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Dex
07-10-2025, 10:02 PM
Wemby and Barnes chillin out at Summer League in Vegas :bobo

mystargtr34
07-10-2025, 10:08 PM
Bryant has made some sneaky nice passes this game. Finally gets an assist for one.

ace3g
07-10-2025, 10:36 PM
https://x.com/NBA/status/1943514407662702630

spurraider21
07-10-2025, 10:49 PM
Sounds about like when I try to get my kids to watch the Spurs (or any sporting event) with me :lol
We were more or less courtside behind all the spurs guys. Sochan, Vassell, kj, fox, barnes. Apparently wemby showed up right after we left smh

ismael-robert
07-10-2025, 11:00 PM
What happens when u let ur kids parent...should've got him some merch or light up toys n junk food to keep em quiet

Ariel
07-10-2025, 11:18 PM
Salaun looked great in SL last year.
Salaun looked like a piece of shit in every single game he's ever played in his life. Beringer is miles ahead as a prospect.

Mr. Body
07-10-2025, 11:49 PM
Salaun looked like a piece of shit in every single game he's ever played in his life. Beringer is miles ahead as a prospect.

They're closer than you think.

PhantomDashCam
07-11-2025, 12:11 AM
Look, it was only one game but came away incredibly impressed with Beringer.

For a prospect who apparently has only played 3-4 years of basketball, what he was doing was incredible.
Played within himself, held his own physically against a legit NBA body in Missi (who went at him several times inside) and was the best player on the floor.

Can’t wait to see his next game and follow his development. Sounds like a great kid and he is in the perfect position to succeed post-Gobert with a game that should grow proportionately.

ismael-robert
07-11-2025, 12:20 AM
Bouyea had game winner

scott
07-11-2025, 12:21 AM
Entire squad in the house

Keldon looks like a redneck even without a cowboy hat now, De'Aaron looks like he works in the Spurs Season Ticket Sales Team, and HB looking like a Hollywood actor

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gvi_fn5akAEpMGZ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

timtonymanu
07-11-2025, 02:08 AM
Entire squad in the house

Keldon looks like a redneck even without a cowboy hat now, De'Aaron looks like he works in the Spurs Season Ticket Sales Team, and HB looking like a Hollywood actor

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gvi_fn5akAEpMGZ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Looks like the friendship crew are Spurs for life :cry.

Limguogolo
07-11-2025, 03:05 AM
Yes they did bro.He was there at 38 and we traded the pick.
This has been said a hundred times. He probably had a deal with the Kings. This often happens for players projected late in the first round and early in the second round. It doesn't matter if you are taken 23 picks or 12th picks in the second round, the most important thing is that the agent comes to an agreement with the franchise.

Quite likely here that what Raynaud was looking for was not to be taken high by an already competitive team or in a team with already plenty of prospects. But the assurance of having a guaranteed contract, a place in the rotation, and above all staying in California. I'll bet his girlfriend is still studying at Stanford. It's not the kind of university that you decide to quit in the middle of. Brilliant women also have the right to finish their studies. It's very Spurs spirit, but applied... to California.

The last time the Spurs probably threw up a “Ray-no” prayer had to be in the 2013 Finals.


Beringer is very impressive... Hard to move in the post, and a gazelle on the counterattack... Even more impressive, he seems to have excellent hands...

Splits
07-11-2025, 03:30 AM
Entire squad in the house

Keldon looks like a redneck even without a cowboy hat now, De'Aaron looks like he works in the Spurs Season Ticket Sales Team, and HB looking like a Hollywood actor

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gvi_fn5akAEpMGZ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Sochan looks like a Chippendales dancer and Vic looks like his mother had to sew two pairs of pants together so they would fit him.

Vienna
07-11-2025, 05:13 AM
the picture proves it is technically impossible to sit Weby.

scottspurs
07-11-2025, 09:19 AM
Having watched a lot of summer league so far the rookies I’m most impressed with are VJ Edgecombe, Derik Queen and Nique Clifford.

I think Cooper Flagg and Ace Bailey will be fine but they both take some bad shots at times.

Robertas Jakucionis has been a turnover machine and might be more of a project than what I thought.

Joan Beringer looks like he might actually be alright.

Jeremiah Fears looks like current Russell Westbrook lol

spurraider21
07-11-2025, 12:05 PM
ah so that was KJ sitting in the middle. with the hat on it was tough to tell, as they were mostly just looking forward. identifying sochan and vassell was easy due to their hair. and barnes/fox were turned around speaking with someone behind them for a while so they were easy to make out as well. we had to leave before champagnie and wemby showed up

spurraider21
07-11-2025, 12:07 PM
this was spurraider jr

https://i.gyazo.com/cfb2b5e7b004ffc05fc3b677febe45b1.jpg

vy65
07-11-2025, 12:16 PM
Might want to get that white growth on your kids face checked out tho

spurraider21
07-11-2025, 12:16 PM
place really emptied out after the lakers game tbh... was very easy to find great seats at the start of the spurs game. you can see sochan/vassell and the crew as the camera pans toward the right

https://streamable.com/br188y

summer league setup is really cool and fan-friendly tbh, especially with tickets being good all day. if you want to stick around for a decent amount of time i'd recommend leaving your 3-4 year old at home though :lol

i'd recommend anybody go tbh. if i wasnt going to be out of town this weekend i'd definitely have picked up tix for saturday

spurraider21
07-11-2025, 12:21 PM
also Flagg looked much better than the box score, at least from the parts of the game i saw. definitely had some jitters offensively, but i think he's going to hit the ground running. the amount of space he covered defensively was pretty noticeable

scott
07-11-2025, 12:23 PM
place really emptied out after the lakers game tbh... was very easy to find great seats at the start of the spurs game. you can see sochan/vassell and the crew as the camera pans toward the right

https://streamable.com/br188y

summer league setup is really cool and fan-friendly tbh, especially with tickets being good all day. if you want to stick around for a decent amount of time i'd recommend leaving your 3-4 year old at home though :lol

i'd recommend anybody go tbh. if i wasnt going to be out of town this weekend i'd definitely have picked up tix for saturday

I was there during SL last year and didn’t go, which I ended up kind of regretting. The tables were just treating me and my buddy a little too nicely to break away.

Chinook
07-11-2025, 12:24 PM
Entire squad in the house

Keldon looks like a redneck even without a cowboy hat now, De'Aaron looks like he works in the Spurs Season Ticket Sales Team, and HB looking like a Hollywood actor

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gvi_fn5akAEpMGZ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Keldon sitting in the center as if he's holding the entire locker room together. I don't think you can really outsource that kind of effect. To top it off, he doesn't have the toolish rep of Draymond or Brooks or others who usually play that kind of role. Maybe he can be a Bizarro Patty Mills where he goes from prominent player to towell-waver while providing great chemistry.

vy65
07-11-2025, 12:30 PM
https://i.ibb.co/KzN7LX9J/7f3ce7e9-81f1-4443-bfea-e63582137d9d.png (https://ibb.co/5xYvn65P)

Degoat
07-11-2025, 03:27 PM
Know it was mentioned but yeah Charles bassey is on the Celtics summer league squad

spurraider21
07-11-2025, 03:35 PM
Know it was mentioned but yeah Charles bassey is on the Celtics summer league squad
couple of nice blocks already

scott
07-11-2025, 04:02 PM
There is speculation that Charles is paying the Celtics to be on their SL team... I don't know how all that works... but sheesh if true.

PhantomDashCam
07-11-2025, 05:39 PM
Having watched a lot of summer league so far the rookies I’m most impressed with are VJ Edgecombe, Derik Queen and Nique Clifford.

