Hate To Start This Thread But ...

[timvp]

http://amarillo.com/images/headlines/032103/spurs.jpg

Wouldn't it be nice to still have The Mav Killer. Malik Rose played his best basketball of his career against the Mavs. He could guard Dirk or any number of their swing players. Rose also routinely destroyed them on the glass.

Even when David Robinson was around, Malik was the one who got most of the minutes versus the Mavs. Truth is the Spurs have always gone small against he Mavs, but the problem is the Spurs don't have a small who can rebound anymore. Rose was quick enough on the perimeter and was a monster on the glass.

If the Spurs had him this series they'd be looking ahead to the Western Conference Finals right now. Rebounding has killed the team more than anything and if there's one thing Malik can do, it's rebound.

Oh and before you post the "Nazr won the championship last year" crap, that's BS. He was good against Denver and pretty decent against the Sonics and Suns, but was horrible against the Pistons. He was a place holder for Horry ... no more, no less. Rasho or any other center with a pulse would have done the same.

Special shout out to Peter Holt for saving money on ditching Rose's contract.

[2centsworth]

Oh and before you post the "Nazr won the championship last year" crap, that's BS. He was good against Denver and pretty decent against the Sonics and Suns, but was horrible against the Pistons. He was a place holder for Horry ... no more, no less. Rasho or any other center with a pulse would have done the same.

I don't know, that block on Ben Wallace in Crunch time in game 7 was pretty big.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Devin Brown would come in handy too.

[timvp]

That's not even mentioning David Lee, who the Knicks took with the Spurs draft pick. Here is a nice stat about him:


Ranks #14 in the NBA in Rebounds Per 48 Minutes(12.9)

[picnroll]

I can't believe it. I agree.

Now if you'll only admit that Nick the Quicksand sucks.

[ploto]

I don't know, that block on Ben Wallace in Crunch time in game 7 was pretty big.
You mean after going 5 3/4 games without a single block??

[Extra Stout]

Devin Brown would come in handy too.
Finley = Devin Brown, at least.

[ducks]

david robinson>>>>rose

he would be the best to have back

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Finley = Devin Brown, at least.


Except for the fact that Devin Brown defending Harris makes infinite more sense than Barry, Manu, or Finley on him, and also rebounds much better than finley.

I'm talkin defnese and reboundin, not taking O into consideration.

[angel_luv]

If only popular demand could bring back Malik.

[strangeweather]

Wouldn't it be nice to still have The Mav Killer. Malik Rose played his best basketball of his career against the Mavs. He could guard Dirk or any number of their swing players. Rose also routinely destroyed them on the glass.

Sigh. :depressed

[2centsworth]

You mean after going 5 3/4 games without a single block??he wasn't great in that series, but he made some key plays. Can't expect much more from a role player. but i'm not going to defend his play of late. I'm already on record as saying spurs miss malik.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

If only Nazr would apply super glue to his hands

[Sense]

I hated the fact that u started this thread too ...

[Cant_Be_Faded]

you think thets bad

rememba tha time Malik dunked it in Dirk's face and got an and-1?

[SenorSpur]

That's not even mentioning David Lee, who the Knicks took with the Spurs draft pick. Here is a nice stat about him:

Maybe Isiah will take back Nazr for Malik.

[mavsfan1000]

Great thread. The spurs did not build their team to stop the mavs. They needed a power forward that could guard Dirk while rebounding and make Dirk guard the post. No one fits that style on the current spurs.

[Sense]

We've gone sad to accept the fact the Spurs are down...





....

I'm not saying the loses were fair either...

But let's forget about the "what ifs" plz....


This is a, "WHAT IF malik was still on this team"

[Bruno]

Malik Rose isn't Malik Rose anymore.
It would have been nice to Have malik and a time machine.

And David Lee is a very average player : rebounding isn't enough.

[spurs=bling]

If only Nazr would apply super glue to his hands
:lol i was think more like velcro. and yes we could use Malik right now. too bad they can't do a trade like right now.

