View Full Version : ESPN article on possible trades for Cooper Flagg
Obstructed_View
06-02-2025, 10:05 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45425353/potential-trades-top-2025-nba-draft-pick-cooper-flagg-dallas-mavericks
The first scenario is the Spurs trade both picks this year, the Atlanta pick, and give the swap back to Dallas.
Thoughts? My humble opinion is you jump on that. Vic, Castle and Coop gives you as bright a future as the Spurs have ever had.
TimDunkem
06-02-2025, 10:06 AM
Dallas is keeping the pick.
Poolboy5623
06-02-2025, 10:09 AM
We're still doing this??
Aggie Hoopsfan
06-02-2025, 10:29 AM
Dallas isn't trading Flagg without someone ponying up for a new identity for Nico. Can we put these to an end.
baseline bum
06-02-2025, 10:30 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45425353/potential-trades-top-2025-nba-draft-pick-cooper-flagg-dallas-mavericks
The first scenario is the Spurs trade both picks this year, the Atlanta pick, and give the swap back to Dallas.
Thoughts? My humble opinion is you jump on that. Vic, Castle and Coop gives you as bright a future as the Spurs have ever had.
In a second. No chance Dallas bites though.
Obstructed_View
06-02-2025, 10:55 AM
Dallas isn't trading Flagg without someone ponying up for a new identity for Nico. Can we put these to an end.
You should probably be bitching to ESPN, not me. Sorry for wanting to talk about the Spurs on Spurstalk. No idea what possessed me.
Obstructed_View
06-02-2025, 10:56 AM
We're still doing this??
Talking about the Spurs? Yep.
TekXX
06-02-2025, 10:57 AM
Dallas won't be trading the pick, they are taking Cooper Flagg.
Obstructed_View
06-02-2025, 10:57 AM
In a second. No chance Dallas bites though.
In a sane world, I would agree. The Mavs just made the stupidest trade in the history of sports. 4 picks for CF is downright sensible in comparison.
Mr. Body
06-02-2025, 11:00 AM
There is absolutely a chance that Flagg doesn't wind up in a Dallas Mavericks jersey and it's silly to refuse to think so.
SpursFan86
06-02-2025, 11:07 AM
There is absolutely a chance that Flagg doesn't wind up in a Dallas Mavericks jersey and it's silly to refuse to think so.
Sure, of course there is a chance. I’d peg it at <5% though. I think pretty much the only way Dallas trades Flagg is if his camp makes it very clear that he wants no part of Dallas.
Nico has been talking about how much they value defense when defending/justifying the Luka trade. He’s likely salivating at the opportunity to add a prospect like Flagg. Not to mention they sorely need to give the fanbase something to be happy about again.
spursparker9
06-02-2025, 11:09 AM
Hawks will probably in the play-in for the next few years again. Fucking East is too weak.
Hence, agree to this trade. But Nico won't be an idiot again
TD 21
06-02-2025, 11:15 AM
They kind of did with the one trade, but they'd have been better off basing this premise entirely off of 2 and 3, as opposed to 1, which has no chance of being traded.
Ice009
06-02-2025, 11:17 AM
I really wanted that No. 1 pick when the Spurs were so close to getting it. Not sure what it would take for Dallas to trade it. Also, since learning a bit about Harper, I am going back and forth on how good Dylan Harper could be.
I said it before, kind of need Cooper to indicate to Dallas that he does NOT want to go there.
Leetonidas
06-02-2025, 11:18 AM
I want to be part of the "no way Dallas trades Flagg" camp but given what happened earlier this season i think we can throw all logic out the window
I'm 99% sure they will pick Flagg. But there is also a 1% chance Nico finds some deal that he thinks will make him look like a genius and takes it. Very unlikely but Spurs are one of the few teams in a good position to capitalize on Mavs stupidity
poopbox
06-02-2025, 11:50 AM
People blaming Nico for the Luka trade where clearly the owners didn't want to pay Luka 300 plus million dollars. It wasn't Nico's idea to trade Luka.
Leetonidas
06-02-2025, 11:53 AM
People blaming Nico for the Luka trade where clearly the owners didn't want to pay Luka 300 plus million dollars. It wasn't Nico's idea to trade Luka.
No, it wasn't. But I'm sure it was his idea to trade him for Davis while not shopping him around at all.
It's not necessarily the trading of Luka that was idiotic. It's that we all know he could have gotten a ridiculous haul for him and ultimately settled on an injury prone 32 year old and change
John B
06-02-2025, 12:10 PM
Not on the scenario. But I can see Mavs trading #1 pick Flagg if they get both Giannis and #2 Harper. That would give them a Win now on AD and Thompson’s window. Harper, Thompson, Giannis and AD is a championship team. This makes Nico a genius especially if it gets Mavs another ring or two.
