Britney Spears driving with her baby on her lap

[Kori Ellis]

(I know this is already in the troll forum)

Was she wrong or right?

I think she still should have put the baby in the car seat, no matter what the circumstances were.

On Monday, photos surfaced of Britney Spears driving her SUV in Malibu with her son, Sean Preston, sitting on her lap behind the wheel. The pictures raised obvious questions because her young son was not in a car seat.

A source close to Spears explains that the singer drove to Starbucks with her bodyguard in the passenger seat and son Sean in his car seat in the back. When the bodyguard went into the store to get the drinks, Spears took Sean out of his car seat and held him in her lap while she waited. Photographers approached the car, says the source, and became aggressive. Once her bodyguard climbed back into the car, Spears drove away while still holding her son.

Spears explains her actions in an exclusive statement to People magazine:

"Today I had a horrifying, frightful encounter with the paparazzi while I was with my baby. Because of a recent incident when I was trapped in my car without my baby by a throng of paparazzi, I was terrified that this time the physically aggressive paparazzi would put both me and my baby in danger. I instinctively took measures to get my baby and me out of harm's way, but the paparazzi continued to stalk us, and took photos of us which were sold to the media. I love my child and would do anything to protect him."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/gkkelly/britney_driving_with_sean1_thumb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/gkkelly/britney_driving_with_sean2_thumb.jpg

[Kori Ellis]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/gkkelly/britney_driving_with_sean4_thumb.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/gkkelly/britney_driving_with_sean5_thumb.jpg

[midgetonadonkey]

It's clear as day now, she is white trash.

[angel_luv]

The baby faced more danger riding in the car that way than he did the paparazi.

[sa_butta]

I understand where she was coming from trying to protect her child but, the safest place for a child in a moving vehicle is in his/her carseat. Had the paparazzi caused her to wreck her child could have been crushed. She could have put the child in the car seat while staying in the SUV, locking the doors and safely driving away.

[Kori Ellis]

White trash or whatever, she's stupid as hell. What do you think was more dangerous .. The baby getting his picture taken by paparazzi? Or they baby being injured (or worse) if she got in an accident?

[Shelly]

She's been photographed close up carrying little Cheeto already several times, so I'm not buying the afraid shit.

There is never an excuse for driving with your child in your lap. It doesn't take a lot for the air bag to go off and she's very lucky it didn't.

Which is why sometimes I think one should have a license to be a parent.

[Kori Ellis]

I understand where she was coming from trying to protect her child but, the safest place for a child in a moving vehicle is in his/her carseat. Had the paparazzi caused her to wreck her child could have been crushed.


She was parked in a parking lot when the paparazzi attacked her. What about just locking your door and hopping in your back seat and strapping the baby in? She drove for over 2 miles with the baby on her lap, she clearly isn't in danger in the pics -- her window is even rolled down.

[sa_butta]

That is no better than Michael Jackass dangling the baby over the balcony of a hotel.

[Shelly]

Plus, she could have handed the baby to the bodyguard and he could have put him in the car seat.

She looks so terrified in those pictures.

[fraga]

That b!tch is dumb....if she had got into an accident...and the airbag went off...that kid would be toast...she should be ticketed at the least...

[sa_butta]

She was parked in a parking lot when the paparazzi attacked her. What about just locking your door and hopping in your back seat and strapping the baby in? She drove for over 2 miles with the baby on her lap, she clearly isn't in danger in the pics -- her window is even rolled down.Right I added that to my previous post, she did not even need to get out.

[angel_luv]

Once her bodyguard climbed back into the car, Spears drove away while still holding her son.


Her body guard was in the car so why was Brit holding the baby and driving?

[angel_luv]

haha Great minds Shelly

[timvp]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/gkkelly/britney_driving_with_sean2_thumb.jpg

Let go of me you dumb beech.

[Summers]

Although I can't identify with trying to flee the papparazzi, I don't think there's ever a good excuse for not putting a baby in a car seat. It's dangerous and irresponsible. HEB is 4 blocks from my house and I can't imagine even driving there without buckling my little one into his seat. It makes me really angry to see little kids not strapped down in cars.

[Shelly]

haha Great minds Shelly

:)

Yet, I am facinated by Britney and Kevin. :lol I never paid any attention to her until she hooked up with him and starting using public bathrooms without any shoes on.

[Shelly]

Although I can't identify with trying to flee the papparazzi, I don't think there's ever a good excuse for not putting a baby in a car seat. It's dangerous and irresponsible. HEB is 4 blocks from my house and I can't imagine even driving there without buckling my little one into his seat. It makes me really angry to see little kids not strapped down in cars.


Not only that, but CA (as do most states) has very strict laws about car seats. And she doesn't have her seat belt on, so she could have gone flying too if she got in an accident.

[HB22inSA]

Sometimes people need to learn the hard way. Maybe the death of her baby will wake her up.

It's a shame that it takes extreme things like that to wake people's asses up.

[pache100]

It's clear as day now, she is white trash.

I thought that was a foregone conclusion.

Anyway, the "danger" from the paparazzi could not have been any worse for her or her child (or her bodyguard, for that matter) than driving a careening SUV down the street WITH ONE HAND with her baby not in a child safety seat. What if someone had pulled out in front of her while she was taking this evasive action? Her baby could have been laying out on the hood of that SUV.

Stupid woman.

[sa_butta]

Sometimes people need to learn the hard way. Maybe the death of her baby will wake her up.

It's a shame that it takes extreme things like that to wake people's asses up.Maybe she needs to wake up before that, the baby does not deserve to die because of moms stupidity. I dont care who she is if she fucks up enough the baby will get taken away from her.

[ChumpDumper]

She was just pissed someone was getting pics of the kid without paying.

