Did Parker get hurt or foul out?

[SequSpur]

Then why in the fuck didn't he play during the last two plays?

He's a fucking allstar and he is sitting on the bench.

Dallas scored every fucking possession almost in the fourth quarter.

We won 63 fucking games and 3 championships playing our fucking ball, defense and fucking rebounding.

Avery is making Pop look like a bitch.

What the fuck I say???

Fuck that, Pop can fucking leave, bullshit I say.

Our lineups are fucking stupid. We need to dictate the tempo and kick their fucking asses.

Fuck that bullshit. I'm just fucking pissed.

[Nikos]

I wish Parker would just take over. I'm tired of him fading as the playoffs go every year. Im tired of him having one game of 29pts, then having 4 straight games where he takes more shots than he makes points. I don't give a shit if he shoots 50% if hes never gonna make free throws, or hit a three, or hes going to get tentative on offense if he isn't allowed so shred the defense.....

Manu isn't any better these playoffs. But I still wish Tony could play his game in the playoffs, and not get worse every year.....

Please Tony!

[Kori Ellis]

Nikos, what are you talking about? Tony is averaging about 20ppg in the playoffs. In the Kings series, he scored 20 in 5 out of 6 games. He could barely walk in Games 1 and 2 and still went out there and averaged 17ppg in those two games. Sure both Manu and Tony sucked from the field tonight, but don't act like Tony has faded in these playoffs.


Sequ, they needed the perimeter shooters in to spread the floor.

[timvp]

Parker's J isn't good enough to spread the floor.

Parker needs 30 in Game 4. They are letting him go one-on-one.

[ploto]

Nikos, what are you talking about? Tony is averaging about 20ppg in the playoffs. He could barely walk in Games 1 and 2 and still went out there and averaged 17ppg in those two games. Sure both Manu and Tony sucked from the field tonight, but don't act like Tony has faded in these playoffs.
I wondered why he wasn't even in the game on the last play??

[timvp]

Parker won't be in on a last play when the play isn't designed for him.

We saw what happened in Game 3 vs Sac when Bibby just left him to double Manu.

[Kori Ellis]

I wondered why he wasn't even in the game on the last play??

Because they had all the best 3 point shooters on the floor.

[Josh810]

Nikos, what are you talking about? Tony is averaging about 20ppg in the playoffs. In the Kings series, he scored 20 in 5 out of 6 games. He could barely walk in Games 1 and 2 and still went out there and averaged 17ppg in those two games. Sure both Manu and Tony sucked from the field tonight, but don't act like Tony has faded in these playoffs.


Sequ, they needed the perimeter shooters in to spread the floor.
I agree, first Ginobili and now this? Do you watch any games? :lol

[Nikos]

I really don't give a shit anymore. I want him to do well FROM NOW on. Regardless of injuries or whatever. Every year Parker fades as the playoffs go on. If he doesn't flat out kick ass I will be upset. Those are my standards for him. Show me all the stats you want on Round 1, but in my mind the Kings should have never posed the threat they did.

IMO the Spurs should have beaten the Kings easily even with a injured Parker and Manu.

It is flat out unacceptable if Tony doesn't play like the all star he was this season from now on. Now that Dallas has kicked the Spurs in the teeth, I want to see him play HIS GAME. Not just shoot 7-18 and have adecent FG%, but still look like he isn't half the player he was in the regular season.

Manu isn't going to kick ass this playoffs. He isn't going to help Duncan and Bowen to save the teams ass this year like he did last year. Just won't happen.

I expect Tony to pick up the slack for Manu's poor playoffs. THIS IS THE TIME. Time is running out. Yeah the Spurs have a great core blah blah blah. But with Manu not being able to play 20mpg next year, and Parker not playing his game in the playoffs practically EVERY YEAR, and Bowen getting older......what are the Spurs going to do these next few years? Rely on Duncan, aging perimeter, and Parker's all star regular season and subpar playoffs.

Sorry but I call it like I see it. Parker needs to find a way to step up if he is healthy enough to play big minutes. If he is severely injured the rest of the these playoffs then I understand. But the guy is CAPABLE of taking over the games against the elite teams like Dallas. The Kings is the past. The Kings were SUPPOSED to get beaten by the Spurs. I want Parker to kick ass NOW. Manu isn't going to be SUPERMANU this playoffs. Horry isn't going to pull out mircales. PARKER can squash all these problems by flat out taking over the rest of the series. He can do it. But if he doesn't I don't like the Spurs chances. It isn't his fault they lost today. It's his fault and Manu's that he Spurs aren't a great playoff team this year. But it's easier to expect more from Parker because he has been erratic EVERY PLAYOFF season.