Spurs gets Flagg
Bucks gets Vassell, maybe Lively and multiple FRP’s from Spurs and Mavs, allowing them to have young talents and future firsts to rebuild.
exstatic
06-02-2025, 12:14 PM
Not on the scenario. But I can see Mavs trading #1 pick Flagg if they get both Giannis and #2 Harper. That would give them a Win now on AD and Thompson’s window. Harper, Thompson, Giannis and AD is a championship team. This makes Nico a genius especially if it gets Mavs another ring or two.
Spurs gets Flagg
Bucks gets Vassell, maybe Lively and multiple FRP’s from Spurs and Mavs, allowing them to have young talents and future firsts to rebuild.
There’s no scenario where we send out #2, and don’t get back either Flagg or Giannis. Dallas will not wind up with both.
John B
06-02-2025, 12:31 PM
There’s no scenario where we send out #2, and don’t get back either Flagg or Giannis. Dallas will not wind up with both.
Need a stronger coffee exstatic
Mavs get #2 Harper and Giannis
Spurs gets Flagg
Bucks gets Vassell, Lively and multiple FRP’s (from Spurs and Mavs)
Spursfanfromafar
06-02-2025, 12:38 PM
Need a stronger coffee exstatic (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20)
Mavs get #2 Harper and Giannis
Spurs gets Flagg
Bucks gets Vassell, Lively and multiple FRP’s (from Spurs and Mavs)
The Bucks would ask for either Flagg or Harper if they are going to trade away Giannis. Why get multiple FRPs from the already empowered Mavs and Spurs, which might only be in the late First round? Yours is an irrational proposal/scenario.
spurraider21
06-02-2025, 12:39 PM
remember how annoyed we were at the articles about trading the wemby pick?
exstatic
06-02-2025, 12:40 PM
Need a stronger coffee exstatic
Mavs get #2 Harper and Giannis
Spurs gets Flagg
Bucks gets Vassell, Lively and multiple FRP’s (from Spurs and Mavs)
Bucks want a haul, like KD level, and if the #2 pick is in the trade, they’ll want it, or no deal.
I stand by my statement that Dallas cannot wind up with #2 and Giannis. Milwaukee will not allow that to happen. They will not send out Giannis in a trade that includes picks #1 and #2 and walk away with neither. It’s fantasyland.
Mugen
06-02-2025, 12:47 PM
If Nico trades away Flagg, I could actually see Mavfan kidnapping and murdering him tbh.
baseline bum
06-02-2025, 12:48 PM
Need a stronger coffee exstatic
Mavs get #2 Harper and Giannis
Spurs gets Flagg
Bucks gets Vassell, Lively and multiple FRP’s (from Spurs and Mavs)
Bucks would want Flagg over that grab bag of crap
RC_Drunkford
06-02-2025, 12:55 PM
Those are by far the funniest trade proposals:
Mavs trade Flagg for Giannis, but they trade him to the Spurs for no reason cause Milwaukee would rather have Vassell and 4 low first rounders :lol
You gotta be on drugs to think that’s realistic.
baseline bum
06-02-2025, 12:59 PM
If Nico trades away Flagg, I could actually see Mavfan kidnapping and murdering him tbh.
Especially trading Flagg to San Antonio :lol
baseline bum
06-02-2025, 01:00 PM
Those are by far the funniest trade proposals:
Mavs trade Flagg for Giannis, but they trade him to the Spurs for no reason cause Milwaukee would rather have Vassell and 4 low first rounders :lol
You gotta be on drugs to think that’s realistic.
What if we threw in Bonner and Blair?
jjspur
06-02-2025, 01:23 PM
If Nico trades away Flagg, I could actually see Mavfan kidnapping and murdering him tbh.
That's a bit harsh, but I can see him being kidnapped and then being dropped off in some African desert country in his socks and underwear. Laters Nico, you've been fired.
John B
06-02-2025, 01:30 PM
Those are by far the funniest trade proposals:
Mavs trade Flagg for Giannis, but they trade him to the Spurs for no reason cause Milwaukee would rather have Vassell and 4 low first rounders :lol
You gotta be on drugs to think that’s realistic.
We’re all just playing couch GM’s here and the FO would care less of our opinion. It’s the only scenario I see Nico surviving an assassination from Mavs fans trading Flagg, if they get both Giannis and #2 pick.
Bucks hands are tied if Giannis wants out and picks his destination, a contender. Take your pick, Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, Lively, Atlanta’s 2026 swap, Boston 2028 swap, whatever future picks is on the table imo. No way the Bucks have the upper hand if Giannis wants out.
As for the Spurs, they get Castle, Flagg and Wemby as their future core.
