Shams: Spurs Have Signed C Luke Kornet to 4-yr/$41M Deal

[BatManu20]

LFG tbh.

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Free agent center Luke Kornet has agreed to a four-year, $41 million deal with the San Antonio Spurs, sources tell ESPN. Key frontcourt addition for the Spurs, who negotiated a contract tonight with Kornet's agent Max Wiepking of Gersh Sports.

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[NASpurs]

Finally. This is why we refresh.

[Mnky]

:lobt:

Yabuselle next.

[Spurs9]

Can we get Yabu too?

[Big Empty]

So how good or bad is he?

[TimmyBuckets]

Bit of an overpay for him, but still less than the MLE. LFG!!!

[Big Empty]

7’2 250 we atleast match up with OKC and can throw him on the Joker

[vy65]

Like it, but this is an overpay

[BatManu20]

Didn’t expect 4 years but likely had to in order to steal him from Boston. Great signing at our biggest position of need.

[LeBowen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Yf9QJd3f8

Can't wait for Wemby to adapt Kornet Kontest.

[TimmyBuckets]

Damn it though Cappella for way cheaper to Houston. Man that sucks.

[benefactor]

Apparently he's pure entertainment gold too

[TD 21]

The aav is fine, the term is not. Let's hope the 4th season is a t/o or partial guarantee.

Spurs finally acquire an analytics darling, though going from the five out spacing of the Celtics to sub par spacing of the Spurs + an increased role could have an adverse effect.

[CGD]

Great pick up. Dude is underrated.

[Seventyniner]

Can't wait for Wemby to adapt Kornet Kontest.

With Wemby's length he might get an accidental block or two doing that.

[Mugen]

1yr too many but was probably needed to pry him away from Boston. Nice to have another rim protector now tbh.

[Gibbz]

Bang!

[jeebus]

Team option for 4th year. Excellent deal tbh

[NASpurs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTyh-4Y7e5o

[spurs10]

Apparently he's pure entertainment gold too That's what I heard as well. Gonna be fun!

[Seventyniner]

I can't wait for the Kornet/Coach B interview.

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[Seventyniner]

Will he wear jersey #41 for the $41M contract? #40 is taken, unless the Spurs trade Barnes.

[vy65]

That option makes this much more palatable

[Mugen]

4th year is a team option, nvm great deal!

[Gibbz]

Y'all saying 10 aav for a great backup center is an overpay are high.

[vy65]

Apparently he's pure entertainment gold too

Best quote from him I’ve seen, after a W over UTA, Derrick is being interview, LK grabs the mic:

“I haven’t seen a white kill jazz like that since Ryan Gosling in La La Land.”

I think I’m in love

[Trill Clinton]

Love it. He's a hard worker, lunch pal kinda guy. Great motor and a fiirst one in last one out type of vet this team needs.

[TimmyBuckets]

Y'all saying 10 aav for a great backup center is an overpay are high.

I honestly thought we'd pay more of the MLE for him. Not a steal by any means, but not a crazy overpay.

[DAF86]

Since this seems to be the OG thread, I'm gonna post my initial reaction here.


I hope I'm wrong, but this isn't it, tbh.

The Spurs needed a more versatile player. Adding another non-shooter is unlikely to be the answer, even as a center. I would have been cool with this type of signing on a shorter contract, but 4 years? I don't like it.

Fox-------------Harper
Castle ------ Champagnie
Vassell ------ Keldon
Barnes ------- Sochan
Wemby ------- Kornet

I'm not sure that's a playoffs team, tbh.

[BatManu20]

They’ll mostly stagger minutes, but Jumbo lineups with Wemby and Kornet will be intriguing and potentially useful vs big teams like OKC.

[jeebus]

Y'all saying 10 aav for a great backup center is an overpay are high.

Probably the same people who thought Dillingham was the key to a championship squad

[NASpurs]

Love it. He's a hard worker, lunch pal kinda guy. Great mother and a fiirst one in last one out type of vet this team needs.

We're signing and drafting guys with great mothers. Good to see.

[RC_Drunkford]

Kornet is a back up C with a crazy net rating like when we had Poeltl coming off the bench. 152 Ortg and 110 Drtg is crazy work. All advanced stats are positives and he’s a very good rim protector.

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[Trill Clinton]

We're signing and drafting guys with great mothers. Good to see.

ah damn I meant motor. But yea, Luke's mama is cool too.

[bdictjames]

Great signing. Should be a good challenge for Wemby in practice. I think this takes Sochan out of center, which is much needed. Way to go Spurs!

[poopbox]

10 is actually an underpay for Luke tbh. Boston most not have been willing to go to 3 years cause he could have gotten that from them.

People saying they wanted Capella must not have seen him recently in ATL. He has lost a step or 12. He might be ok in Houston where he is surrounded by athletic defenders but he would have been awful here on the court with trash like Devin and Keldon.

[SpursFan86]

I like it. Definitely wouldn’t consider it some insane value like a couple of the other signings we’ve seen so far but it’s totally reasonable and he’ll fill a huge need of ours. Having Kornet in there for those non-Wemby minutes will be infinitely better than what we were dealing with last year.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Great title btw

[BatManu20]

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[024]

Glad the Spurs got this done and the Celtics didn't find any team to dump the Simmons contract. Could be a slight overpay especially seeing all these 2 year 16-20M contracts but it was likely needed to outbid a few other teams. If the 4th year is a team option (where is that confirmed?), that is even better.

[timtonymanu]

Oh hell yeah! I know the Spurs still have a lot of work to do but this is easily an A+ offseason even if they don’t do anything else.

[Mugen]

Since this seems to be the OG thread, I'm gonna post my initial reaction here.

Defense has been shit for way too long now. This signing helps address that along with the Sweeney hiring. I'll take it tbh.

[NASpurs]

Kornet is a back up C with a crazy net rating like when we had Poeltl coming off the bench. 152 Ortg and 110 Drtg is crazy work. All advanced stats are positives and he’s a very good rim protector.

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A lot of the moves they've done in the off season and draft points on focusing on defense next year (KJ and Branham gone?). Hopefully the Spurs will be a top 5 defense next year.

[mystargtr34]

Spurs ranked 26th and 25th in defensive rebounding and defensive rating last year. They were middle of the pack in 3 point shooting.

Defense and rebounding are a much bigger need than shooting especially at the backup C spot.

[LeBowen]

Kornet is a back up C with a crazy net rating like when we had Poeltl coming off the bench. 152 Ortg and 110 Drtg is crazy work. All advanced stats are positives and he’s a very good rim protector.

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For me the best thing is that he's a high IQ player, we won't be seeing any of the awful decisions Collins and Bassey were making on offense.
4:1 assist turnover ratio this season, small sample, but still.
He's perfect at making the extra pass from short rolls and kicking it out to the right man after offensive rebounds.

[Mnky]

Think people underestimate his defense tbh. When he plays, he's legitimately one of the better centers in the league at defense because he has great size, good athletic ability and his IQ is very good. He just knows ball.

How will a bigger role impact him? Will be fun to see. If he plays with Wemby, man that help defense is going to make the paint hell for spurs opponents. With two true paint protectors, running 3 guards works pretty well. Especially when two of them have arguably sf size.

[BatManu20]

Kornet will likely wear #23, as he wore it in high school and #40 is already taken by Barnes.

Zollins was the last player to wear that number. Hopefully our new White Center is much better than the last tbh.

