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SnakeBoy
11-07-2024, 04:56 PM
Cool discussion but let's be real, ya'll gonna do whatever the childless cat ladies tell you to do.

Spurs Homer
11-07-2024, 05:02 PM
I'll give you the cold hard truth. Few cared until they started losing the War i.e all those Scientists the USA imported. Not how many "foreigners" they deported or even buried. Nazi Germany hosting the Olympics set an International standard. One could even argue as long as Trump doesn't dwarf into a Warmonger, he can pull it off.

This playbook you speak of is being currently used by almost every nation that has been recently butt fucked by mass migration. That's the correlation. Not a nation 100 years ago, that didn't face mass migration and was even coming off the heels of population drop.


the migration did not butt fuck anyone or any country

the migration = an opportunity

a) a country can take the migration and use it to their advantage by creating more wealth and using those new migrants to get more tax dollars and become a superpower…

or

b) greedy evil billionaires can dust off the old playbook and follow it to a T and demonize the newcomers, brainwash/radicalize the racists in the population and use the “migration/illegal aliens” issue for their agenda/$$ coffers…because the playbook works…
Radicalize people with fear/hate in their hearts and tell them these “others” are taking whats theirs, taking their jobs, etc

and you can gain power while never really giving a shit about the morons who easily become radicalized/brainwashed to their own demise,eventually


like chickens voting for colonel sanders…it always works…

Spurs Homer
11-07-2024, 05:10 PM
Meh, it seems to be mostly fallout from inflation. Once the Republicans fuck things up again we'll see what happens.


unfortunately…breaking news…
it is true in a sense…

however

this is now an information war (mis/disinformation war) and the rt wing ecosystem is superior by a million percent over the left wing…

the so-called “mainstream media” is owned and run by billionaires and all the hosts/anchors are all republicans, former republicans or rich democrats and they are not the ones going to suffer when the trump nazis start rounding up people

the information/disinformation won the election because people voted for the team that owns the disinformation and they pump lies/propaganda 24/7

so when the trump team starts ruining this great economy that right now is the best on the planet and the same economy that most voters were programmed to believe was the worst..

well- when things go south- this rt wing machine will start pumping out their false garbage
”best economy ever under trump!” “No one has ever seen anything like this before!”

“America is back!”

even if people start getting kicked off medicare, ss , etc

koriwhat
11-07-2024, 06:54 PM
the migration did not butt fuck anyone or any country

the migration = an opportunity

a) a country can take the migration and use it to their advantage by creating more wealth and using those new migrants to get more tax dollars and become a superpower…

or

b) greedy evil billionaires can dust off the old playbook and follow it to a T and demonize the newcomers, brainwash/radicalize the racists in the population and use the “migration/illegal aliens” issue for their agenda/$$ coffers…because the playbook works…
Radicalize people with fear/hate in their hearts and tell them these “others” are taking whats theirs, taking their jobs, etc

and you can gain power while never really giving a shit about the morons who easily become radicalized/brainwashed to their own demise,eventually


like chickens voting for colonel sanders…it always works…

^
Look guys, true mental illness and dumbfuckery on full display by loony PedoProject loving Spurs Homer. Fucking clown!

GAustex
11-07-2024, 07:08 PM
unfortunately…breaking news…
it is true in a sense…

however

this is now an information war (mis/disinformation war) and the rt wing ecosystem is superior by a million percent over the left wing…

the so-called “mainstream media” is owned and run by billionaires and all the hosts/anchors are all republicans, former republicans or rich democrats and they are not the ones going to suffer when the trump nazis start rounding up people

the information/disinformation won the election because people voted for the team that owns the disinformation and they pump lies/propaganda 24/7

so when the trump team starts ruining this great economy that right now is the best on the planet and the same economy that most voters were programmed to believe was the worst..

well- when things go south- this rt wing machine will start pumping out their false garbage
”best economy ever under trump!” “No one has ever seen anything like this before!”

“America is back!”

even if people start getting kicked off medicare, ss , etc

Does it hurt?

Leetonidas
11-07-2024, 07:36 PM
Nutshell

-Alice in Chains

Good song :tu

koriwhat
11-07-2024, 08:15 PM
-Alice in Chains

Good song :tu

Were you a Mad Season fan too? :tu

Winehole23
11-07-2024, 08:27 PM
1854674218728014111

https://x.com/SLCLunk/status/1854674218728014111

Leetonidas
11-07-2024, 08:52 PM
Were you a Mad Season fan too? :tu

Im aware of em but never actually game them a listen tbh

Winehole23
11-07-2024, 09:31 PM
ya fuckin liars

lol angry, sore Republican winners

1854339046493012198

https://x.com/AlbertBrooks/status/1854339046493012198

Blake
11-07-2024, 10:49 PM
ya fuckin liars

lol angry, sore Republican winners

1854339046493012198

https://x.com/AlbertBrooks/status/1854339046493012198

The rules for them are simple: if they're losing it must be fixed.

Thread
11-07-2024, 10:57 PM
ya fuckin liars

lol angry, sore Republican winners

1854339046493012198

https://x.com/AlbertBrooks/status/1854339046493012198

Now Brooks is coming out. He's old and sodded and already made his fortune so he finally surfaces. That's what happens when you try twice to blow Trump's head off and he lives to make President again.

Winehole23
11-07-2024, 11:16 PM
Now Brooks is coming out. He's old and sodded and already made his fortune so he finally surfaces. That's what happens when you try twice to blow Trump's head off and he lives to make President again.Iit was a registered Republican who tried and failed to blow Trump's head off.

The weird thing about all this is how y'all seem to think it won't hit y'all too.

HemisfairArena
11-08-2024, 12:27 AM
Iit was a registered Republican who tried and failed to blow Trump's head off.

The weird thing about all this is how y'all seem to think it won't hit y'all too.


Give me a fuckin' break, Wine Ho,,,,your side used Hitler,,,Nazi's,,,,white Supremists,,,,everything you could to bring the gullible to take a shot at Trump but you call the Trump supporters dangerous. Let me ask you this,,,,,how many voters tried to end Harris' life?

hater
11-08-2024, 12:31 AM
Give me a fuckin' break, Wine Ho,,,,your side used Hitler,,,Nazi's,,,,white Supremists,,,,everything you could to bring the gullible to take a shot at Trump but you call the Trump supporters dangerous. Let me ask you this,,,,,how many voters tried to end Harris' life?

Dont forget the fake Russiagate (including Obama tapping Trumps phones) that was concocted by the FBI and CIA and pushed for years

hater
11-08-2024, 12:38 AM
Called it :tu

https://x.com/YousefMunayyer/status/1854687175742243201

We dont reward genociders

Los latinos have spoken

velik_m
11-08-2024, 01:11 AM
Like you say, stooping to his level will only make things worse.

