Pop suffers health issue

[GAustex]

By this standard you should probably suicide. Not a chance in hell you’re doing well in life. Miserable whiny people are always perpetual losers.
I am winning
I was right
The majority of the country agrees with me
In a landslide
You lost
Loser
You know you are wrong
I know you are wrong
Now you know I know you are a loser
Loser

[Frenchfred]

Yes, teachers are pushing their wokism as u put it. I believe it was one of the God's Not Dead movies that depicted this then in the end credits showed page after page of the legal cases. You're blind if u don't see the same scare tactics on left about racism n your whole family's being deported etc.
Faith on campus is silenced that's why u don't see it. Anyone who speaks out is immediately silenced

To be honest, I'm glad that people keep their religion to themselves at universities. They are places to learn real stuff, not fantasy. If you want to believe in a bearded man living in the sky, good for you, but what's the point of bringing Jesus, Allah , Buddha... in a place where you learn about science, economics, literature, history...? If Christians followed the bible and stop being hypocrites, we could maybe listen to them but they just pick and choose what they want in the bible while discarding the essential (helping the poor, not trying to get rich...). If you are a Christian and voted for trump, you obviously have no clue about the bible. The good thing is that if there is a god, the vast majority of those people will go to hell.

[Pauleta14]

secularism should be a universal rule

[BacktoBasics]

I am winning
I was right
The majority of the country agrees with me
In a landslide
You lost
Loser
You know you are wrong
I know you are wrong
Now you know I know you are a loser
Loser

What a dumb fucking narcissist. I’m no Harris or lib fan. I know shit stains like you when I see them. You fucking people think anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a lib. This is about you being a shitty fan. Not your identity that’s defined by politics. Haha you’re happiness is predicated by a wealthy guy winning an election that has no fucks to give about your poor ass. How pathetic.

Does that even cross your mind when you struggle to pay bills.

Don’t lie, you’re not exactly making a killer income. Post your paycheck peasant. I know misery when I see it. It bleeds into everything. Like it has here.

[Pauleta14]

You fucking people think anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a lib.

It works both ways tbh

I got called a nazi or Trump sympathiser (I'm from one of the most progessist city in the world lol) by some (very active) posters here bc I dared criticizing Biden's administration and his warmongers

Both sides are nuts, they choose a team and if u dare disagreing you're the worst possible human being smh :lol

[BacktoBasics]

It works both ways tbh

I got called a nazi or Trump sympathiser (I'm from one of the most progessist city in the world lol) by some (very active) posters here bc I dared criticizing Biden's administration and his warmongers

Both sides are nuts, they choose a team and if u dare disagreing you're the worst possible human being smh :lol

Some of you are just shitty people and nothing more. You can be an intelligent person and make a sound argument worthy of furthering a discussion. Then there’s people like ducks and whatever that other retards name is. Who can’t get passed the stink on their own upper lip.

[GAustex]

What a dumb fucking narcissist. I’m no Harris or lib fan. I know shit stains like you when I see them. You fucking people think anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a lib. This is about you being a shitty fan. Not your identity that’s defined by politics. Haha you’re happiness is predicated by a wealthy guy winning an election that has no fucks to give about your poor ass. How pathetic.

Does that even cross your mind when you struggle to pay bills.

Don’t lie, you’re not exactly making a killer income. Post your paycheck peasant. I know misery when I see it. It bleeds into everything. Like it has here.
Two cars paid off
House paid off in North Austin worth close to 1M
Six figures for the last 33 years
No debt
My IRA is flying
Company stock
Shit I can’t spend it all

And I got all that cause I am smart like a fox and I worked my ass off.

I like the OMB cause he is going to fuck you and poop and those who think like you so hard (so hard you will eventually say you love OMB) and give the government back to the people for the people.

You lost. The whole country found you guilty of being wrong about damn near everything.
Loser.

[TimmyBuckets]

This thread deteriorated pretty quick lmfaoo. Man I hope Pop is ok.

[Chomag]

Just exposes once again how inept our local news is at actually working to get a scoop on anything.I mean..It's kind of their job but whatever.

I do hope Pop is doing well though it would be nice to get some kind of update if even just a thumbs up Pic from Pop. I understand him wanting some privacy but there is a ton of people that are concerned for him.

[Brazil]

This coming from commie bastard from a shit hole country
Charges were trumped up and he will be exonerated upon appeal
Ducks has every right to say what he wants
Poop and trump are forever related stfw
You cannot shame me it’s impossible
lol you do not want to go there about my education
So I am not taking you or anyone else’s crap anymore- this election just proved that the majority in this country agree with not you so fuck off
I won’t start it but I will gladly throw crap back at you if you go there

:lmao tbh…

[spursgu]

All I want is an update on Pop but I just see a lot of bullshit in this thread. Close it down, mods.

[Pauleta14]

Some of you are just shitty people and nothing more. You can be an intelligent person and make a sound argument worthy of furthering a discussion. Then there’s people like ducks and whatever that other retards name is. Who can’t get passed the stink on their own upper lip.

Who are you talking about? Me?

Do you know me?

Don't act like you're a better person if you keep insulting ppl you don't even know

You don't seem better than the ppl you complain about

The irony :lol

[John B]

All I want is an update on Pop but I just see a lot of bullshit in this thread. Close it down, mods.

And where’s timvp? I haven’t seen grades the last two games.

[LeBowen]

And where’s timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8)? I haven’t seen grades the last two games.

Maybe timvp is actually Pop!

[John B]

Maybe timvp is actually Pop!

Or his caretaker?

[BacktoBasics]

Two cars paid off
House paid off in North Austin worth close to 1M
Six figures for the last 33 years
No debt
My IRA is flying
Company stock
Shit I can’t spend it all

And I got all that cause I am smart like a fox and I worked my ass off.

I like the OMB cause he is going to fuck you and poop and those who think like you so hard (so hard you will eventually say you love OMB) and give the government back to the people for the people.

You lost. The whole country found you guilty of being wrong about damn near everything.
Loser.

You have none of that and you’re a liar. If your employer saw your posts you’d be unemployed.

Prove it. Post your DL with a screenshot here and your paycheck.

[GAustex]

You have none of that and you’re a liar. If your employer saw your posts you’d be unemployed.

Prove it. Post your DL with a screenshot here and your paycheck.

Lick my taint

[BacktoBasics]

Lick my taint

That’s what I thought. When it comes to proving it you got nothing but insults.

At best you might make 40k as some middle manager and honestly I doubt you’re truly above a moderate hourly rate.

[GAustex]

That’s what I thought. When it comes to proving it you got nothing but insults.

At best you might make 40k as some middle manager and honestly I doubt you’re truly above a moderate hourly rate.
You lost
You are a loser
Loser
Poop lost too

[BacktoBasics]

You lost
You are a loser
Loser
Poop lost too

Broke ass bitch

[couchman]

Jesus please stop y'all
Show some respect for Pop and cut it out

[GAustex]

Broke ass bitch

You lost
You are a loser
Loser
Poop lost too

[exstatic]

Jesus please stop y'all
Show some respect for Pop and cut it out

That only appeals to one side of the argument. The other has zero respect for Pop. Zero.

[koriwhat]

By this standard you should probably suicide. Not a chance in hell you’re doing well in life. Miserable whiny people are always perpetual losers.

So tolerant and inclusive... :lmao


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[koriwhat]

Hate to say it, but at Pop's age I'd expect the chances of a stroke are higher than a heart attack. Both are horrible and I hope he's just sick with some flu of sorts but he most likely is incapacitated with something much worse at this point.

My Grandfather had a major stroke, got to the hospital in time to reverse it with some meds, and 6 months later he was deceased. He was never the same but those meds did have some thinking he'd be back to 100% because he wasn't paralyzed on his left side nor was he brain dead. He believed he was in his 50's again, couldn't make out how to work on a car again even after being a master mechanic his whole life, and much more... It's a sad thing to witness regardless of the outcome with or without meds.

Here's hoping for the best for Pop because I'd hate to see him go through the rest of his life like my Grandfather did after his major stroke.

[ismael-robert]

Citing some retarded D-list movie as a source for anything :lol

It has multiple sequels but anyway it's not like I'm quoting the script I'm quoting the list of legal cases, many from the ACLJ, that are recorded facts if u can read context. (By the way one of the movies depicted a legal defense for the existence of Jesus)
To Fred, when u vote u don't vote for the person but their policies so if u think I'm going to support murder of babies and the perversion of marriage and traditional family then sorry you have an obscured view of evil if money is more important.
The problem is that while faith is silenced liberalism and progressivism is rampant and encouraged so u can't be biased if one is free the other needs to be as well. And where do you think science and all knowledge originates from, its Creator.

[Leetonidas]

Yeah that doesn't actually happen at college. Only people who have never been to university would believe shit like Gods Not dead happens in real life :lol no offense bud

[koriwhat]

The problem is that while faith is silenced liberalism and progressivism is rampant and encouraged so u can't be biased if one is free the other needs to be as well.

Def true and it's gotten worse since I was last in college 20 yrs ago.

[ChumpDumper]

It has multiple sequels but anyway it's not like I'm quoting the script I'm quoting the list of legal cases, many from the ACLJ, that are recorded facts if u can read context. (By the way one of the movies depicted a legal defense for the existence of Jesus)
To Fred, when u vote u don't vote for the person but their policies so if u think I'm going to support murder of babies and the perversion of marriage and traditional family then sorry you have an obscured view of evil if money is more important.
The problem is that while faith is silenced liberalism and progressivism is rampant and encouraged so u can't be biased if one is free the other needs to be as well. And where do you think science and all knowledge originates from, its Creator.:lol faith is SOOOOO silenced

[baseline bum]

I don’t think criticizing the characters of Trump, Ted Cruz or Abbott as Liberal. I believe Pop likes the human nature and how he conducts himself. He had high praises for H.W. Bush when he recalled the former president visiting San Antonio in 1992 and spending day with the Spurs, as a classy President. Pop is not scared to speak his mind, and has no patience for “stupid questions.” The Spurs owe a lot to Timmy as the greatest Spur, but I doubt the Spurs would be even close to successful without the watchful eyes of Coach Pop who sheltered his players and not allowed drama to tear the team apart, much like his view of policies and politicians. I don’t call that Liberal.