[Dejounte]

It’s coming together baby. 6th seed in the playoffs at worst

[Seventyniner]

Having either an elite or all-Universe rim protector (or both!!!!) on the court at all times should do wonders for the defense. Coach Sweeney be like

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[TimDunkem]

Y'all saying 10 aav for a great backup center is an overpay are high.

Most ST-er's takes are stuck in the Duncan era, tbh.

[Spurs Brazil]

https://x.com/owenlhjphillips/status/1939829839034536338

[NASpurs]

We stacked?

[BatManu20]

Hopefully we’ll be seeing some of his patented "Kornet Contests" when he’s too far to close out tbh.


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[TimDunkem]

They’ll mostly stagger minutes, but Jumbo lineups with Wemby and Kornet will be intriguing and potentially useful vs big teams like OKC.

Twin tower thing slowly coming back. The Spurs C rotation will be great for those scenarios.

[Spurs Brazil]

KevinOConnorNBA

Best backup of Wemby's career...and Spurs two-big lineups are gonna be crazy fun to watch.

[TimmyBuckets]

This is a minimum Play-in team, and probable playoff team now. 6-7 at best. 8-9th at worst.

[Mnky]

https://x.com/owenlhjphillips/status/1939829839034536338

Yea I don't think people appreciate how good of a team defender kornet is. He's a lot bigger than people realize too.

Plus, he has the type of IQ you want on the court in meaningful games. Really happy the Spurs got him.

[TekXX]

Is this like Will Perdue?

[DAF86]

Spurs ranked 26th and 25th in defensive rebounding and defensive rating last year. They were middle of the pack in 3 point shooting.

Defense and rebounding are a much bigger need than shooting especially at the backup C spot.

That defense and defensive rebounding won't be of much help when our entire bench unit is bricking 3 after 3. Also, I want to see how good Kronet defense is when the ones guarding on the perimeter aren't White, Holiday, Brown and Tatum but Keldon Johnson instead.

What I'm basically saying is that I need to see Keldon gone before I can be cool with this signing, tbh.

[onechance87]

That defense and defensive rebounding won't be of much help when our entire bench unit is bricking 3 after 3. Also, I want to see how good Kronet defense is when the ones guarding on the perimeter aren't White, Holiday, Brown and Tatum but Keldon Johnson instead.

What I'm basically saying is that I need to see Keldon gone before I can be cool with this signing, tbh.

keldon shouldint be playing at all.

[spurraider21]

i thought this would have been his approximate value but given the other FA signings we've seen, seems a little on the steep side. still, a good player and had been my top center target for the last month and a half.

[TekXX]

I'm glad the FO realizes we need that guy down there to rebound when the rest of the team is poorly chucking from outside.

[mystargtr34]

https://x.com/owenlhjphillips/status/1939829839034536338

This stat was a big reason why I had Kornet above Lopez as a FA target. Lopez was routinely in the top 5 in the league in this stat from 2020-2023 hovering around 50% when the Bucks were contending but regressed significantly the last 2 years to around 56-58% which is slightly above average. Could be due to a difference defensive scheme under Doc, but more likely due to age, loss of foot speed.

[vy65]

Does a Castle/Bryant/Sochan/Wemby/Kornet lineup work? Probably not offensively, but that could be sick defensively

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Anyone’s an upgrade over Zach Collins

[Robz4000]

Solid signing, especially if that last year is a team option.

[spurraider21]

Love it. He's a hard worker, lunch pal kinda guy. Great motor and a fiirst one in last one out type of vet this team needs.
he's the kind of guy you want stuffing your daughter

[DAF86]

keldon shouldint be playing at all.

But you know he will.

[TekXX]

Boston replaced 10 million Kornet with 5.5 million Luka Garza

[scott]

Need a Kornet/Bonner podcast STAT

[LeBowen]

Boston replaced 10 million Kornet with 5.5 million Luka Garza

Garza is amazing offensively and tragic on defense.

[TekXX]

he's the kind of guy you want stuffing your daughter

TBH he looks like the type to go young.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

We still need a stretch 4 over 6'8"

[DPG21920]

I am happy with Kornet as a fit on the team and addresses a need.

I dont love that he got more APY and the longest deal of any back up center signed today. Reed, Capela, Lopez, Looney, Sharpe all got less per year and less years. I really dont understand why SA does this so much.

Not end of the world but kind of annoying to me.

[Spurs Brazil]

KeithSmithNBA


So happy for Luke Kornet. No way the Celtics were going to be able to match that contract. Spurs fans are going to love Kornet!

[BatManu20]

We still need a stretch 4 over 6'8"

John Collins is right there. But PATFO seemingly have no interest. For shame tbh.

[mystargtr34]

TBH he looks like the type to go young.

Send him to Utah tbh

[jeebus]

PATFO

Pop is the front office.

[BatManu20]

Apparently he's pure entertainment gold too

Biggest goofball personality we’ve had since Matt Bonner.

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[Ice009]

Need a Kornet/Bonner podcast STAT

Didn't Bonner leave to work for the Raptors a couple of years ago?

[TekXX]

So was Boston offering 9 mill a year?

[Maddog]

His first two years he hit 98 3s in only 66 games at a decent percentage
Also shot a lot of 3s in college.

Any reason for the current lack?
The way he's used?

[spurraider21]

this would be a smart deal to frontload imo. the MLE this year was a little more than 14 mil. kornet is now taking up most of that. i dont know what player we can sign with the remaining balance of that who we couldn't simply sign with the BAE which is just over 5 mil anyway.

whether kornet takes up 9mil or 12 mil of the BAE shouldnt really be material. and could give us more flexibility down the line

[Mnky]

I am happy with Kornet as a fit on the team and addresses a need.

I dont love that he got more APY and the longest deal of any back up center signed today. Reed, Capela, Lopez, Looney, Sharpe all got less per year and less years. I really dont understand why SA does this so much.

Not end of the world but kind of annoying to me.

They won and got the best option. You got to learn to enjoy life bro. Modelo time. :lol

[Dejounte]

We still need a stretch 4 over 6'8"

We can get him next year

it’s not like a rookie Dylan and a sophomore Castle is gonna get us deep into the playoffs to make use of a PF that fits this year.

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[TDomination]

i just saw 2 minutes videos of him and i already like the guy.

[Spurs Brazil]

https://x.com/spursbeliever/status/1939844759876730998

[scott]

We can get him next year

it’s not like a rookie Dylan and a sophomore Castle is gonna get us deep into the playoffs to make use of a PF that fits this year.

Wemby and Fox could carry you into a second round playoff appearance if they had something like a... PF that fits.

[Mugen]

Just signed the best big in the Wemby era and people are upset that he's making a few mil more than Clint Capela tbh :lol

[Spurs Brazil]

BobbyMarks42


Prior tonight

Career earnings for Luke Kornet

$13.3M

Signing with San Antonio

$41M

[mystargtr34]

Luke is an elite offensive rebounder which will pair really with Vassell on offense tbh.

[Ice009]

Looks like Jake Fischer was right. Said that Kornet got a contract for 10M+ and was happy for him. Seeing that career earnings, I can now see why. Good on Luke for earning that payday. I hope he plays well for the Spurs and helps the team become a legit playoff team.