Democrat party is without doubt too "centrist" if not outright republican lite... Imo for most Americans though that's not really the problem. The problem is that the other side can paint them out to be "Marxist" "commie"etc etc while doing far worse, and democrats are too stupid to properly cal them out for it. The best example of which is the voter fraud/ stop the steal accusations, while literally plotting to use fake electors to steal the presidency..

The best attacks on trump came from his former staff, generals, Arnold Schwarzenegger, for his coup attempt but they barely got any amplitude, I still can't believe the fake electors scheme got so little coverage.. half the reasons people would give for trump were plainly false (peace candidate! Better economy! Fix immigration!) all of these are objectively not true.

At the end of the day, trump only won when going against women, it may be as simple and stupid as that.

We're left to hope that like last time, most of it was just BS to get votes/money from his marks... But there will be real damage to the judiciary and political parties that will eventually lead to civil war imo...

I'm glad I got the fuck out 21 years ago

No, the best attack was when they called him weird, because that diminished his status as authoritarian. Calling him Hitler or future or future dictator, just makes him more attractive to authoritarians. It's not that people didn't see january 6th coup attempt - they saw it and liked it. With authoritarians it's not about policies, or right wing/left wing, it's about who shows power, even if that power hurts them.

There was plenty of research on this topic. E.g.:


Who likes authoritarianism, and how do they want to change their government?

While most people see representative democracy as a good way to govern their country, large shares of the public in many countries are open to nondemocratic alternatives.

Indeed, a median of 31% across 24 nations are supportive of authoritarian systems, according to a recent Pew Research Center survey. The survey asked about two authoritarian models of government: a system in which a strong leader can make decisions without interference from parliament or the courts (“authoritarian leader”) and a system in which the military rules the country (“military rule”).

...

Still, those who support authoritarian systems and those who do not differ on which solutions they think will help fix their democracy.

First, supporters of authoritarianism are much less likely than nonsupporters to offer any solution or idea in about half the countries polled.

Second, in some countries, those who support authoritarian systems are more likely than nonsupporters to mention economic issues.

...



https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/28/who-likes-authoritarianism-and-how-do-they-want-to-change-their-government/

The one saving grace is that authoritarian regimes are terrible for the economy and so they become increasingly unstable over time, but USA is world's no 1 economy, so there is a long way until that will actually matter.

ChumpDumper
11-08-2024, 03:46 AM
The one saving grace is that authoritarian regimes are terrible for the economy and so they become increasingly unstable over time, but USA is world's no 1 economy, so there is a long way until that will actually matter.Don't underestimate Republicans' ability to tank an economy in a short time.

Thread
11-08-2024, 05:03 AM
Don't underestimate Republicans' ability to tank an economy in a short time.

You all shouldn't [underestimate] President Trump, or, at the very least taken shooting lessons.

This is now twice that he left ya's where he found ya's.

GAustex
11-08-2024, 09:08 AM
You all shouldn't [underestimate] President Trump, or, at the very least taken shooting lessons.

This is now twice that he left ya's where he found ya's.

It’s like a funeral in here
Like someone died

Winehole23
11-08-2024, 09:32 AM
Realignment

1854646614553715182

https://x.com/patrickjfl/status/1854646614553715182

Thread
11-08-2024, 09:43 AM
It’s like a funeral in here
Like someone died

Yep.

diego
11-08-2024, 12:20 PM
No, the best attack was when they called him weird, because that diminished his status as authoritarian. Calling him Hitler or future or future dictator, just makes him more attractive to authoritarians. It's not that people didn't see january 6th coup attempt - they saw it and liked it. With authoritarians it's not about policies, or right wing/left wing, it's about who shows power, even if that power hurts them.

There was plenty of research on this topic. E.g.:



https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/28/who-likes-authoritarianism-and-how-do-they-want-to-change-their-government/

The one saving grace is that authoritarian regimes are terrible for the economy and so they become increasingly unstable over time, but USA is world's no 1 economy, so there is a long way until that will actually matter.

The attraction to authoritarians is something to consider for sure, but I don't think calling them weird is productive, it furthers the elitist vs popular thing and it doesn't address the tangible fuckery trump has engaged in. To rile them up sure it's effective, I just don't see the practical gain, seems like it's just stooping to their level

But yeah I agree going straight to Hitler, turns half of them on and is easily dismissed by the other half as an exaggeration

TSA
11-08-2024, 03:34 PM
but it wasnt hyperbole to suggest kamala is a threat to democracy?

https://x.com/RCPolitics/status/1854924342528032829

Apparently not :lol

spurraider21
11-08-2024, 03:36 PM
https://x.com/RCPolitics/status/1854924342528032829

Apparently not :lol
i guess if your definition of truth is "whatever people vote for" then sure

SnakeBoy
11-08-2024, 03:49 PM
Realignment

1854646614553715182

https://x.com/patrickjfl/status/1854646614553715182

Wonder what pre-Clinton looked like

Winehole23
11-08-2024, 03:54 PM
Wonder what pre-Clinton looked likewhat did it look like to you?

The election of Bill Clements as governor in 1980 signaled the big party switch in Texas, but Rick Perry was still Al Gore's state campaign chair in 1988.

Winehole23
11-08-2024, 04:15 PM
One of the fleeting jokes in "The Gay Place," by Billy Lee Brammer is that approximately all the very conservative Texas Democrats were approximately 100% in agreement with Republicans already.

This was back in the early 1960s. Even in the late 1990s, from the personal experience bank, I can report that the convention of East Texas Democrats near Bee Cave, TX was abuzz and titillated by the rumor of Rick Perry's imminent arrival to speak to them -- of course, they had all voted for Rick Perry, even though they mostly voted for Democrats locally.

This pattern was not uncommon in Texas, back in the pre-Clinton day.

https://utpress.utexas.edu/9780292708310/

Winehole23
11-08-2024, 04:21 PM
In Vidor, Bridge City, Orange, Port Arthur, Beaumont, Pasadena. That I recall. Maybe I did see Longview in there, but I remember the party having a more toxic triangle vibe.

The plaid -- and race separation -- and myriad pies for Christmas thing in east Texas, is it still a thing?

BackHome
11-08-2024, 09:13 PM
Who ever thought getting Liz Cheney to campaign for the Democrats needs to be tarred and feathered as she is hated by both sides no one can stand that War Whore.

DarrinS
11-08-2024, 10:30 PM
Evidently the left aren't being introspective and learning a lesson. Good. I'm out.

DarrinS
11-08-2024, 10:56 PM
Lol, losing the youth vote

ChumpDumper
11-08-2024, 11:39 PM
Lol, losing the youth vote

Trump's gonna buy 'em all houses!

DMX7
11-08-2024, 11:52 PM
Who ever thought getting Liz Cheney to campaign for the Democrats needs to be tarred and feathered as she is hated by both sides no one can stand that War Whore.

Ok, well both Biden and Hilary voted for both the Afghanistan and Iraq War.

