PJ BROWN for nazr?

[ducks]

http://www.nola.com/hornets/t-p/ind...77454943530.xml

What will happen with center P.J. Brown?

Brown could be a player, packaged with a draft pick, in a trade. The Hornets love P.J. Brown. Oklahoma City loves P.J. Brown. New Orleans loves P.J. Brown. But Brown, who will make $8 million next season, is in the final year of his contract. And he said he is "50-50" that next season could be his last. And of course, he would like to go out as an NBA champion. The Hornets could deal the 36-year-old for a younger starter, but they would have to find a team that wants a quick fix at center or power forward -- playoff-bound Dallas, Denver, San Antonio and Memphis are possibilities. But Scott would love to keep Brown, and his goal is to cut his minutes from 32 minutes per game to 15 to 20. That would mean they need another post to fill the minutes.



spurs do a sign and trade with nazr
ofcourse nazr has to agree to it
get brown he has one year left on his contract spurs buy another season to help season the youngsters and get jr smith to

[Scobe]

how will they get jr smith?

Don't see this happening. How tall is Brown? I don't think he has Nazr's defensive ability.

[Dre_7]

PJ Brown for one year would be sweet. I like his game.

[RON ARTEST]

no i think they should just simply resign him. hes fairly young and he can score and rebound. something rasho sucks at. the spurs are already a pretty old team. they dont need someone who is 36 or 37 years old who is gonna retire in a year or two anyway. if van exel is gonna retire like he said then i think they should just worry about adressing there backup point guard spot unless beno is ready.

[Leetonidas]

how will they get jr smith?

Don't see this happening. How tall is Brown? I don't think he has Nazr's defensive ability.

:lol

That's not saying much.

[Solid D]

He turned down San Antonio before and Rasho was signed shortly afterward. His wife didn't want to move the family from New Orleans at the time. I wonder if she still feels that way, now.

[timvp]

Rasho and Barry for Brown and Smith.

[/dream]

[ducks]

He turned down San Antonio before and Rasho was signed shortly afterward. His wife didn't want to move the family from New Orleans at the time. I wonder if she still feels that way, now.
it would only be for one year and a chance at a ring

[Bruno]

Rasho and Barry for Brown and Smith.

[/dream]

Rasho and Barry for Brown, Smith and Macijauskas. :elephant

[Sec24Row7]

When does Rasho's contract expire?

[MoSpur]

Rasho. Give him away and get rid of that contract. That would be so awesome. Get rid of Rasho as a player and get of that crazy contract. Sign Nazr to a decent contract and have Brown as a backup.

[timvp]

When does Rasho's contract expire?

Never.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Do you really think that Nazr's asking price this summer will be less than what we're paying Rasho now?

[infinite styles]

Never.

You beat me to it. :lol :lol :depressed

[ploto]

Why would NO/OKC even want to do this? If they want Nazr, they can just sign him. I also can't really see any reason to bring in Brown in the last year of his contract. The reason you do that is to trade away a longer deal. You really want an $8M PJ Brown? No thanks.

[ploto]

Rasho and Barry for Brown, Smith and Macijauskas. :elephant
And explain to me why NO would do this?

[ShoogarBear]

Rasho and Barry for Brown, Smith and Macijauskas. :elephant
[/wet dream]

[ducks]

Why would NO/OKC even want to do this? If they want Nazr, they can just sign him. I also can't really see any reason to bring in Brown in the last year of his contract. The reason you do that is to trade away a longer deal. You really want an $8M PJ Brown? No thanks.

you do that because browns contract expires
he has one year left

[Bruno]

And explain to me why NO would do this?

Scott want to get rid of Smith and Macijauskas (just read at an article posted few days ago about that). Barry has been very good since the trade failed : his trade value is higher than in february. I see no reason for NO not to do again the Barry for Smith/Macijauskas.

The PJ Brown for Rasho swap : if Brown want to be traded to a contender, it's not a bad deal for Hornets. Rasho is a solig defender and Hornets need a big body to play with West. Hornets have 2 first round picks and will likely draft a center like O'Bryant : Rasho can be the starting center until he is ready. Rasho deal isn't that bad for a center (3 years $23.5M) and the advantage towards signing a vet center via FA to a 5 years deal is that Rasho's contract will be finished when Paul and the rookies drafted this year will get an extension.

I reckon that I'm optimistic but it makes some sense for NO and Spurs can add some incentives like picks or draft rights to euros.

[ploto]

you do that because browns contract expires
he has one year left
I'd rather have 3 Euros than 1 PJ Brown!

[Rescueone]

Sounds good to me!!

[genghisrex]

Rasho and Barry for Brown, Smith and Macijauskas. :elephant
Spurs dump their two bad contracts, get a one-year stop gap at the 4/5 until Mahinmi is ready, and finally get that mythical young, athletic wing. Macijauskas is throw in with potential for dividends. Add Scola and maybe picks + cash and hopefully the Hornets bite.

Do it RC.

:worthy:

[exstatic]

how will they get jr smith?

