Game Thread: Spurs (15-13) @ 76ers (9-17) 12/23/2024 6 PM CST 2 AM RIGA

[100%duncan]

Tre :lol

[scott]

This lady ref is great. Let’s get her for every game. Clearly grew up a Spurs fan.

[td4mvp2k]

window here take advantage ffs

[baseline bum]

How did Chris Paul of all people forget how to throw a post entry?

[cutewizard]

Wemby Durant

[cutewizard]

Champ

[timtonymanu]

Champ and Keldon should switch contracts. Its not even fair to Julian.

[scott]

Julian woke up. Thank god.

[cutewizard]

Here it comes haha

[ace3g]

Exchanging 3s won't cut it.

[Leetonidas]

Fucking finally

[100%duncan]

Empty calories is someone like Derozan who can score but doesn’t impact winning. Keldon is even worse than Forbes. And that says a lot.

Youre right

[CGD]

Is that smoke show Aubrey Plaza in the front row? Sure looks like her

[cutewizard]

Keep Champ

[100%duncan]

This lady ref is great. Let’s get her for every game. Clearly grew up a Spurs fan.

:lmao

[Frenchfred]

I guess that I'm on board for Vassel for Fox and we should trade Keldon and Collins to go after a SF who can shoot threes and defend. I would love a PF/center with an inside game.

[Spurs Brazil]

Champagnie!!!

[Spurs Homer]

Still time to roll up the sleeves…fight hard… grit your teeth…focus…

and keep blowing that whistle in the spurs favor- lady ref!

[Spurs Homer]

Fuck vassell

PASS THE FUCKIN BALL!

[cutewizard]

Keldon didn't work on his ball handling?

[scott]

Winnable game. Let’s go.

[scott]

Please ship Keldon off to Siberia, tbh

[cutewizard]

Lead

[cutewizard]

Fuc

[Tyronn Lue]

Champagnie!!!

[cutewizard]

Champ hero here

[objective]

Castle back in the doghouse for Mitch?

[SpursFan86]

Champagnie bailing us out

[timtonymanu]

Remember that time when Vassell and Keldon were our big 2 ? Ugly times

[cutewizard]

Spurs cannot hit point blank

Horrifying

[scott]

Castle back in the doghouse for Mitch?

No kidding

[Spurs Brazil]

Champagnie again!

[cutewizard]

Champ is our new Mario Elie tbh

[Mal]

Gotta give to Mitch Johnson, he is not afraid of trying different lineups, looking for a spark

[Spurs Homer]

Id put castle in and sit vassell…

[Thomas82]

Did Wemby not get credit for a 9th block?

[td4mvp2k]

dont let maxey get the ball ffs

[cutewizard]

We need a Paul George scorer tbh

Fox or Trae ????

[John B]

CP3 humping after those :lol

[objective]

Gotta give to Mitch Johnson, he is not afraid of trying different lineups, looking for a spark

It's the ABC strategy

Anybody But Castle

[Tyronn Lue]

Did Wemby not get credit for a 9th block?
I've seen that happen twice in the same game a month or so ago.

[cutewizard]

Mamu could have helped here

[baseline bum]

Remember that time when Vassell and Keldon were our big 2 ? Ugly times

Keldon is still a big 2 tbh

[100%duncan]

is Wemby just gassed this 2nd half tbh? Tf

[cutewizard]

Close game but we played awfully

[CGD]

Keldon and Tre are not long for this team me thinks.

[timtonymanu]

Devin is trash

[scott]

Devin’s tunnel vision cost us there. Fuck man, learn to pass Dev.

[td4mvp2k]

vassell GTFO

[LeBowen]

I can't believe this shit.

[LakerHater]

Lazy ass pass

[timtonymanu]

Champ stupid play there though

[cutewizard]

Fuck

[KDKSpurs24]

Get Vassell out of the fkin game!! Worst player on the court right now!!

[scott]

Chris Paul is a real son of a bitch man.

Champ… appreciate the effort, but you gotta let that one go man.

[Spurs Homer]

Fuckin kunt champagnie

casual attitude

[SpursFan86]

Lmfao. Just don’t deserve to win this game.