DMX7
11-08-2024, 11:54 PM
Trump's gonna buy 'em all houses!

Our country is buried in debt and Harris was promising $25K home down payments... no doubt it in addition to debt cancellations and other giveaways.

Trump is even worse. He just does it differently with tax cuts.

ChumpDumper
11-09-2024, 12:06 AM
Our country is buried in debt and Harris was promising $25K home down payments... no doubt it in addition to debt cancellations and other giveaways.

Trump is even worse. He just does it differently with tax cuts.No shit.

DMX7
11-09-2024, 12:07 AM
No shit.

The point is they both suck.

FrostKing
11-09-2024, 12:25 AM
One side preached Joy. Tone deaf.

ChumpDumper
11-09-2024, 12:49 AM
The point is they both suck.

No shit.

ChumpDumper
11-09-2024, 12:49 AM
One side preached Joy. Tone deaf.DOOM!

BackHome
11-09-2024, 01:01 AM
What Camp do you think your going to be sent to Chump?

FrostKing
11-09-2024, 01:05 AM
DOOM!
Deutschland government had a meltdown in response to Trump winning. Budgets overload :lol

ChumpDumper
11-09-2024, 01:40 AM
What Camp do you think your going to be sent to Chump?

None. I look like an Übermensch compared to most and your side is easily fooled.

FrostKing
11-09-2024, 01:54 AM
the migration did not butt fuck anyone or any country

the migration = an opportunity

a) a country can take the migration and use it to their advantage by creating more wealth and using those new migrants to get more tax dollars and become a superpower…

or

b) greedy evil billionaires can dust off the old playbook and follow it to a T and demonize the newcomers, brainwash/radicalize the racists in the population and use the “migration/illegal aliens” issue for their agenda/$$ coffers…because the playbook works…
Radicalize people with fear/hate in their hearts and tell them these “others” are taking whats theirs, taking their jobs, etc

and you can gain power while never really giving a shit about the morons who easily become radicalized/brainwashed to their own demise,eventually


like chickens voting for colonel sanders…it always works…
Ofcourse but as many Liberal initiatives we like - must come gradually and controlled.

I have argued to my Polish buddies thar PL must import to become the region power it is destined to. When a foreigner adapts your way of life and is successful - big flex

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 04:39 AM
Who ever thought getting Liz Cheney to campaign for the Democrats needs to be tarred and feathered as she is hated by both sides no one can stand that War Whore.I was puzzled by the serial public hugging of horrible Republicans by Harris too. Harris's serial public embracing of billionaires and celebrities perhaps did not tend to endear, either.

It was a bad campaign, and a weak candidate. So weak as in fact to lose to an obviously corrupt degenerate.

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 04:46 AM
Radical change is coming. Trump 2.0 will be the most radical government any of us have ever seen.

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 04:54 AM
More than one in five voters, 22%, said inflation had caused them “severe hardship” over the last year; they went for Trump by 50 points. More than half, 53%, said inflation had caused them “moderate hardship”; they went for Trump by 6 points. A lucky quarter, 24% to be precise, said it caused them no hardship at all; they went for Harris by 57 points. It Was Always About Inflation (https://jacobin.com/2024/11/trump-2024-election-inflation-economy)

FrostKing
11-09-2024, 05:19 AM
Radical change is coming. Trump 2.0 will be the most radical government any of us have ever seen.
Tune into European politics. We have more intense princess.

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 05:20 AM
Tune into European politics. We have more intense princess.I wasn't aware we were having a contest

FrostKing
11-09-2024, 05:22 AM
I wasn't aware we were having a contest
Haha. Relax. Acting like everything Trump said is set in stone.

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 05:26 AM
Haha. Relax. Acting like everything Trump said is set in stone.if Rs win both legislative bodies, intention can flow from Trump's lips to US statutes, to the good people who enforce laws among the American people.

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 05:28 AM
Trump's our sh!tty Napoleon

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 05:31 AM
strategies for the upcoming round of seller's inflation



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbzD0sAX0Ag4pgg?format=png&name=medium

FrostKing
11-09-2024, 05:48 AM
Trump's our sh!tty Napoleon
:lol I'm listening

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 06:11 AM
:lol I'm listeningfor one, will inspire generations of shitty merch and regalia, being the strongman currently restoring the honor of his country

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 07:07 AM
Will be interesting to see how much pull three South African billionaires -- Peter Theil, Elon Musk and David Sacks -- have with the great man.


I heard that Elon was on Trump's call to Putin after the election.

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 07:12 AM
https://s1.img.bidsquare.com/item/l/9990/9990798.jpeg?t=1MRGrA

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 07:17 AM
https://www.numisaisne.fr/84280-large_default/medal-coronation-of-napoleon-bonaparte-1769-1821.jpg

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 07:19 AM
https://i.etsystatic.com/20957821/r/il/81b5e5/3593185494/il_1080xN.3593185494_5wqk.jpg

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 07:25 AM
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.GBr_0WpR-YCa1fgKJD9g6AHaHa?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 07:34 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb4lRo6aUAALEh1?format=jpg&name=large

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 07:35 AM
Dems win all but one Senate swing seats

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 08:11 AM
school vouchers voted down


But despite Trump’s big win in the presidential race, vouchers were again soundly rejected by significant majorities of Americans. In Kentucky (https://apnews.com/article/kentucky-election-school-choice-constitutional-amendment-b3acdf8fdb770b82e0263d27cedc2cc4), a ballot initiative that would have allowed public money to go toward private schooling was defeated roughly 65% to 35% — the same margin as in Arizona in 2018 and the inverse (https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/results/2024/11/05/kentucky-president/) of the margin by which Trump won Kentucky. In Nebraska (https://nebraskaexaminer.com/2024/11/05/nebraska-voters-reject-state-funding-for-students-attending-private-k-12-schools/), nearly all 93 counties voted to repeal an existing voucher program; even its reddest county, where 95% of voters supported Trump, said no to vouchers. And in Colorado (https://coloradosun.com/2024/11/07/amendment-80-results-colorado/), voters defeated an effort to add a “right to school choice” to the state constitution, language that might have allowed parents to send their kids to private schools on the public dime.https://www.propublica.org/article/school-vouchers-2024-election-trump

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 08:12 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb7jgpVWIAAnjf8?format=jpg&name=medium

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 08:18 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb3ez4tXcAAQUxY?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb3fD1RW0AEmV61?format=png&name=900x900

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 08:27 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb8g2HpX0AEktN-?format=png&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb8g3IJWoAE5fnb?format=png&name=900x900

Why Did Trump Win? These Dems Have Discovered a Very Disturbing Answer | The New Republic (https://newrepublic.com/article/188238/trump-won-voter-perception-2024)

baseline bum
11-09-2024, 08:50 AM
school vouchers voted down

https://www.propublica.org/article/school-vouchers-2024-election-trump

They won soundly in Texas though in the primaries.

baseline bum
11-09-2024, 08:51 AM
Trump's our sh!tty Napoleon

He's fat Hitler

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 08:54 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb8nvJxWsAARaxf?format=jpg&name=900x900

GAustex
11-09-2024, 08:56 AM
Cuban was a disaster

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 09:04 AM
They won soundly in Texas though in the primaries.Abbott's been saying he has all the votes he needs now -- we'll see

GAustex
11-09-2024, 09:11 AM
Many not all but many big city public schools are a disaster
Influx of non speaking illegal invaders has devastated public schools

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 09:14 AM
Many not all but many big city public schools are a disaster
Influx of non speaking illegal invaders has devastated public schoolsbullshit

the big problem is that there are few private schools in rural Texas counties. public schools remain important there, socially and culturally.

public schools are the career escalator. they're a per se public good.