[Kori Ellis]

Okay Nikos. So you want a guy who could LITERALLY barely walk the night before Game 2 to put up All-Star numbers when he doesn't have any lift?

Good luck :tu

When he's healthy, he'll put up Kings-series type numbers on MOST nights, if he's not, then he won't.

[timvp]

The Mavs are playing Tony in a way that he could drop 50 on them. They are sending NO help his way. The point guards are just letting him drive and he has to finish over their center. He's been doing this all year. He has to do it now in Game 4.

Manu did at the end of the game what Tony can and should do all game. Taking it to the hole and finishing ain't no thing for Tony.

30 in Game 4.

[SPARKY]

TP can sack up and do it.

[Nikos]

Okay Nikos. So you want a guy who could LITERALLY barely walk the night before Game 2 to put up All-Star numbers when he doesn't have any lift?

Good luck :tu

When he's healthy, he'll put up Kings-series type numbers on MOST nights, if he's not, then he won't.

So in essense the Spurs are losing cause of injuries? I don't know what to say really. If Tony is on the court playing for 35mpg+ I expect him to play HIS GAME. Simple. I don't know how banged up he is, I just watch the game as I see it. I feel Parker should play like the all star he is from now on. Can he do it? Or is he still extremely hurt RIGHT NOW?

[Kori Ellis]

TP can sack up and do it.

Yeah I think he can (and will) in Game 4. But to dog him for gutting out games 1 and 2 is ridiculous.

[timvp]

Tony looks fine to me. He usually bounces back.

30 in Game 4.

[Nikos]

I agree, first Ginobili and now this? Do you watch any games? :lol

Yes I watch the games. I watched all the Spurs playoff games since 2001. I practically got depressed for a week when they lost in 2004. And of course the thought always lingered after that. I get pissed when they lose (and that is an understatement). So yes, I most certainly WATCH the games.

[Kori Ellis]

So in essense the Spurs are losing cause of injuries? I don't know what to say really. If Tony is on the court playing for 35mpg+ I expect him to play HIS GAME. Simple. I don't know how banged up he is, I just watch the game as I see it. I feel Parker should play like the all star he is from now on. Can he do it? Or is he still extremely hurt RIGHT NOW?

No, he's not EXTREMELY hurt right now. Sure he's still banged up (he got re-kneed tonight I believe). But I talked to someone close to him the night before Game 2 and he literally could barely walk and thought at that time he wouldn't be able to go.

I think he's physically capable of doing what he needs to do now. In Games 1 and 2, he wasn't.

[Josh810]

Yes I watch the games. I watched all the Spurs playoff games since 2001. I practically got depressed for a week when they lost in 2004. And of course the thought always lingered after that. I get pissed when they lose (and that is an understatement). So yes, I most certainly WATCH the games.
Alright good enough. I think it's just a little exaggeration, and it's understandable after a crappy loss like this one.

[Nikos]

Yeah I think he can (and will) in Game 4. But to dog him for gutting out games 1 and 2 is ridiculous.

I am going to dog him out if he doesn't FROM NOW ON. As of now I am venting that he couldn't take over today. I don't honestly know how hurt he really is, HOW CAN ANYBODY? Especially when he plays 38min+? I am just saying, if he doesn't play HIS GAME, I will be extremely upset. And I won't be happy with TP's all star season if he fades from game 4 and on in this series.

[Kori Ellis]

Fine, if you don't think Parker looks like regular season Parker for the rest of the playoffs, call him out all you want.

So have you given up on Manu or what?

[SPARKY]

He's clearly not feeling well, but he can sack up and take over.

[TDMVPDPOY]

his been a nobody in this series

[Nikos]

Fine, if you don't think Parker looks like regular season Parker for the rest of the playoffs, call him out all you want.

So have you given up on Manu or what?

I think Manu can put in a nice game here and there. But the 2005 Playoff Manu is not there. He would need to get 25-26ppg on 55%+ shooting really for the rest of the series to even come close to playoff 05 Manu. Obviously won't happen. I don't really trust Manu to take over if Parker struggles or everyone but Duncan struggles on offense. He obviously can still have solid games. But that wasn't Manu last year. Last year he had a handful of poor games, the rest were either extremely efficient or flat out awesome. Even in some of his poor games where he turned the ball over late he had excellent and efficient numbers across the board.

[SPARKY]

Geez, the Spurs only need one win there in this series. Looking at tonight's game they're not exactly that far away.

[Nikos]

They haven't looked too good these past two games. Isn't there a decent chance they may lose this series?

