2025 Free Agents

[Biggems]

Who are you looking at with hopes that the Spurs might possibly sign them? I am not sure we will be part of any sort of trade. I hear the Giannis rumors, but I take them with a boulder sized grain of salt. I see us using the draft and maybe signing a few free agents to fill out our roster.

As for myself:

players already available

1 C Steven Adams
2 F Guerschon Yabusele

if he becomes available

F Naz Reid

[RC_Drunkford]

Santi Aldama

[mo7888]

Who are you looking at with hopes that the Spurs might possibly sign them? I am not sure we will be part of any sort of trade. I hear the Giannis rumors, but I take them with a boulder sized grain of salt. I see us using the draft and maybe signing a few free agents to fill out our roster.

As for myself:

players already available

1 C Steven Adams
2 F Guerschon Yabusele

if he becomes available

F Naz Reid

There's a lot of guys I could see depending on how we wanna build this team out.

John Collins
NAW
Aldama
Kennard
Brogdon
Capela
Russell
THJR
Malik Beasley

To go along with the names you mentioned..

[LeBowen]

Grizllies and TWolves cleared space to keep Aldama and Naz, I doubt those two are happening.
Especially Naz, he's a fan favorite there and they're doing great.

John Collins at 80/4 is the best we can hope for, tbh.

[scott]

Charles Bassey

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

As of right now the Spurs don't have any cap space. MLE and BAE unless they make moves. So the more expensive FA targets are but pipe dreams at this point. More like sign and trade targets.

[LeBowen]

As of right now the Spurs don't have any cap space. MLE and BAE unless they make moves. So the more expensive FA targets are but pipe dreams at this point. More like sign and trade targets.

With CP3, Mamu, Biyombo, McL and Bassey leaving, Spurs should be at ~$142.3M in salaries, with cap space being at $154.6M for the next season.
If we keep the #8 pick, that's another $5.7M and #14 is $4M.

[RC_Drunkford]

yeah we'll most likely have to aquire players via trade and should have the MLE available for free agency signings.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

With CP3, Mamu, Biyombo, McL and Bassey leaving, Spurs should be at ~$142.3M in salaries, with cap space being at $154.6M for the next season.
If we keep the #8 pick, that's another $5.7M and #14 is $4M.

I have the cap holds for the picks a little higher but it makes no significant difference anyway.

The good thing about the new CBA is that teams can acquire contracts into their MLE, which makes almost every team essentially having cap space, despite the fact very few teams have actual cap space. If the Spurs trade the picks, or one of the picks, they could easily get some more cap space by trading Branham's and Wesley's contracts into some team's exception for a couple of seconds. Spurs have like 16 SRPs to use in trades, including a very juicy '26 Utah 2nd that's very likely to be in the low 30s.

[ambchang]

Wemby plays a largely wing role on offence and is a classic centre role on defence. Would be great if we can have a player who can play D like a SF and O like a C. Th e spurs were looking to have sochan in that role I believe. He did a decent, even good job on defence but not on offence. The cuts and dunks were working at the beginning of the year but once the other teams figured things out sochan struggled. Sochan doesn’t have to be a dead eye shooter, just an adequate one, and not to open it up for others, but for himself. Wemby is the one who has to be double teamed out in the perimeter and that opens up the driving lanes for everyone involved. Sochan just has to be adequate enough to have some guy be closer proximity to him so the defence can’t clog up the lane. He doesn’t have to create, he doesn’t have to look for his teammates, he just has to stand there as a reasonable enough threat, and cut for dunks and layups when castle and fox drives. Basically long story short, sochan just has to shoot 32%, at a reasonable clip, with a quicker release, at around 4 or 5 attempts a game. He’s quite a few years from there.

So to replace him, my opinion is that we should be looking for someone who has perimeter defensive skills, can cut and dunk, and can shoot reasonably. Honestly I can’t think of any attainable targets right now though which kind of sucks. NAW may be that guy. And I hope we can get him but I doubt he’s attainable now.

Castle is now tagged to be that inside scoring threat creator, with fox creating havoc driving into the lane, wemby can roam out in the three point area, launch his threes and drive in for dunks to his hearts content. Neither fox and castle are dead eye shooters but wemby is (sort of). Champaigne and Barnes are also capable shooters. What I’m saying is that the spurs lack of shooting is overblown. I’d love to have them get more shooters as well but that’s not the main concern, the main concern is that they have no one scoring inside. The spurs were actually #9 in 3PM last year, the accuracy sucked at #20, but that could be smoothed out with more drive and kicks from fox and castle.

The spurs though were #28 in % of FG from 3-10 feet. This aligns with my observation of them not having much low post scoring. Yes they are #7 in 0-3 feet but that’s a lot to do with drives by guys like castle and keldon. There aren’t too many actual reliable centre like offence from the spurs players, either cut and dunk, rim rollers or low post players.

I’d still like wemby to make more happen down low where he shoots an insane 81% from 0-3 feet. His efficiency from 3-10 feet is subpar right now at 46.8% but with his array of moves and size he can either go around or shoot over defenders with relative ease. But it seems like the spurs have it chiselled in stone that wemby will shoot 50% of his shots from 3 so might as well build around that.

[exstatic]

Wemby plays a largely wing role on offence and is a classic centre role on defence. Would be great if we can have a player who can play D like a SF and O like a C. Th e spurs were looking to have sochan in that role I believe. He did a decent, even good job on defence but not on offence. The cuts and dunks were working at the beginning of the year but once the other teams figured things out sochan struggled. Sochan doesn’t have to be a dead eye shooter, just an adequate one, and not to open it up for others, but for himself. Wemby is the one who has to be double teamed out in the perimeter and that opens up the driving lanes for everyone involved. Sochan just has to be adequate enough to have some guy be closer proximity to him so the defence can’t clog up the lane. He doesn’t have to create, he doesn’t have to look for his teammates, he just has to stand there as a reasonable enough threat, and cut for dunks and layups when castle and fox drives. Basically long story short, sochan just has to shoot 32%, at a reasonable clip, with a quicker release, at around 4 or 5 attempts a game. He’s quite a few years from there.

So to replace him, my opinion is that we should be looking for someone who has perimeter defensive skills, can cut and dunk, and can shoot reasonably. Honestly I can’t think of any attainable targets right now though which kind of sucks. NAW may be that guy. And I hope we can get him but I doubt he’s attainable now.

Castle is now tagged to be that inside scoring threat creator, with fox creating havoc driving into the lane, wemby can roam out in the three point area, launch his threes and drive in for dunks to his hearts content. Neither fox and castle are dead eye shooters but wemby is (sort of). Champaigne and Barnes are also capable shooters. What I’m saying is that the spurs lack of shooting is overblown. I’d love to have them get more shooters as well but that’s not the main concern, the main concern is that they have no one scoring inside. The spurs were actually #9 in 3PM last year, the accuracy sucked at #20, but that could be smoothed out with more drive and kicks from fox and castle.

The spurs though were #28 in % of FG from 3-10 feet. This aligns with my observation of them not having much low post scoring. Yes they are #7 in 0-3 feet but that’s a lot to do with drives by guys like castle and keldon. There aren’t too many actual reliable centre like offence from the spurs players, either cut and dunk, rim rollers or low post players.

I’d still like wemby to make more happen down low where he shoots an insane 81% from 0-3 feet. His efficiency from 3-10 feet is subpar right now at 46.8% but with his array of moves and size he can either go around or shoot over defenders with relative ease. But it seems like the spurs have it chiselled in stone that wemby will shoot 50% of his shots from 3 so might as well build around that.

He’s not posting up, throwing reverse pivots and hook shots. If he’s within 3 feet, he’s dunking the ball. Those are dunks. The reason his efficiency drops at the next level is simply because he can’t post up, or move anyone out of the way.

[Dejounte]

It’s a “program” as Mitch said. Watch them focus on sufficiently good on court + locker room vets in the vein of Barnes. The Spurs tell everyone who they are every year. The idea is to focus on a core group and set them up for success by giving them a good environment and mentors to learn from. They will invest heavily on the Big Three plus whoever they add with their highest pick. They probably already see guys like Keldon and Vassell as Spurs Culture guys who serve as the accelerator in their growth.

I’d say they go for older types like Adams, John Collins, Brogdon. Doubt they go for young guys like Aldama.

[Seventyniner]

Wemby plays a largely wing role on offence and is a classic centre role on defence. Would be great if we can have a player who can play D like a SF and O like a C. Th e spurs were looking to have sochan in that role I believe. He did a decent, even good job on defence but not on offence. The cuts and dunks were working at the beginning of the year but once the other teams figured things out sochan struggled. Sochan doesn’t have to be a dead eye shooter, just an adequate one, and not to open it up for others, but for himself. Wemby is the one who has to be double teamed out in the perimeter and that opens up the driving lanes for everyone involved. Sochan just has to be adequate enough to have some guy be closer proximity to him so the defence can’t clog up the lane. He doesn’t have to create, he doesn’t have to look for his teammates, he just has to stand there as a reasonable enough threat, and cut for dunks and layups when castle and fox drives. Basically long story short, sochan just has to shoot 32%, at a reasonable clip, with a quicker release, at around 4 or 5 attempts a game. He’s quite a few years from there.

So to replace him, my opinion is that we should be looking for someone who has perimeter defensive skills, can cut and dunk, and can shoot reasonably. Honestly I can’t think of any attainable targets right now though which kind of sucks. NAW may be that guy. And I hope we can get him but I doubt he’s attainable now.

That's exactly why I think if the Spurs do extend Sochan, it will be with the intention of starting him rather than bringing him off the bench. His role complements Wemby's really well as you pointed out, and he really did make big improvements this season in efficiency. He also was the primary defender on star wings and guards. Bringing him off the bench reduces both his minutes with Wemby and against the opponents' best players, a double whammy.

I don't think he needs to be a high or even medium volume three-point shooter, though. He would already be the fifth option on offense even when he plays with bench players.

[cutewizard]

Can we get both Naz Reid and Yabusele??

[DPG21920]

I have the cap holds for the picks a little higher but it makes no significant difference anyway.

The good thing about the new CBA is that teams can acquire contracts into their MLE, which makes almost every team essentially having cap space, despite the fact very few teams have actual cap space. If the Spurs trade the picks, or one of the picks, they could easily get some more cap space by trading Branham's and Wesley's contracts into some team's exception for a couple of seconds. Spurs have like 16 SRPs to use in trades, including a very juicy '26 Utah 2nd that's very likely to be in the low 30s.

Moving Barnes should be pretty easy IMO - they could find a taker for him and free that money up if needed too

[ambchang]

Can we get both Naz Reid and Yabusele??

I don’t want Yab at all. He can’t defend and is a limited player on offence. He puts up “meh” numbers on a worse team than the spurs. No thanks.

Reid is likely not gettable but the more I look at it the more I think the spurs will go for an inside presence. Having another centre launch 50% of his shots from 3 will crowd up operating space for wemby. I’m actually thinking a player with a similar shot diet as Julius Randle who can defend and has a much smaller contract would work with wemby. Problem is I can’t find anyone like that. Perhaps the spurs think castle is that guy and will add complimentary shooting pieces around them. I’m not sure.

NAW is a good guy to get. Jaden mcdaniels would be a dream. I would like to have wiggins replace Vassell as well. But none of those are the inside presence tbe spurs are sorely lacking.

[LeBowen]

I’m actually thinking a player with a similar shot diet as Julius Randle who can defend and has a much smaller contract would work with wemby.

Randle is on just $3M more than Devin next season.
It's going to be interesting to see what happens with him due to Minnesota's cap situation.
I can't see anyone offering him more than 25 to 30 a year, maybe he picks up that option.

[RC_Drunkford]

I'd love to trade for John Collins. Keldon + the 14th or maybe even a gang of 2nd round picks would get it done. But somehow I got the feeling that we won't break up the friendship crew. I also can't see us trading Barnes, because his leadership is very valuable for this squad.

[ginobilized]

Just for reference, here's a list of all NBA Free Agents in 2025.

