Why are we so focused on trying to stay ahead of the Mavs?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

We need to focus on the Pistons.

We can beat the Mavs in a 7-game series, whether they have home-court advantage or not. But (as last year proved) home-court could very well decide the series in a Spurs/Pistons final.

[SequSpur]

http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/1-14-05/yourthread.jpg

[Please_dont_ban_me]

http://www.picpop.com/gallery/albums/userpics/1-14-05/yourthread.jpg

Cute.

I wonder how long you sat with one hand down your pants and the other on the mouse, waiting for a chance to post that pic. You climax yet? G'luck.

[Rummpd]

You always want the easiest path period, 1 seed in West could end up with overall top seed as well - got to somehow pick up three full games on the still formidable Pistons but it can be done if Pistons lose some!

[FreshPrince22]

The Mavs matter because it's the difference between playing a good team like the Clippers in the first round or a mediocre team like the Lakers/Hornets.

[Obstructed_View]

We need to focus on the Pistons.

We can beat the Mavs in a 7-game series, whether they have home-court advantage or not. But (as last year proved) home-court could very well decide the series in a Spurs/Pistons final.
I don't understand this. Do you want them to try to win games in order to catch the Pistons but you don't want them to try to win games in order to win the division? What's the difference? Besides, who on the Spurs is focused on the Mavs? The only reason they are even mentioned is because of all the Mavs fans on here. They will go away once the Mavs lose a couple of games. What the fans do and what the team does are completely different.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

The Mavs matter because it's the difference between playing a good team like the Clippers in the first round or a mediocre team like the Lakers/Hornets.

That's true.

We definately should try to have a better record than the Mavs. But our priority should be to have a better record than the pistons. Playing a crappy, or less crappy, team in the first round shouldn't be what we're looking at. Just a thought.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I don't understand this. Do you want them to try to win games in order to catch the Pistons but you don't want them to try to win games in order to win the division? What's the difference? Besides, who on the Spurs is focused on the Mavs? The only reason they are even mentioned is because of all the Mavs fans on here. They will go away once the Mavs lose a couple of games. What the fans do and what the team does are completely different.

:elephant

[Dre_7]

That's true.

We definately should try to have a better record than the Mavs. But our priority should be to have a better record than the pistons. Playing a crappy, or less crappy, team in the first round shouldn't be what we're looking at. Just a thought.

"Our" priority should be to win games. Thats it. If DET and DAL lose, bonus. But all SA needs to do is concentrate on winning, and not worry about what other teams are doin.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

"Our" priority should be to win games. Thats it. If DET and DAL lose, bonus. But all SA needs to do is concentrate on winning, and worry about what other teams are doin.

In an ideal world, sure.

This isn't Utopia, though. People do look at the standings. They do use things like that for motivation, and they do set goals to finish ahead of certain teams and put extra emphasis on certain games.

[sa_butta]

That's true.

We definately should try to have a better record than the Mavs. But our priority should be to have a better record than the pistons. Playing a crappy, or less crappy, team in the first round shouldn't be what we're looking at. Just a thought.I would think our priority is to win as many games as possible and not worry about chasing anyone. We cannot control the wins and loses for Detroit or Dallas unless we are playing them. But I would be more concerned with Dallas to begin with because they are in our conference and we want the 1 seed.

[milkyway21]

one word: Mouse?


note:
look how he taunted and bombarded us with silly posts after they had beaten us last yr :lol

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I would think our priority is to win as many games as possible and not worry about chasing anyone. We cannot control the wins and loses for Detroit or Dallas unless we are playing them. But I would be more concerned with Dallas to begin with because they are in our conference and we want the 1 seed.

You think Dallas can beat us? Even in Dallas?

Hell, we could play all 7 games in Dallas, and we'd probably still win like 4-2. The team I"m worried about is the Pistons. Billups feels the need to make TP his bitch, and Sheed gives a healthy Timmy fits...it's going to be brutal with a hurt Tim.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

one word: Mouse?


note:
look how he taunted and bombarded us with silly posts after they had beaten us last yr :lol

Had beaten us?

We won the finals. You guys give Mouse too much credit. Overrated, I say.

[sa_butta]

You think Dallas can beat us? Even in Dallas?

Hell, we could play all 7 games in Dallas, and we'd probably still win like 4-2. The team I"m worried about is the Pistons. Billups feels the need to make TP his bitch, and Sheed gives a healthy Timmy fits...it's going to be brutal with a hurt Tim.But lets focus on one thing at a time WCF comes first and we are not even there yet either. I think we worry about the Pistons if and when we meet them in the finals. You are jumping the gun.

[exstatic]

You think Dallas can beat us? Even in Dallas?

Hell, we could play all 7 games in Dallas, and we'd probably still win like 4-2. The team I"m worried about is the Pistons. Billups feels the need to make TP his bitch, and Sheed gives a healthy Timmy fits...it's going to be brutal with a hurt Tim.
Tim wasn't healthy last year, either, and Tony is a much better player this year...

[Please_dont_ban_me]

But lets focus on one thing at a time WCF comes first and we are not even there yet either. I think we worry about the Pistons if and when we meet them in the finals. You are jumping the gun.

Jumping the gun?

Just assuming the same thing happens this year as last. Seeing as there haven't been any significant changes in the top 4 teams. I can only look at what is expected, no?




Looking at what is expect, we have to look at our biggest challenge. Not our earliest. We can beat any team in the league without home court advantage. Except, maybe the Pistons.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Tim wasn't healthy last year, either, and Tony is a much better player this year...

That is true.

We didn't exactly win convincingly, though. Plus, TP hasn't really shown me much head-to-head with Billups still.

[sa_butta]

Jumping the gun?

