Year 3 Sochan - Glimpses of his Final Form

[Dejounte]

This is the year we start to see glimpses of who he will be for the rest of his career.

In Year 1, there were a lot of possibilities mentioned of who he could become.

Year 2 showed us who he’s not.

Year 3 is here now and after some preseason games, it’s clear he’s found his niche— he’ll do what others won’t. He’ll roll to the basket all day long. Make cuts when his man isn’t looking. Defend the best players. Seems to find ways to get easy layups. Occasionally post up and pass out. Maybe average two three point attempts all year. Maybe less.

He’s now doing what’s most comfortable to him.

So what is his ceiling if these are the things he continues to improve upon?

I think the closest comparison is Aaron Gordon. On a team that will eventually compete, I think there’s a spot for that archetype, and it may be the most ideal type next to Wemby. In the Olympics, Yubusele played a similar role.

Let’s say that Sochan does become half the player Gordon is (IMO, I think he’s already halfway there), are there many attainable players like that around the league? Probably not… So it’s probably in the Spurs’ best interest to continue nurturing his development and hope he gets closer to what Gordon is every year he’s here.

[BacktoBasics]

The biggest take away is that he’s not being asked to do something completely out of position and out of his comfort zone. I do think he benefited from it but he can now finally work on being the best he can be while staying in his own lane.

[Mr. Body]

I get whiplash from this forum. Are we not supposed to hate Sochan now?

[Dejounte]

I get whiplash from this forum. Are we not supposed to hate Sochan now?

Your “me vs Spurstalk” schtick is getting old. Why don’t you focus on having your own opinion instead of consistently being bothered by other people’s opinions? Nobody cares about this as much as you do. Take a fucking chill pill, get buzzed, do something to make you stop crying about how this forum never has the same opinion as you do.

[TE]

He'll have a more impactful year this year, all else is side noise

[poopbox]

Definitely looks better but let's see how he plays when he is on a scouting report and not just a non shooter standing around Wemby

[tbdog]

I was always on team Sochan. My concern is if Castle and Sochan can share the court together moving forward. Neither is likely going to make a jump shooting leap.

[superbigtime]

I like Sochan but he will never be as good as Aaron Gordon.

[BacktoBasics]

I like Sochan but he will never be as good as Aaron Gordon.

Aaron Gordon isn’t even as good as Aaron Gordon was supposed to be.

[8FOR!3]

Continue developing him he's already a pretty good player. If you somehow get a shot at a guy like Cooper Flagg you probably don't worry too much about Sochan unless one of them can play the three but otherwise he may be our best option next to Wemby for a while.

[SpursBills]

Aaron Gordon's a good goal for him to aspire to, but he doesn't have the strength or athleticism that Gordon possesses in spades - Sochan's probably a B- in both whereas Gordon is an A/A+. But Gordon's the 3rd most important player for a championship core, whereas Sochan hopefully doesn't have to be - his ideal role is probably the 5th starter that cuts well, finds gaps in the defense, knocks down the occasional 3, moves the ball well, pisses everyone off, can attack closeouts, and switch 1-4.

I see him as the big wing version of Lu Dort basically, not in playstyle but more in role as both are versatile defensive players who take what offensive opportunities are given to them and have a talent for pissing off opposing fanbases. One can argue that this type of player is generally more valuable as a forward/wing compared to a guard both due to switchability, rebounding ability, and the fact that it is easier to find an offensive minded guard to make up for Sochan's deficiencies than it is to find a similar wing/forward to make up for Dort's.

EDIT:
Last year at this time if you would have posted this I would have been optimistic and said something like a poor man's Scottie Barnes, but I just don't see that type of development based on what I've seen so far this year, nor are the Spurs likely willing to try him in a similar role after last year's disastrous point guard experiment.

[DAF86]

I was always on team Sochan. My concern is if Castle and Sochan can share the court together moving forward. Neither is likely going to make a jump shooting leap.

This is key. If they are both bad 3 pts shooters, they can't co-exist.

[rankingtear]

Wemby's favorite teammate ain't going anywhere.

[z0sa]

Sochan finally playing in the correct position and being asked to be a rim-runner and wing POA defender = results? Who'd have thought ...

[Dex]

I think we can all agree that the Point Sochan thing was maybe one of the stupidest ideas ever.