GAustex
11-09-2024, 09:20 AM
Liar
Public schools in urban areas are a disaster and cost way too much with a shitty return

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 09:28 AM
Liar
Public schools in urban areas are a disaster and cost way too much with a shitty returnbased on what, man?

your spidey-sense?

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 09:30 AM
lol Texas Republicans defunding public schools for 20 years then complaining about their performance

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2a4RMCXIAEBt4M.jpg

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 09:38 AM
school choice has blown up the budget in every state it's been tried -- with worse educational outcomes pretty much everywhere it's been measured

hard to imagine that wouldn't happen here too

baseline bum
11-09-2024, 09:51 AM
school choice has blown up the budget in every state it's been tried -- with worse educational outcomes pretty much everywhere it's been measured

hard to imagine that wouldn't happen here too

That's the entire point of it. It's supposed to be more expensive to loot wealth from the people into the hands of a privileged few.

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 09:51 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb8g7ExXcAAlSQP?format=jpg&name=large

baseline bum
11-09-2024, 09:54 AM
Abbott's been saying he has all the votes he needs now -- we'll see

I believe the cripple. It was the main issue for the primary in my state house district and the popular incumbent who was against it got skullfucked by the newcomer who was for it.

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 11:02 AM
1855279094629380374https://x.com/HeerJeet/status/1855279094629380374

GAustex
11-09-2024, 11:35 AM
Run that retard out front
Do it
She is the answer

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 11:44 AM
Run that retard out front
Do it
She is the answerThe pernt is that there is such a thing as an AOC/Trump voter...

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 11:50 AM
...realignment...

GOP was the party of rich, college degreed 12 years ago, in 2024 it appears the Dems are the party of wealthy, educated people.

koriwhat
11-09-2024, 04:26 PM
Dems are the party of ... educated people.

LMFAO Sure.

https://www.tvinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/the-view-hosts-stage-1014x570.jpg

SnakeBoy
11-09-2024, 07:09 PM
I believe the cripple. It was the main issue for the primary in my state house district and the popular incumbent who was against it got skullfucked by the newcomer who was for it.

They all did. The peoples want school choice.

GAustex
11-09-2024, 07:17 PM
Former Ambassador Nikki Haley and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will not be in the next Trump administration, according to a post on Truth Social.

Good
Fuck em both

Winehole23
11-09-2024, 10:30 PM
LMFAO Sure.

https://www.tvinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/the-view-hosts-stage-1014x570.jpgdude, you think the entertainers on The View are not rich?

Winehole23
11-10-2024, 12:42 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb3LoNtWwAArHqE?format=jpg&name=900x900

koriwhat
11-10-2024, 12:49 PM
dude, you think the entertainers on The View are not rich?

Of course they're rich you dumbass. You claimed regressives are the party of the educated and I gave you a clear example of those "educated" people in your cult.

If you're so educated, why don't you explain yourself in that other thread about Jack Smith? Still don't want to touch that because you clearly were in the wrong? Just like all shit regressives, you're no different.

koriwhat
11-10-2024, 12:51 PM
Former Ambassador Nikki Haley and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo will not be in the next Trump administration, according to a post on Truth Social.

Good
Fuck em both

Please be true! Both of them are slimy pieces of shit!

koriwhat
11-10-2024, 12:52 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gb3LoNtWwAArHqE?format=jpg&name=900x900

LMAO How'd that fare for them dipshits? :lol

Tyronn Lue
11-10-2024, 09:10 PM
If people didn't quote Joey and Thread, I'd not know they exist here. Thanks El Nono.

Thread
11-11-2024, 12:31 PM
If people didn't quote Joey and Thread, I'd not know they exist here. Thanks El Nono.

Only pussies & assholes use the Ignore Feature, Lue.

benefactor
11-11-2024, 07:49 PM
If people didn't quote Joey and Thread, I'd not know they exist here. Thanks El Nono.
Same tbh. I never took either coward off ignore and don't plan on it

Thread
11-11-2024, 11:15 PM
Same tbh. I never took either coward off ignore and don't plan on it

You just talked to me the day after Trump made President again. Promised you'd never talk to me again.

jejejeje!!!

koriwhat
11-12-2024, 06:12 PM
If people didn't quote Joey and Thread, I'd not know they exist here. Thanks El Nono.

To bad you do exist though.

koriwhat
11-12-2024, 06:17 PM
Same tbh. I never took either coward off ignore and don't plan on it

Sure, bud. :lol

Imagine calling someone a coward when you bloviated about coming to town yrs ago during November and you were going to come "see me" and then the bullshit concocted story of yours comes to fruition and all your boyfriends here push said make believe bullshit story of yours. Bro, go fellate your boyfriends some more because they're the only ones buying your bullshit. :lmao

At the end of the day, IDC to get in a fight with any of you bitch males. If any of yall decide to go insane and show up where I am, then expect the worse and I bet you won't be around to post a thread about it after all is said and done. :tu

Yee Fucking Haw!

koriwhat
11-12-2024, 06:18 PM
You just talked to me the day after Trump made President again. Promised you'd never talk to me again.

jejejeje!!!

The dude has no one on ignore. He only has his lies and he lies a lot.

ChumpDumper
11-12-2024, 06:40 PM
Sure, bud. :lol

Imagine calling someone a coward when you bloviated about coming to town yrs ago during November and you were going to come "see me" and then the bullshit concocted story of yours comes to fruition and all your boyfriends here push said make believe bullshit story of yours. Bro, go fellate your boyfriends some more because they're the only ones buying your bullshit. :lmao

At the end of the day, IDC to get in a fight with any of you bitch males. If any of yall decide to go insane and show up where I am, then expect the worse and I bet you won't be around to post a thread about it after all is said and done. :tu

Yee Fucking Haw!

*worst

koriwhat
11-12-2024, 06:41 PM
I seriously don't care to read one iota coming from your bitch ass, CumDummy. Again, do the world a favor and kill yourself already! :tu

ChumpDumper
11-12-2024, 07:05 PM
I seriously don't care to read one iota coming from your bitch ass, CumDummy. Again, do the world a favor and kill yourself already! :tu

:lol you can't stop posting about me

FrostKing
11-12-2024, 11:16 PM
Ultimately we are all Western Men

We lost yesterday, you lost today. Is your goal Liberalism or our Civilization? I want our Civ to win

GAustex
11-12-2024, 11:20 PM
It was about this time 1 week ago it started to become clear the avalanche was gonna happen.