[mouse]

Spurs have never been the same w/o this cat...........


http://tahoecelebritygolf.com/Players/images/DelNegro-Vinny.jpg

[Cant_Be_Faded]

ok ok ok i get it i get it

[Trainwreck2100]

Antoine Carr, the power was in the goggles

[Melmart1]

Malik ain't coming back. Wishing he were here only adds to the misery of a 3-1 deficit. Useless.

[mavsfan1000]

The spurs need to bring back Steve Smith. :lol

[FromWayDowntown]

Spurs have never been the same w/o this cat...........


http://tahoecelebritygolf.com/Players/images/DelNegro-Vinny.jpg

You're right -- they started winning championships after he left.

[ObiwanGinobili]

damn , timvp really does love him some mailk huh?

well - if we could have a player back for just this series - yes, I would choose mailk.

[timvp]

Malik Rose isn't Malik Rose anymore.
It would have been nice to Have malik and a time machine.

Malik had a stretch this year where he was starting, putting up double-doubles and the Knicks were winning. Then Larry Brown mixed up the lineup and they went back to losing.


And David Lee is a very average player : rebounding isn't enough.

I'd trade Nazr and Rasho for David Lee right now. The guy is quick, can run, can jump and would be perfect against the Mavs.

The Spurs have no mobile power forwards on this team.

[timvp]

damn , timvp really does love him some mailk huh?

well - if we could have a player back for just this series - yes, I would choose mailk.

I love wins.

[mouse]

The face Dirk is making in this picture? looks to be photoShop material :smokin



http://amarillo.com/images/headlines/032103/spurs.jpg

[timvp]

http://peninsulaclarion.com/images/052203/spurs.jpg

It'd be nice if a current Spur fought for rebounds.

[Party Girl]

Spurs have never been the same w/o this cat...........


http://tahoecelebritygolf.com/Players/images/DelNegro-Vinny.jpg


Is this Manu's brother?

[tlongII]

Spurs have never been the same w/o this cat...........


http://tahoecelebritygolf.com/Players/images/DelNegro-Vinny.jpg

VINNY!

[gameFACE]

Great thread. The spurs did not build their team to stop the mavs.
It's the other way around. The Mavs had to build their team to stop the Spurs. That's what the lakers did in '04 to stop the Spurs.

I'm sure there will be heated discussion this summer about the center position. I for one advocate a solution not involving Nazr or Rasho. A complete renovation. More to come.

[T Park.]

damn , timvp really does love him some mailk huh?


A free Philly Steak N Cheese sandwitch can do that to a person :lmao

[strangeweather]

Is this Manu's brother?

:lmao

[SPARKY]

I wholeheartedly agree. Malik was a nice fit in SA and a player who would show up for the postseason. His series against the Mavs in '03 was nothing short of spectacular for a Spurs reserve. Now the Spurs are stuck with a center they can't wait to get rid of (and who was never going to be a Spurs past the end of his current contract).

As for Devin Brown, he'd definitely be a nice fit in this series. At least you would have one more player on the bench, someone more useful than Udrih.

[T Park]

Whats the point of this?

[strangeweather]

As long as we're playing what if, I wish we had Claxton back. That would beat the hell out of Van Exel or Beno.

[Bruno]

Malik had a stretch this year where he was starting, putting up double-doubles and the Knicks were winning. Then Larry Brown mixed up the lineup and they went back to losing.

Yep, two games :lol
Malik has been horrible with New York this year.
4.4 pts/3.6rbds in a 23 win team.
Just face it, Our Malik has died after the 03 title.



I'd trade Nazr and Rasho for David Lee right now. The guy is quick, can run, can jump and would be perfect against the Mavs.

The Spurs have no mobile power forwards on this team.

Lee is an average defender (that's why Malik was the starter this year) and a weak offensive player.
Tons of player could have help us way more than Lee against the Howard/Dirk matchup.
Since the start of the season, a lot of people have agreed that we needed a SF/PF on this team, it's not new.