NBA Free Agents
Tracking the status and signings of all NBA free agents.
SEASON

TEAM

POSITON

FREE AGENT TYPE


AVAILABLE
entries per page
PLAYER (202) POS AGE YOE PREV TEAM PREV AAV TYPE
LeBron James PF 40.3 22 LAL $50,677,999
PLAYER / $52.6M
Fred VanVleet PG 31.2 9 HOU $42,846,615
CLUB / $44.9M
Kyrie Irving PG 33.1 14 DAL $40,000,000
PLAYER / $44.0M
James Harden SG 35.7 15 LAC $35,000,000
PLAYER / $36.3M
Khris Middleton SF 33.7 13 WAS $31,000,000
PLAYER / $34.0M
Julius Randle PF 30.4 11 MIN $29,272,320
PLAYER / $30.9M
John Collins PF 27.6 8 UTA $25,000,000
PLAYER / $26.6M
Brook Lopez C 37.1 17 MIL $24,000,000
UFA / Bird
Clint Capela C 30.9 11 ATL $22,940,640
UFA / Bird
Bruce Brown Jr. SG 28.7 7 NOP $22,500,000
UFA / Early Bird
Malcolm Brogdon PG 32.3 9 WAS $22,500,000
UFA / Bird
Myles Turner C 29.1 10 IND $20,451,750
UFA / Bird
Tim Hardaway Jr. SG 33.1 12 DET $18,750,000
UFA / Bird
Duncan Robinson SF 31.0 7 MIA $18,000,000
OPT-OUT / $19.9M
D'Angelo Russell PG 29.2 10 BKN $18,000,000
UFA / Bird
Caris LeVert SG 30.7 9 ATL $16,000,000
UFA / Bird
Luke Kennard SG 28.8 8 MEM $14,000,000
UFA / Bird
Naz Reid C 25.7 6 MIN $13,986,432
PLAYER / $15.0M
Dorian Finney-Smith PF 32.0 9 LAL $13,890,240
PLAYER / $15.4M
Dennis Schröder PG 31.6 12 DET $12,715,125
UFA / Early Bird
Steven Adams C 31.8 12 HOU $12,600,000
UFA / Bird
Marvin Bagley III PF 26.1 7 MEM $12,500,000
UFA / Bird
Bobby Portis PF 30.2 10 MIL $12,144,552
PLAYER / $13.4M
Chris Boucher PF 32.2 8 TOR $11,750,000
UFA / Bird
Matisse Thybulle SG 28.2 6 POR $11,025,000
PLAYER / $11.6M
Moritz Wagner C 28.0 7 ORL $11,000,000
CLUB / $11.0M
Joe Ingles SF 37.6 11 ORL $11,000,000
UFA / Non-Bird
Larry Nance Jr. PF 32.3 10 ATL $10,790,000
UFA / Bird
Chris Paul PG 39.9 20 SAS $10,460,000
UFA / Non-Bird
Al Horford C 38.9 18 BOS $9,750,000
UFA / Bird
Tre Jones PG 25.2 5 CHI $9,500,000
UFA / Bird
Pat Connaughton SG 32.2 10 MIL $9,423,869
PLAYER / $9.4M
Gary Payton II PG 32.4 9 GSW $8,715,000
UFA / Bird
Kelly Oubre Jr. SF 29.3 10 PHI $8,182,575
PLAYER / $8.4M
Jeff Green PF 38.7 18 HOU $8,000,000
UFA / Early Bird
Trey Lyles PF 29.5 10 SAC $8,000,000
UFA / Bird
Vasilije Micic PG 31.2 2 PHX $7,851,717
CLUB / $8.1M
Gary Harris SG 30.6 11 ORL $7,500,000
CLUB / $7.5M
Kevon Looney C 29.2 10 GSW $7,500,000
UFA / Bird
Jae’Sean Tate SF 29.5 5 HOU $6,876,811
UFA / Bird
Josh Giddey SG 22.5 4 CHI $6,803,702
RFA / Bird
Jevon Carter PG 29.6 7 CHI $6,500,000
PLAYER / $6.8M
Jonathan Kuminga PF 22.5 4 GSW $6,213,837
RFA / Bird
Precious Achiuwa PF 25.6 5 NYK $6,000,000
UFA / Bird
Malik Beasley SG 28.4 9 DET $6,000,000
UFA / Non-Bird
Dario Saric PF 31.0 9 DEN $5,297,200
PLAYER / $5.4M
Davion Mitchell PG 26.7 4 MIA $5,237,879
RFA / Bird
Andre Drummond C 31.7 13 PHI $5,000,000
PLAYER / $5.0M
Ziaire Williams SF 23.6 4 BKN $4,976,981
RFA / Bird
Nicolas Batum SF 36.3 17 LAC $4,784,700
PLAYER / $4.9M
Aaron Holiday PG 28.6 7 HOU $4,784,700
CLUB / $4.9M
Nickeil Alexander-Walker SG 26.7 6 MIN $4,500,000
UFA / Bird
Dwight Powell C 33.8 11 DAL $4,000,000
PLAYER / $4.0M
Jake LaRavia PF 23.5 3 SAC $3,690,842
UFA / Bird
Amir Coffey SG 27.8 6 LAC $3,666,667
UFA / Bird
Tre Mann PG 24.2 4 CHA $3,511,803
RFA / Bird
Russell Westbrook PG 36.4 17 DEN $3,386,366
PLAYER / $3.5M
Cory Joseph PG 33.7 13 ORL $3,386,366
CLUB / $3.5M
Eric Gordon SG 36.3 17 PHI $3,386,366
PLAYER / $3.5M
Doug McDermott SF 33.3 11 SAC $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
Markieff Morris PF 35.7 14 LAL $3,303,771
UFA / Bird
Tristan Thompson C 34.1 14 CLE $3,303,771
UFA / Early Bird
Patty Mills PG 36.7 16 LAC $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
James Johnson PF 38.2 15 IND $3,303,771
UFA / Bird
Spencer Dinwiddie PG 32.0 11 DAL $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
Seth Curry SG 34.7 12 CHA $3,303,771
UFA / Early Bird
Taj Gibson C 39.8 16 CHA $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
Kyle Lowry PG 39.1 19 PHI $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
Alec Burks SG 33.8 14 MIA $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
Garrett Temple SG 38.9 15 TOR $3,303,771
UFA / Early Bird
Mason Plumlee C 35.2 12 PHX $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
DeAndre Jordan C 36.8 17 DEN $3,303,771
UFA / Bird
Dante Exum PG 29.8 9 DAL $3,075,000
UFA / Early Bird
Isaiah Jackson PF 23.2 4 IND $3,039,165
RFA / Bird
Tyus Jones PG 28.9 10 PHX $3,003,427
UFA / Non-Bird
Cameron Payne PG 30.7 10 NYK $3,003,427
UFA / Non-Bird
Delon Wright PG 33.0 10 NYK $3,003,427
UFA / Non-Bird
Ajay Mitchell PG 22.8 1 OKC $3,000,000
CLUB / $3.0M
Taurean Prince PF 31.1 9 MIL $2,988,550
UFA / Non-Bird
Ariel Hukporti C 23.0 1 NYK $2,872,666
CLUB / $2.0M
Monte Morris PG 29.8 8 PHX $2,800,834
UFA / Non-Bird
Luke Kornet C 29.8 8 BOS $2,800,834
UFA / Bird
Quentin Grimes SG 24.9 4 PHI $2,782,011
RFA / Bird
Trendon Watford PF 24.4 4 BKN $2,726,603
UFA / Early Bird
Thomas Bryant C 27.8 8 IND $2,686,788
UFA / Non-Bird
Damion Lee SG 32.5 8 PHX $2,686,788
UFA / Early Bird
Jae Crowder SF 34.8 13 SAC $2,620,232
UFA / Non-Bird
Cameron Thomas SG 23.5 4 BKN $2,613,962
RFA / Bird
Gary Trent Jr. SG 26.2 7 MIL $2,613,120
UFA / Non-Bird
Day'Ron Sharpe C 23.4 4 BKN $2,579,451
RFA / Bird
Santi Aldama C 24.2 4 MEM $2,560,843
RFA / Bird
Justin Edwards SG 21.3 1 PHI $2,553,451
CLUB / $2.0M
Ty Jerome SG 27.8 6 CLE $2,500,000
UFA / Early Bird
Talen Horton-Tucker SG 24.4 6 CHI $2,425,403
UFA / Non-Bird
Jordan McLaughlin PG 29.0 6 SAS $2,425,403
UFA / Non-Bird
Bol Bol PF 25.4 6 PHX $2,425,403
UFA / Early Bird
Tristan Vukcevic C 22.1 2 WAS $2,424,892
RFA / Two-Way
Kevin Porter Jr. PG 25.0 5 MIL $2,392,183
PLAYER / $2.5M
Jaxson Hayes C 24.9 6 NOP $2,314,473
UFA / Bird
Vlatko Cancar PF 28.0 6 DEN $2,271,775
UFA / Bird
Keon Johnson SG 23.1 4 BKN $2,256,092
CLUB / $2.3M
Luka Garza C 26.3 4 MIN $2,256,092
CLUB / $2.3M
Sandro Mamukelashvili C 25.9 4 SAS $2,162,606
UFA / Non-Bird
Charles Bassey C 24.5 4 SAS $2,162,606
UFA / Bird
Dalano Banton PG 25.4 4 POR $2,108,338
UFA / Early Bird
AJ Green SG 25.6 3 MIL $2,108,016
UFA / Bird
Guerschon Yabusele PF 29.3 3 PHI $2,087,519
UFA / Non-Bird
Caleb Houstan SF 22.2 3 ORL $2,051,850
CLUB / $2.2M
Jericho Sims C 26.5 4 MIL $1,886,069
UFA / Bird
Lonnie Walker IV SG 26.3 7 PHI $1,860,904
CLUB / $2.9M
P.J. Tucker PF 40.0 14 NYK $1,857,897
CLUB / $3.5M
Antonio Reeves SG 24.4 1 NOP $1,802,934
RFA / Bird
Rayan Rupert SG 20.9 2 POR $1,744,366
CLUB / $2.2M
Josh Minott SF 22.4 3 MIN $1,736,199
CLUB / $2.2M
Gui Santos SF 22.8 2 GSW $1,714,339
CLUB / $2.2M
Keon Ellis SF 25.2 3 SAC $1,701,903
CLUB / $2.3M
Landry Shamet SG 28.1 7 NYK $1,682,008
UFA / Bird
JT Thor PF 22.7 4 WAS $1,659,553
RFA / Two-Way
Jalen Wilson PF 24.5 2 BKN $1,654,511
CLUB / $2.2M
Tony Bradley C 27.2 7 IND $1,635,635
CLUB / $2.9M
Elfrid Payton PG 31.2 9 NOP $1,602,563
CLUB / $3.2M
Jabari Walker SF 22.8 3 POR $1,585,781
RFA / Bird
Jared Butler PG 24.7 4 PHI $1,547,652
CLUB / $2.3M
Paul Reed C 25.8 5 DET $1,530,375
UFA / Non-Bird
Lindy Waters III SF 27.8 4 DET $1,481,533
UFA / Bird
Brandon Boston Jr SG 23.4 4 NOP $1,473,080
CLUB / $2.3M
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl PF 24.5 4 NOP $1,422,907
UFA / Bird
Tyrese Martin SF 26.1 2 BKN $1,413,875
CLUB / $2.2M
Dominick Barlow PF 21.9 3 ATL $1,381,311
CLUB / $2.3M
Keshad Johnson PF 23.8 1 MIA $1,340,130
CLUB / $2.0M
Chuma Okeke PF 26.7 5 CLE $1,331,209
CLUB / $2.5M
Stanley Umude G 26.0 3 DET $1,329,577
RFA / Two-Way
Jordan Goodwin PG 26.5 4 LAL $1,286,648
CLUB / $2.3M
Quinten Post C 25.1 1 GSW $1,197,149
CLUB / $2.0M
Alex Len C 31.8 12 LAL $1,177,206
UFA / Non-Bird
Jeff Dowtin PG 27.9 4 PHI $1,162,327
RFA / Two-Way
J.D. Davison PG 22.6 3 BOS $1,141,366
CLUB / $2.3M
Kai Jones PF 24.2 4 DAL $1,104,289
RFA / Two-Way
Ben Simmons PG 28.8 9 LAC $1,082,061
UFA / Non-Bird
Isaac Jones C 24.8 1 SAC $1,054,167
CLUB / $2.0M
Torrey Craig SF 34.3 8 BOS $1,046,289
UFA / Non-Bird
Drew Timme F 24.6 1 BKN $1,034,216
CLUB / $2.0M
Markelle Fultz PG 26.9 8 SAC $981,902
RFA / Non-Bird
Bismack Biyombo C 32.7 14 SAS $797,462
UFA / Non-Bird
Javonte Green SG 31.8 6 CLE $696,955
UFA / Non-Bird
MarJon Beauchamp SG 24.5 3 NYK $514,970
RFA / Two-Way
Ryan Rollins SG 22.8 3 MIL $491,887
RFA / Two-Way
Pat Spencer G 28.8 2 GSW $438,810
RFA / Non-Bird
Lamar Stevens SF 27.8 5 MEM $411,529
UFA / Early Bird
Kevin Knox SF 25.7 7 GSW $330,394
UFA / Non-Bird
Braxton Key SF 28.2 3 GSW $11,997
UFA / Non-Roster Invite
David Roddy PF 24.1 3 PHI $11,997
RFA / Two-Way
Branden Carlson C 25.8 1 OKC $6,538
RFA / Two-Way
Anton Watson PF 24.5 1 NYK $0
RFA / Two-Way
Miles Norris PF 25.0 2 BOS $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jacob Toppin SF 24.9 2 ATL $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jalen Hood-Schifino PG 21.8 2 PHI $0
RFA / Two-Way
Nah'Shon Hyland PG 24.6 4 MIN $0
UFA / Two-Way
Taran Armstrong G 23.2 1 GSW $0
RFA / Two-Way
Wendell Moore Jr. SG 23.8 3 CHA $0
RFA / Two-Way
Keion Brooks Jr. SF 1 NOP $0
RFA / Two-Way
Tristen Newton PG 24.0 1 MIN $0
RFA / Two-Way
Emanuel Miller SF 24.8 1 CHI $0
RFA / Two-Way
Isaiah Stevens PG 24.5 1 MIA $0
RFA / Two-Way
Boo Buie G 25.3 1 NYK $0
RFA / Two-Way
Yuki Kawamura G 24.0 1 MEM $0
RFA / Two-Way
Mac McClung PG 26.2 3 ORL $0
RFA / Two-Way
Christian Koloko C 24.8 2 LAL $0
RFA / Two-Way
E.J. Liddell PF 24.3 3 CHI $0
RFA / Two-Way
Emoni Bates SG 21.2 2 CLE $0
RFA / Two-Way
Kessler Edwards SF 24.7 4 SAC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Micah Potter C 27.0 4 UTA $0
RFA / Two-Way
Kevin McCullar Jr. SG 24.1 1 NYK $0
RFA / Two-Way
TyTy Washington Jr. PG 23.4 3 PHX $0
RFA
Spencer Jones SF 23.8 1 DEN $0
RFA / Two-Way
Harrison Ingram SF 22.4 1 SAS $0
RFA / Non-Bird
David Duke Jr. SG 25.5 4 SAS $0
RFA / Two-Way
Quenton Jackson G 26.6 3 IND $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jack McVeigh F 28.8 1 HOU $0
RFA / Two-Way
Josh Christopher SG 23.3 3 MIA $0
RFA / Two-Way
Trentyn Flowers F 20.1 1 LAC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Riley Minix SF 24.6 1 SAS $0
RFA / Two-Way
Alex Ducas G 24.3 1 OKC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Keaton Wallace G 26.2 2 ATL $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jamal Cain SF 26.1 3 NOP $0
RFA / Two-Way
Bryce McGowens SG 22.4 3 POR $0
RFA / Two-Way
P.J. Hall PF 23.2 1 DEN $0
RFA / Two-Way
N'Faly Dante PF 23.5 1 HOU $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jesse Edwards C 25.1 1 MIN $0
RFA / Two-Way
Cam Spencer SG 25.0 1 MEM $0
RFA / Two-Way
Daniss Jenkins G 23.7 1 DET $0
RFA / Two-Way
Reece Beekman PG 23.5 1 BKN $0
RFA / Two-Way
Drew Peterson F 25.4 2 BOS $0
RFA / Two-Way
Trey Alexander SG 22.0 1 DEN $0
RFA / Two-Way
Isaiah Crawford G 23.5 1 SAC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jalen Bridges SG 23.9 1 PHX $0
RFA / Two-Way
Dru Smith SG 27.3 2 MIA $0
RFA / Two-Way
Collin Gillespie PG 25.8 3 PHX $0
RFA / Two-Way
Justin Minaya F 26.1 3 POR $0
RFA / Two-Way
Adam Flagler G 25.4 2 OKC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Mason Jones SG 26.8 4 SAC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Troy Brown Jr. SG 25.8 7 DET
UFA / Early Bird

[HankChinaski]

Damn thst is a huge list. I didn't realize J. Collins has a player option would love to see him exercise that. I would like him in a spurs uniform next to Wemby.

[LeBowen]

I'd love to trade for John Collins. Keldon + the 14th or maybe even a gang of 2nd round picks would get it done. But somehow I got the feeling that we won't break up the friendship crew. I also can't see us trading Barnes, because his leadership is very valuable for this squad.

There won't be enough minutes available if we add Collins and draft a forward.
Fox/Castle/Devin lineups will still be a thing and there are just 96 minutes available at forward positions. With Devin still being on the roster, ~80 is the best case scenario.
Even if we assume Collins plays ~15 minutes as Wemby's backup, he'd still play ~15 at PF.
Meaning there would be just ~65 minutes left for Barnes, Keldon, Jeremy, Champ and rookie(s). Someone has to go.

