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Winehole23
11-13-2025, 03:25 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/60niz7.png

"tRuMp iS mEnTiOnEd 1000 tImEs"

Yet he couldn't even crack Politico's list of the most shocking revelations :lmao :lmao :lmaoif you read through the thread, you'll see I posted many of these right off the bat, quite independently of Politico

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 03:27 PM
And, in which of those 1,000 mentions is Trump implicated in criminal wrongdoing?the allegation that Trump spent hours with a victim at Epstein's house after he was a known sex offender seems to warrant scrutiny, don't you think?

Yonivore
11-13-2025, 03:29 PM
the allegation that Trump spent hours with a victim at Epstein's house after he was a known sex offender seems to warrant scrutiny, don't you think?
Link it. I'll scrutinize it.

What makes you think it hasn't already been scrutinized and bent 7 ways to Sunday for Democrats to try and implicate Trump in wrongdoing vis a' vis Epstein? None of these revelations are new to the Democrats that held office prior to Trump.

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 03:36 PM
Link it. I'll scrutinize it.

What makes you think it hasn't already been scrutinized and bent 7 ways to Sunday for Democrats to try and implicate Trump in wrongdoing vis a' vis Epstein? None of these revelations are new to the Democrats that held office prior to Trump.the email is posted multiply in this thread, but here you go:


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qxudeqrdbv6676vzjssrhllo/bafkreidxogzvvrjboykejamhqhhika63xlspggbnrnbeeb4nv oipdf7dgq@jpeg

I think that Trump associating socially with a known sex trafficker is politically damning all by itself, there's no need to prove anything else to make up one's mind about him

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 03:39 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/60niz7.png

"tRuMp iS mEnTiOnEd 1000 tImEs"

Yet he couldn't even crack Politico's list of the most shocking revelations :lmao :lmao :lmao

:lmao this is YOUR thread and YOUR Trump is hiding his Epstein files from YOU.

YOU fall for it EVERY SINGLE TIME.:lmao

Also pimping a top ten list from Politico?

:lmao

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 03:42 PM
(Maxwell seems to have changed her tune on whether Trump "knew about the girls")

Yonivore
11-13-2025, 03:50 PM
the email is posted multiply in this thread, but here you go:



I think that Trump associating socially with a known sex trafficker is politically damning all by itself, there's no need to prove anything else to make up one's mind about him
Compelling. No evidence of a crime and if mere association or allegation were enough, you'd be as critical of Joe "showered with my daughter" and "I like to sniff little girls' hair" Biden or Bill "I groped Kathleen Willy and Raped Juanita Broaddrick" Clinton. Sorry, an email from a pedophile to his provider, 6 years after a public falling out between him and Trump, after which there is little evidence of a continued relationship, isn't convincing.

But, you've made up your mind. So, go with it. Me, I want irrefutable evidence of a crime before I'll believe anything other than Democrats have tried scuttle Trump's political career since 2016 - all while having access to these files - and never used it. If you can explain that; I'll listen.

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 03:50 PM
Honestly, Trumptards: you're doing so many backflips to avoid the simple truth that Trump continues to hide the Epstein files he can release at any second.

He also tried to beg/bribe/coerce Republican women into help him hide the Epstein files from you.

Why is he doing this to you?

Yonivore
11-13-2025, 03:51 PM
(Maxwell seems to have changed her tune on whether Trump "knew about the girls")
To whom are you whispering?

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 03:52 PM
To whom are you whispering?that's what's called a theatrical aside, it's directed to the whole audience

(probably about five or ten people)

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 03:54 PM
Compelling. No evidence of a crime and if mere association or allegation were enough, you'd be as critical of Joe "showered with my daughter" and "I like to sniff little girls' hair" Biden or Bill "I groped Kathleen Willy and Raped Juanita Broaddrick" Clinton. Sorry, an email from a pedophile to his provider, 6 years after a public falling out between him and Trump, after which there is little evidence of a continued relationship, isn't convincing.

But, you've made up your mind. So, go with it. Me, I want irrefutable evidence of a crime before I'll believe anything other than Democrats have tried scuttle Trump's political career since 2016 - all while having access to these files - and never used it. If you can explain that; I'll listen.Your double standard is duly noted.

I can absolutely explain why files were not released before now: Legal actions against Epstein and Maxwell. Maxwell in particular just exhausted her final appeal. There was absolutely no way anything was going to be released during a prosecution.

But you wouldn't know anything about proper procedure.

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 03:55 PM
Compelling. No evidence of a crime and if mere association or allegation were enough, you'd be as critical of Joe "showered with my daughter" and "I like to sniff little girls' hair" Biden or Bill "I groped Kathleen Willy and Raped Juanita Broaddrick" Clinton. Sorry, an email from a pedophile to his provider, 6 years after a public falling out between him and Trump, after which there is little evidence of a continued relationship, isn't convincing.

But, you've made up your mind. So, go with it. Me, I want irrefutable evidence of a crime before I'll believe anything other than Democrats have tried scuttle Trump's political career since 2016 - all while having access to these files - and never used it. If you can explain that; I'll listen.I don't think you need proof to a legal certainty to decide for oneself, or as a political party, that someone is unfit to serve

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 03:57 PM
I get that that's the bar for y'all since y'all ditched honor and morality, the dishonor and shame your representatives bring by word or deed are tolerated merely to cling to power

Yonivore
11-13-2025, 03:58 PM
I don't think you need proof to a legal certainty to decide for oneself, or as a political party, that someone is unfit to serve
You don't need anything to decide for oneself. Have at it.

I've decided, for myself, that after all that has been thrown at Trump since he descended the escalator on July 16, 2015 to officially launch his first presidential bid, if guilt in the Epstein case was among his problems, the Democrats would have splashed that all over the place.

So, show me something irrefutable and I'll listen.

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 04:01 PM
You don't need anything to decide for oneself. Have at it.

I've decided, for myself, that after all that has been thrown at Trump since he descended the escalator on July 16, 2015 to officially launch his first presidential bid, if guilt in the Epstein case was among his problems, the Democrats would have splashed that all over the place.

So, show me something irrefutable and I'll listen.You're so skeptical you'll disbelieve everything but the irrefutable

So much for honor and morality

:lol

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 04:03 PM
You don't need anything to decide for oneself. Have at it.

I've decided, for myself, that after all that has been thrown at Trump since he descended the escalator on July 16, 2015 to officially launch his first presidential bid, if guilt in the Epstein case was among his problems, the Democrats would have splashed that all over the place.

So, show me something irrefutable and I'll listen.No you won't.

You showed us nothing irrefutable for your claims about Democrats.

Yonivore
11-13-2025, 04:04 PM
You're so skeptical you'll disbelieve everything but the irrefutable

So much for honor and reputation

:lol
When it comes to Trump and the lengths to which his opposition has gone to bring him down. Absolutely. Particularly when his opposition has had access to everything you've been harping on for years.

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 04:10 PM
When it comes to Trump and the lengths to which his opposition has gone to bring him down. Absolutely. Particularly when his opposition has had access to everything you've been harping on for years.Trump has access to it now and is hiding it from you.

Why?

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 04:23 PM
You guys keep it up. It's going great.

1989045760495694135

https://x.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1989045760495694135

:lol -39

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 04:24 PM
When it comes to Trump and the lengths to which his opposition has gone to bring him down. Absolutely. Particularly when his opposition has had access to everything you've been harping on for years.what is a political opposition for?

y'all wanted to bring Biden and Obama down, I honestly don't see the problem here

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 04:25 PM
(beside hurt feelings about it)

Spurs Homer
11-13-2025, 04:28 PM
Why did trump spend hours alone with one of the child victims of sex abuse, pedophilia?

Was he mentoring her?
Getting a massage from her?
Giving her piano lessons?
Discussing the bible with her?

Why was trump - who had already denied - being in the presence of any of the victims, in epsteins house, on the plane (the same epstein plane trump used during the trial where he was convicted of 34 Felonies) in Epsteins house...

with a victim?

Blake
11-13-2025, 04:31 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/60niz7.png

"tRuMp iS mEnTiOnEd 1000 tImEs"

Yet he couldn't even crack Politico's list of the most shocking revelations :lmao :lmao :lmao

Tsa firing off a copium jpg and hitting his February self that started this thread.

Blake
11-13-2025, 04:31 PM
Trump has access to it now and is hiding it from you.

Why?

Will never answer. Never.

Yonivore
11-13-2025, 04:52 PM
what is a political opposition for?

y'all wanted to bring Biden and Obama down, I honestly don't see the problem here
Well, the difference being, Hillary Clinton's political opponent (Trump) didn't pay someone to fabricate a dossier the intelligence community and media then used to try and impeach her. The difference being, Biden didn't have several government prosecutors campaigning for their jobs with the singular objective to "get Hillary." The difference being, No one tried to assassinate Hillary or Joe. The difference being, no prosecutor changed or manipulated existing law in order to win a 32 count indictment against Hillary or Joe. (As an aside, you do realize how silly it looks for people to claim his 32 time felon). The difference being, the Right has relied on argument to persuade people to vote against the opposition - not lies and fabricated crimes or attempted assassinations.

It's a big difference.

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 04:53 PM
Well, the difference being, Hillary Clinton's political opponent (Trump) didn't pay someone to fabricate a dossier the intelligence community and media then used to try and impeach her. The difference being, Biden didn't have several government prosecutors campaigning for their jobs with the singular objective to "get Hillary." The difference being, No one tried to assassinate Hillary or Joe. The difference being, no prosecutor changed or manipulated existing law in order to win a 32 count indictment against Hillary or Joe. (As an aside, you do realize how silly it looks for people to claim his 32 time felon). The difference being, the Right has relied on argument to persuade people to vote against the opposition - not lies and fabricated crimes or attempted assassinations.

It's a big difference.Why is Trump hiding his Epstein files from you?

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 04:58 PM
Well, the difference being, Hillary Clinton's political opponent (Trump) didn't pay someone to fabricate a dossier the intelligence community and media then used to try and impeach her. The difference being, Biden didn't have several government prosecutors campaigning for their jobs with the singular objective to "get Hillary." The difference being, No one tried to assassinate Hillary or Joe. The difference being, no prosecutor changed or manipulated existing law in order to win a 32 count indictment against Hillary or Joe. (As an aside, you do realize how silly it looks for people to claim his 32 time felon). The difference being, the Right has relied on argument to persuade people to vote against the opposition - not lies and fabricated crimes or attempted assassinations.