[Leetonidas]

Champagnie you fuckin idiot

[Mal]

My god Champ..

[cutewizard]

Vassell useless

[scott]

Champ ruining a great game with some terrible clutch play

[Tyronn Lue]

18 turnovers. Hard to win on the road like that.

[Spurs Homer]

Champagnie looks like he is high…and throws passes away…gets ball stolen

[objective]

This team is just full of idiots from the coach on down

[SPURt]

Self inflicted wounds… mercy

[timtonymanu]

Fuck back to the worst place to be: 11th - 12th seed

[baseline bum]

God damn it Champagnie

[Thomas82]

Well, that's game......thanks a lot Champagnie!!

[Leetonidas]

God dammit fuck this team full of low IQ scrubs ass morons

[itzsoweezee]

Champ literally throwing the game away holy shit

[CGD]

Damn, Champ fucked us twice

[YoungbuckMurray]

2 brain dead plays by champagne, fucking awful

[timtonymanu]

Champ just crapped on that good game he had with two lazy plays. Also why was castle not in?

[skin27]

2 stupid turnovers by champaigne

[daslicer]

Champagne is dumbass of the game. He threw this game away.

[SupremeGuy]

Talk about fucking themselves.

[spursparker9]

I say it is not too late to tank for flagg now

[cutewizard]

We deserved to lose

Hope they learn a lot from this

[ace3g]

How do you let Yabusele sneak up on you, lol

[td4mvp2k]

of course they let maxey get the ball

[Spurs Brazil]

Champagnie and Vassell killed us in the end. Unacceptable plays

[tonight...you]

Champ straight lost the game

[LakerHater]

Our offense sux, everyone stands around & watches chris paul dribble & dribble & dribble & dribble

[100%duncan]

Champ singlehandedly lost this game. Fitting since he got us back in :lmao

[SpursFan86]

Hard to get too mad at Champagnie because we wouldn’t have even come back in the first place if it weren’t for him, but holy shit man. Back to back awful turnovers just cost us the game.

[LeBowen]

Deserved loss, they should be forced to walk to NY.

[ginobilized]

Champagne letting us down

[baseline bum]

Can we please trade Vassell the fuck away and get a real shooting guard

[KDKSpurs24]

Champagnie lost us the game!!

[Leetonidas]

Spurs deserve to lose, just some idiotic low IQ shit to end the game

Terrible shot by Vassell
Terrible shot by Victor
Terrible pass by Champagnie
Another terrible turnover by Champagnie

[bbarry]

That is what we get out of a timeout??

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Champenny is one dumb fucking asshole

[John B]

Champagnie caught sleeping in the noodle house

[cutewizard]

Outstanding video material for learning tbh

Omg

[Kawhi Duncan]

We have some really low IQ ppl on this team

[Degoat]

Way cost the team the game Julian

[sananspursfan21]

Two great opportunities ruined by turnovers. Wow. They turned it up a bit in the 4th, but this is an Embiidless team…

[itzsoweezee]

Everyone in the building knew maxey was shooting that three. Force him to drive. There’s a guy who’s got 9 blocked shots behind you, dumbass.

So many low iq plays is just disgusting

[YoungbuckMurray]

Get that idiot off the court

[objective]

I've seen enough, Mitch can't be the coach next year, he's just a Boylen

You can't forget your 2nd best performer the entire 4th quarter like that

Get him out of here

[Rosewood]

Champ lost that game. Losing to Sixers without Embiid :lol

[Thomas82]

I've seen that happen twice in the same game a month or so ago.

Yeah, I see ESPN.com still has him at 8.

[cutewizard]

Let us give credit to Sixers who fought well

[DesignatedT]

Castle should have played in the fourth. Paul can’t handle the ball every single possession without getting exhausted and Vassell runs away from the ball. Dumb.

[Kawhi Duncan]

Wemby soft as fuck... How do u give up that rebound... He is too tall to be such a horrible rebounder... Dude really has no fundamentals and doesn't fight for shit down low

[scott]

Its not often that a player single handedly loses a game… but Champ pulled it off tonight

[sananspursfan21]

They’re not gonna win every close game, but this was dumb play after dumb play.

