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Fabbs
03-18-2006, 12:43 PM
The verdict is in.
47-5 with a night or two off.
4-8 on back to backers.

This is no time to continue to dick around, we can pass Dallas and Detroit.
Yes it's Houston without TMac and with Van Gundy. :lol
Still, the stats have spoken, it's overwhelming the Spurs suck on 2nd night of B2Bs.

Do the right thing, Pop. Play the bench, rest Dunkin and GNob.

spurs_fan_in_exile
03-18-2006, 12:47 PM
Yao's streaking, and Rasho usually has good games vs the Rockets. That's the matchup that really matters tonight. The Spurs should be able to put the boots to them early and play the starters light in the second half.

polandprzem
03-18-2006, 12:52 PM
The've got no right to be tired.

DannyT
03-18-2006, 01:17 PM
The've got no right to be tired.
maybe the polish have unlimited suppply of endurance brother but errrrry one gets tired sooner or later hommie. these guys are gettin older and older and do you member back to the pre-season when we went like 1 and 10 or some shit and no one was playin hard cause it didnt matter and they were tryin to save ever bit they could for these situations.....but they are still hurtin man, they cant seem to pull out the second half of the double double but i think things are goin to start turnin around here shortly

T Park
03-18-2006, 01:21 PM
The've got no right to be tired.



When did they become inhuman??

Parker prob will be tired, he played an assload of minutes last night in the second half, as did Ginobili, Duncan, and Mohammed.



47-5 with a night or two off.
4-8 on back to backers.



Something is off there, cause theyve lost 14 games.

boutons_
03-18-2006, 01:29 PM
I thought they were starting a 4 game /5 days stretch but it's B2B, 2 days rest, B2B.

Other top teams do a LOT better than the Spurs with their records on second of B2Bs.

Spurs don't have a body problem with B2B, not an age problem, they have a head problem, last season and this season.

T Park
03-18-2006, 01:47 PM
Yeah, last season really fucked em too.

boutons_
03-18-2006, 01:48 PM
thanks for supporting my point.

T Park
03-18-2006, 01:53 PM
?

Didn't they win the ring last year?

1 series they didn't have the advantage in, they won all 3 road games.


So what is your point :lol

Solid D
03-18-2006, 01:54 PM
This should not be an easy game. The Rockets know how to defend the Spurs. The problem is, the Rockets can't score very well other than through Yao Ming with McGrady out. If Wesley sits out, that really crimps Houston at both ends.

Even at that, it's a Houston home game and the Spurs are playing their 2nd game in two nights, so this could easily be another 80-75 game.

T Park
03-18-2006, 01:56 PM
Win is a win.


Oberto should be able to play some minutes.

If Nesterovic can pull his head out of his ass, and play good D, and somewhat be OK on offense.

boutons_
03-18-2006, 03:08 PM
My point, not that repeating it will allow your fat head to take it on board, is that the 06 Spurs have head problem with second of B2B, not physical, not age.

If the Spurs were just .500 on second of B2B, they'd have a B2B record, like other tops teams, but with a overall record 2 - 4 games better than the 2nd place team.

T Park
03-18-2006, 03:10 PM
I understand that assfuck.

I brought up last year's team had the same problem and it didn't hurt them at all.

SequSpur
03-18-2006, 03:14 PM
Last season was last season...

It's time to recognize the future.

Asswipe.

T Park
03-18-2006, 03:24 PM
What is the future all knowning shitface?

Spurologist
03-18-2006, 03:27 PM
ughgh.

Spurs.

Win.

ughgh.

5ToolMan
03-18-2006, 03:35 PM
The verdict is in.
47-5 with a night or two off.
4-8 on back to backers.

Casey said, "Statistics are the biggest liars" because they will support almost anything you want to believe.

I am not saying the Spurs are good up the B2B's because 4 - 8 is 4 - 8 no matter how you cut it. However rather than focusing on one statistic, we should know not all B2B's are equal.

One team may be on a B2B that is a 4th game in 5 nights on the road, going against a well rested opponent on the enemy's floor. Another team may get a B2B at home after several days of rest and get on opponent who is at the end of a long road trip AND also on a B2B.

Playing on equal rest, I think the Spurs deeper bench will more than make up for a few old legs they may have. That won't make the Spurs travel to Houston for a B2B easy, especially when the Rockets have not played since the 15th. However how bad a team plays in individual B2B's with the regular season quirks of schedule, won't mean jack when all teams are on equal footing in the playoffs.

T Park
03-18-2006, 03:44 PM
no B2B's in the playoffs. Is what Ive said.

smeagol
03-18-2006, 04:02 PM
TMAc is still out?

How many games has he missed this season?

I know, he is a great talent but he is worthless if he can't play.

T Park
03-18-2006, 04:07 PM
The back.

I feel for him.......

Fabbs
03-18-2006, 04:17 PM
However how bad a team plays in individual B2B's with the regular season quirks of schedule, won't mean jack when all teams are on equal footing in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

Yes but it could mean the difference between Home Court Advantage or not.
See Spurs vs Pistons last year. Also could be the difference between #1 and #4 seed.