[Shelly]

Exclusive: Child Services and Britney
Agency makes call after seatbelt brouhaha

By TMZ.COM STAFF

(Feb. 7) -- TMZ has learned the LA County Department of Chidren and Family Services (DCFS) has contacted the LA County Sheriff's Department, inquiring about Britney driving with her baby on her lap without proper child restraint.

X17 Agency

TMZ contacted DCFS and an official would not say if the matter was under investigation.

Britney issued a statement saying, "I was terrified that this time the physically aggressive paparazzi would put both me and my baby in danger." She added, "I instinctively took measures to get my baby and me out of harm's way..."

The TV show 'EXTRA' has obtained the following statement from X17, the company that took the picture: "These pictures were taken in a very peaceful context, in which photographers exhibited no aggressive behavior. We believe the pictures speak for themselves."

[Trainwreck2100]

With those genes, that baby is condemed to stupidity.

[ObiwanGinobili]

She was parked in a parking lot when the paparazzi attacked her. What about just locking your door and hopping in your back seat and strapping the baby in? She drove for over 2 miles with the baby on her lap, she clearly isn't in danger in the pics -- her window is even rolled down.

Amen.
her behavior is inexcusable IMO.

Also- in the 3rd pic you posted. She is clearly smiling/grinning; doesn't seem "frightened" to me. Even if she was in so much so called "danger" she should have done as Kori said (hop in the back and strap baby in).
Especialy considering that there have been car wrecks resulting from papparazzi chasing celebrities - you'd think she would take that extra moment to ensure the safety of her son.
Does she even realize what could've happened if she was even in a fender bender?? It doesn;t take that much force/collision to seriously injury a 4month old sitting on your lap infront of a steering wheel.

what a dumbass.

[pache100]

Especialy considering that there have been car wrecks resulting from papparazzi chasing celebrities - what a dumbass.

Exactly. Princess Diana was the first thing I thought of when I heard this story. They thought it wouldn't happen to them, too.

[Shelly]

HMMMM...

Feb. 7) -- TMZ has learned that Deputy Mark Winn, from the LA County Sheriff's Dept., is on his way back (1:30 PM Pacific Time) from Britney Spears' home. We're told the deputy went to the singer's home to ask questions about Britney driving with her baby on her lap without proper child restraint.

[leemajors]

that is very illegal. kids belong in their car seats, properly secured, for a reason. i'm glad CPS is on it

[Sec24Row7]

You've got to be kidding me.

Who gives a shit honestly?

[Buddy Holly]

"Today I had a horrifying, frightful encounter with the paparazzi while I was with my baby. Because of a recent incident when I was trapped in my car without my baby by a throng of paparazzi, I was terrified that this time the physically aggressive paparazzi would put both me and my baby in danger. I instinctively took measures to get my baby and me out of harm's way, but the paparazzi continued to stalk us, and took photos of us which were sold to the media. I love my child and would do anything to protect him."

Do you actually believe she said or wrote that? :lol :lol

[Buddy Holly]

You've got to be kidding me.

Who gives a shit honestly?

This is about more than her bring a celebrity. If I saw some Joe/Jane Schmoe driving with a baby in their lap you better believe I'd call the cops or stop them myself.

[leemajors]

i agree. i also can't stand people who leave their dogs in cars while they watch a movie or shop. i call the cops on that too, it's just cruel

[Buddy Holly]

Britney Spears is fucking God. I love her. It is her kid...let her do as she wants.

Ya all are jealous haters...

So Brintey is the new Cher/Bette Milder for you guys, huh?

[George W Bush]

^^^ you don't look like Buddy Holly.

[Buddy Holly]

GiG... you're super gay.

[Vashner]

I think she was in the wrong. Even if you have a big SUV another car can hit you or other wierder things have happend. Blowout and rollover, animal and game on road.
California.. hell could be a 8.0 any second...

Edit: Thinking about it. Let me tell you a little story.

A friends relative was in an accident here in San Antonio. He drove from his apartment to corner store to get beer and got T boned. Paralyzed from the neck down. No seatbelt got him thrown out. The store was maybe 300 feet from his apartment.

So even if you THINK you don't need a kid seat or belt wierd shit can happen.

[ObiwanGinobili]

So Brintey is the new Cher/Bette Milder for you guys, huh?

I hope by "you guys" you specificly meant GiG.

[Buddy Holly]

I hope by "you guys" you specificly meant GiG.
GiG and the rest of the "Boat Trip" gang.

[CharlieMac]

You people are way too harsh. I'd hate to be a celebrity. Growing up, it was almost normal for kids not to be in a car seat.

[Buddy Holly]

You people are way too harsh. I'd hate to be a celebrity.

What kind of celebrity? A sports celebrity? I'd have no problem there. Making three times what a doctor makes and being on the IR all year long.

A movie star? Well, depends, a celeb making 10 million a movie or 2 million a movie?

Fuck it, either will do.

A music celebrity? Well, that's a sticking point. 20 cents on the dollar for every album sold or 40 cents on the dollar. Fuck it, with royalties and TV deals and eventual movie deals... you making a good 10 million a year.

Yeah, I too would hate being a celebrity.

Sign me up as a underpaid, under appreciated teacher. How about a underpaid, overworked construction worker.

[easjer]

That is so freaking ridiculous. We were talking about this on another board.

The window is down, she's smiling and laughing. Apart from the obvious strap the child in after you are already in the car - why didn't she hand the child to her bodyguard if she was so frightened? Not that that is much better, but driving with two hands is more likely to keep the child safe than driving one handed with a squirmy four month old on your lap that you have to restrain with your other hand.

It's stupid and thoughtless. But I guess her bodyguard was too busy protecting the Starbucks he bought for him to take care of the child.

[CharlieMac]

What kind of celebrity? A sports celebrity? I'd have no problem there. Making three times what a doctor makes and being on the IR all year long.

