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    This is the year we start to see glimpses of who he will be for the rest of his career.

    In Year 1, there were a lot of possibilities mentioned of who he could become.

    Year 2 showed us who he’s not.

    Year 3 is here now and after some preseason games, it’s clear he’s found his niche— he’ll do what others won’t. He’ll roll to the basket all day long. Make cuts when his man isn’t looking. Defend the best players. Seems to find ways to get easy layups. Occasionally post up and pass out. Maybe average two three point attempts all year. Maybe less.

    He’s now doing what’s most comfortable to him.

    So what is his ceiling if these are the things he continues to improve upon?

    I think the closest comparison is Aaron Gordon. On a team that will eventually compete, I think there’s a spot for that archetype, and it may be the most ideal type next to Wemby. In the Olympics, Yubusele played a similar role.

    Let’s say that Sochan does become half the player Gordon is (IMO, I think he’s already halfway there), are there many attainable players like that around the league? Probably not… So it’s probably in the Spurs’ best interest to continue nurturing his development and hope he gets closer to what Gordon is every year he’s here.

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    The biggest take away is that he’s not being asked to do something completely out of position and out of his comfort zone. I do think he benefited from it but he can now finally work on being the best he can be while staying in his own lane.

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    I get whiplash from this forum. Are we not supposed to hate Sochan now?

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    I get whiplash from this forum. Are we not supposed to hate Sochan now?
    Your “me vs Spurstalk” schtick is getting old. Why don’t you focus on having your own opinion instead of consistently being bothered by other people’s opinions? Nobody cares about this as much as you do. Take a ing chill pill, get buzzed, do something to make you stop crying about how this forum never has the same opinion as you do.

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    He'll have a more impactful year this year, all else is side noise

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    Definitely looks better but let's see how he plays when he is on a scouting report and not just a non shooter standing around Wemby

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    I was always on team Sochan. My concern is if Castle and Sochan can share the court together moving forward. Neither is likely going to make a jump shooting leap.

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    I like Sochan but he will never be as good as Aaron Gordon.

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    I like Sochan but he will never be as good as Aaron Gordon.
    Aaron Gordon isn’t even as good as Aaron Gordon was supposed to be.

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    Continue developing him he's already a pretty good player. If you somehow get a shot at a guy like Cooper Flagg you probably don't worry too much about Sochan unless one of them can play the three but otherwise he may be our best option next to Wemby for a while.

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    Aaron Gordon's a good goal for him to aspire to, but he doesn't have the strength or athleticism that Gordon possesses in spades - Sochan's probably a B- in both whereas Gordon is an A/A+. But Gordon's the 3rd most important player for a championship core, whereas Sochan hopefully doesn't have to be - his ideal role is probably the 5th starter that cuts well, finds gaps in the defense, knocks down the occasional 3, moves the ball well, pisses everyone off, can attack closeouts, and switch 1-4.

    I see him as the big wing version of Lu Dort basically, not in playstyle but more in role as both are versatile defensive players who take what offensive opportunities are given to them and have a talent for pissing off opposing fanbases. One can argue that this type of player is generally more valuable as a forward/wing compared to a guard both due to switchability, rebounding ability, and the fact that it is easier to find an offensive minded guard to make up for Sochan's deficiencies than it is to find a similar wing/forward to make up for Dort's.

    EDIT:
    Last year at this time if you would have posted this I would have been optimistic and said something like a poor man's Scottie Barnes, but I just don't see that type of development based on what I've seen so far this year, nor are the Spurs likely willing to try him in a similar role after last year's disastrous point guard experiment.
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    I was always on team Sochan. My concern is if Castle and Sochan can share the court together moving forward. Neither is likely going to make a jump shooting leap.
    This is key. If they are both bad 3 pts shooters, they can't co-exist.

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    Wemby's favorite teammate ain't going anywhere.

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    Sochan finally playing in the correct position and being asked to be a rim-runner and wing POA defender = results? Who'd have thought ...

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    I think we can all agree that the Point Sochan thing was maybe one of the stupidest ideas ever.

    If the idea was to help drive another tanking year, well...it certainly worked

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    Man, that Aaron Gordon comp gets thrown around a lot. I remember some scouting reports using that in the pre-draft process too for guys like Risacher and Salaun.

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    Like somebody said, develop Sochan as much. But when Spurs get a chance at Cooper Flagg, then you move on. Didn’t the Spurs try to get Markkanen for that position? I wish the Spurs have a shooter and shot blocker at 4, someone like JJJ if Memphis implode. I just don’t think Sochan IS that ideal 4 next to Wemby.

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    Gotta hit the 3 ball.Just another average role player.We were expecting him to be more then this.Some expecting kawhi leonard potential.
    Which he is not.But i guess i hope to see improvements in the right direction.

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    Gotta hit the 3 ball.Just another average role player.We were expecting him to be more then this.Some expecting kawhi leonard potential.
    Which he is not.But i guess i hope to see improvements in the right direction.
    That was Pat Bev on his podcast.

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    Gonna be a stretch 4 or he will soon be out of league. He don't have athleticism of Aaron Gordon or the size.

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    I don't understand the way so many sports fans think about player development. Jeremy Sochan, age 21, would still be a junior/senior in college right now if he wasn't in the NBA. He will continue to get better as long as he's here because he has shown the drive to do so. Players can continue adding to their games as long as they play, and I would posit that there is no way to guess what Sochan will be at age 25 (same age as Keldon just turned) based on what he does this year.

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    Comparison speaking, I also see some Ron Artest in there as well. May not have the offensive game that Artest had early on, but he definitely does the dirty work, defends anyone, and occasionally can hit those 3pters when needed.

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    i absolutely love him, and i hate watching him play basketball.

    he's got to stop fumbling the ball and start finishing the plays that others make for him. his ups cost us so much momentum at times.

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    Speaking of his 3 ball, how has it looked this off season?

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    Speaking of his 3 ball, how has it looked this off season?
    pretty much the same.

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