Don't see this happening. How tall is Brown? I don't think he has Nazr's defensive ability.

Brown on D makes Nazr look like a girl. He's a chippy mofo, having played for Riles like our own BB. He's an ending contract and a great stopgap option until Ian is ready. If they want Nazr, they can have him. He's not a fit here. Or, you let him walk, trade Rasho, and bring over one of Ian or Javtokas for spot minutes.

[picnroll]

Macijauskas sucks.

[Vashner]

Houston should give us Yao Ming...

They don't need him since they suck now. We can give him a ring...

[T Park]

Id trade Nazr for PJ Brown so fast, the people of OKC head's would spin....

[A-Train]

If they'd take Rasho, deal. As for Mohammed, you'd get someone back who could start (and who they wanted once upon a time). With the bigman rotation the Spurs have, Brown at 20 to 25 a night makes a lot of sense next season.

If Mohammed leaves SA, hopefully the Spurs get something in return.

[Slinkyman]

how will they get jr smith?

Don't see this happening. How tall is Brown? I don't think he has Nazr's defensive ability.

PJ was one of the best post defenders in the league, i'm not sure how good he still is but i'd bet he's still way better then rasho and nazr.

[A-Train]

If the Hornets would take Barry and Nesterovic for Smith and Brown, the Spurs would have to send them a ring next year.

[kalikot_boy_kr]

shut up! u just disturbing the playoffs baby!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

This isn't PJ Brown in his prime we're talking about, it's PJ one year from retirement.

If they would do a Rasho + Barry for JR, PJ, and Maci I'd do it. Throw in Scola's bullshit buyout while we're at it and get rid of all our problem/potential problem contracts.

[Darkwaters]

And explain to me why NO would do this?

Theres plenty of reason to do this. The Hornets biggest needs right now are at the 2 and the 5. They need a shooter, like Barry, to stretch defenses and they need a shot blocker and good post defender. JR Smith and Arvydas Macijauskas are going to be traded this offseason-period. If the Spurs are interested then they could easilly get them. PJ Brown said that he wants to be traded and would like it to be a contender.

The trade makes perfect sense.

[ChumpDumper]

PJ Brown said that he wants to be tradedLink?

[Darkwaters]

JR Smith and Arvydas expect to be traded. See link.

http://www.nola.com/hornets/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-2/114577603043530.xml

Also, here is the article talking about how PJ would like to be traded to a contender.

By Darnell Mayberry
The Oklahoman

13-year veteran says he wants to win an NBA title


LOS ANGELES - PJ Brown may have played his last game for the Hornets Wednesday, when they ended the season with a 115-95 loss to the Lakers.

Brown, a 13-year NBA veteran, said he's strongly considering retiring after next season. And if next year should be his last, Brown said he wants a chance to win a championship, something the Hornets aren't expected to be competing for any time soon.

"It's been a successful year," said Brown, 36, who has one year left on a contract that pays him $8 million a season. "But going into the last year of my contract not knowing if I'm going to play past next year, I got some things I got to think about as far as my future.

"I just got to think long and hard if I'm going to play my last year with the Hornets."

Brown, the team's captain, is the longest standing Hornet, dating to the 2000-01 season when the team played in Charlotte, N.C. He said he is confident that after six years in which he's missed only 17 games, the franchise would accommodate his request to end his career the way he'd like.

"I've been here six years and it's been a good relationship between myself and the Hornets," Brown said. "I got a lot of great friends and people that I've made good relationships with. I'm just going to do some soul-searching and just see if this is going to be my last go-round with the Hornets? That's something I just don't know and can't answer."

The Hornets finished 38-42 -- a 20-win improvement on the previous season. They hung in playoff contention until Saturday, but a 8-20 mark since the All-Star break revealed the team's rebuilding project is far from complete.

As of late Tuesday night, Hornets general manager Jeff Bower was unaware of Brown's feelings, and he declined to comment specifically until the two parties spoke directly.

But Bower did say the team would likely explore trade opportunities to make the 6-foot-11 forward happy if he voiced his concerns to the Hornets. The team would do so primarily because of Brown's six-year allegiance, coupled with his track record for professionalism, which has established him as one of the league's most respected players.

"But at this point I haven't had any discussions with PJ about his future," Bower said. "We'll have a discussion at the proper time and through the proper channels of communication."

Brown, though, has repeatedly called this season the most difficult of his 13-year career.

A native of Slidell, La., Brown is one of the few Hornets who resided in Louisiana year round. Hurricane Katrina's fury affected him more than anyone else on the team.

For the first time in Brown's career, he was separated from his wife and four children after Katrina uprooted the team to Oklahoma City and his family to a Houston suburb.

In mid-November, Brown's mother-in-law passed away, causing him to miss two games. Because the Hornets lack a true center, Brown, a natural power forward, has also been forced to play out of position at center for the second straight season. For much of the season, he has had to play more minutes than he'd prefer.

"From a mental standpoint, there have been times I haven't been able to focus like I want to because there's been so many things going on off the floor," Brown said.