[cutewizard]

Ugly loss

[ginobilized]

Scoring and toughness are what I want to see in any player additions

[barakz21]

Ugh. As mad as I am at Champ, I gotta remind myself that he was instrumental in helping bring them back. Still, that was terrible.

[Frenchfred]

I've seen enough, Mitch can't be the coach next year, he's just a Boylen

You can't forget your 2nd best performer the entire 4th quarter like that

Get him out of here

I agree, Castle is the one who put us back into the game, why on earth would you not play him in the 4th?

[itzsoweezee]

Wemby soft as fuck... How do u give up that rebound... He is too tall to be such a horrible rebounder... Dude really has no fundamentals and doesn't fight for shit down low

You dumb fuck, watch the play again

[Spurs Homer]

Champagnie has done this shit all season…

someone needs to slap the fuck out of him and tell him this lazy shit will not be tolerated…get your head in the game and stop this “i dont give a fuck attitude”

[spursparker9]

Castle single-handedly kept the Spurs in the game during 3rd Q.

Mitch should have ride on his momentum in the 4th Q.

[Obstructed_View]

Castle played great to get the Spurs back in the game, and Vassell and Champanie are handling the ball in crunch time. Might as well have half brain coaching the team.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Julian clearly fucked up in end but spurs wouldn’t be in it if it wasn’t for his shooting at the end. But that’s what you get for a player you’re paying 4 mil or whatever it is. Still on a great contract but yeah dudes an idiot lmao.

[Raven]

damn that was a 2023 spurs kind of finale...

[crc2120]

Spurs had momentum up 1 until that dumbass pass by Champagnie. That TO led to a Maxey and-1 and then a Maxey 3 smh…

[DesignatedT]

13 minutes for Castle has got to change. Dude is the second best player on the team.

[John B]

Those 2 turnovers by Champ was costly

[Frenchfred]

Wemby soft as fuck... How do u give up that rebound... He is too tall to be such a horrible rebounder... Dude really has no fundamentals and doesn't fight for shit down low

He got 9 rebounds, we could expect more from him but this is not the reason we lost tonight though.

[TVI]

Dumb mistakes cost them the game, but the way the Sixers were shooting in that 3rd quarter, they could've packed it in. They fought back into the game.

That bad pass from Champ to CP3 when they had the lead and the ball really hurt, but they wouldn't have even been in the game without his shooting.

[LeBowen]

It's just unbelievable how horrible our passing is. We had 3 turnovers on post entry passes. Several on easy passes and we always fuck up bringing the ball up when it matters.

Mitch is making a lot of solid decisions, but Tre serves no purpose and is a negative in this role.
Castle finally had a good game, abused them on drives and didn't close it out.
Nothing needs to be said about Keldon, he needs to go.
Devin has very low IQ, we were up and then he shoots a contested stepback 3 with like 18 on the clock. He absolutely needs to be available in any trade.
Champ fucked up badly and lost us the game, bu he kept us in it. Needs to start over Barnes, imo. Barnes is just too passive.

[John B]

Castle should’ve been on Maxey tbh

[Mugen]

Jesus christ Champ :lol

Can't wait until this team gets more shooters, man.

[Pauleta14]

Adding 2 high IQ players to a low IQ team doesn't make it a higher IQ team.

Just a low IQ team +2 high ones.

And the fact that he's on a cheap deal isn't a valid argument to value a player.

[Duncan2177]

Champ is a retard.

[Blizzardwizard]

Vassell, Johnson and Champagnie better be on a #BEAMTEAM promotional poster outside Golden 1 Center by February 7th.

[100%duncan]

Why was Castle not in the game in the 4th the fuck

[scott]

In theory this is the kind of game that these guys can really learn from. We’ll see if they do.

[SayTown]

The Champagne giveth and The Champagne taketh...

[LeBowen]

Yeah, go on and blame the guy on a minimum contract over two other 3pt shooting wings earning 20 million each who didn't close the game out because minimum contract guy has been outplaying them all season long.

[Fireball]

i hate Philly ...

[scott]

Also… OKC has PHI’s pick, protected 1-6, because of course they do. Philly gonna be just good enough to deliver another #11 pick to OKC.

