View Full Version : Game Thread: Spurs vs. Houston 10/28/2024, really this time.
LeBowen
10-28-2024, 09:02 PM
Let's see if we can actually win this.
TekXX
10-28-2024, 09:02 PM
Wow Spurs turned it on, are they actually playing well?
skin27
10-28-2024, 09:02 PM
Deficit Cut down to 4pts
Leetonidas
10-28-2024, 09:02 PM
Wemby finding ways to make an impact. Good to see
NASpurs
10-28-2024, 09:03 PM
This is shit like the other game but vice versa.
Kawhi Duncan
10-28-2024, 09:03 PM
See what happens with no Sochan and Wemby surrounded by ppl who can somewhat shoot?
heyheymymy
10-28-2024, 09:03 PM
holy fuck Branham looks like a god damn grown ass man out there
NASpurs
10-28-2024, 09:03 PM
See what happens with no Sochan and Wemby surrounded by ppl who can somewhat shoot?
Yeah just wait though, game isn't over. Pop won't learn from it.
Devi8or
10-28-2024, 09:04 PM
Branham putting in some big shots wow
Sengun has no moves aside from hooking the Defenders waist or plowing into them, he plays like a pick up player
Kawhi Duncan
10-28-2024, 09:05 PM
Wemby isn't a good iso player against a lot of players. Folks should accept this rather than trying to force it. It's not a matter spacing, teammates or coaching. Wemby can't post up and can't beat most players off the dribble. He should be playing in a catch-and-shoot role way more. It's a mental switch he needs to have, and Pop needs to help him get that. He should be well out of that "spam call for pass" phase.
He needs to play as a cutter, or coming off screens and making a move... Too tall to dribble against guards 1 on 1 unless he has space to get a running start
Dejounte
10-28-2024, 09:07 PM
That castle on dillon layup was something else
scott
10-28-2024, 09:07 PM
Keldon been straight doodoo from 3pt this season
jesterbobman
10-28-2024, 09:08 PM
The lack of spacing makes us look so much better with Branham on the court. I don't think Malaki is great (not at replacement level in his first two years), but shooting and a bit of scoring juice is really needed, especially without Devin.
Not a shock (I mean, lots of people here wanted Dilly for the same reason) but it can be a bit shocking how adding a bad version of a needed element can be useful.
scott
10-28-2024, 09:09 PM
Unnecessary logo 3s from Wemby... why
Dejounte
10-28-2024, 09:10 PM
Wemby has to cut it out with those logo 3’s. This game was lost because of him tbh
Dejounte
10-28-2024, 09:11 PM
Branham giveth Branham taketh
Splits
10-28-2024, 09:11 PM
fucking wtf such a crucial possession and we get a 40 foot brick from Wemby with like 15 on the shot clock
weeks
10-28-2024, 09:12 PM
Wemby has to cut it out with those logo 3’s. This game was lost because of him tbh
yeah i cringe when he makes those because i know it means he's gonna keep heavin them up there
Dejounte
10-28-2024, 09:12 PM
This is why Branham needs to sit his ass down. Just boneheaded play after boneheaded play. He really is like Lonnie.
Strategic
10-28-2024, 09:12 PM
Need one more hot hand
Gibbz
10-28-2024, 09:13 PM
Keldon clanking that wide open 3 Wemby set up was deflating.
Rosewood
10-28-2024, 09:13 PM
Nice timeout Pop.
scott
10-28-2024, 09:13 PM
Pop calling timeouts to help Rockets make challenges. HOF level 4d chess there.
onechance87
10-28-2024, 09:13 PM
dumbass pop
Kawhi Duncan
10-28-2024, 09:14 PM
Wemby is so afraid of physical play... That's his downfall... Pop needs to coach him out of that
Barfunk
10-28-2024, 09:15 PM
The missed chippies are so frustrating
scott
10-28-2024, 09:15 PM
Appreciate Houston calling that timeout for us... needed CP3 back in this game like 2 minutes ago.