[Dejounte]

Wemby and Fox could carry you into a second round playoff appearance if they had something like a... PF that fits.
Second round aint deep enough for a commitment that big. Caps the ceiling long term tbh

[RC_Drunkford]

Just signed the best big in the Wemby era and people are upset that he's making a few mil more than Clint Capela tbh :lol

especially cause he‘s better than Capela

[mystargtr34]

This looks like a Sweeney signing tbh. Bro has just had 48 MPG of Lively and Gafford the last couple years, no way he is settling for Charles Bassey or Bismarck Biyombo for 20 MPG.

[SpursBills]

https://i.postimg.cc/XJ73jgLq/Kornet-Prop.jpg

People see 6 points / 5 rebounds average and automatically jump to conclusions. 4/40 with a team option is a reasonable deal for this type of player who's not clearly in decline. Immaculate locker room vibes are just a bonus

[timtonymanu]

Celtics fans loved this guy. He'll be a perfect fit here.

[DPG21920]

Just signed the best big in the Wemby era and people are upset that he's making a few mil more than Clint Capela tbh :lol

Yes. I remember so many on here making same arguments for Collins :lol

[scott]

Second round aint deep enough for a commitment that big. Caps the ceiling long term tbh

The commitment to Fox was/is significantly larger than whatever commitment would be required to get a PF that fits (and the "commitment" can be short term). If you aren't willing to make the next commitment, why make the first one?

[paperboy77]

LFG tbh.

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Free agent center Luke Kornet has agreed to a four-year, $41 million deal with the San Antonio Spurs, sources tell ESPN. Key frontcourt addition for the Spurs, who negotiated a contract tonight with Kornet's agent Max Wiepking of Gersh Sports.

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OK lets..... fuckikng.... go!

[Dex]

John Collins is right there. But PATFO seemingly have no interest. For shame tbh.

Collins makes $26M next year. It's not as easy as being like...hey John, you want to come play here?

If Utah doesn't like our spare parts we would include in a trade, not much PATFO can do about that.

[Uriel]

I am happy with Kornet as a fit on the team and addresses a need.

I dont love that he got more APY and the longest deal of any back up center signed today. Reed, Capela, Lopez, Looney, Sharpe all got less per year and less years. I really dont understand why SA does this so much.

Not end of the world but kind of annoying to me.
How would you rank those bigs in order of preference?

[timtonymanu]

John Collins is right there. But PATFO seemingly have no interest. For shame tbh.

They're really banking on Sochan. Let's hope his 3 point shot actually improved and isn't just some practice highlights nonsense.

[Dejounte]

The commitment to Fox was/is significantly larger than whatever commitment would be required to get a PF that fits (and the "commitment" can be short term). If you aren't willing to make the next commitment, why make the first one?
The difference is the caliber of player Fox is and the caliber of whatever scraps is left out there available in FA or in trade. Because Fox is the type of player he is, it’s easier to shed ourselves of him if the situation calls for it whereas whatever “ideal fit” PF folks are dreaming about right now will be far from ideal because 1) we don’t have the assets to get anyone actually good and 2) let’s be real, John Collins is nowhere near as good a player for this team as people are saying he is. It’s funny because i’m the guy usually pro trade and anti-do nothing, but JC ain’t it. Dude is mid.

[thOOdee]

We still need a stretch 4 over 6'8"

carter will reach 6’8

[scott]

The difference is the caliber of player Fox is and the caliber of whatever scraps is left out there available in FA or in trade. Because Fox is the type of player he is, it’s easier to shed ourselves of him if the situation calls for it whereas whatever “ideal fit” PF folks are dreaming about right now will be far from ideal because 1) we don’t have the assets to get anyone actually good and 2) let’s be real, John Collins is nowhere near as good a player for this team as people are saying he is. It’s funny because i’m the guy usually pro trade and anti-do nothing, but JC ain’t it. Dude is mid.

We're talking about the 5th option in our line up (in the case of John Collins). Mid would be an upgrade.

But there are other options that don't require much of a commitment at all that would still help our PF position, even if not a starter. We don't have any PFs on our roster currently, just a bunch of SFs who we play at PF because we have no other options. Spurs should do something about that. Doing nothing will limit how far the Spurs can go. You say "second round isn't good enough" for whatever menial commitment would be required... but is not making the second round good enough for the commitment required to bring in and keep Fox? You can't simply excuse that commitment because you think you can trade him later. That's just foolish logic.

[heyheymymy]

KORN DOG

[DAF86]

"We are not good enough yet, so there's no reason to try and adress our needs" is certainly a take, tbh. :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Mid John Collins would be the third best player on the entire roster tbh

[TimDunkem]

Luke is an elite offensive rebounder which will pair really with Vassell on offense tbh.

You are being facetious, but this is legitimately one of many reasons why Korn is a great add. He's going to clean up a lot of Vassell and KJ bricks.

[mystargtr34]

You are being facetious, but this is legitimately one of many reasons why Korn is a great add. He's going to clean up a lot of Vassell and KJ bricks.

It won the Lakers a championship with Bynum-Pau cleaning up Kirby’s bricks so why not.

[Rosewood]

Perfect pick up. This year is gonna be fun to watch!

[mystargtr34]

Someone posted a video or Kornet shooting 3’s, I looked up his BBRef stats and back in 2017-2021this mfer was jacking 3’s at a reasonable clip.

70-193 for 36% from 3 in 2018-2019. Then it kind of went south the next year and he stopped shooting.

[SpursFan86]

I think anyone complaining about the money is being a little silly. The Spurs just addressed their biggest need within 2 hours of FA starting, and did it with arguably the best candidate out there. Even if you think he’s only worth $8MM/year (which I disagree with fwiw), is that really worth harping on?

Kornet is the exact type of big we need. Now let’s just add someone who can play the 3/4 and shoot + defend at a respectable level and we’re cooking.

[marinoman]

Is yabusele still in play, I really like him

[BatManu20]

Someone posted a video or Kornet shooting 3’s, I looked up his BBRef stats and back in 2017-2021this mfer was jacking 3’s at a reasonable clip.

70-193 for 36% from 3 in 2018-2019. Then it kind of went south the next year and he stopped shooting.


Yea he was shooting the 3 ball at about league average his first 2 years in the league. Then he had a down year shooting his 3rd year and he basically stopped. Need to bring back this version of Kornet cause that would be a really nice weapon to have offensively off the bench and would really help space the floor for our second unit.

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[Dejounte]

We're talking about the 5th option in our line up (in the case of John Collins). Mid would be an upgrade.

But there are other options that don't require much of a commitment at all that would still help our PF position, even if not a starter. We don't have any PFs on our roster currently, just a bunch of SFs who we play at PF because we have no other options. Spurs should do something about that. Doing nothing will limit how far the Spurs can go. You say "second round isn't good enough" for whatever menial commitment would be required... but is not making the second round good enough for the commitment required to bring in and keep Fox? You can't simply excuse that commitment because you think you can trade him later. That's just foolish logic.
We’re … probably just gonna keep going back and forth on this until one of us gets tired. It’s clear we’re not going to see eye to eye on this. Saying the spurs don’t have any PFs is a stretch and not objectively true. You may not think they’re good enough there, and that would be a fair statement. The Spurs have not not done anything - they addressed a serious need (i know you didn’t make that post, but you agreed with it) so i’m not sure why my take is being misrepresented that way. Making another Kornet type move but for the PF spot is certainly something I wouldnt be opposed to, it’s anything way beyond that that I would be opposed.

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Is yabusele still in play, I really like him

Him or someone like him. If it's not Collins, then whoever. We need the next Barnes replacement (I'd even be willing to give up some in 3P% for better rebounding and same defense).