[SPARKY]

They didn't look too good in Game 2 and that was with their anchor put on the shelf for half of the 2nd quarter. Tonight was a different story. Unless AJ can pull something else out of his bag of tricks nothing is a given in this series. I'm really surprised by the assumption that this series has been decided. The Spurs showed tonight that they can handle the Mavs' major "adjustment". I'd be much more concerned if we saw a repeat of Game 2. Of course, we didn't, since Duncan wasn't taken out of the game until the end on a rather questionable call. Those are the breaks, but I'm not really seeing the basis for the Mavs fans looking ahead to the Finals or the Spurs fans writing this series epitaph already.

[SPARKY]

Spurs take a tight one in Game 4 and is the series over then with them headed back to SA for Game 5?

[aaronstampler]

Since everyone loves to call out Manu now, I'd just like to point out that Tony played like total crap once again. 6-16 FG? WTF. Whoever he was supposed to guard went by him repeatedly like he wasn't even there, and he managed a whopping 4 assists despite having the ball in hands for 38 minutes. In 3 games now our Point Guard hasn't TOTALED 10 assists yet.

And on the last play, he could have gotten his ass in front of Dirk easily and at least tried to get the rebound. He could have gotten position and maybe drawn an over the back call. He didn't even try to get the rebound even though HE WAS RIGHT THERE. He just stood to the side and watched Dirk get it and get fouled. And every time Duncan got a foul call on him it was after somebody blew by Parker, usually Dirk.

This game is all on Pop and his ridiculous small lineup, Horry for doing nothing, and Tony. And Nazr might have set a new low for worst 1 minute stint of basketball. The only thing he didn't do was injure a teammate.

I just don't understand Pop's lineup at the end there with 17 secs. Horry, Manu, Tony, Fin, and Brent. Who the hell was he expecting to get the defensive rebound? Just a stupid, stupid lineup. It's like he conceded that the refs were going to rebound or get fouled, so he put a miracle steal lineup on the floor.

[TDMVPDPOY]

we need to get rid of him for a real pg

[SpursGo25]

The only way the Mavs win is with the BS refs helping them. But looks like Stern is hell bent on keeping the Spurs down this post season. If game 4 is officiated like 2 and 3 then we need to get in Sterns face and demand an explanation. Find out where the fucker lives and haunt his ass until he comes clean. HAUNT HIS ASS!!

[MannyIsGod]

It pisses me off how quickly some Spurs fans jump shit. I wonder if all teams have fans like this? Man, some Spurs fans suck.

[ShoogarBear]

Because they had all the best 3 point shooters on the floor.
Why do you need a three-pointer when you're down by 1?

[WalterBenitez]

Then why in the fuck didn't he play during the last two plays?
He's a fucking allstar and he is sitting on the bench.
Dallas scored every fucking possession almost in the fourth quarter.
We won 63 fucking games and 3 championships playing our fucking ball, defense and fucking rebounding.
Avery is making Pop look like a bitch.
What the fuck I say???
Fuck that, Pop can fucking leave, bullshit I say.
Our lineups are fucking stupid. We need to dictate the tempo and kick their fucking asses.
Fuck that bullshit. I'm just fucking pissed.

You asked WHY, ... YOU ASKED WHY??? ...WHY

Ask POP!?

[fyatuk]

Parker won't be in on a last play when the play isn't designed for him.

We saw what happened in Game 3 vs Sac when Bibby just left him to double Manu.

With 2 seconds left and needing to go full court, I'd want Tony in there. Get him the ball in the backcourt as he's moving towards the frontcourt and let him toss it up. He's hit more of those than most people.

[1Parker1]

Why do you need a three-pointer when you're down by 1?

EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT!!!

Oh, and Pop is really underutilizing Finley. His minutes have been so sporadic and random, how the hell does he expect him to get into any kind of rythmn?
And please, for the love of god, bring back Horry to the bench. Anyone with eyes can see that Horry has more impact while playing limited minutes. I know our choices are limited, with Nazr, Rasho, and Oberto...but seriously try Rasho or Oberto at this point, Pop.

[spurschamp2005]

Spurs just cannot win without a FIRE ginobilli

[picnroll]

Parker clearly doesn't have the speed or quickness that he normally has. A Parker without his speed and quicknes ain't much. I doubt we'll know until after the playoffs just how injured he is. He has a deep thigh bruise, don't know how bad, but that's not an injury that goes away in a couple of days. Devin Harris missed multiple games with the same injury. In the end it may be we should be appreciative he could sack up and try to go at all.