I think Cooper Flagg and Ace Bailey will be fine but they both take some bad shots at times.

Robertas Jakucionis has been a turnover machine and might be more of a project than what I thought.

Joan Beringer looks like he might actually be alright.

Jeremiah Fears looks like current Russell Westbrook lol

I don’t know man. Had some moments on Offense but thought he was pretty bad overall.

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rjv
07-11-2025, 06:07 PM
I don’t know man. Had some moments on Offense but thought he was pretty bad overall.

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his defense effort juxtaposed with that of carter's is night and day. i'd much rather have a player who needs to develop on the offensive side than one who is miles away from being a decent defender. i also heard that Queen gave some of the worst interviews prior to the draft. maybe he works out but he's gonna have to reinvent his work ethic.

rjv
07-11-2025, 06:08 PM
I don’t know man. Had some moments on Offense but thought he was pretty bad overall.

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Queen's defensive effort juxtaposed with that of carter's is night and day. i'd much rather have a player who needs to develop on the offensive side than one who is miles away from being a decent defender. i also heard that Queen gave some of the worst interviews prior to the draft. maybe Queen works out but he's gonna have to reinvent his work ethic.

ace3g
07-11-2025, 06:10 PM
Matt Guzman mattgzman
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4m
Charles Bassey on playing for the #Celtics for #NBA 2K26 Summer League: "It was last minute. I got a call from my agent, and flew out the next day (for training camp). It's been good."

On what drew him to Boston: "The culture." #PorVida

mystargtr34
07-11-2025, 06:13 PM
I don’t know man. Had some moments on Offense but thought he was pretty bad overall.

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That’s disgusting effort. I don’t care how talented he is on offense you don’t want a 5 who’s going to provide a red carpet to the rim for the opposition. Imagine that next to Zion, how many points they’re going to give up. Even Missi sucks on defense but at least he tries and is big.

Pels were 29th in defense last year at 119 DRTG. Even their most used lineup with Herb Jones, Missi and Dejounte gave up a DRTG of 120. Their most used lineup with Zion in it gave up 128 DRTG. Now they add Queen :lol and Fears both who will be poor defenders.

They are going to be a bottom 5 defense this year again.

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/advanced?SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=DEF_RATING

https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612740/lineups-advanced?SeasonType=Regular+Season

spurraider21
07-11-2025, 06:16 PM
bassey had 14/11 and 2 blocks today

just sucks the guy cant stay healthy. i think he's a capable 2nd center or a high end 3rd center. it definitely was time for the spurs to move on and look for an upgrade

mystargtr34
07-11-2025, 06:21 PM
I thought the Spurs may have kept Bassey as the third string C after the Kornet signing. That was less likely after Olynik but even then I thought there was a chance as Olynik is better as a 4. But probably good for Bassey to try win minutes on a Boston team with a depleted C rotation.

benefactor
07-11-2025, 06:24 PM
Kon is showing good activity early. He hasn't gotten a lot of touches because McNeely is sort of making the show about him

spurraider21
07-11-2025, 06:29 PM
I thought the Spurs may have kept Bassey as the third string C after the Kornet signing. That was less likely after Olynik but even then I thought there was a chance as Olynik is better as a 4. But probably good for Bassey to try win minutes on a Boston team with a depleted C rotation.
Kelly has the skillset of a 4 but the footspeed of a 5. i dont think we should expect him to be hanging around the perimeter at all defensively

benefactor
07-11-2025, 06:29 PM
Kalkbrenner looks good too

benefactor
07-11-2025, 06:33 PM
McNeely heard me talking shit about him:lol

mystargtr34
07-11-2025, 06:34 PM
Kelly has the skillset of a 4 but the footspeed of a 5. i dont think we should expect him to be hanging around the perimeter at all defensively

You’re probably right on that. I’m more hoping he plays 4 because HB’s rebounding and defense is really fuckjin bad. Will be interesting to see how many minutes he plays next to Wemby and Kornet.

ChumpDumper
07-11-2025, 06:50 PM
Matt Guzman mattgzman
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4m
Charles Bassey on playing for the #Celtics for #NBA 2K26 Summer League: "It was last minute. I got a call from my agent, and flew out the next day (for training camp). It's been good."

On what drew him to Boston: "The culture." #PorVida
The dearth of rim protectors has to be a draw as well. Good luck and stay healthy.

Mr. Body
07-11-2025, 06:52 PM
Weird to see players in Hornets uniforms playing with any kind of intelligence.

itzsoweezee
07-11-2025, 07:22 PM
Easy to see Salaun’s potential. That size, agility, and shooting potential is looking good

scott
07-11-2025, 07:38 PM
bassey had 14/11 and 2 blocks today

just sucks the guy cant stay healthy. i think he's a capable 2nd center or a high end 3rd center. it definitely was time for the spurs to move on and look for an upgrade

As the resident Bassey stan... even I can recognize he wasn't it, and IMO it just wasn't health. He just doesn't know how to play basketball the way a winning team needs out of a backup C. He's undoubtedly more physically gifted and even on par skill wise with Kornet, but I think we're going to see a night and day difference between them just on BBIQ.

Bassey is an emergency 3rd C in this league, and you better hope he doesn't blow out his knees in practice in the meantime.

spurraider21
07-11-2025, 07:50 PM
McNeeley looked quite good all around. if you chalk his late season shooting slump to coming back from injury he possibly wasnt fully healed from... he could end up being a good steal for Charlotte

he inexplicably continues to find ways to get rebounds despite not being much of an athlete

spurraider21
07-11-2025, 08:22 PM
As the resident Bassey stan... even I can recognize he wasn't it, and IMO it just wasn't health. He just doesn't know how to play basketball the way a winning team needs out of a backup C. He's undoubtedly more physically gifted and even on par skill wise with Kornet, but I think we're going to see a night and day difference between them just on BBIQ.

Bassey is an emergency 3rd C in this league, and you better hope he doesn't blow out his knees in practice in the meantime.
one might say he's a basketball neophyte

seriously though, i usually thought he impacted games well, and his per minute production was always quite good. the problem is last year he set his career high in games played with 36 while playing 10mpg. he simply wasnt available enough. he was also pretty unskilled offensively, so lineups had to work around him. i never thought he was a high end or good backup, but i thought he was capable.

its just hard to rely on that when he's consistently hurt despite such low wear and usage. i know you love the darko stuff

https://i.gyazo.com/cef3961430f93ae04c9b18e26ea231f8.png



and then when you factor in expected salaries, age... arguments could be made. but its really the dependability imo

mystargtr34
07-11-2025, 08:30 PM
This summer league camera definition feels like I’m back in 2010.

scott
07-11-2025, 08:34 PM
Kobe Brea looking like the sniper he is early for PHX.

Surprised to see Alex Sarr getting Summer League minutes

PhantomDashCam
07-11-2025, 08:43 PM
That Tre Johnson highlight. I’m not sure if it was accidental or intentional. Awesome either way.

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mystargtr34
07-11-2025, 08:44 PM
Essengue looks so damn skinny out there. Like Kevin Durant skinny. Just without the skills.

scott
07-11-2025, 08:51 PM
If I were a Wizards fan (and praise allah I am not), I would be concerned that Alex Sarr isn't dominating, or even really doing anything in, this game

mystargtr34
07-11-2025, 08:56 PM
Sarr has such a low motor. Jaren Jackson level rebounder. Doesn’t go after offensive rebounds at all even when it’s just his man between him and the basket.

mystargtr34
07-11-2025, 08:56 PM
If I were a Wizards fan (and praise allah I am not), I would be concerned that Alex Sarr isn't dominating, or even really doing anything in, this game

You read my mind.

mystargtr34
07-11-2025, 09:05 PM
If I was the Wizards brass I’d have Branham and Wesley out here and I’m making Branham full court press every possession.