A movie star? Well, depends, a celeb making 10 million a movie or 2 million a movie?

Fuck it, either will do.

A music celebrity? Well, that's a sticking point. 20 cents on the dollar for every album sold or 40 cents on the dollar. Fuck it, with royalties and TV deals and eventual movie deals... you making a good 10 million a year.

Yeah, I too would hate being a celebrity.

Sign me up as a underpaid, under appreciated teacher. How about a underpaid, overworked construction worker.

I served Lenny Kravitz not too long ago on teh Riverwalk. I thought that it might get you aroused knowing he was here.

I'm actually going to be one of those underpaid teachers. I can dig that over millions of people watching my every move.

[Buddy Holly]

I served Lenny Kravitz not too long ago on teh Riverwalk. I thought that it might get you aroused knowing he was here.

I don't plant wood for nothing less than freeways and downtown pictures.

[easjer]

But eriks, we also didn't have airbags growing up, and it wasn't typical, growing up, for the kid to be in the driver's lap.

If she'd hit anything, even a fender in front of her at 10 mph, that airbag could have killed her child, and if not would have burned him seriously. And if she had been followed and she decided to take evasive action, her son could have gotten a bad head contusion from hitting his head on the steering wheel.

I'd be less 'outraged' over the whole incident if the kid had been held in a seat other than the driver's seat. That is just stupid and irresponsible and makes for a much worse scenario than some paparrazi taking a few pics.

[CharlieMac]

But eriks, we also didn't have airbags growing up, and it wasn't typical, growing up, for the kid to be in the driver's lap.

If she'd hit anything, even a fender in front of her at 10 mph, that airbag could have killed her child, and if not would have burned him seriously. And if she had been followed and she decided to take evasive action, her son could have gotten a bad head contusion from hitting his head on the steering wheel.

I'd be less 'outraged' over the whole incident if the kid had been held in a seat other than the driver's seat. That is just stupid and irresponsible and makes for a much worse scenario than some paparrazi taking a few pics.

Yeah, that'[s true. Those airbags come out at 200 mph and pack a hell of a punch. I was in an accident and the accident itself didn't hurt me, but that airbag did some damage to my hand. To make thinsg worse, it was my remote control hand.

[Buddy Holly]

That air bag would have killed the baby instantly.

[2Blonde]

Common sense dictates that she screwed up and picked the wrong option. That being said, we weren't in her position or in her head at that exact moment. Nobody here has experienced the same paparazzi (sp?) stalking in the past that she has. The fear of what they could have done based on their past behavior toward her and others she has known may have had an effect on her quick decision to remove herself, her baby and the bodyguard from the situation first and then secure the baby a little later. I would imagine if she had thought it through she would realize it wasn't the smart thing to do for many of the reasons you guys have mentioned.

[SpursWoman]

I can't wait until Lindsay Lohan has a baby. :spin

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, that'[s true. Those airbags come out at 200 mph and pack a hell of a punch. I was in an accident and the accident itself didn't hurt me, but that airbag did some damage to my hand. To make thinsg worse, it was my remote control hand.

I'm surprised you are so obnoxiously flippant.

When I was growing up, there were no car seats but no one drove with infants on their laps. It's extremely dangerous.

And by the way, kids have died from airbags at an impact at 40mph.

Good luck to your future children. I hope your wife is smarter than you. :tu

[CharlieMac]

I'm surprised you are so obnoxiously flippant.

When I was growing up, there were no car seats but no one drove with infants on their laps. It's extremely dangerous.

And by the way, kids have died from airbags at an impact at 40mph.

Good luck to your future children. I hope your wife is smarter than you. :tu

It's not a matter of being flippant, it's more of a matter of not caring. If it's my baby, I care, I'm just going to call bullshit on the majority of you people actually caring about Britney's baby. Because if that's really the case, there are about a million other bad decisions parents have made today across this planet. She made a mistake, there's no denying that. It's just stupid that I've read and heard people calling her a "stupid, fucking bitch" online and in class. Long story short, you people are way too harsh on celebrities.

[Kori Ellis]

It's not a matter of being flippant, it's more of a matter of not caring. If it's my baby, I care, I'm just going to call bullshit on the majority of you people actually caring about Britney's baby. Because if that's really the case, there are about a million other bad decisions parents have made today across this planet. She made a mistake, there's no denying that. It's just stupid that I've read and heard people calling her a "stupid, fucking bitch" online and in class. Long story short, you people are way too harsh on celebrities.

It's a matter of being flippant and obnoxious.

It's not about her being a celebrity. If she was a poor nobody and there was pictures of her driving on the street with her baby, I'd still say she's a stupid, fucking bitch.

[CharlieMac]

It's a matter of being flippant and obnoxious.

It's not about her being a celebrity. If she was a poor nobody and there was pictures of her driving on the street with her baby, I'd still say she's a stupid, fucking bitch.

That's funny. Obnoxious I can understand, I'm way obnoxious in this forum, but I'm sitting here in class having a hard time applying flippant to this particular situation. Either way, class is out and I think I'm done defending Britney Spears for the day.

[Kori Ellis]

Flippant means lacking proper seriousness. Was your 200mph post serious? :rolleyes

[George W Bush]

I like Flippant.
My favorite show as a kid. That funny dolphin :lol

[Kori Ellis]

Ya all are fucking idiots. It was her choice. Her baby. Her life. NOTHING BAD HAPPENED. It is a risk that SHE took. And it worked out just fine. If the baby had died, then criticize her all you want.

STFU you are a fucking idiot. There's laws against endangering your children for a reason.

[Kori Ellis]

:lol

We all have a right to our own opinion. And mine just happens to be that your's sucks ass.

Do what you want with your baby. If I ever have kids, I would never do what Britney did. But what you guys don't get is that this is Britney's life.