The specifics can be different with how many FRP’s or which young players are included to match salaries.
scott
06-02-2025, 03:02 PM
I want to be part of the "no way Dallas trades Flagg" camp but given what happened earlier this season i think we can throw all logic out the window
I'm 99% sure they will pick Flagg. But there is also a 1% chance Nico finds some deal that he thinks will make him look like a genius and takes it. Very unlikely but Spurs are one of the few teams in a good position to capitalize on Mavs stupidity
Yep. I was in the "no way Dallas trades Luka" camp before. Not making that mistake again :lol
spursistan
06-02-2025, 03:52 PM
Given his druthers, Nico Harrison would trade Flagg for Giannis straight up, but his hands are properly tied right now. He knows he won't last longterm in Dallas, so might as well go all in and get a ring to shore up his reputation and put something on his CV..I feel like the league would step in behind the scenes and put an unofficial veto on a Flagg trade with Adam Silver saying "yeah, I didn't put up with all that "Rigged!" crap for you to double down on stupid"..
A sinking Mavs franchise got thrown a life raft with Cooper Flagg--most hyped white American prospect in decades-- there is zero chance they are letting go of him even if they wanted to for "basketball reasons".
RC_Drunkford
06-02-2025, 04:18 PM
We’re all just playing couch GM’s here and the FO would care less of our opinion.
yeah and some of us bring realistic proposals, while others love science fiction.
It’s the only scenario I see Nico surviving an assassination from Mavs fans trading Flagg, if they get both Giannis and #2 pick.
Bucks hands are tied if Giannis wants out and picks his destination, a contender. Take your pick, Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, Lively, Atlanta’s 2026 swap, Boston 2028 swap, whatever future picks is on the table imo. No way the Bucks have the upper hand if Giannis wants out.
As for the Spurs, they get Castle, Flagg and Wemby as their future core.
The specifics can be different with how many FRP’s or which young players are included to match salaries.
Giannis is under contract for another 2 years. The Bucks can do whatever they want. And one thing they won't do, is trade him for Vassell and a bunch of low first rounders.
Uriel
06-02-2025, 08:06 PM
I actually think the Luka trade made it harder for Nico to do this kind of trade with Flagg. If anything, under normal circumstances, Nico might take a hard look at that offer (#2 + #14 + 2027 Atlanta + pick swap back is a tremendous offer, objectively speaking).
But he probably doesn’t do it precisely because of all the pressure he is under.
Obstructed_View
06-02-2025, 09:52 PM
After a day to contemplate, with Klay and AD on the team, the Mavs don't need draft picks as much as they need players. The Spurs don't have enough detritus to send north to make even Nico pull the trigger.
The idea that Dallas would trade Cooper to the Spurs, their biggest rival, and not get Victor in return is just stupid.
Ice009
06-02-2025, 10:13 PM
Need Cooper to tell Dallas he doesn't want to go there. It's the only way.
exstatic
06-02-2025, 10:26 PM
The idea that Dallas would trade Cooper to the Spurs, their biggest rival, and not get Victor in return is just stupid.
The idea that a Dallas would think they could pull Victor for Flagg is even stupider.
scott
06-02-2025, 10:32 PM
The better hope for trading up from 2 to 1 to get Flagg would have been if NOP landed #1 and were (for whatever stupid reason they came up with) committed to the forwards they have (Zion/TMIII/Herb) wanted that potential star PG to go with them. Flagg just fits too well with Dallas current roster and their stated philosophy.
The idea that a Dallas would think they could pull Victor for Flagg is even stupider.
Agreed. So the whole discussion is pointless.
poopbox
06-04-2025, 07:22 AM
No, it wasn't. But I'm sure it was his idea to trade him for Davis while not shopping him around at all.
It's not necessarily the trading of Luka that was idiotic. It's that we all know he could have gotten a ridiculous haul for him and ultimately settled on an injury prone 32 year old and change
Or...they wouldn't have gotten much for Luka. I think the word is out on him being fat, lazy, and only wanting to play Luka ball. I'm not sure what team is looking into investing 200 million in that other than the Lakers.
And so far. Advantage Nico. Lakers were an all time bad shooting performance away from getting swept by a 6th seed. Not sure I would be in a rush to max a guy out with that being the end result.
quentin_compson
06-04-2025, 06:33 PM
Or...they wouldn't have gotten much for Luka. I think the word is out on him being fat, lazy, and only wanting to play Luka ball. I'm not sure what team is looking into investing 200 million in that other than the Lakers.
And so far. Advantage Nico. Lakers were an all time bad shooting performance away from getting swept by a 6th seed. Not sure I would be in a rush to max a guy out with that being the end result.
I really hope (for your sake) you are trolling with this post.
$pursDynasty
06-06-2025, 09:19 AM
scheme fit Flagg is a better fit on the Spurs than Harper is, but I watched both Flagg, Harper and Bailey as they played the college I went to back in the day (Bama), last year and I truly believe Harper is the best prospect out of the three. So while a SF/PF might fit better on the Spurs roster, Harper is the better overall prospect.
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