Iran Parliment wants Christians and Jews to wear collored badges.

[IceColdBrewski]

http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=11fbf4a8-282a-4d18-954f-546709b1240f&k=32073


The law, which must still be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims.

Iran's roughly 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes, while Christians would wear red badges and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth.

[Oh, Gee!!]

those poor Zoroastrians. PWNT

[Vashner]

Iran YES.. BUSH NO !!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Iran YES.. BUSH NO !!
yes, you would be dumb enough to think the nuclear ordeal and this has anything in common. I bet you would support invasion because of shit like this http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif

[E20]

This is stupid. This has turned 100% Hitleresque. He's doing the exact same things that Hitler has done, first with weapons, now with the people. US or someother power should say something.

[CubanMustGo]

Totally fucked. Too bad we invaded the WRONG COUNTRY a couple of years ago.

[Vashner]

yes, you would be dumb enough to think the nuclear ordeal and this has anything in common. I bet you would support invasion because of shit like this http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif

I bet you don't know jack fucking shit on this topic compared to me.

How old are you 12?

There where some assholes in America in the 30's and 40's... "America First"..

They let 6+ million jews die cause they where a big bunch of pussies.

If you you want to COUNTER that argument then you must embrace the Final Solution... DUMBASS...

http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr64iv_files/214.jpg

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I bet you don't know jack fucking shit on this topic compared to me.

How old are you 12?

There where some assholes in America in the 30's and 40's... "America First"..

They let 6+ million jews die cause they where a big bunch of pussies.

If you you want to COUNTER that argument then you must embrace the Final Solution... DUMBASS...

http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/hwr64iv_files/214.jpg
yes, you would jump to that conclusion, you dumb piece shit, wouldn't you? I agree with the policy Bush has towards Iran in regards to nuclear proliferation, but to blow this shit out of proportion and say this guy is Hitler reencarnated... lets just say one would have to be Vashner dumb

[xrayzebra]

^^You know you are really dumb. Ever heard of Chamberlain(sp)? He
said the same thing in the 30's as the crap you spit out now. Peace in our time.
Let us just review what this fine Muslim has said. The Jews are lying
nothing ever happened to them. The Jews should be wiped off the
face of earth along with their country. Build up your military might,
so you can push your neighbors around. Now the really good thing
of making all Christians and Jews wear a badge. All we now is
the crystal night. You are familiar with that I sure, since you are
so damn bright.

[smeagol]

Ok, it's settled. The US should invade Iran, Syria ('cause those guys also hate Jews and Westerners), Yemen (likewise), Saudi Arabia (becuase most of the 9/11 terrorists were from there, although the Bushes have many powerful Saudi friends), Indonesia (because its a Muslim country), North Korea (obvoius reasons) and any other country that has said something mean towards the US.

[iron mike tryson]

Law would require non-Muslim insignia
Chris WattieNational Post

Friday, May 19, 2006


Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims.
"This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis."
Iranian expatriates living in Canada yesterday confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament, called the Islamic Majlis, passed a law this week setting a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear almost identical "standard Islamic garments."
The law, which must still be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims.
Iran's roughly 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes, while Christians would wear red badges and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth.
"There's no reason to believe they won't pass this," said Rabbi Hier. "It will certainly pass unless there's some sort of international outcry over this."
Bernie Farber, the chief executive of the Canadian Jewish Congress, said he was "stunned" by the measure. "We thought this had gone the way of the dodo bird, but clearly in Iran everything old and bad is new again," he said. "It's state-sponsored religious discrimination."
Ali Behroozian, an Iranian exile living in Toronto, said the law could come into force as early as next year.
It would make religious minorities immediately identifiable and allow Muslims to avoid contact with non-Muslims.
Mr. Behroozian said it will make life even more difficult for Iran's small pockets of Jewish, Christian and other religious minorities -- the country is overwhelmingly Shi'ite Muslim. "They have all been persecuted for a while, but these new dress rules are going to make things worse for them," he said.
The new law was drafted two years ago, but was stuck in the Iranian parliament until recently when it was revived at the behest of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
A spokesman for the Iranian Embassy in Ottawa refused to comment on the measures. "This is nothing to do with anything here," said a press secretary who identified himself as Mr. Gharmani.
"We are not here to answer such questions."
The Simon Wiesenthal Centre has written to Kofi Annan, the Secretary-General of the United Nations, protesting the Iranian law and calling on the international community to bring pressure on Iran to drop the measure.
"The world should not ignore this," said Rabbi Hier. "The world ignored Hitler for many years -- he was dismissed as a demagogue, they said he'd never come to power -- and we were all wrong."
Mr. Farber said Canada and other nations should take action to isolate Mr. Ahmadinejad in light of the new law, which he called "chilling," and his previous string of anti-Semitic statements.
"There are some very frightening parallels here," he said. "It's time to start considering how we're going to deal with this person."
Mr. Ahmadinejad has repeatedly described the Holocaust as a myth and earlier this year announced Iran would host a conference to re-examine the history of the Nazis' "Final Solution."
He has caused international outrage by publicly calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map."
Iran does not yet have nuclear weapons, but Tehran believed by Western nations to be developing its own nuclear military capability, in defiance of international protocols and peace treaties.
The United States, France and Israel accuse Iran of using a civilian nuclear program to secretly build a weapon. Iran denies this, saying its program is confined to generating electricity.






