data directly contradicts your hopium polls vibe shift theory.

This election cycle has broken you, a once respected intellectual poster.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 06:09 PM
Trump UNDERPERFORMING in Indiana so far


Kelly Ayotte doing well in New Hampshire for Governor

TSA
11-05-2024, 06:13 PM
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1853923520557826297

oof

hater
11-05-2024, 06:14 PM
Ce la vi

https://x.com/remarks/status/1853930330643935496

SnakeBoy
11-05-2024, 06:21 PM
This is always the funniest part of election day

Both sides sauces saying they're crushing it :lol

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 06:21 PM
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1853923520557826297

oof

Yeah Wayne county is definitely going to pull a 2020 Miami Dade.

Not outright flip, just the margins go down big time for D's, top of the ticket downward.

LkrFan
11-05-2024, 06:23 PM
1853936822675739122
1853932186111459703

:lol

Ef-man
11-05-2024, 06:24 PM
It is going so well for the felon that he revoked press access to several news organizations for tonight's night watch event in WPB :lol

Journalists from multiple news organizations have been denied credentials to the felon's election night watch event in West Palm Beach, Florida, in retaliation for their coverage of his campaign.

Reporters at Politico, Axios, Puck, Voice of America and Mother Jones were among those denied credentials. Some, like Politico, had been previously granted access to the Tuesday night event only to have the decision reversed.

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 06:26 PM
https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1853923520557826297

oof
this is where i go for my non-biased election coverage

https://i.gyazo.com/d500037ff27f9248d34f82fbed041d7a.png

LkrFan
11-05-2024, 06:26 PM
After Kamala wins here's Rump running from Merrick Garland's homeboys:
https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/dkMbiGLQ-nnYpuM4hZ6dpqtvR9R-fMVc_R0ircfzF5w.jpg

:lol

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 06:26 PM
cant wait for the Cuck Callesto tweets

GAustex
11-05-2024, 06:27 PM
Fuck em

TSA
11-05-2024, 06:29 PM
this is where i go for my non-biased election coverage

https://i.gyazo.com/d500037ff27f9248d34f82fbed041d7a.png

Is the ABC news clip he posted an AI deep fake? If no than not sure what your point is.

TSA
11-05-2024, 06:31 PM
It is going so well for the felon that he revoked press access to several news organizations for tonight's night watch event in WPB :lol

Journalists from multiple news organizations have been denied credentials to the felon's election night watch event in West Palm Beach, Florida, in retaliation for their coverage of his campaign.

Reporters at Politico, Axios, Puck, Voice of America and Mother Jones were among those denied credentials. Some, like Politico, had been previously granted access to the Tuesday night event only to have the decision reversed.

It’s going so well for Harris that she revoked access for Biden to her watch party :lmao

FrostKing
11-05-2024, 06:33 PM
It’s going so well for Harris that she revoked access for Biden to her watch party :lmao
She found out Joe voted for himself

TSA
11-05-2024, 06:40 PM
Enjoy the rest of the night fellow ST’s… my days whipping up board D’s might be numbered. Hoping to check back in on this thread tomorrow morning with a massive hangover and lib tears to ease my headache. :bobo

LkrFan
11-05-2024, 06:42 PM
1853927878028591542

:lol

LkrFan
11-05-2024, 06:43 PM
Enjoy the rest of the night fellow ST’s… my days whipping up board D’s might be numbered. Hoping to check back in on this thread tomorrow morning with a massive hangover and lib tears to ease my headache. :bobo

You got a headache? Get well soon. ;)

I bet your boy got bubble guts. He's gonna have a looooong night. :toast

hater
11-05-2024, 07:01 PM
:lmao

https://x.com/MostlyPeacefull/status/1853941040819892411

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 07:02 PM
VIRGINIA NOT CALLED AT POLL CLOSING LIKE LAST TIME (2020) HUGE FOR TRUMP

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 07:07 PM
LOL BROWARD, DUVAL, ORLANDO AND TAMPA ARE MOSTLY ALL IN AND TRUMP IS STILL WINNING!! 50-48% with only 30% of total state tallied. THIS IS A MASSACRE IN FLORIDA!!!