It's a big difference.:lol you just don't like having an opposition

y'all lie and cheat plenty

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 05:11 PM
:lol no Trumptard can explain

1989067242311463260

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1989067242311463260

Spurs Homer
11-13-2025, 05:20 PM
How do magats feel…that what the entire world knew and warned them about- that trump was a criminal,rapist,felon,traitor,russian asset..and epsteins running pedophile wing man….

has taken them an entire 10 years to begin to see…

what the entire planet exhaustedly tried to get them to open their eyes and see?

Yonivore
11-13-2025, 05:23 PM
:lol you just don't like having an opposition

y'all lie and cheat plenty
That's called projection, Winehole. Nobody cheats or lies like a Democrat.

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 05:24 PM
That's called projection, Winehole. Nobody cheats or lies like a Democrat.I think that is very naive

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 05:24 PM
That's called projection, Winehole. Nobody cheats or lies like a Democrat.
Trump has never cheated nor lied?

Why is he hiding his Epstein files from you?

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 05:25 PM
but I will say I find Yoni's hypocrisy a little touching

morality and veracity are exactly the wrong fig leaves for Trump and the Republican party

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 05:27 PM
Trumptards ceded their illusion of the high road decades ago.

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 05:28 PM
Trumptards ceded their illusion of the high road decades ago.Yoni thinks he's still standing on it

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 05:34 PM
Trump's last post was yesterday

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:nruu4ywzsygrdnz6z2ynmgbd/bafkreigbloqdruzfxd67jnvmdpyoqnngem33nib25kzjop2uw ysia7jnzu@jpeg

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 05:35 PM
Trump's last post was yesterday

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:nruu4ywzsygrdnz6z2ynmgbd/bafkreigbloqdruzfxd67jnvmdpyoqnngem33nib25kzjop2uw ysia7jnzu@jpeg

JD's last post was a couple days ago.

Trump had an emergency meeting about the Epstein files in the situation room.

All normal.

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 05:37 PM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:vunhim5ios6uyjradxi6b4b2/bafkreihailkkq6raxxmsi2dusdjhxkryu6pd6ylaey7gpuhbk zddfuu6fu@jpeg

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 05:41 PM
:lmao



https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:x4qyokjtdzgl7gmqhsw4ajqj/bafkreigjkjhbdfmqg64fa2cp2e2evyy6iydqxhrk4i7hkocph 5dqh2evaq@jpeg

Spurs Homer
11-13-2025, 05:43 PM
Apparently , boebert secretly recorded trump crying, threatening, bribing her in the situation room yesterday…

oof….

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 05:44 PM
InfoWars turns up its nose at a government conspiracy

and picks up the megaphone for the government

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 05:46 PM
InfoWars turns up its nose at a government conspiracy

and picks up the megaphone for the government

And they too can't explain why Trump keeps hiding his Epstein files.

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 05:47 PM
also, lol Yonivore standing tall on NOT PROVEN TO A LEGAL CERTAINTY

Winehole23
11-13-2025, 05:49 PM
just completely devoid of honor and morality

world leaders shouldn't be former BFFs with sex-ring traffickers

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 05:51 PM
also, lol Yonivore standing tall on NOT PROVEN TO A LEGAL CERTAINTY

just completely devoid of honor and morality

world leaders shouldn't be former BFFs with sex-ring traffickers
:lol he still won't admit he was wrong about Bush and Iraq.

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 06:12 PM
Bobert really sticking the landing on this one.

1988685750301520101

https://x.com/OfTheBraveUSA/status/1988685750301520101

Blake
11-13-2025, 06:19 PM
That's called projection, Winehole. Nobody cheats or lies like a Democrat.

:lol the Republican president is literally a convicted felon that has cheated plenty of people over the years. Or do you think Trump University was legit?

Yonivore
11-13-2025, 08:12 PM
I'm not sure Trump's the issue here:

This Says It All: Democrats Block the Release of the Epstein Files (https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/11/13/democrats-block-release-of-the-epstein-files-gee-i-wonder-why-n4945944)

https://x.com/i/status/1988728014725890359

DMX7
11-13-2025, 10:04 PM
The Epstein files won't bring down Trump if that's what some people are expecting/hoping for.

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 10:25 PM
The Epstein files won't bring down Trump if that's what some people are expecting/hoping for.

Your hero.

ChumpDumper
11-13-2025, 10:25 PM
I'm not sure Trump's the issue here:

This Says It All: Democrats Block the Release of the Epstein Files (https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/11/13/democrats-block-release-of-the-epstein-files-gee-i-wonder-why-n4945944)

https://x.com/i/status/1988728014725890359

Is this the unanimous consent gambit that would leave individual votes unrecorded?

:lol

Trump is blocking the release of his Epstein files.

Does that tell you all you need to know?

DMX7
11-13-2025, 11:55 PM
Your hero.

No, I just call it like I see it.

And I see it correctly.

Winehole23
11-14-2025, 08:35 AM
Disqualifying:

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:wiw2flcb762ybvhg7gj3bf2k/bafkreicmgzgia7wutl4sfefo7lpjg44kdm53hrctp2emkc3be mzdqsonwy@jpeg

Not disqualifying: banging underage prostitutes at a sex trafficker's house


https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP. NrVSuEjVVnKb21uPGzZaOwAAAA%3Fcb%3Ducfimg2%26pid%3D Api%26ucfimg%3D1&f=1&ipt=f9a0bb09c17307bcdff1b0196274338badba3c9195b48f 0d1d83e8528a025081&ipo=images

Winehole23
11-14-2025, 08:48 AM
:lmao

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:x4qyokjtdzgl7gmqhsw4ajqj/bafkreigjkjhbdfmqg64fa2cp2e2evyy6iydqxhrk4i7hkocph 5dqh2evaq@jpeg


InfoWars turns up its nose at a government conspiracy

and picks up its megaphone for the pedophile-captured US government...whose masked, jackbooted thugs are detaining Americans

Blake
11-14-2025, 08:48 AM
The Epstein files won't bring down Trump if that's what some people are expecting/hoping for.

He's a convicted felon yet he got rewarded any way. You and your team will figure out a way to reward him again.

Blake
11-14-2025, 08:49 AM
No, I just call it like I see it.

And I see it correctly.

:lol

Winehole23
11-14-2025, 09:09 AM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:2amnkge5a6hplfwyesmxqkfl/bafkreif5gc32v7mukypwgmmsotl3fqlfg7itakbwokaxakzap zqz3pnihe@jpeghttps://newrepublic.com/article/203186/transcript-marjorie-taylor-greene-drops-epstein-bomb-trump-spirals

ChumpDumper
11-14-2025, 11:21 AM
No, I just call it like I see it.

And I see it correctly.

Why is your hero hiding his Epstein files?

Spurs Homer
11-14-2025, 11:21 AM
A friend asked me to ask AI what or who is bubba in that epstein brothers email;

what does the epstein email mean when it says - does putin have the photo of trump blowing bubba -?















The phrase "does
Putin have the photo of Trump blowing Bubba" did not appear in any email written by Jeffrey Epstein himself, according to the newly released documents.

Instead, the phrase is a reference to a suggestion made by Jeffrey Epstein's brother, Mark Epstein, in a 2018 email exchange with his brother and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers. The full context is as follows:



Summers had emailed Jeffrey Epstein on the day of the July 16, 2018, Helsinki summit between Trump and Putin, calling Trump's performance "appalling" and asking, "Do the Russians have stuff on Trump?".
The next day, Mark Epstein responded to the thread, suggesting his brother ask: "You and your boy Donnie could do a remake of the movie Get Hard ... Does Putin have the photo of Trump blowing Bubba?". "Bubba" is widely understood to be a nickname for former President Bill Clinton.
This was a crude, a scatological joke or a snarky comment made in a private email, not a factual assertion that such a photo exists.


The email was part of a larger conversation where Jeffrey Epstein and his associates discussed Trump's interactions with Russia and speculated about whether Russian intelligence had compromising information on powerful figures.

Blake
11-14-2025, 12:01 PM
Why is your hero hiding his Epstein files?

BECAUSE NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO HIM IF HE RELEASES THE FILES!!

Spurs Homer
11-14-2025, 12:04 PM
:lol

funny until you realize there were 77 million muricans who invested in the con man pedophile...


https://youtu.be/WaboCRKfOXs?si=jG0qK3NwqflRjt6I

Spurs Homer
11-14-2025, 01:28 PM
lololol

tim pool twisting himself into a pretzel saying, "maybe trump was an FBI informant and used Moscow-a-Lago to entrap all the perverv, pedos, kiddie rapists....


hahahahahahahaha!

what calf tats have to say bout his boy?

koriwhat
11-14-2025, 02:13 PM
lololol

tim pool twisting himself into a pretzel saying, "maybe trump was an FBI informant and used Moscow-a-Lago to entrap all the perverv, pedos, kiddie rapists....


hahahahahahahaha!

what calf tats have to say bout his boy?

Your post says more about you than it does about me... So you watch Tim Pool huh? :lmao

Btw, how's this new "Epstein bombshell" working out for the Commie Dems and yourself, bud? It seems to be going just as I expected it to go, in the trash bin of leftist conspiracies once again. :lol

koriwhat
11-14-2025, 02:15 PM
He's a convicted felon yet he got rewarded any way. You and your team will figure out a way to reward him again.

You ooze bitch male... No wonder your Ex Wife left your sorry ass, she didn't want to be in a lesbian relationship with you.

koriwhat
11-14-2025, 02:16 PM
LMAO Who was the redacted victim?

ChumpDumper
11-14-2025, 02:57 PM
Why is Trump hiding his Epstein files?

Not one Trumptard can answer that.

Winehole23
11-14-2025, 05:06 PM
I'm fine if Summers, Bill Clinton and JP Morgan get investigated for their dealings with Epstein, but the executive branch telling Justice who to investigate is an obvious abuse of power.

Made worse by the fact that the referral is coming from the person most obviously implicated.