[Spursfanfromafar]

Yabusele and if not possible, Larry Nance Jr to round it up and consider it a great offseason.

[DPG21920]

How would you rank those bigs in order of preference?

Two ways: if money was all equal - Sharpe/Kornet tie, Lopez, Reed, Capela, Looney

With contracts that were handed out - Sharpe, Lopez, Kornet Reed, Capela, Looney

[spursistan]

Best Back-up C on the market, of course he is going to demand the most guaranteed money. Not sure what the fuss is about :lol

I love Wemby, but it is pretty clear he is never going to be a shoo in for 80 games/35mpg every season and more like a 72-74 games guy whose minutes load getting constantly watched at least in the regular season. Spurs needed legit help to alleviate their rebounding/rim protections issues in non-Wemby minutes.

Kornet is a tier above B.Lopez/Capela and the likes at this stage of their careers and the price is only marginally higher. No-brainer signing.

[R. DeMurre]

I love this move so much. He’s a late bloomer with a high BBIQ, his WS/48 the last two years has been elite, he’s a great offensive rebounder, and his assist to turnover ratio was 4:1 last year. If he just backs Wemby up he’ll be worth it, but if it turns out he & Wemby can play together effectively for short stints, it could be the most underrated move of the summer.

[BatManu20]

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[spursistan]

I love this move so much. He’s a late bloomer with a high BBIQ, his WS/48 the last two years has been elite, he’s a great offensive rebounder, and his assist to turnover ratio was 4:1 last year. If he just backs Wemby up he’ll be worth it, but if it turns out he & Wemby can play together effectively for short stints, it could be the most underrated move of the summer.
Yeah not a lot mileage on his body (only 350 career games) or any significant injury history. This contract should cover the meat of his prime.

[Marcus Bryant]

Good signing. Think he’ll get a chance to dust off his 3 point shot.

[spurraider21]

Seems it’s a team option in the last year too

[sfernald]

Think people underestimate his defense tbh. When he plays, he's legitimately one of the better centers in the league at defense because he has great size, good athletic ability and his IQ is very good. He just knows ball.

How will a bigger role impact him? Will be fun to see. If he plays with Wemby, man that help defense is going to make the paint hell for spurs opponents. With two true paint protectors, running 3 guards works pretty well. Especially when two of them have arguably sf size.

He's got some great playoff experience too. Ups his game there.

[scottspurs]

Big time Signing! This is what I’ve been waiting for all offseason. Spurs needed a lunch pail guy! Rebounding will definitely be improved. Defense will be improved. Glue guy that will make the right plays on offense. Teams can’t bully the Spurs anymore. Period

[cutewizard]

Yihaaaaaaaaa

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/O3OUadveInY?si=FPeFAacWskoLZwNi

[scott]

Other jersey numbers Kornet has worn as a pro:

#2 (with NYK and CHI) - that's not going to work
#40 (BOS) - currently taken by Barnes
#12 (CLE) - retired
#35 (MIL) - maybe this will be the one.

Would love to see this Korndog go with something funky that we haven't seen something before for the Spurs. Numbers never worn before in Silver & Black: 37 - 39, 46 - 49, 51, 56 - 76, 78 - 89, 91 - 99

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/Z2YP02KGZ9A?si=ubCQyA39Bn5NVOb2

[Thomas82]

Will he wear jersey #41 for the $41M contract? #40 is taken, unless the Spurs trade Barnes.

Maybe he'll take 35, the number he had in Milwaukee.

[Bruno]

With the reported team option on the last year, it's a fine contract. It is just weird that Luke Kornet is getting a bigger contract than Lopez and Capela but it's true that both are showing real sign of slowing down.

As said above, it will be interesting to see what will happen with his 3 point shooting:
- Between 2017 and 2019, Kornet was a really good 3 point shooting.
- Between 2019 and 2022, he kept shooting but his percentages dropped significantly (below 30%).
- Since 2022, he has stopped shooting 3's.
Will Spurs ask him to shoot 3's again because they need it way more that Boston needed it? Will Kornet be able to do it effectively?


I think Spurs are basically done for their off-season. They didn't do what I wished (more changes) but what they did makes some sense. They should just sign 1 or 2 min salary third stringer to fill the roster.
It will be then Fox max extension in August which should be solved in a matter of minutes. Spurs could always asked him to take a little less but giving him the max is a no-brainer.

[Mr. Body]

Brook Lopez and Capela are both slowing down in a massive way. Kornet has good years ahead of him. The contracts make sense.

[T Park]

Is this like Will Perdue?

Ha Will Perdue was solid as hell. However Kornet is way more athletic, better offensively and has good shooting form

[T Park]

I love this move so much. He’s a late bloomer with a high BBIQ, his WS/48 the last two years has been elite, he’s a great offensive rebounder, and his assist to turnover ratio was 4:1 last year. If he just backs Wemby up he’ll be worth it, but if it turns out he & Wemby can play together effectively for short stints, it could be the most underrated move of the summer.

The video of. Him and Porzingis working together, imo, is a good preview of what’s to come if they run it.

[T Park]

Yeah Lopez fell off a cliff last year and the Hawks thought Capela wasn’t even playable.

So the comparisons between the two with Kornet makes no sense.

[Ice009]

Big time Signing! This is what I’ve been waiting for all offseason. Spurs needed a lunch pail guy! Rebounding will definitely be improved. Defense will be improved. Glue guy that will make the right plays on offense. Teams can’t bully the Spurs anymore. Period

Is Kornet much better than Raynaud would have been or the other rookie centers would have been when you compare what they would have cost to what he's getting paid?

[Mr. Body]

Is Kornet much better than Raynaud would have been or the other rookie centers would have been when you compare what they would have cost to what he's getting paid?

We have no idea if Raynaud can even play at this level

[OldMan88]

This should work.

[timtonymanu]

I don't think they will make him shoot 3's. He's gonna be more in the mold of Splitter and Poeltl. Anything is better than dogshit Zollins though.

[jesterbobman]

Is Kornet much better than Raynaud would have been or the other rookie centers would have been when you compare what they would have cost to what he's getting paid?

Some of the numbers paint Kornet as a top 75 ish player in the league (I'd say this is high). He's limited, not the most talented player, but does role player things at an elite level. In terms of impact / estimated catch all metrics (per minute), I'd guess that maybe 3 rookies will have more value next year than him.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Is Kornet much better than Raynaud would have been or the other rookie centers would have been when you compare what they would have cost to what he's getting paid?

Is this satire?

[slick'81]

Spurs aren't complete without a big white stiff in the middle

[Ice009]

Like Jesterbobman said, some of the numbers seem to paint Kornet quite highly, but I have a hard time believing them. Why didn't he play more minutes for Boston if he is as good as some of those metrics show?? He plays low minutes, never averaged more than 7ppg in his career etc. When I look at the raw stats, it's not very impressive.
If he is as good as some of those metrics show, why didn't he at least play more minutes. Also, he's had seasons where he hasn't played many games. Is that because he's been injured or just because he couldn't get on to the court ahead of others players?

[LeBowen]

He played 15 and 18mpg in the past two seasons, exactly the role we signed him up for.
I don't understand your complaints, someone who plays 15mpg on a championship roster with two other quality bigs ahead of him is definitely the best option in this poor market.
But people still get caught up in names and don't realize how washed the likes of Lopez, Capela and Looney are.