[exstatic]

His net cost would be about $15-16M, after luxury tax considerations. Knock yourself out.

[timvp]

Yep, two games
Malik has been horrible with New York this year.

Let's see. Malik played over 30 minutes four times. In those four games he had double-doubles in all of them. The Knicks won three of the four games.

Malik has always sucked if he doesn't get regular playing time. But give him a role and you have a player who will die for a win.

[timvp]

His net cost would be about $15-16M, after luxury tax considerations. Knock yourself out.

Are you counting Nazr and Malik on the same team?

[spurs=bling]

Whats the point of this?
that we could use Malik right about now. and we could have used him during the kings series.

[timvp]

Whats the point of this?

Learn from mistakes. Planning on how to construct this team for the future.

It turns out having a mobile, undersized power forward who can rebound isn't the worst thing in the world.

[SPARKY]

Malik's a burden but Rasho and Nazr are clearly valuable right now. Yeah.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Learn from mistakes. Planning on how to construct this team for the future.

It turns out having a mobile, undersized power forward who can rebound isn't the worst thing in the world.

pj tucker anyone?

[SPARKY]

Learn from mistakes. Planning on how to construct this team for the future.

It turns out having a mobile, undersized power forward who can rebound isn't the worst thing in the world.

Pinching pennies when you're trying to win more championships isn't a good policy. It's time for Holt to move some more Cats.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

PJ would come ultra cheap and he's basically a malik rose clone

[Smackie Chan]

Whats the point of this?


hey as long as it keeps you out of the fridge, it's doing some good. . :lmao

[ALVAREZ6]

I say we re-acquire Malik Rose.

[timvp]

Oh and lets not forget that the Spurs don't have a first round pick this year either because of the trade.

Thank you Peter Holt.

[Bruno]

Let's see. Malik played over 30 minutes four times. In those four games he had double-doubles in all of them. The Knicks won three of the four games.

Malik has always sucked if he doesn't get regular playing time. But give him a role and you have a player who will die for a win.

Other way to see this thing :
Malik was only 4 mes good enough to deserve 30 minutes of playtime.

He doesn't get regular playtime because he wasn't good enough. Plain and simple.

[SPARKY]

Other way to see this thing :
Malik was only 4 mes good enough to deserve 30 minutes of playtime.

He doesn't get regular playtime because he wasn't good enough. Plain adn simple.

...and Mohammed and Nesterovic are?

[timvp]

I say we re-acquire Malik Rose.

Eh, I don't really care if the Spurs do or not. But to make a trade for a player based on financial reasons is wrong.

Also, not doing all you can to fill a void that has been obvious for years (Long Three/Agile Four) is just dumb. How long have we known the Spurs needed a 6-foot-8 type player who is long, can rebound and defend?

Years.

[SPARKY]

Oh and lets not forget that the Spurs don't have a first round pick this year either because of the trade.

Thank you Peter Holt.

They took away two 1st round picks from one of the best, if not the best talent evaluation staffs in the NBA and gave up a proven, versatile bigman role player with championship experience for a center whose ass is permanently attached to the bench in this series. Awesome.

Where are all those Spurs fans who cheered for Holt Cat's $?

[1Parker1]

If we still had Malik Rose, guaranteed he would have been starting this series. You're exactly right, Timvp. Rose would have been perfect for this series. :tu

[Cant_Be_Faded]

true true
Can you imagine how undefeatable we'd be if we had cuban's money?

[Bruno]

...and Mohammed and Nesterovic are?

No but we won't have to pay Nazr 3 more year at $7M/year and Rasho wasn't a part of this deal.
For the record I take Rasho over Malik :
7' center > 6'5" PF

[SPARKY]

Who cares?

[I am Tom]

I say we re-acquire Malik Rose.


What do you care your off the wagon remember ?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Besides the future onslaught of Greg Oden, is there even any reason to have a center in today's game anyways?