The only reason this is a big deal is because she is a celeb. I guarantee there are over 100 people who do the same thing everyday and go unnoticed.

Ya all are jealous haters. If this was someone you all liked (like Tim Duncan), you would say he had a good excuse for doing what he did. But since it is Britney, you guys all bash her more.

You know, you are so fucking stupid it amazes me everyday.

It's not about her being a celebrity. Anyone who endangers their kids is fucking stupid. If a common person was doing it and we knew about it (i.e. through pictures) then we'd say the same thing. People get in trouble (fined, arrested, etc) everyday for endangering their kids.

If it was Tim Duncan, I'd say he was a stupid too. It doesn't matter who is doing it - it's the act of doing it that's stupid.

And why would anyone be jealous of her? Money? Who cares.

[Kori Ellis]

But what you guys don't get is that this is Britney's life.

No, you don't get it's her baby's life not hers. And that's why there's laws to protect children.

[CharlieMac]

Flippant means lacking proper seriousness. Was your 200mph post serious? :rolleyes


Come on Kori, I know what it means. But I guess I didn't think it really applied to what I posted because I was serious about them coming out at 200mph. (aside from the remote control part). That's why I conceded and admitted that those airbags can do major damage.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/airbag1.htm

[Trainwreck2100]

Exactly. Princess Diana was the first thing I thought of when I heard this story. They thought it wouldn't happen to them, too.

That's bs, she was killed by the queen because she was about to uncover that Tupac wasn't dead, but wnet back in time and shot JFK.

[midgetonadonkey]

Princess Diana killed Biggie. It's a scientific fact.

[Guru of Nothing]

All parents make fuck-ups; especially the one's who think they don't fuck up.

[Trainwreck2100]

Princess Diana killed Biggie. It's a scientific fact.

I thought Princess Diana was Biggie?

[ZStomp]

I don't hate her.
I don't like her.
Who gives a rats ass? :lol

[SpursWoman]

I don't hate her.
I don't like her.
Who gives a rats ass? :lol


I really couldn't GAF about Britney Spears ... and the fact that she has to fuck KFed would kill anything left after that. She's a dumbass who deserves to get in trouble for putting her child's life in danger...just like any other dumbass who does the same thing. Just because people are taking pictures of Britney's fuck-ups and not everyone else's is irrelevant.

I saw some stupid bitch driving around with 4 little toddlers jumping around in the back seat the other day. If it wasn't for fact that the toddlers were not in car seats or buckled up, I would have gladly run that bitch off the road.


:fro

[ObiwanGinobili]

Last year after the Rodeo I saw a suburban down town with the "dad" driving and hte "mom' in the front seat with what looked ot be about a 6month old on her lap (feeding him a bottle of some dark dark liquid..... I'm guessing cocacola but i'm hoping it was grape pedialyte) to top that off they had a 2/3yr old boy standing on the bench seat bewteen them.thi was on the roads downtown @ 11pm. Not in parking lot. And evertime the dad hit the brakes the son fell onto the dash board.

I called the fucking cops. I was incensed. These people were not celebritys. Thye were stupid shit heads, and so is Brittany Spears

[Spam]

I'll admit I wouldn't mind being cushioned by Britney's fun bags but that was one dumb move on her part.

[Buddy Holly]

GiG is the gayest person since gay hit gaytown.

[Shelly]

All I gonna say is that the harsh reactions she is getting for this stunt would not be the same as those that a likeable person (like Duncan) would get for the same action.

You all hate Britney. This is just one more reason to do so. Who are we to judge?

Yeah, if it was Duncan, I'd have the same reaction also. Just like I do with any idiot I don't know doing the same thing as Britney.

[Vashner]

Don't throw Timmy and wife in there. Amy or Tim is not going to do that..

Can we pick on Artest or Rodman?

[pache100]

But eriks, we also didn't have airbags growing up, and it wasn't typical, growing up, for the kid to be in the driver's lap.

Wearing a seatbelt and requiring children to be in the backseat restrained in safety seats also was not a law when many of us were growing up. Now it IS the law in most states because people like Britney Spears do not have any common sense and someone has to protect their children for them. And being a celebrity does not exempt you from obeying laws.

[pache100]

That's funny. Obnoxious I can understand, I'm way obnoxious in this forum, but I'm sitting here in class having a hard time applying flippant to this particular situation.

:rolleyes


that airbag did some damage to my hand. To make thinsg worse, it was my remote control hand.

That, my friend, is the definition of flippant.

[pache100]

That's bs, she was killed by the queen because she was about to uncover that Tupac wasn't dead, but wnet back in time and shot JFK.

THAT is bs.

[desflood]

Some people should be sterilized for the good of the whole. Unfortunately (or, maybe not so much), nobody is in a position to decide such things.

[midgetonadonkey]

Kevin Federline is a great musician and a great person. I hope he has a few words with Britney.

[pache100]

Kevin Federline is a great musician and a great person.

:lol :lmao

[Buddy Holly]

Anyone hear Kevin Federline's new hit song?

http://www.youtube.com/?v=S7cAYK9GYHY

[George W Bush]

Anyone hear Kevin Federline's new hit song?

http://www.youtube.com/?v=S7cAYK9GYHY

No, but if anyone did, I'm sure it would be you.
God Bless America :tu

[polandprzem]

Hey George - how you find a time to post on the basketball forum?

Are you ready for the new polish president visit?

And what you gonna do with mother which are not carry about their childs safety?

[George W Bush]

Hey George - how you find a time to post on the basketball forum?

Well, as you all know, I'm usually on vacation more than 110% of the time, well, maybe even more then that, so I like to spread freedoms on the internets in my free time, even basket forums. I like basketballs, by the way. I had one once, when I was a kiddo. It was kinda round. And we both got into a fight once,
what can I say, I won.