Gibbz
10-28-2024, 09:15 PM
Jesus Christ, Jeremy
onechance87
10-28-2024, 09:16 PM
finish that easy shot sochan fck
Barfunk
10-28-2024, 09:16 PM
Pop calling timeouts to help Rockets make challenges. HOF level 4d chess there.
Lol
NASpurs
10-28-2024, 09:16 PM
Pop calling timeouts to help Rockets make challenges. HOF level 4d chess there.
Wouldn't be Pop if he's not bending over for a ex-colleague of his.
Kawhi Duncan
10-28-2024, 09:16 PM
Sochan with the low IQ layup in traffic with Barnes wide open in the corner... You have to punish the rockets for packing the paint
bbarry
10-28-2024, 09:16 PM
wemby gonna play the full 4th quarter? he's been in since 1:22 in the 3rd.
weeks
10-28-2024, 09:17 PM
ime seems to have done a pretty good job with this houston team. they're playing with good energy and strong defense
Trainwreck2100
10-28-2024, 09:18 PM
bout fucking time they called that shit, brooks's entire defense is two hands on wemby at the top
WTF do we have CP3 if we are just letting Wemby dribble up the floor and get pressured at half court?
8FOR!3
10-28-2024, 09:19 PM
ime seems to have done a pretty good job with this houston team. they're playing with good energy and strong defense
They have a ton of athleticism and Dillon Brooks is just an annoying defender when he's on his game.
TekXX
10-28-2024, 09:19 PM
lol Brooks with the low I.Q foul at midcourt.
scott
10-28-2024, 09:21 PM
Trading 2s for 3s... not gonna cut it
heyheymymy
10-28-2024, 09:21 PM
Sochan with that bully move
scott
10-28-2024, 09:22 PM
Jesus Christ, can someone start coaching Wemby how to play team basketball?
skin27
10-28-2024, 09:22 PM
This L is on wemby
onechance87
10-28-2024, 09:22 PM
oh wemby
Leetonidas
10-28-2024, 09:23 PM
Fucking stupid play victor
Dejounte
10-28-2024, 09:23 PM
Terrible ISO shot by Wemby. That shit is just not for him
LeBowen
10-28-2024, 09:23 PM
I'm actually glad Wemby is missing these dumb shots, he's smart enough to realize he shouldn't be taking them.
weeks
10-28-2024, 09:23 PM
wemby really thinks he's kd
Wemby might need to learn to get over his hero complex...he takes some dumbass shots
Barfunk
10-28-2024, 09:24 PM
Game over. Comeback tease.
onechance87
10-28-2024, 09:24 PM
why is keldon still in the game
SPURt
10-28-2024, 09:24 PM
Yuck Keldon
NASpurs
10-28-2024, 09:24 PM
Jesus Christ Keldon...
Gibbz
10-28-2024, 09:24 PM
There's another silver platter 3 missed by Keldon.
skin27
10-28-2024, 09:24 PM
Fck keldon
timtonymanu
10-28-2024, 09:24 PM
Of course small time miss from Keldon
Uriel
10-28-2024, 09:25 PM
Missed layup and open 3 by Keldon. Good shots, just didn't fall.
Leetonidas
10-28-2024, 09:25 PM
Wtf happened to keldons shot. Dude is a straight brick layer
Splits
10-28-2024, 09:25 PM
lmao closing with Keldon and Branham. Good job Pop.
Gibbz
10-28-2024, 09:25 PM
Wemby might need to learn to get over his hero complex...he takes some dumbass shots
We've seen him hit hero complex shit. Who TF else is gonna do anything on this team with Devin out?
scott
10-28-2024, 09:25 PM
Glad we lost this game. Hopefully Wemby watches this tape and gets the message that he needs to play a different game.
And hopefully Brian Wright watched this game and realized how fucking stupid it is to construct a roster with no shooters.