Darkwaters
07-11-2025, 09:15 PM
Is there any kind of rule that says after so many years of NBA experience a player is no longer eligible to play Summer League? I’ve never heard of one, but maybe it’s an unspoken thing?

ace3g
07-11-2025, 09:32 PM
Matt Guzman mattgzman
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I’m told there is still no official injury designation for Dylan Harper (groin). He’ll have a final status for tomorrow’s #Spurs vs. #Mavericks game after a team walkthrough in the morning. #PorVida

mystargtr34
07-11-2025, 09:47 PM
Is there any kind of rule that says after so many years of NBA experience a player is no longer eligible to play Summer League? I’ve never heard of one, but maybe it’s an unspoken thing?

I don’t think there is a written rule but I think the unwritten rule is if you’re going into your 3rd year or later then you shouldn’t be in summer league.

I was just joking about Branham and Wesley tho.

Darkwaters
07-11-2025, 09:50 PM
I know Amare Stoudemire played SL when he was in his mid 30s. But I think he was trying to make a comeback so he wasn’t assigned there by a team.

Mr. Body
07-11-2025, 10:44 PM
James Bouknight making an appearance with the Trailblazers, as has Sidy.

djohn2oo8
07-11-2025, 11:14 PM
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definitely getting his shot from Ime this coming season

Mr. Body
07-11-2025, 11:16 PM
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definitely getting his shot from Ime this coming season

They'll have to. He looks a lot the same to me. Gets gobbled up handling the ball, great connective passer, great hands, can shoot. He blew up last SL too but we'll see again how he fares against actual teams.

Chinook
07-12-2025, 12:23 AM
Is there any kind of rule that says after so many years of NBA experience a player is no longer eligible to play Summer League? I’ve never heard of one, but maybe it’s an unspoken thing?

The Spurs had Ayres and Baynes out there, so there's no age or tenure limit. I get not bringing Wemby or even Castle back for their second seasons, but they should have had Branham and Wesley out there last year. I think they want to give the other guys time to shine, as they have to try to get a contract with another team. But I think 2015 showed us that if you can get a good system set up, you get a chance to put other players into roles more suited to their futures. Sure, some lower-level team might see DJG's showcase and think he could be a solid option on their club, but by and large, a role-player showing themselves to be a mediocre star against subpar competition isn't going to help as much as them showing they can defend, run off screens and box out.

R. DeMurre
07-12-2025, 12:48 AM
The scoring is nice of course, but the real positive sign for Reed Sheppard is all the other stuff that impacts the game: he finished with 8 rebounds, 4 assists, 4 steals, and 3 blocks in 33 minutes... guys that aren't well rounded rarely flirt with 5x5s like that.

LeBowen
07-12-2025, 04:23 AM
They'll have to. He looks a lot the same to me. Gets gobbled up handling the ball, great connective passer, great hands, can shoot. He blew up last SL too but we'll see again how he fares against actual teams.

There's no way he can play together with FVV.
I don't think he can be anything more than a solid starter because of his size, but it's obvious he's got no future in Houston, needs to ask to be moved.
He was the third pick and 15mpg is the absolute most he'll get in this upcoming season, maybe not even that considering how deep the Rockets are.

Ice009
07-12-2025, 08:28 AM
Yeah, I agree. For his own good, he should ask for a trade. I thought he might have been headed somewhere in the trade with Phoenix, but I am guessing the Rockets wanted to keep him.

Ariel
07-12-2025, 09:22 AM
There's no way he can play together with FVV.
I don't think he can be anything more than a solid starter because of his size, but it's obvious he's got no future in Houston, needs to ask to be moved.
He was the third pick and 15mpg is the absolute most he'll get in this upcoming season, maybe not even that considering how deep the Rockets are.
FVV has little to do with Sheppard's future in Houston long term, they just declined their option and signed him to a much cheaper 2 year contract, it's clear they see him as a stop gap. If Sheppard proves he can perform at the NBA level anywhere near what he's done elsewhere (G League, Summer League, College) FVV isn't going to stop him from getting playing time. It's about him.

Also, Houston FO really believes in their players, they're not the kind to turn around and shop them instantly. I think they give Sheppard at least one more season to prove himself (likely more), except if Giannis becomes available.

LeBowen
07-12-2025, 09:25 AM
FVV has little to do with Sheppard's future in Houston long term, they just declined their option and signed him to a much cheaper 2 year contract, it's clear they see him as a stop gap. If Sheppard proves he can perform at the NBA level anywhere near what he's done elsewhere (G League, Summer League, College) FVV isn't going to stop him from getting playing time. It's about him.

They're going all in over these 2 or 3 years while they have KD, there won't be any patience for young players that aren't ready.
FVV is their only reliable traditional playmaker and unless Sheppard makes a huge leap, he won't be getting more than 15mpg anytime soon.
And each season of not getting 25-30mpg is another year of stagnation.

R. DeMurre
07-12-2025, 09:32 AM
There's no way he can play together with FVV.
I don't think he can be anything more than a solid starter because of his size, but it's obvious he's got no future in Houston, needs to ask to be moved.
He was the third pick and 15mpg is the absolute most he'll get in this upcoming season, maybe not even that considering how deep the Rockets are.


To be fair, a prime Steph Curry wouldn't pair well with FVV either. Micro-sized backcourts don't work 99% of the time in the NBA. And while I agree that 15-20mpg for a 3rd pick feels like an odd use of assets, Houston is one of the few teams with enough depth to actually make it work. If they challenge for a title the next two years with Durant & co., then FVV's contract is up and Sheppard becomes in theory his full time replacement.

Mugen
07-12-2025, 09:50 AM
The Rise of Saluan.

Mr. Body
07-12-2025, 10:06 AM
Amen Thompson can cover for some of Reed's shortcomings. I agree that Van Vleet doesn't factor a ton into Sheppard's future. Sheppard could have a great year playing against Durant's gravity. He can develop what he's lacking. His handles really aren't great, which is pretty surprising. You'd want closer to a Steve Nash level of handle and awareness. A weak-side defender stripped him a couple times last night he never saw coming.

I'm interested in seeing how Kon plays this year. To me he's what Sheppard was supposed to be. I think he's a better ball-handler, better playmaker, just plain bigger, stronger, and is a better defender. His size and handles may let him get shots off that Sheppard can't.

CGD
07-12-2025, 10:45 AM
Is there any kind of rule that says after so many years of NBA experience a player is no longer eligible to play Summer League? I’ve never heard of one, but maybe it’s an unspoken thing?

Don’t think so. I just don’t think there is much upside for the player, unless you’re a complete dark horse like a Gary Neal or this Garcia kid.

If you dominate “you’re suppose to” and if you underperform then you have bigger issues ahead.

scott
07-12-2025, 11:16 AM
We get Dylan Harper basketball today!!!

Will be watching on tape delay, but looking forward to it.

Hopefully Flagg’s advisors get to him with a razor before the game and the Dirtbag Cooper era ends before it really gets going

LeBowen
07-12-2025, 11:21 AM
We get Dylan Harper basketball today!!!

A part of me is hoping Spurs DNP him just to trigger Silver. :lol


Hopefully Flagg’s advisors get to him with a razor before the game and the Dirtbag Cooper era ends before it really gets going

He's rocking the level 2 molester style. :lol

ace3g
07-12-2025, 02:22 PM
Some photos from California Classic from Spurs affiliate photographer.