[ducks]

parker missed 5 layups
he would have been 11-16 had he made them
he still does not have all his legs back

[yavozerb]

Why isnt tony in for the final play??My bad, he's only the fastest player on the court and has made numerous 3 pt plays at the buzzer this playoffs..

[Nikos]

It pisses me off how quickly some Spurs fans jump shit. I wonder if all teams have fans like this? Man, some Spurs fans suck.

It just pisses me off that this team consistently performs below their standards. They won freaking 63 games with 2/3 best players banged up, including their best player at 70%. In reality they could have been a 66-67 win team if fully healthy. And yet they had major problems with the Kings and are in danger of losing to the Mavericks.

Of course it isn't over yet. But with Parker looking banged up, Manu being iffy these playoffs, it just looks like the Spurs are going to have to win a close one in Dallas in game 4. And that is going to be very tough. They never seem to have all of their big three playing well, and that is what concerns me. Now that Duncan is back, Parker is injured, and Manu can't play consistently. What next?

I consider the Mavs an excellent team. But lets get real. The Spurs at their best should beat this team (even if Dallas is at their best and despite the matchups advantages they have and all of that bullshit).

Spurs are capable of more. And with Parker hurt now, it's going to be very tough to get this Game 4. Fans have reason to be upset.

[genghisrex]

They didn't look too good in Game 2 and that was with their anchor put on the shelf for half of the 2nd quarter. Tonight was a different story. Unless AJ can pull something else out of his bag of tricks nothing is a given in this series. I'm really surprised by the assumption that this series has been decided. The Spurs showed tonight that they can handle the Mavs' major "adjustment". I'd be much more concerned if we saw a repeat of Game 2. Of course, we didn't, since Duncan wasn't taken out of the game until the end on a rather questionable call. Those are the breaks, but I'm not really seeing the basis for the Mavs fans looking ahead to the Finals or the Spurs fans writing this series epitaph already.
Nice post, Sparky. We're three games into this series and down one game. Big deal. This series is far from over, and with games like last night it looks like it could very well go the distance.

This series should have been a great Western Conference Finals.

[SequSpur]

If I'm Parker, I'm calling out fucking Pop right now. He's an allstar, his ass should be playing every fucking minute that he can literally walk. He is a threat.

Most of the Spurs aren't even a threat in their wet dreams.

I declare bullshit on this whole postseason.

Pop is getting used.

[picnroll]

Use to be when Parker got called out he got pissed and he came back aggressive with a vengeance. Hopefully Parker is good to go and pissed.

[1Parker1]

Use to be when Parker got called out he got pissed and he came back aggressive with a vengeance. Hopefully Parker is good to go and pissed.

Parker wasn't called out by anyone. Pop, for some weird reason, had all his best 3 point shooters out there for the final play (Barry, Manu, Horry, Finley). That's why he wasn't out there. He didn't have the best game, Harris completely out-Parkered him. Now is the time we'll see if Tony learned from his regular season performance and carry that into the playoffs. He's had rought games in the regular season which he's bounced back from. I'm sure we'll see a better finisher in Game 4. :tu

[T Park]

Why do you need a three-pointer when you're down by 1?

To uh, draw the defense out of the paint for Ginobili to drive?

[MavsIn5]

Parker got owned by Devin Harris. The only thing hurt on him is his pride.

San AntoniOwned.

[jman3000]

What the Spurs need to do is stop settling for jumpshots. We have one of the best slashers (Manu) and finishers (Tony) in the league. The game needs to be won from the paint and then take advantage of the outside. I'd settle for 2-3 of our shots being blocked early as long as we at least TRY to set the tempo. Diop is a great shot blocker but the tear drop is always an option for him and Manu needs to start taking the ball into the teeth of the defenders... it's what he does best and it's what we need him to do for us to pull out of this hole.


Spurs in 6

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

we need to get rid of him for a real pg
Dumb.

We never needed one. Tim Duncan is our PG.

[gmanrulz]

these threads r so dumb. one play our way and everyones talking about how great pop is and how awesome the spurs are.

[SPARKY]

Parker got owned by Devin Harris. The only thing hurt on him is his pride.

San AntoniOwned.


Another solid basketball take from a Mavs fan.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Devin Harris will show himself for the TP-lite that he is when he faces a fully cocked and loaded Tony Parker in game 4.

[mabber]

The only way the Mavs win is with the BS refs helping them. But looks like Stern is hell bent on keeping the Spurs down this post season. If game 4 is officiated like 2 and 3 then we need to get in Sterns face and demand an explanation. Find out where the fucker lives and haunt his ass until he comes clean. HAUNT HIS ASS!!

Yeah, Stern wants the Mark Cuban-owned Mavs to win cuz they are such good buddies :lol