HW Bush was smart enough to stay out of the headlines when the Berlin Wall fell and only negotiate in private as Gorbachev was walking a knife edge trying to maintain power in the Communist party against a bunch of war hawks who wanted to oust him and lock Berlin back down by deadly force just like the Soviets had been doing for the last 28 years there. If Reagan was president then he'd be doing victory laps and egging the hardliners in the Soviet Union on and maybe Gorbachev falls and we get World War III. Maybe you're too young but if you were alive at the time the idea of the Berlin Wall falling without a shot was unthinkable. In the time of the cold war Americans just expected the US and Soviet Union would eventually be in full blown nuclear war with the Soviets, with East Germany and probably Berlin as the flashpoint.

[John B]

HW Bush was smart enough to stay out of the headlines when the Berlin Wall fell and only negotiate in private as Gorbachev was walking a knife edge trying to maintain power in the Communist party against a bunch of war hawks who wanted to oust him and lock Berlin back down by deadly force just like the Soviets had been doing for the last 28 years there. If Reagan was president then he'd be doing victory laps and egging the hardliners in the Soviet Union on and maybe Gorbachev falls and we get World War III. Maybe you're too young but if you were alive at the time the idea of the Berlin Wall falling without a shot was unthinkable. In the time of the cold war Americans just expected the US and Soviet Union would eventually be in full blown nuclear war with the Soviets, with East Germany and probably Berlin as the flashpoint.

Sounds like something Pop would agree on, under the radar covertly with no unwarranted attention. It’s how Pop handles Spurs keeping everything in-house. That’s why DRob and Timmy were perfect soldiers without question, Manu and TP falling in line. That’s what I didn’t like about Instagram Baller and specially nephew airing dirty laundry. Anyways, I hope the old man’s okay. I’m sure he doesn’t want anyone to fuzz.

[Ice009]

Stop arguing and hurling insults guys. This isn't the thread for it.

[tbdog]

Out of 10, how concerned are you for Pop's health?

[Pauleta14]

Out of 10, how concerned are you for Pop's health?

10

[Ice009]

Until we hear some actual update on it, about an 8 as a few people have said he's getting better.

[slick'81]

7 im sure hes going to be ok. He needs to step down after the season

[ginobilized]

I'm at an 8

Heart attack, stroke or cancer seem the most likely possibilities and each could have long-lasting and/or life-threatening consequences.

Stephen Jackson's comment that Pop is not a great coach, but, a great leader puts things in perspective. Probably time for Pop to go.

[Robz4000]

It was a mild stroke

[spurraider21]

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[LeBowen]

It was a mild stroke

Damn, then my prediction was on point.
He's probably already fully recovered mentally, but I'm not sure that his motor function will ever be fully back.
He's got the best possible care, hopefully he can come back to get a proper send-off, but I wouldn't expect him to coach full-time again.

[Mugen]

Get well soon, hope he does make a full recovery. But I really hope he takes this as a sign to make sure he's prioritizing his long term health above everything else tbh.

[Robz4000]

Definitely time to retire at this point tbh.

[scott]

Glad to hear it was mild and a full recovery is expected!

[Floyd Pacquiao]

All those fucken turnovers triggered it probably, tbh.

[KingKev]

I blame Wemby’s terrible shot selection tbh. Just kidding. Pop is a fighter who keeps himself in absolute pristine shape but this was inevitable.

I’m sure hard conversations are going on behind closed doors but I’d love to see a clear transition path where Pop still had some input and power during his final years.

[RC_Drunkford]

Man I hope he gets back to his regular self. Probably should stop stressing himself out by coaching

[Canyonero]

Oh my

[rjv]

Most of us figured it was either cardio or neuro so this isn't a big shocker. what we don't know is if there was any sort of damage at all and whether or not he has to undergo any kind of rehab. the spurs will be very hush-hush and we'll just have to wait it out. i'll just give myself a 50/50 outlook on whether or not Pop returns this season and/or beyond that.

[baseline bum]

Well shit, good news he got medical attention ASAP at least for the stroke. Can't imagine he'll be back coaching though.

[ginobilized]

Heal up, Pop!

This really shakes up the organization. Not only without a coach, but without a President of Basketball Operations and overall leader. My guess is that they would be prepared for this better than most.

Mitch Johnson is probably interim coach for the rest of the season and they do a hire after the season. I wonder if Pop can continue as de facto President of B-ball? Who's next in line there?

I'm glad Pop has accomplished his amazing feats in the bball world before this happened. 5 rings, The coaching tree of all-time, all the wins, Gold Medal and improving so many lives along the way.

[ginobilized]

Dave Telep is Vice President of Basketball operations and has been on the staff since 2013 as a scout. He's next man up, probably, if Pop is not able to hold this spot.

[stnick2261]

I wonder if Pop lives alone. If so, he's lucky the stroke happened at the Frost Bank Center where people could help him right away.

[Atl Spur]

God bless pop & fam!

[Maddog]

Get well Pop.

Still a lot of details unknown-encouraging that he is home, but then again he has resources that would allow him to be at home when others require hospitalization.
Strokes are a lot like real estate- Location, size and why it's for sale (or happened).

There are definitely scenarios where he could be back this year. My gut impression is he will not though it's based on zero data.

[spurraider21]

glad hes ok but he actually pulled a RBG and prevented us from landing Bud

[John B]

Good news if just mild stroke. I pray for his full recovery. But I doubt at 78 he’ll try to come back. I’m sure he’d rather spend with his kids and grandkids.

I’m sure there’s already much discussions behind closed doors. The Pop/RC tandem was one for the ages. Mitch/Wright? I agree Mitch gets the interim coach the rest of the year. Imo I think Mitch likes Castle starting. Immediately he got the kid to start in Sochan’s place, where Pop would probably put a 3rd stringer (Mamu) so not to disrupt the 2nd unit. And lately Pop has been very “nice” to vets allowing them time to relocate to other team of their choice, etc. It’s something to watch out towards the end of the season with regards to CP3 and Barnes, etc. It’s going to be interesting how they will continue the “Spurs Culture.”

[slick'81]

Like i said before, retire and find that successor

[Pauleta14]

Heal up, Pop!

This really shakes up the organization. Not only without a coach, but without a President of Basketball Operations and overall leader. My guess is that they would be prepared for this better than most.

Mitch Johnson is probably interim coach for the rest of the season and they do a hire after the season. I wonder if Pop can continue as de facto President of B-ball? Who's next in line there?

I'm glad Pop has accomplished his amazing feats in the bball world before this happened. 5 rings, The coaching tree of all-time, all the wins, Gold Medal and improving so many lives along the way.

Forgot who said it, but if we want Becky we can't wait the end of the season bc of the WNBA season, it's now (soon) or never.

Imagine how exciting it would be

[bigfan]

You Pop haters are finally going to get your wish because I seriously doubt he ever comes back to coach here again; he wouldnt put the team thru that sideshow. Best coach in NBA history and I wish him a speedy recovery. As for next up, the dude doing it now seems ok to me since we lost out on Coach Bud.

[Bruno]

The common knowledge with stroke is that one you got one, you are at high risk to develop a new one. It's certainly not up to me to say what he should do, but it certainly would be a lot safer for him to retire.

If he retires, for his succession as a coach, Spurs should let Mitch Johnson do the interim until the end of the season. After that, they should keep him if he has been good or take someone outside of the org.

[mikec]

Hope he has a speedy recovery. But this is a clear sign a change in leadership is now due.

[baseline bum]

Actually the American university's agenda is to brain wash our youth and push their agenda. You're persecuted for being conservative and silenced if you speak about faith. With this huge monolith working against our youth it's amazing the right can win anything. Then the media is all left...I mean sheesh it is truly amazing.

LOL Clear Channel, Fox News, and Sinclair are all left. MSNBC is so left Chris Matthews was on there flipping out saying that a President Sanders would have him executed when Bernie was leading in the 2020 primaries early on. What's this persecution you speak of in universities? That they don't teach creationism? Durr Jesus did it, yeah that'll impress the interviewers and get you a good job after graduation.

[rjv]

LOL Clear Channel, Fox News, and Sinclair are all left. MSNBC is so left Chris Matthews was on there flipping out saying that a President Sanders would have him executed when Bernie was leading in the 2020 primaries early on. What's this persecution you speak of in universities? That they don't teach creationism? Durr Jesus did it, yeah that'll impress the interviewers and get you a good job after graduation.

the dude is full of shit. don't waste your time.

[Russo21]

Trump for the win 🏆 He really got to old man Pops. Hope he's gone forever and we never hear from him again 👍🏻

[baseline bum]

Trump for the win �� He really got to old man Pops. Hope he's gone forever and we never hear from him again ����

Why are you even a Spurs fan if you wish death on the guy that has been the architect of the franchise since the mid 90s?

[Larry O]

Praying for Pop! It's going to be interesting to see how the team will react to the news, and going forward, will this matter be an inspiration to the team, or will it depress their momentum? Hopefully, they will have a "Win it For Pop" attitude to inspire them to at least win as many games as possible. Again, pray for Pop, and GSG!!!

[exstatic]

Trump for the win �� He really got to old man Pops. Hope he's gone forever and we never hear from him again ����

Blocked.

[benefactor]

Trump for the win �� He really got to old man Pops. Hope he's gone forever and we never hear from him again ����
I hope you get dick cancer and we never hear from you again.

[Spurs Homer]

I have a vision of pop and victor celebrating another spurs title…pop is there next to vic but not sure in what capacity but there nonetheless…

[Frenchfred]

It has multiple sequels but anyway it's not like I'm quoting the script I'm quoting the list of legal cases, many from the ACLJ, that are recorded facts if u can read context. (By the way one of the movies depicted a legal defense for the existence of Jesus)
To Fred, when u vote u don't vote for the person but their policies so if u think I'm going to support murder of babies and the perversion of marriage and traditional family then sorry you have an obscured view of evil if money is more important.
The problem is that while faith is silenced liberalism and progressivism is rampant and encouraged so u can't be biased if one is free the other needs to be as well. And where do you think science and all knowledge originates from, its Creator.