[jesterbobman]

Like Jesterbobman said, some of the numbers seem to paint Kornet quite highly, but I have a hard time believing them. Why didn't he play more minutes for Boston if he is as good as some of those metrics show?? He plays low minutes, never averaged more than 7ppg in his career etc. When I look at the raw stats, it's not very impressive.
If he is as good as some of those metrics show, why didn't he at least play more minutes. Also, he's had seasons where he hasn't played many games. Is that because he's been injured or just because he couldn't get on to the court ahead of others players?

I think he's been getting better - all the little micro skills in screen angles, positioning for rebounds / using length to protect the rim etc that come over time. He's not an awesome athlete, so he's had to work to get good enough at all that stuff to matter.
He's like the inverse DeAndre Ayton, where he's much more impactful than he is talented, because he plays within what he can and can't do. In previous years, Al Horford and Zingus were ahead, and they played Tatum at the 4 - hard to get major minutes as a third string centre and beat out 2 (former) all star -ish level players. Big of aging for Al, Zingus injured, him improving, and got a shot.

I'd guess that he'll be a roughly top 125 - 150 player, paid like 175th best player in the league (https://hoopshype.com/salaries/players/). I don't think there's a realistic path to much more than that (i.e, I don't think he's a hidden star who'll level up to Zubac impact), but replacing replacement level minutes with slightly above neutral is a big improvement.

[Limguogolo]

You wanted Maxime Raynaud, the great white man from Stanford and Wemby's chessmate; you will have Luke Kornet, the great white Jedi from Boston who can jump on threes and Wemby's future kung-fu partner.

I'm betting on an alliance of the two inside for a few minutes to play tall ball.

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/eDbpAEQS374?si=XP5wQHmmiTB6MV0Y

[Mal]

Good deal

[RC_Drunkford]

Other jersey numbers Kornet has worn as a pro:

#2 (with NYK and CHI) - that's not going to work
#40 (BOS) - currently taken by Barnes
#12 (CLE) - retired
#35 (MIL) - maybe this will be the one.

Would love to see this Korndog go with something funky that we haven't seen something before for the Spurs. Numbers never worn before in Silver & Black: 37 - 39, 46 - 49, 51, 56 - 76, 78 - 89, 91 - 99

instead of KD we got Luke Kronet wearing #35 :drunk

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lep77RRPeGI

[cutewizard]

If we somehow retain Barnes and move him to the bench, then the second unit of

Kornet
Sochan
Barnes
Champagne and
Harper,

is very, very competitive......

[RC_Drunkford]

people are totally underrating this signing tbh. Even the salary is absolutely on point.

https://i.ibb.co/N2jbXQvb/Kornettt.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/DPCmxNsh/Kornettt2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/Rkkks3fk/Kornet-3.jpg

[scottspurs]

Is Kornet much better than Raynaud would have been or the other rookie centers would have been when you compare what they would have cost to what he's getting paid?

Raynaud will have a learning curve coming into the NBA so Kornet is definitely better. The 2 hardest positions to adjust to when coming into the NBA is lead guard offensively and Center defensively. Raynaud has a high IQ but it still takes time to learn NBA coverages especially a complicated one like I expect the Spurs to run. Also Kornet is a grown man that very few players not named Jokic or Embiid can move off the block. Raynaud will get pushed around for 3-4 seasons at his current level of strength. Raynaud is more of a shooter but Kornet can do more of the dirty work. For what the Spurs need I would definitely take Kornet. That said it would have been nice to have a young prospect as a 3rd option.

With 1 two-way spot left I wouldn’t be surprised if the spurs use that last spot on a big.

[SpursBills]

Easier to see Kornet's impact the last few years when you measure him based on how he affects Dean Oliver's four factors as opposed to raw counting stats:

Shooting (40%)
Turnovers (25%)
Rebounding (20%)
Free throws (15%)

Compared to other centers, Kornet had a small bump in impacting team offensive FG% due to his high percentage but low volume, but then a massive impact on defensive team FG% due to his rim. Massive impact on rebounding. Above average impact by minimizing turnovers compared to other centers. When viewed through this lens, it's not hard to see why he has a high level impact compared especially relative to his counting stats. Similar to how Shane Battier was one of the most impactful wings of the past 25 years despite averaging 8 points / 4 rebounds over his entire career.

[thiste]

Raynaud will have a learning curve coming into the NBA so Kornet is definitely better. The 2 hardest positions to adjust to when coming into the NBA is lead guard offensively and Center defensively. Raynaud has a high IQ but it still takes time to learn NBA coverages especially a complicated one like I expect the Spurs to run. Also Kornet is a grown man that very few players not named Jokic or Embiid can move off the block. Raynaud will get pushed around for 3-4 seasons at his current level of strength. Raynaud is more of a shooter but Kornet can do more of the dirty work. For what the Spurs need I would definitely take Kornet. That said it would have been nice to have a young prospect as a 3rd option.

With 1 two-way spot left I wouldn’t be surprised if the spurs use that last spot on a big.
I've seen enough of our center getting pushed around with Collins for a lifetime.

[99 Problems]

:bobo Good days work guys…..

[Dejounte]

I've seen enough of our center getting pushed around with Collins for a lifetime.

No more fake tough guy act and a guy who cant keep his cool with refs

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Just need a stretch big and we are set

[dbestpro]

My hope is that he has a positive effect on Sochan for numerous reasons.

[dbestpro]

I don't think they will make him shoot 3's. He's gonna be more in the mold of Splitter and Poeltl. Anything is better than dogshit Zollins though.

He holds the NCAA record for three-pointers made by a 7-footer with 150.

[bigfan]

Ive been trolling the Boston boards, nothing but good stuff to read about Kornet. They were expecting someone to spend up to maybe $14/per on him. $10/per and a team option 4th sounds good to me. Not that it matters too much but I believe he is also a Texan. Welcome to SA Korndog!

[exstatic]

That defense and defensive rebounding won't be of much help when our entire bench unit is bricking 3 after 3. Also, I want to see how good Kronet defense is when the ones guarding on the perimeter aren't White, Holiday, Brown and Tatum but Keldon Johnson instead.

What I'm basically saying is that I need to see Keldon gone before I can be cool with this signing, tbh.

That FG% within 6 stat means that your perimeter guy has failed already, and the offensive player got past him.

[3&D_TBH]

Just heard a stat (not sure how important it really is) that the rate at which defenders die on defense when screened was the second highest in the league for Korn. Thats the type of fundamental shit we need with Wemby off the court. Maybe I’m old school and this stat means Jack shit, but my feeling is he does a lot of little things that are going to impact our floor. Great signing.

[vagisil]

Just heard a stat (not sure how important it really is) that the rate at which defenders die on defense when screened was the second highest in the league for Korn. Thats the type of fundamental shit we need with Wemby off the court. Maybe I’m old school and this stat means Jack shit, but my feeling is he does a lot of little things that are going to impact our floor. Great signing.

Watching his highlights, he does set good screens and rolls hard woth purpose. He doesnt nosedive to the paint. I've seen him read the defense and give good space to the ball handler.

[3&D_TBH]

Also, Harper has never played with someone who can screen for him like that. Second unit could be nasty tbh. Just need a shooter looming

[taps]

He is a seasoned vet at the peak of his powers on a team with none. I feel like there will be temptation to play him more than 15-20 minutes/game, but I confess to not understanding schemes/plays as well as some here. I wonder how his numbers will hold up playing more than 25 minutes/game

[vagisil]

He is a seasoned vet at the peak of his powers on a team with none. I feel like there will be temptation to play him more than 15-20 minutes/game, but I confess to not understanding schemes/plays as well as some here. I wonder how his numbers will hold up playing more than 25 minutes/game

Boston had a lot of good to great floor spacers. We have none, Vasell maybe, but thats about it. I doubt his numbers will blow up if his minutes does as well. But he doesn't have to. He's here for his defense and rebounding, scoring is just bonus.