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itzsoweezee
07-12-2025, 10:11 PM
Queen is so uninterested in playing defense it’s hilarious to watch. He’s peak Harden-level bad

sfernald
07-12-2025, 10:13 PM
If I was the Wizards brass I’d have Branham and Wesley out here and I’m making Branham full court press every possession.

They are in a roster crunch so honestly they are probably just planning on cutting Branham and Wesley.

heyheymymy
07-12-2025, 10:33 PM
Sidy Cissoko playing with POR right now ESPN2

ace3g
07-13-2025, 12:02 AM
Sidy Cissoko 3-4 from 3 tonight.

rjv
07-13-2025, 12:05 AM
Waiting for ST to start on the Spurs kept Cissoko from becoming the player he can be posts.

emanueldavidginobili
07-13-2025, 08:23 AM
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Wow his 3 point shot actually looks good, good for him rooting for him.

Ice009
07-13-2025, 10:05 AM
WTF. He couldn't shoot for shit with the Spurs. His shot looked horrendous here. It actually looked decent in those clips. Maybe Pop wasn't being facetious when he was praising Cidy.

ismael-robert
07-13-2025, 10:52 AM
Bring him home...drop ingram

ace3g
07-13-2025, 11:51 AM
Carter Bryant literally and figuratively shut down Cooper Flagg.

LeBowen
07-13-2025, 01:42 PM
I know that the usual Spurs practice is to shut down the top picks after a couple of games, but with the squad looking solid I think it would be nice if they try and win the whole thing.

SpursFan86
07-13-2025, 02:16 PM
I know that the usual Spurs practice is to shut down the top picks after a couple of games, but with the squad looking solid I think it would be nice if they try and win the whole thing.

I would bet a good amount of money that they give Harper another 20 minutes tomorrow and then shut him down tbh. Hope I’m wrong.

heyheymymy
07-13-2025, 05:16 PM
If I was SA I would shut Harper down and not risk it but I hope they try to win and leave him in some.

I figure SA looks at SL as merely evaluation and someone of Harper's caliber is not long for that world but it's a new age Spurs now and they are playing competitively so maybe they want to shoot for the bracket.

pad300
07-13-2025, 05:46 PM
IMO, winning is a skill, and the only real way to learn it is to do it. The SL is starting small, but I would go for it.

dn0774
07-13-2025, 07:13 PM
I was at the game and had good line of sight on Mitch/Matt/Sean/Corliss (RC was there too for a bit) in their baseline seats. I could see them cringing during each fall Harper had right near them, 3 in total (the block on Nembhard, the dunk attempt he got fouled on, and a missed foul call a bit later). I wouldn’t be surprised if yesterday was his lone summer league action lol.

Ran into RC in the concourse during halftime as well, very pleasant quick interaction but he was understandably in a hurry. Dylan looked every bit as composed as I hoped he would, I actually think he can be a positive contributor in year 1 which is quite rare for guards (even for top prospects).

dn0774
07-13-2025, 07:14 PM
Double post

Biggems
07-13-2025, 07:29 PM
I was shocked to see Charles Bassey on a summer league squad, much less Boston. He had a great game today in their win.....22 pts, 13 rbs, 3 blks

Dejounte
07-13-2025, 07:54 PM
They slept on my guy Jase Richardson. He’s a top 6 guy in this draft when it’s all said and done

Dejounte
07-13-2025, 07:55 PM
They slept on my guy Jase Richardson. He’s a top 6 guy in this draft when it’s all said and done

PhantomDashCam
07-13-2025, 08:17 PM
Blown away by Tre Johnson right now.
I wonder where the Spurs ultimately had him on their boards...

I'm sure Kon K will ultimately be solid but Charlotte's FO would have to be a little antsy right now that they passed on this kid.

mystargtr34
07-13-2025, 08:23 PM
Tre has looked awesome.

Mark Jones is horrific he has called Demin about 3 different names. He went with Dummon first, then changed to Jummon. He should spend less time coming up with stupid catch phrases and instead research pronunciation of names, at least get the first round picks. He still can’t say Wembanyama properly either.

Mr. Body
07-13-2025, 08:39 PM
They slept on my guy Jase Richardson. He’s a top 6 guy in this draft when it’s all said and done

I liked him a lot with the second lotto pick for us... if we didn't get Harper. The way people overrate combine measurements is insane. Just get basketball players.

Mr. Body
07-13-2025, 08:40 PM
Tre has looked awesome.

Mark Jones is horrific he has called Demin about 3 different names. He went with Dummon first, then changed to Jummon. He should spend less time coming up with stupid catch phrases and instead research pronunciation of names, at least get the first round picks. He still can’t say Wembanyama properly either.

IMO they would have tried really hard to move up for him or VJ if they stayed at 8.

scott
07-13-2025, 08:53 PM
Go ahead and shut down Harper now, but CB could use the work

Ariel
07-13-2025, 09:07 PM
They slept on my guy Jase Richardson. He’s a top 6 guy in this draft when it’s all said and done
A guy who is a hair over 6' and has underwhelming athleticism is unlikely to be amont the best players in any decent class, if you're right it's more likely than not because this class ends up underwhelming, those guys need to hit an incredibly high mark to make it. On the other hand, guys like Carter Bryant, Drake Powell, Rasheer Fleming, Joan Beringer, Hugo Gonzalez, have a much easier path to success due to their size and skill set, they're one or two steps away from hitting big. Not all of them will, but I'll take my chances with those guys long term.

Ariel
07-13-2025, 09:11 PM
Go ahead and shut down Harper now, but CB could use the work
I hope they learned from the Sochan experiment not to overwhelm Bryant with more than he can handle, they need to make sure he develops a minimal skill set to contribute as soon as possible and, once he does that and is able to play without hurting the team, incrementally build from there. In his case, just have him take as many catch and shoot 3s as possible, that's really all that is needed for him to be a very successful role player, passing would be nice and ball handling a luxury, but shooting is a must and needs to happen as soon as possible.

Ariel
07-13-2025, 09:15 PM
Didn't watch him play, but Asa Newell had 18 & 11 with 4/5 from 3? nice. I wasn't expecting that, let's see if he can sustain that.

Dejounte
07-13-2025, 09:19 PM
A guy who is a hair over 6' and has underwhelming athleticism is unlikely to be amont the best players in any decent class, if you're right it's more likely than not because this class ends up underwhelming, those guys need to hit an incredibly high mark to make it. On the other hand, guys like Carter Bryant, Drake Powell, Rasheer Fleming, Joan Beringer, Hugo Gonzalez, have a much easier path to success due to their size and skill set, they're one or two steps away from hitting big. Not all of them will, but I'll take my chances with those guys long term.

Peak Chris Paul would dominate today. Not saying Jase is at that level - I’m saying I believe Jase has a ton of skill to show he’s an elite role player at the minimum. I don’t put too much stock in size when it comes to success. To me, that’s an easy way to dismiss good players for no reason at all.

Mr. Body
07-13-2025, 09:31 PM
A guy who is a hair over 6' and has underwhelming athleticism is unlikely to be amont the best players in any decent class, if you're right it's more likely than not because this class ends up underwhelming, those guys need to hit an incredibly high mark to make it. On the other hand, guys like Carter Bryant, Drake Powell, Rasheer Fleming, Joan Beringer, Hugo Gonzalez, have a much easier path to success due to their size and skill set, they're one or two steps away from hitting big. Not all of them will, but I'll take my chances with those guys long term.