[Fizziksman]

Also… OKC has PHI’s pick, protected 1-6, because of course they do. Philly gonna be just good enough to deliver another #11 pick to OKC.

legit hate Paul George.

[Frenchfred]

Adding 2 high IQ players to a low IQ team doesn't make it a higher IQ team.

Just a low IQ team +2 high ones.

And the fact that he's on a cheap deal isn't a valid argument to value a player.

yes it is an argument as we cannot fill the team with high contracts. The Spurs need another star to complement Wemby. If that star takes a max and Wemby will get a max too; you need to have players with small contracts and for 4 million you won't get much better than Champagnie. He made some mistakes tonight but he kept us in the game

[scott]

Yeah, go on and blame the guy on a minimum contract over two other 3pt shooting wings earning 20 million each who didn't close the game out because minimum contract guy has been outplaying them all season long.

You’re being way too kind to the guy making closer to $30MM…

[LeBowen]

42 minutes combined for Keldon and Barnes, 4/2/2 statline with horrible defense and 0-9 from 3pt.
But let's blame the minimum contract guy who enabled the comeback in the first place.

[LeBowen]

You’re being way too kind to the guy making closer to $30MM…

That stepback 3pt was the last straw for me.
He's a tank commander, nothing more.

[ginobilized]

18 TO vs 9 TO is probably the game stat

Tough, ugly 90's style ballgame. Still a lot of growing and toughening up for this team. Hate to say it, but, trading for a star/superstar now doesn't help them grow up.

[John B]

That was just a stupid lost. Sorry but dumb Champ. He’s hearing this one from CP3 :lol Need to always have his head on the game, no lazy pass.

[rascal]

yes it is an argument as we cannot fill the team with high contracts. The Spurs need another star to complement Wemby. If that star takes a max and Wemby will get a max too; you need to have players with small contracts and for 4 million you won't get much better than Champagnie. He made some mistakes tonight but he kept us in the game

Champagnie is a role player and he played well overall. Can't expect this guy to be a star who will carry the team.

[Spurs Brazil]

We can’t have Sochan and Castle on the court because of shooting. Johnson chose to go with Sochan, but Castle was playing better tonight.

[Obstructed_View]

The Champagne giveth and The Champagne taketh...

Yeah, he has done this enough times that I feel like he should know better, but I still like what he contributes.

[Frenchfred]

Exactly. If we had a good SF, Champagnie would not close the games but Barnes and Keldon played pretty badly tonight.

[rascal]

Spurs need a second all star player. Need at least two all stars in this league.

[scott]

We can’t have Sochan and Castle on the court because of shooting. Johnson chose to go with Sochan, but Castle was playing better tonight.

At that stage of the game (when we were within 1 either way), I would have rolled with CP3-Castle-Champ-Sochan-Wemby. The need for 3pt shooter was diminished and the defensive presence is what was needed. There aren’t many situations where Castle and Sochan make sense… but I think this was one of them.

[LeBowen]

Also, "anyone can bring the ball up" bullshit needs to stop, especially in the clutch.

[Gibbz]

Not gonna blame this one on Champ. The two turnovers were obviously atrocious, but we're not in that game without him. Also Paul being your only ballhandler on the floor in that moment and being visibly gassed, and Champ getting it in the backcourt while your #4 pick rides the pine. I'm gonna need Castle to get out of the doghouse ASAP after that.

[TVI]

I really don't like it when Devin goes into hero ball mode.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

So FUCKING dumb at the there come on man wtf was that?!

[Frenchfred]

Spurs need a second all star player. Need at least two all stars in this league.

I agree. Is Fox that player? He is a little short for me, which would create problems at the SG when we play him and CP3 at the same time but when CP3 retires Fox and Castle would be a good back court.

[baseline bum]

Vassell, Johnson and Champagnie better be on a #BEAMTEAM promotional poster outside Golden 1 Center by February 7th.

Keep Champagnie. The two TO were moronic but overall still a big fan of him, especially given the contract he is on. But if Vassell and Keldon are on Sac they ain't gonna be lighting that beam too many times.