What are the seven deadly sins?
1. Lust
2. Gluttony
3. Greed
4. Sloth
5. Wrath
6. Envy
7. Pride

Now look at trump and tell how many of those is he fulfilling? So, that's your "christian" candidate, what a f.ing joke.

If there is a God, Pop will probably go to Heaven while your guru will be first on the list for Hell.

[koriwhat]

Damn I was right about Pop having a stroke and I wish I wasn't... I hope he fully recovers if that's even possible; I have yet to see it in those I have known who endured even a mild stroke.

Get well Pop, stick around the team in some capacity, but hang it up as a head coach already and take some time for yourself, your health, and your family.

[koriwhat]

What are the seven deadly sins?
1. Lust
2. Gluttony
3. Greed
4. Sloth
5. Wrath
6. Envy
7. Pride

Now look at trump and tell how many of those is he fulfilling?

Now do the same with HRC, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, AOC, and the like... You know the lizards and commies are God-less so... :lmao

[OldMan88]

Good to hear Pop is recovering, but the initial announcement suggested this (stroke) had happened before. I suspect we’ll not see Pop coaching from the bench anymore.

[LeBowen]

I hope everyone who keeps ruining topic about Pop's health with political nonsense suffers from permanent internet outage.

[John B]

Trump for the win  He really got to old man Pops. Hope he's gone forever and we never hear from him again 

How are you even a Spurs fan? Coach Pop has as much credit for bringing championship to the Spurs and to the city of San Antonio. So much respect to our old coach Pop.

[Budkin]

All the vibes for Pop!

[PhantomDashCam]

Damn, brings what’s most important in life to the forefront…

Was hoping that Pop would be able to guide this team to an unlikely playoff berth, turning a current rebuild into a budding contender before ultimately stepping down. This appears unlikely now.

Grateful for watching one of the league’s best ever do it, even through these uneven years.

Not writing this as a farewell, just a humble appreciation for how big a role the Spurs, Pop and co. have had on my life through the sport I love.

Wishing you all the best Spurs fam.

[CorrectCrusader]

Just keep Mitch Johnson

[Fireball]

All the best to Coach Pop! Come back fully healthy

[DAF86]

Trump for the win 🏆 He really got to old man Pops. Hope he's gone forever and we never hear from him again 👍🏻

Dude, you have to be a very special kind of piece of shit to wish death upon someone just because of different points of view on politics, tbh.

[Cry Havoc]

Dude, you have to be a very special kind of piece of shit to wish death upon someone just because of different points of view on politics, tbh.

People break their relationships with their children over this stuff. They love a hateful shitbag more than they love their own kids. Tells you all you need to know about where their hearts are.

[Joseph Kony]

Trump for the win  He really got to old man Pops. Hope he's gone forever and we never hear from him again 
come on man, what kind of asshat do you have to be to say shit like this because Pop doesn't like your dear leader? asswipe

[Pauleta14]

Trump for the win 🏆 He really got to old man Pops. Hope he's gone forever and we never hear from him again 👍🏻

WTF is wrong with u?? How political opinion has anything to do with the content of a man's character??

Is your life THAT fucked up? Be better man

[Pauleta14]

Just keep Mitch Johnson

Interim fine, but a billion dollars business giving the keys to a rookie is just madness

[BackHome]

Hope it is not to serious and he recovers but yeah I don’t see him coming back as far as coaching.

[DAF86]

Interim fine, but a billion dollars business giving the keys to a rookie is just madness

If he proves to do a good job this season, I don't see why move away from him. At the end of the day, Wemby will probably decide.

[Obstructed_View]

My MiL had a stroke the same day. She's back home from rehab and required to use a walker for a couple of weeks. Hopefully his was as mild as hers and we will see him soon.

[LeBowen]

Interim fine, but a billion dollars business giving the keys to a rookie is just madness

Look who just won the finals - a rookie coach.
Udoka was also a rookie when he got to the finals.
Warriors are Kerr's first job.
Spoelstra was also a rookie.
OKC, Timberwolves and Grizzlies have rookie coaches.
Most importantly, Pop was a rookie.

Obviously Mitch has to be evaluated properly, but if he does well there's no reason for him to keep going.
He's been with the team since 2016.
If there are no top level candidates, I'd rather have a young coach than any of those washed guys.

[baseline bum]

My MiL had a stroke the same day. She's back home from rehab and required to use a walker for a couple of weeks. Hopefully his was as mild as hers and we will see him soon.

Damn, glad to hear she's doing well.

[poopbox]

Glad to know Pop is on the road to recovery but hopefully he retires from coaching for his own health. The stress of being an NBA coach and front office person is definitely not something you want to be mixing with a stroke.

Winningest coach ever, one of if not the greatest coach in nba history. Nothing left to prove.

[Pauleta14]

If he proves to do a good job this season, I don't see why move away from him. At the end of the day, Wemby will probably decide.


Look who just won the finals - a rookie coach.
Udoka was also a rookie when he got to the finals.
Warriors are Kerr's first job.
Spoelstra was also a rookie.
OKC, Timberwolves and Grizzlies have rookie coaches.
Most importantly, Pop was a rookie.

Obviously Mitch has to be evaluated properly, but if he does well there's no reason for him to keep going.
He's been with the team since 2016.
If there are no top level candidates, I'd rather have a young coach than any of those washed guys.


Not saying it's impossible, just that it's an isane risk.

LeBowen some of those names have plenty of exp at the highest level as player, been there done that factor is massive especially when u talk to men in a lockerrom. Spoelstra had Riley next to him and it took him 3-4 years to start being elite.

PO basketball is also very diff than RS

It's my pov today with what Mitch showed me and the countless examples in different sports. Being an elite coach is such a complex package that goes beyond just the knowledge of the sport.

He's just too young to me and Spurs will pay the price of his development that goes with unavoidable mistakes he has to go through

[DAF86]

Not saying it's impossible, just that it's an isane risk.

LeBowen some of those names have plenty of exp at the highest level as player, been there done that factor is massive especially when u talk to men in a lockerrom. Spoelstra had Riley next to him and it took him 3-4 years to start being elite.

PO basketball is also very diff than RS

It's my pov today with what Mitch showed me and the countless examples in different sports. Being an elite coach is such a complex package that goes beyond just the knowledge of the sport.

He's just too young to me and Spurs will pay the price of his development that goes with unavoidable mistakes he has to go through

Unless you get an elite coach (which you won't, since they are all taken) it is better to go with a rookie coach with promise, than a known, mid, veteran one.

For example: any unknown would be better than a Mike Brown or Monty Williams.

[Pauleta14]

Unless you get an elite coach (which you won't, since they are all taken) it is better to go with a rookie coach with promise, than a known, mid, veteran one.

Why not a combo Becky-Mitch?

We can wait the end of the season and who knows what will be Bud or Ime's situations (my 2 prefered choices) be?

I'll gladly admit it if I'm wrong and Mitch ends up elite, I just don't see it tbh

[Pauleta14]

Obviously if the choice is Mitch or say ...Doc Rivers (:lol) I'm taking Mitch all day...

[LeBowen]

The thing is that it's easy to fire a rookie coach, but if you get a big name and he fails...then you got yourself a problem.
A young coach should be Pop's successor, then if we can't actually win playoff series in two years try to go for Kerr since he'll probably be done with the Warrios when Steph retires.

[weeks]

get well soon pop!

ban the fuckheads wishing him ill

[Mugen]

The thought that they might eventually bring in Monty as head coach keeps me up at night tbh.

[TDomination]

everytime i see this thread bumped i keep opening it in hopes of seeing a pop health news update but nothing

i wish this thread would not be used for political talk or for next head coach talk. we have threads for both of those topics.

[tbdog]

everytime i see this thread bumped i keep opening it in hopes of seeing a pop health news update but nothing

i wish this thread would not be used for political talk or for next head coach talk. we have threads for both of those topics.

It just got announced earlier that Pop had a mild stroke.

[baseline bum]

The thought that they might eventually bring in Monty as head coach keeps me up at night tbh.

Gee, thanks for putting that thought into my head

[baseline bum]

Wonder if having Wemby would be enough to get Dan Hurley down here after he told the Lakers to fuck off. Gotta think he'd love coaching Castle again too.

[dn0774]

Why not a combo Becky-Mitch?

We can wait the end of the season and who knows what will be Bud or Ime's situations (my 2 prefered choices) be?

I'll gladly admit it if I'm wrong and Mitch ends up elite, I just don't see it tbh

I'm curious what qualities you're basing your assessment of Mitch off of? Not being combative, genuinely wondering. He has only had like 5 games total I think, basically a newborn in coaching terms. Faced with the choice right now I would take Bud or Ime too, but not because of anything I have or havent seen from Mitch, he is still just a complete unknown. Not to mention that he is an interim coach running another coaches game plan.

With Regards to Pop, I do hope he is able to make it back to the sideline in some capacity (home games only or something) this season and finish things up on his terms (as a coach anyway, I hope he would still be a FO presence going forward if wants it). I met him a couple times briefly about 20 years ago and he was all class.

[baseline bum]

We can wait the end of the season and who knows what will be Bud or Ime's situations (my 2 prefered choices) be?

I'll gladly admit it if I'm wrong and Mitch ends up elite, I just don't see it tbh

I'd love either but Bud just signed a five year deal and Udoka is in a great situation in Houston, especially since they'll be a frontrunner to land Giannis when he asks out with the abundance of good young players plus the unprotected Suns firsts they own.

[TDomination]

It just got announced earlier that Pop had a mild stroke.
thank you my good man, i completely missed that.

man hate that it happened but glad that it happened prior to the game. I would have hated knowing that he had a stroke during the game with millions of cameras covering every angle of him.