Shaq is obviously on the decline

[timvp]

No but we won't have to pay Nazr 3 more year at $7M/year and Rasho wasn't a part of this deal.
For the record I take Rasho over Malik :
7' center > 6'5" PF

A center who is useless in the playoffs is greater than a two-time NBA champion who has a history of coming up big in big moments.

Oookay :lol

[SPARKY]

At least the Spurs will have their int'l farm team to dip into in the offseason.

[Bruno]

A center who is useless in the playoffs is greater than a two-time NBA champion who has a history of coming up big in big moments.

Oookay :lol

Malik was so great in 04... :lol
We are in 06 not in 03 and in 06, Malik sucks.

[Bruno]

Besides the future onslaught of Greg Oden, is there even any reason to have a center in today's game anyways?

Shaq is obviously on the decline

Yao

[ALVAREZ6]

What do you care your off the wagon remember ?
How am I off the wagon???

Just because I got pissed means nothing. I am not off the wagon, I haven't given up, and I am still going to watch the rest of this series, regardless of how many games it lasts.

And by the way, how am I a bandwagoner?


There's nothing wrong about getting over a loss and planning for the future is there?

[timvp]

Other than against Yao, what NBA team could the Spurs play in the playoffs that would make Rasho be worth his contract?

He's seven-foot and knows where to be defensively. You need to be able to do more than that. If he could score or rebound well on top of it, he'd be a good player. But when he's not rebounding or scoring, he's useless.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Kori should sell spurstalk and buy the spurs so timvp could be GM

[timvp]

Malik was so great in 04... :lol
We are in 06 not in 03 and in 06, Malik sucks.

Remind me what Malik did in the four games he got decent minutes.

Channing Frye was averaging 15 and 7 in December. His minutes went down each month for some unknown reason. By the end of the season he was barely playing. You think he sucks to or perhaps Larry Brown had something to do with it?

[Bruno]

Other than against Yao, what NBA team could the Spurs play in the playoffs that would make Rasho be worth his contract?

He's seven-foot and knows where to be defensively. You need to be able to do more than that. If he could score or rebound well on top of it, he'd be a good player. But when he's not rebounding or scoring, he's useless.

Malik is overpaid too and more useless than Rasho.

[SPARKY]

Malik was not useless in the Spurs' rotation. The Spurs made the bidness decision and went with the move to cut long term salary. Don't believe the trade was for any other reason.

[Kori Ellis]

Kori should sell spurstalk and buy the spurs so timvp could be GM

When we get a multi-million dollar offer for Spurstalk, I'm all over that idea :)

[timvp]

Malik is overpaid too and more useless than Rasho.

Malik would see minutes when the Spurs would have to go small. The NBA is getting smaller, not bigger. Nowadays Malik's height wouldn't even be a problem.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I wasn't in love with Malik, but I do think he was a good role player against the right teams. Dallas would qualify as one of those teams.

[Bruno]

Remind me what Malik did in the four games he got decent minutes.

Channing Frye was averaging 15 and 7 in December. His minutes went down each month for some unknown reason. By the end of the season he was barely playing. You think he sucks to or perhaps Larry Brown had something to do with it?

See above, Malik has been average/good less than 10 games this year

Rookie wall for Frye and he was injured for the end of the season.
Another reason why he hasn't played a lot is that he is a poor defender and with Curry at the C spot, you can't have a weak defender at the PF spot.

[Spurologist]

I remember everyone hating on Malik when he was with the knicks, now everyone wants him back. All possibilities are always exhausted when losing games is involved.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I remember everyone hating on Malik when he was with the knicks, now everyone wants him back. All possibilities are always exhausted when losing games is involved.

I'm hoping that Sean Marks is in the lineup in game 5.

Heck, I'm hoping the freaking ball boy gets some minutes if he can impede the onslaught of lane penetration the Mavs have put on the Spurs.