Barnes is a must keep because was our best and most reliable shooter, is the only veteran left on the team and is an expiring contract.
Champ is also a must keep because he costs nothing, won't complain about not playing enough minutes and he would add very little value in a trade.
Devin will surely (unfortunately) stay because they still believe in him.
So it's between Keldon and Jeremy who will be gone. If it was up to me, I'd trade both of them for Collins. I don't want to give an extension to a non-shooting forward.
Just think about it, how many of those are getting regular minutes in these playoffs? Exactly. Pushing him into a backup C role just hurts the team.

[mo7888]

Damn thst is a huge list. I didn't realize J. Collins has a player option would love to see him exercise that. I would like him in a spurs uniform next to Wemby.

We'd still need to S&T for him (which I'm for if its more more tban keldon + salary ballast + 14).

[exstatic]

Randle is on just $3M more than Devin next season.
It's going to be interesting to see what happens with him due to Minnesota's cap situation.
I can't see anyone offering him more than 25 to 30 a year, maybe he picks up that option.

I’d been thinking that teams are already running scared after last summer’s transactions, and it was only a matter of time before players/agents started doing the same. It used to be automatic to opt out of the last year, but since teams aren’t spending like they did 2-3 years ago, I think fewer players will opt out.

[LeBowen]

I’d been thinking that teams are already running scared after last summer’s transactions, and it was only a matter of time before players/agents started doing the same. It used to be automatic to opt out of the last year, but since teams aren’t spending like they did 2-3 years ago, I think fewer players will opt out.

Imo, he might just take 100 to 120 over 4 years because of his age. He'll be 31 at the start of the next season, he won't play better than his current level and it's a fairly weak free agency class.
Whatever he gets this summer will be the absolute most he can get.

[cutewizard]

That's a huge list

Hope GM Wright and staff are working overtime

This next season is crucial

[exstatic]

Imo, he might just take 100 to 120 over 4 years because of his age. He'll be 31 at the start of the next season, he won't play better than his current level and it's a fairly weak free agency class.
Whatever he gets this summer will be the absolute most he can get.

Who has the money to give him that contract, other than Brooklyn? If they don’t score Flagg, they will tank again next year to try to get their franchise guy. Minny also wants that money off their books, and would likely not be interested in trades should he opt out. It would be much better for Randle financially to wait for 2026, when a number of teams cleared cap for that FA class.

[LeBowen]

Who has the money to give him that contract, other than Brooklyn?

I always used to take into consideration available destinations in my trade posts, but with all the ridiculous moves that have happened as of late, anything is possible.
S&T would be a solid outcome for both sides, I just don't know who would Minnesota want in return? I wouldn't mind Randle for a couple of years, but I'm sure they wouldn't take any of our garbage.


If they don’t score Flagg, they will tank again next year to try to get their franchise guy.

I think Utah, Brooklyn and Wizards will tank again regardless of lottery outcome.

[exstatic]

I always used to take into consideration available destinations in my trade posts, but with all the ridiculous moves that have happened as of late, anything is possible.
S&T would be a solid outcome for both sides, I just don't know who would Minnesota want in return? I wouldn't mind Randle for a couple of years, but I'm sure they wouldn't take any of our garbage.



I think Utah, Brooklyn and Wizards will tank again regardless of lottery outcome.

Minnesota specifically did the trade so Randal would roll off their cap, either this summer or next. If they wanted to keep money on their books, they never would have traded KAT. It was a second apron cost cutting move, and they’re not going to want ANY money back if there is a trade. I think only Brooklyn could swing that.

People need to adjust their thinking. Everyone thought it was business as usual last summer, but both the LAC and GS held the line and let major roster pieces and former All Stars walk. If a player isn’t absolutely being contract raped, they need to hold onto whatever money they have remaining. There isn’t any out there.

[mo7888]

Minnesota specifically did the trade so Randal would roll off their cap, either this summer or next. If they wanted to keep money on their books, they never would have traded KAT. It was a second apron cost cutting move, and they’re not going to want ANY money back if there is a trade. I think only Brooklyn could swing that.

People need to adjust their thinking. Everyone thought it was business as usual last summer, but both the LAC and GS held the line and let major roster pieces and former All Stars walk. If a player isn’t absolutely being contract raped, they need to hold onto whatever money they have remaining. There isn’t any out there.

Do you think this thinking applies to Naz and John Collins and their specific situations?

[exstatic]

Do you think this thinking applies to Naz and John Collins and their specific situations?

Could very well be. Utah may be more amenable to a trade, but Naz is also a Minny roster guy.

[Ice009]

I don’t want Yab at all. He can’t defend and is a limited player on offence. He puts up “meh” numbers on a worse team than the spurs. No thanks.

Reid is likely not gettable but the more I look at it the more I think the spurs will go for an inside presence. Having another centre launch 50% of his shots from 3 will crowd up operating space for wemby. I’m actually thinking a player with a similar shot diet as Julius Randle who can defend and has a much smaller contract would work with wemby. Problem is I can’t find anyone like that. Perhaps the spurs think castle is that guy and will add complimentary shooting pieces around them. I’m not sure.

NAW is a good guy to get. Jaden mcdaniels would be a dream. I would like to have wiggins replace Vassell as well. But none of those are the inside presence tbe spurs are sorely lacking.

Yeah, you might be right about Yabusele. I still think he's a good player, but I am basing that on his Olympic play. I didn't watch him in Philly, just looked at stats and the game/s against the Spurs.

As for not getting another perimeter shooting big/center, what do you mean he'll take up Victor's space? Do you mean he'll occupy too much space out on the perimeter giving Victor less room to move around on the outside/perimeter?
That could also clog up the lane for other guys to drive inside (if the center can't shoot at all), and also, if Victor wants to go inside more, not sure how that would work if the other center can't shoot from the outside, or are you not intending this player to start? Good theory, though, I am just trying to look at it from other angles.

[LeBowen]

Minnesota specifically did the trade so Randal would roll off their cap, either this summer or next. If they wanted to keep money on their books, they never would have traded KAT. It was a second apron cost cutting move, and they’re not going to want ANY money back if there is a trade. I think only Brooklyn could swing that.

Things can happen during the season, Randle's play against the Lakers exceeded expectations, Warriors should be another good matchup for him, if he plays well again, it's going to force Minnesota to think about it.
KAT will make $22M more than Randle next season, that's also a factor.
I personally think that they preferred outcome would be keeping both Randle and Naz, with Gobert being traded. But there's no market for Gobert. They'd surely like to replace him with a cheaper rim protector like Poeltl for example.


People need to adjust their thinking. Everyone thought it was business as usual last summer, but both the LAC and GS held the line and let major roster pieces and former All Stars walk. If a player isn’t absolutely being contract raped, they need to hold onto whatever money they have remaining. There isn’t any out there.

Warriors offered Klay a 48/2 deal and he felt insulted. In the end he took less from the Mavs.
PG's max request was ridiculous and only Morey was dumb enough to offer him a 4 year deal.

[scott]

I'd love to trade for John Collins. Keldon + the 14th or maybe even a gang of 2nd round picks would get it done. But somehow I got the feeling that we won't break up the friendship crew. I also can't see us trading Barnes, because his leadership is very valuable for this squad.

Trading Barnes (our 4th best player, and one of the few we have that actually know how to play team basketball) to open up some cap space just so we can keep the Power of Friendship together would be a huge kick in the nuts.

[RC_Drunkford]

Trading Barnes (our 4th best player, and one of the few we have that actually know how to play team basketball) to open up some cap space just so we can keep the Power of Friendship together would be a huge kick in the nuts.

absolutely, but you never knew with our FO


There won't be enough minutes available if we add Collins and draft a forward.
Fox/Castle/Devin lineups will still be a thing and there are just 96 minutes available at forward positions. With Devin still being on the roster, ~80 is the best case scenario.
Even if we assume Collins plays ~15 minutes as Wemby's backup, he'd still play ~15 at PF.
Meaning there would be just ~65 minutes left for Barnes, Keldon, Jeremy, Champ and rookie(s). Someone has to go.

Barnes is a must keep because was our best and most reliable shooter, is the only veteran left on the team and is an expiring contract.
Champ is also a must keep because he costs nothing, won't complain about not playing enough minutes and he would add very little value in a trade.
Devin will surely (unfortunately) stay because they still believe in him.
So it's between Keldon and Jeremy who will be gone. If it was up to me, I'd trade both of them for Collins. I don't want to give an extension to a non-shooting forward.
Just think about it, how many of those are getting regular minutes in these playoffs? Exactly. Pushing him into a backup C role just hurts the team.

exactly my thoughts. One of them will have to go and if you ask me it's Keldon, but I'm not sure if our front office sees it the same way. I think they still want to keep Jeremy around. Another problem is that if we sign a rim running back up C a la Steven Adams, Sochan would even be unplayable as a bench player, cause he would mess up the spacing there as well. Btw I don't see John Collins as a legit option for back up C, he wasn't really successful at that position in the past.

I posted this in another thread:

I'm just looking for 3 things this offseason:

1. starting PF (most likely aquired via trade)

any of John Collins, Naz Reid, Jabari Smith Jr., Santi Aldama is good enough for that role.

2. Rotation wing (most likely drafted)

any of Jakucionas, Knueppel, Carter Bryant or Fleming. If it's 2 out of those 4 even better.

3. Back up Center (FA signing or draft pick)

singing someone like Steven Adams or drafting a big like Sorber for example

If we take care of these 3 positions I'm fine. That would also mean that at least one of Vassell, Keldon, Champagnie, Barnes or Sochan has to go.

[baseline bum]

I just can't see Naz becoming available; I think it's a pipe dream. Even if Randle doesn't opt out the Wolves are nearly $35 million under the second apron for next season and I doubt Naz is going to command the nearly $40 million a year it would take to put them in the second apron for 2025-26.

[exstatic]

Things can happen during the season, Randle's play against the Lakers exceeded expectations, Warriors should be another good matchup for him, if he plays well again, it's going to force Minnesota to think about it.
KAT will make $22M more than Randle next season, that's also a factor.
I personally think that they preferred outcome would be keeping both Randle and Naz, with Gobert being traded. But there's no market for Gobert. They'd surely like to replace him with a cheaper rim protector like Poeltl for example.



Warriors offered Klay a 48/2 deal and he felt insulted. In the end he took less from the Mavs.
PG's max request was ridiculous and only Morey was dumb enough to offer him a 4 year deal.

The point is, the teams held fast, and the players walked. In the past, the teams would have paid, or in PG’s case, given him the extra year, which was the only sticking point.

Look for more of that to happen.

[exstatic]

Things can happen during the season, Randle's play against the Lakers exceeded expectations, Warriors should be another good matchup for him, if he plays well again, it's going to force Minnesota to think about it.
KAT will make $22M more than Randle next season, that's also a factor.
I personally think that they preferred outcome would be keeping both Randle and Naz, with Gobert being traded. But there's no market for Gobert. They'd surely like to replace him with a cheaper rim protector like Poeltl for example.



Warriors offered Klay a 48/2 deal and he felt insulted. In the end he took less from the Mavs.
PG's max request was ridiculous and only Morey was dumb enough to offer him a 4 year deal.

The point of the trade was to keep DiVincenzo and discard Randle,dropping them below the second apron.

[TD 21]

I think they still want to keep Jeremy around. Another problem is that if we sign a rim running back up C a la Steven Adams, Sochan would even be unplayable as a bench player, cause he would mess up the spacing there as well. Btw I don't see John Collins as a legit option for back up C, he wasn't really successful at that position in the past.

1. starting PF (most likely aquired via trade)

any of John Collins, Naz Reid, Jabari Smith Jr., Santi Aldama is good enough for that role.

That, along with positional size/rebounding, is why I've been saying I expect Sochan to reclaim his starting spot next season at the expense of Castle.

All except Collins are more than likely pipe dreams and the former is the exact archetype they've long avoided at PF (a combo big, as opposed to wing-forward, who lacks lateral mobility and ball skills beyond spot up shooting).

Given that I think it's unlikely they go big with their natural pick and more likely with the Hawks pick, but unlikely to be a rotation player next season, these are the names I could see them having interest in: Lopez (suspect he signs with Warriors), Capela, Adams, Nance Jr., LaRavia (wing-forward), Plumlee, Kornet, Yabusele.

[LeBowen]

The point of the trade was to keep DiVincenzo and discard Randle,dropping them below the second apron.

As I said, that was the initial point, but if Randle continues playing like this, they're going to have to think hard about it.

[exstatic]

As I said, that was the initial point, but if Randle continues playing like this, they're going to have to think hard about it.

Randle is fools gold. He plays no defense, and his offense comes in occasional bursts. If they wanted that much salary going forward, they never would have traded KAT. They won’t even check the rear view mirror if he opts out. In spite of his good series vs. LA,his playoff numbers are subpar.

[LeBowen]

Randle is fools gold. He plays no defense, and his offense comes in occasional bursts.

That's why I said if he can continue his play. Lakers were a defensively bad team, but if he manages to have another ~22ppg series on good efficency against Draymond, then he's a good asset to have.


If they wanted that much salary going forward, they never would have traded KAT. They won’t even check the rear view mirror if he opts out. In spite of his good series vs. LA,his playoff numbers are subpar.

Yeah, he was pretty bad for the Knicks, that's why I made Dubious Handle jokes. He was a first option there, a role that's too much for him.
Ant seems to love him and he's a good complement if we're talking archetypes.
Ant/DiVincenzo/McDaniels/Randle/Naz lineup should be the most played against the Warriors, we'll see how it goes.

[ambchang]

Yeah, you might be right about Yabusele. I still think he's a good player, but I am basing that on his Olympic play. I didn't watch him in Philly, just looked at stats and the game/s against the Spurs.

As for not getting another perimeter shooting big/center, what do you mean he'll take up Victor's space? Do you mean he'll occupy too much space out on the perimeter giving Victor less room to move around on the outside/perimeter?
That could also clog up the lane for other guys to drive inside (if the center can't shoot at all), and also, if Victor wants to go inside more, not sure how that would work if the other center can't shoot from the outside, or are you not intending this player to start? Good theory, though, I am just trying to look at it from other angles.

Yeah, sorry about that as it was really unclear. I was just rambling.

What I meant is with another perimeter big wemby wouldn’t have as room to operate and also it is unnecessary. Wemby is already shooting. I always thought that it’s hard to build a fluid offence arounf wemby because he’s so big. If you put him up too you would have to clear both sides of the court because literally one step and he’s on the side lines. To give him room to operate I still think an offence with lots of cutting would work. Another thing is that we do need inside scoring, having a big (or a perimeter player who plays big) can allow the spurs to run an outside in offence with wemby taking the outside and once he draws the big out, allow the inside player to get easy buckets without any shot blockers in the paint.

