The Kiwi has been FREED

[MannyIsGod]

But will he remain free now that Horry is back? This guy needs as many minutes if not more than Nazr and Rasho.

[King]

Is the shot clock in New Zealand like 8 seconds long or something?

[exstatic]

Marks is extremely smart and competent on O, but is tissue paper on D. He can't guard anyone, but I agree that he should take some of Nazr's minutes, since he can't either.

[T Park]

I wouldn't give him eithers minutes, until he proves it against a good team, and not the craptors

[MannyIsGod]

What? He plays very good Defense, although not as good as Rasho. He's better than any other bigman they have. And for all the credit Nazr gets on the boards, he's not as good as Marks in that category.

Marks just needs to stay healthy.

[MannyIsGod]

I wouldn't give him eithers minutes, until he proves it against a good team, and not the craptorsRight. So untill he proves he he doesn't get a chance to prove it. Ok.

[exstatic]

Anyone who can handle the ball (Bosh) can work him. Anyone with a big body can post him up. He doesn't block shots. He is, however, usually in the right place, unlike Nazr.

[timvp]

Marks is playing very good.

Too bad he has no lateral quickness on defense :(

[MannyIsGod]

Well, any big that can handle the ball is going to work any of our bigs. He DOES block shots, though.

[T Park]

Too bad he has no lateral quickness on defense

can't defend, you wont play the big minutes.

That simple.

[MannyIsGod]

Marks does defend and he does redbound. If you want him to be David Robinson off the bench, then he won't play. But against the options we have he looks damn good.

[exstatic]

Well, any big that can handle the ball is going to work any of our bigs. He DOES block shots, though.

Rasho, the stationary mountain, did a better job on Bosh.

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

Rasho is the man on defense. I'm all for giving Marks Nazr's minutes though.

[DDS4]

Danny Ferry reincarnated.

[Das Texan]

I like what Marks is able to give us.


He needs more minutes.

[Kori Ellis]

Rasho, the stationary mountain, did a better job on Bosh.

Bowen did the best job on Bosh. I admit he couldn't have done it all game, but Bowen guarded Bosh the whole overtime and fronted him. Bosh didn't even touch the ball the whole OT.

Great game by Marks though. I don't mind him on the court at all.

[SequSpur]

As usual Exstatic and Tpark with their heads up their ass.

Marks was key to winning the game. To many whitees for ya?

[ploto]

Bowen did the best job on Bosh. I admit he couldn't have done it all game, but Bowen guarded Bosh the whole overtime and fronted him. Bosh didn't even touch the ball the whole OT.


True that Bowen did a great job in the OT- but also important was the fact that the entire fourth quarter, Bosh only had 2 baskets and NO rebounds with Rasho guarding him and playing the full 12 minutes. After the first half Bosh had, Pop switched Rasho onto him the second half.

[Kori Ellis]

True that Bowen did a great job in the OT- but also important was the fact that the entire fourth quarter, Bosh only had 2 baskets and NO rebounds with Rasho guarding him and playing the full 12 minutes.

Yeah Rasho played great on him. Rasho also had a very important, awesome put back slam :drunk

[SequSpur]

Yeah Rasho played great on him. Rasho also had a very important, awesome put back slam :drunk

Rasho actually got me off the couch for that one. I thought it was Marks... :lol :lol

Then I was like Holy Shit that was Rasho.........

:lol

[LilMissSPURfect]

:king :king :king :king :king :king :king :king :king

RASHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Das Texan]

Rasho actually got me off the couch for that one. I thought it was Marks... :lol :lol

Then I was like Holy Shit that was Rasho.........

:lol

and then rasho later yelled at the refs!


i was saying, holy fucking shit, rasho showing emotion out there, where has that been all my life????


good game by rasho and marks. too bad they both fouled out.

[T Park]

Marks was key to winning the game

Marks was the reason they had a 10 point lead at the half.


Rasho and Finley were the reasons they won.


Nesterovic's rebounding and baskets in the 4th are the reason they even had a chance at winning.

[SequSpur]

Marks was the reason they had a 10 point lead at the half.

Rasho and Finley were the reasons they won.

Nesterovic's rebounding and baskets in the 4th are the reason they even had a chance at winning.

4 whitees and a brotha took the lead from 2 to 14 and then Pop went back to the balla lineup and the game was tied.

Marks was the shit.

[exstatic]

Hey, I gave him his propers on offense. I can't help it if he's a fucking turnstile on D. Recognize, shrimp.

[angel_luv]

:lol

Rasho is the man on defense. I'm all for giving Marks Nazr's minutes though.