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 07:14 PM
bomb threats at multiple voting precincts in dekalb county, georgia

hater
11-05-2024, 07:15 PM
What the fuck :lmao

https://x.com/joma_gc/status/1853946715415437375



At least it looks like there wont be riots :tu

Blake
11-05-2024, 07:17 PM
So then you’re basically koriwhat minus the anger? Because 90% of your posts here are you just talking about other posters comments and rarely contributing to the actual topic.

koriwhat neutered FuzzyLumpkins and ran him off the board that was high value peak ST right there. He also neutered your boy Ef-man in that same thread. I’m sorry to hear you might be missing Ef-man’s contributions in the near future :cry

You're getting everything all muddied together. It's what you do. If I'm asking you something on the topic about your post, it's on you if you get butthurt. Kori just wishes all the people on his enemies list were dead and he reminds everyone of that every day. Do you really not understand the difference?

Blake
11-05-2024, 07:19 PM
Enjoy the rest of the night fellow ST’s… my days whipping up board D’s might be numbered. Hoping to check back in on this thread tomorrow morning with a massive hangover and lib tears to ease my headache. :bobo

Sure thing, pizza gate.

hater
11-05-2024, 07:19 PM
Ce la vi

https://x.com/CoinInsightful/status/1853954825043533876

hater
11-05-2024, 07:21 PM
Looks like an early night folks

Ill drink my 3rd and final shot, sleep like a baby cause I voted Jill Stein and wake up to an epic meltdown in the morning :lmao

Hopefully Netanyahu gets killed overnight as a bonus :tu

Cheers :tu

Leetonidas
11-05-2024, 07:21 PM
Ce la vi

https://x.com/CoinInsightful/status/1853954825043533876

:lol

florige
11-05-2024, 07:24 PM
It’s the same story with VA every cycle lol

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 07:29 PM
Q: Why isn't Florida called already?

A: Because they legally have to wait until the CST zone polls close to call it.


Truthfully, it's already been callable for awhile.




It’s the same story with VA every cycle lol
2012 and 2016 sure, but in 2020 VA was called for Biden IMMEDIATELY at poll closing.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 07:35 PM
BLUE WAVE ALERT: Fox News Decision Desk calls NC Governor race for Josh Stein!!! Will Hunting It's OFFICIAL!

hater
11-05-2024, 07:35 PM
My night is complete. I came ...


https://x.com/LegitTargets/status/1853943277994594681

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 07:47 PM
mark robinson already lost :lol

Leetonidas
11-05-2024, 07:52 PM
mark robinson already lost :lol

Now he has plenty of time to browse Nude Africa :lol

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 07:54 PM
Will Hunting

Kamala is getting KILLED in Miami and Florida in general.

Donald Sterling.
11-05-2024, 07:54 PM
Thread is so quiet everyone must be booking their flights to Canada.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 07:55 PM
mark robinson already lost :lol

although if the 4.2% split ticket in favor of Stein vis-a-vis Harris holds, then Harris WINS NC. Will Hunting

Boston Pancake
11-05-2024, 07:57 PM
Media still treating this like sports :lol this country is so dumb

hater
11-05-2024, 08:01 PM
Dump takes Miami :lmao

https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1853964906141221040


K:lolg:loll:lol

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2024, 08:07 PM
FLORIDA CALLED FOR FIRST TIME EVER THIS EARLY!!!

benefactor
11-05-2024, 08:19 PM
Media still treating this like sports :lol this country is so dumb
It's been that since 2000ish tbh. It's basically the Olympics except it's US Blue vs US Red and one event decides the winner

ChumpDumper
11-05-2024, 08:21 PM
ELE bets have been the go to bet on this site for the 20 some odd years I've been posting here as very few people have ever paid up on actual money bets they lost. When someone welshes on an ELE bet they are forever labeled and ridiculed. ELE bets are entertaining. Explain to me why you think ELE bets are dumb?

Because no one follows through on the bets and any loser is seen on the board soon after losing and no one cares.

hater
11-05-2024, 08:27 PM
Holee sheet :lmao

Jill is a real G :wow


:lmao


https://x.com/CoClarified/status/1853912706052657237

ChumpDumper
11-05-2024, 08:32 PM
Holee sheet :lmao

Jill is a real G :wow


:lmao


https://x.com/CoClarified/status/1853912706052657237

:lol no one is pissed. Her entire reason for existing is to elect Trump.

:lol rube

hater
11-05-2024, 08:36 PM
Gawd damns

https://x.com/GraduatedBen/status/1853973769192141152

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 08:40 PM
i dont know why dems talk themselves into texas hopium every time :lol

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 08:45 PM
:lmao this is great

1853505855544574351

baseline bum
11-05-2024, 08:46 PM
i dont know why dems talk themselves into texas hopium every time :lol

Beto in 2018 was the only chance when he ran an amazing campaign and Cruz was just the same stupid piece of shit. I expect he'll crush the fuck out of Allred.