If the idea was to help drive another tanking year, well...it certainly worked

[Uriel]

Man, that Aaron Gordon comp gets thrown around a lot. I remember some scouting reports using that in the pre-draft process too for guys like Risacher and Salaun.

[John B]

Like somebody said, develop Sochan as much. But when Spurs get a chance at Cooper Flagg, then you move on. Didn’t the Spurs try to get Markkanen for that position? I wish the Spurs have a shooter and shot blocker at 4, someone like JJJ if Memphis implode. I just don’t think Sochan IS that ideal 4 next to Wemby.

[onechance87]

Gotta hit the 3 ball.Just another average role player.We were expecting him to be more then this.Some expecting kawhi leonard potential.
Which he is not.But i guess i hope to see improvements in the right direction.

[rankingtear]

Gotta hit the 3 ball.Just another average role player.We were expecting him to be more then this.Some expecting kawhi leonard potential.
Which he is not.But i guess i hope to see improvements in the right direction.

That was Pat Bev on his podcast.

[spursparker9]

Gonna be a stretch 4 or he will soon be out of league. He don't have athleticism of Aaron Gordon or the size.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

I don't understand the way so many sports fans think about player development. Jeremy Sochan, age 21, would still be a junior/senior in college right now if he wasn't in the NBA. He will continue to get better as long as he's here because he has shown the drive to do so. Players can continue adding to their games as long as they play, and I would posit that there is no way to guess what Sochan will be at age 25 (same age as Keldon just turned) based on what he does this year.

[montgod]

Comparison speaking, I also see some Ron Artest in there as well. May not have the offensive game that Artest had early on, but he definitely does the dirty work, defends anyone, and occasionally can hit those 3pters when needed.

[TheChillFactor]

i absolutely love him, and i hate watching him play basketball.

he's got to stop fumbling the ball and start finishing the plays that others make for him. his fuckups cost us so much momentum at times.

[CGD]

Speaking of his 3 ball, how has it looked this off season?

[onechance87]

Speaking of his 3 ball, how has it looked this off season?

pretty much the same.

[Mugen]

I need to see the defense take a leap this year tbh. He's been an okay defender thus far that has shown flashes that he can defend different positions. But he needs to be well above average on that front if he wants to keep his starting spot especially with Castle looming.

[exstatic]

pretty much the same.

No. His left hand comes off much earlier, and it has almost no angle rotation. It looks better, as of international play this summer.

[baseline bum]

I love that he's looking a lot stronger at the rim now. Hopefully he can become a net positive player this year.

[Dejounte]

I love that he's looking a lot stronger at the rim now. Hopefully he can become a net positive player this year.

Exactly this. The paint is his bread and butter now and where he needs to continue to excel at.

[Dejounte]

I need to see the defense take a leap this year tbh. He's been an okay defender thus far that has shown flashes that he can defend different positions. But he needs to be well above average on that front if he wants to keep his starting spot especially with Castle looming.

They’ll move Vassell off before they move Sochan, tbh. None of these three have similar traits but Castle can’t be a guy who thrives in the paint like Sochan does because 1) it takes away what he does best which is perimeter playmaking and 2) Castle is strong but Sochan’s tasked with guarding 5’s too and Castle can’t do that for long periods.

[TheChillFactor]

Speaking of his 3 ball, how has it looked this off season?

rotation is better but it is so fucking SLOW coming out of his hand.

[heyheymymy]

I think we can all agree that the Point Sochan thing was maybe one of the stupidest ideas ever.

If the idea was to help drive another tanking year, well...it certainly worked

stupider like a fox!

[Mugen]

They’ll move Vassell off before they move Sochan, tbh. None of these three have similar traits but Castle can’t be a guy who thrives in the paint like Sochan does because 1) it takes away what he does best which is perimeter playmaking and 2) Castle is strong but Sochan’s tasked with guarding 5’s too and Castle can’t do that for long periods.

If we're talking strictly this season, Barnes can do what Sochan does defensively tbh. If we're talking after this season, they can draft a guy that can do what Sochan does and let Castle slip in seamlessly into the SL (Castle was great at cutting at UConn). I think Steph will be in the SL no matter what by next year since CP0 is likely gone but the notion that Sochan should be fully entrenched into the SL without significant improvement is false IMO.