TDomination
10-28-2024, 09:25 PM
Based on his positioning on the court, it seems like Wemby is playing either the 2 spot or 3 spot. He has not been inside at all on offense.
timtonymanu
10-28-2024, 09:25 PM
Keldon can go fuck off somewhere else. He’s not a reliable 6th man.
Uriel
10-28-2024, 09:26 PM
CP4!!!
onechance87
10-28-2024, 09:26 PM
Missed layup and open 3 by Keldon. Good shots, just didn't fall.
but we needed them bad that moment.
NASpurs
10-28-2024, 09:26 PM
Next game is in OKC. That should be fun. :lol
Looks like defender came under Paul too
timtonymanu
10-28-2024, 09:27 PM
Wtf happened to keldons shot. Dude is a straight brick layer
He’s just so streaky but he’s also not that good. Just an average player that we’re asking to play a 6th man role.
scott
10-28-2024, 09:28 PM
A flagrant could really change this game......
timtonymanu
10-28-2024, 09:29 PM
Spurs getting so lucky from the basketball gods but we know these faggots are about to brick more shots
scott
10-28-2024, 09:29 PM
There we go... this one ain't over. Unless Wemby goes all Dak Prescott and buttfucks away the chance to make this a game.
TekXX
10-28-2024, 09:29 PM
4 point max rule? First i've heard of that
Uriel
10-28-2024, 09:30 PM
Wemby shitting on SpursTalk :lol
skin27
10-28-2024, 09:30 PM
Van vleet fck
8FOR!3
10-28-2024, 09:30 PM
Keldon Johnson doesn't bring much of anything to the table at this point. We would be much better off with a 3&D player as a backup 3. I'd as soon as Champagnie get his minutes off the bench.
timtonymanu
10-28-2024, 09:30 PM
And then you leave their shooter wide open.
Lol pop at his “I’m setting up a defensive roster” talk
100%duncan
10-28-2024, 09:30 PM
Helping off of shooters jfc
scott
10-28-2024, 09:30 PM
Let's just leave FVV wide open. Good idea.
Dejounte
10-28-2024, 09:31 PM
Fuck FVV
Leetonidas
10-28-2024, 09:31 PM
The one thing the spurs can't do is give up a wide open three and what do they do?? :lmao
Gibbz
10-28-2024, 09:31 PM
Keldon destroyed any chance in the 4th.
KobesAchilles
10-28-2024, 09:31 PM
I admit to not seeing the game. I’m watching the World Series, but is there a reason why Wemby has only shot the ball 11 times? Are we ignoring him or is he being a passive little b?
skin27
10-28-2024, 09:31 PM
Fck keldon leaving van voeet wide open! Low basket ball IQ
emanueldavidginobili
10-28-2024, 09:31 PM
The fuck was Keldon doing there defensively my god.
Rosewood
10-28-2024, 09:31 PM
The one thing the spurs can't do is give up a wide open three and what do they do?? :lmao the
LeBowen
10-28-2024, 09:32 PM
Can never be happy with a loss, but I'm content with this.
Fought hard to stay in the game and almost came back.
Barnes being a non-factor was the most disappointing thing, tbh.
timtonymanu
10-28-2024, 09:32 PM
Please get rid of Keldon. I hate hearing the sniffers on Reddit say he’s irreplaceable because he has 1 good game out of 5 and knows how to yell after making good plays.
This is a good loss. Lot to learn and let's be honest, this team needs one more lottery pick.
8FOR!3
10-28-2024, 09:33 PM
I admit to not seeing the game. I’m watching the World Series, but is there a reason why Wemby has only shot the ball 11 times? Are we ignoring him or is he being a passive little b?
He's being double teamed a lot 1. And we give him the ball in the high post too much.
ace3g
10-28-2024, 09:33 PM
Why do we continue to help and leave someone open for 3...
