Artest rips Magic for alleged adultery

[alamo50]

Pacers star compares himself wanting a trade to infidelity

NBCSports.com news services
Updated: 10:45 a.m. ET Dec. 21, 2005


Indiana Pacers forward Ron Artest compared himself wanting a trade to Magic Johnson allegedly cheating on his wife, WRTV in Indianapolis reported.

Artest made the comparison after he found out that Johnson said he didn't deserve a second chance to play in the NBA.

"It's like saying, 'Magic, should your wife give you another chance?'" Artest told WIBC radio on Friday. "He's saying Ron Artest should have no more second chances. What's worse — me saying I want to be traded or you cheating on your wife?"

Recently, Artest has backtracked on his stance of wanting to be traded, saying that he now wants to stay with the Pacers.

“At this moment, we’re not going to put the buggy before the horse,” Artest's agent Mark Stevens said. “We’re waiting to hear from (Pacers president) Donnie Walsh, the gentleman and scholar that he is, and hope this can be resolved to where there won’t have to be a trade.”

The NBA fined Artest $10,000 Thursday for making public statements detrimental to the NBA.

Artest was a key component on a team expected to challenge for the Eastern Conference crown. He leads the league in steals and is the Pacers’ second-leading scorer at 19.4 points a game.

He said he was unhappy playing in Carlisle’s system. Carlisle said any decision regarding Artest’s return would be left up to Walsh and Larry Bird.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10548961/)

:lol

[TwoHandJam]

He may be certifiably insane but he sure is entertaining. :lol

[leemajors]

props for what? responding to magic's comments like a little child? magic's adultery is his business and his wife's only. truth hurts.

[Oh, Gee!!]

artest needs to stop doing interviews

[CosmicCowboy]

Damn. Magic just got OWNED...

[T Park]

Damn.

Artest is nuts, but he owned the hell out of Magic lmao.

[Horry For 3!]

:lmao funny shit

[E20]

Artest is hella cool. :lmao
Love the third person.

[adidas11]

That was pretty damn funny.

Artest is insane.

[kris]

Good comeback.

[Mr. Defense]

Ron Artest is my HERO. :tu

[DarkReign]

Ron Artest is a fucking idiot. There have been some real morons to enter the NBA out of *cough*college*cough*, but this HS drop out loser takes the cake.

I have never wished injury on ANY player except Ville Niemenen (if you dont watch hockey, dont bother).

Artest has made my list. I hope someone under-cuts him and his career ends so he can pursue his dreams of rap stardom.

:flipoff

[50 cent]

That is freakin' awesome.

Magic just got PWN3D.

[ca®lo]

ok thats it.

ARTEST to the spurs!

DO IT!

he he he.. no way

[Spurminator]

Alleged?

[midgetonadonkey]

That's hilarious. Too bad he didn't make an HIV crack.

If Magic talks shit back, I'm sure an HIV remark is in the works.

[jochhejaam]

I guess if you make a comment about someone you shouldn't be surprised when they fight back. It was a fair reply but I don't think Ron came up with it on his own, his agent probably told him to say it.

[missmyzte]

Old news, he said like a week ago. It's pathetic that Artest feels the need to make a comment about something in the personal life of a LEGEND, something that happened many years ago. Shows how little respect he has for the game (by showing disrespect to a legend) and that Magic is correct in what he said, since Artest obviously had nothing basketball-based to use as a rebuttal.

[T Park]

^^^

So Magic is not in the wrong??

Suprise suprise a Laker fan finds a former laker infalliable.


Sorry Myzte, but your way off.

[JMarkJohns]

Alleged?

That's the best point that's been made. Where the hell did this "alleged" crap come from?!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It's pathetic that Artest feels the need to make a comment about something in the personal life of a LEGEND, something that happened many years ago.

So what? Where the hell does Magic get off going ivory fucking towers on anyone's 'issues'?

Showtime needs to look in the fucking mirror.

That might be the greatest thing Artest has ever said in his life, or will ever say.

[JMarkJohns]

...and that Magic is correct in what he said, since Artest obviously had nothing basketball-based to use as a rebuttal.

Magic's sexual escapades may have cost the Lakers a few more Finals/Titles.

Because of his being HIV positive, he had to retire far before he was done. He still had 4/5 year's left. That may have been another Title or two.

Magic's irresponsiblity cost his team. His irresponsibility stemmed from his cheating on his wife. Perhaps Artest didn't intend this, but you helped connect the dots.