[spursistan]

Jesus christ Champ :lol

Can't wait until this team gets more shooters, man.
With higher basketball IQ, tbh. We are really lucky CP3 stayed healthy this season to man the offense in late/clutch situations. The amount of bed-shitting like tonight would have been the norm.

[LeBowen]

I agree. Is Fox that player? He is a little short for me, which would create problems at the SG when we play him and CP3 at the same time but when CP3 retires Fox and Castle would be a good back court.

Check out Fox topic and scroll back a bit for some height evidence, he's not 6'3...or most of the players listed at 6'3 are 6'2 or even 6'1.
Long term it would be Castle and Fox, this season is irrelevant in the bigger picture.

[Dex]

I love what Champ has been doing all season...but he kinda botched this one at the end when we had all the momentum...just being careless in the clutch.

Still a great player for his contract, just something to learn and grow from. We had the same growing pains with Danny Green sometimes

[timtonymanu]

Yeah champ messed up but he still wasn’t the problem tonight. Dev and Keldon are paid big bucks but did nothing. Barnes also did absolutely nothing.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Oh wow had no clue Castle only had 13 minutes and was 7-9 for 17 points lmao

[scott]

Correct takes all around. Champ is a role player outperforming his contract. We have roughly $85 million tied up in Vassell, Keldon, Barnes, and Collins who gave us a steaming bag of feces today. To Collins credit, at least he was glued to the bench.

[Frenchfred]

Check out Fox topic and scroll back a bit for some height evidence, he's not 6'3...or most of the players listed at 6'3 are 6'2 or even 6'1.
Long term it would be Castle and Fox, this season is irrelevant in the bigger picture.

I follow the topic and I saw the picture, I think that he is a real 6'3. Curry for me was never 6'3.

I agree that long term, it is Fox and Castle, which can be pretty good when Castle develops a jumpshot as he would have to be the SG.

[cutewizard]

Growing pains galore

[objective]

Another flaw of this team that will go under the radar because of the coaching, champ turnovers, Vassell play, difficulties with playing Sochan and Castle together ....

But Harrison Barnes is washed pretty badly.

He cranked that 3 game stretch of 20 point games that got him a fluke player of the week award, but ultimately, he's not good enough to be an NBA starter. His time has passed, that's why Sacramento gave up a swap to have DeRozan instead.

There's just to many games where he does.... NOTHING. That's how the Locked On Kings host described his game and he was right. He puts up small amount of threes, makes enough to look good there, but very often aside from the unreliable scoring he does nothing. No big impact on defense, on rebounding, in help, playmaking, rim deterrence, steals, hustle ...

He just kind of exists.

I think Mamu might legit be a better option at this point

[spursistan]

All in all, Spurs need to better on the road if they want to sniff the play-in. i don't think we have controlled a single game outside Frost bank going to the fourth Q.. We ve been playing catchup all season

[lefty]

:lol

https://x.com/thenbacentel/status/1871370635513090475

[Jordan Jackson]

Nothing really to be mad about out. They’ll continue to make these mistakes because very low BBIQ guys have prominent roles on this team.

Until that is solved the team will be hit or miss in close games. You cannot expect CP3 to save this team every night. He looks gassed at the end of games.

Front office really needs to have a come to Jesus moment with some of these guys this offseason. It’s been 3-4 years for a few of them. It is what it is.

[100%duncan]

Wanted this win badly. I predict we’re gonna get blown out by the Knicks

[sananspursfan21]

Champagnie was awful down the stretch but this game should have been won in the first 3 quarters. They never could string together consecutive positive possessions. It would have been thievery for them to pull this one out. After two fairly complete games, they regressed against a team just good enough not to let em back in

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AhHrjY_Mso

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVdl5caC4N8

[DAF86]

We can’t have Sochan and Castle on the court because of shooting. Johnson chose to go with Sochan, but Castle was playing better tonight.

We gotta stop with the "Castle and Sochan can't share the court" crap. They are supossed to be two of our core guys moving forward. Either start playing them together or move one of them. It doesn't make sense to have "core guys" that can't play together.