Atl Spur
10-28-2024, 09:33 PM
Pop gave them this game; why is Keldon in vs castle? Gtfoh
NASpurs
10-28-2024, 09:33 PM
Pop gave them this game; why is Keldon in vs castle? Gtfoh
:wow
Someone put this on a poster.
weeks
10-28-2024, 09:34 PM
we even got a 6 point possession but it wasn't enough to put this game away
TekXX
10-28-2024, 09:34 PM
Wemby is like gumby when he goes for those dunks
timtonymanu
10-28-2024, 09:34 PM
Sochan chirping at vanvleet. Usually I would agree but cmon spurs, show you’re a competent team before shit talking others.
BackHome
10-28-2024, 09:35 PM
Good day for the Tankers Hawk loose back to back and we have a kinda fun game at least we kept it close
Frenchfred
10-28-2024, 09:35 PM
at least it is not as bad of a loss, with Vassel back we should have more firing power
onechance87
10-28-2024, 09:35 PM
Pop overused branham and keldon this game.Branham made some shots,Now send him bck to the bench.Should of had castle
close out the game pop dumbass instead both those guys.
Why do we continue to help and leave someone open for 3...
Especially when we have the best shot blocker in the league protecting the rim if a guy gets beat.
scott
10-28-2024, 09:36 PM
In the Pooper for Cooper
NASpurs
10-28-2024, 09:36 PM
Imagine being Supreme Ruler of the Spurs organization and you have no accountability. It's the times we're living in.
Remember last year when everyone hated Sochan. He's showing some good stuff so far this season.
onechance87
10-28-2024, 09:37 PM
This is a good loss. Lot to learn and let's be honest, this team needs one more lottery pick.
We been learning about loses the last several years.This is a terrible loss bro.
NASpurs
10-28-2024, 09:39 PM
We been learning about loses the last several years.This is a terrible loss bro.
Now we're learning how to lose with CP3 and Barnes.
How about you start learning how to win :lol
LeBowen
10-28-2024, 09:39 PM
Remember last year when everyone hated Sochan. He's showing some good stuff so far this season.
Looks like he's done some serious work on his post game, looks good.
That's what I wanted this summer, we know his shot isn't going to improve right away, but he had to improve his paint presence.
Atl Spur
10-28-2024, 09:39 PM
:wow
Someone put this on a poster.
This bitch boy don’t know when to stop huh? You got my attention trick….speak
rankingtear
10-28-2024, 09:40 PM
Sochan may have more upside than we think.
BackHome
10-28-2024, 09:40 PM
Remember last year when everyone hated Sochan. He's showing some good stuff so far this season.
Yep, he had 9 rebounds to go with his 22 points I am very happy with that.
NASpurs
10-28-2024, 09:40 PM
This bitch boy don’t know when to stop huh? You got my attention trick….speak
Someone sounds cranky. Might be past your bed time.
Bill_Brasky
10-28-2024, 09:41 PM
Why the fuck is Keldon/Branham playing at the end. Where the fuck is Castle?
sananspursfan21
10-28-2024, 09:41 PM
Sochan has grown. Spurs could have the best front court next season.
Embarrassing first half sunk this ship.
Second half was much better but that sequence with what, 5 straight attempts right below the rim and missed every single one of them. They boarded well but it didn’t matter because they couldn’t drop the ball in a lake.
Caused a lot of errors down the stretch with but couldn’t make em pay. Also gambled on the wrong guys to miss wide open threes. I don’t care what Green was doing, I’d rather leave him open than VanVleet.
I hate hate hate these winnable losses.
barakz21
10-28-2024, 09:41 PM
Hmmmm.. Green going supernova from 3, our threes not falling, Wemby not getting hot and everyone else struggling? I’ll take it, especially after it was looking like a blowout early on.
sananspursfan21
10-28-2024, 09:43 PM
Also, Wemby came up big in some other areas tonight, but where was his scoring? Not gonna win many games with him in the 12-15 range
Atl Spur
10-28-2024, 09:43 PM
Someone sounds cranky. Might be past your bed time.