[LeBowen]

If we're talking strictly this season, Barnes can do what Sochan does defensively tbh. If we're talking after this season, they can draft a guy that can do what Sochan does and let Castle slip in seamlessly into the SL (Castle was great at cutting at UConn). I think Steph will be in the SL no matter what by next year since CP0 is likely gone but the notion that Sochan should be fully entrenched into the SL without significant improvement is false IMO.

Agreed.
Jeremy's current skillset just just doesn't fit well with Wemby.
If he doesn't make some big improvements on offense, he should be benched.

I'll say it again, but I feel like people wouldn't rate him so highly if he wasn't cosplaying as Rodman.

[Pauleta14]

I'm going to wait real games and a few weeks to judge him.

I'm rooting for him but he has A LOT more to show that a 3pt % improvement to me. Court vision, ball handling, focus, sustained efforts on D are as important for him to be a core player for the future.

In my book, Spurs only have 3 positions covered to build a contender with Devin, Stephon and Vic.

We badly need to cover 3 (next draft?) and 4 in the next year

[Dejounte]

If we're talking strictly this season, Barnes can do what Sochan does defensively tbh. If we're talking after this season, they can draft a guy that can do what Sochan does and let Castle slip in seamlessly into the SL (Castle was great at cutting at UConn). I think Steph will be in the SL no matter what by next year since CP0 is likely gone but the notion that Sochan should be fully entrenched into the SL without significant improvement is false IMO.

You and LeBowen interpreted my post wrong. I’m not saying Sochan should be entrenched, I’m saying Castle or any perimeter player like him shouldn’t replace Sochan as a PF. A better PF can absolutely replace Sochan.

I also disagree with LeBowen’s notion that he isn’t a good fit with Wemby. A versatile PF that thrives in the paint is exactly what he needs. Not a sharpshooting 4 that everyone’s clamoring for. What I’d hope is that Sochan plays more physical and adopts a bullyball mentality… that’s how he’ll become the perfect fit.

[LeBowen]

You and LeBowen (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=54457) interpreted my post wrong. I’m not saying Sochan should be entrenched, I’m saying Castle or any perimeter player like him shouldn’t replace Sochan as a PF. A better PF can absolutely replace Sochan.

I also disagree with LeBowen’s notion that he isn’t a good fit with Wemby. A versatile PF that thrives in the paint is exactly what he needs. Not a sharpshooting 4 that everyone’s clamoring for. What I’d hope is that Sochan plays more physical and adopts a bullyball mentality… that’s how he’ll become the perfect fit.


The problem is that right now Jeremy isn't a versatile PF.
We went over it many times this summer. I kept repeating that he has to become reliable inside and around the paint, that's as big of an issue right now as his shooting.

Ask yourself, in which situations Jeremy can get the ball and make a difference? Imo, only against guards that are just too small to contain him.

I want him to succeed, but this year will be the most important one for his career trajectory.
If he doesn't take the next step, just bench him next season and get someone who's actually a versatile PF.
Kind of what happened with Keldon. Peaked early and got benched.

Also, I see wing positions as a combo where we need two complementary players.
Obviously it would be ideal to get two complete wings who can do it all, but realistically we need one wing to be an elite shooter who's not a negative on defense and the other one should be the vesatile wing you want.

If we want Gordon at PF, then we also need an elite shooter like MPJ at SF.

That's why Markkanen was the player I wanted the most.
If Jeremy, Devin and Castle live up to their potential, he'd would've been a perfect fit for the starting lineup as Jeremy's wing partner.

[Dejounte]

“I kept repeating that he has to become reliable inside and around the paint”

…and I’m saying he’s looked comfortable and improved in that area so far. We disagree on this point, and that’s ok. My eyes are showing me an improved Jeremy, especially in the area you’re concerned with.

[Dejounte]

And he’s absolutely finding ways to get the ball more often by making precise cuts to the basket and finding better angles to get the ball.

[spurraider21]

my issue with him as a big is that he doesnt seem to have great hands. bobbles a lot of those interior passes. thats a big part of being a paint scorer.

[LeBowen]

“I kept repeating that he has to become reliable inside and around the paint”

…and I’m saying he’s looked comfortable and improved in that area so far. We disagree on this point, and that’s ok. My eyes are showing me an improved Jeremy, especially in the area you’re concerned with.

My bad, I should've clarified I don't take preseason games that seriously.
He's looked better, we'll see how he does when the real thing starts.

My other point still stands.
If Jeremy is the long-term starter, we need a sharpshooter on the other wing.
Especially if Castle is also in the lineup.