Just assuming the same thing happens this year as last. Seeing as there haven't been any significant changes in the top 4 teams. I can only look at what is expected, no?




Looking at what is expect, we have to look at our biggest challenge. Not our earliest. We can beat any team in the league without home court advantage. Except, maybe the Pistons.Our biggest challenge may be the Pistons but why worry about the chase? as stated before we cannot control their wins and loses we just need to win as many as possible. And If and when we face them in the Finals we should be able to beat them on either court if we are true champions. What do you think we should differently to improve our chances? Not much you can do other than keep winning.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Our biggest challenge may be the Pistons but why worry about the chase? as stated before we cannot control their wins and loses we just need to win as many as possible. And If and when we face them in the Finals we should be able to beat them on either court if we are true champions. What do you think we should differently to improve our chances? Not much you can do other than keep winning.

That's suc a cliche.

It bugs me when people say stuff like that. You're right, there's not much we can do. But if you listen to the news, other posters...and fans in general, you get the feeling it's a Mavs/Spurs race for the 1 seed in the West.



My point is, people who think like that, should not put the Mavs in the same class as the Spurs. Rather, it should be the Pistons. I'm not trying to change the Spurs approach, I'm simply stating people who think that way are wrong and misguided.

[milkyway21]

Had beaten us?

We won the finals. You guys give Mouse too much credit. Overrated, I say.i was referring to just one game when i think Duncan wasn't even playing. the one when Dallas had a 30+ advantage?

look how happy they were. Mouse thought like Dallas is already the 2006 Champs.

[Marklar MM]

Tim wasn't healthy last year, either, and Tony is a much better player this year...

New year, new look for both the Spurs and Pistons. Pistons have a couple guys on the bench who can score now, instead of only McDyess. Hell...Detroit can legitimately go 8-9 deep this year, instead of 7 like last year, when we left scrubs like Darvin Ham and Ronald Dupree on the active roster over Carlos Delfino. Brown rushed Delfino back, Delfino proved he should be on the playoff roster, and Brown rewarded him with a pat on the back, along with a your not going to be in the playoff high five. Main reason Delfino felt like going back to Europe(and the fact he wasn't told by management until after the media, or something like that). Spurs have gotten the same in Finley, and Van Exel will someday get his scoring back(:)). Should be a good series if both teams make it.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

i was referring to just one game when i think Duncan wasn't even playing. the one when Dallas had a 30+ advantage?

look how happy they were. Mouse thought like Dallas is already the 2006 Champs.

Mouse is a joke.

What do you do with jokes, laugh at them...move on. They get less and less funny, and eventually people stop telling them.

[milkyway21]

Mouse is a joke.

What do you do with jokes, laugh at them...move on. They get less and less funny, and eventually people stop telling them.
okay if you say so:rolleyes

actually i was just trying to be funny when I said : mouse.

of course edge over the Mavs is :HCA.

I'm OUT.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

i think getting hca over detroit is out of the question at this point since there's only 18 games or so left and i highly doubt we can make up THREE (if you include the fact that we don't own the tie breaker) on detroit considering that even though they're slumping, we aren't playin too hot either

[mavsfan1000]

You think Dallas can beat us? Even in Dallas?

Hell, we could play all 7 games in Dallas, and we'd probably still win like 4-2. The team I"m worried about is the Pistons. Billups feels the need to make TP his bitch, and Sheed gives a healthy Timmy fits...it's going to be brutal with a hurt Tim.
You're either an idiot or a big time homer. Unless the mavs are unhealthy, they have the potential to knock off the spurs. Whether that happens or not is the unknown. No other team in the west has a chance. The mavs are right there with the pistons and spurs. They just need to get Howard and Harris back and hopefully be a factor when the playoffs start.

[leemajors]

what the spurs or any nba team is concerned with and what their fans are concerned with are usually totally different things.

[Despot]

We will find out soon, ever notice how teams either speed up or slow down after they get to 50 wins? Well, Spurs, Mavs, and Pissons are all at 50 wins with 18, 18, and 20 to go.

[Despot]

You're either an idiot or a big time homer.

and you are not?

http://users.bigpond.net.au/simpsons/mirror.jpg

[Please_dont_ban_me]

You're either an idiot or a big time homer. Unless the mavs are unhealthy, they have the potential to knock off the spurs. Whether that happens or not is the unknown. No other team in the west has a chance. The mavs are right there with the pistons and spurs. They just need to get Howard and Harris back and hopefully be a factor when the playoffs start.

They are "right there".

And they will end up "right where they always do" after they lose in the playoffs. Home watching the finals on TV. That's got to suck.









You act like Dallas has some longstanding tradition of excellence.

When was the last time they won anything? k, come back when they do.

[milkyway21]

You're either an idiot or a big time homer. Unless the mavs are unhealthy, they have the potential to knock off the spurs. Whether that happens or not is the unknown. No other team in the west has a chance. The mavs are right there with the pistons and spurs. They just need to get Howard and Harris back and hopefully be a factor when the playoffs start.


ok, let's be realistic here, with Amare probably out for the rest of the season and Nash has a recurring injury(ankle?), Dallas is team i consider as a threat to Spurs.
But if you win #1 spot in the West and if by any chance you face the Lakers in the 1st round, do you believe you had the best chance of continuing your quest for that title?

I am talking about positioning here.

The Spurs esp. Pops didn't care much about seedings right now(same as last yr, Suns was #1). And the Lakers most teams would definitely want to avoid come playoff time bec of PhilJackson & Kobe. And you lost 2 already to them. You'd win #1, your reward is the Lakers.

HCA is good but I think Pops is considering a seedling which gives the Spurs least headache come playoff time. Of course I didn't say we can't win over the Lakers in the playoffs but based on their playoff experience & Kobe, I'd rather have the Hornets or Denver.