Are you ready for the new polish president visit?

As for the Pollish president, you know, I don't much listen to polls, I've never liked em to be honest with ya, but if I did, I would do whatever was neccessary to put them outa harms way. Wiretapping the Ukraine would be a good start. It's something my adminstrations are very serious about. And by the way, we take it very seriously.



And what you gonna do with mother which are not carry about their childs safety?

As for Britney and her child? I say,
How often do we ask the question,
Is our children learning?

Oops, Karl Rove is callin' me,
somethin' about Timmy Duncans fone conservations,
I better run, and remember,

God Bless America :tu

[polandprzem]

you know, I don't much listen to polls,I've never liked em to be honest with ya
God Bless America :tu

ohhhh yeah?


:flipoff

[Chewbacca]

ARRRGGGGHHH!!!

[Lady Marmalade]

i for one is not shocked spears would do this.

[PM5K]

Eh, nowadays people have nothing better do do than to get their panties all tied up in a bunch because of what other people are doing.

[pache100]

Eh, nowadays people have nothing better do do than to get their panties all tied up in a bunch because of what other people are doing.

My panties are just fine (no knots), thanks for asking. I don't give a shit what Britney does with her own body. When I take offense is when she drags an innocent baby into her stupid little games. And I don't like anyone, especially celebrities, who think that laws apply to everyone but them. That is all.

[SpursWoman]

Eh, nowadays people have nothing better do do than to get their panties all tied up in a bunch because of what other people are doing.

You're right. Why in the hell should we GAF about people not big enough to defend or take care of themselves?

[George W Bush]

You're right. Why in the hell should we GAF about people not big enough to defend or take care of themselves?

or defend freedom.

[RashoFan]

Unfortunately with Britany Spears AND other parents who do not utilize seatbelts and car seats for their children...I will still have a job. God help me when the day comes when I have to work on a child that was needlessly injured in a car accident(MVA) because someone didn't take the time to put their child in a car seat, have their child wear a seat belt, hold their child in their lap. These kids don't just land on the hood...they go flying through the air until friction loss,loss of momentum and gravity stop them or they hit something which causes a sudden deceleration....instantaneously...Man...now I am sad and pissed and I am digressing!!! Just ask any EMT,Paramedics,Firefighters,Nurses and Doctors what their thoughts are....be ready to hear very emotional rants, be ready to give us a drink or be ready to hand us some tissue and give us a hug. :pctoss :pctoss :pctoss

[midgetonadonkey]

I always see people driving around with kids not in car seats. It's probably because they have about 6 kids and there is not enough room in the car for that many car seats. I guess driving around with them not in car seats is better than leaving them home alone.

[PM5K]

Bingo!

All you bitches should fix your own problems first before worrying about a 100+ million dollar celebrity.

I just don't think it's that big of a deal, I know a lot of people that get their sons and put them on their lap and let them steer the wheel while they drive to the corner store, is this considerably different, I don't know because I don't know where she was, how far she drove, or how fast she was going but at the end of the day I'm not going to make a big deal out of something like this because it really isn't.....

[Melmart1]

Bingo!

All you bitches should fix your own problems first before worrying about a 100+ million dollar celebrity.

So... I am curious. Are you saying don't worry cus you shouldn't worry about anyone that isn't you, or don't worry cus she has money?

[midgetonadonkey]

If she accidently kills this baby she can just buy herself another one, straight cash.

[SpursWoman]

Bingo!

All you bitches should fix your own problems first before worrying about a 100+ million dollar celebrity.


All of the money in the world won't bring back a dead baby, dipshit. :rolleyes

[SpursWoman]

So... I am curious. Are you saying don't worry cus you shouldn't worry about anyone that isn't you, or don't worry cus she has money?

He's saying don't worry....we're all just jealous because we don't have as much money as she does to buy a new one if we kill our own.

:drunk

[ObiwanGinobili]

I just don't think it's that big of a deal, I know a lot of people that get their sons and put them on their lap and let them steer the wheel while they drive to the corner store, is this considerably different, I don't know because I don't know where she was, how far she drove, or how fast she was going but at the end of the day I'm not going to make a big deal out of something like this because it really isn't.....


those people shouldn;t be doing that either. thats just WRONG. even if thier kid is 7 thats wrong. If i saw folks doing that I would call the cops.

[ObiwanGinobili]

He's saying don't worry....we're all just jealous because we don't have as much money as she does to buy a new one if we kill our own.

:drunk


dude. I bet she buys another one and just pretends it's the same kid.

[pache100]

We can only hope that the people here who don't think this is a big deal/none of our business/not worthy of their concern NEVER REPRODUCE. Because they don't deserve children, IMO. And children certainly don't deserve to wind up with parents like them.

[Shelly]

We can only hope that the people here who don't think this is a big deal/none of our business/not worthy of their concern NEVER REPRODUCE. Because they don't deserve children, IMO. And children certainly don't deserve to wind up with parents like them.


Exactly!

And because Rasho Fan's post bears repeating to those of you that don't get it.

Unfortunately with Britany Spears AND other parents who do not utilize seatbelts and car seats for their children...I will still have a job. God help me when the day comes when I have to work on a child that was needlessly injured in a car accident(MVA) because someone didn't take the time to put their child in a car seat, have their child wear a seat belt, hold their child in their lap. These kids don't just land on the hood...they go flying through the air until friction loss,loss of momentum and gravity stop them or they hit something which causes a sudden deceleration....instantaneously...Man...now I am sad and pissed and I am digressing!!! Just ask any EMT,Paramedics,Firefighters,Nurses and Doctors what their thoughts are....be ready to hear very emotional rants, be ready to give us a drink or be ready to hand us some tissue and give us a hug.