Somebody please tell me this is bollocks
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ae/Yellowstars.jpg/220px-Yellowstars.jpg

[smeagol]

Iran is fucked up . . . what else is new?

[Extra Stout]

Iran is fucked up . . . what else is new?
As soon as they get a nuclear bomb, they're going to drop it on Israel, damn the consequences. But hey, don't let that distract you.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

And the solution is to bomb the hell out of Iran, invade it, and try to install "democracy" in there?

Yeah, that would work. Until another Muslim country get their hands on a nuke, or Weapon of Mass Destruction (that we all have seen, they are there...somewhere).

Or even better, alienate the Muslim world even more against the West, with suicide bombers blowing themselves up in every major Capital city in the West.

[Extra Stout]

And the solution is to bomb the hell out of Iran, invade it, and try to install "democracy" in there?

Yeah, that would work. Until another Muslim country get their hands on a nuke, or Weapon of Mass Destruction (that we all have seen, they are there...somewhere).

Or even better, alienate the Muslim world even more against the West, with suicide bombers blowing themselves up in every major Capital city in the West.
I guess we could just let Iran go ahead and nuke Israel. That sounds like a really good idea. We wouldn't want to alienate those Muslims anymore. God forbid.

You will make a great dhimmi.

[xrayzebra]

Or even better, alienate the Muslim world even more against the West, with suicide bombers blowing themselves up in every major Capital city in the West.

God forbid we should make someone mad at us. Oh, how terrible. Who
gives a damn if we make a democracy out of any country. How bout
we just protect YOU and the rest of our world, in which we live. You think
that bunch over there aren't already plotting on how to destroy us?
If you had a brain you would take it out and play with it.

[xrayzebra]

hitler lost

iran will lose too if they choose that path

the world won't let iran go on for more than decade like they did hitler

Who is going to stop them? Israel is the only one with enough guts to
stop them. The European nations certainly wont. The U.S. has so many
gutless politicians and citizens now that it is doubtful if we will, openly.
Everyone is damn worried about hurting someone else feelings that they
are committing suicide. Look at the spineless politicians in Washington now
running from the law the Senate passed about English as the official language.
My God you would have thought the world was coming to an end to hear
some argue. Reid even went so far, and then retracted, that it was racist.
Tell me who will stop Iran, please.

Oh, and Iran has already choosen it's path, to me it is very clear. They
want to be a major player in world affairs and destroy all they are
opposed to.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Yeah. Thanks for the protection... :rolleyes

jeez...

[theroc5]

Jesus is comming back soon...the end is near

[MaNuMaNiAc]

You do realize you're getting all worked up about a government forcing people to wear insignias meanwhile your president is tapping phones and listening to private conversations, right?

http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif Seriously, does no one see the irony in this?

[xrayzebra]

^^Stupid is as stupid is. And MaNuMaNia if you cant figure out the
difference, I certainly haven't got the time or inclination to explain it to you.
I see no irony. The administration is following the law. Unless you are doing
something illegal I don't think you have any worries. Unless you see someone
forcing you to wear some badge to identify your race. Then you may have a
problem, just watch for the laser sight next hoovering over that badge. That is
the next step you know.

[spurster]

Sooner or later (hopefully later) more US-unfriendly countries will get the bomb. It's just a matter of technology and time.

This time I think the US will have no choice but to bomb Iran's facilities (or though a proxy, i.e., Israel). However, the US needs to see the long picture and have a more intelligent long-term bipartisan foreign policy with the goal to at least reach some form of detente. If the US could do this with the USSR during the Cold War, surely this is not beyond us now.

[xrayzebra]

Sooner or later (hopefully later) more US-unfriendly countries will get the bomb. It's just a matter of technology and time.