[CorrectCrusader]

10m a year is virtually nothing in the modern era. This is a steal.

[Ariel]

He holds the NCAA record for three-pointers made by a 7-footer with 150.
Good offensive rebounder shooting 3s? hmmm... how about we surround him with better shooters instead?

3 team deal:
Spurs receive Hauser, send Wesley/Branham to third (and fourth?) team/s
Boston send Hauser (salary dump), maybe receive a SRP from the Spurs?
Third/Fourth team takes Wesley/Branham for 1-2 SRPs?

Spurs get their shooter, Boston gets salary relief (and maybe a SRP), third / fourth team gets a look at Wesley / Branham + maybe a SRP or two.

[TD 21]

He's basically a bigger, better rim protecting Poeltl for half the price.

Yeah, the fit isn't clean offensively because of the lack of surrounding shooting. But once they missed on Porzingis, they couldn't have realistically done better.

[DAF86]

That FG% within 6 stat means that your perimeter guy has failed already, and the offensive player got past him.

That's such a shortsighted view at things that I don't even know what to tell you. You just embarrassed yourself with that comment. It is not the same to get to the rim all gassed up and discumbulated after being harrassed by Derrick White, than getting to the rim with a full head of steam after being shown the red carpet by Keldon Johnson.

[BSfromTX]

What is the chance he plays alongside Wemby some?

[3&D_TBH]

Probably matchup dependent but most of the time he will just be a backup. 15-20 mpg

[CorrectCrusader]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF0P7idmvgg

[RC_Drunkford]

Just heard a stat (not sure how important it really is) that the rate at which defenders die on defense when screened was the second highest in the league for Korn. Thats the type of fundamental shit we need with Wemby off the court. Maybe I’m old school and this stat means Jack shit, but my feeling is he does a lot of little things that are going to impact our floor. Great signing.

yeah Kornet/Tatum was the best pick & roll combo in the league after Jokic/Murray

[Ice009]

Someone posted a video or Kornet shooting 3’s, I looked up his BBRef stats and back in 2017-2021this mfer was jacking 3’s at a reasonable clip.

70-193 for 36% from 3 in 2018-2019. Then it kind of went south the next year and he stopped shooting.

Didn't realize he can shoot so well. This changes my opinion a little bit. I wonder why he stopped shooting him. I'd like to get him to start shooting them again, but maybe he's stopped a bit so he can focus on offensive rebounds?


He holds the NCAA record for three-pointers made by a 7-footer with 150.

Luke Kornet holds the record? That's very interesting/exciting. I wonder if the Spurs can get him to start shooting them again? That would really help the offense IMO as that is one reason I wanted Brook Lopez over Capela and those guys that can't shoot the three, but as some posters have already mentioned, I may not have seen the drop off of guys like Lopez and Capela.

[T Park]

capela was unplayable and Lopez dropped off a cliff defensively.

[Ice009]

capela was unplayable and Lopez dropped off a cliff defensively.

Yeah, I didn't watch them enough the past year or so. All you guys that wanted Kornet over them, you all likely made the right call (obviously did as the Spurs thought so too).

[Knoxxx]

I’d still like to find a true PF as we go from Sochan/Barnes/Bryant as our bigs outside of Wemby/Kornet so we are lacking in players with real PF size and abilities such as rebounding and shot blocking. Bassey remains an option but more of a stopgap IMO. A Siakim type but more of a role player would be nice (like Fleming?)

[BatManu20]

I’d still like to find a true PF as we go from Sochan/Barnes/Bryant as our bigs outside of Wemby/Kornet so we are lacking in players with real PF size and abilities such as rebounding and shot blocking. Bassey remains an option but more of a stopgap IMO. A Siakim type but more of a role player would be nice (like Fleming?)

You and everyone else except for the Spurs apparently. I think they're satisfied going into the season with Barnes, Sochan, and Bryant as our 4's next season. Would love to be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're done with this offseason.

[z0sa]

Twin towers back in action. Love it.

[Ice009]

You and everyone else except for the Spurs apparently. I think they're satisfied going into the season with Barnes, Sochan, and Bryant as our 4's next season. Would love to be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they're done with this offseason.

I would never like saying this to you, but I hope you're wrong in this particular case.

[RC_Drunkford]

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[PhantomDashCam]

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Can't even think how long this must of taken to post on here. Greatly appreciated though.

[Maddog]

yeah Kornet/Tatum was the best pick & roll combo in the league after Jokic/Murray

I really want to see Wemby and Kornet do the pick and roll
Yeah I can think of reasons why this might not be a great idea, but really want to see it

[RC_Drunkford]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0SKsc-oA-o

[exstatic]

That's such a shortsighted view at things that I don't even know what to tell you. You just embarrassed yourself with that comment. It is not the same to get to the rim all gassed up and discumbulated after being harrassed by Derrick White, than getting to the rim with a full head of steam after being shown the red carpet by Keldon Johnson.

I can’t believe you think there is a difference in how a player gets to within 6 feet. Offensive players won’t fight, dribble,and back down their way from the 3 point line to within 6 feet of the hoop. It’s inefficient use of the clock. You either shoot the 3, beat your man off the dribble, or give up the ball. If they’re within 6 feet of the hoop, they won the battle.

[Splits]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCPyuY_f59U

[Ice009]

Would Luke be getting an introductory press conference or not really since he's a reserve? I'm guessing not.

[thOOdee]

any thoughts as to how this affects wemby's playing time at the four? Could we see kornet actually as a starter?

[Seventyniner]

any thoughts as to how this affects wemby's playing time at the four? Could we see kornet actually as a starter?

I doubt Wemby/Kornet sees more than a handful of minutes per game. Having Kornet is a luxury now because the Spurs rim protection should be strong the entire game. Kornet is also a good spot starter for games Wemby misses.

[DAF86]

I can’t believe you think there is a difference in how a player gets to within 6 feet. Offensive players won’t fight, dribble,and back down their way from the 3 point line to within 6 feet of the hoop. It’s inefficient use of the clock. You either shoot the 3, beat your man off the dribble, or give up the ball. If they’re within 6 feet of the hoop, they won the battle.

Do you even watch basketball bro? So you are telling me every time a player gets to the rim, they get under the same conditions no matter what? How is that something you actually said? :lol

[John B]

any thoughts as to how this affects wemby's playing time at the four? Could we see kornet actually as a starter?

It’s situational matchup with teams having two bigs like OKC or bigs like Jokic and Zubac. Man, I hated Zubac getting 20/20 on the Spurs.

I don’t know the status on Bassey?

[picnroll]

First couple of years in the league with NY Kornet averaged four 3s per game in limited minutes on a decent percentage of 35 - 36%. He went away from 3s but wonder if he can somewhat revive that for the Spurs.

[lefty]

Nice

A center who can also shoot 3s

[lefty]

And has championship experience (unlike CP0 :lol )

[lefty]

https://x.com/noadalzell/status/1940008102234849435

[CorrectCrusader]

https://i.imgur.com/KKrg6sE.png

[RC_Drunkford]

the thing is his metrics are that good because he stopped shooting 3s. He can shoot them, but I wouldn't incorporate that in the offense. He's much better playing close to the rim.