The inside player should be able to shoot somewhat as to not clog up the lane and allow the spurs to also switch it to a cut heavy offence, with players like fox, castle and wemby initiating offence looking for cutters while they can drive to the basket. It could be a versatile offence that requires a lot of rad and react but to many peoples point, not sure we have the smart personnel to do it yet.

I’m not over ally worried about clogged lanes now. Really the only player who can’t shoot that gets regular minutes is sochan. While castle and to an extent fox may not be dead eye shooters, you’d still have to guard them.

[Obstructed_View]

Until he's too old or injured to play, I think Adams is a perfect pairing with Victor.

[Ice009]

Thanks for the clarification. That makes sense. I would not mind a big that can score inside, and you might be right that it could work better than having another big like mostly shoots. Very interesting which way the Spurs will go.

I'd also love Adams, but not sure if he's more a bench big or starter with Victor? Is he actually any good down low? How does he get the bulk of his offense?

[TeKu]

I'd also love Adams, but not sure if he's more a bench big or starter with Victor? Is he actually any good down low? How does he get the bulk of his offense?

The bulk of Adams offense impact comes from offensive rebounds and creating space for others. Fox/Castle/Vassell would love playing with him. Can't see Houston letting him go with his recent play though. His FT% would be right at home in SA.

[ambchang]

Adam’s would be nice. I’ve always loved his game, setting the best screens, boxing out his man so far westbrook can get his rebounds, decent passer, reliable roller.

The only qualms I have about him is that he hasn’t committed the first live murder in a sporting event on Tv, live, against Draymond. I don’t understand it, I’m pretty positive Adam’s can rip Draymond into two pieces like a piece of bbq chicken, but he just doesn’t do anything against anyone.

[tbdog]

I don't have a pulse on what the spurs are going to do this time. Usually I get a sense what they are looking for. Just by looking at rumours and following the team. This time I am really lost. I know that the Spurs will obtain a rotational center. I have no idea who that would be though.

[stnick2261]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=penVYQvjOxI

I wouldn't expect Adams to play big minutes, but I'd love to pick him up anyway.

[widowmaker]

Just for reference, here's a list of all NBA Free Agents in 2025.

NBA Free Agents
Tracking the status and signings of all NBA free agents.
SEASON

TEAM

POSITON

FREE AGENT TYPE


AVAILABLE
entries per page
PLAYER (202) POS AGE YOE PREV TEAM PREV AAV TYPE
LeBron James PF 40.3 22 LAL $50,677,999
PLAYER / $52.6M
Fred VanVleet PG 31.2 9 HOU $42,846,615
CLUB / $44.9M
Kyrie Irving PG 33.1 14 DAL $40,000,000
PLAYER / $44.0M
James Harden SG 35.7 15 LAC $35,000,000
PLAYER / $36.3M
Khris Middleton SF 33.7 13 WAS $31,000,000
PLAYER / $34.0M
Julius Randle PF 30.4 11 MIN $29,272,320
PLAYER / $30.9M
John Collins PF 27.6 8 UTA $25,000,000
PLAYER / $26.6M
Brook Lopez C 37.1 17 MIL $24,000,000
UFA / Bird
Clint Capela C 30.9 11 ATL $22,940,640
UFA / Bird
Bruce Brown Jr. SG 28.7 7 NOP $22,500,000
UFA / Early Bird
Malcolm Brogdon PG 32.3 9 WAS $22,500,000
UFA / Bird
Myles Turner C 29.1 10 IND $20,451,750
UFA / Bird
Tim Hardaway Jr. SG 33.1 12 DET $18,750,000
UFA / Bird
Duncan Robinson SF 31.0 7 MIA $18,000,000
OPT-OUT / $19.9M
D'Angelo Russell PG 29.2 10 BKN $18,000,000
UFA / Bird
Caris LeVert SG 30.7 9 ATL $16,000,000
UFA / Bird
Luke Kennard SG 28.8 8 MEM $14,000,000
UFA / Bird
Naz Reid C 25.7 6 MIN $13,986,432
PLAYER / $15.0M
Dorian Finney-Smith PF 32.0 9 LAL $13,890,240
PLAYER / $15.4M
Dennis Schröder PG 31.6 12 DET $12,715,125
UFA / Early Bird
Steven Adams C 31.8 12 HOU $12,600,000
UFA / Bird
Marvin Bagley III PF 26.1 7 MEM $12,500,000
UFA / Bird
Bobby Portis PF 30.2 10 MIL $12,144,552
PLAYER / $13.4M
Chris Boucher PF 32.2 8 TOR $11,750,000
UFA / Bird
Matisse Thybulle SG 28.2 6 POR $11,025,000
PLAYER / $11.6M
Moritz Wagner C 28.0 7 ORL $11,000,000
CLUB / $11.0M
Joe Ingles SF 37.6 11 ORL $11,000,000
UFA / Non-Bird
Larry Nance Jr. PF 32.3 10 ATL $10,790,000
UFA / Bird
Chris Paul PG 39.9 20 SAS $10,460,000
UFA / Non-Bird
Al Horford C 38.9 18 BOS $9,750,000
UFA / Bird
Tre Jones PG 25.2 5 CHI $9,500,000
UFA / Bird
Pat Connaughton SG 32.2 10 MIL $9,423,869
PLAYER / $9.4M
Gary Payton II PG 32.4 9 GSW $8,715,000
UFA / Bird
Kelly Oubre Jr. SF 29.3 10 PHI $8,182,575
PLAYER / $8.4M
Jeff Green PF 38.7 18 HOU $8,000,000
UFA / Early Bird
Trey Lyles PF 29.5 10 SAC $8,000,000
UFA / Bird
Vasilije Micic PG 31.2 2 PHX $7,851,717
CLUB / $8.1M
Gary Harris SG 30.6 11 ORL $7,500,000
CLUB / $7.5M
Kevon Looney C 29.2 10 GSW $7,500,000
UFA / Bird
Jae’Sean Tate SF 29.5 5 HOU $6,876,811
UFA / Bird
Josh Giddey SG 22.5 4 CHI $6,803,702
RFA / Bird
Jevon Carter PG 29.6 7 CHI $6,500,000
PLAYER / $6.8M
Jonathan Kuminga PF 22.5 4 GSW $6,213,837
RFA / Bird
Precious Achiuwa PF 25.6 5 NYK $6,000,000
UFA / Bird
Malik Beasley SG 28.4 9 DET $6,000,000
UFA / Non-Bird
Dario Saric PF 31.0 9 DEN $5,297,200
PLAYER / $5.4M
Davion Mitchell PG 26.7 4 MIA $5,237,879
RFA / Bird
Andre Drummond C 31.7 13 PHI $5,000,000
PLAYER / $5.0M
Ziaire Williams SF 23.6 4 BKN $4,976,981
RFA / Bird
Nicolas Batum SF 36.3 17 LAC $4,784,700
PLAYER / $4.9M
Aaron Holiday PG 28.6 7 HOU $4,784,700
CLUB / $4.9M
Nickeil Alexander-Walker SG 26.7 6 MIN $4,500,000
UFA / Bird
Dwight Powell C 33.8 11 DAL $4,000,000
PLAYER / $4.0M
Jake LaRavia PF 23.5 3 SAC $3,690,842
UFA / Bird
Amir Coffey SG 27.8 6 LAC $3,666,667
UFA / Bird
Tre Mann PG 24.2 4 CHA $3,511,803
RFA / Bird
Russell Westbrook PG 36.4 17 DEN $3,386,366
PLAYER / $3.5M
Cory Joseph PG 33.7 13 ORL $3,386,366
CLUB / $3.5M
Eric Gordon SG 36.3 17 PHI $3,386,366
PLAYER / $3.5M
Doug McDermott SF 33.3 11 SAC $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
Markieff Morris PF 35.7 14 LAL $3,303,771
UFA / Bird
Tristan Thompson C 34.1 14 CLE $3,303,771
UFA / Early Bird
Patty Mills PG 36.7 16 LAC $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
James Johnson PF 38.2 15 IND $3,303,771
UFA / Bird
Spencer Dinwiddie PG 32.0 11 DAL $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
Seth Curry SG 34.7 12 CHA $3,303,771
UFA / Early Bird
Taj Gibson C 39.8 16 CHA $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
Kyle Lowry PG 39.1 19 PHI $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
Alec Burks SG 33.8 14 MIA $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
Garrett Temple SG 38.9 15 TOR $3,303,771
UFA / Early Bird
Mason Plumlee C 35.2 12 PHX $3,303,771
UFA / Non-Bird
DeAndre Jordan C 36.8 17 DEN $3,303,771
UFA / Bird
Dante Exum PG 29.8 9 DAL $3,075,000
UFA / Early Bird
Isaiah Jackson PF 23.2 4 IND $3,039,165
RFA / Bird
Tyus Jones PG 28.9 10 PHX $3,003,427
UFA / Non-Bird
Cameron Payne PG 30.7 10 NYK $3,003,427
UFA / Non-Bird
Delon Wright PG 33.0 10 NYK $3,003,427
UFA / Non-Bird
Ajay Mitchell PG 22.8 1 OKC $3,000,000
CLUB / $3.0M
Taurean Prince PF 31.1 9 MIL $2,988,550
UFA / Non-Bird
Ariel Hukporti C 23.0 1 NYK $2,872,666
CLUB / $2.0M
Monte Morris PG 29.8 8 PHX $2,800,834
UFA / Non-Bird
Luke Kornet C 29.8 8 BOS $2,800,834
UFA / Bird
Quentin Grimes SG 24.9 4 PHI $2,782,011
RFA / Bird
Trendon Watford PF 24.4 4 BKN $2,726,603
UFA / Early Bird
Thomas Bryant C 27.8 8 IND $2,686,788
UFA / Non-Bird
Damion Lee SG 32.5 8 PHX $2,686,788
UFA / Early Bird
Jae Crowder SF 34.8 13 SAC $2,620,232
UFA / Non-Bird
Cameron Thomas SG 23.5 4 BKN $2,613,962
RFA / Bird
Gary Trent Jr. SG 26.2 7 MIL $2,613,120
UFA / Non-Bird
Day'Ron Sharpe C 23.4 4 BKN $2,579,451
RFA / Bird
Santi Aldama C 24.2 4 MEM $2,560,843
RFA / Bird
Justin Edwards SG 21.3 1 PHI $2,553,451
CLUB / $2.0M
Ty Jerome SG 27.8 6 CLE $2,500,000
UFA / Early Bird
Talen Horton-Tucker SG 24.4 6 CHI $2,425,403
UFA / Non-Bird
Jordan McLaughlin PG 29.0 6 SAS $2,425,403
UFA / Non-Bird
Bol Bol PF 25.4 6 PHX $2,425,403
UFA / Early Bird
Tristan Vukcevic C 22.1 2 WAS $2,424,892
RFA / Two-Way
Kevin Porter Jr. PG 25.0 5 MIL $2,392,183
PLAYER / $2.5M
Jaxson Hayes C 24.9 6 NOP $2,314,473
UFA / Bird
Vlatko Cancar PF 28.0 6 DEN $2,271,775
UFA / Bird
Keon Johnson SG 23.1 4 BKN $2,256,092
CLUB / $2.3M
Luka Garza C 26.3 4 MIN $2,256,092
CLUB / $2.3M
Sandro Mamukelashvili C 25.9 4 SAS $2,162,606
UFA / Non-Bird
Charles Bassey C 24.5 4 SAS $2,162,606
UFA / Bird
Dalano Banton PG 25.4 4 POR $2,108,338
UFA / Early Bird
AJ Green SG 25.6 3 MIL $2,108,016
UFA / Bird
Guerschon Yabusele PF 29.3 3 PHI $2,087,519
UFA / Non-Bird
Caleb Houstan SF 22.2 3 ORL $2,051,850
CLUB / $2.2M
Jericho Sims C 26.5 4 MIL $1,886,069
UFA / Bird
Lonnie Walker IV SG 26.3 7 PHI $1,860,904
CLUB / $2.9M
P.J. Tucker PF 40.0 14 NYK $1,857,897
CLUB / $3.5M
Antonio Reeves SG 24.4 1 NOP $1,802,934
RFA / Bird
Rayan Rupert SG 20.9 2 POR $1,744,366
CLUB / $2.2M
Josh Minott SF 22.4 3 MIN $1,736,199
CLUB / $2.2M
Gui Santos SF 22.8 2 GSW $1,714,339
CLUB / $2.2M
Keon Ellis SF 25.2 3 SAC $1,701,903
CLUB / $2.3M
Landry Shamet SG 28.1 7 NYK $1,682,008
UFA / Bird
JT Thor PF 22.7 4 WAS $1,659,553
RFA / Two-Way
Jalen Wilson PF 24.5 2 BKN $1,654,511
CLUB / $2.2M
Tony Bradley C 27.2 7 IND $1,635,635
CLUB / $2.9M
Elfrid Payton PG 31.2 9 NOP $1,602,563
CLUB / $3.2M
Jabari Walker SF 22.8 3 POR $1,585,781
RFA / Bird
Jared Butler PG 24.7 4 PHI $1,547,652
CLUB / $2.3M
Paul Reed C 25.8 5 DET $1,530,375
UFA / Non-Bird
Lindy Waters III SF 27.8 4 DET $1,481,533
UFA / Bird
Brandon Boston Jr SG 23.4 4 NOP $1,473,080
CLUB / $2.3M
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl PF 24.5 4 NOP $1,422,907
UFA / Bird
Tyrese Martin SF 26.1 2 BKN $1,413,875
CLUB / $2.2M
Dominick Barlow PF 21.9 3 ATL $1,381,311
CLUB / $2.3M
Keshad Johnson PF 23.8 1 MIA $1,340,130
CLUB / $2.0M
Chuma Okeke PF 26.7 5 CLE $1,331,209
CLUB / $2.5M
Stanley Umude G 26.0 3 DET $1,329,577
RFA / Two-Way
Jordan Goodwin PG 26.5 4 LAL $1,286,648
CLUB / $2.3M
Quinten Post C 25.1 1 GSW $1,197,149
CLUB / $2.0M
Alex Len C 31.8 12 LAL $1,177,206
UFA / Non-Bird
Jeff Dowtin PG 27.9 4 PHI $1,162,327
RFA / Two-Way
J.D. Davison PG 22.6 3 BOS $1,141,366
CLUB / $2.3M
Kai Jones PF 24.2 4 DAL $1,104,289
RFA / Two-Way
Ben Simmons PG 28.8 9 LAC $1,082,061
UFA / Non-Bird
Isaac Jones C 24.8 1 SAC $1,054,167
CLUB / $2.0M
Torrey Craig SF 34.3 8 BOS $1,046,289
UFA / Non-Bird
Drew Timme F 24.6 1 BKN $1,034,216
CLUB / $2.0M
Markelle Fultz PG 26.9 8 SAC $981,902
RFA / Non-Bird
Bismack Biyombo C 32.7 14 SAS $797,462
UFA / Non-Bird
Javonte Green SG 31.8 6 CLE $696,955
UFA / Non-Bird
MarJon Beauchamp SG 24.5 3 NYK $514,970
RFA / Two-Way
Ryan Rollins SG 22.8 3 MIL $491,887
RFA / Two-Way
Pat Spencer G 28.8 2 GSW $438,810
RFA / Non-Bird
Lamar Stevens SF 27.8 5 MEM $411,529
UFA / Early Bird
Kevin Knox SF 25.7 7 GSW $330,394
UFA / Non-Bird
Braxton Key SF 28.2 3 GSW $11,997
UFA / Non-Roster Invite
David Roddy PF 24.1 3 PHI $11,997
RFA / Two-Way
Branden Carlson C 25.8 1 OKC $6,538
RFA / Two-Way
Anton Watson PF 24.5 1 NYK $0
RFA / Two-Way
Miles Norris PF 25.0 2 BOS $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jacob Toppin SF 24.9 2 ATL $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jalen Hood-Schifino PG 21.8 2 PHI $0
RFA / Two-Way
Nah'Shon Hyland PG 24.6 4 MIN $0
UFA / Two-Way
Taran Armstrong G 23.2 1 GSW $0
RFA / Two-Way
Wendell Moore Jr. SG 23.8 3 CHA $0
RFA / Two-Way
Keion Brooks Jr. SF 1 NOP $0
RFA / Two-Way
Tristen Newton PG 24.0 1 MIN $0
RFA / Two-Way
Emanuel Miller SF 24.8 1 CHI $0
RFA / Two-Way
Isaiah Stevens PG 24.5 1 MIA $0
RFA / Two-Way
Boo Buie G 25.3 1 NYK $0
RFA / Two-Way
Yuki Kawamura G 24.0 1 MEM $0
RFA / Two-Way
Mac McClung PG 26.2 3 ORL $0
RFA / Two-Way
Christian Koloko C 24.8 2 LAL $0
RFA / Two-Way
E.J. Liddell PF 24.3 3 CHI $0
RFA / Two-Way
Emoni Bates SG 21.2 2 CLE $0
RFA / Two-Way
Kessler Edwards SF 24.7 4 SAC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Micah Potter C 27.0 4 UTA $0
RFA / Two-Way
Kevin McCullar Jr. SG 24.1 1 NYK $0
RFA / Two-Way
TyTy Washington Jr. PG 23.4 3 PHX $0
RFA
Spencer Jones SF 23.8 1 DEN $0
RFA / Two-Way
Harrison Ingram SF 22.4 1 SAS $0
RFA / Non-Bird
David Duke Jr. SG 25.5 4 SAS $0
RFA / Two-Way
Quenton Jackson G 26.6 3 IND $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jack McVeigh F 28.8 1 HOU $0
RFA / Two-Way
Josh Christopher SG 23.3 3 MIA $0
RFA / Two-Way
Trentyn Flowers F 20.1 1 LAC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Riley Minix SF 24.6 1 SAS $0
RFA / Two-Way
Alex Ducas G 24.3 1 OKC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Keaton Wallace G 26.2 2 ATL $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jamal Cain SF 26.1 3 NOP $0
RFA / Two-Way
Bryce McGowens SG 22.4 3 POR $0
RFA / Two-Way
P.J. Hall PF 23.2 1 DEN $0
RFA / Two-Way
N'Faly Dante PF 23.5 1 HOU $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jesse Edwards C 25.1 1 MIN $0
RFA / Two-Way
Cam Spencer SG 25.0 1 MEM $0
RFA / Two-Way
Daniss Jenkins G 23.7 1 DET $0
RFA / Two-Way
Reece Beekman PG 23.5 1 BKN $0
RFA / Two-Way
Drew Peterson F 25.4 2 BOS $0
RFA / Two-Way
Trey Alexander SG 22.0 1 DEN $0
RFA / Two-Way
Isaiah Crawford G 23.5 1 SAC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Jalen Bridges SG 23.9 1 PHX $0
RFA / Two-Way
Dru Smith SG 27.3 2 MIA $0
RFA / Two-Way
Collin Gillespie PG 25.8 3 PHX $0
RFA / Two-Way
Justin Minaya F 26.1 3 POR $0
RFA / Two-Way
Adam Flagler G 25.4 2 OKC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Mason Jones SG 26.8 4 SAC $0
RFA / Two-Way
Troy Brown Jr. SG 25.8 7 DET
UFA / Early Bird