[mavsfan1000]

What the hell does the past have to do with this season? Dallas is so much better with their continuous improvement of their young players. Duncan with PF so I don't see it as impossible to beat San Antonio like you do.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

What the hell does the past have to do with this season? Dallas is so much better with their continuous improvement of their young players. Duncan with PF so I don't see it as impossible to beat San Antonio like you do.

You talk about "the past" like it was ages ago.

It was last year. The teams are similar. The past does matter, here anyways.

[mavsfan1000]

The mavs are much better due to the improvement of Daniels, Harris, Howard, Nowitzki, and the additions of Diop and Finley leaving. :lol

[Please_dont_ban_me]

The mavs are much better due to the improvement of Daniels, Harris, Howard, Nowitzki, and the additions of Diop and Finley leaving. :lol

Wow, and you called me a homer.

[mavsfan1000]

I called you a homer because you are totally discrediting what Dallas has done so far this year like things are exactly the same. If you don't see the statistical improvement of those players than you are blind also.

[milkyway21]

The mavs are much better due to the improvement of Daniels, Harris, Howard, Nowitzki, and the additions of Diop and Finley leaving. :lolyou know i heard this kind of posts from you a 100 times. You don't have to post it over and over again.

If there's one player I think can bring you the title it's Dirk...nobody else. Diop? :nope. Daniels? :nope, Howard? :nope.

But I still think Dirk can't win over a healthy Duncan. My oh my he can't even guard Kirilenko the other day. you won alright but while watching the game i was thinking if I'm a Mavs fan, I'd be embarrassed.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I called you a homer because you are totally discrediting what Dallas has done so far this year like things are exactly the same. If you don't see the statistical improvement of those players than you are blind also.

I said the Spurs would beat the Mavs.

That isn't "discrediting" anything. I also said the Mavs have never won anything. That's just a simple statement of fact. Anything else I said that hurt your feelings?

[mavsfan1000]

Are you some fortune teller? Yes if the spurs played the mavs now with the injuries the spurs would win. But if the mavs are healthy and Duncan continues to have problems with PF the mavs have a 'chance' to win the series. I have no problem with the fact on the past but I disagree that just because it happened before means it will happen theory with the mavs and spurs. Dirk has the most help he has ever had offensively and defensively.

[Kori Ellis]

Weird thread.

If the Spurs are focused on staying ahead of the Mavs or the Pistons or both, all they can do is win their own games. They can't control the other teams' losses. So what does this thread even mean?!?!

You want them to concentrate harder on the Pistons?! What will that do? If they concentrate really hard will the Pistons start losing?

[Despot]

I called you a homer because you are totally discrediting what Dallas has done so far this year like things are exactly the same.

2000-2001 Mavs = 53-29 5th best record in the L - Lost to SA in Semis
2001-2002 Mavs = 57-25 4th best record in the L - Lost to SAc in Semis
2002-2003 Mavs = 60-22 2nd best record in the L - Lost to SA in WCF
2003-2004 Mavs = 52-30 7th best record in the L - Lost to SAc in 1st Round
2004-2005 Mavs = 58-24 4th best record in the L - Lost to PHX in Semis
2005-2006 Mavs = 50-14 so far 3rd best record in the L


Looks about the same to me. All is as it should be.

[mavsfan1000]

Look at the pistons experiences before knocking off the lakers in 5 games. I think the mavs have deepest and most talented team in the league. Maybe they lack a low post prescence and aren't as focused on defense as the spurs but this years team is for real.

[Vashner]

I still think it's about who is healthy. Is 1st place important? Yes...

If it important enough to bang up your team and blow your peak? No.

Remember how long our season was last year so other teams besides Det are
more rested. Not to mention some of our players where playing all Summer.

You know I think we are doing just fine right now.

[Despot]

Look at the pistons experiences before knocking off the lakers in 5 games.

Yeah your right, they had already won two 'ships. Very good analogy.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Weird thread.

If the Spurs are focused on staying ahead of the Mavs or the Pistons or both, all they can do is win their own games. They can't control the other teams' losses. So what does this thread even mean?!?!

You want them to concentrate harder on the Pistons?! What will that do? If they concentrate really hard will the Pistons start losing?

Why do we discuss anything on this site?

Nothing we say here will have any affect on anything. I made this thread for people who already are scoreboard watching to see how the Mavs did that day. My point is simply, stop keeping an eye on the Mavs. The team that really matters is the Pistons.



There is nothing "weird" about that.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Yeah your right, they had already won two 'ships. Very good analogy.

Heheh

[mavsfan1000]

Yeah your right, they had already won two 'ships. Very good analogy.
:lol like the late 80's has anything to do with them winning their last championship. I was talking about 99-03 and the spurs 94-98. The spurs used to be a regular season team. :lol

[Kori Ellis]

Why do we discuss anything on this site?

Nothing we say here will have any affect on anything. I made this thread for people who already are scoreboard watching to see how the Mavs did that day. My point is simply, stop keeping an eye on the Mavs. The team that really matters is the Pistons.



There is nothing "weird" about that.

:rolleyes

The point is that the Spurs just need to win as many games as they can. That's all they can control. How did you conclude everyone is concentrating on the Mavs and not on the Pistons? Every day here people are talking about how they need to catch (and pass) the Pistons because they blew the 2 games against them.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

:rolleyes

The point is that the Spurs just need to win as many games as they can. That's all they can control. How did you conclude everyone is concentrating on the Mavs and not on the Pistons? Every day here people are talking about how they need to catch (and pass) the Pistons because they blew the 2 games against them.

You're right.

I'm wrong.




It's sad a f'ing screen name has put a target on my back.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

:lol like the late 80's has anything to do with them winning their last championship. I was talking about 99-03 and the spurs 94-98. The spurs used to be a regular season team. :lol

Wait, so the past matters now?