Winehole23
11-14-2025, 05:23 PM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:bbp2b224lro3bfnzcqwwnkfo/bafkreihtafudt5jhvtab2ojrtmeui3kw3tp3c6cnfga4hrgwf owei3ujgq@jpeg

Winehole23
11-14-2025, 05:40 PM
I suppose now DOJ can say they can't release the files because people are under investigation

Blake
11-14-2025, 05:56 PM
Why is Trump hiding his Epstein files?

Not one Trumptard can answer that.

Never

koriwhat
11-14-2025, 06:07 PM
I suppose now DOJ can say they can't release the files because people are under investigation

Probably.


Never

So you do want Presidents to interfere with the DOJ with any and all investigations? Odd. You seem lost when it comes to the process which is par for the course.

ChumpDumper
11-14-2025, 06:39 PM
:lol Trump ordered the investigations

Winehole23
11-14-2025, 08:25 PM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:izxpomdyri45gzhppiiyattq/bafkreih563ap33fo6o5lygipjkhhhzet2jnwnkrwjuloqxucx jsfbxs65a@jpeg

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:o6ow3r62vm4mzwjqc5i2gpa6/bafkreidypn4hxiwcyhzhlgaokezkhr3lnkqtqt3o3oomxojge a43hgswfi@jpeg

ChumpDumper
11-14-2025, 08:39 PM
:lol Trump gay

DMX7
11-14-2025, 09:38 PM
Why is your hero hiding his Epstein files?

Trump probably believes the contents of it are personally and politically damaging to him. He's not my "hero" though. Sorry.

Winehole23
11-14-2025, 10:13 PM
sure is fighting hard to keep it under wraps after promising to release it

like an innocent person does

Winehole23
11-15-2025, 10:00 AM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:z6rujpf4u56jfie7aqic2nfg/bafkreibtdooafvkd2emtmmjd7kbbmatrmjwkvkljkf55uabim o2gwc4ddu@jpeg

Winehole23
11-15-2025, 10:02 AM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:lqmoi2cf5errbxx6y7ttfajr/bafkreifwdk372pyabpie3ijn7bz4rin24ha43aa5vfzwshlyp 64i3t73yq@jpeg

djohn2oo8
11-15-2025, 01:06 PM
Marjorie Taylor Greene getting death threats she says for calling for the release

djohn2oo8
11-15-2025, 01:10 PM
1989698750365729067

lol MAGA splintering

Blake
11-15-2025, 01:43 PM
1989698750365729067

lol MAGA splintering

They voted for a felon crook. This is on them for voting for him just to see liberal tears.

koriwhat
11-15-2025, 02:00 PM
They voted for a felon crook. This is on them for voting for him just to see liberal tears.

Your ilk cheers on the likes of Lula and admire the worst villain's of humanity yet you're really upset Trump's a "felon". No one believes you you dumbshit retard. Only thing you're doing is trying to do is smear and scare those who support Trump, it won't work especially coming from a bitch male like you bro. Again, no one gives a fuck what "men" like you have to say. Stay in your lane bitch.

Spurs Homer
11-15-2025, 02:20 PM
After the “blowing bubba” thing….

a LOT of people are sayin….

now they understand why trump named it the “Big Beautiful Bill”

hahahahahaha!

Winehole23
11-16-2025, 11:12 AM
TV talking head, this morning

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fnationalfile.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2025%2F11%2FThomas-Massie-Epstein-Files-Releaser00086508-750x536.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=08bc4d63b3efcfd83d0ee2d530c55355a0567fb5765204 85cf6320de1313f52f


I would remind my Republican colleagues who are decided how to vote, Donald Trump can protect you in red districts right now by giving you an endorsement, but by 2030, he's not gonna be the president and you will have voted to protect pedophiles if you don't vote to release those files

Winehole23
11-16-2025, 02:51 PM
for some reason, some US Senators seem to think the release of the files would tend to make Trump a lame duck


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:ihpglfqq3dapqjmwl2ntktil/bafkreieg65youjze3rutod5buaxbxxhne2xnsdw552cwhjt5t 6trkxjqry@jpeg

Winehole23
11-16-2025, 03:03 PM
(Barrasso is the Senate Whip)

koriwhat
11-16-2025, 03:03 PM
After the “blowing bubba” thing….

a LOT of people are sayin….

now they understand why trump named it the “Big Beautiful Bill”

hahahahahaha!

Only you mentally ill weirdo leftists if we're being honest here.

Are you shaming Trump by making fun of his sexual proclivities, if that's what they are, when you advocate against bigotry and homophobia? How odd. :lmao

ChumpDumper
11-16-2025, 03:04 PM
I'm making fun of Trump's covering up his blowing a guy who wasn't even Bill Clinton.

Why are you such a pedo protector, Joey?

Winehole23
11-16-2025, 03:05 PM
Republican Senators worried about Trump becoming a lame duck, why not just replace him?

Do they not like JD Vance?

Winehole23
11-16-2025, 05:59 PM
Why keep a president who's deteriorating mentally and physically right in front of us?

Biden haters need to look in the mirror

Winehole23
11-16-2025, 06:09 PM
President is dragging the whole party down

Spurs Homer
11-16-2025, 08:35 PM
Joey kunt-tats thinks it is about trumps sexual proclivities instead of his

sex crimes against children

we want him prosecuted for his raping of children
and
make fun of his hypocrisy and his broken character and disgusting evil behavior…the same guy and the same party that condemn and rant and hyperventilate about

gays
browns
blacks
trans peoples bathroom preferences

are the same people (like trump) who have little skeletons in their own closet…like…for example


SUCKING COCK and RAPING CHILDREN!

ChumpDumper
11-16-2025, 08:40 PM
So the new Republican theory is Trump is protecting pedophiles out of homosexual panic over his own homosexuality.

lol going great

DMX7
11-16-2025, 10:19 PM
So now Marjorie Taylor Greene is a hero to dems. Unbelievable.

Both parties are ridiculous. :lol

ChumpDumper
11-16-2025, 10:21 PM
So now Marjorie Taylor Greene is a hero to dems. Unbelievable.

Both parties are ridiculous. :lolAre you against the release of the Epstein files?

Blake
11-16-2025, 11:06 PM
So now Marjorie Taylor Greene is a hero to dems. Unbelievable.

Both parties are ridiculous. :lol


What Dem sees her as a hero?

Lol going with the "both parties" line again. You're ridiculous.

DMX7
11-16-2025, 11:25 PM
Are you against the release of the Epstein files?

No. :lol

DMX7
11-16-2025, 11:27 PM
What Dem sees her as a hero?

Lol going with the "both parties" line again. You're ridiculous.

Liberal mainstream media can't get enough of her now. She's the prime interview on CNN, HBO's Realtime, CBS News, etc.

Blake
11-16-2025, 11:42 PM
Liberal mainstream media can't get enough of her now. She's the prime interview on CNN, HBO's Realtime, CBS News, etc.

I don't see Dems calling her a hero anywhere in her interviews. She's an interesting news piece at the moment for sure.

I can see how Epstein's victims could refer to her as a hero though. Your hero Trump certainly isn't a hero on any level.

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 12:56 AM
No. :lol
So that's not ridiculous?

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 12:57 AM
Liberal mainstream media can't get enough of her now. She's the prime interview on CNN, HBO's Realtime, CBS News, etc.

She's already been on all of these.

:lol you're not really up on things

BadMotorscooter
11-17-2025, 02:42 AM
Release the files so we can see Bill Clinton on them and democrats wont have a leg to stand on since they elected him twice......lmao

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 03:43 AM
Release the files so we can see Bill Clinton on them and democrats wont have a leg to stand on since they elected him twice......lmaoWhy s your Trump hiding his Epstein files?

BadMotorscooter
11-17-2025, 03:47 AM
Why s your Trump hiding his Epstein files?


he just said release them today....lets see how your idol Bill Clinton comes out in them.....lmao

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 06:55 AM
nobody gives a sh!t about Bill Clinton, Mr Bad Motorcycle

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 06:56 AM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:6z6pqvh2ubqhtdho7w2m7ips/bafkreidvjvhypfxxp5njon63l75jcm6s5toupmi73mtx3uwnf n6oybl22m@jpeghttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/16/us/politics/dhs-agents-reassigned.html

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 07:55 AM
Summers conditioned professional mentoring on the mentee (code-named "peril") putting out and discussed the whole thing with Jeffrey Epstein up til the day he was arrested


The exchanges concerning Jin’s messages and Summers’ relationship began shortly before a November 2018 investigation from the Miami Herald surfaced accusations from 80 girls and women that Epstein had abused them between 2001 and 2006, drawing on court records and interviews. Summers continued to correspond with Epstein about his relationship even after the Department of Justice opened an investigation in February 2019 into Epstein’s 2008 plea deal.

Wednesday’s documents also revealed messages where Summers, whose speculation (https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2005/1/19/summers-draws-fire-for-remarks-on/) that innate differences between men and women could drive women’s underrepresentation in science contributed to the end (https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2005/3/16/lack-of-confidence-in-a-sharp/) of his Harvard presidency in 2006, joked about women’s intelligence and what he described as excessive penalties for men who “hit on” women in the workplace.

In an October 2017 email to Epstein, Summers retread the same terrain that had proven treacherous for him in the past, writing that he “observed that half the IQ in world was possessed by women without mentioning they are more than 51 percent of population….”

Summers has continued to teach at Harvard since, interrupted by brief stints in Washington, and currently holds Harvard’s highest faculty distinction as a University Professor. This semester, he is teaching two large undergraduate courses and one graduate class.

The first interactions between Summers and Epstein on his relationship with the woman — apparently Jin — appear in late November and early December 2018, when she and Summers seem to have met during an academic conference. For two days, Summers sent Epstein updates on his interactions with her.

On Dec. 1, Summers wrote that the woman had been “interested in my commentary on her outfits” and said he had “referenced your having figured us out” — suggesting Summers told her that Epstein was aware of their relationship.

Summers described his feelings as conflicted in the messages to Epstein, writing in remarkably candid terms.

“When I’m reflective I think I’m dodging a bullet,” he wrote. “Think right thing is to cut off contact. Suspect she will miss it. Problem is I will too.”

The next morning, Summers struck a different tone: “Game day at conference she was extremely good Smart Assertive and clear Gorgeous. I’m fucked.”

In messages from later that month, Summers and Epstein discussed Summers’ relationship with Jin’s father, a former high-ranked Chinese Communist Party official and the founding president of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, who Summers had long been close with.