That whole fucking list of dudes and people around here are going to be "bring in trey lyles, garret temple and cory joseph"

[cutewizard]

Guys

If we cannot get Naz, then is there a world where we acquire the following:
1) Adams
2) Kon
3) Cameron J, and
4) Yabusele

Plus, jettison the three friends?

[scott]

Stephen Adams is one of those guys who I’ve always thought would be a perfect Spur, but never made it to our team (JJ Reddick was one of these guys when he was still playing as well). I’d love to see him join us, especially now that it looks like he’s healthy again (earlier in the year he couldn’t play much)… but I don’t want to get my hopes up too much.

[spurraider21]

Adams is about to turn 32. he's not young, but he's not really on the verge of being washed. on a 2 year deal he should be fine.

[LeBowen]

Tbh, Adams and John Collins would be perfect.

Collins is a PF who can play some backup C minutes against small lineups if needed.
Adams is a veteran presence we need and won't complain if he doesn't play much in some games.

We just need to get rid of Jeremy. For both Spurs and his sake.

[scott]

My dream scenario for backup C is that we sign Adams and resign CBass. Charles could learn to model his game after the Kiwi and maybe have a chance to save his career as a third stringer who only needs to fill in when Adams needs a day off, which might give Charles' knees a chance to not betray him for once.

Adams if from Rotorua, one of the stinkiest civilized places on earth because of the geothermal activity (but still a super cool and beautiful place) :lol No wonder he's such a tough SOB.

[spurraider21]

what about Luke Kornet

[RC_Drunkford]

what about Luke Kornet

I think he’s definitely a target for back up C

[objective]

He's washed as a starter

But I would like Brook Lopez as a back up center. Could play with Wemby against big lineups.

[Arguendo]

I just can't see Naz becoming available; I think it's a pipe dream. Even if Randle doesn't opt out the Wolves are nearly $35 million under the second apron for next season and I doubt Naz is going to command the nearly $40 million a year it would take to put them in the second apron for 2025-26.
Where are you getting your salary numbers? I'm looking at Sportrac, they'll have $12.804M with all options exercised, Naz surely opts out so that's another $15.022M, and they have $2.35M + $2.19M + $2.2M they can cut/decline= that's $34.57M under the 2nd apron with only 9 guys rostered, and Conley/Dillingham as the only PGs. Conley will be 39 & Dilly didn't answer a single question if he can be a rotation player, much less a 24+mpg guy.
That's less than $35M to fill out 6 poster spots and with only 6 rotation guys rostered after Naz and NWA. Without a trade and with Randle, best case they get Naz for $25M, and have $9.57Mish to fill 5 roster spots.
They gotta do something, Donte @ $12M and Dilly at $6.5M are prolly the only movable salaries.
Jaden is owed $110M over the next 4 yrs, plus D but way below avg 3% and Ast%, and just average Reb%. Ruby is unmovable, Conley likely same given PG situ, Ant is franchise.

[pookenstein]

If he recovers well from the torn ACL I wouldn't mind signing Mo Wagner for cheap for two or three years. Something in the ballpark of 24-30M/3.

[RC_Drunkford]

If he recovers well from the torn ACL I wouldn't mind signing Mo Wagner for cheap for two or three years. Something in the ballpark of 24-30M/3.

ACL recovery takes a full year and another full season of play. You'd pay him only to have him play at his previous production in 2027..

[buttsR4rebounding]

Where are you getting your salary numbers? I'm looking at Sportrac, they'll have $12.804M with all options exercised, Naz surely opts out so that's another $15.022M, and they have $2.35M + $2.19M + $2.2M they can cut/decline= that's $34.57M under the 2nd apron with only 9 guys rostered, and Conley/Dillingham as the only PGs. Conley will be 39 & Dilly didn't answer a single question if he can be a rotation player, much less a 24+mpg guy.
That's less than $35M to fill out 6 poster spots and with only 6 rotation guys rostered after Naz and NWA. Without a trade and with Randle, best case they get Naz for $25M, and have $9.57Mish to fill 5 roster spots.
They gotta do something, Donte @ $12M and Dilly at $6.5M are prolly the only movable salaries.
Jaden is owed $110M over the next 4 yrs, plus D but way below avg 3% and Ast%, and just average Reb%. Ruby is unmovable, Conley likely same given PG situ, Ant is franchise.

If Randle opts in and they pick up the options on Garza and Minot they can sign Naz to just under $30 million and stay under the 2nd apron which will be a little over $207 million. That will be 13 players.

[Arguendo]

If Randle opts in and they pick up the options on Garza and Minot they can sign Naz to just under $30 million and stay under the 2nd apron which will be a little over $207 million. That will be 13 players.
Sure and I think Naz gets around $30M.
But that rotation of Ant-Donte-McD-31 y/o Randle- 33y/o Gobert-Naz-38 y/o Conley and Dillingham who played 500 minutes this yr. No depth, very old/very unproven PGs. Got 26mpg/g to replace from NWA.
Thin. So thin that one roatation player injury could = lottery for a pick they don't control.

They'd also have to trade the 17th pick and its $4.2M money for a future pick and you have to factor in minimum salaries for the Aprons. If they pay Naz $30M and trade the 17th without taking back salary and sign two rookie minimum guys to get to 15 @ $1.157 each, they're still over the 2nd apron.

They have get Naz to take a big discount, let him go, and/or make a trade to stay under the 2nd Apron. Otherwise the math doesn't work assuming Randle opts in.
If they keep/roster the 17th and roster a rookie minimum and a vet minimum @ $2.09M, they can only pay Naz about $22.5M.
Not many teams can get to $30M in capspace, but Bkn and likely Det can, and Mem/Chi/Hou/NOP can likely get to $25M and make him a starter. Naz grew up in Jersey and went to LSU, while Det/Hou looks better moving forward and anyone that gets Cooper from that group likely has a better long-term future compared to an Apron'd Minny Ant-Gobert-McD team.

They gotta make a trade this summer, probably multiple because they'd have to take back 90% of any outgoing salary. Or just be a 2nd Apron team again.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

Sure and I think Naz gets around $30M.
But that rotation of Ant-Donte-McD-31 y/o Randle- 33y/o Gobert-Naz-38 y/o Conley and Dillingham who played 500 minutes this yr. No depth, very old/very unproven PGs. Got 26mpg/g to replace from NWA.
Thin. So thin that one roatation player injury could = lottery for a pick they don't control.

They'd also have to trade the 17th pick and its $4.2M money for a future pick and you have to factor in minimum salaries for the Aprons. If they pay Naz $30M and trade the 17th without taking back salary and sign two rookie minimum guys to get to 15 @ $1.157 each, they're still over the 2nd apron.

They have get Naz to take a big discount, let him go, and/or make a trade to stay under the 2nd Apron. Otherwise the math doesn't work assuming Randle opts in.
If they keep/roster the 17th and roster a rookie minimum and a vet minimum @ $2.09M, they can only pay Naz about $22.5M.
Not many teams can get to $30M in capspace, but Bkn and likely Det can, and Mem/Chi/Hou/NOP can likely get to $25M and make him a starter. Naz grew up in Jersey and went to LSU, while Det/Hou looks better moving forward and anyone that gets Cooper from that group likely has a better long-term future compared to an Apron'd Minny Ant-Gobert-McD team.

They gotta make a trade this summer, probably multiple because they'd have to take back 90% of any outgoing salary. Or just be a 2nd Apron team again.

Thank you for the numbers!

I would love to offer Naz $30 million and hopefully Wolves let him go.

He is exactly the big we need.

[poopbox]

Stephen Adams is one of those guys who I’ve always thought would be a perfect Spur, but never made it to our team (JJ Reddick was one of these guys when he was still playing as well). I’d love to see him join us, especially now that it looks like he’s healthy again (earlier in the year he couldn’t play much)… but I don’t want to get my hopes up too much.

One of the few players who showed up for the Rockets in the playoffs so would probably have to outbid for him. Think Houston will try and bring him back. They don't have any other person on their team who can control the glass like he does.

[CGD]

Was reading one of the gossip sights suggesting Orlando have a decision to make on Mo Wagner. He’s injured now, and they own a team option they have to decide on by 06/29. Someone to watch for the backup C role.

[exstatic]

Was reading one of the gossip sights suggesting Orlando have a decision to make on Mo Wagner. He’s injured now, and they own a team option they have to decide on by 06/29. Someone to watch for the backup C role.

Fritz would be pissed if they offload his bro.

[cutewizard]

Do you like Alex Caruso guys?

[exstatic]

Do you like Alex Caruso guys?

I think he’s done good work, but could be past his sell by date.

[KobesAchilles]

What about Jake Laravia? He has good athleticism and size and is a good shooter and decent rebounder. I’d like to have him coming off the bench for us. He should be relatively cheap.

[Bruno]

Getting Harper quite change who I think Spurs should go after in FA/trade.

Will Spurs have a big enough offensive place for player like Naz Reid, Cam Johnson or Santi Aldama ?

It's far from sure and Spurs might be better going after players with a lower offensive usage. Instead of targeting a 15ppg player, they might be better with a 10ppg player who is a stronger defender/rebounder.

[Bruno]

There are some rumors about NBA teams being interested in one of the best Euroleague player named Nigel Hayes. I'm not sure how his defense would translate in NBA but he seems like a good fit with Spurs.

[RC_Drunkford]

Well the Spurs would need to pull another rabbit out the hat. The market for young 3-and-D forwards is pretty slim nowadays

[scott]

What about Jake Laravia? He has good athleticism and size and is a good shooter and decent rebounder. I’d like to have him coming off the bench for us. He should be relatively cheap.

Been a huge Laravia backer for awhile and I'd love to add him in a theoretical SF rotation with Barnes and Champ in a scenario where we take Harper and move Devin and Keldon. Should cost less than the MLE. I know SAC would love to keep him, but they can't offer him more than his declined 4th year option of $5MM/yr.

[CorrectCrusader]

I would go after Luke Kornet

[KobesAchilles]

Been a huge Laravia backer for awhile and I'd love to add him in a theoretical SF rotation with Barnes and Champ in a scenario where we take Harper and move Devin and Keldon. Should cost less than the MLE. I know SAC would love to keep him, but they can't offer him more than his declined 4th year option of $5MM/yr.
I don’t really understand cap stuff that well but is there a way to split the MLE between him and another player say like Kornet and we get two birds with one stone type of deal? Bc I think are both what this team needs

[scott]

I don’t really understand cap stuff that well but is there a way to split the MLE between him and another player say like Kornet and we get two birds with one stone type of deal? Bc I think are both what this team needs

Yes, we can

[Darkwaters]

I don’t really understand cap stuff that well but is there a way to split the MLE between him and another player say like Kornet and we get two birds with one stone type of deal? Bc I think are both what this team needs

Teams typically don't split their MLE, but you absolutely can. If I recall, the Spurs did it recently (last couple of seasons).