Magic is far from innocent and FAAAARRRR from a victom.

If you don't want your own character and intregrity question and/or attacked, then don't publicly rip another for theirs.

[Despot]

If Magic wanted to keep his personal life personal, he should have faded off into the shadows a long time ago. It's the nature of celebrity, your past WILL haunt you. Funny how Magic thinks artest does not deserve another chance, but aren't his Lakers climaxing like Kobe at a Denver resort at the thought of getting Artest on their roster???

[sprrs]

^^^

So Magic is not in the wrong??

Suprise suprise a Laker fan finds a former laker infalliable.


Sorry Myzte, but your way off.


Well I, a Spurs fan, agree with her.

Basketball should be separate from personal life, and Artest refuses to think so.

The response was a personal attack towards Magic, and what Magic said about Artest doesn't come anywhere close to justifying it

[Despot]

Well I, a Spurs fan, agree with her.

Basketball should be separate from personal life, and Artest refuses to think so.

The response was a personal attack towards Magic, and what Magic said about Artest doesn't come anywhere close to justifying it

So, should players get fined and suspended for getting caught with drugs? beating their wife? Trying to sneak a gun on a plane? The league uses players personal lives against them. You have to remember, Magic is not just a member of the media spewing out crap from time to time, most players shake that off. This is a former player, A LEGEND, turning his back on another NBA fraternity member.

I can not think of any instances off hand, but it seems to me that Magic will at times knock other players a bit harshly. At least when Barkley throws it in, he'll praise the players overall talent and throw in a joke when he bashes them.

Off the subject, but I'm still waiting for Stern to get caught smoking his crack pipe under his car seat.

[Guru of Nothing]

At least he did not accuse Magic of doing anything on the down-low.

[sprrs]

So, should players get fined and suspended for getting caught with drugs? beating their wife? Trying to sneak a gun on a plane?

When did I imply that?

[Despot]

When did I imply that?

I apologize, did not try to make it seem like you were implying that, just
Pointing out the reality that personal lives and basketball lives are connected. We shouldn't pick and choose when and against who we apply those rules to.

[JMarkJohns]

When did I imply that?

When you said the personal needs to be kept from the professional.
"Basketball should be separate from personal life"

I think it was a low blow. But mouths like Barkley and Magic believe they have a free pass because they are legands and members of the media. It's that whole pot/kettle/black argument. They may not be identical, but the intent behind each situation is similer.

[Mr. Defense]

people need to realize artest don't give a fuck. much like myself. when we are attacked? we can bite back. and hard. so it's at other's risk. be critical and be prepared. :tu

[Guru of Nothing]

When did I imply that?

You are missing the point.

Think "detriment to the team" AND hypocrisy. Maybe basketball and personal life are not so separate afterall.


10 ... 9 .... 8 .... 7 ... 6 ... .....

[sprrs]

It's probably just my anti-Artest bias, but I still think there's some lines you just don't cross.

But I suppose you're right, can't do anything about it there'll always be idiots in the NBA

[Despot]

Has Marv Albert ever called Kobe a sexual deviant on national tv??? I'm pretty sure Kobe would have a decent comeback.

[leemajors]

magic adultery did not make him a bad teammate. almost everything artest has ever gone public saying has. artest has no base to make this kind of comparison. he is a stupid child, and struck out in a petty way. magic was a team leader before and after he commited adultery. the lack of public education about how aids is contracted and spread is what caused a panic about his condition. anyone who says magic saying this makes him a hypocrite has the sloping skull of a neanderthal and the intellect of a troglodyte.

[Mr. Defense]

magic adultery did not make him a bad teammate. almost everything artest has ever gone public saying has. artest has no base to make this kind of comparison. he is a stupid child, and struck out in a petty way. magic was a team leader before and after he commited adultery. the lack of public education about how aids is contracted and spread is what caused a panic about his condition. anyone who says magic saying this makes him a hypocrite has the sloping skull of a neanderthal and the intellect of a troglodyte.


magic drew 1st blood. all is fair in love and war. :tu

artest would be an awesome Spur. so many in here would be online ordering an Artest jersey in silver and black, it would make your head spin. bandwagon is as bandwagon does. believe that. :tu

[leemajors]

war? maybe you need to pull out a dictionary. artest will never be a spur because who he is makes him ineligible to be a spur.

[Mr. Defense]

war? maybe you need to pull out a dictionary. artest will never be a spur because who he is makes him ineligible to be a spur.