When Jin emailed Summers on Dec. 22 to thank him for his support of her and her father — minutes after she sent Summers an outline of an academic paper — Summers forwarded the exchange to Epstein, explaining that he had recently “sent a comment in mtg w her father flattering her father and saying other China officials had flattered him as well.”

Summers continued to detail his interactions with the woman — who appears to be Jin but is not named in the Epstein emails after December 2018 — throughout March 2019, now expressing frustration that she was canceling or shortening plans and appeared to be interested in another man.
“I think she is tired of this alas. Sustaining w secrecy hard,” he wrote.

The final tranche of messages, beginning in mid-June, shows the relationship still unresolved and Summers again turning to Epstein for guidance on how to pursue it. Summers asked Epstein whether it was “meaningful” to discuss the probability of “my getting horizontal w peril,” drawing parallels to forecasting Trump’s reelection.

“U r better at understanding Chinese women than at probability theory,” Summers told Epstein. The two men bantered about probability and mathematics, but repeatedly steered the conversation back to Summers’ relationship.

Epstein joked that “the probability of you in bed again with peril” was “0,” before reversing course and assuring Summers that “she is never ever going to find another Larry summers. Probability ZERO.”

Summers went on to describe what he saw as his “best shot”: that the woman finds him “invaluable and interesting” and concludes “she can’t have it without romance / sex.”

Throughout June, Summers fed Epstein updates about the woman’s workload and continued contact. Epstein urged him to play the “long game” and keep her in what he called a “forced holding pattern.”

The final messages, dated July 5, 2019, show Summers still in regular contact with Epstein. That morning, Summers wrote he was in Cape Cod with his family — “Bit of an Ibsen play,” he joked — and the two men exchanged a brief flurry of literary one-liners.

The thread ends at 1:27 p.m.

Epstein was arrested the next day.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/11/17/summers-epstein-wing-man-woman-described-as-mentee/

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 08:24 AM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5cn3kbi4g5blrtahon34xbu4/bafkreifvttmje2azi6weznpuw5gme23zxqin3sqmex3jyfggg nyo3vg6uy@jpeg

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 08:33 AM
he just said release them today....because he knows the US Senate will cover his ass, either by not scheduling a vote or by filibustering the bill

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 08:38 AM
he just said release them today....lets see how your idol Bill Clinton comes out in them.....lmao

:lol I don't care if he goes to prison if he actually did anything. You do care and want to protect Trump if he did anything since he's already a convicted felon.

Why is your Trump hiding his Epstein files?

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 09:38 AM
Limited hangout TACO time!

1990243905682522616

https://x.com/AaronParnas/status/1990243905682522616

Remember, Trump can just release all the files himself at any time.

He won't.

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 09:40 AM
DOJ: WE CAN'T RELEASE THE FILES NOW, WE'RE INVESTIGATING DEMOCRATS AT TRUMP'S BEHEST

Yonivore
11-17-2025, 09:46 AM
DOJ: WE CAN'T RELEASE THE FILES NOW, WE'RE INVESTIGATING DEMOCRATS AT TRUMP'S BEHEST

Trump reverses stance on Epstein files, urges Republicans to vote for releasing them (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-urges-us-house-republicans-vote-release-epstein-files-2025-11-17/)

I don't think Trump reversed his stance, as stated by the headline, he has always seen this as a distraction to his agenda but, here you go.

Of course, you've already had Democrats blocking Republican efforts to do just this...

Democrats blocked GOP efforts to fast-track vote on Epstein files to keep issue alive longer, Republicans charge (https://nypost.com/2025/11/13/us-news/democrats-blocked-gop-efforts-to-fast-track-vote-on-epstein-files-to-keep-issue-alive-longer-speaker-johnson-alleges/)

And, again, I don't think the headline tells the whole story; I believe Democrats fear the full release of the Epstein files will show two things, 1) Trump is demonstrably innocent of any wrongdoing and 2) Democrats will be more impacted by the revelations than Republicans.

I guess we'll see.

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 09:51 AM
Trump reverses stance on Epstein files, urges Republicans to vote for releasing them (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-urges-us-house-republicans-vote-release-epstein-files-2025-11-17/):lol you fell for it again.

Why doesn't Trump just release all the files himself?

There is no way he will do this, even if he signs the law that still has to pass the senate.

Blake
11-17-2025, 11:13 AM
It seems like a million years ago now that Trump "released" Epstein info in those middle school binders to his favorite Podcasters.

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 11:24 AM
It seems like a million years ago now that Trump "released" Epstein info in those middle school binders to his favorite Podcasters.there was nothing in them

Blake
11-17-2025, 11:48 AM
there was nothing in them

You would think that would've been a clue to these folks.....

Yonivore
11-17-2025, 12:07 PM
there was nothing in them

In Devastating Blow, Newly Released Emails Reveal Trump Not Well-Liked By Pedophile (https://babylonbee.com/news/in-devastating-blow-newly-released-emails-reveal-pedophile-didnt-like-trump)

Blake
11-17-2025, 12:20 PM
In Devastating Blow, Newly Released Emails Reveal Trump Not Well-Liked By Pedophile (https://babylonbee.com/news/in-devastating-blow-newly-released-emails-reveal-pedophile-didnt-like-trump)

Aww, the Bee tried so hard on that one.

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 12:51 PM
In Devastating Blow, Newly Released Emails Reveal Trump Not Well-Liked By Pedophile (https://babylonbee.com/news/in-devastating-blow-newly-released-emails-reveal-pedophile-didnt-like-trump)

Why is Trump still hiding his Epstein files he can release at any time?

Yonivore
11-17-2025, 01:26 PM
Someone avoiding a topic doesn't talk openly about the subject, "...just ask Prince Andrew, he'll tell you about it."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1990096946061554168

Blake
11-17-2025, 01:37 PM
Someone avoiding a topic doesn't talk openly about the subject, "...just ask Prince Andrew, he'll tell you about it."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1990096946061554168

Sounds to me like he knows first hand about the island.

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 01:50 PM
Someone avoiding a topic doesn't talk openly about the subject, "...just ask Prince Andrew, he'll tell you about it."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1990096946061554168

Why doesn't he just release all the files himself now?

Why is he actively and repeatedly working to stop the release of his Epstein files?

None of you can answer that.

Yonivore
11-17-2025, 02:09 PM
DOJ: WE CAN'T RELEASE THE FILES NOW, WE'RE INVESTIGATING DEMOCRATS AT TRUMP'S BEHEST
It's not just up to the DOJ, Winehole.

The DOJ, at Trump's direction, can declassify anything the executive branch has on Epstein — FBI files, intel reports, investigative notes, whatever. That authority comes from the Constitution and executive orders. But, the big stuff people argue about — grand-jury testimony, sealed depositions, protected victim information — is not controlled by the President. It’s controlled by the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 6(e) and federal judges.

A president cannot legally order the release of:


Grand jury material (that’s illegal without a judge’s approval)
Court-sealed evidence
Civil depositions under seal
Victim-protected information

Only a federal judge or an act of Congress can open that box. That’s why the House and Senate would need to change the law if they want full disclosure, just like they did with the JFK files and just like President Trump urged them to do yesterday. So, the idea that Trump (or any president) can “just release everything” is fantasy. He can declassify executive-branch documents, but the real choke point is the courts, not the White House.

Blake
11-17-2025, 02:24 PM
It's not just up to the DOJ, Winehole.

The DOJ, at Trump's direction, can declassify anything the executive branch has on Epstein — FBI files, intel reports, investigative notes, whatever. That authority comes from the Constitution and executive orders. But, the big stuff people argue about — grand-jury testimony, sealed depositions, protected victim information — is not controlled by the President. It’s controlled by the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 6(e) and federal judges.

A president cannot legally order the release of:


Grand jury material (that’s illegal without a judge’s approval)
Court-sealed evidence
Civil depositions under seal
Victim-protected information

Only a federal judge or an act of Congress can open that box. That’s why the House and Senate would need to change the law if they want full disclosure, just like they did with the JFK files and just like President Trump urged them to do yesterday. So, the idea that Trump (or any president) can “just release everything” is fantasy. He can declassify executive-branch documents, but the real choke point is the courts, not the White House.

The gymnastics you tards do for your lord and master...

Yonivore
11-17-2025, 02:25 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G59V10pXwAAlgcV?format=jpg&name=360x360

Blake
11-17-2025, 02:27 PM
".....As it became apparent that the bill will pass the House, most likely with significant support from Republican lawmakers, Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson changed their approach from outright opposition to declarations of indifference.

"I DON'T CARE!" Trump wrote in a social media post Sunday. "All I do care about is that Republicans get BACK ON POINT."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-said-he-doesnt-care-about-the-epstein-files-whats-next-in-the-push-for-their-release


Why is he so angry about being indifferent on such an important matter? Why isn't he angry that the files still have not been released?

Blake
11-17-2025, 02:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G59V10pXwAAlgcV?format=jpg&name=360x360

Yeah your team started this thread back in February and quickly abandoned it. Stop protecting his asshole pedo.

Blake
11-17-2025, 02:32 PM
1677715945458921473

Oh how the turn tables....

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 02:40 PM
It's not just up to the DOJ, Winehole.

The DOJ, at Trump's direction, can declassify anything the executive branch has on Epstein — FBI files, intel reports, investigative notes, whatever. That authority comes from the Constitution and executive orders. But, the big stuff people argue about — grand-jury testimony, sealed depositions, protected victim information — is not controlled by the President. It’s controlled by the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 6(e) and federal judges.

A president cannot legally order the release of:


Grand jury material (that’s illegal without a judge’s approval)
Court-sealed evidence
Civil depositions under seal
Victim-protected information

Only a federal judge or an act of Congress can open that box. That’s why the House and Senate would need to change the law if they want full disclosure, just like they did with the JFK files and just like President Trump urged them to do yesterday. So, the idea that Trump (or any president) can “just release everything” is fantasy. He can declassify executive-branch documents, but the real choke point is the courts, not the White House.

No one is asking Trump to release the Epstein files he can't release.

Why is Trump still hiding his Epstein files he can release at any time?