A handful of the most badass guards in the NBA are Richardson's measurements. Not saying he's going to become Lillard or Mitchell but those players you list are all going to crash completely out of this league really fast, every single one, except for hopefully Carter Bryant. Those guys always tank, because they suck.

Give me the basketball player.

Ariel
07-13-2025, 09:32 PM
Peak Chris Paul would dominate today. Not saying Jase is at that level - I’m saying I believe Jase has a ton of skill to show he’s an elite role player at the minimum. I don’t put too much stock in size when it comes to success. To me, that’s an easy way to dismiss good players for no reason at all.
It's not dismissing them for no reason at all, it's an observation based on reality. Yes, you have your CP3s and Traes, but those are the exception, not the norm. Even relatively successful guys like Sexton are bench guys who teams can get for a single second rounder, Jase is smart and can shoot so he has a chancce to hang, but I'd be very surprised if he ends close to top 5 in this class like you expect. If he ends up a career 6th/7th man that would be a pretty good outcome for him, as a 6 ft guy drafted 25th overall.

Mr. Body
07-13-2025, 09:33 PM
Someone put together an analysis that undersize lotto picks (or close) have a far higher chance of hitting than those lanky 'good measurement, athletes.'

The reason is pretty clear once you break it down. Teams swing on size and athleticism but those guys almost every time suck out loud because they're only drafted because of their physical profile. While those undersize guards are drafted because, you know, they're actually good at playing the game they're intended to play.

Obviously there are busts on both sides, but when you remove freakish athleticism/profile, what you've got left is basketball ability. And that's what you want to bet on.

Ariel
07-13-2025, 09:35 PM
A handful of the most badass guards in the NBA are Richardson's measurements. Not saying he's going to become Lillard or Mitchell but those players you list are all going to crash completely out of this league really fast, every single one, except for hopefully Carter Bryant. Those guys always tank, because they suck.

Give me the basketball player.
Those guys are bad comparisons, they're bigger (height and wingspan), stronger, and better all around. Jase is smart so he has a chance of surviving, but I think he probably does so in a smaller role, say a smaller Podz. That's a useful player, but nowhere near a star.

baseline bum
07-13-2025, 09:36 PM
Blown away by Tre Johnson right now.
I wonder where the Spurs ultimately had him on their boards...

I'm sure Kon K will ultimately be solid but Charlotte's FO would have to be a little antsy right now that they passed on this kid.

Utah too. I would have said a prayer thanking Joseph Smith and sprayed my temple garments when I saw Tre still on the board at 5 if I was the Jazz GM.

Ariel
07-13-2025, 09:40 PM
Someone put together an analysis that undersize lotto picks (or close) have a far higher chance of hitting than those lanky 'good measurement, athletes.'

The reason is pretty clear once you break it down. Teams swing on size and athleticism but those guys almost every time suck out loud because they're only drafted because of their physical profile. While those undersize guards are drafted because, you know, they're actually good at playing the game they're intended to play.

Obviously there are busts on both sides, but when you remove freakish athleticism/profile, what you've got left is basketball ability. And that's what you want to bet on.
I'd like to see that analysis to comment, but I think you can count with one hand the number of guys his size drafted in the first round that have reached star level in the past 15/20 years, being 6 feet and under is almost a death sentence in today's NBA. Let's put it this way: Jase needs to hit 90th percentile, while those guys 6'6" and up with good athletic profile have much more margin for error. Just think about how many starters fit each profile currently and you have your answer.

Mr. Body
07-13-2025, 09:52 PM
Those guys are bad comparisons, they're bigger (height and wingspan), stronger, and better all around. Jase is smart so he has a chance of surviving, but I think he probably does so in a smaller role, say a smaller Podz. That's a useful player, but nowhere near a star.

Jase Richardson is absolutely 100% in the mold of those players I listed. He has a far better chance of becoming a Mitchell or a Lillard than any of the guys you listed have of becoming even close to stars.

Mr. Body
07-13-2025, 09:55 PM
I'd like to see that analysis to comment, but I think you can count with one hand the number of guys his size drafted in the first round that have reached star level in the past 15/20 years, being 6 feet and under is almost a death sentence in today's NBA. Let's put it this way: Jase needs to hit 90th percentile, while those guys 6'6" and up with good athletic profile have much more margin for error. Just think about how many starters fit each profile currently and you have your answer.

Yet the modern NBA is littered with really good guards that size. Death sentence? Maybe just lay off the nonsense on r/nba_draft. This comes up all the freaking time. Average height in the NBA hasn't changed in 40 years. Average height for PGs has only slightly changed since 1960. Good players play.

PhantomDashCam
07-13-2025, 10:55 PM
Utah too. I would have said a prayer thanking Joseph Smith and sprayed my temple garments when I saw Tre still on the board at 5 if I was the Jazz GM.

I sort of understand it from Utah's perspective if they rate Bailey as the second or third best prospect in the class. They also may like their proposed starting B/C in George and Collier.
Will be interesting to watch over time. But it does feel though, even in this limited of an environment, Cooper, Harper, VJ and Tre all look like legit NBA starters, long term, at worst.

Mnky
07-13-2025, 11:07 PM
It's not dismissing them for no reason at all, it's an observation based on reality. Yes, you have your CP3s and Traes, but those are the exception, not the norm. Even relatively successful guys like Sexton are bench guys who teams can get for a single second rounder, Jase is smart and can shoot so he has a chancce to hang, but I'd be very surprised if he ends close to top 5 in this class like you expect. If he ends up a career 6th/7th man that would be a pretty good outcome for him, as a 6 ft guy drafted 25th overall.

Cp3 was also a defensive menace at his size which makes him even more of a rarity. He would openly request the hardest defensive assignments. Not a lot of 6 ft guys historically able to play like CP3 could, let alone guys today.

scott
07-14-2025, 12:52 AM
I hope they learned from the Sochan experiment not to overwhelm Bryant with more than he can handle, they need to make sure he develops a minimal skill set to contribute as soon as possible and, once he does that and is able to play without hurting the team, incrementally build from there. In his case, just have him take as many catch and shoot 3s as possible, that's really all that is needed for him to be a very successful role player, passing would be nice and ball handling a luxury, but shooting is a must and needs to happen as soon as possible.

Agreed. On the offensive end it should be all C&S threes and some backcuts. Then on defense just keep doing what he's doing now, and learning how to adjust to the pro game. He's going to pick up a lot of fouls early, but that will teach him what he can and can't do in the NBA.

TheDoctor
07-14-2025, 01:24 AM
I was at the game and had good line of sight on Mitch/Matt/Sean/Corliss (RC was there too for a bit) in their baseline seats. I could see them cringing during each fall Harper had right near them, 3 in total (the block on Nembhard, the dunk attempt he got fouled on, and a missed foul call a bit later). I wouldn’t be surprised if yesterday was his lone summer league action lol.

Ran into RC in the concourse during halftime as well, very pleasant quick interaction but he was understandably in a hurry. Dylan looked every bit as composed as I hoped he would, I actually think he can be a positive contributor in year 1 which is quite rare for guards (even for top prospects).

This reminded me of an old thread :drunk

R.C. Buford Sighting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46108&)

Biggems
07-14-2025, 05:49 AM
Charles Bassey had himself a game for the Celtics....22 pts, 13 reb, 3 blk

I was quite surprised to see him in the SL, and with the Celts as well.

ginobilized
07-14-2025, 08:29 AM
Rasheer Fleming, who I was high on for a while, has racked up 2 DNP's so far. Maybe he's injured?
On another note, DeMarre Carroll, is the PHX coach. Yet another bit of fodder for hating that team.