[Kori Ellis]

You're right.

I'm wrong.




It's sad a f'ing screen name has put a target on my back.

It's not your screen name. I can change your screen name right now and your posts will still be horrible.

[mavsfan1000]

Dude you are really irritating to listen to. Just take it for it's worth instead of getting all pissed off about it.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

It's not your screen name. I can change your screen name right now and your posts will still be horrible.

Really?

What's so horrible about my posts. I think I have some decent sports knowledge, and I try to keep my random thoughts to the "club" section. What exactly is so horrible? The fact I kid from time to tim about e-sex? The fact I'm a 'fucking arab'?



I honestly don't see it. I've tried to go out of my way to contribute something, but it seems I'm just annoying. Sorry, I'm not Mouse. I don't get hard off people hating me.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Dude you are really irritating to listen to. Just take it for it's worth instead of getting all pissed off about it.

Listening to you being a hypocrite is more annoying.

[mavsfan1000]

You get really defensive, you start too many threads, and of course your screen name. A good advice is try to fit in here first. You are not funny like Mouse either.

[ChumpDumper]

Really?

What's so horrible about my posts. I think I have some decent sports knowledge, and I try to keep my random thoughts to the "club" section. What exactly is so horrible? The fact I kid from time to tim about e-sex? The fact I'm a 'fucking arab'?



I honestly don't see it. I've tried to go out of my way to contribute something, but it seems I'm just annoying. Sorry, I'm not Mouse. I don't get hard off people hating me.You know what? I really miss cowboy_me_kr.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

You get really defensive, you start too many threads, and of course your screen name. A good advice is try to fit in here first. You are not funny like Mouse either.

How many threads have I started today?


If you find Mouse funny, than I guess there's no point in me replying to your posts anymore.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

You know what? I really miss cowboy_me_kr.


...the fuck?

Thanks for sharing.

[Kori Ellis]

Okay, get off the subject of yourself.

I still don't understand the point of saying we should concentrate on the Pistons not the Mavs. Isn't all the Spurs can do is just win as many games as they can? Are you upset that posters are concerned about the Mavs? It's logical to be concerned about both teams, right? They have to beat the Mavs before they even get to the Pistons.

[Despot]

:lol like the late 80's has anything to do with them winning their last championship. I was talking about 99-03 and the spurs 94-98. The spurs used to be a regular season team. :lol


There are alot of similarities between the late 80's Pissons and the current ones, not to mention the fact that a member of those 80's teams tried to assemble the current one in the image of his former team.

Do you like getting slapped around? Or do you think you actually prove points here?

Actually, I respect you.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Okay, get off the subject of yourself.

I still don't understand the point of saying we should concentrate on the Pistons not the Mavs. Isn't all the Spurs can do is just win as many games as they can? Are you upset that posters are concerned about the Mavs? It's logical to be concerned about both teams, right? They have to beat the Mavs before they even get to the Pistons.

It's "logical" to be concerned about the biggest threat.



I'm not into talking about myself, but when people keep taking shots for no reason...I don't think it's too much to ask for an explanation. In the 7 days since I've joined, I've made 18 threads. That's a little over 2 a day. That's too much? I've maded topics on Sports, College, along with some random ones (in the 'club' section where by description they belong). What's so "annoying" about that? K, I'm done now.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Btw, it really bothers me you guys accept calling people "fag" and "fucking arab".

But when it comes to a borderline thread, you're quick to lock it.

[Kori Ellis]

Btw, it really bothers me you guys accept calling people "fag" and "fucking arab".

But when it comes to a borderline thread, you're quick to lock it.

I don't accept it. The guy has been warned. We take care of these things outside the forum.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I don't accept it. The guy has been warned. We take care of these things outside the forum.

Thank you. (not sarcasm)

[Please_dont_ban_me]

There are alot of similarities between the late 80's Pissons and the current ones, not to mention the fact that a member of those 80's teams tried to assemble the current one in the image of his former team.

Do you like getting slapped around? Or do you think you actually prove points here?

Actually, I respect you.

Respect, like...R. Kelly respects the girl he just peed on?

[mavsfan1000]

I have nothing against you being here but not crediting the mavs as a threat to the spurs sounds like hate comments to me since they have been playing much better than the pistons lately and the pistons have been healthy all year. To me the spurs are better than the pistons and the mavs but the mavs are just as capable of knocking them off as the pistons.

[Despot]

I have nothing against you being here but not crediting the mavs as a threat to the spurs sounds like hate comments to me since they have been playing much better than the pistons lately and the pistons have been healthy all year. To me the spurs are better than the pistons and the mavs but the mavs are just as capable of knocking them off as the pistons.


You're right.

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[Please_dont_ban_me]

I have nothing against you being here but not crediting the mavs as a threat to the spurs sounds like hate comments to me since they have been playing much better than the pistons lately and the pistons have been healthy all year. To me the spurs are better than the pistons and the mavs but the mavs are just as capable of knocking them off as the pistons.

Pistins won a ring.
Pistons took us to a game 7 in the finals.
Pistons have a storied tradition of excellence.



What do the Mavs have?

Mavs have the same team as last year (except diop, minus finley).
Mavs have a coach with limited experiene.
Mavs have a team LEARNING to play defense.
Mahvs have a team that has never won anything.











I don't think I'm being a homer. I'm just stating common knowledge.

I'm not saying the Mavs aren't a thread, I'm saying the Spurs would beat them in a 7-game series. Don't confuse the two. It would be 4-2 or something competitive. But I don't see the Mavs beating the spurs 4 times.