You smiling? Pussy wet now? Floor is yours….. NAtalk, tell us how you feel.
james evans
10-28-2024, 09:44 PM
This is a 3 point shooting league. Teams shoot more 3s than they do midrange and we continue to let teams shoot wide open 3s every game hoping they will miss.
sananspursfan21
10-28-2024, 09:44 PM
There’s things to like here, but just as many things to burn you up. I guess it coulda been worse. Doesn’t help it was the Rockettes
Kuvai
10-28-2024, 09:46 PM
Our Perimeter D is worst in the league.
Every one leaving every one wide open.
Prime Pop should have been so un happy. Pop not giving a damn now.
timtonymanu
10-28-2024, 09:49 PM
This is a 3 point shooting league. Teams shoot more 3s than they do midrange and we continue to let teams shoot wide open 3s every game hoping they will miss.
Apparently to the spurs it’s not. Its the reason they keep drafting non shooters while pretending those same non shooters are elite at defense
skin27
10-28-2024, 09:49 PM
Also, Wemby came up big in some other areas tonight, but where was his scoring? Not gonna win many games with him in the 12-15 range
he let dillon brooks shut him down!
timtonymanu
10-28-2024, 09:49 PM
You smiling? Pussy wet now? Floor is yours….. NAtalk, tell us how you feel.
Atl has a sore vagina again. :lol
thiste
10-28-2024, 09:50 PM
Also, Wemby came up big in some other areas tonight, but where was his scoring? Not gonna win many games with him in the 12-15 range
Houston just came back with a DON'T LET WEMBY INSIDE UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE AND FOCUS ON HIM ALL NIGHT LET OTHERS BEAT US strategy and it worked tonight. That's not gonna be the whole season don't worry.
Brooks was the main defender but they all collapsed on him as soon as he passed the 3 pt line, did you guys not notice? It was a team strategy, not just one guy.
NASpurs
10-28-2024, 09:50 PM
You smiling? Pussy wet now? Floor is yours….. NAtalk, tell us how you feel.
I'm good brah.
Why so cranky? Did the nurse take the happy pills away?
tim_duncan_fan
10-28-2024, 09:50 PM
This team — Sochan, Keldon, even Wemby at times — is still too damned goofy at inopportune times.
Like, just grab a fucking rebound instead of dinking it off 6 teammate hands and then letting the other team grab it. Stop leaving known 3-point shooters to double-team nobodies. And in turn, nobody bricks open 3s like the modern Spurs. It's the same kind of dumb shit from the last 5-6 years.
Start working on Castle's jumpshot now. And don't fucking leave up to him to work on it during the summer. Program that shit. 1000 3s every day this coming offseason. Nobody wants to be saying "if only he had a jumper" in 3 years.
I admit to not seeing the game. I’m watching the World Series, but is there a reason why Wemby has only shot the ball 11 times? Are we ignoring him or is he being a passive little b?
His offensive game is actually pretty limited, and any stout player, like Dillon Brooks, will keep him out of the paint. At present, his advantage is that most any sort of jumper is always technically kind of open because he is so tall. I guess he needs to just shoot more Js.
I'm kind of starting to wish he was more 6'11-7' with a strong body.
Regardless, in the offseason he needs to work on a go-to post move.
Larry O
10-28-2024, 09:54 PM
SMH... I'd rather to have had HB40 in crunch time than KJ for shooting and defense at least.
Pauleta14
10-28-2024, 09:56 PM
Today's loss is on Pop and Vic . Those absurd rotations killed us and Wemby can't be that passive on offense for 3QT.
onechance87
10-28-2024, 09:58 PM
SMH... I'd rather to have had HB40 in crunch time than KJ for shooting and defense at least.
yup....Pop dont learn.Hes tries to be smart with his rotations and game plan to much.
hoopdreams11
10-28-2024, 10:11 PM
kj’s shot is back to looking like a catapult
Chinook
10-28-2024, 10:16 PM
Keldon had his moments, but if Pop had put Champ in there for the last two or three minutes, the Spurs would've completed the comeback. Johnson isn't a good perimeter defender. He doesn't have good mobility even at the lower weight. When he's not hitting shots, he has very little utility. At his old weight, he probably couldn't bodied up the smaller Rockets lineup. I don't really have a lot of criticism for Pop's rotation. Wesley took some minutes from Castle, but you have to give Blake chances to see if the pre-season performance can carry over.