Summer League is definitely a time when it's easy to project our hopes and fears onto our teams and these young players. That said, there's a LOT to like about the Spurs going forward.

baseline bum
07-14-2025, 09:53 AM
Rasheer Fleming, who I was high on for a while, has racked up 2 DNP's so far. Maybe he's injured?
On another note, DeMarre Carroll, is the PHX coach. Yet another bit of fodder for hating that team.

Summer League is definitely a time when it's easy to project our hopes and fears onto our teams and these young players. That said, there's a LOT to like about the Spurs going forward.

Definitely wanted Fleming and was wanting to trade down and get another first to pick him in the late 20s until Bryant slipped to 14. At that point I thought fuck Fleming, get this man who we didn't think was gonna be there. :lol

rascal
07-14-2025, 10:01 AM
If I was SA I would shut Harper down and not risk it but I hope they try to win and leave him in some.

I figure SA looks at SL as merely evaluation and someone of Harper's caliber is not long for that world but it's a new age Spurs now and they are playing competitively so maybe they want to shoot for the bracket.

Yes shut him down.

He had a nasty spill on the block shot at the rim. You don't want to lose him in these meaningless games.

He's going to be good, no need for him to prove anything in the Summer league. He's made the team.

ginobilized
07-14-2025, 10:07 AM
Utah too. I would have said a prayer thanking Joseph Smith and sprayed my temple garments when I saw Tre still on the board at 5 if I was the Jazz GM.

Low key quote of the year. Hilarious sacrilege there. Well done.

Mr. Body
07-14-2025, 10:10 AM
The Joseph Smith who died leaping from a building trying to escape justice for raping an underage girl? Wait... that sounds familiar...

spurraider21
07-14-2025, 10:33 AM
I don’t really fault Utah for taking Ace but i think Kon at 4 was awful.

ace3g
07-14-2025, 05:54 PM
What a dunk from Furphy!!!

mystargtr34
07-14-2025, 05:55 PM
That was filthy by Furphy.

ace3g
07-14-2025, 05:56 PM
https://x.com/KBsLakeShow24/status/1944893710484787423

exstatic
07-14-2025, 05:57 PM
I don’t really fault Utah for taking Ace but i think Kon at 4 was awful.

He was the only top player who would visit Charlotte.

spurraider21
07-14-2025, 06:00 PM
He was the only top player who would visit Charlotte.
doesnt matter. take the player. trade them later if you must.

RC_Drunkford
07-14-2025, 06:02 PM
WTF. He couldn't shoot for shit with the Spurs. His shot looked horrendous here. It actually looked decent in those clips. Maybe Pop wasn't being facetious when he was praising Cidy.

nah his shot was coming along while he was on the Spurs. He was hitting some in garbage time and the G-League. Made clear improvements, but I‘m not mad at losing him in a trade for Fox.

ace3g
07-14-2025, 06:06 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv2nwizXQAAwkck?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

scott
07-14-2025, 06:08 PM
https://x.com/KBsLakeShow24/status/1944893710484787423

Spurs Legend, Johnny "Air" Furphy

scott
07-14-2025, 06:10 PM
nah his shot was coming along while he was on the Spurs. He was hitting some in garbage time and the G-League. Made clear improvements, but I‘m not mad at losing him in a trade for Fox.

He also got dumped by two other teams before eventually ending up in POR. It's not like the rest of the league was hot on this guy and pounced on the Spurs making a mistake.

Happy for Sidy, but we used him to get Fox... that works for me.

benefactor
07-14-2025, 06:40 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv2nwizXQAAwkck?format=jpg&name=4096x4096Pulled his bones right out of his skin

ace3g
07-14-2025, 07:04 PM
Another angle, lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv2zGNNWwAA9XTM?format=jpg&name=large

itzsoweezee
07-14-2025, 07:25 PM
Another angle, lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv2zGNNWwAA9XTM?format=jpg&name=large

Oh no. Holy shit

Dejounte
07-14-2025, 07:26 PM
Gotta be one of the most embarrassing basketball photos ever

spurraider21
07-14-2025, 07:35 PM
havent watched any of it but Nips putting up nice numbers today

Biggems
07-14-2025, 07:37 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv2nwizXQAAwkck?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

What is this from?

Biggems
07-14-2025, 07:38 PM
Another angle, lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv2zGNNWwAA9XTM?format=jpg&name=large

24 looks like he just got jammed up the ass.....poor fella

ace3g
07-14-2025, 07:40 PM
Pacers social team as well...

https://x.com/Pacers/status/1944902349308203196

ace3g
07-14-2025, 07:42 PM
Another, lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv2qc5KXIAA7x_7?format=jpg&name=large

ace3g
07-14-2025, 07:44 PM
https://x.com/NBASummerLeague/status/1944896120523776328

benefactor
07-14-2025, 08:08 PM
Another angle, lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv2zGNNWwAA9XTM?format=jpg&name=large
:rollin

Allan Rowe vs Wade
07-14-2025, 09:35 PM
https://i.ibb.co/xtGYCMXF/Screenshot-20250714-213326-Brave.jpg

DAF86
07-14-2025, 09:40 PM
Another, lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv2qc5KXIAA7x_7?format=jpg&name=large

Why the fuck is he screaming and with his eyes closed? I don't care if he's the next MJ, I'm cutting his ass in an instant. :lol

scottspurs
07-14-2025, 10:37 PM
Essengue the same guy that quit on his team. Yeah I hope we see more posters on this scrub

ace3g
07-14-2025, 10:52 PM
https://x.com/ramonashelburne/status/1944916619064754206

spurraider21
07-14-2025, 10:55 PM
Another angle, lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv2zGNNWwAA9XTM?format=jpg&name=large
:lol Mugen this your boy?

DAF86
07-14-2025, 11:11 PM
https://x.com/ramonashelburne/status/1944916619064754206

I see a bunch of those getting sold when the winners of these leagues fail to make the NBA, tbh. :lol

heyheymymy
07-15-2025, 12:47 AM
lol essengue is getting electrocuted there haha

heyheymymy
07-15-2025, 12:48 AM
Essengue tbh

https://i.imgur.com/EydT0Fg.mp4

cutewizard
07-15-2025, 12:48 AM
Let's win a ring boys

Mugen
07-15-2025, 09:41 AM
:lol Mugen (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15519) this your boy?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1c/14/ab/1c14ab71462786fcd0e71fe488dfb783.gif

Mugen
07-15-2025, 09:42 AM
We could have drafted Furphy but of course BWrong sold the pick :lol

Mr. Body
07-15-2025, 09:59 AM
Sad for Essengue. That wasn't even his guy, he was coming over to contest. Buzelis I think blew his pick up.

Mr. Body
07-15-2025, 10:00 AM
We could have drafted Furphy but of course BWrong sold the pick :lol

Three guys I was really interested in at our draft slots last year were Stephon Castle, Rob Dillingham, and Johnny Furphy, and we drafted all three and traded two of them away. :lol

I didn't mind trading Dillingham but thought we should have kept Furph.

couchman
07-15-2025, 10:05 AM
I wanted Furph as well.
Seems like a good developmental prospect.

ace3g
07-15-2025, 09:38 PM
Raptors just won move to 3-0 as well

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv8i17FX0AEymue?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

playbonner15
07-15-2025, 09:47 PM
Raptors just won move to 3-0 as well

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv8i17FX0AEymue?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

That Raptors SL team's the team to beat tbh

Russ
07-15-2025, 09:53 PM
Raptors just won move to 3-0 as well

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv8i17FX0AEymue?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

If there are more than four 4-0 teams, how does the tie get broken?