[Tanya]

You guys sound like there will be a cake walk for the pistons in the EC. A healthy Indiana will be a great charllenge. And PHX without Amare is not much more dangerous than the healthy MIA.
Both the spurs and pistons fans shouldn't get too overconfident.

[mavsfan1000]

Well I disagree with your logic as if the series was already decided. The mavs when on their game can beat anybody. They blew out both the pistons and spurs this year. With Harris and Howard healthy they can beat the spurs if they play their game that they are capable of. I think especially Harris will be a tough cover for San Antonio and Ginobili had problems with Howard before as well.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Well I disagree with your logic as if the series was already decided. The mavs when on their game can beat anybody. They blew out both the pistons and spurs this year. With Harris and Howard healthy they can beat the spurs if they play their game that they are capable of. I think especially Harris will be a tough cover for San Antonio and Ginobili had problems with Howard before as well.

"When on there game" anybody can beat anybody.

That's why the playoffs are a 'series'. Not one game. The Hawks beat the spurs. Doesn't men they will beat us in a 7 game series.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

You guys sound like there will be a cake walk for the pistons in the EC. A healthy Indiana will be a great charllenge. And PHX without Amare is not much more dangerous than the healthy MIA.
Both the spurs and pistons fans shouldn't get too overconfident.

Not confidence.

Just saying 'if things go as planned'. Nothing wrong with that.

[mavsfan1000]

The mavs can get on a hot streak. Not always the best team wins in the playoffs. It was proven when the 8th seed nuggets beat the 1 seed Sonics. Also the spurs and mavs have identical records so there is no proof this year that the spurs are clearly better than the mavs. There are only 2 teams that can upset the spurs and Miami and Phoenix as a long shot.

[milkyway21]

With Harris and Howard healthy they can beat the spurs if they play their game that they are capable of. I think especially Harris will be a tough cover for San Antonio and Ginobili had problems with Howard before as well.there you go again ...

[Please_dont_ban_me]

The mavs can get on a hot streak. Not always the best team wins in the playoffs. It was proven when the 8th seed nuggets beat the 1 seed Sonics. Also the spurs and mavs have identical records so there is no proof this year that the spurs are clearly better than the mavs. There are only 2 teams that can upset the spurs and Miami and Phoenix as a long shot.

So you've gone from saying they Mavs have a decent shot of beating the spurs, to comparing them to the Nuggests? You know why the Nuggets winning as a 8 seed was such a big deal? Because it hardly ever happens. Ever.


Phoenix is not beating the Spurs. I'll be my penis on that.

[milkyway21]

WC Overall standing(current):

1. San Antonio - LA Lakers

2. Phoenix - Sacramento

Note:
Sacramento: so the Artest trade was worth it, huh!
Suns : no Amare but will have an easier route to WC finals.

3. Denver - Memphis

4. Dallas - LA Clippers
---------------------------
runner-up
9. New Orleans

[Tigole Bitties]

Don't forget, HCA in the Finals isn't really and "advantage" with the 2-3-2 format

[Despot]

The mavs can get on a hot streak. Not always the best team wins in the playoffs.

Yes they do, the better team always wins a 7 game series.



It was proven when the 8th seed nuggets beat the 1 seed Sonics.

You are really grasping at straws now, and the first round is a 7 game series now.


Also the spurs and mavs have identical records so there is no proof this year that the spurs are clearly better than the mavs.

Thats what the playoffs are for.


There are only 2 teams that can upset the spurs and Miami and Phoenix as a long shot.

It would not be an upset if the Pissons beat us. And I really don't think the Nuggets and the Clippers can upset us as you suggest.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Don't forget, HCA in the Finals isn't really and "advantage" with the 2-3-2 format

Most series go 6 or 7 games.

How is it not an advantage to have those last 2 at home?

[mavsfan1000]

Alright but I proved that upsets have happened and that was biggest upset of all time. The spurs almost got beat by an inferior pistons team last year. I don't think the pistons should've done as well as they did and I feel this years mavs is better than last years pistons. Therefore I don't think it is a stretch to say the mavs can beat the spurs in a best of 7. The rockets also have no business in stretching the mavs to 7 but incredible performances from Mcgrady along with the rockets outside shooters made it a series. The mavs will have to win the first game of the series to beat the spurs and take an early lead in the series to put the pressure on the spurs. The lakers found that answer even without taking an early lead. That team looked like there was no way they would beat the spurs but it happened.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Alright but I proved that upsets have happened and that was biggest upset of all time. The spurs almost got beat by an inferior pistons team last year. I don't think the pistons should've done as well as they did and I feel this years mavs is better than last years pistons. Therefore I don't think it is a stretch to say the mavs can beat the spurs in a best of 7. The rockets also have no business in stretching the mavs to 7 but incredible performances from Mcgrady along with the rockets outside shooters made it a series. The mavs will have to win the first game of the series to beat the spurs and take an early lead in the series to put the pressure on the spurs. The lakers found that answer even without taking an early lead. That team looked like there was no way they would beat the spurs but it happened.

Tell you what.

Mavs beat the Spurs and I will quit the boards. Can you say the same for the Spurs winning?

[mavsfan1000]

No. I agree with you that spurs are the favorites but I wouldn't be surprised if the mavs won.

[milkyway21]

Alright but I proved that upsets have happened and that was biggest upset of all time. The spurs almost got beat by an inferior pistons team last year. I don't think the pistons should've done as well as they did and I feel this years mavs is better than last years pistons. Therefore I don't think it is a stretch to say the mavs can beat the spurs in a best of 7. The rockets also have no business in stretching the mavs to 7 but incredible performances from Mcgrady along with the rockets outside shooters made it a series. The mavs will have to win the first game of the series to beat the spurs and take an early lead in the series to put the pressure on the spurs. The lakers found that answer even without taking an early lead. That team looked like there was no way they would beat the spurs but it happened...what? the Pistons were an inferior team last yr? with Duncan nursing an injury the Pistons were the better team. If Horry didn't shoot that crucial 3 in game 5, we're fucked.