I'm wondering if Minix can come in for the backup PF spot. Pop's been bringing in Branham, Castle and Johnson as the SG, SF and PF. I wonder if he just cut out one of Wesley/Branham, put Castle at PG and ran with Castle, Wesley/Branham, Johnson, Minix, Collins if that might be a more functional unit long term.
Another idea would be to more heavily stagger Paul and Wemby so that they spend a lot of their minutes apart. I think Paul with the bench will really help solidify the talent there, and Wemby and Paul aren't really jiving right now. If the Spurs are going to play Victor out of structure, they don't need Paul there trying to run offense. The problem was never that guys didn't know how to pass the ball to Wemby. Castle, Wesley and Branham can bring the ball up the court and stand in a corner well enough, especially once Vassell comes back and takes most of the perimeter scoring in the first unit.
rankingtear
10-28-2024, 10:28 PM
This team would look much different once Devin comes back their bread and butter was that Wemby-Devin two man game. Sochan looks like he took a significant leap this year in terms of confidence and athleticism.
We missed some very makeable 3's. I'm actually proud of the boys ... in the 2nd half. They didn't give up but digging yourself out of a 17 point whole with our shooting is nigh impossible.
First half was a shitshow.
Easy to forget our 2nd best player is out. I'm still withholding too much judgment til Vassell has a few games back under his belt.
SayTown
10-28-2024, 10:37 PM
This team — Sochan, Keldon, even Wemby at times — is still too damned goofy at inopportune times.
Like, just grab a fucking rebound instead of dinking it off 6 teammate hands and then letting the other team grab it. Stop leaving known 3-point shooters to double-team nobodies. And in turn, nobody bricks open 3s like the modern Spurs. It's the same kind of dumb shit from the last 5-6 years.
Start working on Castle's jumpshot now. And don't fucking leave up to him to work on it during the summer. Program that shit. 1000 3s every day this coming offseason. Nobody wants to be saying "if only he had a jumper" in 3 years.
His offensive game is actually pretty limited, and any stout player, like Dillon Brooks, will keep him out of the paint. At present, his advantage is that most any sort of jumper is always technically kind of open because he is so tall. I guess he needs to just shoot more Js.
I'm kind of starting to wish he was more 6'11-7' with a strong body.
Regardless, in the offseason he needs to work on a go-to post move.
Ahh you're wishing he was Banchero got it
tim_duncan_fan
10-28-2024, 10:38 PM
Ahh you're wishing he was Banchero got it
Banchero isn't THAT tall is he? Damn.
Arcadian
10-28-2024, 10:42 PM
Only Wemby could have a 20 board, 5 assist, 4 block game and have it be considered a bad game :lol
Atl Spur
10-28-2024, 10:58 PM
Vic has to stop making the game so hard; 40 ft threes are not the answer in a close game or frankly ever! Punish them in the mid post in.
Strategic
10-28-2024, 10:58 PM
Spurs got in position late to win the game and nobody able to step up. Sure wish Pop would have thrown Castle in the fire. Castle shows difference maker abilities. Guess Pop lost my phone number.
SayTown
10-28-2024, 10:58 PM
Banchero isn't THAT tall is he? Damn.
Yep without shoes he's at least 6'10
Atl Spur
10-28-2024, 11:00 PM
Spurs got in position late to win the game and nobody able to step up. Sure wish Pop would have thrown Castle in the fire. Castle shows difference maker abilities. Guess Pop lost my phone number.