Happy 1 week anniversary.

FrostKing
11-13-2024, 12:20 AM
:lol you can't stop posting about me
You have handled yourself well after the loss. Most the fellas have. You'll regroup like we did. Na Zdrowie!

ChumpDumper
11-13-2024, 12:26 AM
Honestly we probably just have to wait for you guys to crash the economy again.

FrostKing
11-13-2024, 03:39 AM
Honestly we probably just have to wait for you guys to crash the economy again.
Wait is a great term. Men now work to bring back the good days.

FrostKing
11-13-2024, 03:47 AM
https://youtu.be/ogwqP_liXcE?si=Ms6--kcTGdJwM7UH

ChumpDumper
11-13-2024, 04:37 AM
Wait is a great term. Men now work to bring back the good days.

Meaning what?

You guys are pretty vague about what you really want.

Blake
11-13-2024, 12:15 PM
Wait is a great term. Men now work to bring back the good days.

Lol pining over "the good ol days"

ChumpDumper
11-13-2024, 12:16 PM
Lol pining over "the good ol days"

No wonder Trump loves all these Apartheid babies.

Spurs Homer
11-13-2024, 01:20 PM
Why are all you nazis still angry?

You won and usa democracy is now in the hands of your hitler-
unfortunately for you kunts...

you have been programmed to hate everyone and everything 24/7 for 10 years in a row - at least - probably more....


and now that you have your hitler leading the new usa nazi regime - you are still whining and bitching and hating on other peoples


why?

Guess what....today,tomorrow,next week... you have to wake up every day and face yourself. Your life. your country.

I hope your non stop hatred finds an outlet.

FrostKing
11-13-2024, 03:30 PM
Why are all you nazis still angry?

You won and usa democracy is now in the hands of your hitler-
unfortunately for you kunts...

you have been programmed to hate everyone and everything 24/7 for 10 years in a row - at least - probably more....


and now that you have your hitler leading the new usa nazi regime - you are still whining and bitching and hating on other peoples


why?

Guess what....today,tomorrow,next week... you have to wake up every day and face yourself. Your life. your country.

I hope your non stop hatred finds an outlet.
Nazis?

Amigo you're tone deaf. Even if you feel this is wrong/hateful. Get a new catch phrase

koriwhat
11-13-2024, 03:44 PM
Why are all you nazis still angry?

Until we rid the world of fuckface mentally ill retard, you Spurs Homer, the world can't truly be at peace. We need to eradicate your kind. You're fucking worthless and so are those just like you.

Keep calling us all nazis you bitch ass loser! :tu

Too bad you didn't off yourself last Tuesday night.

SnakeBoy
11-13-2024, 04:11 PM
We just need to reeducate them


...in camps

ChumpDumper
11-13-2024, 04:26 PM
Concentration camp and mass murder talk already.

You guys are ahead of schedule.

dbestpro
11-13-2024, 04:43 PM
From a historical perspective, The Nazi party was short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, which means "National Socialist German Workers' Party". This was a socialist party that was mostly agnostic or atheist. You might be able to compare the GOP with folks from the Spanish Inquisition or some other religious witch-hunt but the word Nazi seems to belong to the party that supports socialism the most.

Spurs Homer
11-13-2024, 04:44 PM
Nazis elected a nazi and you won…

why you still hatin?

oh yeah- that is what you carry inside you 24/7….


so you are fucked…you can never be rid of that hate…get rid of me…sure…get rid of anyone who looks like me sure…but there will be more like me…

what then?

you are cursed with non stop hatred…

ChumpDumper
11-13-2024, 05:02 PM
From a historical perspective, The Nazi party was short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, which means "National Socialist German Workers' Party". This was a socialist party that was mostly agnostic or atheist. You might be able to compare the GOP with folks from the Spanish Inquisition or some other religious witch-hunt but the word Nazi seems to belong to the party that supports socialism the most.Right, North Korea is a democratic republic. It's right there in the name!

Thread
11-13-2024, 09:53 PM
Nazis elected a nazi and you won…

why you still hatin?

oh yeah- that is what you carry inside you 24/7….


so you are fucked…you can never be rid of that hate…get rid of me…sure…get rid of anyone who looks like me sure…but there will be more like me…

what then?

you are cursed with non stop hatred…

...that's how Trump made President, again.

SnakeBoy
11-13-2024, 09:54 PM
Dems are too far left says Progressive Policy Institute


Bernie Sanders Screams, 'More Cowbell!'
Neel Brown

As Americans voted decisively for a candidate who explicitly rejects nearly everything that Bernie Sanders advocates, Vermont’s senior senator insists that the Democratic Party just wasn’t liberal enough. The mindset of the far left seems to be that the working class just needs more of what they just voted against. For Bernie, the answer is always, “more cowbell.”

Four years ago, the United States elected “Scranton Joe,” a pragmatic with a long record of achievement in the Senate and the Obama administration attained through compromise and common sense. On economic issues, Joe Biden presented himself as a pro-energy, pro-growth, pro-worker – old-school Democrat. He made a point of eschewing the left’s “defund the police” fever and ended his speeches by saying, “May God bless our troops.” Americans were yearning for what he offered and elected him as a serious and pragmatic alternative to a chaotic Trump.

Then came the Elizabeth Warren camp. From day one, the Biden administration was flooded with operatives from the Bernie/Liz left wing of the Democratic Party. What ensued was an overt shift from Scranton Joe’s campaign promises to policies for and by the liberal elite. Like those annoying clothing labels that are itchy and unnecessary, the Sanders/Warren brand was sewn into nearly every policy that came out of the White House.

On energy issues, Biden delivered on his campaign promise for an all-of-the-above energy strategy. He passed the boldest and most comprehensive green energy investment in U.S. history while governing over record domestic energy production that literally saved Europe following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Instead of championing Biden’s successes, the far left hatched a plan to end future build-outs of liquified natural gas facilities. This policy sent the wrong message to our allies around the world, and was a betrayal of the tens of thousands of energy workers in Pennsylvania. Additionally, this policy likely increased global carbon emissions by prolonging coal burning and increasing demand for LNG from dirtier sources. This pandering to the left crippled the Harris campaign in the must-win state of Pennsylvania.

The massive drive for student debt relief is another example of how the left wing of the party is out of touch with working-class Americans. By sending out over $400 billion dollars to college graduates, the non-college, working-class Americans received a clear message: “Democrats believe that contributions to society by the college educated are more important than mine.”