[Fizziksman]

the thing is his metrics are that good because he stopped shooting 3s. He can shoot them, but I wouldn't incorporate that in the offense. He's much better playing close to the rim.

Especially to clean up all of Keldon's bricks.

[mudyez]

I already love this goofball.

[ZeusWillJudge]

He's never played more than 18.6 mpg in his career. He's never pulled down more than 5.3 boards per game, at 7'2", and he doesn't space the floor. No team ever paid him more than $2.4M for a season, but the Spurs just committed $10M for at least three seasons. And he's already got a cool name - The Green Kornet. Except for the fact that green is the C's color. Behold, your new starting center!

This season should have been a building block. Instead, they've hitched their wagon to a turd. But, hey, the fourth year is a team option... right? I mean, it's only 3 years of Wemby's young career. What's the big deal?

[LeBowen]

Strange gimmick, tbh.

[Russ]

https://x.com/noadalzell/status/1940008102234849435

In other words, (s)he has a great personality.


He's never played more than 18.6 mpg in his career. He's never pulled down more than 5.3 boards per game, at 7'2", and he doesn't space the floor. No team ever paid him more than $2.4M for a season, but the Spurs just committed $10M for at least three seasons. And he's already got a cool name - The Green Kornet. Except for the fact that green is the C's color. Behold, your new starting center!

This season should have been a building block. Instead, they've hitched their wagon to a turd. But, hey, the fourth year is a team option... right? I mean, it's only 3 years of Wemby's young career. What's the big deal?

Come on man, this guy is the second coming of Kresimir Kosic!

And for only $10 mil a year for three years.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/MattLewisSports/status/1939830216907423843

[ace3g]

This is what sold the Spurs on Kornet.

https://x.com/taylorcsnow/status/1747781976940282051

[heyheymymy]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgX16ZLc1TTwr3S82ByADzfCVGTErSd q3IQA&s

[venitian navigator]

I Hope FO dont sleep on laurels, because thats the impression ive hot After the 14 pick (Fleming and Raynoud were easily gettable) and Just After the lk signing...we still lack some plausible big men...

[Russ]

This is what sold the Spurs on Kornet.

https://x.com/taylorcsnow/status/1747781976940282051

Quick tip -- completely illegal I fear.

[BacktoBasics]

He's never played more than 18.6 mpg in his career. He's never pulled down more than 5.3 boards per game, at 7'2", and he doesn't space the floor. No team ever paid him more than $2.4M for a season, but the Spurs just committed $10M for at least three seasons. And he's already got a cool name - The Green Kornet. Except for the fact that green is the C's color. Behold, your new starting center!

This season should have been a building block. Instead, they've hitched their wagon to a turd. But, hey, the fourth year is a team option... right? I mean, it's only 3 years of Wemby's young career. What's the big deal?

I don't think you should be looking at him and that contract in a vacuum that doesn't extend past our current roster.

If he works well with our team great but he's a rotation player in this league regardless. That contract, and him as a player, will pair well in any potential trade if that day comes down the road.

[scott]

For anyone complaining about the contract… the alternative was probably to simply not sign him.

San Antonio is a destination and a franchise that has to overpay to land free agents. For all the talk of Wemby being a FA magnet… we’re still a lottery team in a small market in third world Texas. What other teams can sign players for is not the same as what the Spurs can sign players for.

[MannyIsGod]

I mean its not just San Antonio, virtually EVERYONE has to overpay to sign free agents! You typically get discounts on resigning your own players but not from the outside. But even with that, 10 million per year isn't an overpay!!! You can say the years are, but with a final team option I don't even really subscribe to that. This is at fair market value for a center that is better than Capella, Lopez, or Ayton for what the Spurs need out of them. People just have an increasing inability to understand contracts in the NBA context (which is why people are always acting like Devin and Keldon's contracts somehow hurt the Spurs).

[Russ]

For anyone complaining about the contract… the alternative was probably to simply not sign him.

San Antonio is a destination and a franchise that has to overpay to land free agents. For all the talk of Wemby being a FA magnet… we’re still a lottery team in a small market in third world Texas. What other teams can sign players for is not the same as what the Spurs can sign players for.

Which is all the more reason to use your 2d round pick on Maxime Raynaud (caveat, you're really, really sure he can't play, otherwise . . .)

[baseline bum]

I mean its not just San Antonio, virtually EVERYONE has to overpay to sign free agents! You typically get discounts on resigning your own players but not from the outside. But even with that, 10 million per year isn't an overpay!!! You can say the years are, but with a final team option I don't even really subscribe to that. This is at fair market value for a center that is better than Capella, Lopez, or Ayton for what the Spurs need out of them. People just have an increasing inability to understand contracts in the NBA context (which is why people are always acting like Devin and Keldon's contracts somehow hurt the Spurs).

Keldon's doesn't hurt the Spurs since his deal expires before Wemby's likely 30% supermax takes effect but Devin's definitely does if Castle hits or exceeds his expected outcome, which would necessitate paying him probably 20% to 25% of the cap while still having Vassell taking up around 14% of the cap. You gotta be super careful with money when you're paying three max contracts and it could force them to have to make a decision on dumping one of Castle/Fox/Harper a year early.

[MannyIsGod]

Keldon's doesn't hurt the Spurs since his deal expires before Wemby's likely 30% supermax takes effect but Devin's definitely does if Castle hits or exceeds his expected outcome, which would necessitate paying him probably 20% to 25% of the cap while still having Vassell taking up around 14% of the cap. You gotta be super careful with money when you're paying three max contracts and it could force them to have to make a decision on dumping one of Castle/Fox/Harper a year early.

I'm not even convinced the Spurs would need anything more than a 2nd round pick attached to move Devin in that scenario so of course his contract doens't hurt them. if you have to come up with hypothetical situations like this to show how the Spurs are harmed by a contract then its a safe bet they are not actually harmed by said contract.

[OldMan88]

Which is all the more reason to use your 2d round pick on Maxime Raynaud (caveat, you're really, really sure he can't play, otherwise . . .)

Since he graduated from Stanford University (or was close to it) maybe that’s why he really wanted to play in California if that was possible.

[baseline bum]

Wonder if the Spurs are going to frontload Kornet's deal as much as possible. It would make all the sense in the world to do so since they're way under the luxury tax this year and likely next. Though they might prefer a standard contract with 5% raises if they're trying to use the rest of MLE on another player. I wonder if they have signed the contract yet. Probably makes sense to hold off for a little bit to see if they can make another deal like how they got HB and a pretty valuable swap free last summer.

[baseline bum]

I'm not even convinced the Spurs would need anything more than a 2nd round pick attached to move Devin in that scenario so of course his contract doens't hurt them. if you have to come up with hypothetical situations like this to show how the Spurs are harmed by a contract then its a safe bet they are not actually harmed by said contract.

You think anyone is going to be dying to throw a bunch of capspace at landing Vassell to bail the Spurs out if he has another disappointing season like last? Or do you not expect Castle's market value to be 20% of the cap or higher when he's up for his extension? You're going to be paying Victor a 30% supermax unless something goes drastically wrong. You're pretty likely going to be paying Fox a 30% max and with the Dotard Recession killing off the yearly 10% cap gains it isn't a declining contract any more.