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 02:42 PM
Also :lol arguing Trump is at the mercy of the courts

Blake
11-17-2025, 02:49 PM
Also :lol arguing Trump is at the mercy of the courts

:lol

Blake
11-17-2025, 02:50 PM
https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1895202000889115130

https://x.com/PiersUncensored/status/1895175950851068189

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1895158631911276837

:lol

"ABSOLUTELY THERE WILL BE CRIMINAL ACTION TAKEN PHASE 1 COMPLETE!!!"

Gullible tools

koriwhat
11-17-2025, 03:17 PM
I don't see Dems calling her a hero anywhere in her interviews. She's an interesting news piece at the moment for sure.

I can see how Epstein's victims could refer to her as a hero though. Your hero Trump certainly isn't a hero on any level.

:lmao mccain... cohen... cheney... and now green.

koriwhat
11-17-2025, 03:17 PM
Gullible tools

Says the dude who was bamboozled by his cheating ex wife. Sure bro, sure.

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 03:18 PM
Joey is a pedo protector.

Could be an actual pedo.

Spurs Homer
11-17-2025, 04:26 PM
It's not just up to the DOJ, Winehole.

The DOJ, at Trump's direction, can declassify anything the executive branch has on Epstein — FBI files, intel reports, investigative notes, whatever. That authority comes from the Constitution and executive orders. But, the big stuff people argue about — grand-jury testimony, sealed depositions, protected victim information — is not controlled by the President. It’s controlled by the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 6(e) and federal judges.

A president cannot legally order the release of:


Grand jury material (that’s illegal without a judge’s approval)
Court-sealed evidence
Civil depositions under seal
Victim-protected information

Only a federal judge or an act of Congress can open that box. That’s why the House and Senate would need to change the law if they want full disclosure, just like they did with the JFK files and just like President Trump urged them to do yesterday. So, the idea that Trump (or any president) can “just release everything” is fantasy. He can declassify executive-branch documents, but the real choke point is the courts, not the White House.

This is what the pedophile protectors SPOONFED you and is based on lies.

Epstein is dead. The case is closed. Trump could - this very minute - release 99.999 of the epstein files today -

but they spoon-fed you the .00001 percent that has technicalities attached - so moron cultists like you can argue on the pedophile protectors behalf.

Trump can disregard that .00001 percent you claim is stuck in court - and just release the 99.999 percent of the rest of it -
unless he is a pedophile who is hiding the files.

What a sucker.

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 06:56 PM
2014


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:yn75hmwkitdshnylue6d3grk/bafkreifrb5io7cra4gvyz4eg4c6bt7xdrkcf2kgj3hfbjoiia qxpciafzm@jpeghttps://www.ft.com/content/2b27db1e-5f50-11e4-986c-00144feabdc0

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 08:16 PM
while continuing to fulfil his teaching obligations

:lmao


"please still pay me" :cry


Former Harvard President Lawrence H. Summers will step back from all public commitments in an effort “to rebuild trust and repair relationships with the people closest to me,” he wrote in a statement Monday evening.


The announcement comes less than one week after seven years of correspondence (https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/11/13/summers-epstein-messages/) between Summers and the disgraced financier Jeffrey E. Epstein were released by Republicans on the House Oversight Committee. The documents showed Summers and Epstein continued to exchange messages until July 5, 2019 — just one day before Epstein was arrested on new sex-trafficking charges.


“I am deeply ashamed of my actions and recognize the pain they have caused. I take full responsibility for my misguided decision to continue communicating with Mr. Epstein,” Summers wrote to The Crimson.


He is currently a senior fellow at the left-leaning think tank Center for American Progress, a paid columnist at Bloomberg News, and serves on the board of directors at Open AI. A spokesperson for Bloomberg declined to comment on Summers’ future with the outlet on Monday.

“While continuing to fulfill my teaching obligations, I will be stepping back from public commitments as one part of my broader effort,” he added in his statement.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/11/18/summers-steps-back-from-public-commitments-epstein/

Yonivore
11-17-2025, 08:31 PM
This is what the pedophile protectors SPOONFED you and is based on lies.

Epstein is dead. The case is closed. Trump could - this very minute - release 99.999 of the epstein files today -

but they spoon-fed you the .00001 percent that has technicalities attached - so moron cultists like you can argue on the pedophile protectors behalf.

Trump can disregard that .00001 percent you claim is stuck in court - and just release the 99.999 percent of the rest of it -
unless he is a pedophile who is hiding the files.

What a sucker.
You’re missing the elephant in the room. If Democrats had anything on Trump in the Epstein files, they wouldn’t have needed to fabricate the entire Russian-Collusion narrative in 2016 — involving the Clinton campaign, the sitting President, the intelligence community, and half the national media. They would’ve simply released the Epstein material and ended Trump’s political career overnight.

But they didn’t.

Because there’s nothing there.

And we know that because of who actually played games with the Epstein documents:

Democrats deliberately redacted Virginia Giuffre’s name and even pasted the word “VICTIM” over it to create an implication of guilt — even though she had already publicly identified herself and explicitly stated Trump never abused her.

Meanwhile, Jeffrey Epstein was literally texting Stacey Plaskett — a sitting Member of Congress — during a live congressional hearing, coaching her on questioning. That didn't come from Trumpworld.

So let’s drop the “99.999%” fantasy. If the files were as free and easy to release as you claim, Obama could’ve dumped them. Biden would have dumped them. Neither did — because the majority of those records are tied up in grand-jury material, sealed depositions, and protected-victim evidence controlled by the courts under Rule 6(e). Not even a president can unilaterally override that. Or worse, they implicate themselves or their cronies in the Democrat party.

House Democrat exchanged texts with Epstein during 2019 congressional hearing (https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/14/politics/epstein-texts-stacey-plaskett)

So no — this isn’t about Trump “hiding” anything. It’s about legal constraints, judicial control, and the fact that the people actually manipulating the Epstein narrative aren’t the ones you’re accusing.

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 08:34 PM
(has he really taken full responsibility? did he apologize to "Peril"?)

Yonivore
11-17-2025, 08:34 PM
while continuing to fulfil his teaching obligations

:lmao

"please still pay me" :cry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G59V10pXwAAlgcV?format=jpg&name=360x360

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 08:37 PM
People magazine, enemy of the people


When an off-camera female reporter — later identified (https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1989766778893832469?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1989766778893832469%7Ctwgr% 5Ed7e9443c612286ad8890bc2797551ef6a46a153e%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnypost.com%2F2025%2F11%2F17% 2Fmedia%2Ftrump-blasts-reporter-who-interrupted-him-you-are-the-worst%2F) as a Bloomberg reporter — began to ask if there was anything "incriminating" in the Epstein emails, Trump pointed a finger in her face.

"Quiet. Quiet, Piggy," he said menacingly.
https://people.com/donald-trump-snaps-quiet-piggy-at-female-reporter-who-asks-about-epstein-11851131

BadMotorscooter
11-17-2025, 08:59 PM
nobody gives a sh!t about Bill Clinton, Mr Bad Motorcycle


democrats dont want to hear about Clinton....lmao. Why did you support a pedo...twice?

BadMotorscooter
11-17-2025, 09:00 PM
:lol I don't care if he goes to prison if he actually did anything. You do care and want to protect Trump if he did anything since he's already a convicted felon.

Why is your Trump hiding his Epstein files?

Chump with the backtracking....lmao....why did you support a pedo....twice?

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 09:01 PM
democrats dont want to hear about Clinton....lmao. Why did you support a pedo...twice?I didn't vote for Bill Clinton, I never liked him

If he did something bad, I hope he gets punished for it

No skin off my ass

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 09:02 PM
DOJ tonight


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:pwsjq3xnal6auzgeqho4ecw7/bafkreig37t4562k5cem3rhi2hprl5ere3y7uesx2m6aoiimf6 4b6t4mbyq@jpeg

BadMotorscooter
11-17-2025, 09:04 PM
I didn't vote for Bill Clinton, I never liked him

If he did something bad, I hope he gets punished for it

no skin off my ass


uh-huh....sure.

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 09:05 PM
You’re missing the elephant in the room. If Democrats had anything on Trump in the Epstein files, they wouldn’t have needed to fabricate the entire Russian-Collusion narrative in 2016 — involving the Clinton campaign, the sitting President, the intelligence community, and half the national media. They would’ve simply released the Epstein material and ended Trump’s political career overnight.You're an idiot.

Your Bush gave Epstein a sweetheart deal in 2008.

Epstein and Maxwell were under investigation trial and appeals from 2017-2024.

There's no way the Biden admin would jeopardize the Maxwell legal situation on its watch.

Your assumption is Democrats are as lawless as your Trump.

Untrue.

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 09:06 PM
Chump with the backtracking....lmao....why did you support a pedo....twice?Prove he's a pedo.

Why are you a pedo?

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 09:08 PM
uh-huh....sure.never liked him, didn't vote for him

my style back then was to vote for principled nonentities and harmless cranks

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 10:14 PM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qp7anqcqescucfwi4wari2z4/bafkreifyow37nr3jriqrkeg23f6mveidxrxuk4acdwqrzfug4 32usvq5oy@jpeg

Winehole23
11-17-2025, 10:23 PM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:cnpe7qvcyjrhm6w7w7e4atur/bafkreidcq2lxfzf2l6vqdtmvzmygfinaygbrnnnnghgy3xnrj s6de3rwkq@jpeghttps://www.kbtx.com/2025/11/18/fired-bryan-federal-prison-nurse-says-ghislaine-maxwell-is-receiving-special-treatment-she-has-emails/

DMX7
11-17-2025, 11:07 PM
She's already been on all of these.

:lol you're not really up on things

And now she's back.

And look at Rep Raskin. You people are shameless. :lol

1990277882044924252

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 11:14 PM
And now she's back.

And look at Rep Raskin. You people are shameless. :lol
Why would you be ashamed for wanting Trump's Epstein files released?

I'm happy she wants Trump's Epstein files to be released.

Explain your shame.

BadMotorscooter
11-17-2025, 11:31 PM
Prove he's a pedo.

Why are you a pedo?

Prove Trump's a pedo.

Why are you a pedo?

ChumpDumper
11-17-2025, 11:37 PM
Prove Trump's a pedo.He's keeping all the pedo files a secret.

That was easy.

Why haven't you asked yourself why he is hiding everything?

Because you're a pedo.

BadMotorscooter
11-17-2025, 11:37 PM
He's keeping all the pedo files a secret.

That was easy.

Why haven't you asked yourself why he is hiding everything?