[playbonner15]

Trump for the win  He really got to old man Pops. Hope he's gone forever and we never hear from him again 

Pop had a stroke even before the elections right? Trump winning certainly did not help with his health. Better for Pop to take a 4 year vacation for now then come back once Trump is out lol (if Trump hasnt declared himself Supreme Leader)

[Duncan2177]

Glad to know Pop is on the road to recovery but hopefully he retires from coaching for his own health. The stress of being an NBA coach and front office person is definitely not something you want to be mixing with a stroke.

Winningest coach ever, one of if not the greatest coach in nba history. Nothing left to prove.

Exactly.

[LeBowen]

I'm curious what qualities you're basing your assessment of Mitch off of? Not being combative, genuinely wondering. He has only had like 5 games total I think, basically a newborn in coaching terms. Faced with the choice right now I would take Bud or Ime too, but not because of anything I have or havent seen from Mitch, he is still just a complete unknown. Not to mention that he is an interim coach running another coaches game plan.

He's been with the team since 2016 and got all the way to lead assistant role.
Considering the track record of Pop's coaching tree, we have to assume that he's got potential.
If Pop didn't think he was good enough to be the lead assistant, Brett Brown would've taken the interim job.
Obviously being the head coach is way more difficult and it becomes way more about managing egos than just X and Os, but we can't know if he doesn't get a shot.
If we're talking available coaches, right now none of those names except Becky entice me.

As for coaching plans, if we're to get back to glory days, a franchise has to have an established style of play, one player acquisitions are based on and then you just get the coach that fits that style.
Even if we look for someone experienced, we won't get someone with let's say MDA's style who's going to Wright to trade for Trae and tell Wemby he's exclusively a lob catcher on offense.

Fwiw, players seem to like Mitch because he worked closely with most of them over the past years.
https://archive.ph/sKDut

It's obvious he'll be the coach for the rest of the season, we'll just have to wait and see how it goes.
I'd say let's wait for like 20 more or so games before we see any of his additions to the gameplan.

[Pauleta14]

I'm curious what qualities you're basing your assessment of Mitch off of? Not being combative, genuinely wondering. He has only had like 5 games total I think, basically a newborn in coaching terms. Faced with the choice right now I would take Bud or Ime too, but not because of anything I have or havent seen from Mitch, he is still just a complete unknown. Not to mention that he is an interim coach running another coaches game plan.

With Regards to Pop, I do hope he is able to make it back to the sideline in some capacity (home games only or something) this season and finish things up on his terms (as a coach anyway, I hope he would still be a FO presence going forward if wants it). I met him a couple times briefly about 20 years ago and he was all class.

He has zero experience at the highest level, neither as a coach or a player, it's a massive handicap, when things go wrong and players look at you for a solution, it's always better to have a "been there done that" or at least being able to be a "father figure".
The psychological aspect is huge as well, it comes with exp too, communication skills (internal and ext to the medias) etc

As smart as Mitch can be, he's a complete idiot version of the man he'll become with experiences and failures.

In the end, choosing a coach is always a bet, I'm marely playing the numbers here

As for Pop if I'm his daughter there's no way I'm letting him back on the side lines, even as an assistant :lol

[Teamduncan21]

He has zero experience at the highest level, neither as a coach or a player, it's a massive handicap, when things go wrong and players look at you for a solution, it's always better to have a "been there done that" or at least being able to be a "father figure".
The psychological aspect is huge as well, it comes with exp too, communication skills (internal and ext to the medias) etc

As smart as Mitch can be, he's a complete idiot version of the man he'll become with experiences and failures.

In the end, choosing a coach is always a bet, I'm marely playing the numbers here

As for Pop if I'm his daughter there's no way I'm letting him back on the side lines, even as an assistant :lol

But how can he get experience if nobody gives him? We should be tanking for Flagg anyway. So just use this year as a check

[Mugen]

1856839109349666986

[LeBowen]

1856839109349666986

Damn, we went from coach Pop is fine but needs a rest to thoughts and prayers.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Been talking about this mofo retiring since like 2016, but it was never really real to me. I don't see him coming back to coach after this though, so we are entering a new era. We are in scary times.Winds of change. The training wheels and floaties are all off.

Thank you, Pop. Get better!

[tim_duncan_fan]

Also, Mitch's timeline lines up.

We need 2 more years for Castle and Wemby to start really consistently being whatever they are going to be, and THEN the battling for deep playoff runs begins.


Mitch has time to become whatever he is going to become, if he is going to become anything.

[GAustex]

Popabitch had a stroke
Oh no
Anyway

[SpursBills]

Don't see what's wrong with seeing what the Spurs have with Mitch - young up and coming coaches can grow with young up and coming teams. I tentatively like what I've seen so far and there's no harm in letting young coaches grow with young teams especially if Spurs have a build through the draft mentality.

In fact, 3/4 top teams in the league started with rookie head coaches (Mazzulla, Daigneault, Kerr). Spurs are on a similar timeline to the Thunder from 2-3 years ago with regards to talent and roster construction, hopefully Mitch and reproduce their coach's success too

[Pauleta14]

But how can he get experience if nobody gives him? We should be tanking for Flagg anyway. So just use this year as a check

That's why there are diff leagues, diff levels...

Mitch would basically learn on the fly and 100% do avoidable mistakes a more exp coach wouldn't do bc he went through the dev process already

My initial point/post was that The Spurs are a multi billions dollars Cie and that it represents an insane risk considering the timing (generational player, new arena, ambitious owners etc), the same logic applies for any similar type of Cies not necessary in sports.

[The Truth #6]

If Mitch gets into the playoffs and the players like him, seems hard to not let him keep the job. Back in the lottery, then I doubt there is any argument to keep him as head coach, but would easily go back to 1st Assistant with a lot of experience. I don't see any big downside.

[BacktoBasics]

Popabitch had a stroke
Oh no
Anyway
You’re a fucking shitty person.

[DAF86]

He has zero experience at the highest level, neither as a coach or a player, it's a massive handicap, when things go wrong and players look at you for a solution, it's always better to have a "been there done that" or at least being able to be a "father figure".
The psychological aspect is huge as well, it comes with exp too, communication skills (internal and ext to the medias) etc

As smart as Mitch can be, he's a complete idiot version of the man he'll become with experiences and failures.

In the end, choosing a coach is always a bet, I'm marely playing the numbers here

As for Pop if I'm his daughter there's no way I'm letting him back on the side lines, even as an assistant :lol

Pop didn't have that "been there, done that" card, neither as a player nor as a coach, and he ended up the GOAT. Think of all the all-time and recent winning coaches: Pop, Phil Jackson, Riley, Spo, Kerr, Malone, Lue, Mazzulla. All coaches that won it with their first team in charge. Very rarely you see a journeyman coach that has been passed around go and suddenly become a winner with their 3rd or 4th team. Experience as a head coach in the NBA is highly overrated. In fact, I would argue is better to get rookie coaches.

[Obstructed_View]

Damn, glad to hear she's doing well.
Thanks. I passed it on to her. She appreciates it.

[Pauleta14]

Pop didn't have that "been there, done that" card, neither as a player nor as a coach, and he ended up the GOAT. Think of all the all-time and recent winning coaches: Pop, Phil Jackson, Riley, Spo, Kerr, Malone, Lue, Mazzulla. All coaches that won it with their first team in charge. Very rarely you see a journeyman coach that has been passed around go and suddenly become a winner with their 3rd or 4th team. Experience as a head coach in the NBA is highly overrated. In fact, I would argue is better to get rookie coaches.

Pop is a unique case

+ he's been mentrored by 2 of the greatest coaches of all time before (Brown and Nelson)

Pop is more than a coach, he's also "CIA Pop", the dude was a spy during the cold war ffs :lol

[DAF86]

Pop is a unique case

+ he's been mentrored by 2 of the greatest coaches of all time before (Brown and Nelson)

Pop is more than a coach, he's also "CIA Pop", the dude was a spy during the cold war ffs :lol

Phil Jackson is the same thing, Spoelstra too. It really is way more common than you think.

[timtonymanu]

Popabitch had a stroke
Oh no
Anyway

You bring nothing of value to this forum so time to stop posting.

[TheBallsbreakers]

So sad to hear. Hope Pop recovers soon and gets to spend more time with his family.

This place being a cesspool as always.

[Kuvai]

GOTTTTTavich…..

Prayers to the best mannnn

[slick'81]

Love ya pops

[ducks]

How in the world is coaching for pop stressfully
The owners have no guts to fire the has been !

[Pauleta14]

Phil Jackson is the same thing, Spoelstra too. It really is way more common than you think.

Phil Jackson was an NBA champ bro, went to coach in Puerto Rico

Spoelstra had Riley doing the dirty work and printing his culture behind

Mitch is much younger, didn't play at high level, he's too green to be in charge of such a project

[cutewizard]

Prayers for Pop

Coach Pop, get well soon........

[GAustex]

You’re a fucking shitty person.

Loser
Poop lost too

[GAustex]

You bring nothing of value to this forum so time to stop posting.
Not surprising you want to censor those who disagree with you
It’s a trait like Pop would employ

[timtonymanu]

Not surprising you want to censor those who disagree with you
It’s a trait like Pop would employ

I don’t care about censoring. I’m just telling you bring nothing of value to this forum.

In fact, you know how little I care about censorship, here’s this: shut up faggot!

Either way, Pop will go to his grave famous while losers like you do nothing to contribute to society.

[lefty]

Phil Jackson is the same thing, Spoelstra too. It really is way more common than you think.
I knew that Phil and Spo were CIA spies!!!

[timtonymanu]

Trump for the win 🏆 He really got to old man Pops. Hope he's gone forever and we never hear from him again 👍🏻

Good now we know to laugh at you if you ever died cause that’s what a POS like you deserves.

[GAustex]

I don’t care about censoring. I’m just telling you bring nothing of value to this forum.

In fact, you know how little I care about censorship, here’s this: shut up faggot!

Either way, Pop will go to his grave famous while losers like you do nothing to contribute to society.

You and poop are the losers by a landslide
Take the L loser
I will not shut up.
U and poop can kiss my fanny.

[timtonymanu]

You and poop are the losers by a landslide
Take the L loser
I will not shut up.
U and poop can kiss my fanny.

You take the L every day living your own life so again I tell you shut up faggot.