[Mugen]

You and LeBowen (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=54457) interpreted my post wrong. I’m not saying Sochan should be entrenched, I’m saying Castle or any perimeter player like him shouldn’t replace Sochan as a PF. A better PF can absolutely replace Sochan.

I also disagree with LeBowen’s notion that he isn’t a good fit with Wemby. A versatile PF that thrives in the paint is exactly what he needs. Not a sharpshooting 4 that everyone’s clamoring for. What I’d hope is that Sochan plays more physical and adopts a bullyball mentality… that’s how he’ll become the perfect fit.

I didn't mean to imply that Castle would be coming for Sochan's spot as the starting 4. I meant that the Castle is looking like he'll be able to do a lot of the things that Sochan currently does (switchability on defense, cutting to the hoop). Obviously he hasn't played a minute in the reg season yet but if Castle does end up becoming proficient at those things, I think it makes the decision to move Jeremy to the bench a lot easier and just put in a "big" with shooting ability (Harrison Barnes this year, or draft a Liam McNeely for next season)

I also disagree with your assessment that Vasell would be more likely taken out of the SL than Jeremy. Devin is IMO the 2nd most important player on the team and I think they have to continue to prioritize his development over somebody like Sochan if it came down to it tbh.

I do agree with you that an idealized version of Sochan is a great fit next to Vic. I'd love to see more of what we saw out of him against Miami with less butterfingers and better D. I'm still pulling for the kid tbh.

[Dejounte]

Yeah, he’s had shit turnovers. Right now I’m filing that under unfamiliarity with his new point guards on the team who aren’t making predictable, soft passes to him like before. Let’s see if it gets better.

[ismael-robert]

He'll peak year 6

[BackHome]

Vassell has a lot of things he need to improve upon one is getting to the line as to many times he has an open lane but takes the mid range shoot. Heck even Gervin said he told him to take it to the rim more as he was lowering his shooting average by not getting easy points.

As far as Sochan I have liked what I have seen so far as all I am looking is for a Physical player who sets hard picks fights for rebounds and can score 10 to 15 a game.

[scott]

I haven’t watched the Pre-season as super closely as others,, but he has shown some improvement which is a positive.

I agree with others than the 3P% is going to be the key to what his ultimate form is. If it doesn’t come around, then I think he still provides plenty of value as a bench role player in the long run. The mere fact that he and Steph can take turns to guard guys like SGA and Luka over 48 minutes is in and of itself a major boon to the team.

Hopefully we see a big leap this year. I think a large part of it will just be a matter of concentration. Last season it seemed like there were times he just switched off due to a lack of focus. Honestly I’m surprised there hasn’t been more yelling in his general direction from Pop… but that’s probably just more of Pop getting soft with age.

[rankingtear]

Like somebody said, develop Sochan as much. But when Spurs get a chance at Cooper Flagg, then you move on. Didn’t the Spurs try to get Markkanen for that position? I wish the Spurs have a shooter and shot blocker at 4, someone like JJJ if Memphis implode. I just don’t think Sochan IS that ideal 4 next to Wemby.

JJJ is on a whole different price point than Sochan. Jabari Smith Jr. vs Jeremy Sochan is a better topic of debate. Rim protection + spot up shooting vs perimeter defense + connective passing and ballhandling on a role player projected salary.

[sfernald]

Agreed.
Jeremy's current skillset just just doesn't fit well with Wemby.
If he doesn't make some big improvements on offense, he should be benched.

I'll say it again, but I feel like people wouldn't rate him so highly if he wasn't cosplaying as Rodman.

I have always liked Sochan, but I feel like lately I’m becoming more disenchanted with him. I am actually disappointed that he’s still so thin and not as muscular as a Rodman type. He seems smaller and less athletic out there than you hope a dominating Rodman type should be. By his third season, I was expecting to look a bit ripped but I’m just not seeing it. Also, he’s one of these “Butter Hands” guys. Great when under the rim, but his hands…. lol

[Ice009]

Vassell has a lot of things he need to improve upon one is getting to the line as to many times he has an open lane but takes the mid range shoot. Heck even Gervin said he told him to take it to the rim more as he was lowering his shooting average by not getting easy points.

As far as Sochan I have liked what I have seen so far as all I am looking is for a Physical player who sets hard picks fights for rebounds and can score 10 to 15 a game.