[Bruno]

Malik would see minutes when the Spurs would have to go small. The NBA is getting smaller, not bigger. Nowadays Malik's height wouldn't even be a problem.

Except that ther are way better small players than Malik and you can get an undersized PF for cheap but you can't get a legit center for chezap

[timvp]

Yeah because Rasho will get a ton of minutes against the Mavs, Suns and Pistons.

[Bruno]

Yeah because Rasho will get a ton of minutes against the Mavs, Suns and Pistons.

And Malik too : the guy who can't play more than 15mpg in a bad team.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Rasho is arguably the worst spur since mengkee bateer and Malik has countless memorable moments as a spur, how is this arugment continuing

[whottt]

http://amarillo.com/images/headlines/032103/spurs.jpg

Wouldn't it be nice to still have The Mav Killer. Malik Rose played his best basketball of his career against the Mavs. He could guard Dirk or any number of their swing players. Rose also routinely destroyed them on the glass.

Even when David Robinson was around, Malik was the one who got most of the minutes versus the Mavs. Truth is the Spurs have always gone small against he Mavs, but the problem is the Spurs don't have a small who can rebound anymore. Rose was quick enough on the perimeter and was a monster on the glass.

If the Spurs had him this series they'd be looking ahead to the Western Conference Finals right now. Rebounding has killed the team more than anything and if there's one thing Malik can do, it's rebound.

Oh and before you post the "Nazr won the championship last year" crap, that's BS. He was good against Denver and pretty decent against the Sonics and Suns, but was horrible against the Pistons. He was a place holder for Horry ... no more, no less. Rasho or any other center with a pulse would have done the same.

Special shout out to Peter Holt for saving money on ditching Rose's contract.


Sigh..what ever you do, don't post Malik's stats from the last time we met Dallas in the playoffs. It'll hurt too bad....and make a desperate situation feel ever more hopeless. And delete that block on Bradley from your photo collection as well, you might accidentally post it.

[whottt]

Rasho is arguably the worst spur since mengkee bateer and Malik has countless memorable moments as a spur, how is this arugment continuing

Mean.


What did Mengke ever do to you?

[Spurologist]

I think the player most similar to Malik's game is Oberto. I wish we had him when he was a bit younger. He could be a carbon copy of Malik is he had some more bounce in his step. He's just as physical and aggressive on the boards, but it helps to get higher than an inch off the guard.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

10 points 6 rebounds vs dallas in 03

[whottt]

Malik could get to the FT line like a Beast...he's a better rebounder than Rasho, Nazr, Horr or Oberto...he could hit J's and he was fast enough to guard long players and big enough to be an obstalcle for the taller players.


Dirk wouldn't want to be anywhere near the tank that was Malik Rose....

Remember when LaFreantz started throwing bows at Malik?
I do...I also remember Magic and Barkley saying LaFrentz was stupid for even thinking he wants a piece of Malik...


I think LaFrentz hurt his elbows...

[whottt]

10 points 6 rebounds vs dallas in 03


What about game 2? Don't do it...you sadist.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

25 points, off 5-11 FG, 15-18 FT, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 1 steal, 2 TO, 5 PF

[whottt]

And one thing is beyond debate...what ever we might need from Malik...there is one thing he would definitely have given us...Maximim Effort. Something not in the vocabularly of any of our current C's.

[whottt]

25 points, off 5-11 FG, 15-18 FT, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 1 steal, 2 TO, 5 PF


You cruel bastard.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

15-18 free throws, holy shit, we should get this malik guy

[bigzak25]

who is this malik being spoke of?

[danyel]

I'd take Steve Kerr back too, to bail us out of a Dallas game...

[coachmac87]

malik rose would be a good fit in this series match up he could rebound and harasss dirk and give his damn pumpfakes and put dirk in foul trouble

[I am Tom]

How am I off the wagon???

Just because I got pissed means nothing. I am not off the wagon, I haven't given up, and I am still going to watch the rest of this series, regardless of how many games it lasts.