Main Entry: 1war
Pronunciation: 'wor
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English werre, from Old North French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German werra strife; akin to Old High German werran to confuse
1 a (1) : a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations (2) : a period of such armed conflict (3) : STATE OF WAR b : the art or science of warfare c (1) obsolete : weapons and equipment for war (2) archaic : soldiers armed and equipped for war
2 a : a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism b : a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end <a class war> <a war against disease> c : VARIANCE, ODDS 3
- war·less /-l&s/ adjective


any other requests mr. majors? :tu

[Josh810]

That's hilarious. Too bad he didn't make an HIV crack.
Too bad? Are you serious?

[leemajors]

nice, so you have found out a blatant misuse of the 2nd variant definition of a word. i suppose you found alanis morisette's song to be the height of irony as well.

[Mr. Defense]

nice, so you have found out a blatant misuse of the 2nd variant definition of a word.

whatever dude. Artest is the man. hate as you will. no sweat off my balls. :tu

[Despot]

No, he just did what you asked him to

[Despot]

Ok, we know about the camera incident in MSG, and the battle in the palace, request for time off, and the trade request, and we know Artest is a nut, ok headcase, ok mental. But alot of athletes, let alone millionaires are also pretty screwed up.

But I am curious, what other interior problems has he caused the Pacers? Missing team flights? late for practice? fighting? punching teammates? drugs? murder?
I'm not condoning artest as a spur, but I would like to compare it to other players and their disgressions.

[leemajors]

enough to get keyshawned until he is traded. good enough?

[Despot]

^^^ Not really, the first news I had heard about him this year in particular was the trade request, and he gets benched for it. Must have been something that led to this, wondering if I missed it.

[leemajors]

cumulative effect. they stood behind him last season, this one he asks to be traded. in doing so he publically rips the coach. on pti there was something new and stupid he did every week since the season began.

[Leetonidas]

If Magic wanna talk sheyit, Magic gon' get sheyit.

[Mr. Defense]

If Magic wanna talk sheyit, Magic gon' get sheyit.


:tu :lmao

[Kori Ellis]

But I am curious, what other interior problems has he caused the Pacers? Missing team flights? late for practice? fighting? punching teammates? drugs? murder?
I'm not condoning artest as a spur, but I would like to compare it to other players and their disgressions.

Not just for the Pacers, but in his NBA career, he's missed/been late for practices, he has fought with teammates, he destroyed the weight room in Chicago, threw balls at the heads of his teammates in the lockerroom, and a multitude of other things.

But he hasn't killed anyone that we know of :tu

[Mr. Defense]

would you guys take Kobe right now if the Spurs could get him for TP and Rasho with throwins?

just curious.

cuz i wonder how many would overlook an 'alleged' rape due to the glow of a 60 point game.

[mikejones99]

Who cares about Goldigger kate Faber, that KOBE did not rape? Any team in the NBA would take KOBE if the price is right. Maybe those two but definitly no throw ins.

[Mr. Defense]

haha. and if someone in LA spit or threw something on lets say...tony and he got pissed and went after that person....would you guys be on Tony's ass as well?

or would you all of a suddern 'understand' his point of view...:lol

Pop would tame the beast that is Ron Artest.

But as for the thread, yeah, Magic said shit, he got some flung back. I'm sure he can take it. You have to in this business.

[MI21]

I've been waiting for the right time to post this...

http://www.boomspeed.com/wildcats2003/magichitit.jpg

[slayermin]

Someone told me that Isiah Thomas and Magic had their own version of "Brokeback Mountain" if you know what I mean. I wonder if it's true.

http://www.keithboykin.com/arch/upload/magicthomas.gif

[mikejones99]

The worst thing Artest did was ask to be traded. Many players switch teams and they end up happier. So he broke a tv in NY and threw basketballs at people and make bad music, most of us have done worse. It all depends on price to where he goes. If spurs could trade one bench player they will get him but Indina is not that desparate.

[Spurzilla]

Once again Artest proves his brain is disconnected from the reality of life. The only person who got "owned" by his comments is Artest. Here he is, out of a job because of how he has treated the whole Pacers organization... and he burns yet another bridge by taking a hit at Magic's personal life.

Artest just doesn't get it. Magic's "alleged" personal indescretions did have consequences that affected his professional career -- it was cut short. The same thing can happen to Artest.