This time I think the US will have no choice but to bomb Iran's facilities (or though a proxy, i.e., Israel). However, the US needs to see the long picture and have a more intelligent long-term bipartisan foreign policy with the goal to at least reach some form of detente. If the US could do this with the USSR during the Cold War, surely this is not beyond us now.

Well spurster, only one problem with your theory. Russia wanted to dominate
the world, but they weren't religious fanatics. We are dealing with a
group of fanatics who view death for their cause as an honor. Bringing
death to anyone of another faith as an honor. They are promised
a life in paradise, which they long for. You are dealing with people who do
not even start to think as you and I do. Even under normal circumstances.
They have a whole different thinking process. They do not understand
us nor us them in most cases. But you are right in one respect. Iran
will have their bomb and others will follow because we don't have the
will to stop them. As you said Israel may or probably will take some
sort of action against Iran and others if they continue on, but be ready
for a firestorm of condemnation from the West and fury from the ME that
will engulf the United States, of this I have no doubt.

[Yonivore]

Iran's president isn't stupid.

if his country unilaterally drops an atomic weapon on Israel-- a country filled with Islamic/Jewish/and Christian holy sites, he knows he and his country are fucked

can you imagine how pissed off every Jew Christian and Muslim would be
Ever think the Iranian President isn't concerned about retaliation? No, he's not stupid...he's a religious zealot who thinks he's the 12 Imam that's going to bring the about the apocalypse and erase the planet of infidels.

To him, Iran is as expendable as Israel. It's Mecca he's worried about.

[John Doe]

Better to ask for forgivness than for permission, it won't matter that the holy sites are destroyed more importantly there are no more infidels on muslim lands. That will be his approach.

[xrayzebra]

Iran's president isn't stupid.

if his country unilaterally drops an atomic weapon on Israel-- a country filled with Islamic/Jewish/and Christian holy sites, he knows he and his country are fucked

can you imagine how pissed off every Jew Christian and Muslim would be

Would you take a dying oath that he isn't stupid? I think the man is
absolutely stupid and a fanatic to boot. He will do anything to further
his cause and beliefs. And he has many followers that believe the same.
Remember Jim Jones and Hitler and Mussolini. Stuff does happen. And
the world sleeps or ignores the threat until it is too late.

[2centsworth]

Imagine if Hitler had the bomb.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Imagine if Bush knew what that meant.

[SA210]

:lol

[Nbadan]

Don't believe everything you read from the NeoCon press...

Yellow journalism and chicken hawks
By Jim Lobe


WASHINGTON - A story authored by a prominent US neo-conservative regarding new legislation in Iran allegedly requiring Jews and other religious minorities to wear distinctive colored badges circulated around the world last weekend before it was exposed as extremely dubious.

The article by a frequent contributor to the Wall Street Journal, Iranian-American Amir Taheri, was initially published in last Friday's edition of Canada's National Post, which ran alongside the story a 1935 photograph of a Jewish businessman in Berlin with a yellow six-pointed star sewn on his overcoat, as required by Nazi legislation at the time. The Post subsequently noted
Taheri's story, however, was reprinted by the New York Post, which is owned by media baron Rupert Murdoch, and picked up by the Jerusalem Post, which also featured a photo of a yellow star from the Nazi era over a photo of Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad.

Another neo-conservative publication, the New York Sun, also noted the story on Monday, claiming that the specific report that special badges were required by the legislation had been "incorrect". At the same time, however, the Sun quoted two Iranian-American foes of the Islamic Republic as suggesting that dress requirements for religious minorities were still being considered by Iran's ruling circles. It offered no evidence to support that assertion.

The story, which was also noted in the Australian press, comes at a moment of rising tensions between Iran and both Israel and the United States over Tehran's nuclear program, which, according to the latter two, is designed to produce nuclear weapons. Both the US and Israel have suggested that they may take military action against nuclear-related targets in Iran unless ongoing diplomatic efforts to freeze Tehran's program bear fruit.

Juan Cole, president of the US Middle East Studies Association (MESA), described the Taheri article and its appearance first in Canada's Post as "typical of black psychological operations campaigns", particularly in its origin in an "out-of-the-way newspaper that is then picked up by the mainstream press" - in this case, the Jerusalem Post and the New York Post. A former US intelligence official described the article's relatively obscure provenance as a "real sign of [a] disinformation operation".