Posted By ALVAREZ6
Re: Anyone who thinks there is a conspiracy

If the Spurs lose, then fuck it. There's no point in watching another playoff game.



Go Pistons, and that's it.


I'm considering not even watching another NBA game of any sort ever again.







Today, 02:29 PM
Posted By ALVAREZ6
Re: The SPURS will WIN this series

fuck this shit.
bullshit Spurs





Posted By ALVAREZ6
I ca'nt take this shit anymore, the Mavs own the SPurs. Plain and simple.

If Dirk didn't go cold in the 4th quarter of game 1, by tonight the Spurs would be down 0-3.


http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41295





Today, 02:18 PM #1
ALVAREZ6
<><><><><><>

ALVAREZ6's I. Can't. Believe. This.
I can't believe this fucknig shit. the Spurs' is full of shit.

I'm gonna

a) Downgrade from being a diehard fan to a casual fan

b) Never, ever watch another NBA game for the rest of my life.

I can't watch a game of basketball These motherfuckers make the NBA look like the WNBA, and that's an understatement

[baseline bum]

That was one of my first thoughts watching game 1 of this series. Nazr was huge in the Phoenix series in helping the Spurs get off to big 1st quarter leads, but yeah... his rebounding sucked vs Detroit (about 5 a game). Still, he was 10x better than Nesterovich, and Malik would have taken Rob's minutes last year, so without that trade there's no way this team wins the 2005 title. Malik is the perfect bigman for this matchup though. I can't think of many guys I'd rather have for this series.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

=======Alvarez has been chode bloaded I saiidddddddddddddddddddddddddd========

[ShoogarBear]

I just think it would be nice to have any kind of semblence of Spurs Defense.

No matter who was playing it.

[Spurologist]

I just think it would be nice to have any kind of semblence of Spurs Defense.

No matter who was playing it.

With some the shots they were making are indefensible. The contested fade away on the baseline by crackhouse and the contested "i'll pull a shot out my ass and ark it to the ceiling over TD" terry shot were particularly sickening.

[timvp]

25 points, off 5-11 FG, 15-18 FT, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block, 1 steal, 2 TO, 5 PF

Not to mention that the game took a place less than 48 after being knocked out by a Najera elbow. Literally knocked unconscious. He comes back and scores 25 points in 27 minutes in a must win game. Spurs were down 0-1 at home already and a loss there and the season is over.

How about the game in February that year versus the Mavs where Rose went for 25 points and 14 rebounds off the bench? That was more than double the points and double the rebounds of anyone else on the Spurs' team that night.

Or what a second, how about the game in 2004 (when Malik Rose sucked, remember) when Malik had 20 points and 22 rebounds against the Mavs?

Yeah give me Rasho, he's by far the better player. His long list of playoff success is too long to write in a mere post.

[spurs=bling]

http://www.playtoscore.com/instancefiles/7479.jpg


http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nba/2003/0521/photo/g_rose_hi.jpg
^Malik Rose, left, had 25 points and six rebounds in 27 minutes to help the Spurs win Game 2.^

http://www.pbsbih.ba/sport/2003/juni/09/malik%20rose.jpg

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nba/2002/0501/photo/nbagallery5.jpg
http://sports.espn.go.com/media/nba/2003/0611/photo/a_rose_vt.jpg
^Malik Rose's dunk on Dikembe Mutombo sparked a 19-5 run in Game 3.^
http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nba/2002/0503/photo/s_malik_vt.jpg
^Malik Rose scored 18 points and pulled down a game-high 13 of the Spurs' 53 rebounds.^

http://www.nba.com/media/spurs/rose_020102.jpg

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nba/2003/0509/photo/nba10.jpg
^Malik Rose #31 of the San Antonio Spurs dunks against the Los Angeles Lakers in Game 3 of the Western Conference Semifinals during the 2003 NBA Playoffs on May 9, 2003 at Staples Center in Los Angeles, California.^

http://guide.supereva.com/basket_nba/myimg/135901_1.jpg

[SPARKY]

Damn. :depressed

[spurs=bling]

the people in SA still love him

Play To Score
Mailing address: 6981 Blanco Rd, San Antonio, Texas 78216
Store: 210-525-9322 Fax: 210-525-9370
www.Playtoscore.com

have him as their model and under his pic it says " Malik Rose-NBA-NY Knicks #13.