Here, here :elephant

[SequSpur]

Hey, I gave him his propers on offense. I can't help it if he's a fucking turnstile on D. Recognize, shrimp.

Obviously tonight called for the offensive game plan dufus.

[exstatic]

Obviously tonight called for the offensive game plan dufus.
Well, yes, with Marks defending the paint it did...

[T Park]

lol.

Sequ doesn't quite grasp the whole

"Defense wins championships" concept.

Youd think after 99, 03, and 05, he would've gotten it by now.

[yeahone]

Marks have a great shooting touch

[Horry For 3!]

Marks 25 mins 8-9 fg 0-2 ft 16 pts 5 rebs 2 asts 1 blk

[SequSpur]

lol.

Sequ doesn't quite grasp the whole

"Defense wins championships" concept.

Youd think after 99, 03, and 05, he would've gotten it by now.

Toronto wasn't in the championship.

Sometimes the Spurs just need to show up and take control of the game by running their asses out of the building.

[SequSpur]

Marks 25 mins 8-9 fg 0-2 ft 16 pts 5 rebs 2 asts 1 blk

Tpark just ordered his jersey.........

[T Park]

Uh, no.

Im never ordering a Sean Marks jersey...

[Horry For 3!]

He got his career high tonight in 16 pts. His old career high was 15 pts when he was with the Heat.

[exstatic]

Marks 25 mins 8-9 fg 0-2 ft 16 pts 5 rebs 2 asts 1 blk

Don't forget...6 fouls. :lol

[MannyIsGod]

lol.

Sequ doesn't quite grasp the whole

"Defense wins championships" concept.

Youd think after 99, 03, and 05, he would've gotten it by now.Tpark doesn't grasp the whole "Our bench bigs don't play defense worth a shit" concept.

You't think after watching them this season, he would've gotten it by now.

Except, you wouldn't because he's Tpark.

[T Park]

Tpark doesn't grasp the whole "Our bench bigs don't play defense worth a shit" concept.

You't think after watching them this season, he would've gotten it by now.

Except, you wouldn't because he's Tpark.



True, Marks cant play defense.

Just because Im not enamored with a 7 foot white stiff that shoots jumpers and couldn't defend a damn 7th grader doesn't make me any more wrong.


Id say Horry plays pretty decent defense.

hes a bench big.

[SequSpur]

True, Marks cant play defense.

Just because Im not enamored with a 7 foot white stiff that shoots jumpers and couldn't defend a damn 7th grader doesn't make me any more wrong.


Id say Horry plays pretty decent defense.

hes a bench big.


Fuck it... lets just score 60 something points a game.....

yeah... that will get us past Detroit........

STFU.

[MannyIsGod]

Marks and Horry are pretty equal on defense with the caveot being that Marks is 10x the rebounder Horry is. Horry may also be a better help defender.

[T Park]

Horry and Marks are equal on D??

Ive heard it all.

[Horry For 3!]

Horry is a better defender than Marks

[Kori Ellis]

Marks and Horry are pretty equal on defense with the caveot being that Marks is 10x the rebounder Horry is. Horry may also be a better help defender.

:wtf

Horry is a much better defender than Marks.

And if you extrapolate Marks stats to Horry's minutes. Marks would average a little over 4 rebounds. Horry averages 3.8. Not quite 10 times the rebounder.

Marks is a good hustle player and has a nice shooting touch. Nothing more, nothing less.

[SequSpur]

Sean Marks is just what the Spurs need.

A little rebounding, some shooting from a big, hustle and some spunk.........

Duncan, Manu and Parker are the Stars... They just need some solid role players that are multidimensional....

[Kori Ellis]

Sean Marks is just what the Spurs need.

A little rebounding, some shooting from a big, hustle and some spunk.........

Duncan, Manu and Parker are the Stars... They just need some solid role players that are multidimensional....

I agree. He should get some playing time. Especially in games like this where they need another shooter and an emotional player.

[SequSpur]

:wtf

Horry is a much better defender than Marks.

And if you extrapolate Marks stats to Horry's minutes. Marks would average a little over 4 rebounds. Horry averages 3.8. Not quite 10 times the rebounder.

Marks is a good hustle player and has a nice shooting touch. Nothing more, nothing less.

Horry knows his role... He rebounds when the Spurs need it, he blocks shots when Duncan is out, he shoots the three when the Spurs are down and need a lift... he also is an option for a gamewinner which few teams have...

I got no problem with Horry. My issue is the wetdreams of Bowen being a DPOY when he clearly is not going to win and never will. It's wasted breath.

[Horry For 3!]