When did George Gervin tell him to take it to the rack more? Has he worked with Devin at some point, or was it jus some advice he gave him? If Devin could do that, it'd make a huge difference to his game and for the team.
I've always wondered why Devin doesn't get to the rim more. Does he not have the handles, or just doesn't like contact?

[exstatic]

When did George Gervin tell him to take it to the rack more? Has he worked with Devin at some point, or was it jus some advice he gave him? If Devin could do that, it'd make a huge difference to his game and for the team.
I've always wondered why Devin doesn't get to the rim more. Does he not have the handles, or just doesn't like contact?

They did one of those Spurs Stories videos, where they paired a youngster with a legend. They paired Sochan with Parker. Devin drew Ice, and it turns out that Devin’s dad was a HUGE Ice fan. The suggestion was probably during that interview.

[LeBowen]

They did one of those Spurs Stories videos, where they paired a youngster with a legend. They paired Sochan with Parker. Devin drew Ice, and it turns out that Devin’s dad was a HUGE Ice fan. The suggestion was probably during that interview.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYiGhPsCD7I

[RC_Drunkford]

If we're talking strictly this season, Barnes can do what Sochan does defensively tbh. If we're talking after this season, they can draft a guy that can do what Sochan does and let Castle slip in seamlessly into the SL (Castle was great at cutting at UConn). I think Steph will be in the SL no matter what by next year since CP0 is likely gone but the notion that Sochan should be fully entrenched into the SL without significant improvement is false IMO.

Barnes can’t guard anybody

[Ice009]

They did one of those Spurs Stories videos, where they paired a youngster with a legend. They paired Sochan with Parker. Devin drew Ice, and it turns out that Devin’s dad was a HUGE Ice fan. The suggestion was probably during that interview.

Awesome. Would those videos be up on Youtube at all? If not, any idea where I could find them?

Edit : Thanks for the link, LeBowen. When I posted I was on the previous page so I never saw it until after posting.

[exstatic]

Awesome. Would those videos be up on Youtube at all? If not, any idea where I could find them?

One of them is embedded two posts above yours…

[exstatic]

Barnes can’t guard anybody

Barnes is lauded here,but if he were a Spur,he’d be reviled like Sochan.

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/zwRuapjOyTg?feature=shared

[RC_Drunkford]

I hope he can keep that type of production up. This is what I meant when I talked about the 3rd year leap. He was killing Sengun in that game

[couchman]

Sochan is off to a very strong start this season.
Averaging 19 and 9 on 52% shooting, mostly 2pt field goals.
The rebounding is the most encouraging stat and I hope that continues.
The comp early on was a Draymond / Boris Diaw mashup and he’s looking more like that guy.
Biggest remaining area for improvement is assists and turnovers.
I don’t expect him to ever be a consistent 3pt shooter and that may be ok.

[spursparker9]

His efforts on rebounding shown a glimpses of Rodman-esque tbh

[Maddog]

Sochan is off to a very strong start this season.
Averaging 19 and 9 on 52% shooting, mostly 2pt field goals.
The rebounding is the most encouraging stat and I hope that continues.
The comp early on was a Draymond / Boris Diaw mashup and he’s looking more like that guy.
Biggest remaining area for improvement is assists and turnovers.
I don’t expect him to ever be a consistent 3pt shooter and that may be ok.

It may be a stretch- but if he ever became a competent 3pt shooter he turns into a different player. He definitely has the handles to penetrate.
Of course if Castle ever gets a 3pt shot.....

[Dex]

Love the energy and effort he brings, but man that three point shot is looking busted.

I know when you change your form, things are probably going to get worse before they get better but the mechanics are just all out of whack right now.

[rascal]

Devin isn't as talented/athletic as Gervin was. He doesn't have the abilities of Gervin( getting to the rim and attacking off the dribble to draw fouls).

[Atl Spur]

Not versatile? lol JS is super versatile but he’s not the best shooter as we all know. Last year was the gift that keeps giving, it helped him to become more comfortable in grab/go situations as well as initiate offense better. We also were able to grab Stephon Castle….. He will need to continue polishing his game.

[ambchang]

As much as I enjoy sochan I think his production will drop somewhat. I’d be ecstatic if he can turn into a 15/8/4 guy, shooting 50% from the field and hopefully about 30% from three.