[SpursWoman]

Also something to think about...I've seen documentaries (with crash dummies & all) that show that in most instances of adults in the front seat who are holding a child and are in an accident ... aside from the whole airbag thing ... it's the momentum and weight of the adult crushing the child into the dashboard or steering wheel that causes the most injury to the child, moreso than flying through the windshield or if it were to hit the dashboard on it's own. But I guess because Britney has a lot of money and lots of guys jack off to pictures of her, her baby's safety is less relevant than us poor, old, ugly folks.

:fro

[Melmart1]

He's saying don't worry....we're all just jealous because we don't have as much money as she does to buy a new one if we kill our own.

:drunk

Yeah, I thought he would say something like that, but I thought he would come back and answer it himself. Guess I gave him too much credit.

If Britney is that much of an idiot to endanger her child like that, then I would rather be the working jane I am than have all her money. This is not an exaggeration, either. I can honestly say I would rather be smart, middle class and with healthy kids than rich, dumb and burying one.

[ObiwanGinobili]

To go along with what SW said....

Does anyone remeber that report on 20/20 that they did with the national highway safety institute??
IF you are in an accident @ 30MPH holding a 10lb baby on your lap the force of that 10lb baby becomes 10x's 30 and is too much for ANY human to hold onto in a collision. the child then goes flying thru the windshield (even if there is an airbag - those things start defalting immediatly). There is no way humanly possible to hold onto the baby.
So if your sitting your infant on your lap & driving then you are consciously just waiting for it to die.

[SpursWoman]

Because of that show, I have issues letting my 10 & 9 year old sit in the front seat (I have duel airbags) even though they are realistically *bigger* than a lot of older woman I know. Only in the neighborhood and NEVER if we're in a highly-trafficked area.

I'm a mean mom & I love arguing with them about this. :)

[Shelly]

My 10 year old doesn't sit in the front. My car has dual airbags also, but the other two detect the weight and turn off automatically if it's under a certain weight.

[Melmart1]

I have a 7-yr old nephew who always rides in the backseat, or so I thought.

One night, I am taking him to Sonic cus he wants an ice cream cone. He climbs in the front seat of the car and I tell him to get in back. "Mommy lets me ride in front at night when its dark. The cops can't see me that way." That made me angry, cus she obviously had him in back cus she didn't want a ticket, not because of his safety. :bang

I swear, I have learned so much from her about kids that by the time I have my own, I will either be a great mom or a paranoid one. But hopefully somewhere in between. :lol

[Sapphire]

I think it's really awesome that everyone seems genuinely concerned about little Sean Preston. I just wish that there was that same "busy-bodiness" here in our own town! Just since the new year started, there have been 7 or 8 cases already where parents have killed or seriously injured their own kids. Surely they all didn't just "snap"--there is usually some sort of progression in these cases, and someone usually sees and doesn't say anything. I know there is a difference in someone not strapping their kid in, and someone who shakes a crying baby, but it's all a form of abuse. We all see things probably every time we go to a Wal-Mart (or anywhere in public) and think to ourselves, "ya know, some people just shouldn't be allowed to reproduce." I wish there was some way to help these kids, but ??????????

At first I thought everyone was making a big deal out of this, but you know what? We need to make a big deal out of this. Someone needs to watch out for these kids.

[Shelly]

I agree Sapphire. It kills me to watch the news sometimes.

[ObiwanGinobili]

agreed.
the paper last sunday had the timeline of abuse arrests laid out there on the front page.... :depressed
just reading that story made me cry. a 4 month old with skull fractures ... the guy who beat his 4yr old with a tree branch... :flipoff.
in all seriousness - if I ever ran across these people IRL I'd most likely snap and do somethign that would land me in jail.

[Mixability]

the guy who beat his 4yr old with a tree branch...

but according to GiG, it's the guys kid, so beating their "property" is fine... :rolleyes

:pctoss

I wish GiG's parents would've beat him..... :lol

[Melmart1]

Maybe they did, and that is why he has issues?

[PM5K]

those people shouldn;t be doing that either. thats just WRONG. even if thier kid is 7 thats wrong. If i saw folks doing that I would call the cops.

Then you really need to find something better to do with your life, because you obviously don't have one.

I bet you call CPS when you go to a friends house and they don't have those clear plugs in the electrical outlets.

I have three kids, one in a booster, one in a rear facing seat, and one in a seat belt.

None of them ever sit in the front seat, but if one of these days I feel like letting my son sit in my lap while I go to the convenience store down the street, going ten miles an hour at best, then I don't see what the big fucking deal is.

[Sapphire]

Um, it's illegal? Not to mention dangerous.

[Melmart1]

Then you really need to find something better to do with your life, because you obviously don't have one.
.

Why all the hostility?

Surely, if you saw someone beating their child to a bloody pulp, you would report them, yes?

Well, all it takes is one drunk driver or one idiot on a cell phone not paying attention going 40mph while you are driving 10mph to the convenience store with your kid in your lap. If they hit you, then your kid will be worse off than if he were that child getting beat to a bloody pulp. So which is really worse? To me, they are both endangering your child (not to mention AGAINST THE LAW), and both need to be reported.

What I don't think you get is that it's not about YOU, its about the child, and what others are doing around you. Britney could have an immaculate driving record and be an impeccable driver. But all it would have taken is one idiot driving near her to negate the perfect driving and kill her child.

[SpursWoman]

In any case, I wish I were able to plan when I was going to have an accident ... because then I would know for sure when it was or wasn't okay to put my child's little chest 6 inches in front of a 200mph airbag. :)

[ObiwanGinobili]

Then you really need to find something better to do with your life, because you obviously don't have one.

I bet you call CPS when you go to a friends house and they don't have those clear plugs in the electrical outlets.
I have three kids, one in a booster, one in a rear facing seat, and one in a seat belt.