As inflation eroded their spending power, these workers didn’t get tens of thousands of dollars, but they watched other, many fewer, and more privileged Americans cash those checks. The worst part of this policy is that most recipients of this relief still have debts, and there was no reform of the American higher education system to lower future tuition rates. Instead, it provided incentives for universities to raise tuition even higher – even though the cost of higher education has far outpaced overall inflation for a generation.

The broad anti-business rhetoric from the Bernie/Warren camp is out of step with the everyday needs and struggles of Americans. There are a host of long-standing “paychecks and pocketbooks” issues that the Federal Trade Commission and U.S. Department of Justice could have addressed during the Biden administration. These include serious competition problems in some food and agriculture and healthcare markets that drive up prices for consumers – often forcing them to make decisions about what bills to pay, or not. Biden’s FTC and DOJ instead focused enormous, limited public resources on the tech companies where any competition problems are far more remotely connected to consumers. Perversely, working-class Americans don’t have a litany of complaints about tech companies, and the problems that the FTC and DOJ pursued have very little effect on household budgets.

Finally, Biden’s paralysis on the border and immigration policy was a critical part of Kamala Harris’ defeat this year. At the eleventh hour, as the campaign for president was already underway, they finally got serious about an immigration reform bill. It was too late. The far left’s unbending refusal to even acknowledge the crisis at the border crippled any chances of meaningful legislation when it could have made a difference. The end result of the left’s steadfast denialism of the problem is likely to be a Trump administration policy that is draconian and un-American.

Bernie Sanders is right about one thing: The Democratic Party has abandoned the working class. But not in the ways that he thinks. The party has bent to the pressure from the most ideological activists while simultaneously failing to take credit for the huge successes achieved in the center of the political spectrum. The moralistic preaching from the far left on what the working class needs, even while those voters overtly reject it, is akin to the incessant ringing of the cowbell when we’ve already had enough.

We must re-center the Democratic Party. We must listen to Americans and fashion policies that reflect an understanding of what they need and want. We cannot bend further to the left’s delusional insistence that the working class “just don’t know what’s best for them.”

hater
11-13-2024, 10:13 PM
Concentration camp and mass murder talk already.

You guys are ahead of schedule.

To do list:
Genocide: check ✅ - the democrats

Blake
11-13-2024, 10:22 PM
To do list:
Genocide: check ✅ - the democrats

Genocide bad, Russia killing Ukrainians good.

You guys can't make up your mind except: Trump good

ChumpDumper
11-14-2024, 02:21 AM
To do list:
Genocide: check ✅ - the democrats
You fucking love genocide dude.

HemisfairArena
11-14-2024, 04:30 AM
You fucking love genocide dude.


How many major wars going on under Trump and how many under Biden?,,,,,you democrats love genocide,,,,

Thread
11-14-2024, 04:49 AM
Genocide bad, Russia killing Ukrainians good.

You guys can't make up your mind except: Trump good

It's Russian dirt. Always has been, Blake.

Winehole23
11-14-2024, 12:41 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcXBkm7W8AE_oG0?format=png&name=900x900

ChumpDumper
11-14-2024, 12:43 PM
How many major wars going on under Trump and how many under Biden?,,,,,you democrats love genocide,,,,

:lol now Biden is responsible for wars in other countries?

The only way genocide stops under Trump is because there's no one left to kill.

Winehole23
11-14-2024, 12:45 PM
Pete Hegseth has already said he's excited about the IDF "stacking up bodies" in Gaza, seems he's even more excited about their removal. The crusader tattoos and mottos are sincere.

SnakeBoy
11-14-2024, 04:41 PM
1857075012093812790

ChumpDumper
11-14-2024, 05:31 PM
[laughing emoji] snacks afraid of a little haka

Blake
11-14-2024, 07:19 PM
1857075012093812790

And back in the states:

https://media.tenor.com/SXpOmFRsfhQAAAAM/crazy-guilfoyle.gif

SnakeBoy
11-14-2024, 09:07 PM
Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) has filed for reelection in 2026, setting the stage to once again become a key anti-Trump force.

The 84-year-old filed a statement of candidacy Thursday with the Federal Election Commission after winning a 20th term last week.

Winehole23
11-14-2024, 11:02 PM
Wow

Trump may soon follow in Pelosi's footsteps in deep gerontocracy.

In 2028 Trump will be going on 84 years old.

Spurs Homer
11-14-2024, 11:17 PM
How long before trump walks out to address the nation…fully naked with his disgusting fat body repulsing sane people…

as his cult refuses to admit he has no clothes?

Winehole23
11-15-2024, 09:07 AM
makes you wonder


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcSjUoRXYAApQEq?format=jpg&name=900x900

Winehole23
11-15-2024, 09:17 AM
amazing how much Biden's economy has improved -- and gotten worse --in just ten days


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcWuUvCXkAEelxO?format=jpg&name=small

Winehole23
11-15-2024, 09:29 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcbesbTWAAIiZSm?format=jpg&name=small

Thread
11-15-2024, 12:03 PM
How long before trump walks out to address the nation…fully naked with his disgusting fat body repulsing sane people…

as his cult refuses to admit he has no clothes?

Homer fantasizing.

Thread
11-15-2024, 12:07 PM
makes you wonder

...because Trump FINALLY rolled over on the mail-in ballot idea. Not out loud a course, but thru state emissaries. They was goin' door-to-door here since September 1st. They were on the street corners here straightening out his signs, cleaning them daily. They was all business.

Spurs Homer
11-15-2024, 01:34 PM
the ONLY sane trump...



https://youtu.be/TTf-p7g-G3U?si=bdRVup82jkw73OTL

GAustex
11-15-2024, 07:18 PM
So much winning
And OMB barely started

koriwhat
11-15-2024, 10:46 PM
makes you wonder

Makes me wonder why you follow a grifting rino like billy boy.

Winehole23
11-16-2024, 12:06 AM
Makes me wonder why you follow a grifting rino like billy boy.
who?

SnakeBoy
12-03-2024, 08:53 PM
Are progressive groups sinking Democrats' electoral chances?
https://www.vox.com/politics/388752/democrats-groups-jentleson-favreau-klein-yglesias


What ails the Democratic Party? Since Kamala Harris’s defeat, several Democrats and center-left commentators have pointed the finger at one culprit: “the groups.”

Specifically, they claim, progressive interest and activist groups have both moved too far left and grown far too influential in the Democratic coalition, pushing the party to adopt stances out of step with the median voter on a range of different issues. This, they say, has backfired electorally and will ultimately hurt the people the groups claim to want to help.

Yep, Dems are just too far left. Need to move to the right of Joe Biden :lol

Winehole23
12-06-2024, 03:18 PM
"four decade long strong dollar policy" is a new excuse, but it sounds like a plausible factor of inequality.




Turning first to the US, I think many people expected the incumbent Democrats to be returned to the White House given the relatively low unemployment rate, solid GDP growth, and high stock prices.