Because you're a pedo.

Still no proof....youre a pedo.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 06:41 AM
https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:7qqkq2zdwq4j5jingukgtuky/bafkreig4xy3tmywc3ui6o627bav5tmngngprzefzibmlfctyj ixhxkaicm@jpeg

Spurs Homer
11-18-2025, 10:36 AM
You’re missing the elephant in the room. If Democrats had anything on Trump in the Epstein files, they wouldn’t have needed to fabricate the entire Russian-Collusion narrative in 2016 — involving the Clinton campaign, the sitting President, the intelligence community, and half the national media. They would’ve simply released the Epstein material and ended Trump’s political career overnight.

But they didn’t.

Because there’s nothing there.

And we know that because of who actually played games with the Epstein documents:

Democrats deliberately redacted Virginia Giuffre’s name and even pasted the word “VICTIM” over it to create an implication of guilt — even though she had already publicly identified herself and explicitly stated Trump never abused her.

Meanwhile, Jeffrey Epstein was literally texting Stacey Plaskett — a sitting Member of Congress — during a live congressional hearing, coaching her on questioning. That didn't come from Trumpworld.

So let’s drop the “99.999%” fantasy. If the files were as free and easy to release as you claim, Obama could’ve dumped them. Biden would have dumped them. Neither did — because the majority of those records are tied up in grand-jury material, sealed depositions, and protected-victim evidence controlled by the courts under Rule 6(e). Not even a president can unilaterally override that. Or worse, they implicate themselves or their cronies in the Democrat party.

House Democrat exchanged texts with Epstein during 2019 congressional hearing (https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/14/politics/epstein-texts-stacey-plaskett)

So no — this isn’t about Trump “hiding” anything. It’s about legal constraints, judicial control, and the fact that the people actually manipulating the Epstein narrative aren’t the ones you’re accusing.

Irrelevant. Dems were just weak kunts who cared more about "playing by the rules" and terrified of the GOP messaging propaganda. The weak dems were
1) observing that Ghislane Maxwell case was still ongoing so they "played by the rules" (unlike Trump/GOP) and refrained because they were pussies
(the same way they "played by the rules" and allowed trump to delay his cases and avoid prosecutions - when they should have imprisoned him on jan 20, 2021 and forced trump to fight his cases from a jail cell)

2) the GOP would have howled 24/7 that the dems release of the files was impeachable and would have howled about "privacy" and "judicial fraud" "witch hunts" "made-up evidence" "contaminated files" and who knows how many hundreds of hours on hannity about "two-tier system of justice ad nauseum...

but again - IRRELEVANT TODAY!

Trump can release 99.999 of all the files LEGALLY - RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!
We dont even need a House or Senate vote....HE WONT.

You are a useful maga cultist idiot.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 10:55 AM
Johnson says he talked to Senate Majority Leader John Thune and is "very confident" that if this bill comes up in the Senate, GOP senators will amend it to "ensure ... protections" are there.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 11:00 AM
the House vote will probably be unanimous

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 12:19 PM
"Johnson says he talked to Senate Majority Leader John Thune and is 'very confident' that if this bill comes up in the Senate, GOP senators will amend it to 'ensure ... protections' are there."
Hey, thanks for the link to this story.

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 12:27 PM
:lmao yoni upset about a poster's not providing a link

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 12:43 PM
the House vote will probably be unanimous
Would you want to be voting no on this?

This will be my standard intro to every post on the Epstein matter because, well, no one in this forum has a fucking clue what the truth is. If convincing evidence is produced that shows Donald Trump engaged in illegal acts with minors, I hope he burns in hell with the rest of Epstein's criminal cohorts. But, I don't believe the facts will bear that out.

I know you believe otherwise but, I'm beginning to believe Trump has, yet again, boxed the Democrats into a corner. I believe the administration will be dragging this out to the mid-terms.

Trump roped the dopes on Epstein (https://donsurber.substack.com/p/trump-roped-the-dopes-on-epstein)

The Epstein files, released so far, haven't sunk Trump, if anything, they vindicated him. The ones who insisted the files be released “roped themselves,” as the article puts it. When the DOJ released 20,000 Epstein emails, the big takeaway wasn’t Trump’s involvement — it was that “Epstein hated Donald Trump… and had no relationship with President Trump.”

Everything Democrats and the media implied for years? Gone. Even AP’s spin admitted Trump “has not been accused of sexual misconduct by Epstein’s victims.”

Meanwhile, the attorney representing Epstein’s victims, Bradley Edwards — the one who actually tried to subpoena Trump — said this: “He is the only person who picked up the phone and said, ‘Let’s talk… I’ll tell you what you need to know. He was very helpful and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward.”

Edwards credits Trump’s cooperation as helpful to the victims’ case. Trump is literally the guy who assisted the investigation.

And the names actually tied to Epstein? “Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reid Hoffman, JPMorgan, Chase, and many other people and institutions.” Mostly, if not all, Democrats or heavy Democrat donors. Trump wasn’t on the island. They were.

So the people demanding the file release ended up proving their own side’s exposure. Which is the reason, I believe, it was never a hot topic during the Biden or Obama administrations. As the piece says:

“The dopes were roped.”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G59V10pXwAAlgcV?format=jpg&name=360x360

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 01:04 PM
"Johnson says he talked to Senate Majority Leader John Thune and is 'very confident' that if this bill comes up in the Senate, GOP senators will amend it to 'ensure ... protections' are there."
Here, I did the work for you, Winehole...

If convincing evidence is produced that shows Donald Trump engaged in illegal acts with minors, I hope he burns in hell with the rest of Epstein's criminal cohorts. But, I don't believe the facts will bear that out.

Yes — there are clear statements by Mike Johnson indicating he has discussed with Thune the need for protections to be added if the Epstein Files Transparency Act moves to the Senate.

Here are the relevant details you omitted:

Will more Epstein files be released? Today's House vote increases pressure on Trump's DOJ. (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/will-more-jeffrey-epstein-files-be-released-house-vote-pressure-trump-doj/)

Johnson said the bill “has serious deficiencies … the current version does not do enough to protect victims and could require the release of child-sexual-abuse materials, information exposing whistle-blowers or other source/methods.”

Epstein files live updates as House set to vote on bill to force release (https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/epstein-files-vote-2025/)

He said he’s spoken to Thune and is “very confident” that when the Senate processes the bill it will take time to amend the discharge petition version “to make sure these protections are there.”

Will more Epstein files be released? Today's House vote increases pressure on Trump's DOJ. (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/will-more-jeffrey-epstein-files-be-released-house-vote-pressure-trump-doj/)

For example: “I do have some comfort that … if and when it’s processed in the Senate … they’ll be able to correct some of those concerns.”

So yes — Speaker Johnson did indicate that Majority Leader Thune (or Senate leadership) would build in safeguards for victims’ identities, investigative-material protections, etc., in the bill’s next stage.

Nice try, Winehole but, you can stop with the Democrat lies. Selectively excerpting Johnson's statement is a lie. The only “protections” they’re talking about are the ones any sane adult would insist on — preventing the accidental release of child sexual-abuse material, shielding victims’ identities, and avoiding the disclosure of ongoing-investigation sources and whistleblowers. The idea that this is some GOP “cover-up” is a fantasy built on the hope that Epstein’s emails would finally nail Trump — and instead revealed Epstein hated Trump, had zero relationship with him, and that the names actually tangled up with Epstein belong to Democrats, donors, and institutions on their side of the aisle. Claiming Johnson is protecting Republicans is like blaming the fire marshal for putting water on your arson theory.

koriwhat
11-18-2025, 01:06 PM
What's funny about all of this nonsense is the fact the mentally ill like Spurs Homer thinks we're all in the WH Administration and can just speak into Trump's ear in order to get him to convince the DOJ to release the files. Yall leftists are taking mental illness to new levels! :lol

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 01:06 PM
Would you want to be voting no on this?

This will be my standard intro to every post on the Epstein matter because, well, no one in this forum has a fucking clue what the truth is. If convincing evidence is produced that shows Donald Trump engaged in illegal acts with minors, I hope he burns in hell with the rest of Epstein's criminal cohorts. But, I don't believe the facts will bear that out.

I know you believe otherwise but, I'm beginning to believe Trump has, yet again, boxed the Democrats into a corner. I believe the administration will be dragging this out to the mid-terms.

Trump roped the dopes on Epstein (https://donsurber.substack.com/p/trump-roped-the-dopes-on-epstein)

The Epstein files, released so far, haven't sunk Trump, if anything, they vindicated him. The ones who insisted the files be released “roped themselves,” as the article puts it. When the DOJ released 20,000 Epstein emails, the big takeaway wasn’t Trump’s involvement — it was that “Epstein hated Donald Trump… and had no relationship with President Trump.”

Everything Democrats and the media implied for years? Gone. Even AP’s spin admitted Trump “has not been accused of sexual misconduct by Epstein’s victims.”

Meanwhile, the attorney representing Epstein’s victims, Bradley Edwards — the one who actually tried to subpoena Trump — said this: “He is the only person who picked up the phone and said, ‘Let’s talk… I’ll tell you what you need to know. He was very helpful and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward.”

Edwards credits Trump’s cooperation as helpful to the victims’ case. Trump is literally the guy who assisted the investigation.

And the names actually tied to Epstein? “Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reid Hoffman, JPMorgan, Chase, and many other people and institutions.” Mostly, if not all, Democrats or heavy Democrat donors. Trump wasn’t on the island. They were.

So the people demanding the file release ended up proving their own side’s exposure. Which is the reason, I believe, it was never a hot topic during the Biden or Obama administrations. As the piece says:

“The dopes were roped.”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G59V10pXwAAlgcV?format=jpg&name=360x360


Here, I did the work for you, Winehole...

Yes — there are clear statements by Mike Johnson indicating he has discussed with Thune the need for protections to be added if the Epstein Files Transparency Act moves to the Senate.

Here are the relevant details you omitted:

Will more Epstein files be released? Today's House vote increases pressure on Trump's DOJ. (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/will-more-jeffrey-epstein-files-be-released-house-vote-pressure-trump-doj/)

Johnson said the bill “has serious deficiencies … the current version does not do enough to protect victims and could require the release of child-sexual-abuse materials, information exposing whistle-blowers or other source/methods.”