Is Timmy playing in the game Friday against the Nets?

[SequSpur]

I agree. He should get some playing time. Especially in games like this where they need another shooter and an emotional player.

Why thank you Mrs. Ellis. :angel

[Kori Ellis]

My issue is the wetdreams of Bowen being a DPOY when he clearly is not going to win and never will. It's wasted breath.

Wrong thread.

[Solid D]

What are the playoff rules on rosters. 12 players set at the beginning, no changes, as before....
or
new Inactive rules?

I forget.

[SequSpur]

Wrong thread.

:lol

I noticed that.... really I did.... :lol

[Spurminator]

I got no problem with Horry. My issue is the wetdreams of Bowen being a DPOY when he clearly is not going to win and never will. It's wasted breath.

Sequ forgot what thread he was in... :lol

[Kori Ellis]

What are the playoff rules on rosters. 12 players set at the beginning, no changes, as before....
or
new Inactive rules?

I forget.

I think it's the new inactive rules (which would be awesome) but I've never seen it in writing.

[SequSpur]

What are the playoff rules on rosters. 12 players set at the beginning, no changes, as before....
or
new Inactive rules?

I forget.

Hey Topic Changer..... We're talking about Marks contrabandutions to the Spurs............

GTFO.

[Kori Ellis]

Hey Topic Changer..... We're talking about Marks contrabandutions to the Spurs............

GTFO.

So is he. He's bringing it up to see if we'll be able to keep Marks on the active roster for the playoffs.

[Solid D]

Thanks. Some day we'll figure it out, I guess.

[Solid D]

Hey Topic Changer..... We're talking about Marks contrabandutions to the Spurs............

GTFO.


So is he. He's bringing it up to see if we'll be able to keep Marks on the active roster for the playoffs.

Sequ, I'm skating to where the puck is going, not where it is now.

I'll just get back to my volleyball game now, until you catch up.

[SequSpur]

Thanks. Some day we'll figure it out, I guess.

Well Pop is going to have figure it out....... Start Nazr, Rasho to the IR and Beno to the Nacho stand, but you know Beno has been okay lately...

I wish somebody would show him some Kerr tapes so he would quit running around like a kid with ADD.

[MannyIsGod]

Horry is not a much better defender than Marks. Horry gets torched by players all the damn time.

And Marks is a better rebounder by far. Extrapolation means shit considering how little meaningful playing time Marks has gotten.

[Kori Ellis]

Horry is not a much better defender than Marks. Horry gets torched by players all the damn time.

And Marks is a better rebounder by far. Extrapolation means shit considering how little meaningful playing time Marks has gotten.

I normally agree with you about basketball stuff. But you are really offbase on the Horry/Marks defense. I'm not sure if you are overrating Marks or underrating Horry. But it's not close at all.

And you can only extrapolate because that's all you can do. Marks brings energy in short spurts and can rebound in those spurts. Who knows if he can actually put up numbers consistently if he played 20 mpg.

[MannyIsGod]

Well, I'm probably overrating a Marks a bit because I've always loved the way he plays, but I've always hated how Horry plays defense too.

In any case, I would like to see Marks get more minutes.

[ploto]

Thanks. Some day we'll figure it out, I guess.

I'm not so sure. I can only find these terms defined as applicable to the regular season and I've looked through the CBA for anything about playoff rosters and still can't find it??

“Inactive List” means the list of players, maintained by the NBA, who have signed Player Contracts with a Team and are otherwise ineligible to participate in a Regular Season game.

Inactive Roster Size.
Each Team agrees to have one (1) player on its Inactive List for all Regular Season games...

http://www.nbpa.com/cba_articles.php

[T Park]

I'm not sure if you are overrating Marks or underrating Horry

Both.

Hes forgetting how damn good a defender Horry is in the playoffs and what not.

[Kori Ellis]

In any case, I would like to see Marks get more minutes.

Me too. I think he should eat into Nazr's minutes, except certain matchups that we need Nazr.

[grjr]

So is he. He's bringing it up to see if we'll be able to keep Marks on the active roster for the playoffs.

I just finished looking through the CBA and it doesn't mention any change to the playoff roster. I found this link to Yahoo where they show the palyoff roster being set on April 20th so it looks like it's the same as before.

Playoff schedule (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=calendar&prov=st&type=lgns)

[ChumpDumper]

Well as soon as we give him any regular minutes he'll get injured.

Too bad, really.

[Kori Ellis]

Well as soon as we give him any regular minutes he'll get injured.

Too bad, really.