[Ice009]

With higher basketball IQ, tbh. We are really lucky CP3 stayed healthy this season to man the offense in late/clutch situations. The amount of bed-shitting like tonight would have been the norm.

I just finished watching the game and couldn't agree more. I shouldn't have stayed up. Been up for 24 hours, decided to watch the game. Spurs are full of small time players. Vassell, Keldon "clang" Johnson that don't show up when the games matter. Great tanking players that seem to play well/their best games when there is nothing to play for, or go up against inferior teams. Jeremy Sochan, he's playing tough, but I'm not even sure he's a starter with that abomination of a three point shot I saw him take earlier this game. That shooting coach needs to be fired. Never seen a player that's jumper looks uglier after the shooting coach started working with him. He's completely fucked Jeremy's shot to shit if you ask me.

Chris Paul is playing his ass off. Too bad the team is full of low iq players. Julian, I won't fault him too much with those turnovers as I'm sure he's beating himself up over it. And Steph Castle, not sure what the Spurs are doing playing him off the bench. Harrison Barnes has disappeared, and Devin hasn't earned that starting spot IMO.

[tonight...you]

Having CP3 here, with his mindset, his IQ, his demand of excellence and his understanding of so many live game situations is going to greatly affect Wemby for the rest of his career.

That alone is invaluable.

[Thomas82]

Wemby soft as fuck... How do u give up that rebound... He is too tall to be such a horrible rebounder... Dude really has no fundamentals and doesn't fight for shit down low

His average dropped under 10 after tonight.

[Pauleta14]

yes it is an argument as we cannot fill the team with high contracts. The Spurs need another star to complement Wemby. If that star takes a max and Wemby will get a max too; you need to have players with small contracts and for 4 million you won't get much better than Champagnie. He made some mistakes tonight but he kept us in the game

I don't think it has anything to do with money/size of the contract but scouting and FO choices.

I've rarely seen such limitations and low collective BBIQ from core players (Champ Vassell Keldon Sochan in particular, not even thinking about Brahman or Wesley tbh)

You can find a lot better in europe for a lot cheaper, like Yabusele for ex.

PATFO used to be quite good at it during the big3 era but I guess, keeping losing competent employees has a cost.

[Slippy]

Cp3 was clutch as usual in the 4th but he struggled bigtime for 3 quarters. He was part of the reason why the spur splayed from behind mostly.

Steph Castle had the right idea. He took it inside when it was clear No Embid of Drummond to man the middle Pity none of his teammates were on the same page. It was a soft middle.

Champ wss the only one too hit the 3 consistently but his careless TOs at the end were simply avoidable. He got the spursin the game and then gave it away.

[Raven]

We gotta stop with the "Castle and Sochan can't share the court" crap. They are supossed to be two of our core guys moving forward. Either start playing them together or move one of them. It doesn't make sense to have "core guys" that can't play together.

I agree, but then again Sochan is the biggest beneficiary of cp3's lead passes, so it makes sense to keep him paired for long stretches, and cp3 is closing, so there's that.

[Slippy]

Sochan is the ultimate link man knowing where to go for his teammates when spurs deal with a rotating d.

Spurs fans here undervalue what he does on offense

[Pauleta14]

We gotta stop with the "Castle and Sochan can't share the court" crap. They are supossed to be two of our core guys moving forward. Either start playing them together or move one of them. It doesn't make sense to have "core guys" that can't play together.

It's a taboo topic among spurs fans but ultimately that might have to happen if Sochan keeps being a liability on offense unless he is spoon fed.

Castle has a way higher potential and a lot more for him with his ball handling and penetrations that we need with Cp being more and more exhausted

[CGD]

Sochan is the ultimate link man knowing where to go for his teammates when spurs deal with a rotating d.

Spurs fans here undervalue what he does on offense

Totally. Jeremy has been great this year.

[CGD]

It's a taboo topic among spurs fans but ultimately that might have to happen if Sochan keeps being a liability on offense unless he is spoon fed.

Castle has a way higher potential and a lot more for him with his ball handling and penetrations that we need with Cp being more and more exhausted

Nah, I think the 3 clear keepers right now are Wembs, Sochan, and Castle. Ideally, they add 2 6’6-8’’ snipers to that group, and you have your future SL. Castle can up his 3% to low 30s which is all we need really if Wembs keeps this up.