Hell naw! Lol
spurraider21
10-28-2024, 11:00 PM
Wemby plays so immaturely that it’s frustrating. Yeah he’s 20 but he’s also played pro for a while.
And man, keldon…
Thomas82
10-28-2024, 11:00 PM
I noticed that Wemby only took 14 shots tonight. How did he get limited to that few? I was at work and didn't get to see the game?
Atl Spur
10-28-2024, 11:03 PM
Pop will need more castle in okc
weeks
10-28-2024, 11:04 PM
I noticed that Wemby only took 14 shots tonight. How did he get limited to that few? I was at work and didn't get to see the game?
he was double and tripled but moreso it just felt like he wasn't getting into good position. he was beyond the arc a lot more than i like to see
GAustex
10-28-2024, 11:05 PM
Once pop is gone things will start to get better
Thomas82
10-28-2024, 11:07 PM
he was double and tripled but moreso it just felt like he wasn't getting into good position. he was beyond the arc a lot more than i like to see
I just read where another poster said he was passive for the first 3 quarters.
I noticed that Wemby only took 14 shots tonight. How did he get limited to that few? I was at work and didn't get to see the game?
Wemby was gassed for most of the game. The Houston announcers kept pointing it out.
He was bullied into bad position all night by small guards. He woke up way too late to play hard. He'd call for ball in those bad positions and set himself up to bail or hoist bad shots.
He needs to learn to win position before calling for the ball more. His fundamentals with establishing himself are really raw.
Chinook
10-28-2024, 11:25 PM
He needs to learn to win position before calling for the ball more. His fundamentals with establishing himself are really raw.
I don't disagree about fundamentals at all. But the issue is he seems to think the point of the offense is to get him the ball. It's not that he needs to win position before calling for the pass. It's that he shouldn't try to win position until the offense is ready to get him the ball. At best, it's wasted effort. At worst, it bogs down the offense because he won't set screen or get out of the way.
It should be wait for the right moment, make the seal, create a target for the pass, catch the ball and shoot/pass. That's it. No calling for the ball. No trying it back guys down. No trying to drive. Wait for the offense to move the defense, get the ball and shoot. Should be easy, but it's not what Durant or Lebron does
I don't disagree about fundamentals at all. But the issue is he seems to think the point of the offense is to get him the ball. It's not that he needs to win position before calling for the pass. It's that he shouldn't try to win position until the offense is ready to get him the ball. At best, it's wasted effort. At worst, it bogs down the offense because he won't set screen or get out of the way.
It should be wait for the right moment, make the seal, create a target for the pass, catch the ball and shoot/pass. That's it. No calling for the ball. No trying it back guys down. No trying to drive. Wait for the offense to move the defense, get the ball and shoot. Should be easy, but it's not what Durant or Lebron does
Yea I notice this a lot. He does not have a good feel for when to go, when to clear, when to press, etc. He goes for oops before his main ball handler even has a path to pass. My biggest gripe with it is how much energy he wastes. He's been consistently gassed every game and turns into flop city on defense when he doesn't get his legs set.
Definitely has some maturing to do on his feel for the offensive side. Needs to cut back on all the freestyling crap and not playing within the system. He's too good now for opponents not to gameplay for him. His next step is definitely learning how to take advantage of the right opportunities in response.
Hopefully getting Vassell back will calm him down some going forward.
tim_duncan_fan
10-29-2024, 12:20 AM
Yea I notice this a lot. He does not have a good feel for when to go, when to clear, when to press, etc. He goes for oops before his main ball handler even has a path to pass. My biggest gripe with it is how much energy he wastes. He's been consistently gassed every game and turns into flop city on defense when he doesn't get his legs set.
Definitely has some maturing to do on his feel for the offensive side. Needs to cut back on all the freestyling crap and not playing within the system. He's too good now for opponents not to gameplay for him. His next step is definitely learning how to take advantage of the right opportunities in response.
Hopefully getting Vassell back will calm him down some going forward.