Is it point differential (good for the Spurs) or number of quarters won (less good)?

ace3g
07-15-2025, 09:54 PM
If there are more than four 4-0 teams, how does the tie get broken?

Is it point differential (good for the Spurs) or number of quarters won (less good)?\

Point differential.

Russ
07-15-2025, 10:08 PM
\

Point differential.

For some reason the ESPN standings tie-breakers go by quarters rather than point differential.

I was at that 76rs game that they won by 41 points.

I was wondering why they were still pushing but it looks like they were just banking points.

Jordan Jackson
07-15-2025, 11:49 PM
Yang Hansen ain’t half bad. Seen him twice now. Gets up and down the court rather well. Curious to see him in a regular season game.

ginobilized
07-16-2025, 09:07 AM
I'll admit my skepticism about Yang Hansen, but, he's looking legit. Portland has some interesting pieces. They are one team that might benefit from a player like Vassell if he ever stops turning the corner for us.

Ice009
07-16-2025, 09:14 AM
So Yang has been playing well? I saw that he had a good first game, but haven't followed up on the games he's played after.

Any word on if D-Harp will be playing in the next game?

rascal
07-16-2025, 09:19 AM
I don’t really fault Utah for taking Ace but i think Kon at 4 was awful.

Kon was a reach and a horrible pick at 4. Passed on both Bailey and Johnson.

rascal
07-16-2025, 09:27 AM
McNeeley looked quite good all around. if you chalk his late season shooting slump to coming back from injury he possibly wasnt fully healed from... he could end up being a good steal for Charlotte

he inexplicably continues to find ways to get rebounds despite not being much of an athlete

McNeeley was a steal for Charlotte but they also made the bad Kon pick. Wanted the Spurs to land Mcneeley. He's a better shooter than Bryant and would have helped the Spurs 3 point shooting.

rjv
07-16-2025, 11:59 AM
all these 'spurs should have drafted so and so' postulates could be solved if anyone in the front office 'spoke' heptapod.

ace3g
07-16-2025, 01:37 PM
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Dylan Harper will sit for the remainder of the San Antonio Spurs’ summer league run, per the team. KellyIko
and I wrote about his debut against Cooper Flagg, where Harper showed some exciting defensive versatility and a good feel for how to get to his shots in the paint. He has a lot to work on reading the floor but has been saying the right things about how he will work to get a feel for running point in the NBA:

https://theathletic.com/6490527/2025/07/12/cooper-flagg-dylan-harper-mavericks-spurs-summer-league/?source=emp_shared_article

scottspurs
07-16-2025, 01:43 PM
We knew this was coming and it’s probably the right decision but would have been nice to see one more game. Hopefully Carter Bryant can have a signature game offensively and Jones-Garcia wins MVP. A summer league championship would be nice too but I’m not sure if the Spurs will have enough firepower

Mugen
07-16-2025, 01:45 PM
Good move to shut Harper down and keep Carter playing tbh.

Ice009
07-16-2025, 02:36 PM
Darn, was hoping they'd let him play it out. I was hoping for at least one more game.

It looked to me like the Spurs were going to let Steph play out SL last year if he didn't get injured (do you guys think they would have?). I think he played in the whatever the previous league was and one Vegas SL game and then got the wrist injury and sat out.

TheDoctor
07-16-2025, 02:45 PM
Probably Harper’s heartless chest pain moved to his groin after the horrible game he just had and MATFO decided to shut him down.

BatManu20
07-16-2025, 03:32 PM
Need at least one decent offensive outing from Carter Bryant before SL is over to give us a glimmer of hope tbh.

CorrectCrusader
07-16-2025, 03:36 PM
So Yang has been playing well? I saw that he had a good first game, but haven't followed up on the games he's played after.

Any word on if D-Harp will be playing in the next game?

Very solid offensive hub center with some rim protection potential.
I see him being a great backup at minimum for a long time.

spurs10
07-16-2025, 03:41 PM
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Dylan Harper will sit for the remainder of the San Antonio Spurs’ summer league run, per the team. Kelly (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=9181)Iko
and I wrote about his debut against Cooper Flagg, where Harper showed some exciting defensive versatility and a good feel for how to get to his shots in the paint. He has a lot to work on reading the floor but has been saying the right things about how he will work to get a feel for running point in the NBA:

https://theathletic.com/6490527/2025/07/12/cooper-flagg-dylan-harper-mavericks-spurs-summer-league/?source=emp_shared_article That's a shame. Doubt we will go far if we make the semis. Then again, with Jones MVP Garcia on the team anything could happen. Why the heck hasn't that young man been signed? We need a shooter like him, of course. Minix is already on a two-way contract, correct?

TD 21
07-16-2025, 03:47 PM
That's a shame. Doubt we will go far if we make the semis. Then again, with Jones MVP Garcia on the team anything could happen. Why the heck hasn't that young man been signed? We need a shooter like him, of course. Minix is already on a two-way contract, correct?

Because it's a two-way street and it's unlikely the Spurs are the only team expressing interest.

From his perspective, it doesn't make sense to sign with a team that has as much shot creation/guard depth as this one.

spurs10
07-16-2025, 03:54 PM
Because it's a two-way street and it's unlikely the Spurs are the only team expressing interest.

From his perspective, it doesn't make sense to sign with a team that has as much shot creation/guard depth as this one. Yes, makes sense. I was just hoping to scoop him up because his 3 pt shooting looks to be elite. Then again, SL might not be the same as against NBA veterans. Many of our guards look to be below average from the 3. Somebody will grab him.

ace3g
07-16-2025, 04:33 PM
Kings won today and move to 4-0

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwAmGNbW0AEtQi-?format=jpg&name=medium

spurraider21
07-16-2025, 04:38 PM
clifford's been killing it, but this is also something that you probably expect from an older prospect

Ice009
07-16-2025, 05:10 PM
So what did you guys think of Cooper? I think I was wrong about Luka and my Manu comparison when he was first drafted. I thought Luka could be a Manu like player, as in, with intangibles as well as offense. He turned out to be a much better offensive player quite quickly, but never brought anything on the defensive end. I think Cooper is going to be that guy. He does it all and I love how hard he plays. Reminds me of Manu in that he seems to want to do whatever it takes to win the game. It's not all just about offensive with him. He's looking like he could be a souped-up Manu all round player that will do whatever is needed to win the game.

TheDoctor
07-16-2025, 05:24 PM
Cooper is the truth.

ace3g
07-16-2025, 06:03 PM
Wolves 4th quarter comeback now 4-0

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwA7Is8XEAEhOUZ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

SpursGenius
07-16-2025, 06:31 PM
I thought Flagg would be above average. Not star. But I maybe wrong.

CGD
07-16-2025, 07:12 PM
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Dylan Harper will sit for the remainder of the San Antonio Spurs’ summer league run, per the team. KellyIko
and I wrote about his debut against Cooper Flagg, where Harper showed some exciting defensive versatility and a good feel for how to get to his shots in the paint. He has a lot to work on reading the floor but has been saying the right things about how he will work to get a feel for running point in the NBA:

https://theathletic.com/6490527/2025/07/12/cooper-flagg-dylan-harper-mavericks-spurs-summer-league/?source=emp_shared_article

Makes sense. Two games seems to be the polite showing for the big names. Think it was the same for Wemby and Steph

exstatic
07-16-2025, 07:23 PM
I thought Flagg would be above average. Not star. But I maybe wrong.