But as noted by David Smick, director of a documentary titled “America’s Burning” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIYg0G5XcWo) that was recently released in the US, the DJIA has risen 5,000% in the 43 years since 1980, but the real (median) wages of ordinary Americans have increased by only 15%. Since this is a median value, it means that fully half of all Americans have seen their real wages rise by less than 15% in the last 43 years.

What is happening in the stock market may not affect the living standards of the people directly, but inflation-adjusted housing prices, which have a direct impact on household finances, have soared 96.6% (Figure 1). The fact that the real wages of the ordinary Americans seeking to buy these houses have risen by only just over 15% makes it clear in many senses that their standard of living has declined. It should not be surprising that they are so unhappy with the current system.


Figure 1: Real housing prices and real wages in the US
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/00-Trump.png
Trump, Tariffs, and Exchange Rates: The Message of Elections in the US and Japan | Institute for New Economic Thinking (https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/trump-tariffs-and-exchange-rates-the-message-of-elections-in-the-us-and-japan)

Winehole23
12-06-2024, 03:48 PM
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/00-Trump-3.png

Winehole23
12-06-2024, 03:49 PM
In short, the US has turned a blind eye to the strong dollar and the resultant 41 trillion dollars worth of outflows of income from its manufacturing and agriculture sectors for more than 40 years, and that is most likely why—despite experiencing the same globalization trend as countries like Japan and Germany—the US has seen social divisions widen to this extent.

SnakeBoy
12-06-2024, 08:49 PM
1864904231624364345

baseline bum
12-06-2024, 10:25 PM
Are progressive groups sinking Democrats' electoral chances?
https://www.vox.com/politics/388752/democrats-groups-jentleson-favreau-klein-yglesias



Yep, Dems are just too far left. Need to move to the right of Joe Biden :lol

They're going to nominate Liz Cheney in 2028 aren't they? Fucking Jeffries making an appearance with her after blowing the election thanks in at least a small part to campaigning with her tired ass.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UewhnHTZUu0

Thread
12-07-2024, 12:34 AM
1864904231624364345

Took him a month to come out of hiding.

Him mad.

HemisfairArena
12-07-2024, 01:22 AM
They're going to nominate Liz Cheney in 2028 aren't they? Fucking Jeffries making an appearance with her after blowing the election thanks in at least a small part to campaigning with her tired ass.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UewhnHTZUu0

No chance. Democrats learned their lesson running women and wont do it again until AOC after a few elections. If they did run a woman,,,,it would definitely be Whitmer.

baseline bum
12-07-2024, 01:28 AM
No chance. Democrats learned their lesson running women and wont do it again until AOC after a few elections. If they did run a woman,,,,it would definitely be Whitmer.

Was half joking, but honestly half not

HemisfairArena
12-07-2024, 01:32 AM
Was half joking, but honestly half not

I think youre right actually that there will be a some democrat elites that will want her because how the fuck did she end up on a stage with Kamala,,,,no way that was Kamala's decision,,,,Kamala doesnt make decisions,,,she doesnt know how,,,,but youre also right that she hurt them more than helped them,,,,she's toxic as fuck and so was her father.

baseline bum
12-07-2024, 01:37 AM
I think youre right actually that there will be a some democrat elites that will want her because how the fuck did she end up on a stage with Kamala,,,,no way that was Kamala's decision,,,,Kamala doesnt make decisions,,,she doesnt know how,,,,but youre also right that she hurt them more than helped them,,,,she's toxic as fuck and so was her father.

It was Kamala's decision. She's a right wing neolib who was taking the advice of her dickhead brother in law who is a Senior VP of Uber that she needed to appeal to the corporations and the political establishment instead of the people pissed off about grocery prices and other assorted price gouging in this nation.

HemisfairArena
12-07-2024, 01:44 AM
It was Kamala's decision. She's a right wing neolib who was taking the advice of her dickhead brother in law who is a Senior VP of Uber that she needed to appeal to the corporations and the political establishment instead of the people pissed off about grocery prices and other assorted price gouging in this nation.

No way is she right wing but thats for another discussion,,,,but there you go, bummer,,,,,her brother in law made the decision for her. She didnt think and reason she wanted Liz Cheney,,,,someone told her she wanted Liz Cheney,,,,again,,,,Kamala doesnt make decisions,,,that why she sucked ass in 2020 in the democrat primaries,,,,ask her a question and she'll gurgle out some bullshit way off point and make throw in a platitude or two,,,

Thread
12-07-2024, 02:54 PM
It was Kamala's decision. She's a right wing neolib who was taking the advice of her dickhead brother in law who is a Senior VP of Uber that she needed to appeal to the corporations and the political establishment instead of the people pissed off about grocery prices and other assorted price gouging in this nation.

..."they've" never gotten over giving us those fat checks back in the early days of COVID. So, they've been punishing us ever since.

koriwhat
12-07-2024, 03:45 PM
Took him a month to come out of hiding.

Him mad.

taking him longer to come out of the closet though. :lmao

Dirks_Finale
12-07-2024, 07:14 PM
It was Kamala's decision. She's a right wing neolib who was taking the advice of her dickhead brother in law who is a Senior VP of Uber that she needed to appeal to the corporations and the political establishment instead of the people pissed off about grocery prices and other assorted price gouging in this nation.

Who's decision was it for her to say she wouldn't do anything different from sleepy Joe?

Thread
12-09-2024, 11:28 AM
Who's decision was it for her to say she wouldn't do anything different from sleepy Joe?

The demarcation point. And she was immediately alarmed by the query (she knew), but, barged thru that alarm nonetheless and shit the bed, on the spot.

Winehole23
12-09-2024, 07:59 PM
Who's decision was it for her to say she wouldn't do anything different from sleepy Joe?Harris's, ultimately.

Dumb decision.

I think everyone paying attention unclenched a little when Biden stepped aside.

SnakeBoy
12-09-2024, 08:20 PM
They're going to nominate Liz Cheney in 2028 aren't they? Fucking Jeffries making an appearance with her after blowing the election thanks in at least a small part to campaigning with her tired ass.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UewhnHTZUu0

That would be awesome

Hillary/ Liz 2028 would be the ultimate dream ticket

baseline bum
12-09-2024, 09:24 PM
That would be awesome

Hillary/ Liz 2028 would be the ultimate dream ticket

No it'll be Jeffries/Cheney as the change ticket. Or Cheney/Jeffries.

Winehole23
12-11-2024, 08:41 AM
Jaime Galbreath



polls do establish (https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/exit-polls-2024-election/) that a large majority of voters gave Bidenomics a low grade. A sense of failure weighs on Bernstein and his colleagues, despite their good intentions and best efforts. They were repudiated—so say the polls—and for the sake of future policy battles, it is worthwhile to try to understand why.