[Ice009]

There are some rumors about NBA teams being interested in one of the best Euroleague player named Nigel Hayes. I'm not sure how his defense would translate in NBA but he seems like a good fit with Spurs.

What sort of player is Nigel Hayes? What position? Is he a FA, or will his team let him out of his contract if he gets an NBA offer?

[LeBowen]

I would go after Luke Kornet

Celtics fans love him. Good rim protector, high IQ, great short roll passer.
Idk how much will he ask for.

Another Celtic I'd consider is Hauser.
6'8, 42% career 3pt shooter, 27 years old, under contract up until 2029 for 10 to 12 million a year.
Their '28 swap we own just got more value, but there's no way they'll be out of the playoffs even if Tatum doesn't get back to his current level.

[ace3g]

Guerschon Yabusele




Naz Reid

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MhDAdKRA6U

[cutewizard]

Is that legit? Markkanen

[cd98]

I like Markkanen on the Spurs, but only on a reasonable price tag, which is now the MO of Danny Ainge.

[CGD]

I thought we had exorcised all you Markenen people after he signed that contract…

If Utah wants to send us #5, 2 future FRPs, and the Markenen albatross for Harper, Keldon, and filler, then we can start a convo.

[CGD]

Guerschon Yabusele




Naz Reid



Yabu is the way.

[exstatic]

I thought we had exorcised all you Markenen people after he signed that contract…

If Utah wants to send us #5, 2 future FRPs, and the Markenen albatross for Harper, Keldon, and filler, then we can start a convo.

That’s when I tapped out. He was complicit in rigging it so he couldn’t be traded this year.

[Bruno]

What sort of player is Nigel Hayes? What position? Is he a FA, or will his team let him out of his contract if he gets an NBA offer?

30 Years old SF/PF, 6'7"/6'8" with a 7'3" wingspan.
He has been on the first Euroleague team in the last two season. Great shooter, quite complete offensive player, decent athlete, fine defender, he is just a really nice player in Europe.

He is under contract in Turkey but has reportedly a NBA buyout. His team's GM said there were NBA interest in him and that they would let him go if it is what he want.

[Bruno]

Regarding Yabusele, Sixers adding the 3rd pick rookie scale salary to their payroll complicates the re-signing of Yabusele for them. Sixers might only be able to offer him the taxpayer MLE, especially if they decide to re-sign Grimes.

[HankChinaski]

If you trade back with Utah get John Collins not Lauri plus #5 and whatever else you can get for #2 and fillers from us.

[mo7888]

If you trade back with Utah get John Collins not Lauri plus #5 and whatever else you can get for #2 and fillers from us.

There's no world in which I'd trade #2 for #5 + Collins.

[Dverde]

Any takers for 39 year old Al Horford? Boston probably moves on from him with JT’s injury.

[cd98]

No one on that Jazz roster is worth trading down. They would need to give up up stuff. Markennan is a nice player, but he ain't worth a lottery pick. Dude has mostly been an eh player for his career with one all-star season on the Jazz and then a bunch of injury seasons. Yes, maybe he was injured so the Jazz could tank, but his salary plus the ransom Ainge would demand do not make sense for the Spurs. I'd rather see them throw money at Naz.

[spurraider21]

i dont really care for Yabusele tbh. nice story, and if he signs for cheap-ish like at the BAE level thats fine. i dont think hes good enough to justify much more. he's also 29

[CGD]

If you trade back with Utah get John Collins not Lauri plus #5 and whatever else you can get for #2 and fillers from us.

Come on man

[HankChinaski]

There's no world in which I'd trade #2 for #5 + Collins.

I meant multiple picks not just five from this year.
Just five and Collins would be a no go.

[exstatic]

I meant multiple picks not just five from this year.
Just five and Collins would be a no go.

Hoping for another 1,2 when we have one in hand? No thanks.

[RC_Drunkford]

Nic Batum would actually be a decent vet. He has a player option for about 5 million this summer.

[Mugen]

Luke Kennard tbh

[exstatic]

Nic Batum would actually be a decent vet. He has a player option for about 5 million this summer.

His wife wanted LA, NY, or back to France.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibaVebJclQ0

[mo7888]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibaVebJclQ0

I'm out on 3 1st's + Devin + Keldon for KD

[Chillen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibaVebJclQ0

I would do that trade as long as we keep #2 and #14 in this years draft. Basically Castle and Harper would replace Vassell and Johnson. Phoenix is hungry for future draft picks obviously.

[Guru of Nothing]

Luke Kornet 8-9-1 in 20 minutes with 6 blocks, so far.

[Guru of Nothing]

7 blocks

[Guru of Nothing]

And now a reverse jam on a lob

[mystargtr34]

Luke Kornet would be an excellent backup C option. Been impressed with him all season when I watched the Celtics. Didn’t even realise he was a FA until his name was brought up in this thread.

No way the Celtics can retain him surely with their payroll and still having Porzingis, Queta, Tillman under contract and likely re-signing Horford.

What are we thinking Kornet market value is? 3/$30M?

[cd98]

No one is giving first round picks for Durant. There is no need to. Suns need to trade Durant because they are capped out and are paying a fortune for a non-playoff team. They just hope to get some young players back, but literally no reason to trade draft picks unless you want to send a bunch of 2nd rounders.

[cutewizard]

Guys

This has to be one of the great offseasons in Spurs history

Almost an infinity of possibilities

Incredible!

[CGD]

The Suns will be in a for rude awaking once they see the offers for KD. We keep treating Keldon and Vassell like salary filler here, but they have value on their own. Not sure why we’d toss in 3 FRP on top of that.

Like HOW much better of an offer is out there for KD than DV/KJ/14 right now?

[dubross]

The Suns will be in a for rude awaking once they see the offers for KD. We keep treating Keldon and Vassell like salary filler here, but they have value on their own. Not sure why we’d toss in 3 FRP on top of that.

Like HOW much better of an offer is out there for KD than DV/KJ/14 right now?

The Rockets can do better with their lottery pick and Jabari smith and at least one of their picks back

[mo7888]

The Rockets can do better with their lottery pick and Jabari smith and at least one of their picks back

But they can't absorb that much salary. They'd have to include Sengun, Green, or FVF as well and maybe Brooks to make the salaries work.

[LeBowen]

A lot of teams can do better, the thing is that they don't want to.

Imo, Nuggets would be the best fit for KD.
MPJ, FRP and salary filler. Suns wouldn't add any extra years compared to KD's contract.

[CGD]

The Rockets can do better with their lottery pick and Jabari smith and at least one of their picks back

I think Houston will find that too rich honestly. Plus as noted before they need to make the math work.

[montgod]

Luke Kornet would be an excellent backup C option. Been impressed with him all season when I watched the Celtics. Didn’t even realise he was a FA until his name was brought up in this thread.

No way the Celtics can retain him surely with their payroll and still having Porzingis, Queta, Tillman under contract and likely re-signing Horford.

What are we thinking Kornet market value is? 3/$30M?

I'd be open to Kornet being a good addition. Hauser might also be available since Celts will be trying to shed some salary this summer.

[exstatic]

The Rockets can do better with their lottery pick and Jabari smith and at least one of their picks back

Houston’s lottery pick IS one of the Suns picks. Doubt they want to give two of them back for KD.

[RC_Drunkford]

1923009143801094176

[cd98]

1923009143801094176


Maybe Hawks could trade for him if they had their draft picks :)

[Dverde]

Maybe Hawks could trade for him if they had their draft picks :)
I wouldn’t mind having Okongwu, maybe a deal could be worked out

[Ice009]

Does Ron Harper Jr. have any potential? Anybody actually know anything about him? I thought he was a guard, but I looked up his profile and seems that he's a SF/PF. At 6'6," seems he has a bit of weight on him as he's listed at 245lbs. Not saying I want him or anything, I was just a bit surprised to see he's a SF/PF, as without knowing anything about him, I assumed he was a SG/PG.

Luke Kornet looked really good in Boston's game 5 win the other day. I was impressed with his play, so I'd definitely be interested in getting him. I figured he was a free agent since fans here have been mentioning him. Good looking out on that one. Definitely a possibility along with Steven Adams IMO. I think it would come down to cost. I'd probably rather Kornet due to his age, but Adam's toughness along with his screen setting really have me kind of excited. I just wonder what either of them would cost.

KD and Giannis, I don't really have much interest in now unless the 1st round draft pick cost isn't too high. KD, I'd only give up 1 or 2 max with mostly players going the other way. Giannis, not sure, that's a tougher one. I think he's just too costly to go after and it could end up being too short term of a move. I'd rather a great future than a short term contention like Nico was going for with his retarded move trading Luka (he never should have gotten rewarded with that number 1 pick).

[tbdog]

Does Ron Harper Jr. have any potential? Anybody actually know anything about him? I thought he was a guard, but I looked up his profile and seems that he's a SF/PF. At 6'6," seems he has a bit of weight on him as he's listed at 245lbs. Not saying I want him or anything, I was just a bit surprised to see he's a SF/PF, as without knowing anything about him, I assumed he was a SG/PG.


All reports indicate that Harper is pretty much a sure in allstar player. He has been compared to Cade Cunningham, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jalen Brunson, and a young James Harden before his shot took off. He has been around the NBA with his dad, who won with MJ mutliple times. He has a level head, clutch, has star dome around him.

[scott]

All reports indicate that Harper is pretty much a sure in allstar player. He has been compared to Cade Cunningham, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jalen Brunson, and a young James Harden before his shot took off. He has been around the NBA with his dad, who won with MJ mutliple times. He has a level head, clutch, has star dome around him.

I think Ice is asking about Dylan's older brother, Ron Jr.

[Ice009]

All reports indicate that Harper is pretty much a sure in allstar player. He has been compared to Cade Cunningham, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jalen Brunson, and a young James Harden before his shot took off. He has been around the NBA with his dad, who won with MJ mutliple times. He has a level head, clutch, has star dome around him.

I meant his brother (Ron Harper Jr.). I'm assuming you thought I was asking about Dylan? I was asking about his older brother who's been in the league for 3 years, but only played 11 games. I thought his brother was a smaller player, but saw he weighs 245lbs and is a SF/PF, so that is why I was asking if he's any good due to the Spurs actually needing a SF/PF. I was curious what sort of game he has.

I'm not questioning Dylan at all.

Just was interested to know what type of player his older brother is, and if he's worth bringing in to take a look at as I assume he might be a FA this off-season.

[tbdog]

I meant his brother (Ron Harper Jr.). I'm assuming you thought I was asking about Dylan? I was asking about his older brother who's been in the league for 3 years, but only played 11 games. I thought his brother was a smaller player, but saw he weighs 245lbs and is a SF/PF, so that is why I was asking if he's any good due to the Spurs actually needing a SF/PF. I was curious what sort of game he has.

I'm not questioning Dylan at all.

Just was interested to know what type of player his older brother is, and if he's worth bringing in to take a look at as I assume he might be a FA this off-season.

Oh right. https://www.nbadraft.net/players/ron-harper-jr/

It appears he is not an NBA athlete being his biggest downfall.

[Ice009]

Oh right. https://www.nbadraft.net/players/ron-harper-jr/

It appears he is not an NBA athlete being his biggest downfall.

Thanks. Darn. Looks like he's also short at 6'4" without shoes and weights 240lbs. The player profile said he could stand to loose weight to get a bit quicker, but if that is the case, I don't see how he could play PF at that height. Oh well, doesn't look like he's worth a look. I wish him well.

[cutewizard]

Guys, do you want Kuminga?

[cutewizard]

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/3286421?fbclid=IwY2xjawKTgANleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkE TFybVVuaTJjN3kwc2E2NGNLAR7KYXMeUGzVbxAqR_wEQ9nbVHN W3wSmvbKxAWGlVe0YbPPBUvLf6w7bgO4VPQ_aem_EsM2ITdD-JtFytMcro5B0w


The Golden State Warriors are expected to extend forward Jonathan Kuminga his $7.9-million qualifying offer before seeking a sign-and-trade this offseason, sources told The Athletic's Anthony Slater and Marcus Thompson II (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6358151/2025/05/15/warriors-steph-curry-jimmy-butler-future/).
Kuminga is in the final season of his four-year, $24.85-million rookie deal and is scheduled to become a restricted free agent this summer.
The 22-year-old is coming off an up-and-down campaign. He averaged 15.3 points, 4.6 rebounds, and 2.2 assists in 47 regular-season games. However, head coach Steve Kerr took Kuminga out of the rotation for the majority of the first round versus the Houston Rockets; Kuminga racked up four DNPs in Round 1 and played only 50 minutes in the seven-game series.




A hamstring injury to Steph Curry in Game 1 of the second round against the Minnesota Timberwolves gave the former lottery pick an opportunity for extended playing time. After a seven-point night in the first game, Kuminga rattled off 18-, 30-, 23-, and 26-point outings in the next four contests.
Kuminga said at the Warriors' season-ending media availability that he doesn't know what the future holds.
"I'm just grateful to be here," Kuminga said, according to ESPN's Ohm Youngmisuk (https://x.com/NotoriousOHM/status/1923126790375039416). "Still got a long summer to figure things out."
Kuminga added that he has a good relationship with Kerr despite their "ups and downs," per Youngmisuk (https://x.com/NotoriousOHM/status/1923127227987734914).
"There are certainly things he has to improve on, but he's 22 years old," Warriors owner Joe Lacob told Slater and Thompson. "He's got a hell of a lot of potential, and I would think he would be a part of our future plans. Now we'll have to see how the market all shakes out. We have a lot of evaluating to do."
Lacob is a big supporter of Kuminga and was reportedly a persuasive influence in the organization's decision to draft him seventh overall in 2021.
The Warriors have $171 million in projected salary for next season with a first-apron threshold of $195.9 million, per ESPN's Bobby Marks (https://x.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1922870389526466645). Most of that money is tied up in Curry, Jimmy Butler, and Draymond Green.
Gary Payton II, Kevon Looney, Gui Santos, Quinten Post, Pat Spencer (restricted), and Kevin Knox are expected to hit the free-agent market this summer.

[cutewizard]

Ohhhh, im sorry guys, i read some posts on reddit

low bbiq, a little bit egocentric, not Spurs materials, my apologies

[SpursGenius]

I'm out on 3 1st's + Devin + Keldon for KD
dumb ape wants clicks. rip off for 37 yo player who has only 2 years left

[RC_Drunkford]

Does Ron Harper Jr. have any potential? Anybody actually know anything about him? I thought he was a guard, but I looked up his profile and seems that he's a SF/PF. At 6'6," seems he has a bit of weight on him as he's listed at 245lbs. Not saying I want him or anything, I was just a bit surprised to see he's a SF/PF, as without knowing anything about him, I assumed he was a SG/PG.