Trump winning the election affects me nothing lol. I know your pansy ass would have cried tears from your vagina if he lost though. The universe decided to give your pathetic life a break from taking Ls.

[GAustex]

You take the L every day living your own life so again I tell you shut up faggot.
Ain’t shutting up
Ever
You and poop just lost
Yugly
Trump is ur and poops daddy
Karma a bitch right about now

[timtonymanu]

Ain’t shutting up
Ever
You and poop just lost
Yugly
Trump is ur and poops daddy
Karma a bitch right about now

Thinking I care about the election results :lol

[GAustex]

Thinking I care about the election results :lol
Loser
Try to shut me up

[timtonymanu]

Loser
Try to shut me up

Thinking I care about the election results. :lol

I go to sleep fine every night. I’m sorry your life is so worthless though that you have to get your “Ws” on here.

[Dejounte]

You know you’ve been brainwashed so bad when politics has become your whole identity. It’s like these people can’t talk like normal human beings anymore without trump on their brain. Cultish mentality. That’s a full grown adult acting like a 10 year old. Sad.

[timtonymanu]

You know you’ve been brainwashed so bad when politics has become your whole identity. It’s like these people can’t talk like normal human beings anymore without trump on their brain. Cultish mentality. That’s a full grown adult acting like a 10 year old. Sad.

He really thinks I care about the election when I’m just calling out a loser person when I see one.

I’ve been outspoken about my issues with Pop’s coaching but you got to be some low level human to be mocking Pop having a health issue. That’s why I’m convinced GA has nothing going for him in life. He has to deal with Ls in his life on a daily basis.

[scott]

One thing to consider with Mitch is what a lot of organizations go through when replacing a founder or high-profile, well known leader. Often times their successors have the toughest job imaginable, because they’re always being compared against “how the last person did it.” Because of this, often times CEO postings in this situations are intended to be transitional and temporary, understanding how difficult this is.

Mitch provides a nice transition, even if for a few years, to a new (hopefully) long-term solution.

With that said, I’d still like to see us go after Becky. Her and Mitch worked together, Mitch can still be lead assistant.

I’m not too worried about Mitch being a rookie head coach if he’s the successor. Every HC needs to be a rookie at some point. Someone mentioned how Pop was mentioned by greats in Don Nelson and Larry Brown… well, Mitch has been mentored by someone greater than both of those guys… Pop.

[RC_Drunkford]

Pop is a unique case

+ he's been mentrored by 2 of the greatest coaches of all time before (Brown and Nelson)

Pop is more than a coach, he's also "CIA Pop", the dude was a spy during the cold war ffs :lol

Mitch Johnson is a unique case. He's been mentored by the greatest coach of all time, Gregg Popovich

[RC_Drunkford]

I like what I've seen from Mitch so far. We run set plays at the first posession of the game and 2nd half. That give and go dribble hand off with CP3 on the side of the court for example. Victor also gets set up much better. We're playing modern basketball. He's very engaged on the sidelines and benches players for defensive mistakes. It's refreshing to see and better than what Pop was doing recently to be honest.

If he keeps this up, I have no problem with him getting the HC gig. I been saying for years we need a coach who's hungry to win.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir13_SZzr_0

[BacktoBasics]

Loser
Try to shut me up

Come out from behind that screen. You people got a lot to say until you have to do it in person.

[Pauleta14]

Mitch Johnson is a unique case. He's been mentored by the greatest coach of all time, Gregg Popovich

Yeah we're all unique... :lol

130 pts, Pop must be proud

[Pauleta14]

I like what I've seen from Mitch so far. We run set plays at the first posession of the game and 2nd half. That give and go dribble hand off with CP3 on the side of the court for example. Victor also gets set up much better. We're playing modern basketball. He's very engaged on the sidelines and benches players for defensive mistakes. It's refreshing to see and better than what Pop was doing recently to be honest.

If he keeps this up, I have no problem with him getting the HC gig. I been saying for years we need a coach who's hungry to win.

I agree, but what makes u think he is AND since when is it a criteria of competency?

[Dejounte]

I’m going to channel the spirit of TD 21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17781) here and say that the head coach of a team doesn’t really dictate the wins and losses as much as people thinks it does. All a good coach does is MAYBE elevate a bad team into an average one. After that, it’s the talent of the top two or three players that take the team far into the playoffs.

Another sign of a good coach is keeping the egos in check. That’s it. Nothing spectacular about their contributions to wins and losses.

[GAustex]

Come out from behind that screen. You people got a lot to say until you have to do it in person.

“You People”
I am still
All day
Try to shut me up
Loser

[DAF86]

Yeah we're all unique... :lol

130 pts, Pop must be proud

Winning record since Mitch took over, tbh.

[Mugen]

Winning record since Mitch took over, tbh.

Winning record, modern day NBA offense, Wemby going off....tbh.

[slick'81]

Winning record, modern day NBA offense, Wemby going off....tbh.

he does seem more comfortable but that could be shaking off that olympic slump

[Bruno]

Another reason for Spurs to go with Johnson, if Pop retires, is the fate of Spurs' assistant coaches (Brown, Nielsen and Johnson himself).

When a renowned coach comes to a team, he picks new assistant coaches. Former assistant coaches are waived. It isn't an issue because FO doesn't care about them and because they are viewed as co-responsible of the previous coach failure.

Spurs are in a different situation. These assistant coaches have been with the team for a long time, Spurs FO, which includes Pop, likely cares about them. They also obviously aren't responsible of the situation.

[Mugen]

Another reason for Spurs to go with Johnson, if Pop retires, is the fate of Spurs' assistant coaches (Brown, Nielsen and Johnson himself).

When a renowned coach comes to a team, he picks new assistant coaches. Former assistant coaches are waived. It isn't an issue because FO doesn't care about them and because they are viewed as co-responsible of the previous coach failure.

Spurs are in a different situation. These assistant coaches have been with the team for a long time, Spurs FO, which includes Pop, likely cares about them. They also obviously aren't responsible of the situation.

If Mitch is interim coach for most of the season and has the team in play-in contention by season's end, I don't see him not getting the full time gig tbh. He'll probably get a 3yr "prove it" deal or something. I'd imagine they'd also promote the Car Wash coach from last year's SL as well.

Another interesting wrinkle is CP3's presence. He's basically an on court coach. I wonder how his departure (either at the trade deadline or in the offseason) would impact the coaching structure or do they think about bringing him back again next season for one more year if his body holds up tbh.

[LeBowen]

I’m going to channel the spirit of TD 21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17781) here and say that the head coach of a team doesn’t really dictate the wins and losses as much as people thinks it does. All a good coach does is MAYBE elevate a bad team into an average one. After that, it’s the talent of the top two or three players that take the team far into the playoffs.

Another sign of a good coach is keeping the egos in check. That’s it. Nothing spectacular about their contributions to wins and losses.

I couldn't disagree more, tbh.
Cavs looked incompatible for two seasons, with two pairs of really similar players, everyone expected some moves to happen.
Atkinson comes in and they look like a completely different team from the first game.

Spoelstra made two finals with a roster that wouldn't get out of the first round with most coaches.

Obviously when you have MVP level players you don't need to micromanage stuff, but coaching still makes the biggest difference between good and great teams.

[RC_Drunkford]

Yeah we're all unique... :lol

130 pts, Pop must be proud

the first thing Johnson criticized after the game was the defense. Pop would’ve most likely lost that game by playing a bunch of non-shooters together and sticking to premeditated substitution patterns

[scott]

If Mitch is interim coach for most of the season and has the team in play-in contention by season's end, I don't see him not getting the full time gig tbh. He'll probably get a 3yr "prove it" deal or something. I'd imagine they'd also promote the Car Wash coach from last year's SL as well.

Another interesting wrinkle is CP3's presence. He's basically an on court coach. I wonder how his departure (either at the trade deadline or in the offseason) would impact the coaching structure or do they think about bringing him back again next season for one more year if his body holds up tbh.

another thing to consider, if Mitch does the bolded part, then he’ll be a HC somewhere else if not here. That will be the kind of turnaround that will impress lots of teams.

[Russo21]

another thing to consider, if Mitch does the bolded part, then he’ll be a HC somewhere else if not here. That will be the kind of turnaround that will impress lots of teams.

We've already lost a lot of high quality assistant coaches while we've rolled with the senile old man dragging the team to the lottery year after year after year. Mitch is doing alright and seems to have the approval of the young team. They better not lose another high quality coach while hanging onto the hopefully soon to be fossil Pops

[GAustex]

Now u see
Once poop leaves things will start to get better

[LeBowen]

another thing to consider, if Mitch does the bolded part, then he’ll be a HC somewhere else if not here. That will be the kind of turnaround that will impress lots of teams.

Apparently he was in consideration for Hornets job.

[scott]

Apparently he was in consideration for Hornets job.

I’m not sure how the league feels about Will Hardy, but he was a coach who had a very rapid ascension from the Spurs ranks and Mitch could be viewed very similarly. I remember visiting the Spurs facility back when he was still a video assistant.

Spurs pedigree + an impressive interim coach stint will put him in very high demand.

I still want Becky… but I’m rapidly getting on the Mitch train.

[exstatic]

another thing to consider, if Mitch does the bolded part, then he’ll be a HC somewhere else if not here. That will be the kind of turnaround that will impress lots of teams.

He was runner up for the Wizards gig last summer. The guy they hired has connections with the new FO they brought in. Mitch may not have gotten a fair shake, but someone will give him one.

[Seventyniner]

If Mitch does well enough for another team to want him, he will be worth keeping.

[Mugen]

Would much rather have Mitch than a retread like a Mike Brown. The doomsday scenario would be bringing in Monty which I fear is a very realistic possibility considering he's back around the San Antonio area tbh.