But the Spurs played better in game 7. Duncan woke up too! And we won.

[Despot]

Don't forget, HCA in the Finals isn't really and "advantage" with the 2-3-2 format


I don't buy that, with HCA in that format you get the most important games at home. If you win both your home games, and win 1 out of the middle 3, you are in great shape. Even if you lose one of the first 2, all you have to do is win one of 3 to get it back home. However the pressure is on the home team to win at least one of the first 2 home games.

[T Park]

Mavs beat the Spurs and I will quit the boards

Let me answer this now.

No, this is not me.


Carry on with the Pistons Mavericks dick sizing fest.

[Despot]

..what? the Pistons were an inferior team last yr?

He puts too much stock into regular season records.

[Despot]

Let me answer this now.

No, this is not me.


Carry on with the Pistons Mavericks dick sizing fest.

Is that worthy enough for entrance into your sig?

[mavsfan1000]

He puts too much stock into regular season records.
The pistons barely got by the Pacers and should've lost to the Heat. Shaq and Wade got hurt and that is why the Pistons won. The pistons are better this year though but last year they had no bench.

[T Park]

Is that worthy enough for entrance into your sig?

lol

who are you talking to despot? :lmao

[Despot]

The pistons barely got by the Pacers and should've lost to the Heat. Shaq and Wade got hurt and that is why the Pistons won. The pistons are better this year though but last year they had no bench.

Injuries are not an excuse, the best team always wins a 7 game series. You do that and every champion there has ever been, or will ever be, would have an * next to their name.

The Pissons handled the Pacers easily 4-2. Shaq was hurt, but he scored 24 and 27 in the last 2 games. Wade scored 20 in game 7. The pissons were clutch in game 7, that is why they won.

Let me get this right, a team with an ok bench that has 2 injured players, who combined, missed a total of 1 game, is automatically better than a team that only has 5 starters and has 7 more bench players who basically missed a total of 49 games. Even though they lost, they still should have won?

[Despot]

lol

who are you talking to despot? :lmao

To you. Show em you are not the only one to have momentary lapses in judgement when enraged by anger.

[T Park]

Oh.

I know it.

They know it.

They just love to have someone to club.

Canadians have babyseals,
Spurstalk has me.


Yeah im whining, yeah wah wah wah f off.

[mavsfan1000]

The fact is Shaq was not the same after the injury and Wade was not healthy enough to play game 7 though he played anyways. Wade was obviously hurting and not the same player and the Pistons took advantage. Otherwise I don't see the pistons winning game 7 because they had no answer for Wade games 1-5.

[easjer]

Here's the thing about looking too closely at the past, PDBM.

Prior to 99, the Spurs were in the Mavs situation. We hadn't done shit in the playoffs ever. We were perennial regular season champs who bombed the playoffs. And then one year, we were good enough to win it. Some Spurs fans get a little too cocky over the three championships and forget that EVERYONE is in that boat until they win.

Do I think the Mavs have a chance this year? Eh, a small one. They are improved, but it remains to be seen whether they have (or Dirk has) the mental toughness to hang on for four quarters of each game through a tight series. I personally think they don't, but it's too early to say that. I think the Spurs take the 7 game series, in 5 or 6, depending on injuries, etc (no disrespect to the Mavs intended by that).

Now as for the other, your statement is NOT logical. It's silly to worry about the Pistons, because we are not at the point in the season to do so. The logical approach is to take things as they come - first, ending the regular season with a good record, hopefully one which allows for nice playoff matchups. Two, winning the first round. Three, playing the MAVS (assuming both teams advance). Then, if we win, the conference finals. THEN, we worry about the Pistons - assuming Miami doesn't beat them. IMO, the only reason Miami didn't beat them last year was the injury to Dwayne Wade in game 5. Miami healthy can give the Pistons some trouble.

But jumping ahead to that and worrying about the number of wins, well, it's a fan stance. Not a logical stance, not the stance professional players or coaching staff have. You are welcome to it, but it doesn't make you look any smarter for it.

Also, you are annoying because you didn't take the time to figure out how things work, or what humor is appreciated. You've jumped right in, which is an approach, and you are trying to force people to like you. You are overbearing, overly defensive and stubborn. You pursuse minute points beyond all reason, refuse to acknowledge other's valid opinions, are rude and condescending without having earned the right to be. Like it or not, there is a certain ranking of poster around here, based on longevity, quality of analysis, humor, etc. No, it's not written down, it's observable behavior. No one like the asshole who comes in and places himself too high in the hierarchy without reason.

[SAGambler]

We need to focus on the Pistons.

We can beat the Mavs in a 7-game series, whether they have home-court advantage or not. But (as last year proved) home-court could very well decide the series in a Spurs/Pistons final.

If we don't focus on our own division and win it, we probably aren't going to have HCA against the Pistons anyway.

Actually the Pistons control their own destiny as far as HCA is concerned. All we can do is keep winning and hope they have a bad streak.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Here's the thing about looking too closely at the past, PDBM.

Prior to 99, the Spurs were in the Mavs situation. We hadn't done shit in the playoffs ever. We were perennial regular season champs who bombed the playoffs. And then one year, we were good enough to win it. Some Spurs fans get a little too cocky over the three championships and forget that EVERYONE is in that boat until they win.

Do I think the Mavs have a chance this year? Eh, a small one. They are improved, but it remains to be seen whether they have (or Dirk has) the mental toughness to hang on for four quarters of each game through a tight series. I personally think they don't, but it's too early to say that. I think the Spurs take the 7 game series, in 5 or 6, depending on injuries, etc (no disrespect to the Mavs intended by that).