Luke Kornet looked really good in Boston's game 5 win the other day. I was impressed with his play, so I'd definitely be interested in getting him. I figured he was a free agent since fans here have been mentioning him. Good looking out on that one. Definitely a possibility along with Steven Adams IMO. I think it would come down to cost. I'd probably rather Kornet due to his age, but Adam's toughness along with his screen setting really have me kind of excited. I just wonder what either of them would cost.

KD and Giannis, I don't really have much interest in now unless the 1st round draft pick cost isn't too high. KD, I'd only give up 1 or 2 max with mostly players going the other way. Giannis, not sure, that's a tougher one. I think he's just too costly to go after and it could end up being too short term of a move. I'd rather a great future than a short term contention like Nico was going for with his retarded move trading Luka (he never should have gotten rewarded with that number 1 pick).

You're better off looking at Andrew Nembhard's brother. He's flashing some potential in the combine.

[Ice009]

You're better off looking at Andrew Nembhard's brother. He's flashing some potential in the combine.

Isn't his brother really short 5'11" or something? I'm looking at Small Forwards, Power Forwards, Centers for the Spurs roster. I only mentioned Ron Harper Jr. as it seems he's a SF/PF (I thought he was a SG/PG like his father and younger brother), but I assume he's not very good since he's only played 11 games in 3 seasons.

[Ocotillo]

You guys are all sleeping on Riley Minnix.

[spurraider21]

You guys are all sleeping on Riley Minnix.
for good reason

[Bruno]

Spurs will have a hard time fixing their forwards rotation with free agents. Naz Reid or Aldama will likely be out of reach with only the MLE and there are little left after them.

What could be fixed with a free agent is the backup C spot. Brook Lopez should likely go to a team where he ill be starter but there are few decent backup C who will hit free agency this summer. Clint Capela might be the best realistic target for Spurs MLE this summer.

[Gandalf]

Spurs will have a hard time fixing their forwards rotation with free agents. Naz Reid or Aldama will likely be out of reach with only the MLE….

Would they work out a sign-and-trade for Vassell, assuming Naz Reid wanted to come here?

[Bruno]

Would they work out a sign-and-trade for Vassell, assuming Naz Reid wanted to come here?

Naz Reid FA situation is quite interesting.

With his great playoffs, Wolves priority should be to re-sign Randle. After that, re-signing Naz Reid will put them deep into the luxury tax.

Main question is how much luxury tax is Wolves' new ownership willing to pay?

If they aren't, Naz Reid will likely be on a new team next season:
- Nets and maybe Pistons will have some cap space to sign him as a FA.
- A S&T is a possibility but Wolves won't want to take back salary (so no to Vassell). Few teams have a trade exception big enough to make it work. Otherwise it has to be a complicate multi teams S&T.
- If nothing work, a lucky team team might get him on the cheap by offering him the full MLE.

Spurs could try to go after him with their MLE or could do a complicate multi teams S&T involving Branham, Wesley, one of Spurs' FA and a lot of second round picks.

[exstatic]

Naz Reid FA situation is quite interesting.

With his great playoffs, Wolves priority should be to re-sign Randle. After that, re-signing Naz Reid will put them deep into the luxury tax.

Main question is how much luxury tax is Wolves' new ownership willing to pay?

If they aren't, Naz Reid will likely be on a new team next season:
- Nets and maybe Pistons will have some cap space to sign him as a FA.
- A S&T is a possibility but Wolves won't want to take back salary (so no to Vassell). Few teams have a trade exception big enough to make it work. Otherwise it has to be a complicate multi teams S&T.
- If nothing work, a lucky team team might get him on the cheap by offering him the full MLE.

Spurs could try to go after him with their MLE or could do a complicate multi teams S&T involving Branham, Wesley, one of Spurs' FA and a lot of second round picks.

That would have been the question 2-3 years ago. Now, the question is, are the Timbervolves willing to have a FRP seven years out pushed to the end of the first round, and embargoed from being traded to maintain a non-championship level squad?

[Limguogolo]

They can let Naz Reid go. And get a shooter off the bench by offering a contract to Nadir Hifi who they seem to like a lot. On the other hand, I'm far from being a fan of Reid for the Spurs. He's not a true big, he's not a defender, he's a long three-point shooter who can run. Still useful, of course, for the Spurs, but it is not Reid who would fill the rebound problems.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/TheSteinLine/status/1928895682544361499

[mystargtr34]

Can’t read that ace it’s paid subscribers. Can you give us a preview? And by that I mean copy and paste the entire thing.

[ace3g]

Can’t read that ace it’s paid subscribers. Can you give us a preview? And by that I mean copy and paste the entire thing.

Paywall for me as well, here are things I found online:

https://x.com/BrightSideSun/status/1928909011295875544

https://x.com/OMagicHQ/status/1928899533481636229

https://x.com/seanhalfcourt/status/1928894947710599251

[tbdog]

Pistons are a good spot for those types of players. They'll probably end up with brook Lopez tbh.

Magic love their big players and clearly looking for shooting.

No Spurs rumors I see.

[CGD]

Re those DET rumors, wonder what that means for Duren?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

After the Cade extension hit the 30% mark Pistons don’t really have workable cap space unless they make other moves. They’d have to renounce Hardaway, Beasley, Shroeder and trade someone else away for close to nothing to create meaningful space. It’s far more likely they’ll try the sign and trade route but this would be very complicated for Naz or Turner.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/esidery/status/1931862206184095919

[The Truth #6]

I'm curious how we handle our big man rotation. And I'm curious if we can find someone better than Biyombo. I sure hope so. But in Bismack's defense, he played a role we have sorely been missing for a backup up big in my opinion. Rebound, set screens, dunker spot basic stuff, block shots, not be an idiot etc. Honestly, I'm ok with one more year of him unless we make something happen.

Obviously we need upgrades but his role was helpful relatively speaking.

[CGD]

https://x.com/esidery/status/1931862206184095919

Kewl, could he now get a freaking rebound and stop “popping” on seemingly every PnR play? Turner has to be up there among the most frustrating players to watch.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCQsbAoqpUw

[ace3g]

https://x.com/CyroAsseo/status/1932100498599072143

[exstatic]

Kewl, could he now get a freaking rebound and stop “popping” on seemingly every PnR play? Turner has to be up there among the most frustrating players to watch.

He’s a pick and pop big, and he’s a career 36% shooter from long. Last year, he shot 40%. Any frustration on your part is your own fault because you don’t understand who he is as a player.

[CGD]

He’s a pick and pop big, and he’s a career 36% shooter from long. Last year, he shot 40%. Any frustration on your part is your own fault because you don’t understand who he is as a player.

Nah, his career 3 point % is screwed by the good year he had this season. It looks like a lot of 33/34% seasons otherwise.

Also, imagine going into the tax on a big salary for a career 6 Rebs per game C?

[exstatic]

Nah, his career 3 point % is screwed by the good year he had this season. It looks like a lot of 33/34% seasons otherwise.

Also, imagine going into the tax on a big salary for a career 6 Rebs per game C?

I see a 38, a 37, and a couple of 36s. Bigs are also held to a different standard. Brook Lopez, supposedly this great floor spacer,is a career 35% guy. Any big shooting that mark or better is a floor spacer, and shpuld be taking those shots.

Also, stop looking at only counting stats. His DRB% is 20, and that’s pretty damn good.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1932856146538193039

[cutewizard]

It's been 11:years since 2014

Hope this is our best offseason yet......

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFlmd1Vz-M

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK3nyVU6VIg

[ace3g]

https://x.com/TheSteinLine/status/1933517362268889424

[Ice009]

Is he out of there? If so, that move didn't really work out for them.

[RC_Drunkford]

I bet he will become a Phoenix Sun :lol

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/v2QAppB5aO8?si=1nzPvkLgqJZXAYKE

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1933958431066742994

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Weird that Adams agreed to less than the non-taxpayer MLE. Good deal for Houston.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1934791339310293344

[CGD]

Does Harris have anything left?

[cutewizard]

Spurs

Where are our moves

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs

Where are our moves

KD is coming

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/x7M5ZqFSynQ?si=a4Qc0r0AHCuApciY

[Mnky]

Spurs

Where are our moves



Two number 1s incoming at this point. Both could be better than the majority of what's available in FA tbh.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1935635040479711338

[exstatic]

https://x.com/Eurohoopsnet/status/1935635040479711338

Massively overrated on this board.

[cutewizard]

I like Yabusele

Could be good for the second unit

[RC_Drunkford]

Massively overrated on this board.

I don't want this dude anywhere near the team. Get LaRavia instead.

[exstatic]

I don't want this dude anywhere near the team. Get LaRavia instead.

Yab was a Celts FRP, didn’t get year 3 picked up, disappeared for a good while, blipped back on the radar after the FNT did well at the Olympics, got signed to a talent starved team, and now they don’t care if he stays or goes. Not exactly a glowing recommendation.

[jjspur]

If Yabusele is willing to take about 5-7 million, great since that's decent money for a backup which he pretty much is, otherwise put me in the LaRavia camp.

[Ice009]

I was big on Yabusele after the Olympics, but I'm not sure he'd fit the team now. I didn't really watch him during the regular season (just looked at box scores), but I don't know how he'd fit defensively. Did anyone watch him closely? How was his defense in the NBA at the positions he plays (PF, C)? His rebounding numbers also don't look great which is something the Spurs need/are lacking in. So defense and rebounding are things the Spurs need, but I think he lacks in those areas.

As for his game, I really liked how he was still composed when LeBron tried to rattle him in the Olympics early in that gold medal game. He responded great and it didn't affect him at all. Pressure didn't seem to phase him. I also like him on offense. He can shoot. It's just the fit defensively I'm not sure about.

[ambchang]

His defense fits perfectly on the spurs. He doesn’t play any.

[exstatic]

His defense fits perfectly on the spurs. He doesn’t play any.

Aren’t we trying to fix that?

[onechance87]

Getting luke kornet should be the number one goal.

[TD 21]

Yab was a Celts FRP, didn’t get year 3 picked up, disappeared for a good while, blipped back on the radar after the FNT did well at the Olympics, got signed to a talent starved team, and now they don’t care if he stays or goes. Not exactly a glowing recommendation.

Nah, the 76ers want to keep him, but jumping to the 3rd pick makes it more difficult financially.

Obviously dependent on the draft/trade(s), but if the Spurs don't land immediate front court help on either front, I suspect there's a good chance they sign one of Yabusele or LaRavia.

[ambchang]

Aren’t we trying to fix that?

Hope so.

[spurraider21]

guys i like with MLE money would be LaRavia and NAW

i dont really care for Yabusele

for backup center they should be looking at guys potentailly agreeing to BAE money like BroLo, Horford, Kornet, Capela. you dont need a worlbeater here. just somebody who can play 15-20mpg and hold it down such that the defense doesnt completely fall apart just because wembanyama is resting. bonus points if its somebody that can share the floor with wemby for 5-10 minutes as needed

i dont think spending a first on a backup C is a great investment, and i do like sorber a lot. but im definitely prioritizing forwards like Fleming, Bryant, Coward before settling on a backup C

[R. DeMurre]

Getting luke kornet should be the number one goal.


It wouldn't make great waves in the sports media, but if the Spurs got Kornet and Laravia in July I would be ecstatic (the emotion, not the spurstalk poster).

[Guru of Nothing]

Sign me up for some Luke Kornet, especially if we don't take a big with the 14 (or even if we do if it's a project like Beringer). I'm assuming he won't command Hartenstein like $$$.

[Bruno]

The main thing about Yabusele with Sixers, is that he had to play basically out of position the whole year as undersized C because of Embiid's injuries

Yabusele would be a fine signing for Spurs to play PF alongside Wembanayama.

[scott]

DIdn't know where to post this but didn't want to start a new thread...

Vecenie's Offseason Preview for the Spurs is finally up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyxAnM6Aovo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyxAnM6Aovo

[ace3g]

That's the key, he is a PF you know works with Wemby.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/MiloxWorld/status/1935748416472027207

https://x.com/MiloxWorld/status/1935744259476304306

https://x.com/MiloxWorld/status/1935744252190859709

https://x.com/MiloxWorld/status/1935744244519420277

https://x.com/MiloxWorld/status/1935730384701956342

[SpursFan86]

The main thing about Yabusele with Sixers, is that he had to play basically out of position the whole year as undersized C because of Embiid's injuries

Yabusele would be a fine signing for Spurs to play PF alongside Wembanayama.

Agreed. Obviously it depends on the money, but assuming it’s something reasonable I think he’d be a good fit.

[mo7888]

guys i like with MLE money would be LaRavia and NAW

i dont really care for Yabusele

for backup center they should be looking at guys potentailly agreeing to BAE money like BroLo, Horford, Kornet, Capela. you dont need a worlbeater here. just somebody who can play 15-20mpg and hold it down such that the defense doesnt completely fall apart just because wembanyama is resting. bonus points if its somebody that can share the floor with wemby for 5-10 minutes as needed

i dont think spending a first on a backup C is a great investment, and i do like sorber a lot. but im definitely prioritizing forwards like Fleming, Bryant, Coward before settling on a backup C

NAW is my top free agent priority

[R. DeMurre]

NAW is my top free agent priority

What do you think he'll cost? I think he's a relatively late bloomer who's better than his general reputation, but also a guy who scores in single digits so can't demand too much... exactly the kind of role player the Spurs need around Wemby & Fox.

[Ice009]

The main thing about Yabusele with Sixers, is that he had to play basically out of position the whole year as undersized C because of Embiid's injuries

Yabusele would be a fine signing for Spurs to play PF alongside Wembanayama.

How's his defense and rebounding when playing more in his natural position, Bruno? I still really like Yabusele, just wasn't sure if he'd fit on the Spurs roster.

[mo7888]

What do you think he'll cost? I think he's a relatively late bloomer who's better than his general reputation, but also a guy who scores in single digits so can't demand too much... exactly the kind of role player the Spurs need around Wemby & Fox.

I hope we can get him for the MLE.

[CGD]

DIdn't know where to post this but didn't want to start a new thread...

Vecenie's Offseason Preview for the Spurs is finally up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyxAnM6Aovo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyxAnM6Aovo

These have been largely great

[ace3g]

https://x.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1935811142799987151

[Bruno]

How's his defense and rebounding when playing more in his natural position, Bruno? I still really like Yabusele, just wasn't sure if he'd fit on the Spurs roster.

I find him fine defense/rebounding wise at PF. He didn't stand out as being especially good or bad to me.

I'm not sure it's a good idea for Spurs to sign a good but not great forward. With Fox/Harper/Castle likely eating all the guards minutes, Spurs will have 5 decent players at SF/PF with Vassell, Champagnie, Keldon, Barnes and Sochan. Adding a player who likely will only be marginally better like Yabusele, NAW or LaRavia won't help a lot and will create a logjam. It could change if Spurs do a trade that cost them some depth but, right now, signing them would be stockpiling mediocre players.