[Leetonidas]

I'm all for riding with Mitch but it's hard to know at this point how much he is actually coaching vs just trying to do what he thinks Pop wants. I mean pulling Vic within 5 mins of the first quarter every night has to be a Pop mandate. I'd like to see him do his own thing

[Russo21]

Trump for the win! Time for Pop to go to bed ��

[Russo21]

Trump for the win! Time for Pop to go to bed 🛌

[Mugen]

I'm all for riding with Mitch but it's hard to know at this point how much he is actually coaching vs just trying to do what he thinks Pop wants. I mean pulling Vic within 5 mins of the first quarter every night has to be a Pop mandate. I'd like to see him do his own thing

Getting Vic in good spots, shooting more 3s, Challenging calls, etc. are all things that were lacking under Pop tbh. I think Mitch deserves a bit more credit.

Obviously want the old man to make a full recovery. But this terrible health issue doesn't mask the fact that he's been a bottom 5 coach for the last several years. I honestly think he was looking forward to yucking it up with the opposing coach after an L rmore rather than actually coaching his young team hard. He hasn't had that fire for a few years now. That's just natural when you get older.

This organization has needed an infusion of young blood thinking for a while now. I wish it was under better circumstances but it is what it is tbh.

[Leetonidas]

Can you right wing bootlickers fuck off and go jerk off together in the political forum? Y'all are so quick to rush to a thread and gloat about someone experiencing a serious health issue because they don't support your politics yet y'all turn into the biggest crybaby pussies in the world when someone criticizes your ideology. Fuck off already

[Leetonidas]

Getting Vic in good spots, shooting more 3s, Challenging calls, etc. are all things that were lacking under Pop tbh. I think Mitch deserves a bit more credit.

Obviously want the old man to make a full recovery. But this terrible health issue doesn't mask the fact that he's been a bottom 5 coach for the last several years. I honestly think he was looking forward to yucking it up with the opposing coach after an L rmore rather than actually coaching his young team hard. He hasn't had that fire for a few years now. That's just natural when you get older.

This organization has needed an infusion of young blood thinking for a while now. I wish it was under better circumstances but it is what it is tbh.

Is he challenging more calls though? I remember one the other night (think it was against Utah?) where they called Castle out of bounds and he clearly wasn't and he didn't challenge it but chose to challenge a less obvious call a few mins later. I also dont know if Victor is getting into better spots so much as he has been hot from 3 lately tbh

[exstatic]

Is he challenging more calls though? I remember one the other night (think it was against Utah?) where they called Castle out of bounds and he clearly wasn't and he didn't challenge it but chose to challenge a less obvious call a few mins later. I also dont know if Victor is getting into better spots so much as he has been hot from 3 lately tbh

He didn’t challenge the Castle call, and did challenge the Keldon foul, both of which were wrong decisions. I go with Sean when he says don’t listen to the players. Go with your replay video guy.

[BacktoBasics]

“You People”
I am still
All day
Try to shut me up
Loser

Why you so scared to come out from behind that screen.

[itzsoweezee]

Wishing death to pop seems like a bannable offense to me. Relegate these people to the politics forum.

I understand this place is a free for all, but this seems like something every spurs fan can agree on. You can’t be a spurs fan and hate pop.

[baseline bum]

I like what I've seen from Mitch so far. We run set plays at the first posession of the game and 2nd half. That give and go dribble hand off with CP3 on the side of the court for example. Victor also gets set up much better. We're playing modern basketball. He's very engaged on the sidelines and benches players for defensive mistakes. It's refreshing to see and better than what Pop was doing recently to be honest.

If he keeps this up, I have no problem with him getting the HC gig. I been saying for years we need a coach who's hungry to win.

Still needs some work on his use of challenges though :lol

[Mugen]

These MAGA morons celebrating like they're not in the wrong tax bracket :lol

Your fat, white-trash lives are still gonna be shit during these next 4 years tbh.

[baseline bum]

I’m going to channel the spirit of TD 21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17781) here and say that the head coach of a team doesn’t really dictate the wins and losses as much as people thinks it does. All a good coach does is MAYBE elevate a bad team into an average one. After that, it’s the talent of the top two or three players that take the team far into the playoffs.

Another sign of a good coach is keeping the egos in check. That’s it. Nothing spectacular about their contributions to wins and losses.

Lakers with Phil Jackson seemed night and day better than Lakers with Kurt Rambis the year before and I don't think 36 year old Ron Harper in 00 was any upgrade over 36 year old Derek Harper in 99. You saw how much of a difference Bob Hill made in the 1995 WCF when he spent the entire series getting in pissing matches with Rodman. Or maybe you're not old like me and didn't? :lol

I can't imagine what this team would look like if the Spurs lost that game in Houston in 1999 after starting 6-8 and Pop got fired with Coc waiting in the broadcast booth to swoop in and take the job.

[Dejounte]

You guys take this up with the spirit of TD 21. I’m merely the messenger. Oh, he also told me to end my message with this —-> :lmao :lmao

[scott]

You guys take this up with the spirit of TD 21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17781). I’m merely the messenger. Oh, he also told me to end my message with this —-> :lmao :lmao

You forgot to go full TD 21 and imply that anyone with any kind of questions surrounding Mitch was a racist, and then go into some kind of tirade defending Doc Rivers.

[Robz4000]

These MAGA morons celebrating like they're not in the wrong tax bracket :lol

Your fat, white-trash lives are still gonna be shit during these next 4 years tbh.

:lol gonna actually be worse when their daddeh Trump cuts medicaid and food stamps

[GAustex]

Can you right wing bootlickers fuck off and go jerk off together in the political forum? Y'all are so quick to rush to a thread and gloat about someone experiencing a serious health issue because they don't support your politics yet y'all turn into the biggest crybaby pussies in the world when someone criticizes your ideology. Fuck off already

Nope ain’t going nowhere
Your liberal tears are delicious

[Mugen]

:lol gonna actually be worse when their daddeh Trump cuts medicaid and food stamps

This. Actively making your life worse in the long term so you can save 50c on eggs for a few months. :lol

[GAustex]

Why you so scared to come out from behind that screen.
I am still here
All day
Try to shut me up
Loser

[GAustex]

Wishing death to pop seems like a bannable offense to me. Relegate these people to the politics forum.

I understand this place is a free for all, but this seems like something every spurs fan can agree on. You can’t be a spurs fan and hate pop.
Quote anyone wishing death
You are a liar

[DPG21920]

Going to really suck if this is how it ends for Pop and the Spurs. Of course, all that matters is Pop getting better and doing what he needs to do.

IF this is it for Pop, Im guessing Mitch finishes out the season and then they open it up with their draft pick stash for hiring the best long term coach they can. We will see.

With Wemby, the class that is the Spurs organization, new practice facility/new stadium on the way and a slew of extra draft capital, this is going to be one of the most coveted jobs in the NBA

[stnick2261]

These MAGA morons celebrating like they're not in the wrong tax bracket :lol

Your fat, white-trash lives are still gonna be shit during these next 4 years tbh.

Can we cut all of the political shit-talk from both sides? I love coming here to read about the Spurs but this is easily the worst thing about this site. I come here to get away from the politics.

[Leetonidas]

Nope ain’t going nowhere
Your liberal tears are delicious

You're a child. What a sad existence tbh. No wonder you have to base your entire personality on your shitty political ideology:lol

Hurr durr you can't make me stop!!! You sound like a fucking 5 year old

[Leetonidas]

Can we cut all of the political shit-talk from both sides? I love coming here to read about the Spurs but this is easily the worst thing about this site. I come here to get away from the politics.

Tell that to the tards that keep coming into here to laugh at someone having a stroke simply because that person speaks out against their preferred political candidate

[stnick2261]

Tell that to the tards that keep coming into here to laugh at someone having a stroke simply because that person speaks out against their preferred political candidate

I have most of them ignored already. I have half a page in this thread completely hidden, from people who I already had blocked prior to this. I agree, I'd be happy if they were banned after saying that... but the overall political shit is just never-ending.

[Seventyniner]

Going to really suck if this is how it ends for Pop and the Spurs. Of course, all that matters is Pop getting better and doing what he needs to do.

IF this is it for Pop, Im guessing Mitch finishes out the season and then they open it up with their draft pick stash for hiring the best long term coach they can. We will see.

With Wemby, the class that is the Spurs organization, new practice facility/new stadium on the way and a slew of extra draft capital, this is going to be one of the most coveted jobs in the NBA

In an unfortunately high percentage of cases, things don't end unless they end badly.

Pop retiring due to the stroke (and risks of further damage) is about as clean an end to his career as is possible.

[RC_Drunkford]

Still needs some work on his use of challenges though :lol

CP3 helped him with that

[DPG21920]

In an unfortunately high percentage of cases, things don't end unless they end badly.

Pop retiring due to the stroke (and risks of further damage) is about as clean an end to his career as is possible.

Maybe - just wish it was on better terms where he could be celebrated properly and we could see him happy and ready for his next chapter

[Mugen]

Maybe - just wish it was on better terms where he could be celebrated properly and we could see him happy and ready for his next chapter

I don't see why that's still not possible provided he makes a full recovery tbh.

[DPG21920]

I don't see why that's still not possible provided he makes a full recovery tbh.

It is, just in a different sense. It’s one thing to do it this way vs him being on the sidelines, smiling, at peace and seeing everyone in the league being able to truly embrace him rest of season etc..

[BacktoBasics]

Quote anyone wishing death
You are a liar

Pretty pathetic that your entire persona is built on being the villain on a basketball forum. Your life must be total dogshit to seek that path for attention.

Either you’ve been cheated on profusely and haven’t figured out how to deal with it like a man or you’ve been molested by a family member. I’m going with molested based on how angry you are at your own team that you allegedly love.

Just like you still love dad after he made you taste mommy.

[koriwhat]

I am still here
All day
Try to shut me up
Loser

That little girl B2B just wants to stir up drama. Fuck that dumb bitch!

[koriwhat]

Pretty pathetic that your entire persona is built on being the villain on a basketball forum. Your life must be total dogshit to seek that path for attention.

Either you’ve been cheated on profusely and haven’t figured out how to deal with it like a man or you’ve been molested by a family member. I’m going with molested based on how angry you are at your own team that you allegedly love.

Just like you still love dad after he made you taste mommy.