I thought about that too. He's pretty fragile. When he got hit in the nuts tonight, I thought he had got injured at first. :lol

[SequSpur]

I thought about that too. He's pretty fragile. When he got hit in the nuts tonight, I thought he had got injured at first. :lol

Hey, last time I checked, Nuts were pretty tender.

[midgetonadonkey]

If he keeps playing like this, the number 40 will be in the rafters. :lol

[spurs=bling]

If he keeps playing like this, the number 40 will be in the rafters. :lol
:lol

that is just wrong, at this point i don't care how they play just that they win.

[aaronstampler]

Sequ, I'm skating to where the puck is going, not where it is now.

I'll just get back to my volleyball game now, until you catch up.


This sounds like a quote Wayne Gretzky's father gave him when he was really young. The hockey thing, not the volleyball one.

[aaronstampler]

People need to relax about Marks. First of all, he's not taking Rasho's or Nazr's minutes. He's a 4, not a 5. Secondly, he's not gonna get any serious minutes (unless injuries demand it) in the last month of the season and playoffs. He just won't. You don't play D, you can't play for Pop, it's that simple.

However, Orberto hasn't really done a whole lot either. He can't seem to be able to guard anybody, and the refs view him as a foul magnet whenever he's in there. Oh, and also, he can't shoot.

So I would look to promote Marks to our vaunted "5th big" / 11th man spot, occupied previously by Massenburg, and Ferry before him.


And Beno could still steal NVE's job by playing well during his absence. Injury or no injury, NVE really hasn't proven he deserves any PT, but then again, Barry was mostly terrible last year and came through in the playoffs...

[SequSpur]

And Beno could still steal NVE's job by playing well during his absence. Injury or no injury, NVE really hasn't proven he deserves any PT, but then again, Barry was mostly terrible last year and came through in the playoffs...

NVE has proved himself long before he put on black and silver...

This isn't college...

Beno played well last year in spurts and then forgot how to dribble the ball past midcourt.

NVE will be a key player in big games, ie: playoffs.

[ChumpDumper]

As soon as Beno saw a trap developing tonight, he lost his handle then turned it over when the trap actually hit.

He can spot up but for Pete's sake let someone else bring up the ball.

[leemajors]

People need to relax about Marks. First of all, he's not taking Rasho's or Nazr's minutes. He's a 4, not a 5. Secondly, he's not gonna get any serious minutes (unless injuries demand it) in the last month of the season and playoffs. He just won't. You don't play D, you can't play for Pop, it's that simple.

However, Orberto hasn't really done a whole lot either. He can't seem to be able to guard anybody, and the refs view him as a foul magnet whenever he's in there. Oh, and also, he can't shoot.

So I would look to promote Marks to our vaunted "5th big" / 11th man spot, occupied previously by Massenburg, and Ferry before him.


And Beno could still steal NVE's job by playing well during his absence. Injury or no injury, NVE really hasn't proven he deserves any PT, but then again, Barry was mostly terrible last year and came through in the playoffs...


oberto was playing much better when horry first got hurt. i think it was directly related to more minutes. he is a great passer and screener, and was really going after boards and tipping out balls in the air for offensive rebounds. then he sprained his ankle. he was getting better on defense, he just needs pt to get used to the nba game.

[Das Texan]

I need to get me a Marks jersey.

[T Park]

NVE has proved himself long before he put on black and silver...

This isn't college...

Beno played well last year in spurts and then forgot how to dribble the ball past midcourt.

NVE will be a key player in big games, ie: playoffs

damn,

me and Sequ agree 1000%


akward.


As soon as Beno saw a trap developing tonight, he lost his handle then turned it over when the trap actually hit.


according to Jeff Vexler and the rest of the Beno homers, all he needs is more playing time and the problem is solved.

[T Park]

BTW,

people are quickly forgetting how GREAT Oberto was playing before he got hurt.

Dude was playing like advertised.


Ill withold judgement, but I like what Marks has brought.

There is only so many minutes though, and honestly, Id feel more comfortable with Nazr in there, just cause he seems to rebound better.

[CharlieMac]

Man, I should have started him this week. I think Marks is a great player from what I've seen.

[NZHayden]

yeah more minutes for marks!

[xcoriate]

:lmao Thats all you got to say?

He outplayed Bogut today :D

[NZHayden]

:lmao Thats all you got to say?

He outplayed Bogut today :D
yeah i saw the bucks play untill i had to go to work.
everyone else has said all i've wanted to say. ohh i have another thing to say. manny, sequ, kori, timvp and t park. you my boy

[Solid D]

This sounds like a quote Wayne Gretzky's father gave him when he was really young.

Yes, good call.