Artest is making it very hard for the Pacers organization to find him a new team. Soon someone will try to explain all this to him.... wonder how long it will take before he apologizes to Magic for what he said?

[exstatic]

Magic got OWN3D. Now had Artest used a bit of restraint and said something along the lines of "Magic, of all people, should appreciate compassion from the league and the public, and second chances", Magic would have been PWN3D.

[exstatic]

Why does Magic get a free pass on this? Because he's Magic? Artest was suspended without pay for the balance of the season. How can that not be enough? If you're going to come down harsh on someone's livelyhood, they're GOING to come back at you. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, and Tragic just got his windows busted out, that's all.

BTW, if you haven't followed any of the Artest threads, I have no interest in having him in Silver and Black, and am the last person that you could call an Artest apologist. I just think if you get trashed in the press by a hypocrite, you have the right and probably the responsibility to point it out.

[DarkReign]

Why does Magic get a free pass on this? Because he's Magic?

Yes. Thats exactly it.

Most players in any league except the NBA respect the players/people who came before them. Even if those people get critical.

Nonetheless a living legend like Magic.

I am not all that concerned with this charade that is Artest, I just detest him. Whatever Magic said was probably true and Ron-Ron the gfunk personality from da hood didnt like.

Tough shit. He can smack talk all he wants, Magic has more camera time to vilify this idiot and more credibility to do so.

Magic is a hall of famer.
Magic is one of the best players to ever play in the NBA (or the sport of basketball).
Magic won 3 (4?) Championships.
Magic won how many MVPs?
Magic, after retiring, has enough business savvy and intelligence to enter into an ownership role with one the most successful franchises in the NBA.

Artest is a 2-time DPoTY.

See a difference here?

[leemajors]

i don't see why it's "why does magic get a free pass?" he was merely expressing a sentiment 99% of the reporters out there have been saying ever since artest made his comments to the media. many players, like gilbert arenas, have said they would never want artest on their team because of how he acts. it's not going as far as magic is, but they are basically saying the same thing. artest needs to realize he is the one who created this whole situation and deal with the consequences.

[ambchang]

I just don't even see a comparison here. Magic and his wife's business is between the two of them, if Cookie can forgive Magic, that's her choice. Now, the Pacers organization has to be responsible to the fans, other players, and all the stakeholders, it's a totally different situation.
But if you MUST compare, it's not like Magic going around cheating on his wife, it's like Magic ruined the chance for Cookie to have the biggest personal achievement of her life (last year's brawl), have Cookie forgive him, and go out and ask for a divorce in public before consulting with his wife.
BTW, Magic won 5 championships.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

This is just getting sad. Magic certainly isn't the only one saying this, but Artest decided to take a swipe at him because of what he perceived as a chink in Magic's armor that most of his accusers don't have. Instead he looks like a six year old, taking a swipe at one of the most respected figures in basketball history.

In my opinion the big difference between the two isn't that Magic is a legend, but that Magic has owned up to the mistakes he's made in his life and has done his best to make ammends. Aside from some half hearted apologies that he was forced to make after the Detroit brawl, I don't know that I've ever seen Artest say that he was wrong or sorry about any of the things he's done.

[DarkReign]

BTW, Magic won 5 championships.

I stand corrected. I couldnt remember.

5 'ships...whoa

[Peter]

Artest is probably the only guy alive who could get away with saying that.

[E20]

Magic is too smart to comeback at Artest, he knows he is crazy.

[boutons]

"Magic is to smart"

but he's dumb enough to have said something in the first place.

[E20]

"Magic is to smart"

but he's dumb enough to have said something in the first place.
What did he say? That a crazed lunatic doesn't deserve a second chance in the NBA?

[leemajors]

there's nothing dumb about what magic said. artest is the one acting dumb - magic has already been tried in the court of public opinion, apologized for his indescretions to the public and to his wife. i don't think artest is sorry about much he has ever done.

[boutons]

"there's nothing dumb about what magic said"

He didn't say anything new that nobody around the league hasn't already arrived at, but what's dumb is to stick his nose in it at all.

[E20]

"there's nothing dumb about what magic said"

He didn't say anything new that nobody around the league hasn't already arrived at, but what's dumb is to stick his nose in it at all.
That's true knowing Artest he's probably ripped everybody who has criticized him and knowing Magic, he should have known to ignore Ron.

[Mr. Defense]

Artest is probably the only guy alive who could get away with saying that.



there is another sky-walk-----er. :lol