[ShoogarBear]

With some the shots they were making are indefensible. The contested fade away on the baseline by crackhouse and the contested "i'll pull a shot out my ass and ark it to the ceiling over TD" terry shot were particularly sickening.
I wasn't referring to those shots. I was talking about the various parades down the lane that preceded them.

[ShoogarBear]

Damn, blingy.

:tu

[ShoogarBear]

And timvp started this thread because he knew AHF was on vacation.

[spurs=bling]

Damn, blingy.

:tu
i know. i still miss him but i've been keeping in my feelings. i've never liked Nazr.

[intlspurshk]

Naza helped the team in 2005. Asked any expert and they will agree that the trade was an excellent trade. Malik didn't help in the reg season. So he was traded.

Naza didn't help the team in 2006 and he will be gone. Rasho didn't help much either and he would have been traded if any team takes him. I wish Miiny take him back too.

It's the NBA. Every team is chasing for the champion. You select the best suited players in every year. Looking back to a player's history is useless. If today Malik can give performance better than in 2003, we may welcome him with open arms. The fact is he can't even get decent playing time in NY. Nowadays, NBA are dominated by strong, tough and quick scorers which SPURS desparately need. Malik left is a blessing to the team.

[timvp]

Bump.


I still think it'd be nice to have a Rose-like player on this team. A guy who can go out there and beat you with hustle and defense.

Kind of like what he almost did to the Spurs tonight. Rose took that team from the brink of losing by 30 to almost winning the game.

Props to Malik for still having that championship substance.

[gospursgojas]

I love Malik, but he's not a Spur anymore... Hasn't been for 1 1/2 seasons.

Get over it already

[picnroll]

No way the refs would let Malik hack and hold Dirk the way he was hacking and holding Duncan and the other Spurs.

[ChumpDumper]

That this thead would be bumped after Malik pulled the chair out from Duncan along with pulling his jersey is the single most predictable action on this board this season. It's nice that we're getting the Knicks series out of the way early this season so this won't linger.

If anyone can convince me Malik is currently a seven million dollar man, I will also pine for him. Otherwise, we can just hope he gets bought out and can be signed for the minimum.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

In additional news:

Is it just me or did I see Philly Phamous closed at Bandera/1604 today?

[MI21]

I love Malik, I'd be exstatic if he ends up back in SA somehow.

[SenorSpur]

I love Malik too. His heart, effort, hustle and sheer will. In fact, I'd rather have him in place of Oberto - even though Oberto is probably a more fundamentally sound player.
It's a nice sentimental fantasy, but that $7 mil price tag always turns the fantasy into a nightmare.

[timvp]

That this thead would be bumped after Malik pulled the chair out from Duncan along with pulling his jersey is the single most predictable action on this board this season. It's nice that we're getting the Knicks series out of the way early this season so this won't linger.

If anyone can convince me Malik is currently a seven million dollar man, I will also pine for him. Otherwise, we can just hope he gets bought out and can be signed for the minimum.


I love Malik, but he's not a Spur anymore... Hasn't been for 1 1/2 seasons.

Get over it already

I guess reading isn't manditory in this forum. I said a "Rose-like player". Meaning a player that can change games with hustle and energy off the bench. The closest thing the Spurs have to that is Matt Bonner ... and that's not a good thing.

[boutons_]

yawn

Malik was fantastic in the 2002/2003 season, earning his contract.

Then he never showed us that Malik again, and got himself traded.

Malik's head got screwed up his ass and he couldn't unscrew it.

I bet last night was an exceptional effort from Malik due to guarding Tim and playing the Spurs.