Epstein files live updates as House set to vote on bill to force release (https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/epstein-files-vote-2025/)

He said he’s spoken to Thune and is “very confident” that when the Senate processes the bill it will take time to amend the discharge petition version “to make sure these protections are there.”

Will more Epstein files be released? Today's House vote increases pressure on Trump's DOJ. (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/will-more-jeffrey-epstein-files-be-released-house-vote-pressure-trump-doj/)

For example: “I do have some comfort that … if and when it’s processed in the Senate … they’ll be able to correct some of those concerns.”

So yes — Speaker Johnson did indicate that Majority Leader Thune (or Senate leadership) would build in safeguards for victims’ identities, investigative-material protections, etc., in the bill’s next stage.

Nice try, Winehole but, you can stop with the Democrat lies. Selectively excerpting Johnson's statement is a lie. The only “protections” they’re talking about are the ones any sane adult would insist on — preventing the accidental release of child sexual-abuse material, shielding victims’ identities, and avoiding the disclosure of ongoing-investigation sources and whistleblowers. The idea that this is some GOP “cover-up” is a fantasy built on the hope that Epstein’s emails would finally nail Trump — and instead revealed Epstein hated Trump, had zero relationship with him, and that the names actually tangled up with Epstein belong to Democrats, donors, and institutions on their side of the aisle. Claiming Johnson is protecting Republicans is like blaming the fire marshal for putting water on your arson theory.
:lmao enormous walls of text.

Why has Trump been hiding his Epstein files all this time?

You have no answer.

None.

Why did Trump and his cronies say there was no evidence of any other party's being implemented in any crime then do a complete about face days ago when Trump ORDERED an investigation?

Of course all this happened after Blondi said she had the client list on her desk and was reviewing it for release before she started hiding the files.

You have no answer.

None.

koriwhat
11-18-2025, 01:09 PM
"If you don't tell Trump to release the files then you're a pedo!"

Keep throwing that term around loons. I've read about citizens being harassed with such vitriol and suing over defamation even if only on a simple forum.

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 01:10 PM
Joey is feeling harassed on an anonymous forum.

Blake
11-18-2025, 01:29 PM
:lmao enormous walls of text.

Why has Trump been hiding his Epstein files all this time?

You have no answer.

None.

Why did Trump and his cronies say there was no evidence of any other party's being implemented in any crime then do a complete about face days ago when Trump ORDERED an investigation?

Of course all this happened after Blondi said she had the client list on her desk and was reviewing it for release before she started hiding the files.

You have no answer.

None.

Maybe a bigger wall of text with even more Trump memes will win the thread for him.

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 01:45 PM
If convincing evidence is produced that shows Donald Trump engaged in illegal acts with minors, I hope he burns in hell with the rest of Epstein's criminal cohorts. But, I don't believe the facts will bear that out.

Larry Summers steps back from public commitments, ‘deeply ashamed’ by Epstein revelations (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/17/larry-summers-steps-back-from-public-commitments-deeply-ashamed-by-epstein-revelations-00655712?nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nname=playbook&nrid=a0f99f8a-2a86-476f-a3df-169b36dea568)

I know this is President Trump's doing, I just know it!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G59V10pXwAAlgcV?format=jpg&name=360x360

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 02:08 PM
Larry Summers is your big distraction?

:lmao

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 02:14 PM
The Larry Summers emails that Trump hid but the Democrats released.

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 02:26 PM
:lmao Trump has a fucking meltdown when he's asked why he won't release the Epstein files himself.

1990844412059136028

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1990844412059136028

He never answers the question, just like all you Trumptards never answer the question.

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 02:30 PM
No Trumptard gives one shit about any of the victims.

1990789235159265566

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1990789235159265566

DMX7
11-18-2025, 03:39 PM
Trump says he supports the release of the files. It’s never been about the victims for you. It’s always been about humiliating and politically damaging Trump for you. Look at how gleeful some of you post about Trump and Bubba. Sick.

Spurs Homer
11-18-2025, 04:02 PM
Clay Higgins from shithole lousiana- stands strong with his pedophiles!

only “no” vote on the pedo bill

Spurs Homer
11-18-2025, 04:08 PM
Trump sez he never went to the island…ill translate what that means:

”Trump absolutely went to the island many many times and if the files ever come out - there will be absolute factual evidence of this”

you are welcome

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 05:02 PM
Thune says the bill may come up on unanimous consent

in which case only DOJ and Trump himself would be standing in the way of the files release

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 05:43 PM
Passed by unanimous consent in the Senate

Only Trump and the DOJ stand in the way of transparency

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 05:44 PM
PFA take

Slow rolling and selective release will be the theme

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 05:48 PM
The US Congress has passed the buck to Trump, it's all up to him now

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 06:00 PM
No veto, because unanimous consent

Blake
11-18-2025, 06:35 PM
Trump says he supports the release of the files. It’s never been about the victims for you. It’s always been about humiliating and politically damaging Trump for you. Look at how gleeful some of you post about Trump and Bubba. Sick.

He's saying he supports it to placate you fools. It's clearly working. If he really supported it, it would be released. Now.

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 06:52 PM
Trump says he supports the release of the files. It’s never been about the victims for you. It’s always been about humiliating and politically damaging Trump for you. Look at how gleeful some of you post about Trump and Bubba. Sick.

Why did Trump oppose the release of his Epstein files?

Why didn't he just release them all himself?

You will never answer.

None of you Trumptards can.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 06:56 PM
Trump gonna hide

Blake
11-18-2025, 07:00 PM
Trump gonna hide

He's just gonna keep saying he supports it and pretend like it's someone else's problem as to why the files can't be released.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 07:07 PM
He's just gonna keep saying he supports it and pretend like it's someone else's problem as to why the files can't be released.Of course

But it's notable that in the end when it was time to vote, Trump got no political cover from Congress

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 07:10 PM
(Tick tock)

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 07:38 PM
Of course

But it's notable that in the end when it was time to vote, Trump got no political cover from Congress
He didn't ask for any. In fact, he encouraged passage and said he'd sign the bill.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 07:41 PM
He didn't ask for any. In fact, he encouraged passage and said he'd sign the bill.not before calling MTG a traitor for supporting it

and not before Mike Johnson keeping the House of Representatives on vacation for nearly three months to try to cover Trump's ass

you've got the attention span of a goldfish, Yonivore

:lol

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 07:46 PM
so then, now that the House and the Senate have voted (nearly) unanimously to release the files

is MTG still a traitor?

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 07:50 PM
not before calling MTG a traitor for supporting it

and not before Mike Johnson keeping the House of Representatives on vacation for nearly three months to try to cover Trump's ass

you've got the attention span of a goldfish, Yonivore

:lol
With the Schumer Shutdown, nothing would have been done.

So, I've yet to hear anyone explain why Democrats haven't done this all along. Epstein was a known entity in the Obama and Biden administrations yet, nothing.

But now, it's time to fish or cut bait. We'll see what happens.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 07:53 PM
With the Schumer Shutdown, nothing would have been done.

So, I've yet to hear anyone explain why Democrats haven't done this all along. Epstein was a known entity in the Obama and Biden administrations yet, nothing.

But now, it's time to fish or cut bait. We'll see what happens.Trump will withhold information derogatory to himself and release information derogatory to his enemies

In the end it will all come out

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 07:59 PM
Trump will withhold information derogatory to himself and release information derogatory to his enemies
I don't think that's true and I certainly don't think the Department of Justice (not just Bondi - but career staff) will abet that.


In the end it will all come out
Agreed.

Blake
11-18-2025, 08:03 PM
He didn't ask for any. In fact, he encouraged passage and said he'd sign the bill.

He's also a felon. You're shielding for a convicted crook and felon.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:05 PM
I don't think that's true and I certainly don't think the Department of Justice (not just Bondi - but career staff) will abet that.you have more faith in main justice than I do

and I believe you haven't been paying close attention to what the principals are doing -- it's a lawless, incompetent sh!tshow

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:10 PM
so then, now that the House and the Senate have voted (nearly) unanimously to release the files

is MTG still a traitor?you ducked, Yonivore

:lol

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:11 PM
Trump is losing 95% of the time in district court

There aren't that many activist judges

Trump is breaking the law as a matter of course

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:13 PM
Trump should resign in disgrace, he's trampling the people and the constitution

And he raped people, that used to be disqualifying

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:14 PM
(cling-to-power Republicans seem to be cool with it, though)

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 08:16 PM
you ducked, Yonivore

:lol
I never called her a traitor. So, not ducking. MTG is an adult, I'm sure she'll survive.

Trump said some pretty ugly things about his fantastic Secretary of State. Maybe you should pay less attention to what he says and more to what he does.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:17 PM
I never called her a traitor. Do you think she's a traitor?

You didn't exactly anwser

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 08:18 PM
Do you think she's a traitor?

You didn't exactly anwser
No, I don't. Exact enough?

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:18 PM
I never called her a traitor. So, not ducking. MTG is an adult, I'm sure she'll survive.

Trump said some pretty ugly things about his fantastic Secretary of State. Maybe you should pay less attention to what he says and more to what he does.Co-president Rubio

Is it hard to run four US agencies?

:lol

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 08:19 PM
Co-president Rubio

Is it hard to run four US agencies?

:lol
Oh look! A butterfly. Forget your ADHD meds today?

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:25 PM
No, I don't. Exact enough?yeah, thanks for saying it

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:26 PM
Oh look! A butterfly. Forget your ADHD meds today?You mentioned our awesome Secretary of State first

not me, butterfly

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 08:26 PM
yeah, thanks for saying it
You betcha!

Yonivore
11-18-2025, 08:27 PM
You mentioned our awesome Secretary of State first

not me, butterfly
As an example of how one can differentiate between Trump's words and actions. It wasn't an invitation to go off on a Rubio tangent.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:28 PM
You betcha!most of the right wing cowards around here just dance around what they're trying to say

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:31 PM
As an example of how one can differentiate between Trump's words and actions. It wasn't an invitation to go off on a Rubio tangent.Rubio is a soulless abomination and the archetype of mediocrity rising to its ultimate level of incompetence

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 08:59 PM
Rubio is a soulless abomination and the archetype of mediocrity rising to its ultimate level of incompetenceFor those reasons, Republicans should nominate Rubio in 2028

DMX7
11-18-2025, 10:42 PM
Why did Trump oppose the release of his Epstein files?