Love his hustle, love his attitude, his decision making is decent given his age and position, he has to learn how to react quicker with the ball, and obviously actually shoot the damn ball when open.

So happy for him, he’s still my favourite current spur, but castle is moving in fast. I love both of their games but even I would acknowledge it’s really hard to have both on the floor the way they shoot.

The attitude and talent is always there but this year he is really settling into a role that fits. He is really a role player but a darn good one.

[spurraider21]

his offensive production has been nice this year, and most of that has still come from him being an opportunistic scorer (and thats a good thing). finding ways to put yourself in position to catch and score is valuable, and despite being undersized and not particularly explosive, his finishing in the paint looks quite good so far.

also looks like he's basically abandoned the three point shot, which also isnt exactly a bad thing.

while his defense against doncic was admirable in game 1, he hasnt really made an impact on that end in either houston game, and i still think for him to get by as a garbage man on offense, he's going to have to be very productive/impactful defensively to justify a long term starting gig

[DAF86]

Sochan is playing exactly how Wemby should: setting screens and rolling with purpose, making smarts cuts to the basket, posting up, bullying people inside.

[exstatic]

Sochan is playing exactly how Wemby should: setting screens and rolling with purpose, making smarts cuts to the basket, posting up, bullying people inside.

They’re not doubling and tripling Sochan. Wemby is walled off from the roll move most possessions. They’ll just let the guard go most of the time.

[z0sa]

Sochan's been a pleasant surprise to start the season, but his outside/face up shot looks worse than ever. They must be completely rebuilding it ... I hope. His little faders in the lane that were just ugly and missed most of the time last season actually look pretty good though. Maybe he should try fading a bit on his shots or whatever is going to help him stay focused when shooting outside of the paint.

[baseline bum]

Devin isn't as talented/athletic as Gervin was. He doesn't have the abilities of Gervin( getting to the rim and attacking off the dribble to draw fouls).

I mean the only person as talented as Ice on this team is Wemby so not really a knock on Vassell.

[spurraider21]

Sochan's been a pleasant surprise to start the season, but his outside/face up shot looks worse than ever. They must be completely rebuilding it ... I hope. His little faders in the lane that were just ugly and missed most of the time last season actually look pretty good though. Maybe he should try fading a bit on his shots or whatever is going to help him stay focused when shooting outside of the paint.
might not be the worst thing for him to more or less abandon that shot. sure, if he catches the ball wide open with less than 4 on the clock, load it up and fire... but he shouldnt really be hunting outside jumpers anyway. as long as he has that short turnaround jumper and his touch/footwork in the paint is legit, he should be ok. i'm mostly just disappointed that his passing hasnt really translated. i had visions of him being draymond-lite, but hasnt really happened. at this point he's aspiring to be something closer to aaron gordon but he has a lot less strength/explosion.

either way, he needs to be more of an impactful defender

[Kawhi Duncan]

Sochan is playing exactly how Wemby should: setting screens and rolling with purpose, making smarts cuts to the basket, posting up, bullying people inside.

Wemby can't play that way because there's no spacing... That's why Sochan looks good... No one guards him... But that comes at the expense of Wemby's growth, development, and confidence... When Wemby rolls, sochan's man is there cutting it off... When Sochan rolls, the lane is clear because Wemby's man has to stay on him... That's y I've been saying we won't won a championship with Sochan being the best version of himself, but we will win one with Wemby being the best version of himself... Wemby CANNOT be the best version of himself consistently when Sochan is on the floor with him

[KingKev]

I love what I see with Sochan early. Just go get cleanup points around the basket, run, rebound, play hard D and shoot the occasional open 3 to keep defenders honest. He will never be a top offensive weapon but his hustle and grit alone make him very valuable. He has the ability to be a very important contributing piece on well oil machine.

I actually see him slowly phasing out Keldon as that energy guy.

[Kevin]

The rebounding growth spurt is huge to making him a viable player. Modern day PF's who can't shoot the 3 ball and are weak rebounders wont survive. If can just make 30% of his three's he should be fine. 15/8 Sochan with good defense is Aaron Gordon with a worse three point shot but a more versatile defender.

[exstatic]

There are only two players on this squad who have surprised me on a dunk: Wemby, numerous times, and Sochan on the baseline drive late, bumping Sengün and two hand flushing it over the top of ol’ Alpie. THAT was a confident play.

[Atl Spur]

Can someone please bump that Sochan thread?