[Pauleta14]

Nah, I think the 3 clear keepers right now are Wembs, Sochan, and Castle. Ideally, they add 2 6’6-8’’ snipers to that group, and you have your future SL. Castle can up his 3% to low 30s which is all we need really if Wembs keeps this up.

I said in another thread that Wemby Castle Sochan (in a lesser degree tbh) are untouchable for a trade.

But if Sochan doesn't improve not just his shooting but his court awareness, playmaking etc he won't be a core STARTER to me but a plug in versatile defensive player used depending on matchups/lineups

This, of course in an ideal world where Spurs finally have a decent roster, not one full of low IQ and limited players. Right now he's a no brainer by default

[Ice009]

I said in another thread that Wemby Castle Sochan (in a lesser degree tbh) are untouchable for a trade.

But if Sochan doesn't improve not just his shooting but his court awareness, playmaking etc he won't be a core STARTER to me but a plug in versatile defensive player used depending on matchups/lineups

This, of course in an ideal world where Spurs finally have a decent roster, not one full of low IQ and limited players. Right now he's a no brainer by default

I 100% agree. I love that Jeremy is doing, but it's just his absolutely shocking looking jumpshot that has me concerned about him being a long-term starter level. If his jumpshot didn't look so shockingly bad form wise (again, I've said in the past that I don't care about form if it goes in, but he's not a Reggie Miller like unorthodox type of form shooter that hits them), I'd feel much better about Jeremy going forward. I was happy to see Steph bounce back and he took advantage of there being no Embiid or Drummond out there taking it to the rim, which again, is the sign of a high IQ player, which the Spurs are really lacking. Steph's a TD, Manu, Tony (I won't mention everyone as the Spurs had a lot of those guys - Boris, Brent etc.) era level teammate/player as far as IQ goes that could have played on those Spurs teams.

[Pauleta14]

I 100% agree. I love that Jeremy is doing, but it's just his absolutely shocking looking jumpshot that has me concerned about him being a long-term starter level. If his jumpshot didn't look so shockingly bad form wise (again, I've said in the past that I don't care about form if it goes in, but he's not a Reggie Miller like unorthodox type of form shooter that hits them), I'd feel much better about Jeremy going forward. I was happy to see Steph bounce back and he took advantage of there being no Embiid or Drummond out there taking it to the rim, which again, is the sign of a high IQ player, which the Spurs are really lacking. Steph's a TD, Manu, Tony (I won't mention everyone as the Spurs had a lot of those guys - Boris, Brent etc.) era level teammate/player as far as IQ goes that could have played on those Spurs teams.



It's tough to have a nuanced exchange about Sochan on ST bc it's as if one had to choose a camp, either believer or hater ... smh

You'd have to be a complete idiot not to see and want the defensive grit and versatility he brings, but the balance with what he "costs" on offense varies a lot from game to game, not just bc of his shooting but his lack of "feeling" and "touch". He's very raw and I can barely see his improvements on his fundamentals tbh

This is just the RS, just imagine when teams will really scout and game plan the Spurs... Sochan will be exposed/used 100%, every team will do what they can to put the ball in his hands and make him the go to guy

Let's wait and see, we're not even half way to the season, he can still change my mind ^^

[LeBowen]

https://x.com/jtakuz/status/1871377292569751580?mx=2

:lmao:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[spursparker9]

https://x.com/jtakuz/status/1871377292569751580?mx=2

:lmao:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

He remind me of DiAngelo Russell

[itzsoweezee]

https://x.com/jtakuz/status/1871377292569751580?mx=2

:lmao:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Well, it could’ve been Paul that messed up there

[itzsoweezee]

Harrison over the last 10 games:

26min, 38% overall, 31% from three, 8.3 pts.

This guy has fallen off a cliff. Maybe he’d be better served coming off the bench and playing against other teams’ bench units. The team might be better off if Champagne and Barnes switch roles.

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs dont even have a reliale backup big when wendy is on the bench or cbf playing inside to rebound...9rpg is just to low for him