I think Malik has put quite a few pounds, too. I saw him really sucking air a couple times last night, even squatting down on the court one time, not starting the season in good shape.

But I'm still a huge fan of the 2003/03 Malik.

[whottt]

Ya'll be sure to buy my book, "How not to win a championship, and like it" coming out this Christmas. It's chock full of my brilliant little Chumpisms like minimalizing double double monster perfomances by calling them, "chair pulling" and totally neglecting to mention multiple #1 picks given up. You'll also get to read my brilliant disertation on Brent Barry where I act like 86% 3 shooting is expected and the norm.


Remember, if the Spurs don't win....there was nothing they could have done to win, and it's always excusable and sensibile. The Spurs never make mistakes.



Be a Chump, buy it.

[coopdogg3]

I'd trade Nazr and Rasho for David Lee right now. The guy is quick, can run, can jump and would be perfect against the Mavs.



I'd trade Nazr and Rash for a tuna melt myself. And I hate tuna.

:lol

[ducks]

troy murphy torched the mavs last night

[ashbeeigh]

Did anyone else notice Malik was the last one that Isiah played off the bench? We're singing his praises, wanting him back after these one and a half seasons, but perhaps its a sign of other things involved that would cause a coach to put someone who ended up playing that well against his former team that far into the rotation. All other things being equal, he had an amazing game against us last night.

[boutons_]

"he had an amazing game against us last night."

yep, but I'm sure playing against his buddy Tim and the Spurs brought out the best in him, which might not be seen again this season from Malik except for 11 Nov.

[T Park]

Meaning a player that can change games with hustle and energy off the bench

Did Elson stop coming off the pine?

[Notorious H.O.P.]

In additional news:

Is it just me or did I see Philly Phamous closed at Bandera/1604 today?

Blaze,

It was three o'clock in the morning. What did you expect? :lol

[Ballcox]

I can almost guarantee you Malik won't play with that level of intensity the rest of the season. He was psyched up to play his former team and showed some of his old hustle and moxie, but no way I would want him back at 7 mil. Now, if we can find another guy with similar attributes to Malik in his prime? Great, lets get him..........or maybe White turns into that kind of player, who knows?

[Texas_Ranger]

Malik is a great player, I would like to see him in Spurs jersey again.

[Obstructed_View]

Did Elson stop coming off the pine?
I agree. Elson's looked like he could be exactly that to this team. He and Oberto should be tag teaming that role this year.

[ashbeeigh]

"he had an amazing game against us last night."

yep, but I'm sure playing against his buddy Tim and the Spurs brought out the best in him, which might not be seen again this season from Malik except for 11 Nov.

I agree, and everyone's praise for him isn't justified (in my opinion) if they want him back after he had a wonderful game after playing a former team that he has great feelings towards. I don't want him back. So what if the Nazr/Rasho experiment didn't work out, such is life. Elson seems to be working out lovely.

[Blood Dong]

Spurs=vomit

[ChumpDumper]

I guess reading isn't manditory in this forum. I said a "Rose-like player". Meaning a player that can change games with hustle and energy off the bench. The closest thing the Spurs have to that is Matt Bonner ... and that's not a good thing.Don't blame me, I wanted to call up Chuck Hayes last season.

...and isn't Elson coming off the bench now?

[Kori Ellis]

Don't blame me, I wanted to call up Chuck Hayes last season.

Good call on that. He really is a workhorse on the glass.

[SequSpur]

Malik Rose sucks.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Malik Rose sucks.

[ShoogarBear]

Good call on that. He really is a workhorse on the glass.He's single-handedly destroying the Griz as I write this.

10 points, 11 boards (6 offensive), 2 blocks, 2 assists

[my2sons]

malik is not a great player, a great spur, great for fans, but not a great player. a hard worker maybe, poor hands definitely, hustle beyond means ok, but a great player...i don't think so...that said isiah will do something stupid and get somebody a ring this year...