I never agreed about the generational thing, but he can be something really, really good, like a white Jason Tatum.

ambchang
07-16-2025, 07:27 PM
Flagg can be a Scottie Pippen type, of which it would be an incredible player, borderline or even actual mvp. If he can up his offensive game he’d be incredible. Like a best of between Pippen and Paul George, a multiple time MVP. I’d call that generational.

intlspurshk
07-16-2025, 08:02 PM
Clifford could be the new Derrick White

exstatic
07-16-2025, 08:10 PM
Flagg can be a Scottie Pippen type, of which it would be an incredible player, borderline or even actual mvp. If he can up his offensive game he’d be incredible. Like a best of between Pippen and Paul George, a multiple time MVP. I’d call that generational.

There’s an MVP every year, but the generational one should win it every year.

Ice009
07-16-2025, 08:45 PM
Flagg can be a Scottie Pippen type, of which it would be an incredible player, borderline or even actual mvp. If he can up his offensive game he’d be incredible. Like a best of between Pippen and Paul George, a multiple time MVP. I’d call that generational.

Absolutely. I agree. He plays freaking hard and can do it all. If his offense matches the rest of his game, yeah, he could get into that stratosphere. Unfortunately, I'm going to watch Dallas games just because of Cooper. I hate that he went to the Mavs, but I really like him as a player.

ambchang
07-16-2025, 09:41 PM
There’s an MVP every year, but the generational one should win it every year.

That’s only bird Jordan LeBron and Jokic in the history of the league (wilt and Russell canceled each other out). I’d call that more than generational as I’d call those GOATs.

Even Shaq, Duncan, Robinson, Hakeem, and magic never had a stretch where they should’ve won the mvp for multiple years, and they were generational prospects who lived up to the hype when drafted.

But to clarify, I’m saying Flagg isn’t generational in my eyes right now, but if he could be a Pippen with a Paul George offensive game (should've added in with that winning attitude ala Manu) then he’d be a generational talent. Not that he’s a generational prospect now. You are looking at a TMac with killer d more or less. That would be better than Durant. But I doubt he’d get there.

ace3g
07-16-2025, 10:25 PM
Wolves 4th quarter comeback now 4-0

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwA7Is8XEAEhOUZ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

Thunder helping out their point differential

3:36 - 4th





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scott
07-16-2025, 10:33 PM
SAS-CHA game tomorrow will knock someone out of the semis

ace3g
07-16-2025, 10:41 PM
Update after the Thunder win

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwB62QQWEAArYHN?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

exstatic
07-17-2025, 07:49 AM
The Timberwolves are in the most precarious position, having the worst net rating. Doubt they can make that up in one game. We need to beat the shit out of Charlotte.

Spurs Homer
07-17-2025, 09:19 AM
almost-white stephie curry was the refs darling...untouchable...

actually-white cooper flagg will get moar foul calls than almost -white stephie!

book it!

Ocotillo
07-17-2025, 01:46 PM
I'm liking this Noyes guy. I missed when he was hired so I looked him up and he came from the developmental side of Memphis and I don't know if he was the reason or how much he had to do with it but Memphis was doing good player development and drafting recently.

pad300
07-17-2025, 03:24 PM
There’s an MVP every year, but the generational one should win it every year.

So there's never been a generational guy in the history of the league?

Jordan won 5 of 13 with the Bulls (not counting his Wizards time). Lebron won 4 over a 20+ year career. Bill Russell got 5 of 13 as well. Wemby is 0 for 3 to date... Your expectations are much too high.

exstatic
07-17-2025, 05:22 PM
So there's never been a generational guy in the history of the league?

Jordan won 5 of 13 with the Bulls (not counting his Wizards time). Lebron won 4 over a 20+ year career. Bill Russell got 5 of 13 as well. Wemby is 0 for 3 to date... Your expectations are much too high.

Did you see the phrase “did win it every year” in my post? No? That’s because it wasn’t in my post. All three of those guys should have won more than they did, a lot more, but it was often “someone else’s turn”.


Wilt > MJ > Bron > Wemby

Each was a freak in their own way, defying any kind of “type”.

DAF86
07-17-2025, 05:29 PM
Is Dylan playing?

tonight...you
07-17-2025, 05:38 PM
Is Dylan playing?
They pulled him for the rest of SL.

heyheymymy
07-17-2025, 05:55 PM
So Spurs need to win tonight by like at least 18 pts

BackHome
07-17-2025, 09:15 PM
Torta is signing

ace3g
07-22-2025, 09:23 PM
San Antonio Spurs
On the team’s draft: “We were so fortunate to have that luck in the lottery. Getting Dylan (Harper) was just one of those things that happens and you’re so thankful for it. It was a cameo out here (Las Vegas), but you can see how special he is. A terrific competitor and I know our coaches are excited about watching him and De’Aaron (Fox) and Stephon (Castle) battling it out and making each other better,” a Spurs front office executive said. “Carter (Bryant) fits what we want too. He’s tough, he defends and we think there’s a lot more there offensively than what he showed in college. Really excited to have him.”

On adding size this offseason: “When Victor (Wembanyama) went down last year, it really showed that we needed more up front. The opportunity to sign Luke Kornet was perfect. He can start or he can come off the bench. The guys in Boston couldn’t have said better things about Luke as a person and a player. We’re thrilled to have him,” a Spurs front office executive said. “Then the chance to add Kelly (Olynyk) came up later, but we’re glad it did. We had a lot of guards after the draft, so we were able to move a couple of our younger guys to add Kelly. The best part with both Kelly and Luke is that they can play with Victor or they can play together.”

On a potential contract extension for De’Aaron Fox: “When we made that trade, we knew what the contract status was, of course. We see De’Aaron as someone who can grow with our young players and be a real leader for us. We’re hopeful we can make something happen to keep him in San Antonio for a long time,” a Spurs front office executive said.”

On Victor Wembanyama’s recovery: “Everything seems to be going according to plan. He’s spoken about feeling pretty good recently. Nothing seemed to be anything that would linger after the issue was addressed. We’re excited to get him back on the floor with the rest of our group, and our new guys,” a Spurs front office executive said.

https://x.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1947783022763282854

Spurs Brazil
07-25-2025, 05:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr8oRFouyxE

Ice009
07-26-2025, 09:15 AM
Awesome to see some behind the scenes stuff in that video for the SL. Wish there was more behind the scenes stuff.

ChumpDumper
07-26-2025, 12:00 PM
Don't know if there's any significance for the San Antonio Spurs, but while Jameer Nelson Jr. and Kyle Mangas have resumed playing in Canada, Osayi Osifo has not.

Bruno
07-26-2025, 04:04 PM
If the 3 2-ways players are Jones-Garcia, Minix and Ingram, Spurs will need to get a good PG and a good C with exhibit 10 contracts for Austin. Exhibit 10 bonus is $85K this year which isn't negligible. Scott King seems to be a good coach. It would be nice if he remains at the helm of the team.

The Austin team playing good basketball will be even more important for Spurs if they start to send there Carter Bryant.

ChumpDumper
07-26-2025, 04:23 PM
If the 3 2-ways players are Jones-Garcia, Minix and Ingram, Spurs will need to get a good PG and a good C with exhibit 10 contracts for Austin. Exhibit 10 bonus is $85K this year which isn't negligible. Scott King seems to be a good coach. It would be nice if he remains at the helm of the team.

The Austin team playing good basketball will be even more important for Spurs if they start to send there Carter Bryant.

Yeah, Nelson is fine off the bench at this point but a more steady hand should start.

Mensah signed in Romania(?) so I guess Diallo in penciled in to start rn. Again, better suited for the bench.

cutewizard
07-27-2025, 02:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr8oRFouyxE