Now as for the other, your statement is NOT logical. It's silly to worry about the Pistons, because we are not at the point in the season to do so. The logical approach is to take things as they come - first, ending the regular season with a good record, hopefully one which allows for nice playoff matchups. Two, winning the first round. Three, playing the MAVS (assuming both teams advance). Then, if we win, the conference finals. THEN, we worry about the Pistons - assuming Miami doesn't beat them. IMO, the only reason Miami didn't beat them last year was the injury to Dwayne Wade in game 5. Miami healthy can give the Pistons some trouble.

But jumping ahead to that and worrying about the number of wins, well, it's a fan stance. Not a logical stance, not the stance professional players or coaching staff have. You are welcome to it, but it doesn't make you look any smarter for it.

Also, you are annoying because you didn't take the time to figure out how things work, or what humor is appreciated. You've jumped right in, which is an approach, and you are trying to force people to like you. You are overbearing, overly defensive and stubborn. You pursuse minute points beyond all reason, refuse to acknowledge other's valid opinions, are rude and condescending without having earned the right to be. Like it or not, there is a certain ranking of poster around here, based on longevity, quality of analysis, humor, etc. No, it's not written down, it's observable behavior. No one like the asshole who comes in and places himself too high in the hierarchy without reason.

Good point. But keep in mind we didn't just "make it over the hump". We got Duncan, then a year later won it all. Who have the Mavs added who will have that effect?

It is logical. Sometomes one needs to look ahead, with a "if everything goes as plan" type approach. Obviously, we have to MAKE it to the finals. What I'm saying is the Pistons are more of a thread to us than the Mavs.

As for the last point, if you look at peoples response to me since my very first thread...it's not me being the asshole. Yes, I want people to like me. You got me there. But overbearing? Making an average of two threads a day, being online for about an hour or two a day viewing the forums...if that's overbearing, what are some of these other posters? I really don't think I'm annoying, I guess I'm in the minority there.

[easjer]

The Pistons are only a threat if we make it past the Mavs. It will be easier to do that with HCA. HCA with the Pistons is out of our control. We blew our chance. If we keep winning, and they keep losing, maybe we get the better record, but it's out of our hands. The Mavs are in our control, because we still have a game left.

What exactly do you want us to do to be concerned about the Pistons? There isn't anything we can do, other than what we are currently doing - trying to win. If your argument is that we have no need to be concerned about the Mavs, that's a different argument. You are confusing two issues.

As for your other point, it doesn't matter that you don't think you are annoying. The people around you do. It might have something more to do with your responses than your thread. I've been here for almost a year, and you've been here a week and already have a third of my post count. So you are showing up a lot. And you are repeating yourself a lot without paying the courtesy of listening to differing opinions. That is overbearing. I don't pay attention to how long you are online. I just know your post count indicates a lot. Further, you get defensive without cause - I've read your posts, man. You snap at Kori a lot, which doesn't go over well, and there is a general tone of sarcasm in a lot of your posts, whether you intend it or not. You havne't earned the right to be condescending yet.

The reality is people are telling you honestly that you are annoying, despite what you think. Telling us you are not annoying either is childish. People on here think I'm a raging feminist. Now anyone who knows me in real life would collapse to the floor in fits of laughter to hear that, because I am SO NOT feminist. But that's the side of me that people see here - I was the primary breadwinner while my husband cooked and did the laundry (still does), and I kept my last name, and am against taking the Pill for birth control. It is what it is. The only way I can change that opinion of me is to continue to post, watch my tone, watch my language and posting choices, limit myself on certain subjects.

The other thing is that GiG, for instance, is an annoying jack ass, but he doesn't care. If you stopped caring so much, people would stop baiting you. You are an easy target. Back off for awhile and *think* about what you post.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

The Pistons are only a threat if we make it past the Mavs. It will be easier to do that with HCA. HCA with the Pistons is out of our control. We blew our chance. If we keep winning, and they keep losing, maybe we get the better record, but it's out of our hands. The Mavs are in our control, because we still have a game left.

What exactly do you want us to do to be concerned about the Pistons? There isn't anything we can do, other than what we are currently doing - trying to win. If your argument is that we have no need to be concerned about the Mavs, that's a different argument. You are confusing two issues.

As for your other point, it doesn't matter that you don't think you are annoying. The people around you do. It might have something more to do with your responses than your thread. I've been here for almost a year, and you've been here a week and already have a third of my post count. So you are showing up a lot. And you are repeating yourself a lot without paying the courtesy of listening to differing opinions. That is overbearing. I don't pay attention to how long you are online. I just know your post count indicates a lot. Further, you get defensive without cause - I've read your posts, man. You snap at Kori a lot, which doesn't go over well, and there is a general tone of sarcasm in a lot of your posts, whether you intend it or not. You havne't earned the right to be condescending yet.

The reality is people are telling you honestly that you are annoying, despite what you think. Telling us you are not annoying either is childish. People on here think I'm a raging feminist. Now anyone who knows me in real life would collapse to the floor in fits of laughter to hear that, because I am SO NOT feminist. But that's the side of me that people see here - I was the primary breadwinner while my husband cooked and did the laundry (still does), and I kept my last name, and am against taking the Pill for birth control. It is what it is. The only way I can change that opinion of me is to continue to post, watch my tone, watch my language and posting choices, limit myself on certain subjects.

The other thing is that GiG, for instance, is an annoying jack ass, but he doesn't care. If you stopped caring so much, people would stop baiting you. You are an easy target. Back off for awhile and *think* about what you post.

As for just jumping in, it's true. I don't really care to observe how peoploe act, than fit in. I'll be myself, try to contribute something...then let the chips fall where they may. You're right, though...it is easy to get a response out of me. I'll stop caring as much.