None of them ever sit in the front seat, but if one of these days I feel like letting my son sit in my lap while I go to the convenience store down the street, going ten miles an hour at best, then I don't see what the big fucking deal is.


no you dumbass.
I call the cops when people are doing dumbass illegal shit that is/will seriously injure thier children.


Chapter 545. Operation and Movement of Vehicles

Sec. 545.412. Child Passenger Safety Seat Systems; Offense.

Text

(a) A person commits an offense if the person operates a passenger vehicle, transports a child who is younger than five years of age and less than 36 inches in height, and does not keep the child secured during the operation of the vehicle in a child passenger safety seat system according to the instructions of the manufacturer of the safety seat system

[ObiwanGinobili]

http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/welcome/safety/car_seats_safety/back_seat.html

Remember: One Person - One Belt
Never hold a child on your lap because you could crush him in a collision. Even if you are using a safety belt, the child would be torn from your arms in a crash.Never put a belt around yourself and a child on your lap.Two people with one belt around them could injure each other.The cargo area of a station wagon, van, or pickup is a very dangerous place for anyone to ride. Anyone riding in the bed of a pickup truck, even under a canopy, could be thrown out!

[Shelly]

None of them ever sit in the front seat, but if one of these days I feel like letting my son sit in my lap while I go to the convenience store down the street, going ten miles an hour at best, then I don't see what the big fucking deal is.


It will be a big fucking deal if someone in your residental area decides to blow off a stop sign or maybe just doesn't see you and crashes into your car.

But yeah, that could NEVER happen, right?

[SpursWoman]

Of course not. Accidents only happen on purpose. :)

[pache100]

if one of these days I feel like letting my son sit in my lap while I go to the convenience store down the street, going ten miles an hour at best, then I don't see what the big fucking deal is.

Then, I can only hope that there is a policeman sitting in the parking lot of your convenience store and that he gives you a ticket for breaking the law. Maybe that will make a believer out of you, but I doubt it. It will mean that the policeman and the state of Texas care more about your child than you do; the moving vehicle child restraint laws had to be passed because of people just like you. I don't care if you have 49 kids and live in a shoe...if you put a small child on your lap inside a moving vehicle on a public street going any speed, you are breaking the law and you should pay the penalty. I feel sorry for your children.

There is a law in Texas against this practice and there is a special number that other people on the road can call to report it. I hope that when you do let your son sit on your lap while you go to the convenience store down the street, going 10 miles an hour at best (I don't believe that for a minute, BTW), that someone sees the big fucking deal and calls and reports your ass. Maybe the Sheriff will come knocking on your door like they did Britney.

[Shelly]

Hmmm...Let's see.

Case #1: My mother is at a left turn lane. She begins to turn probably going less than 10 mph, when someone trying to beat a yellow light slams into her. All the airbags go off and the car is totaled. She had my nieces and nephew in the car with her, all wearing seatbelts. Everyone walks away without a scratch.

Case #2: My friends husband is the 3rd car at a traffic light and the light turns green. I'm sure the cars haven't picked up much speed yet. Some asshole doing 70 plows into my friend's car because he was in a hurry. He gets taken away in an ambulance, but luckily is okay. Airbags did go off and the car is totaled.

Good thing neither my mom or my friendn's husband had a child sitting on their lap!

[Crookshanks]

I've called that number a couple of times. You have to give them the license plate number and description of the car.

And, I confronted a stupid woman in the parking lot of the Home Depot at IH-10 and Dezavala because she didn't have her child in a car seat. I told her if she didn't put the child in the car seat I was going to call the cops right then and there!

[pache100]

I've called that number a couple of times. You have to give them the license plate number and description of the car.

Yes. I think that's reasonable. The number, BTW, for anyone who would like to make a note of it is (866) 886-5957.


And, I confronted a stupid woman in the parking lot of the Home Depot at IH-10 and Dezavala because she didn't have her child in a car seat. I told her if she didn't put the child in the car seat I was going to call the cops right then and there!

Good for you! I confronted a woman in the Sam's parking lot just before Christmas. She opened the back of a cargo van (it looked like her business vehicle) and set a little boy in the back (maybe 3?), went to the driver's door, got in, and cranked the engine. I was parked right next to her and I watched to see if he was going to get into a car seat or something. He didn't, I could still see him walking around back there through the window. When she started backing up, I motioned for her to stop and I told her I had made a note of her vehicle make/license plate # and was going to call the police if she didn't put that baby in a car seat. She was SOOO pissed, but she got out and put him in the bench seat behind her and strapped a seat belt on him. There wasn't a child seat in the thing anywhere! What the hell are people thinking??????

I also called the police to some people parked in that same parking lot last summer because they'd left two dogs in the truck. The police were still talking to them when I left.

[ChumpDumper]

Nobody drives 10mph. I call bullshit.

[ALVAREZ6]

what a stupid fucking bitch....

[easjer]

You know PMK, if you let your son 'drive' in an empty field or on your driveway, I really wouldn't care. I helped my dad 'drive' the lawnmower and loved it.

But everyone else here is right, and I really hope you see what they are saying - it's not you who might hurt your child - it's the other things out there you can't control.

I got hit while at a full stop on the highway one day because some guys breaks failed and he was going way too fast. I could have had a child on my lap then (and we were at a full stop, what harm would it have caused?), and they would have been crushed against the steering wheel by body. I was lucky the airbags didn't deploy then, but if they had, that child would have been killed by the combined forces of my weight thrown violently forwad and the airbag compressing at 200 mph.

I don't think you are a bad person or wilfully endangering your child - after all, most of us sat in the front seats of our parent's cars and were out of car seats by three, and slept stretched out in the backseat, or sat in the back of the pick-up, or helped dad drive and we all turned out just fine.