Brown entered the season finale averaging 8.9 points and 7.3 rebounds, his lowest totals since 2001-02, his second season with the Hornets.

"It's a 50-50 chance that I might not play past next year, and if it is my last year, I want to at least have a chance to go deep into the playoffs," Brown said.

"I'm not in year seven. Year 14 could be my last year. A lot of things go through your mind. You're doing a lot of reflecting. You're thinking about the past, you're thinking about the present and you're thinking about the future.

"When you're a player in my stage of my career, things like that go through your mind. If next year was to be my last year, I just want to make sure next year is the best year I could possibly have."

[ChumpDumper]

So he didn't ask to be traded.

[Darkwaters]

If he was offered a spot on the Spurs roster (even as a deep reserve) do you think he'd turn it down judging by that article?

[ChumpDumper]

It's not up to him.

And he didn't ask.

[Slinkyman]

It's not up to him.

And he didn't ask.

maybe he didn't come out and say, "trade me" but he made it clear he would like to be on a contender which the hornets are not.

[ChumpDumper]

He said he's going to think about it.

Big deal.

If he does want to be traded the Spurs would be one of many teams wanting him.

Not much to get excited about in April.

[Darkwaters]

It's not up to him.

And he didn't ask.

Ok, no he never said, "I WANT TO BE TRADED." But the team is going to explore trade options and if they find a potential spot for him in San Antonio then I'm pretty sure he'd make that comment official. He has expressed concerns though and it is likely that comment is just a matter of time.

He wants a ring. See examples: Michael Finley and Nick Van Exel

[ChumpDumper]

It's just as likely he waits for the draft and the beginning of free agency when the Hornets could pick up a max free agent without dumping Brown.

It's April.

[Darkwaters]

It's just as likely he waits for the draft and the beginning of free agency when the Hornets could pick up a max free agent without dumping Brown.

It's April.

Which free agent?

This years free agent pool is without many good 2 guards that are outside scorers. Some, like Jason Terry, are available but likely won't leave their current situation. Also, theres a fair number of bigmen, but most are 4's (Al Harrington and Drew Gooden). The only viable options at the 5 are really Nazr Mohammed and Nene (who is restricted and has expressed a desire to stay in Denver anyways).

[ChumpDumper]

Which free agent?It doesn't necessarily have to be free agent. I should have been less specific about a max player.

[Darkwaters]

It doesn't necessarily have to be free agent. I should have been less specific about a max player.

A rookie then? The Hornets do have two first round picks because of the Jamaal Magloire trade. Unfortunately they're drafting 15th and probably 12th (depending upon the lottery). This year's draft is considerably weak considering the high school crop has to spend a year in college (Kevin Durant, Greg Oden) and college players have decided this is the year to stick it out another year(Big Baby Davis and Joakim Noah). It's doubtful that this depleted class will let much slide as far as 12 or 15.

[ChumpDumper]

A rookie then?No. Rookies are not max players.

[Darkwaters]

No. Rookies are not max players.

N/M, it doesn't matter. The only thing thats significant is PJ Brown would be more than willing to spend a year in San Antonio if he was pretty sure the Spurs would take him in a trade. And the Hornets would be more than willing to move him in order to free up another 8 million, acquire a shooter and center, move 2 other problem players and assist in developing Brandon Bass.

[ChumpDumper]

It would matter if he has a no trade clause, otherwise the decision isn't his.

[Darkwaters]

It would matter if he has a no trade clause, otherwise the decision isn't his.

There is no such clause.

But if he wants the trade the Hornets will try and find one that suits him. Hes been in Charlotte/New Orleans/Oklahoma City so long and is very beloved by the team staff and fans. If he wants this trade they will try and make it happen. Besides, he has significant value if only because of his expiring contract. Plus he kind of gets in the way of what they're doing. Why wouldn't they do it?

[ChumpDumper]

There is no such clause. Of course there is. I just don't know if PJ has one.
But if he wants the trade the Hornets will try and find one that suits him.AND them.
Plus he kind of gets in the way of what they're doing.No, there is no way Byron would want to give PJ up if he didn't have to - he's the vet leader of that team.

[Darkwaters]

I meant there is no clause in PJ's contract.

You just read and respond without thinking, don't you. Of course there is such a clause. I'm not so stupid to think it's a myth.

Did I not express how that trade would help not only PJ but the Hornets (and the Spurs)?

[ChumpDumper]

It's not my fault you post ambiguously.

You haven't proven you aren't that stupid yet. It's only 17 posts.
Did I not express how that trade would help not only PJ but the Hornets (and the Spurs)?Who knows what else would be available to the Hornets?

Not you.

Not me.

April.

[Darkwaters]

It's not my fault you post ambiguously.

You haven't proven you aren't that stupid yet. It's only 17 posts.

Quality over quantity

[ChumpDumper]

Sorry, we've pencilled PJ into our lineup before.

[Darkwaters]

I never said that this trade WOULD happen. Just that it made sense.