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 08:55 PM
:lmao all the people who voted for both this initiative as well as trump thinking they're making a great compromise and enlightened centrists

https://i.gyazo.com/568d2715ba5a3a886877b18d1c969178.png

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 09:11 PM
first major doomer projection...

1853983176894685507

lefty
11-05-2024, 09:15 PM
:lmao this is great

1853505855544574351

:lmao

hater
11-05-2024, 09:26 PM
:lmao

https://x.com/ElectionLegal/status/1853918391565983920

spurraider21
11-05-2024, 09:27 PM
DDHQ calling North Carolina for Trump. seems his endorsement of Mark Robinson (who lost badly) didnt hurt him

no standards

Boston Pancake
11-05-2024, 09:33 PM
The big winner is guys like Shane Gillis who get to live off their Trump impersonation for 4 more years.

baseline bum
11-05-2024, 09:36 PM
:lmao all the people who voted for both this initiative as well as trump thinking they're making a great compromise and enlightened centrists

https://i.gyazo.com/568d2715ba5a3a886877b18d1c969178.png

Glad it failed. That state needs to live with the repercussions of its presidential vote.

lefty
11-05-2024, 09:41 PM
If you go to Apple News, and follow the Elections topic you will activate Live Activities to follow the progress , pretty cool stuff

Donald Sterling.
11-05-2024, 09:44 PM
Is it too late to sub ol' Joe back on the field? :lol

Donald Sterling.
11-05-2024, 09:57 PM
BTC about to hit all time high

Orange Man :bobo

vy65
11-05-2024, 09:57 PM
Who’s winning?

Donald Sterling.
11-05-2024, 09:58 PM
Who’s winning?

The jews

baseline bum
11-05-2024, 10:00 PM
Netenyahu

fify

lefty
11-05-2024, 10:01 PM
The jews

:lol

Robz4000
11-05-2024, 10:07 PM
Been working all day and out of the loop. Any chance Allred wins at least?

Winehole23
11-05-2024, 10:12 PM
Glad it failed. That state needs to live with the repercussions of its presidential vote.The failed abortion rights amendment got ~1 million more votes than DeSantis in 2022.


So did Florida, until a 2006 constitutional amendment passed (https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2006/11/08/seven-florida-constitutional-amendments-pass/28510576007/), changing the threshold for voter approval to 60%. Ironically, it passed with only 57.78% of the vote (https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_Amendment_3,_60%25_Majority_Requirement_fo r_Constitutional_Amendments_Amendment_(2006)), one of the last amendments that will ever do so in the state.Florida abortion amendment results. Why 57% yes vote isn't enough (https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/11/05/florida-election-results-abortion-amendment/75992929007/)

hater
11-05-2024, 10:12 PM
If you go to Apple News, and follow the Elections topic you will activate Live Activities to follow the progress , pretty cool stuff

Apple sucks

hater
11-05-2024, 10:13 PM
BTC about to hit all time high

Orange Man :bobo

:tu

Gona hit 85k+ by christmas day

Winehole23
11-05-2024, 10:15 PM
The jewsmaybe that's what Snake Boy was talking about when he said "it's a win/win"

for the Jews, right?

baseline bum
11-05-2024, 10:15 PM
Been working all day and out of the loop. Any chance Allred wins at least?

Probably about the same chance I have of fucking Angie Dickinson tonight

hater
11-05-2024, 10:15 PM
:lmao

https://x.com/TheSigmaAncap/status/1853989904092377181

baseline bum
11-05-2024, 10:16 PM
The failed abortion rights amendment got ~1 million more votes than DeSantis in 2022.

Florida abortion amendment results. Why 57% yes vote isn't enough (https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/11/05/florida-election-results-abortion-amendment/75992929007/)

They voted against abortion rights already. Glad they're stuck with the consequences of that vote.

baseline bum
11-05-2024, 10:18 PM
Welp this one looks about over. 1933 it is.


10:11 PM EST
Harry Enten
As more Pennsylvania counties have 95%+ in, Trump is now outperforming himself from four years by about a point. That would be enough to win if it continues into more counties. Of course, plenty of vote to be counted. But this is a good development for Trump.

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