Why didn't he just release them all himself?

You will never answer.

None of you Trumptards can.

He opposed them because it's probably politically damaging to himself and donors/friends. Duh!

And yet again, you make clear that you're more concerned about that than the survivors. Really sad.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 10:45 PM
So then, Trump is right to prevent full disclosure?

Because it might hurt him?

:lol

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 10:47 PM
so much for Trump's innocence

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 11:13 PM
With the Schumer Shutdown, nothing would have been done.
Trump could release his Epstein files at any time. No vote from Congress was ever needed.


So, I've yet to hear anyone explain why Democrats haven't done this all along. Epstein was a known entity in the Obama and Biden administrations yet, nothing.
Your Bush gave Epstein a sweetheart deal before Obama took office.

No one knew how bad it was until Brown's series of stories in the Miami Herald restarted the investigations in 2017-18. Biden was busy actually putting Maxwell behind bars during his term, so there was no way they were going to jeopardize the trial or appeals.

Why did Trump give Maxwell privileges sex offenders are not supposed to get?


But now, it's time to fish or cut bait. We'll see what happens.
Trump will hide his Epstein files like he has all along.

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 11:15 PM
He opposed them because it's probably politically damaging to himself:lmao :lmao :lmao

Do you even realize what you're posting?

DMX7
11-18-2025, 11:18 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao

Do you even realize what you're posting?

I'm not a Trump fan, stupid. Your little mind can't process it. :lol

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 11:21 PM
I'm not a Trump fan, stupid. Your little mind can't process it. :lol:lmao of course you are.

What could be politically damaging to Trump in the records of a pedophile?

Let's flesh out your little theory.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 11:25 PM
(DMX7, you dodged me again, bro)

DMX7
11-18-2025, 11:28 PM
:lmao of course you are.

What could be politically damaging to Trump in the records of a pedophile?

Let's flesh out your little thory.

Oh, you sound so concerned about the victims. Go post about Bubba again! :lol

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 11:40 PM
Oh, you sound so concerned about the victims. Go post about Bubba again! :lol:lol You're dodging me too.

You're the one who said your Trump is hiding his Epstein files because they could damage him. How you just shut the fuck up about it when you were called out.:lol

The victims want the files released. I agree with them. I want them to testify before Congress if they wish. They deserve to be heard in that forum.

BadMotorscooter
11-18-2025, 11:47 PM
Whine Ho and Chump still trying to shame Trump supporters but yet supported pedo Clinton for 2 terms....lmao

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 11:49 PM
you're a bad mind reader Mr. Bad Motorcycle man

that isn't correct

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 11:50 PM
I'm cool with both of those losers going down

I guess you back Trump, eh?

BadMotorscooter
11-18-2025, 11:51 PM
I'm cool with both of those losers going down

I guess you back Trump, eh?

Nope...you voted Clinton twice and now that he's out of office....you want to act holier than thou....lmao.

Winehole23
11-18-2025, 11:57 PM
you don't know me, man

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 11:57 PM
Whine Ho and Chump still trying to shame Trump supporters but yet supported pedo Clinton for 2 terms....lmao
You keep saying that but you prove nothing.

All you're doing is trying to distract from your Trump hiding his Epstein files.

You're also accusing Trump of covering for Clinton.:lol

BadMotorscooter
11-18-2025, 11:58 PM
You keep saying that but you prove nothing.

All you're doing is trying to distract from your Trump hiding his Epstein files.

You're also accusing Trump of covering for Clinton.:lol

Neither do you, Chump....that is the point....you have no proof Trump did anything but sling pedo around all the time....we can do that also to your side.

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 11:59 PM
I'm cool with both of those losers going downYep. That's how the law is supposed to work.


I guess you back Trump, eh?It seems he backs Trump because he thinks Trump is a pedo.

ChumpDumper
11-18-2025, 11:59 PM
Neither do you, ChumpSure I do.

My proof is Trump has been hiding his Epstein files this entire time.

He's covering for pedophiles. You can't deny that. Might as well be a pedo in that case.

BadMotorscooter
11-19-2025, 12:02 AM
Sure I do.

My proof is Trump has been hiding his Epstein files this entire time.

He's covering for pedophiles. You can't deny that. Might as well be a pedo in that case.

So again, you dont have any proof....lmao

ChumpDumper
11-19-2025, 12:03 AM
So again, you dont have any proof.I do.

Trump continues to hide his Epstein files.

Why?

BadMotorscooter
11-19-2025, 12:04 AM
I do.

Trump continues to hide his Epstein files.

Why?

How about I do this so I have you on the record for slander.....can you prove Trump is a pedo....yes or no?

ChumpDumper
11-19-2025, 12:06 AM
How about I do this so I have you on the record for slander.....can you prove Trump is a pedo....yes or no?:lmao you don't even know what slander is.

It's on the record.

BadMotorscooter
11-19-2025, 12:07 AM
:lmao you don't even know what slander is.

It's on the record.


we'll see....

ChumpDumper
11-19-2025, 12:08 AM
we'll see....We'll see what?

Anyone who can read sees you don't know what slander is.:lol

ChumpDumper
11-19-2025, 12:29 AM
I mean what more do you people need?

1990802032198893608

https://x.com/JonLemire/status/1990802032198893608

Winehole23
11-19-2025, 07:46 AM
^^^ one rapist backs another

Winehole23
11-19-2025, 08:37 AM
Clay Higgins was the only member of the US Congress to vote against releasing the files

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fd.ibtimes.com%2Fen%2Ffull%2F46343 73%2Fclay-higgins.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=13c5f472f4285ed032eb1d362debfb2cbb6384b6798058 8b1e6e39618be2bd59

Winehole23
11-19-2025, 09:19 AM
I wonder how many of yall have been fired for speaking ill of Charlie Kirk on tiktok. :lolinformal tally, 600 people were fired in the Charlie Kirk lese majeste purge-- surely an undercount




https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:l4l2shylrjyxurbrmxsxceyc/bafkreiazog3oul7l6ggnqwyeyepjruad3xwjaxsadmyfd4te2 uz37orb7y@jpeghttps://www.reuters.com/investigations/charlie-kirk-purge-how-600-americans-were-punished-pro-trump-crackdown-2025-11-19/

Winehole23
11-19-2025, 09:27 AM
signs of institutional pride detected in the House of Representatives


in July, Rep. Mario Díaz-Balart, vice chair of the House Appropriations Committee and one of the 12 so-called “cardinals,” quietly added a provision to the fiscal 2026 bill for the National Security, Department of State, and Related Programs Subcommittee — which funds the agencies most impacted by Trump’s two rescissions requests — that would have addressed pocket rescissions.


The clause, Sec. 7065 (https://docs.house.gov/meetings/AP/AP00/20250723/118543/BILLS-119-SC-AP-FY2026-AP00-FY26NSRPFullCommitteeMark.pdf), would have given Congress an extra 45 days to consider rescissions requests submitted late in the fiscal year.


After the bill text was released, Vought reached out to Díaz-Balart, explaining that the White House was concerned about the provision, one senior White House official told NOTUS. The official said that after Vought relayed the issue, Díaz-Balart removed the provision.
https://www.notus.org/congress/mario-diaz-balart-trump-rescissions-appropriations

Winehole23
11-19-2025, 09:38 AM
Mike Johnson got buffaloed by Thune, sounds really rattled in this vid

https://x.com/mychaelschnell/status/1990963655270076654

ChumpDumper
11-19-2025, 10:04 AM
1990862186068037715

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1990862186068037715

https://compote.slate.com/images/66effc2b-d057-4aea-9eb1-be1342aa6050.jpeg

Winehole23
11-19-2025, 10:25 AM
informal tally, 600 people were fired in the Charlie Kirk lese majeste purge-- surely an undercount



https://www.reuters.com/investigations/charlie-kirk-purge-how-600-americans-were-punished-pro-trump-crackdown-2025-11-19/looks like the Charlie Kirk moral panic dwarfed decades of woke cancel culture all by itself


In the universe of cancel culture cases, I find more incidents concerning than Hobbes and fewer concerning than Young, but “this one incident wasn’t actually bad” vs. “yes it really was” doesn’t answer the question about size and scope. It doesn’t tell us what, if anything, society should do about it.

For that, we should look to data, and here again the problem looks smaller than anti-woke liberals make it out to be. In Liberal Currents,Adam Gurri (https://www.liberalcurrents.com/the-case-not-made-a-response-to-anne-applebaums-the-new-puritans/)cites the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), which documented (https://www.thefire.org/research/publications/miscellaneous-publications/scholars-under-fire/scholars-under-fire-full-text/#methodology) 426 “targeting incidents involving scholars at public and private American institutions of higher education” since 2015 and 492 “disinvitation attempts (https://www.thefire.org/research/disinvitation-database/#home/?view_2_per_page=1000&view_2_page=1&view_2_sort=field_6|desc)” since 1998. The organization Canceled People (https://www.canceledpeople.com/cancelations) lists 217 cases of “cancellation” since 1991, while the National Association of Scholars (https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/tracking-cancel-culture-in-higher-education)(NAS) lists 194 cancellations in academia since 2004 (plus two in the 20th century). Based on these numbers, Gurri concludes, “If any other problem in social life was occurring at this frequency and at this scale, we would consider it effectively solved.”

Let me add a denominator. There are nearly 4,000 colleges and universities in the United States. U.S. News’ 2021 rankings of the best schools lists 1,452. Using that smaller number and NAS’s figure of 194 academic cancellations since 2004, the chance of a college or university experiencing a cancellation in a given year is less than 0.8 percent
https://www.arcdigital.media/p/no-america-is-not-experiencing-a

Winehole23
11-19-2025, 10:56 AM
only ~200 names here

https://canceledpeople.org/cancellations/

Winehole23
11-19-2025, 12:04 PM
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP. iOe8rcHBs3z8wE4eLQqyAwHaEK%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=0abc091f5bdd995021cacf4a326a9ccb049b6fb5b5d98e 922af9853575856308&ipo=images


We're not gonna say anything else on that because now it is a pending investigation in SDNY

Spurs Homer
11-19-2025, 01:24 PM
This was the DOJ "official findings" earlier this year....hmmm...funny how we are about to hear something really different in the coming days...

https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1407001/dl?inline