But cars are not the same these days, and any moron (drunk, tired, buzzed, inexperienced or not paying attention) can kill you when you are doing nothing but obeying the driving laws. It just doesn't make sense to risk a child's life, and that is why it is illegal to do so.

[2Blonde]

For me this whole Britney thing boils down to why she did it. If she truly feared for the safety of herself and her child then I can understand her actions, but from what I have read I don't see that. She had her bodyguard and it was daytime on a city street.
I know that when my daughter was little one of my big fears was that I would be leaving Walmart or a mall after dark and someone would be lurking nearby. I decided if I was ever caught in that situation that I would get my daughter and I in the car ASAP and drive away and worry about putting her in her car seat when we were safely away from that area. Luckily we were usually able to get a security guard to walk with us to the car, because with the hours I worked I had to do most of my shopping in the evenings. But had the need ever arisen, getting us away from the immediate danger would have definitely taken precedence over the car seat.
I just think Britney had more choices and I would like to think she has learned from this. I don't know a mom alive who hasn't made mistakes, but hopefully she'll learn from hers.

[bigzak25]

Go Britney Go!

I'm a big britney spears fan NOW. i never really cared for her before, but the more people hate and chastise her, the more i love her. was she right or wrong? i don't care. cuz it's not my business. is it yours? maybe you think so. good for you.

paparazzi's are a motherfucker, but even if there was NO papparazzi, i'd still say it's her business and it's up to the cops to catch her and pull her ass over.

otherwise? non-issue. :)

[bigzak25]

I've called that number a couple of times. You have to give them the license plate number and description of the car.

And, I confronted a stupid woman in the parking lot of the Home Depot at IH-10 and Dezavala because she didn't have her child in a car seat. I told her if she didn't put the child in the car seat I was going to call the cops right then and there!


ever heard of M.Y.O.F. Business. :lmao

[sa_butta]

Go Britney Go!

I'm a big britney spears fan NOW. i never really cared for her before, but the more people hate and chastise her, the more i love her. was she right or wrong? i don't care. cuz it's not my business. is it yours? maybe you think so. good for you.

paparazzi's are a motherfucker, but even if there was NO papparazzi, i'd still say it's her business and it's up to the cops to catch her and pull her ass over.

otherwise? non-issue. :)If I saw a baby's life in danger, not even my own I would make it my business cause they have no way to defend themselves. Even if it means just calling the cops myself. But it would not be ignored.

[SpursWoman]

If I saw a baby's life in danger, not even my own I would make it my business cause they have no way to defend themselves.


Well, it's very well documented that there a bunch of pussies out there that would turn the other way if they saw someone beating a child, too....because they were M.T.O.F.B.

Sad, really. I hope those kids made it.

[bigzak25]

so i take it alot of the people in this thread that are outraged are definitely Pro Lifers and make it their business to write down liscense plate numbers at abortion clinics? not to take it there...but yeah...i did...:lol

[bigzak25]

well sometimes those kids need an asswhuppin. no blood no foul. :tu

i'm not partial to headshots or below the waist blows unless it's the patented buttsmack.

[sa_butta]

Well, it's very well documented that there a bunch of pussies out there that would turn the other way if they saw someone beating a child, too. Sad, really. I hope those kids made it.And dont say you must have to be a parent to understand, cause that is bullshit everyone should realize that babies are harmless and defenseless. If a childs life is in danger dont turn away it is your duty as a human-being to get involved. Like I said even if it means just calling the cops.

[sa_butta]

well sometimes those kids need an asswhuppin. no blood no foul. :tu

i'm not partial to headshots or below the waist blows unless it's the patented buttsmack.Some kids may need a buttwhoopin, but this is a baby we are talking about. We are not talking about buttwhoopins, we are talking about a careless mother not strapping her baby down in a vehicle.

[SpursWoman]

so i take it alot of the people in this thread that are outraged are definitely Pro Lifers and make it their business to write down liscense plate numbers at abortion clinics? not to take it there...but yeah...i did...:lol


Wow, that was brilliant. I guess since I didn't decide to abort my children it's prefectly okay if I abuse them however I so choose. Which would include, btw, conscienciously putting them in potentially life-threatening situations.

Cool. BRB...got some kids to mutilate. :)

[gatoloco]

Kill Britney and Abort all her babies!!! That stupeed, white trash, trailer park, irresponsible, reckless, good for nothing, shame of a mother BITCH!!! :cuss

[gatoloco]

Some kids may need a buttwhoopin, but this is a baby we are talking about. We are not talking about buttwhoopins, we are talking about a careless mother not strapping her baby down in a vehicle.


i don't know meng. when i was just a kitten? i pissed on the remote and they put me in a pillow case and played bang the wall with it.
i let them flip channels as much as they want now.

[PM5K]

I don't know a mom alive who hasn't made mistakes, but hopefully she'll learn from hers.

Or a Dad for that matter. And as someone else mentioned, although not in the same context but yes you DO have to be a parent to understand, we aren't always perfect, you will make mistakes of varyind degrees especially when it's your first child as with Britney, and it's quite easy to sit at a computer and criticize someone else when you weren't even in their specific situation and didn't have to make the same choices.

[Vashner]

Choices? Not taking the time to put the baby in was the wrong choice. The media didn't have RPG's and stuff they have camera's.

She admitted she fucked up... end of story.

[pache100]

so i take it alot of the people in this thread that are outraged are definitely Pro Lifers and make it their business to write down liscense plate numbers at abortion clinics? not to take it there...but yeah...i did...:lol


Pro-choice all the way. You are reaching there. One is not relevant to the other.

[Mixability]

None of them ever sit in the front seat, but if one of these days I feel like letting my son sit in my lap while I go to the convenience store down the street, going ten miles an hour at best, then I don't see what the big fucking deal is.

Moron....

just my .02

[BigPussy]

If the kids head ain't split, you gotta acquit.