He's gotta let go of the KDurant dream. He's so long that I find it hard to believe he will ever be smooth like that or be able to run around other players even if his ballhandling evolves significantly. It's worrying because he doesn't seem that jazzed about not being a guard.
Of course, none of this matters if he becomes a deadeye shooter, cause no one is blocking or bothering that shit otherwise.
Ice009
10-29-2024, 02:20 AM
We missed some very makeable 3's. I'm actually proud of the boys ... in the 2nd half. They didn't give up but digging yourself out of a 17 point whole with our shooting is nigh impossible.
First half was a shitshow.
The problem is, this team is full of poor shooters. I like that they're playing hard, but if they can't shoot, won't likely win many of these games. Jeremy Sochan has been the Spurs' most consistent player on offense this season, but a lot of it is coming through sheer effort plays.
John B
10-29-2024, 03:00 AM
They desperately need another scorer in Devin. I’m just hoping he gets back soon
John B
10-29-2024, 03:21 AM
Champ can shoot and play defense, but he cannot make a shot for himself and others.
Fireball
10-29-2024, 03:47 AM
yeah this team does not have enough shooting ... Wemby is showing solid passing skills but guys like Keldon are below average in converting the threes.
Castle was horrible in the first half, but he got better. But he also can't shoot ... really need Vassell back!
Raven
10-29-2024, 03:51 AM
i think it is safe to say keldon lost this game for the spurs tbh
Ice009
10-29-2024, 05:03 AM
i think it is safe to say keldon lost this game for the spurs tbh
Yeah, I agree, but, I also don't think he should have been out there at the end in the first place. If he can't hit a shot, he doesn't bring much else. I know Castle's shooting doesn't look good right now, but at least he brings a lot of other stuff, so I would have had him out there instead of Keldon at the end of the game.
Pauleta14
10-29-2024, 06:54 AM
I noticed that Wemby only took 14 shots tonight. How did he get limited to that few? I was at work and didn't get to see the game?
He had only 6 entering the 4th. It just can't happen
spurraider21
10-29-2024, 11:35 AM
Champ can shoot and play defense, but he cannot make a shot for himself and others.
and thats fine tbh. guys who can shoot, play defend, and create shots for themselves and others are usually called all-stars :lol
when devin returns, if we stagger the minutes such that at least one of vassell/champagnie are on the floor at all times, should help with spacing
tmtcsc
10-29-2024, 04:22 PM
Those no longer exist. They have been renamed to FanDuel Sports Network.
This site will tell you where every game is broadcast:
https://www.nba.com/spurs/spurs-broadcast
Thank you
tmtcsc
10-29-2024, 04:25 PM
He had only 6 entering the 4th. It just can't happen
i get it & mostly agree but he needs to take better shots too. He launched some juvenile crap up there.
Thomas82
10-29-2024, 09:32 PM
He had only 6 entering the 4th. It just can't happen
Cosign!!
He's gotta let go of the KDurant dream. He's so long that I find it hard to believe he will ever be smooth like that or be able to run around other players even if his ballhandling evolves significantly. It's worrying because he doesn't seem that jazzed about not being a guard.
Of course, none of this matters if he becomes a deadeye shooter, cause no one is blocking or bothering that shit otherwise.
Wemby has always seemed to be a streaky shooter. Good season/bad season shooting type. Kind of like Danny Green used to be hot and cold.
I think it'd be easier for him to give up that Durant dream if he had perimeter players next to him. His teammates are just so bad at making teams respect the 3 pt line and constantly clog the paint for help defense. His own teammates push him out as much as the other team. Definitely not a fan of the makeup of the squad currently. You need shooters in the NBA. Wemby desperately needs shooters.
Which is why I was absolutely fine with Hero Ball Trae coming in. Even if he shot average, he would alleviate so much space and attention for Wemby. Wemby needs that and a stretch 4. Love Sochan, but not his fit when he takes wembys spot downlow.
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