Taheri's original article, "A color code for Iran's 'infidels'", dealt primarily with new legislation that it said was designed to ensure that Iranians wear "standard Islamic garments" that removed ethnic and class distinctions and that eliminated "the influence of the infidel" - presumably meaning the West - "on the way Iranians, especially the young, dress".

But it also noted in passing that it would "envisage" separate dress codes for religious minorities - Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians - who would be required to adopt distinct color schemes to make them identifiable in public "so that [Muslims] can avoid shaking hands with them by mistake, and thus najis" (unclean).

In particular, he explained, religious minorities will "have to wear special insignia, known as zonnar, to indicate their non-Islamic faiths. Jews will be marked out with a yellow strip of cloth sewn in front of their clothes, while Christians will be assigned the color red. Zoroastrians end up with Persian blue as the color of their zonnar," he wrote.

While Taheri did not evoke the Nazi precedent in his column, the National Post asked its readers at the end of the piece, "Is Iran turning into the new Nazi Germany? Share your opinion online at national post.com."

That was compounded by the Post's publication of a front-page article by Chris Wattie that quoted unidentified "human-rights groups" as "raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear colored badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims".

"This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," Wattie quoted Rabbi Marvin Heir, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, as telling him. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis."

The story also quoted one Iranian exile living in Toronto as confirming the story, as well as Canadian Jewish leaders and Prime Minister Stephen Harper as denouncing the legislation and suggesting that it was consistent with other recent moves made by Tehran.

Similarly, US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, who, however, denied any specific knowledge about the alleged measure, called it "despicable" and reminiscent of "Germany under Hitler".

[B]In fact, however, the legislation contained "absolutely no mention of religious minorities", according to Hadi Ghaemi, the chief Iran researcher for Human Rights Watch, who said it included "only generalities with regard to promoting a national dress code and fashion industry that should be subsidized and supported by the government".

The article - and especially its attribution to "human-rights groups" - was particularly unfortunate, he said, because "it plays into the hands of the Iranian government that wants to discredit human-rights issues that are raised at the international level".

The actual legislation was indeed "a troubling development", but not for the reasons cited by the Post, he said, because "its main target is most probably Iranian women".

Other denunciations were quick to follow. One Jewish representative in the Iranian parliament, Maurice Motamed, insisted that color requirements for ethnic minorities had "never been proposed or discussed in parliament", let alone approved. "Such news," he told the Associated Press, "is an insult to religious minorities here.

"This report is a complete fabrication and is totally false," he told The Australian newspaper. "It is a lie ..."

Two Israel-based Iran experts, Menashe Amir and Meir Javedanfar, also denounced the original reports about the legislation, suggesting in a follow-up article in the Jerusalem Post on Monday that they were based on outdated speculation about the impact on non-Muslims of the adoption of Islamic dress standards.

Nonetheless, the Sun, without endorsing the specific contents of the National Post articles, refused to drop the story, quoting "a leading spokesman for Iranian Jews", the secretary general of the Iranian American Jewish Federation in Los Angeles, Sam Kermanian, as thanking "the world for its outcry" over the original reports and praising Taheri as "someone with fantastic credibility".
Taheri is a member of Benador Associates, a public relations firm that lists a large number of leading neo-conservatives, including American Enterprise Institute associates Richard Perle, David Frum, Michael Ledeen, Michael Rubin and Joshua Muravchik, among its clients.

Major boosters of the war with Iraq, Benador clients, who also include former Central Intelligence Agency chief James Woolsey and former Israeli minister Natan Sharansky, have also called for the US administration to take a hard line against Iran.

The newspapers that so far have run the story are similarly identified with a hard line against Tehran. The National Post, which was bought by CanWest Global Communications from Conrad Black, a close associate of Perle's, is controlled by David and Leonard Asper, who have accused the Canadian Broadcasting Corp of being anti-Israel, according to Marsha Cohen of Florida International University, who has closely followed the badges story.

Similarly, the Sun has taken positions consistent with the right-wing Likud Party in Israel on Middle East issues, while Murdoch owns the strongly pro-Israel Weekly Standard and Fox News, in addition to the New York Post.

"I think the way these stories played - particularly the references to the Holocaust - was designed to arouse and play upon concerns and accusations that Ahmadinejad is another Hitler who needs to be dealt with accordingly," noted Cohen, who added that the Iranian president's questioning of the Holocaust and aggressive statements about Israel had made such stories more credible.

(Inter Press Service) (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HE24Ak03.html)

[iron mike tryson]

And life goes on?(here and there anyway.)

[MaNuMaNiAc]

:lmao at the idiots that jumped at the Hitler reference immediately! LOL What are you saying now??