It is no help to argue, as Paul Krugman did (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/30/opinion/krugman-glorious-economy-harris.html), that voters are not competent to judge their own interests and well-being. Krugman faults the voters, in effect, for failing to accept the superior wisdom of a columnist at The New York Times. But it is a precept of democracy (and of free market economics) that voters (and consumers) do know their interests. To refuse this precept is to deny the point of democracy, in which case there is no good reason to go on having elections. Or markets, either.

If voters are unhappy with the good readings on standard indicators—unemployment, the monthly inflation rate, economic growth—it must be because those indicators no longer connect to their sense of well-being. I have written on this (https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bidenomics-criticism-economy-election/) before. In particular, low unemployment rates may reflect widespread disaffection with bad jobs; a low inflation rate does not reverse past price increases; and the incomes from growth may flow to profits and capital gains. These indicators are not useless—if they were bad, the situation would be even worse—but a good showing on them is insufficient.

What did happen under Biden was a decline in real incomes (https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N)—in household purchasing power. Prices had risen sharply in 2021–22, and even though the inflation rate was transient—contrary to screams from economists—the change in price levels was not. Wages struggled (https://www.ineteconomics.org/uploads/papers/WP_221-Ferguson-and-Storm-Second-Coming-final-May-17.pdf) to catch up. Many people living on savings and pensions never did. While the White House moved quickly to bring down gas prices with oil sales from the Strategic Reserve, it did little to stop firms from padding their margins (https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/sellers-inflation-diagnosis-accepted-but-old-interest-rate-policies-remain-by-isabella-m-weber-2023-07). Profits surged, as did rents (https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUSR0000SEHA), land prices, and the stock market (https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DJIA). The Biden economists had overlooked a fundamental fact, which is that the ultimate benefit of any “stimulative” policy flows to those with market power—to land and to capital—regardless of how it may be distributed at first.
Why Bidenomics Was Such a Bust | The Nation (https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bidenomics-failure-inflation-voters/)

Winehole23
12-11-2024, 08:42 AM
Pressure from voices like Summers led to an early curtailment of direct Covid relief, which fell just as prices rose. It is a shocking fact that while during Covid child poverty rates and food insecurity declined, those rates returned to pre-Covid levels (https://www.cbpp.org/research/poverty-and-inequality/expiration-of-pandemic-relief-led-to-record-increases-in-poverty) when the benefits ended. Should we really be surprised that the affected families, having briefly tasted a better life for their children, were unhappy?

Winehole23
02-06-2025, 08:27 AM
Hubert Horan, who plumbs the Tony West/Kamala Harris relationship in this article, seems to have a spade ready for the Dems

Trump is probably going to criminalize his political opposition, so expect to see fewer Dems with a national profile in 2026 and 2028


West’s successful sale of the Democratic Party to oligopoly interests has left it in total disarray and raises critical questions going future. Since Hilary Clinton’s loss in 2016 it has been openly questioned whether the Democratic Party leadership could attract support outside elite and PMC groups. It was widely understood that making a connection with non-elite groups was key to Trump’s rise. By making West and fundraising from billionaires the centerpiece of her campaign, Harris powerfully signaled that she had nothing of substance to say to non-elite non-PMC groups, and did not see maintaining the support of non-elite Democratic factions as important to the election. One can certainly argue that Trump might not produce the level of tangible benefits these voters might be hoping for, but Trump (via positions on immigration, household inflation impacts, attacks on elite claims, etc.) had strongly positioned himself as the candidate who cared the most about their problems. The Harris campaign simply conceded that huge advantage to Trump and never gave any indication it was concerned that advantage might have an impact on election results.


The Harris-West decision to ignore elite/non-elite issues and center the campaign on fundraising also helped ensure that it would be impossible for the national Democratic Party to recover from a Trump victory and establish any meaningful opposition to Trump policies. Some billionaire/corporate donors might have had some preference for a Democratic win, believing that (as with Obama) a this would neutralize opposition to pro-oligarchic policies from the left and offered more stability than a Trump victory. But the interest of the donors who contributed $1.1 billion to Harris was always purely transactional and (as events have proven) they rapidly switched their allegiance to Trump. So the national Democrats have absolutely no one that can serve as a plausible opponent to any Trump policies, the Party’s historic pro-working class branding has been destroyed, and the Party totally lacks the money and infrastructure needed to move forward.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/02/hubert-horan-can-uber-ever-deliver-part-thirty-four-tony-wests-calamitous-legacy-at-uber-and-with-the-kamala-harris-campaign.html

SnakeBoy
03-06-2025, 05:03 PM
They're going to nominate Liz Cheney in 2028 aren't they? Fucking Jeffries making an appearance with her after blowing the election thanks in at least a small part to campaigning with her tired ass.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UewhnHTZUu0

I guess the Dem response to Trump's speech signals where the party is going. A CIA agent touting Reagan :lol

Looks like 2028 choice will basically be dubya vs trump

baseline bum
03-06-2025, 06:47 PM
I guess the Dem response to Trump's speech signals where the party is going. A CIA agent touting Reagan :lol

Looks like 2028 choice will basically be dubya vs trump

There will be no 2028 election anyways.

Thread
03-06-2025, 11:24 PM
There will be no 2028 election anyways.

How bout in 2026?

SnakeBoy
03-23-2025, 06:16 PM
Bernie cuck trying again is the best Dems have come up with so far

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1200,h_600,c_fill,f_jpg,q_auto:good,fl_progressi ve:steep,g_auto/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa368aa3 1-3e7b-43c6-a804-906849c8ea2e_1024x683.jpeg

SnakeBoy
03-24-2025, 12:38 PM
and it's all fake...

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Winehole23
03-24-2025, 01:25 PM
He scurred

ChumpDumper
03-24-2025, 03:08 PM
and it's all fake...

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How many were 2000 mules?

ph:lolne data

accuracy c:lolnfidence: n:lolrmal

Thread
03-24-2025, 03:18 PM
Too late...

"I'm President...and their not."

SnakeBoy
03-25-2025, 09:47 PM
Behind the Curtain: Dems' dark, deep hole
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/24/democrats-popularity-crisis-trump-elections

SnakeBoy
03-25-2025, 09:49 PM
Top Democrats tell us their party is in its deepest hole in nearly 50 years — and they fear things could actually get worse:

The party has its lowest favorability ever.

No popular national leader to help improve it.

Insufficient numbers to stop most legislation in Congress.

A durable minority on the Supreme Court.

Dwindling influence over the media ecosystem, with right-leaning podcasters and social media accounts ascendant.

Young voters are growing dramatically more conservative.

A bad 2026 map for Senate races.

Democratic Senate retirements could make it harder for the party to flip the House, with members tempted by statewide races.

There are only three House Republicans in districts former Vice President Harris won in 2024, a dim sign for a Democratic surge. There were 23 eight years ago in seats Hillary Clinton won.

And, thanks to the number of people fleeing blue states, the math for a Dem to win the presidency will just get harder in 2030.

ChumpDumper
03-25-2025, 09:53 PM
:lol trying to distract from your Whiskileaks meltdown