Am I suggesting the Spurs go all out to get Home Court? No. But they have a deep bench, why not use it. Dunkan, Gnob, and after last night even Parker could use a breather. So why use the Three Headed Monster (Nazr-Rasho-Fabs) and GF Barry/Finley and pgBeno tonight? Keeps the bench sharp, gives the starters a rest. T-E-A-M is what matters. 4-8 is 4-8 no matter how you slice it. I do see the points about when and who they played the B2Bs, but its still a glaring stat and obvious. Esp with Dunkan and GNob.

polandprzem
03-18-2006, 05:31 PM
no B2B's in the playoffs. Is what Ive said.
and regular season doesn't counts :blah

Tell Bobacats that




They shouldn't be tired cause they had a 2 day break between the games. And I though they will eat Phoenix for lunch. They didn't. Also they do not have to think about next game being in 2 days from now cause they are playing at the 21st of March a back to backer also :)

1 moth till the playoffs

T Park
03-18-2006, 05:52 PM
And I though they will eat Phoenix for lunch

Uh, well, they would've but, Duncan missed FTs, and some guys had tough nights shooting, Brent Barry, Ginobili and Parker with turnovers.

Phoenix is good.

They beat a good team.

There is no shame in that game last night, other than the defensive performance.

polandprzem
03-18-2006, 05:59 PM
Uh, well, they would've but, Duncan missed FTs, and some guys had tough nights shooting, Brent Barry, Ginobili and Parker with turnovers.

Phoenix is good.

They beat a good team.

There is no shame in that game last night, other than the defensive performance.

Yup. The defense is what makes a concern.
Duncan is not that great and Nazr still sometimes doesn't know where to be on defense. Horry is not full strenght. manu and TP are playing similar to the last season.
WellSuns are one of the best ofensive and shooting ball clubs. But the defense in th NO game wasn't great also.

The spurs won a board by a big margin but they didn't took full advantage of it.

I'm still waiting for Manu I mean MANU!!! and Robert and hopefully Tims PF won't be bothering him that much at the end of a season...


Ps. I think I'm going to a frickin sleep

T Park
03-18-2006, 06:04 PM
The defense will fix itself.

If theres one thing to NOT be concerned with, its the D.

polandprzem
03-18-2006, 06:08 PM
This is not the same team TPark.
Spurs are playing a little differently with 6th man Mike and S center Nazr.

The defens should be clicking now.

DannyT
03-18-2006, 06:33 PM
wow this has gotten serious hasnt it....?
asswipes, butt heads, and shit faces!!!! ohhhh my
but any who, i just dont know what it is with this team and the second game of a double double do you all think that maybe if its not fatigue that it is due to lack of interest? i mean i really dont know what you all could mean when you say its mental but its gettin closer and closer to bein a gurantee that the back end of a b2b is a lost and that sucks, but what sucks worse is how many we got stuck with on our schedule. i dont know how many times other teams have them or how many we have had in the past and if this is just the normal amount but because we are suckin ass on them this season that is why we are pointing them out so much but it seems like we got a shitty deal on the schedule. but none the less i think the first half of the season was a m ore of a feeling out process of how mike fin and nvx were goin to work out and now we have realized that nick is done and mike is whats up now we or should i say pop is goin to start moldin the gel and the rotation down on the line ups and THE DEE WILL START CLICKIN

5ToolMan
03-18-2006, 07:03 PM
Yes but it could mean the difference between Home Court Advantage or not.
See Spurs vs Pistons last year. Also could be the difference between #1 and #4 seed.

In my view HCA is way over rated. Often because of a combination of a bigger focus on the regular season, health early in the regular season, and quirks in the schedule, teams that are jelling in the playoffs have to play higher seeded teams. And in my view, the spoils most often goes to the better team. Yes if two teams are equally matched, HCA is nice. But it is far from the determining factor in any series.

As good as the Pistons have played, in my view both the Mavs and Spurs records are far more impressive given no major injuries for the Pistons, major injury by the Spurs and Mavs AND the Pistons getting an advantage playing in the Least. As a veteran team with no injuries, the Pistons also feasted on many teams that were working new pieces into the mix and/or were injuried.



Am I suggesting the Spurs go all out to get Home Court? No. But they have a deep bench, why not use it. Dunkan, Gnob, and after last night even Parker could use a breather. So why use the Three Headed Monster (Nazr-Rasho-Fabs) and GF Barry/Finley and pgBeno tonight? Keeps the bench sharp, gives the starters a rest. T-E-A-M is what matters. 4-8 is 4-8 no matter how you slice it. I do see the points about when and who they played the B2Bs, but its still a glaring stat and obvious. Esp with Dunkan and GNob.

I agree with all you said in this segment. I also believe Pop understands this. Rasho and Oberto are well rested and will get an opportunity to lean on Yao. The smalls did play too much, especially Tony. But the Spurs are deep enough with young players on the perimeter that it should not be much of a negative.