But it's not without cause. Most the time I get defensive when somebody calls me out as a "fag", or a "fucking arab" or they repeatedly call me annoying. Mouse, is annoying. I'm just a poster. =(





Btw, I knew a wannabe feminist in high school. Someting about getting pissed when someone offers to open a door for you just rubs me the wrong way. I like to be rubbed, just not the wrong way. Rub me nicely.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

The Pistons are only a threat if we make it past the Mavs. It will be easier to do that with HCA. HCA with the Pistons is out of our control. We blew our chance. If we keep winning, and they keep losing, maybe we get the better record, but it's out of our hands. The Mavs are in our control, because we still have a game left.

What exactly do you want us to do to be concerned about the Pistons? There isn't anything we can do, other than what we are currently doing - trying to win. If your argument is that we have no need to be concerned about the Mavs, that's a different argument. You are confusing two issues.


Forgot to answer the BBall part of your post...

You're right there isn't anything we can do other than try to win. But still people do focus on the Mavs. My point is, if we are going to focus on anything, and prioritize anything, the Pistions is who we should be scoreboard watching for. Not the Mavs.

[easjer]

Most fans watch both. I know I am more concerned about the Mavs than the Pistons right now because the Mavs are the more immediate threat. They stall us, and we are playing a tough 7 game series against the Clips (a team that hurts us on matchups and has a very veteran leader in Sam Cassell). We beat them, we've secured HCA through the first three rounds of playoffs. Can we win without it? Of course, we did last year. Do we want to have it? Yeah. Duh. Also, playing the Lakers or NO/OK? Fuck yeah, I'd rather play the Lakers than the Clippers, and would happily offer up my salary to play No/Ok. That is all irrelevant to a relevant point about actually playing the Mavs in round 2, with or without HCA. The fact is that while I don't think the Mavs are quite there to beat us (assuming our level of play is at least where we are now), they are doing well enough that we can't pencil it down as done and over just yet.

The Pistons are looming there. I check their scores, I listen to what the Pistons fans are saying around here and occasionally tune into a national game. I know where they are at, and I'm hoping where they are at is peaking too soon. But you can't count out the team that's been in the Finals the last two years when they only major personnel change was a coach that was not acting in their best interest.

Most fans are aware of this. Had you been around here longer, you would know that a large number of threads have been devoted to monitoring the progress of these teams and analyzing the matchup.

Most fans believe it's a rematch. But *neither team can be penciled in* at this stage of the game. The Pistons have Miami and Indy, possibly the Nets (thought I think that is a joke) to get around first, and we have the Mavs and the Suns. We're good on the Suns, especially if we win Friday, and especially if Amare doesn't return. So that leaves the Mavs.

But this is all fan based perspective. The Spurs players and coaches are doing what they do, and that is the only thing in their control - win as efficiently as possible and start elevating the game and fine tuning what needs to be fixed. They probably know where things stand with both teams under discussion, but their focus is the game, not the other teams. If the players are obsessed with the other teams, then the other team is in their head screwing with them. The Spurs are more professional than that - at least I hope so.

There are plenty of fans who feel the Mavs are a threat. There is a different feeling about this team this year. It could be a breakout year for them.

If all you are saying is that the Pistons are a tough team to beat and we should check the ESPN crawl to have a sense of the standings, you are right. But the response is that we also need to have an eye on the Mavs.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

^ Not saying ignore the Mavs.

Just saying HCA would be nice in the West playoffs, but we could do without it. I don't know if I can say the same about the Finals vs. Detroit. That's all I'm saying.

[T Park]

hey.

bozo.

you cant have homecourt in the finals.

Without having homecourt in the west.

The Pistons are not gonna have a worst record than the mavericks.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

hey.

bozo.

you cant have homecourt in the finals.

Without having homecourt in the west.

The Pistons are not gonna have a worst record than the mavericks.hey.

bozo.

If that's true, wouldn't focusing on the beating the Pistons record mutually include having a better record than the Mavs, hence HCA in the Conference finals?

[leemajors]

circular logic. you started this thread.

[T Park]

If that's true, wouldn't focusing on the beating the Pistons record mutually include having a better record than the Mavs, hence HCA in the Conference finals?


I think now your just babbling just to babble and waste bandwidth.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I think now your just babbling just to babble and waste bandwidth.

Focus on what image to put in your sig next. k?

[MoSpur]

Hey Please Don't Ban Me, What Do You Do For A Living. I Am Curious. I'm Not Trying To Be Funny Or Anything Like That. Just Wondering.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Hey Please Don't Ban Me, What Do You Do For A Living. I Am Curious. I'm Not Trying To Be Funny Or Anything Like That. Just Wondering.

Student.

Sell Jordans/Cellphones on ebay. Help my dad do paperwork at his stores, and close the store on Saturdays/Sundays. Cover any shifts if need be.

[Sec24Row7]

http://www.lasraicesranch.com/images/basketball/mavsplayoffs.jpg

[MoSpur]

Student.

Sell Jordans/Cellphones on ebay. Help my dad do paperwork at his stores, and close the store on Saturdays/Sundays. Cover any shifts if need be.

OH. I WAS WONDERING BECAUSE THAT PICTURE YOU GOT REMINDS OF A GUY I USE TO KNOW.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

OH. I WAS WONDERING BECAUSE THAT PICTURE YOU GOT REMINDS OF A GUY I USE TO KNOW.

Ya?

How old is the guy, how did you know him?

[MoSpur]

I have no idea what his age is. I wanna say 25-28 years old. He was a DJ.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I have no idea what his age is. I wanna say 25-28 years old. He was a DJ.

Wrong guy.

Though I do DJ, on my own personal computer...for my own amusement. :D