[Ice009]

Is there anyone you suggest they could go after that isn't similar to the guys we already have? If they do trade away some of those guys you mentioned (Vassell, Keldon, Barnes, Sochan, Champagnie), would you say Yabusele, NAW, LaRavia are worth getting in that case?

Also, do you guys think the Spurs would trade Champagnie? Does he have much value to other teams? I assume due to his amazingly low salary, the Spurs would want to hold onto him?

[objective]

I don't think Barnes based on his own play will be good enough to play a lot of minutes. He did one thing well, spot up threes. Everything else was awful, most importantly his rebounding and defense. He's old and washed and the shooting will be the last thing to go. But any average rebounder and defender will more benefit winning, and the better they get in a replacement the better they'll be.

[spurraider21]

NAW is my top free agent priority
i like him a lot. reason i lean laravia is because he has spent most of his career minutes at forward (about half at the 4), whereas NAW has spent a majority at guard. between Barnes being an expiring, Keldon being phased out, and Sochan still being a question mark, thats a hole i'd rather plug in FA

[Dverde]

https://x.com/amicohoops/status/1936149264281092254?s=46

[RC_Drunkford]

Like I said, Spurs and Lakers will go after the same frontcourt players. Glad it's Amico, which means it doesn't mean anything.

[LeBowen]

Like I said, Spurs and Lakers will go after the same frontcourt players. Glad it's Amico, which means it doesn't mean anything.

Tbh, clear advantage to the Lakers because they're offering a starting role.
We can't guarantee more than 15 to 18 mpg to any big we're trying to get.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/TheSteinLine/status/1936209352546787579

[scottspurs]

Free agent Spurs wish list


Sign and trade candidate I like

Julius Randle
Naz Reid
Johnathon Kuminga
Santi Aldama
Bobby Portis
John Collins
Duncan Robinson


MLE candidates I like


Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Malik Beasley
Clint Capela
Kelly Oubre
Luke Kennard
Sam Merrill
Jake LaRavia
Luke Kornet
Mo Wagner


BAE candidates I like


Guerschon Yabusele
Kevon Looney
Brook Lopez
Al Horford
Matisse Thybulle
Deandre Jordan
Seth Curry
Doug McDermott
Kris Middleton
Thomas Bryant
Bol Bol
Marvin Bagley
Mason Plumlee
Larry Nance Jr
Bruce Brown
Dorian Finney-Smith
Ben Simmons
Chris Boucher
Amir Coffey

[exstatic]

Free agent Spurs wish list


Sign and trade candidate I like


Myles Turner
Julius Randle
Naz Reid
Johnathon Kuminga
Santi Aldama
Bobby Portis
John Collins
Duncan Robinson


MLE candidates I like


Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Malik Beasley
Clint Capela
Kelly Oubre
Luke Kennard
Sam Merrill
Jake LaRavia
Luke Kornet
Mo Wagner


BAE candidates I like


Guerschon Yabusele
Kevon Looney
Brook Lopez
Al Horford
Matisse Thybulle
Deandre Jordan
Seth Curry
Doug McDermott
Kris Middleton
Thomas Bryant
Bol Bol
Marvin Bagley
Andre Drummond
Mason Plumlee
Larry Nance Jr
Bruce Brown
Dorian Finney-Smith
Ben Simmons
Chris Boucher
Amir Coffey





I think Myles Turner signed a new deal with Indy during the playoffs.

[scott]

scottspurs I believe Drummond has already opted in

[scottspurs]

Well crap lol I’ll edit it

[scottspurs]

Basically come away with a shooter and a big regardless of what they do in the draft.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1936516278078017776

[RC_Drunkford]

Free agent Spurs wish list


Sign and trade candidate I like

Julius Randle
Naz Reid
Johnathon Kuminga
Santi Aldama
Bobby Portis
John Collins
Duncan Robinson


MLE candidates I like


Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Malik Beasley
Clint Capela
Kelly Oubre
Luke Kennard
Sam Merrill
Jake LaRavia
Luke Kornet
Mo Wagner


BAE candidates I like


Guerschon Yabusele
Kevon Looney
Brook Lopez
Al Horford
Matisse Thybulle
Deandre Jordan
Seth Curry
Doug McDermott
Kris Middleton
Thomas Bryant
Bol Bol
Marvin Bagley
Mason Plumlee
Larry Nance Jr
Bruce Brown
Dorian Finney-Smith
Ben Simmons
Chris Boucher
Amir Coffey





you forgot KD :lol

[Guru of Nothing]

No Mamu? Like him a lot as an energy guy from the deep end of the bench.

[cd98]

It would be kind of funny to see a Wemby-Bol Bol lineup.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/RealGM/status/1936545384685285718

[ace3g]

https://x.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1936549462005969040

[cutewizard]

Ben Simmons, lol

[scottspurs]

I’m cool with Ben Simmons off the bench for $5 million

[SpursBills]

If KD for Vassell/Barnes/14 does materialize, backup center either goes to Kornet who requires MLE, or hopefully can get Kalkbrenner with a small trade up who I think is probably going to return lottery value

Taurean Prince may be a target with the BAE - he's nothing to write home about, but has decent size, decent defense, and shoots the 3 accurately at medium volume which is about all you can ask for from a backup wing. Would give the second unit 2 good shooters and 1 sometimes decent shooter for Harper. It allows you to save your MLE to potentially be opportunistic about players to absorb for additional assets to replenish the draft stock for future years if the front office wants to prioritize flexibility.

Fox/Harper
Castle/Champagnie
Sochan/Keldon
KD/Prince
Wemby/Kalkbrenner

[mudyez]

I really like Howard. He pretty surely could teach Wemby some tricks while also helping on the court. If it's for the BAE, I'd jump on that. He always felt like a Spur type of guy (so did Grant Hill and Nic Batum).

If Spurs see something in a guy like Fleming, Sorber etc go for it but if not just go BPA (Demin, Coward, Bryant,...) regardless of position...or just trade #14 for future stuff.
We can address backup C and maybe even PF via FA even though my fav Steven Adams is off the board.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/TheSteinLine/status/1936830638889517509

[cd98]

I’m cool with Ben Simmons off the bench for $5 million

Why not, he's a -3 and D player.

[scottspurs]

Why not, he's a -3 and D player.
Fits right in. Who needs shooting

[poopbox]

Ben Simmons is a 2k gawd. Dude can legit guard 1 through 5. Was just messing around and signed up to the Spurs during a franchise i was simming. Won 4 out of 5 titles and he made all defensive 1st team all 5 years. He was top 10 in steals and blocks all 5 years.:rollin

He has all the agility stats of a guard and all the defensive stats of a big.

[mystargtr34]

I suppose Kornet is more likely to stay with the Celtics now that they are under the apron with the Holiday and Porzingis trade.

[BacktoBasics]

Ben Simmons is a 2k gawd. Dude can legit guard 1 through 5. Was just messing around and signed up to the Spurs during a franchise i was simming. Won 4 out of 5 titles and he made all defensive 1st team all 5 years. He was top 10 in steals and blocks all 5 years.:rollin

He has all the agility stats of a guard and all the defensive stats of a big.

I think he’s done. Couldn’t break the rotation in any meaningful way for the clips.

[poopbox]

I think he’s done. Couldn’t break the rotation in any meaningful way for the clips.

Done as a star or a starter? Probably. Completely done in the nba? Nah. teams will gamble a minimum salary on him for years. he can still legit defend at a pretty high level

[Cabrito]

I would think Brook Lopez will be the likely free agent center we sign. He and Mitch were college teammates. Brook speaks highly of Mitch and he can be one of Mitch’s guys and vet leader.

[CGD]

I would think Brook Lopez will be the likely free agent center we sign. He and Mitch were college teammates. Brook speaks highly of Mitch and he can be one of Mitch’s guys and vet leader.

Sign me up for this.

[cutewizard]

I would think Brook Lopez will be the likely free agent center we sign. He and Mitch were college teammates. Brook speaks highly of Mitch and he can be one of Mitch’s guys and vet leader.

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Go get him

Wemby
Lopez
Yabusele
Sochan
14th pick
Mamuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>> our new frontline!

[SpursGenius]

Free agent Spurs wish list


Sign and trade candidate I like

Julius Randle
Naz Reid
Johnathon Kuminga
Santi Aldama
Bobby Portis
John Collins
Duncan Robinson


MLE candidates I like


Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Malik Beasley
Clint Capela
Kelly Oubre
Luke Kennard
Sam Merrill
Jake LaRavia
Luke Kornet
Mo Wagner


BAE candidates I like


Guerschon Yabusele
Kevon Looney
Brook Lopez
Al Horford
Matisse Thybulle
Deandre Jordan
Seth Curry
Doug McDermott
Kris Middleton
Thomas Bryant
Bol Bol
Marvin Bagley
Mason Plumlee
Larry Nance Jr
Bruce Brown
Dorian Finney-Smith
Ben Simmons
Chris Boucher
Amir Coffey




i wouldnt sign any of that trash to too long of a contract even mle- let our young guys play another year develop. Not winning champ next year save money for next summer

[Mal]

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Go get him

Wemby
Lopez
Yabusele
Sochan
14th pick
Mamuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>> our new frontline!

Yabusele and Lopez would be very nice.

[tbdog]

Yabusele and Lopez would be very nice.

Yes, very nice. Would like a shooter though. I just wish there were more options than Cam Johnson.

[mudyez]

Do we believe there is still a Horford to SA chance? Him plus Lopez would be enticing.

[mudyez]

As a german, I would love Moritz Wagner to come to SA.
The german media is a sucker for these guys (IHart as well)...and I actually believe he is a nice player (even though not as defensive minded, as I'd like our big acquisitions to be).

[LeBowen]

As a german, I would love Moritz Wagner to come to SA.
The german media is a sucker for these guys (IHart as well)...and I actually believe he is a nice player (even though not as defensive minded, as I'd like our big acquisitions to be).

He tore his ACL in late December. Spurs need a reliable backup right away, we can't wait for him to recover.



Do we believe there is still a Horford to SA chance? Him plus Lopez would be enticing.

Celtics went under second apron, they can go under first if they trade Hauser, I expect Horford to stay there for another season and retire. No reason for him to move at this stage.

[tbdog]

This is why I don't think Vassell will be moved, unless its for like a S&T for Reid or something like that. Which I don't think the Twolves would bother with anyway due to roster imbalance. Maybe Mikal Bridges because of salary is ending and Knicks might want to secure a player to a longer contract. Perhaps there is something there, but hell they gave up 5 picks for him, so doubt it. Maybe an Andrew Wiggins, type deal. Maybe Klay and PJ in a deal for Vassell? It's more likely Vassell will be used for a much bigger contract. But realistically, I can't see a Vassell deal out there.

[poopbox]

Do we believe there is still a Horford to SA chance? Him plus Lopez would be enticing.

Horford said at the end of last season he'd love to come back to Boston if he didn't retire so if the Spurs want him they will have to offer more than Boston to get him.

[cd98]

How many at or above league average three point shooters are out there? Not many. Spurs can't trade Vassell unless they get replacement shooters. My guess is right now they need him in most of their lineups because he can catch and shoot meaning they can pair him with the ball dominant guards we now have on our roster. And yes, he does over dribble and has had the ball in his hands over the last few seasons, but that will change now and I suspect you will see him more as a catch and shoot guy, which is probably a better role for him anyway.

[Ice009]

i wouldnt sign any of that trash to too long of a contract even mle- let our young guys play another year develop. Not winning champ next year save money for next summer

Is next season's free agent class a lot better than this one?

[mo7888]

Is next season's free agent class a lot better than this one?

Yes, but the downside is that there's a lot more money available chasing that talent.

[LeBowen]

Is next season's free agent class a lot better than this one?

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/_/year/2026/sort/contract_value

Not really if Spurs are concerned.
Not many wings that would suit us.

[RC_Drunkford]

I firmly believe the only players the Spurs are willing to trade are Branham and Wesley. Everybody else is basically untouchable.

[Ice009]

I firmly believe the only players the Spurs are willing to trade are Branham and Wesley. Everybody else is basically untouchable.

That's a far cry from what I thought the Spurs were willing to do just a week ago :(.

[LeBowen]

That's a far cry from what I thought the Spurs were willing to do just a week ago :(.

The only thing that hasn't changed is that he didn't know shit a week ago and that he doesn't know shit right now.
He just embarrassed himself with all the inside info talk and is in full emo mode with these nonsense posts.

[poopbox]

I firmly believe the only players the Spurs are willing to trade are Branham and Wesley. Everybody else is basically untouchable.

Damn from getting Kevin Durant to we won't trade anybody but the two guys who's contracts expire at the end of the season we are not offering new ones to :rollin

[LeBowen]

Damn from getting Kevin Durant to we won't trade anybody but the two guys who's contracts expire at the end of the season we are not offering new ones to :rollin

Retard stop dodging my post and reply since I put some effort in to debunk most of your garbage takes.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305255&page=8&p=11262948&viewfull=1#post11262948

Or better don't, since you got nothing useful to say.

[scott]

How many at or above league average three point shooters are out there? Not many. Spurs can't trade Vassell unless they get replacement shooters. My guess is right now they need him in most of their lineups because he can catch and shoot meaning they can pair him with the ball dominant guards we now have on our roster. And yes, he does over dribble and has had the ball in his hands over the last few seasons, but that will change now and I suspect you will see him more as a catch and shoot guy, which is probably a better role for him anyway.

If I had to guess, anywhere from 35-65% of the players in the NBA are at or above league average three point shooters.

[cd98]

If I had to guess, anywhere from 35-65% of the players in the NBA are at or above league average three point shooters.

I mean available to pick up. It's one thing if you trade Vassell and get KD, but since that isn't happening, you can't trade Vassell and not get a shooter back that is at or above league average. I think he's a starter next year over either Harper or Castle because of his ability to be a spot up shooter.

[ambchang]

If I had to guess, anywhere from 35-65% of the players in the NBA are at or above league average three point shooters.

I thought it’s 50%, by definition. No?

[scott]

I thought it’s 50%, by definition. No?

Nope. 50% are at or above the median, but averages can be skewed.

For example. If there are four players. The first three are .000 shooters on 1 attempt/game, but he 4th shooter is a 1.000 shooter on 7 attempts/game... the "league average" would be .700... but 75% of the "league" would be below average.

[scott]

I mean available to pick up. It's one thing if you trade Vassell and get KD, but since that isn't happening, you can't trade Vassell and not get a shooter back that is at or above league average. I think he's a starter next year over either Harper or Castle because of his ability to be a spot up shooter.

Gotcha. Yeah I agree... if you trade Vassell the Spurs had damn well have a plan to replace the shooting. Same with Barnes, tbh. Can't go trading them for clankers.

[mudyez]

J Collins gone

I can't say that I'm sad.

A lot of people here will be.

[Joseph Kony]

J Collins gone

I can't say that I'm sad.

A lot of people here will be.

can still be easily acquired via trade