[spurraider21]

Wonder if the Spurs are going to frontload Kornet's deal as much as possible. It would make all the sense in the world to do so since they're way under the luxury tax this year and likely next. Though they might prefer a standard contract with 5% raises if they're trying to use the rest of MLE on another player. I wonder if they have signed the contract yet. Probably makes sense to hold off for a little bit to see if they can make another deal like how they got HB and a pretty valuable swap free last summer.
they absolutely should. at this point the BAE exceeds whats left of the MLE even if they used the traditonal increasing structure with Kornet. and im not even sure there are any FAs left that justify getting into that territory anwyay. a decreasing structue would make the 4th year team option that much more juicy as well

[LeBowen]

Cap wise it would be better if Castle doesn't earn a max while still being a great player for us.
Hopefully we can sign for to a 3+1 deal because those 3 years would allign with Harper's extension.
Fox will be turning 32 at the start of that season and I'd expect Harper to be a better player by then.
Then we can either trade him for a couple of role players or he takes a paycut to be the 6th man.

We're kind of set as long as Wemby stays healthy and Harper is actually as good as advertised.
Castle as the third option that does everything and a bunch of 3-D wings, we don't need anything more than that.

CBA being difficult to navigate will only work in our favor because Wemby will be the best player in the league and very hard to beat without superteams.
We just need our scouting department to get their shit together and go back to finding great role players with late picks.

[MannyIsGod]

You think anyone is going to be dying to throw a bunch of capspace at landing Vassell to bail the Spurs out if he has another disappointing season like last? Or do you not expect Castle's market value to be 20% of the cap or higher when he's up for his extension? You're going to be paying Victor a 30% supermax unless something goes drastically wrong. You're pretty likely going to be paying Fox a 30% max and with the Dotard Recession killing off the yearly 10% cap gains it isn't a declining contract any more.

Getting off a 27 million expiring 3 years from now is not something I am even remotely worried about. I can't stress how much of a non problem this is.

[OldMan88]

Hopefully, Wemby will follow DRob’s & TD’s example of taking smaller contracts to allow the team to continue to sign good players to maximize competitiveness.

[Rosewood]

Hopefully, Wemby will follow DRob’s & TD’s example of taking smaller contracts to allow the team to continue to sign good players to maximize competitiveness.
I wouldn’t hold it against him if he doesn’t, he will be getting a ton of money from other ventures besides his NBA salary though so there is a chance.

That first extension will be massive though I think, regardless.

[baseline bum]

Hopefully, Wemby will follow DRob’s & TD’s example of taking smaller contracts to allow the team to continue to sign good players to maximize competitiveness.

I know it goes against the Spurs mythology but David did sign a contract that gave him the average of the top 2 player salaries in the league every year too

[Seventyniner]

Kornet's deal structure will likely be dictated by whether or not the Spurs can manage to have it as a S&T in a multi-team deal. That could preserve the full MLE.

Increasing is good if Kornet is signed with the MLE and because the last year is a team option. Decreasing is good since that 4th year will line up with the first year of Wemby's extension.

[spurraider21]

Kornet's deal structure will likely be dictated by whether or not the Spurs can manage to have it as a S&T in a multi-team deal. That could preserve the full MLE.

Increasing is good if Kornet is signed with the MLE and because the last year is a team option. Decreasing is good since that 4th year will line up with the first year of Wemby's extension.
whats even the use of retaining the MLE at this point?

[scott]

whats even the use of retaining the MLE at this point?

We could keep it open until the deadline (or until such time when a trade happens) and then acquire a player whose contract fits by just fully absorbing him into the MLE.

That would be the only benefit from my POV, because it’s not like there are any more FA’s out there we need to be racking our brains over

[Ice009]

We could keep it open until the deadline (or until such time when a trade happens) and then acquire a player whose contract fits by just fully absorbing him into the MLE.

That would be the only benefit from my POV, because it’s not like there are any more FA’s out there we need to be racking our brains over

Better to have it than not to have it IMO. It leaves some options even if they don't fully use it.

[spurraider21]

We could keep it open until the deadline (or until such time when a trade happens) and then acquire a player whose contract fits by just fully absorbing him into the MLE.

That would be the only benefit from my POV, because it’s not like there are any more FA’s out there we need to be racking our brains over
we have plenty of trade-sized contracts. anybody else we could get the MLE could be had just be sending branham/wesley

[Mr. Body]

We're at the point of the off-season where people are desperate to spend money on just anyone. Feels like this is every year.

[Ice009]

we have plenty of trade-sized contracts. anybody else we could get the MLE could be had just be sending branham/wesley

What happens if the other team doesn't want salary back, though? Like, to not pay luxury tax, is there a certain point of the season you have to have the salary down by, or does it have to be before the start of the season?

[spurraider21]

We're at the point of the off-season where people are desperate to spend money on just anyone. Feels like this is every year.
some people like seeing the club use the resources at its disposal to help the team on the margins

[spurraider21]

What happens if the other team doesn't want salary back, though? Like, to not pay luxury tax, is there a certain point of the season you have to have the salary down by, or does it have to be before the start of the season?
we unretire the cash considerations jersey and send it to them

[Mugen]

Gonna be super annoyed if we don't end up using Branham/Wesley's contracts prior to the deadline and they're still out of the rotation tbh.

[scott]

we have plenty of trade-sized contracts. anybody else we could get the MLE could be had just be sending branham/wesley

Other team may not want branham/wesley though. Having the MLE to take a player into saves the other team more money. For example if BOS needed to be clear of Hauser's deal, they could just send it into our MLE and save an additional $5MM versus taking Bran or Blake back

Edit: saw above that you mentioned sending cash considerations, but that doesn't help with the aprons or the tax for the other team. I'm not saying we actually will do this, but this is the answer to your question of what the point of turning Kornet into a S&T. This is the reason.

[poopbox]

Hopefully, Wemby will follow DRob’s & TD’s example of taking smaller contracts to allow the team to continue to sign good players to maximize competitiveness.
:lmao

[spurraider21]

garcia reporting the signing is official. while the team wont announce them, we should be getting contract details somewhat soon. hopefully its a declining deal given we have no other use for the MLE at this point

[spurraider21]

nice!

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[scott]

nice!

1942277254966280471

Really fantastic deal. All the head scratching over his headline number was for naught.

This also makes him quite the trade asset at the 2027 deadline if that were required for some reason (acquiring team would only have half a season and $2.5MM of potential dead money to worry about, which the Spurs could offset by including the cash).

[rjv]

it's amazing how things calm down in here once actual facts replace speculation.

[BatManu20]

Great front-loaded contract for the Spurs tbh. Only partially guaranteed money the 3rd year + a team option on the 4th year. If he starts sucking for us for whatever reason or becomes injury prone, we can just bail after his 2nd season. Good tuff.

[ace3g]

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Update: The San Antonio Spurs signed Luke Kornet to a four-year, $41 million deal, which descends, is fully guaranteed the first two years for $21.45 million, has a third-year $2.55 million partial guarantee salary and a fourth-year non-guaranteed salary, sources told Hoopshype
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[Ariel]

Yeah, I was highly skeptical of this deal how it was originally announced, but if these are the terms it's hard to knock on it. Great deal, great job by the FO.

[DPG21920]

Love it. Makes so much more sense now.

[SpursFan86]

Wow, good shit. I was on board with the contract even if it were a straight contract with relatively equal amounts for all 4 years...but knowing the full details it now goes from a solid contract to a great one IMO.

[ace3g]

He will wear #7.
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