Wow! Rinse and repeat, huh? You have this bullshit response copy&pasta? :lmao

You're such a pathetic little bitch. :tu

[z0sa]

I’m going to channel the spirit of TD 21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17781) here and say that the head coach of a team doesn’t really dictate the wins and losses as much as people thinks it does. All a good coach does is MAYBE elevate a bad team into an average one. After that, it’s the talent of the top two or three players that take the team far into the playoffs.

Another sign of a good coach is keeping the egos in check. That’s it. Nothing spectacular about their contributions to wins and losses.

The bolded is the primary thing that separates coaches of average quality and the best to ever do it. Nothing else. X's and O's can be delegated, and easily. Things like training are routinely. Managing egos so teams can win title(s) is the pinnacle of coaching, in all team sports.

[heyheymymy]

“You People”
I am still
All day
Try to shut me up
Loser

why do most of your posts read like failed haiku attempts

[GAustex]

why do most of your posts read like failed haiku attempts

I do not know
Maybe I do not know how to write haikus nor do I care to.
I know bitch ass popobitch has routinely bitched me out because I do not think like him.
He sucks and I will forever hold it against him and anyone who wants to chide me for my beliefs.

So flame away

You want me to stop
Quit bitching at me

[exstatic]

I have most of them ignored already. I have half a page in this thread completely hidden, from people who I already had blocked prior to this. I agree, I'd be happy if they were banned after saying that... but the overall political shit is just never-ending.

It’s never ending because blue team thinks they can shame or score points off those idiots, not realizing that neither is possible, because they’re cult members. It reminds me of that meme poster:

Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you’re still retarded.

I have those same people on ignore.

[benefactor]

why do most of your posts read like failed haiku attempts
:lol

[BacktoBasics]

Wow! Rinse and repeat, huh? You have this bullshit response copy&pasta? :lmao

You're such a pathetic little bitch. :tu

Aww you guys have shared trauma.

[spursgu]

Prayers for Coach Pop.

Not even addressing the MAGA losers about their bullshit on here.

[exstatic]

Prayers for Coach Pop.

Not even addressing the MAGA losers about their bullshit on here.

It’s a complete waste of time.

[Pauleta14]

Winning record since Mitch took over, tbh.

How is that relevant to y point mate?

I'm not hating on Mitch, why is it so hard on ST to have a nuanced pov or doubts that are automatically put in the "hater" or radical box? :lol
I don't have one specific reason, but a combination

[Pauleta14]

the first thing Johnson criticized after the game was the defense. Pop would’ve most likely lost that game by playing a bunch of non-shooters together and sticking to premeditated substitution patterns

I know, I'm playing with you bc like othersu seem to take way to radically my pov.

I'm an agnostic by nature, there are too any stuff we/I don't know anyway, either side is just speculating.

It's only been a cple games, let's wait mid season at least to assess the situation, I'm not gonna judge him game by game

[Pauleta14]

Prayers for Coach Pop.

Not even addressing the MAGA losers about their bullshit on here.

I've noticed max 2 trolls, no idea why some feed them answers tbh

[DAF86]

How is that relevant to y point mate?

I'm not hating on Mitch, why is it so hard on ST to have a nuanced pov or doubts that are automatically put in the "hater" or radical box? :lol
I don't have one specific reason, but a combination

The problem here is that your take about rookie coaches is actually the opposite of "nuanced", tbh. It's just typical mindless old school mindset.

[scott]

If Mitch is the successor-in-training I’d like to see Pop return in some kind of modified form. Maybe he’s only coaching home games, and he lets Mitch really run the show. I think it would be helpful to have Pop on the bench for half of the games as what amounts to an Assistant HC role (even though he’ll have the title of HC). All of this is assuming Pop is healthy enough (priority #1) and is willing to let Mitch’s “system” take precedence

[Pauleta14]

The problem here is that your take about rookie coaches is actually the opposite of "nuanced", tbh. It's just typical mindless old school mindset.

Then you haven't read me.... at all I guess :lol

Take your time buddy

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Trump for the win! Time for Pop to go to bed ��

Tacky. Feel sorry for you. Get better

[tim_duncan_fan]

Feel sorry for you. Get better

You spelled "die in a fire" incorrectly. Not sure why that dumb shit has always been tolerated on here when it should have been gone well before the wishing ill on coaches.

They can post on 4chan and New 4chan, aka Twitter.

[SpurSpike]

If Mitch is the successor-in-training I’d like to see Pop return in some kind of modified form. Maybe he’s only coaching home games, and he lets Mitch really run the show. I think it would be helpful to have Pop on the bench for half of the games as what amounts to an Assistant HC role (even though he’ll have the title of HC). All of this is assuming Pop is healthy enough (priority #1) and is willing to let Mitch’s “system” take precedence

They were already kinda doing that to a degree. There have been a few times when Pop was not the one drawing up the plays, sometimes even at the end of close games. Last few years he has had this mind set of coaching by committee.

[ambchang]

These MAGA morons celebrating like they're not in the wrong tax bracket :lol

Your fat, white-trash lives are still gonna be shit during these next 4 years tbh.

They can no openly attack and discriminate successful coloured people to make themselves not look like bottom of the pile trashes like they are though. So all is good.

Voting for republicans because of inflations :lol
Voting for a party supported by musk because of poor welafh distribution :lol
More than half the country being nimwits :lol
Getting the news from TikTok videos and YouTube channels. :lol

[ambchang]

Too early to tell whether Mitch is a good coach or not but enough to tell that pop really lost it.

Obvious Things that ST has been calling for like better spacing, holding the players accountable, better substitutions, and increased offensive movements are implemented, resulting in expected improvements.

I still think pop is a great manager of people, where he draws so much respect from staff and players alike, and he does have a strong vision for the team along with an eye for basketball minds, but the ads and Os have past him by. Head upstairs and leave the bench grind to Mitch for now.

[ginobilized]

The modern-day philosopher Stephen Jackson put it best, Pop is not a great coach, he is a great leader.

[BacktoBasics]

If Mitch is the successor-in-training I’d like to see Pop return in some kind of modified form. Maybe he’s only coaching home games, and he lets Mitch really run the show. I think it would be helpful to have Pop on the bench for half of the games as what amounts to an Assistant HC role (even though he’ll have the title of HC). All of this is assuming Pop is healthy enough (priority #1) and is willing to let Mitch’s “system” take precedence

I feel the same way but a leadership change like that might make it hard for Mitch to command authority when you have Pop right there over his shoulder. That dynamic could be tough despite all parties being professional. I definitely think at bare minimum an advisory position or even some kind of new position where he consults and helps in some capacity. He presence would be valuable no doubt.

[Pauleta14]

For all the shit Pop has taken, from me included, he's one of the rare breed of coaches that understands the importance of defence.

I'm going to wait a few months to have an opinion on Mitch, but as important spacing and offence are, defences wins championships, not offences.

For as spectacular and entertaining Wemby can be on offence I want his defence to be the scarier part of his game. (It's tough tho in terms of energy expenditure tbh)

[Pauleta14]

The modern-day philosopher Stephen Jackson put it best, Pop is not a great coach, he is a great leader.

Pop dgaf about entertainment when the whole league, fans and medias are only focused on that aspect.

When comparing players, ppl only take into account their offensive numbers.

MJ would average 50/game if he played today bc of his defence

[LeBowen]

I want his defence to be the scarier part of his game

It already is. He's easily the best and most impactful defender in the game.
Noone else comes close to his level of dissuading players to attack the rim. Him averaging so many blocks while players are actively trying to avoid him is ridiculous.
He''s pretty much a guarantee of top3 defense for any competent roster.
Even guards can't easily beat him off the dribble. Other than elite scorers, how many times have we seen perimeter players even try to iso him and attack the paint?
All that while committing very few fouls, even when he swipes at the ball and tries to get steals.

[R. DeMurre]

I hope Pop has a recovery as close to 100% as possible, but the odds are not in his favor at his age. Pop's stroke has extra resonance for me at the moment because my best friend's dad died of a stroke a few weeks ago. He was a seemingly very healthy 72 year old, who only the week before had played two solo concerts at local venues. Hard to believe, being so sudden, but we may never see Pop in the role of NBA coach again.

[exstatic]

The modern-day philosopher Stephen Jackson put it best, Pop is not a great coach, he is a great leader.

Stephen Jackson is an ass. He’s just salty that the first words of Pop’s call, post trade from GS were “we’re not going to talk about an extension”.

[Pauleta14]

It already is. He's easily the best and most impactful defender in the game.
Noone else comes close to his level of dissuading players to attack the rim. Him averaging so many blocks while players are actively trying to avoid him is ridiculous.
He''s pretty much a guarantee of top3 defense for any competent roster.
Even guards can't easily beat him off the dribble. Other than elite scorers, how many times have we seen perimeter players even try to iso him and attack the paint?
All that while committing very few fouls, even when he swipes at the ball and tries to get steals.

He is great already, but it's difficult to sustain the same efforts on both ends when you go for 50 as we've seen it last game. There were many possessions where he let Poole go for a layup he could've block or at least bother, he wasn't as active on help defense.
It's not a critic, I'm not sure ppl realise how insanely difficult it is to impact both ways on a regular basis, almost no player does it as much as Wemby and it has a cost in terms of energy "available"

The pb is that media, fans etc judge players's level on their offensive games mostly.

Wemby got shat on when he was bad on offense before his last 3 games despite being stupidly impactful on defence, but it was ignored by most.

He's aware of it and he's human, he wants to be recognized as one of the best and knows his offensives numbers are what he'll mostly be judge on. He defence is already taken for granted or as "it's normal when you're 7'5..."

[TimmyBuckets]

This thread devolved into a MAGA fap-fest involving quotes from Stephen Jackson. Classic ST. Minor stroke hope he recovers and gets back out there. ST is gonna take Wemby's 50 pice and attribute it to the absence of Pop; I can already smell it.

[koriwhat]

Aww you guys have shared trauma.

Projection at its finest when it comes to you and your bitter salty takes BasicBitch. :tu

[koriwhat]

They can no openly attack and discriminate successful coloured people to make themselves not look like bottom of the pile trashes like they are though. So all is good.

Voting for republicans because of inflations :lol
Voting for a party supported by musk because of poor welafh distribution :lol
More than half the country being nimwits :lol
Getting the news from TikTok videos and YouTube channels. :lol

Lmao you regressives live in a world of hyperbole and make believe.

[ambchang]

Lmao you regressives live in a world of hyperbole and make believe.

Yeah, because inflation wasn’t on record as being the biggest reason voters went republicans.

Of course, racism wasn’t a valid answer so inflation really was in reality the excuse, because it never made sense.

[HemisfairArena]

Yeah, because inflation wasn’t on record as being the biggest reason voters went republicans.

Of course, racism wasn’t a valid answer so inflation really was in reality the excuse, because it never made sense.

Open border crushed ya, dumbass,,,,Republicans get the trifecta,,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

Popobitch talkin' shit about Trump and karma came and got his dumbass,,,,,dude is the most overrated NBA coach ever,,,,

[Bill_Brasky]

Popobitch talkin' shit about Trump and karma came and got his dumbass,,,,,dude is the most overrated NBA coach ever,,,,

Imagine hating the best coach we've ever had and a great man because you wanna ride some dumb orange political faggots cock. Shut the fuck up loser.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

The modern-day philosopher Stephen Jackson put it best, Pop is not a great coach, he is a great leader.
it's enough to trace how the team’s offense changed from 1999 to 2017 to understand how unfounded this statement is

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Popobitch talkin' shit about Trump and karma came and got his dumbass,,,,,dude is the most overrated NBA coach ever,,,,
why didn't your mom just suck off that that night?
the world would be a better place

[ambchang]

Open border crushed ya, dumbass,,,,Republicans get the trifecta,,,,,

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls?amp=1


In case you don’t understand the charts, 32% chose economy and 11% chose immigration as their number 1 issue, with the majority of those voting for the republicans. 90% of 11% is 9.9%. 80% of 32% is 25.6%. Since it appears republicans seem to have a general misunderstanding of numbers, I might also add that 25.6 > 9.9. By quite a bit.

34% had state of democracy as the number one issue but those who did chose democracy by a wide margin. So it also shows that republicans want to make America great again but doesn’t really care about the state of democracy, even though they had been crying about vote rigging for four years. It’s just defies logic.

Btw, it’s cute republicans actually think the rich guys will do anything to curb the major source of low cost labour to make them richer. They will put on a show, put out a few sound bites, abuse a few helpless families for news, but after four years I will bet there will be as many, if not more, illegal immigrants as now.

[Robz4000]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls?amp=1


In case you don’t understand the charts, 32% chose economy and 11% chose immigration as their number 1 issue, with the majority of those voting for the republicans. 90% of 11% is 9.9%. 80% of 32% is 25.6%. Since it appears republicans seem to have a general misunderstanding of numbers, I might also add that 25.6 > 9.9. By quite a bit.

34% had state of democracy as the number one issue but those who did chose democracy by a wide margin. So it also shows that republicans want to make America great again but doesn’t really care about the state of democracy, even though they had been crying about vote rigging for four years. It’s just defies logic.

Btw, it’s cute republicans actually think the rich guys will do anything to curb the major source of low cost labour to make them richer. They will put on a show, put out a few sound bites, abuse a few helpless families for news, but after four years I will bet there will be as many, if not more, illegal immigrants as now.

:lol and they'll turn around and blame the dems which Trump's fanbase will eat up

[baseline bum]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls?amp=1


In case you don’t understand the charts, 32% chose economy and 11% chose immigration as their number 1 issue, with the majority of those voting for the republicans. 90% of 11% is 9.9%. 80% of 32% is 25.6%. Since it appears republicans seem to have a general misunderstanding of numbers, I might also add that 25.6 > 9.9. By quite a bit.

34% had state of democracy as the number one issue but those who did chose democracy by a wide margin. So it also shows that republicans want to make America great again but doesn’t really care about the state of democracy, even though they had been crying about vote rigging for four years. It’s just defies logic.

Btw, it’s cute republicans actually think the rich guys will do anything to curb the major source of low cost labour to make them richer. They will put on a show, put out a few sound bites, abuse a few helpless families for news, but after four years I will bet there will be as many, if not more, illegal immigrants as now.

The Dear Leader literally hires illegals. LOL low information Trumptards thinking he gives a shit about stopping illegal immigration.

[baseline bum]

:lol and they'll turn around and blame the dems which Trump's fanbase will eat up

Best part was Trump never caring about the wall when he had every branch of government for two years, but then shutting the government down for a month the second the democrats took power in the house so he could play victim and blame them for him not getting the wall built. His cult base thought a campaign slogan was real.

[BacktoBasics]

Popobitch talkin' shit about Trump and karma came and got his dumbass,,,,,dude is the most overrated NBA coach ever,,,,

Can’t imagine the amount of stupidity and lack of basic humanity you must harbor to come on this forum and call yourself a fan while opening cheering someone having a stroke.

You people don’t have the courage to talk like this from anywhere other than behind a screen.

[ginobilized]

I just want to own my action here of sharing Stephen Jackson's quote. I thought it was interesting, but, in no way do I down play the severity of Pop's recent stroke, his seemingly infinite worth as a caring human being, and the greatest coach SA will ever have.
This isn't the right place to be spewing so much negativity.

Get well soon, Pop!

[dn0774]

Quick question since this thread has devolved into a political discussion; I can understand voters prioritizing economy when casting their ballots, genuinely curious how so many people became convinced that meant voting for the Republican ticket. Recent history has shown Republican terms to be unmitigated disasters with regards to the economy. I dabble on both sides of the aisle depending on the issue but the marketing on this one (economy) has intrigued me because the Republican track record is laughable yet many voters didn't seem to connect the dots on it.

Also, get well Pop and thank you (and Tim/Tony/Manu/David/RC) for a 20+ year run of dominance that is more than a fan could ever ask for.

[SPURt]

Quick question since this thread has devolved into a political discussion; I can understand voters prioritizing economy when casting their ballots, genuinely curious how so many people became convinced that meant voting for the Republican ticket. Recent history has shown Republican terms to be unmitigated disasters with regards to the economy. I dabble on both sides of the aisle depending on the issue but the marketing on this one (economy) has intrigued me because the Republican track record is laughable yet many voters didn't seem to connect the dots on it.

Also, get well Pop and thank you (and Tim/Tony/Manu/David/RC) for a 20+ year run of dominance that is more than a fan could ever ask for.
Because Americans idolize wealth. The ticket with the people like Musk and Trump represent what most Americans aspire to be. At some point, Americans stopped trying to make the country better for the next generation economically and have adopted a stance of “because it was hard for me, it must be hard for you”.

The craziest part is that the odds of earning $1 billion dollars is so empty. Great, you made enough money that generations of your line can’t spend it all. So what? The US dollar isn’t of real value, neither is crypto. It has value because all of us adults in the US agree to play make believe.

Historically, the richest of the human species have not been the best of the human species. Trump and Musk are not the best of us. They have never done anything at their own expense to help someone else. Before the smoother brained individuals come with the “Musk bought Twitter for us!!”. Twitter still has value, but even if it didn’t, Musk wouldn’t lose enough money to change his quality of life.

[cd98]

Popobitch talkin' shit about Trump and karma came and got his dumbass,,,,,dude is the most overrated NBA coach ever,,,,

Honestly, Karma? It's more like he's old and drinks a lot of wine. That he had a mini-stroke is not unusual for people his age. I'm just surprised there is talk of him coming back to coach. Seems like the stress and the travel would be bad for someone his age. Why not be happy with what you've done and give someone else a chance to be a head coach in the NBA?

[scott]

The modern-day philosopher Stephen Jackson put it best, Pop is not a great coach, he is a great leader.

I don’t think SJax meant this as an insult or a diminishment of Pop’s coaching, as some are taking it, but rather as praise that Pop is more than just a coach. It’s a lot easier to be a great coach than it is a great leader.

[cd98]

I don’t think SJax meant this as an insult or a diminishment of Pop’s coaching, as some are taking it, but rather as praise that Pop is more than just a coach. It’s a lot easier to be a great coach than it is a great leader.

Trying to understand SJAX is a waste of time. He's the guy that has always respected the game and then he admitted to getting high before games and not being able to shoot straight. Like a lot of these former players, they think that just because they played professional basketball, everything they say is gospel when most of the time its just them talking without thinking. I mean, the game may have passed Pop by as is evident over the last several years, but he did coach the team that was labeled the Beautiful Game, so it's not like the guy doesn't know how to coach. But being able to draw up plays is probably not as important as leadership and getting people to play hard and put their egos aside for the team.

[widowmaker]

Sounds like a lot of people on this board wanted word salad to win.

[Teamduncan21]

Quick question since this thread has devolved into a political discussion; I can understand voters prioritizing economy when casting their ballots, genuinely curious how so many people became convinced that meant voting for the Republican ticket. Recent history has shown Republican terms to be unmitigated disasters with regards to the economy. I dabble on both sides of the aisle depending on the issue but the marketing on this one (economy) has intrigued me because the Republican track record is laughable yet many voters didn't seem to connect the dots on it.

Also, get well Pop and thank you (and Tim/Tony/Manu/David/RC) for a 20+ year run of dominance that is more than a fan could ever ask for.

Question to your question. What metrics did you use to say republicans are disasters to economy. And how recent is recent. As I have an answer in mind but I wanna make sure we are on same line.

[koriwhat]

You people don’t have the courage to talk like this from anywhere other than behind a screen.

Same could be said of you and has been said of you. :lmao

Although, I do agree with showing Pop atleast some respect and not wishing ill will on him. I truly feel bad for him and his family regardless of politics

[spurs10]

Popobitch talkin' shit about Trump and karma came and got his dumbass,,,,,dude is the most overrated NBA coach ever,,,, The most winning coach of all time in all team sports. He shits you, as I do. Learn to use a comma you illiterate moron. :lmao

[Chomag]

I hate how politics has gotten in here but to be fair it was Pop who decided to inject his.

Anyway, I hope we do hear some good news on his recovery going forward and I wish him the best and well.

Time to go enjoy your wine old man.